Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released [Archive] - Page 36

seekupig

01-07-2006, 10:06 PM

So is Kansas getting better or is Kentucky that bad?

Kansas is getting a lot better. Kentucky has been exposed as a fraud. mix those two together and you get a 27 point ass whoopin'.

KU has the #1 FG% defense in the country. lack of consisency on offense, turnovers, and not having a go to guy at the end of games has cost them some close ones. 3 of their 4 losses are by a combined 7 points. they could easily be 12-1 right now, but they're young and learning on the go.

seekupig

01-07-2006, 10:08 PM

Never. Nothing is to personal for these boards.

:thumbsup :evil

ousooner

01-07-2006, 10:12 PM

Kansas is getting a lot better. Kentucky has been exposed as a fraud. mix those two together and you get a 27 point ass whoopin'.

KU has the #1 FG% defense in the country. lack of consisency on offense, turnovers, and not having a go to guy at the end of games has cost them some close ones. 3 of their 4 losses are by a combined 7 points. they could easily be 12-1 right now, but they're young and learning on the go.
As weak as the conference is this year they should finish no worse then fourth and as high as first. I think texas will win it, but who knows.

UNLTrpt

01-07-2006, 11:22 PM

Sorry, I'm still steamed about the game today. Carry on.

awww there there it was only Nebraska.

Oh wait...damn. That is bad.

ousooner

01-07-2006, 11:33 PM

awww there there it was only Nebraska.

Oh wait...damn. That is bad.
You got that right.

UNLTrpt

01-07-2006, 11:39 PM

You got that right.

:D

I'm just given ya shit Brian. I ain't gonna pretend that Nebraska is any good at this point.

ousooner

01-07-2006, 11:56 PM

:D

I'm just given ya shit Brian. I ain't gonna pretend that Nebraska is any good at this point.
:thumbsup I know. Good win though.

HolyCow

01-08-2006, 02:20 AM

Yeah, I forgot about the Alabama game, but then we went back to crap almost losing to SMU and then today. We get a decent lead and then can't hold it. We almost blew it at Tulsa, we did blow it against ORU and rallied back, we beat SMU by a measly 3, and then blew the lead today. And there were others against inferior competition that were a lot closer then they should have been.

You're right, the guards need to realize who the go to guys are on this team, and it's not them.

I can't imagine what it is like for Gray and Bookout. They work their tails off on the offensive glass rebounding all those misses and giving those guys opportunities but the guards never give them the darn ball.

Kelvin needs to swallow his pride and sit a couple of them down for a game and just bite the bullet. Say, "this is how we play, and if you don't like it, you can just sit there for the rest of the year."

I think Sampson is the best coach in America at taking mediocre players and making great teams out of them. I think this year, he has too many great players and doesn't know what to do with them. Something needs to change, and I think Sampson is good enough to turn it around.

I think we will win the Big XII still, get a 3 seed and lose in the Sweet Sixteen.

unccrombie

01-08-2006, 03:31 AM

anyone read the andy katz "not an upset" article :lol damn i want to punch him

ousooner

01-08-2006, 11:35 AM

I can't imagine what it is like for Gray and Bookout. They work their tails off on the offensive glass rebounding all those misses and giving those guys opportunities but the guards never give them the darn ball.

Kelvin needs to swallow his pride and sit a couple of them down for a game and just bite the bullet. Say, "this is how we play, and if you don't like it, you can just sit there for the rest of the year."

I think Sampson is the best coach in America at taking mediocre players and making great teams out of them. I think this year, he has too many great players and doesn't know what to do with them. Something needs to change, and I think Sampson is good enough to turn it around.

I think we will win the Big XII still, get a 3 seed and lose in the Sweet Sixteen.
That would still be a disappointing season though.

unccrombie

01-08-2006, 12:36 PM

That would still be a disappointing season though.
not over last year

ousooner

01-08-2006, 01:08 PM

not over last year
Last year was actually a surprise. I don't think anyone expected a conference championship and a three seed. The tournament was disappointing, but overall, they exceded expectations. This year though, I was expecting a Final Four.

cityondown5

01-08-2006, 02:29 PM

Last year was actually a surprise. I don't think anyone expected a conference championship and a three seed. The tournament was disappointing, but overall, they exceded expectations. This year though, I was expecting a Final Four.

In my "preseason final four" Oklahoma was one of them. With MSU, Duke, and Nova. Oklahoma might be able to make a run in the tournament, but I'm becoming more and more skeptical at that pick as the season progresses. We'll see though.

MSU/Wisconsin today, let's see if they can pull it together and make up for that Illinois loss. They might actually pass ILL-INI in the rankings if they win this game. Thanks Iowa.

HolyCow

01-08-2006, 03:47 PM

Last year was actually a surprise. I don't think anyone expected a conference championship and a three seed. The tournament was disappointing, but overall, they exceded expectations. This year though, I was expecting a Final Four.

I was expecting a final four as well. Seeing as how this team plays together now, I think a Sweet Sixteen is what we are looking at. I am not losing faith, but unless some changes are made, this is not a final four caliber team.

kmano8

01-08-2006, 03:49 PM

Damn WVU.

HolyCow

01-08-2006, 03:55 PM

Damn WVU.

They are better than they played early on. They may be a final four caliber team come tourney time.

bdb23

01-08-2006, 07:46 PM

MSU/Wisconsin today, let's see if they can pull it together and make up for that Illinois loss. They might actually pass ILL-INI in the rankings if they win this game. Thanks Iowa.
:confused The voters would be ignorant to do something like that. Sure, MSU may ultimately be better than the Illini, but your loss earlier this week to us should have dropped you at least 4 spots, giving the Illini some cushion to fall on.

DMBfan41

01-08-2006, 08:14 PM

big week for the Dukies. Wake tonight, Maryland on Wednesday.

Let's Go Duke!

jfolden

01-08-2006, 08:20 PM

They are better than they played early on. They may be a final four caliber team come tourney time.
i don't know if we have the inside presence we need t ogo that far, but WVU can certainly shoot with pretty much any team in the country when they're on. I think today's win will get us back in the top 25 at least.

haildmb

01-08-2006, 10:05 PM

to anyone who's ever said the phrase "Duke gets all the calls"

I hope you're watching this game. From now on, anyone who says this is getting a helping of my balls right in their mouth

ousooner

01-08-2006, 10:26 PM

i don't know if we have the inside presence we need t ogo that far, but WVU can certainly shoot with pretty much any team in the country when they're on. I think today's win will get us back in the top 25 at least.
Nice win! OU, Villanova, and you should have beaten texas.

DMBfan41

01-08-2006, 10:58 PM

29 point lead with 4:30 left. I think the Dukies got this one!

haildmb

01-08-2006, 11:38 PM

good win for my Blue Devils, we looked extremely good, even without shelden in there. JJ, as usual, was unconscious. I fucking love this team

cityondown5

01-09-2006, 12:36 AM

what the hell is going on :BANG

RJ2kWJ

01-09-2006, 12:40 AM

good win for my Blue Devils, we looked extremely good, even without shelden in there. JJ, as usual, was unconscious. I fucking love this team

HELLLL Yes!!!

2 more unbeatens with the fall of Nova, UConn, Ohio St, and Illinois...

DUKE AND FLORIDA! Who will be the first to fall? Floridas schedule looks more cupcakey than Dukes.

haildmb

01-09-2006, 12:42 AM

HELLLL Yes!!!

2 more unbeatens with the fall of Nova, UConn, Ohio St, and Illinois...

DUKE AND FLORIDA! Who will be the first to fall? Floridas schedule looks more cupcakey than Dukes.

don't forget about Pitt

I know, they're easy to forget about ;) lol

RJ2kWJ

01-09-2006, 12:52 AM

don't forget about Pitt

I know, they're easy to forget about ;) lol

Oh shit thanks for the correction. :D

Pitt completely went over my head.

nolan8or

01-09-2006, 10:37 AM

Redick was unconscious once again....32 pts

and how bout Lee with 17

seekupig

01-09-2006, 01:22 PM

observations from this weekend.....

1. Duke is good. i knew they were good, but you shouldn't be able to beat a ranked team on their home court, in conference play that bad.

2. Kentucky sucks. Kansas is getting better, but not that much better. that beating was uncalled for and showed a lack of heart by Kentucky.

3. the ACC, Big Ten, and Big East are going to be very fun to watch this year. anybody beating anybody on a given night. i love it.

RJ2kWJ

01-09-2006, 01:46 PM

DMBfan41

01-09-2006, 02:21 PM

i was definately expecting a better game last night. Hell, I was nervous of a Duke loss.

But man, they destroyed Wake! I love it!

unccrombie

01-09-2006, 04:12 PM

i too enjoyed the thumping of wake, too bad is was by the navy demons

SteelerMan

01-09-2006, 04:20 PM

UNC moved up to #20 in the polls. I thought we'd jump NC State and possibly George Washington (#18 and #19 respectively), but oh well. I'm thrilled with how this season has gone so far. Sports Illustrated picked us to miss the tourney, and here we sit at #20 in mid-January. The ACC schedule is going to be VERY tough, but I think UNC will play well enough to at least get a tourney bid. 2-1 against Top 25 opponents so far.

unccrombie

01-09-2006, 06:38 PM

seekupig

01-09-2006, 06:52 PM

IMO we're actually over-rated

:thumbsup

didn't want to say it myself, just because of where the Jayhawk are right now, but i agree. if they are ranked a month from now, i'll be very suprised.

unccrombie

01-09-2006, 06:58 PM

:thumbsup

didn't want to say it myself, just because of where the Jayhawk are right now, but i agree. if they are ranked a month from now, i'll be very suprised.
well i'd have to agree. however, i think we'll make the tournament

seekupig

01-09-2006, 07:10 PM

well i'd have to agree. however, i think we'll make the tournament

i think you will too. i think Kansas will as well. that fact doesn't make either one of them top 25 teams, as i'm sure you'd agree.

the RPI gave me a good laugh this morning. Kansas is the #147 team in the country. that's got to have Jelly fans feeling really good about their team this year......:lol

unccrombie

01-09-2006, 07:23 PM

i think you will too. i think Kansas will as well. that fact doesn't make either one of them top 25 teams, as i'm sure you'd agree.

the RPI gave me a good laugh this morning. Kansas is the #147 team in the country. that's got to have Jelly fans feeling really good about their team this year......:lol
:lol that'll hurt

seekupig

01-09-2006, 07:29 PM

new bracketology out today.

Kentucky still in as a #7 seed with their 10-4 record.
Kansas out with a 9-4 record.

here's the rest.......

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Third Floor

01-09-2006, 07:33 PM

how is UK a 7 and wake a 8?

and yeah- duke beat wake this weekend, but it was basically what i expected, wake got it close, but when skip took out Trent, no one could cover jj. wake looked better than i expected for most of the game, but we had the same problems as always, turnovers and forgetting that eric is better than mcroberts or melchioni when sheldon sat down

UNC41

01-09-2006, 08:17 PM

:thumbsup

didn't want to say it myself, just because of where the Jayhawk are right now, but i agree. if they are ranked a month from now, i'll be very suprised.

I don't think they are the 20th best team in the nation, but I think they are deserving of the ranking as of now.

unccrombie

01-09-2006, 08:23 PM

north carolina a 4 seed? :lol :lol wait one more :lol

haildmb

01-09-2006, 08:44 PM

north carolina a 4 seed? :lol :lol wait one more :lol

yeah I was laughing at that tidbit too

ousooner

01-09-2006, 09:13 PM

From a 2 to a 9. Good season boys.

bdb23

01-09-2006, 09:22 PM

Still ranking us too high (#6 and #7). :shrug

UNC41

01-09-2006, 09:23 PM

north carolina a 4 seed? :lol :lol wait one more :lol

April fools in January?

ousooner

01-09-2006, 09:32 PM

Well this sucks. We may be headed to probation.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9153113

Oklahoma's phone bill gets NCAA's attention
Jan. 8, 2006
By Gregg Doyel
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

The NCAA's look into the Oklahoma basketball program has every element of the modern-day NCAA investigation, including the 21st century smoking gun: a phone bill.

The NCAA alleges the OU coaching staff made more than 550 impermissible calls to recruits from April 2000 to September 2004. Oklahoma issued self-imposed sanctions, including two years of probation and a three-scholarship reduction.

With the NCAA chillingly not accepting those sanctions as being firm enough, Oklahoma faces the Infractions Committee in April.

Meanwhile, CBS SportsLine.com's investigation shows this case looks like so many others. The usual cast of characters:
Use link if you care to read more

seekupig

01-09-2006, 11:26 PM

how is UK a 7 and wake a 8?

one is Kentucky and the other is Wake Forest. when it comes down to deciding who sucks less, history usually prevails.

HolyCow

01-09-2006, 11:32 PM

Well this sucks. We may be headed to probation.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9153113

Use link if you care to read more

I am scared about this.

seekupig

01-09-2006, 11:35 PM

sounds like the OU athletic department may want to invest in a few prepaid cell phones.....

ousooner

01-09-2006, 11:44 PM

I'd like to know who the coaches were from the rival schools that got things started. We all know Eddie Sutton doesn't cheat (see Kentucky). Everyone knows John Lucas Sr. or the second or whatever, has been recruiting down in Texas for OSU through his basketball camp he runs.

unccrombie

01-10-2006, 12:10 AM

April fools in January?
seems to be that way

41ravens

01-10-2006, 01:35 AM

he may be a goofy lookin' bastard, but adam morrison is everything that's right with basketball. i love watching this guy play.

UNC41

01-10-2006, 01:37 AM

he may be a goofy lookin' bastard, but adam morrison is everything that's right with basketball. i love watching this guy play.

I agree 100%.

rconverse

01-10-2006, 11:28 AM

I am scared about this.

This part of the article doesn't sound good. "With the NCAA chillingly not accepting those sanctions as being firm enough, Oklahoma faces the Infractions Committee in April." :o

SteelerMan

01-10-2006, 12:43 PM

north carolina a 4 seed? :lol :lol wait one more :lol

I can see them ending up as a 6 or a 7.

cityondown5

01-10-2006, 12:54 PM

I can see them ending up as a 6 or a 7.

Not if they beat Duke

rconverse

01-10-2006, 12:57 PM

Not if they beat Duke

That is a huge IF! There is no way that UNC is beating Duke this year. I wouldn't be suprosed if UNC forfeits both games. ;)

SteelerMan

01-10-2006, 01:00 PM

That is a huge IF! There is no way that UNC is beating Duke this year. I wouldn't be suprosed if UNC forfeits both games. ;)

I have faith in Roy. I'd be surprised if we beat Duke this year, but I don't think we'll get embarassed either.

RJ2kWJ

01-10-2006, 01:07 PM

I have faith in Roy. I'd be surprised if we beat Duke this year, but I don't think we'll get embarassed either.

Yea I dont think that either... I just hope Duke doesnt underestimate them, especially if they play like they did against Jelly.

rconverse

01-10-2006, 01:11 PM

I have faith in Roy. I'd be surprised if we beat Duke this year, but I don't think we'll get embarassed either.

Absolutely not. I bet one of the games go into overtime (prolly at UNC). I love it when they play three times in a year. :thumbsup

I think my all-time favorite game to watch was the D-OT where Capel hit the running 45 footer at the end of the first overtime. UNC was supposed to trounce Duke and they hung tough. It was pretty funny, because I was in a bar and they wanted me out because I was under 21 and it was late, but they kind of knew me from watching other games and let me stay. When I turned 21 I made it up to them though. I think I probably spent about 1/2 my earnings during the college years there. Good times.

UNC41

01-10-2006, 01:32 PM

Yea I dont think that either... I just hope Duke doesnt underestimate them, especially if they play like they did against Jelly.

If someone can keep Redick remotely in control and Hansbrough, who has been getting to the free throw line like its going out of style, can get Sheldon in foul trouble the Heels could possibly make it a game.

I'm excited to see how they do in their first ACC road game of the year tonight. VaTech is beatable, but will be a tough game. More Bobby Fraser and less Quentin Thomas.

UNC41

01-10-2006, 01:33 PM

Absolutely not. I bet one of the games go into overtime (prolly at UNC). I love it when they play three times in a year. :thumbsup

I think my all-time favorite game to watch was the D-OT where Capel hit the running 45 footer at the end of the first overtime. UNC was supposed to trounce Duke and they hung tough. It was pretty funny, because I was in a bar and they wanted me out because I was under 21 and it was late, but they kind of knew me from watching other games and let me stay. When I turned 21 I made it up to them though. I think I probably spent about 1/2 my earnings during the college years there. Good times.

I usually see that game at least once a year. Incredible game.

SteelerMan

01-10-2006, 02:45 PM

I'm excited to see how they do in their first ACC road game of the year tonight. VaTech is beatable, but will be a tough game. More Bobby Fraser and less Quentin Thomas.

After the impressive NC State win, I have a bad feeling we're in for a letdown tonight. Danny Green needs to step it up. I've never been a big Quentin Thomas fan either.

unccrombie

01-10-2006, 03:24 PM

After the impressive NC State win, I have a bad feeling we're in for a letdown tonight. Danny Green needs to step it up. I've never been a big Quentin Thomas fan either.
me either, hes too erratic

UNC41

01-10-2006, 04:42 PM

After the impressive NC State win, I have a bad feeling we're in for a letdown tonight. Danny Green needs to step it up. I've never been a big Quentin Thomas fan either.

I hope not. I'd like to see Reyshawn step it up. He shows flashes of being awesome some games, but doesn't put it together consistently.

SteelerMan

01-10-2006, 04:53 PM

I hope not. I'd like to see Reyshawn step it up. He shows flashes of being awesome some games, but doesn't put it together consistently.

That's my problem with Danny Green. As a scorer, he's been great at times (17 points vs. Gardner Webb, 12 vs. Santa Clara, 15 vs. UNC Asheville), but against the tough opponents, he has basically disappeared (5 vs. Illinois, 5 @ Kentucky, 2 vs. NC State). I have been very impressed with his rebounding though... he's averaging 8.67 per game over the last three, which leads the team.

HolyCow

01-10-2006, 11:37 PM

I am so pissed with Sooner basketball right now that I cannot speak.

ousooner

01-10-2006, 11:49 PM

I am so pissed with Sooner basketball right now that I cannot speak.
Unreal! I didn't think it was possible, but I am even more disappointed then I was with the football team. I'm like you, I have no words.

UNC41

01-10-2006, 11:55 PM

I am so pissed with Sooner basketball right now that I cannot speak.

Would I be wrong to assume that you were yelling, NO TAJ, NO, with about 3 seconds left?

ousooner

01-10-2006, 11:59 PM

From #5 to the NIT. Damn this is embarrassing.

twosteppn36

01-11-2006, 12:00 AM

wow...kentucky is awful

unccrombie

01-11-2006, 12:11 AM

wow...kentucky is awful
:thumbsup

UNC41

01-11-2006, 12:20 AM

From #5 to the NIT. Damn this is embarrassing.

It could be worse. You could like Kentucky.

ousooner

01-11-2006, 12:23 AM

It could be worse. You could like Kentucky.
No, this is worse. Kentucky will be back, they are a basketball power. Our chances are few and far between.

DMBfan41

01-11-2006, 01:23 AM

going to the Seton Hall and Marquette game tomorrow, should be good after Marquette upset UConn.

Go Hall!

RJ2kWJ

01-11-2006, 02:16 AM

Tonight was the only exception I make to ever root for UNC. And I did. And they won. Im glad. Good night. :D

UNLTrpt

01-11-2006, 02:21 AM

I am so pissed with Sooner basketball right now that I cannot speak.

don't worry. I know that you're 0-2 but OU is much better than you might think. You've lost 2 big 12 games by a total of 3 points? And the Big 12 is fairly average this year going 0-2 isn't a nail in the coufin.

unccrombie

01-11-2006, 02:21 AM

Tonight was the only exception I make to ever root for UNC. And I did. And they won. Im glad. Good night. :D
:freak

UNLTrpt

01-11-2006, 02:22 AM

wow...kentucky is awful

wow. L to Vandy. at home. Yikes.

UNC41

01-11-2006, 02:29 AM

don't worry. I know that you're 0-2 but OU is much better than you might think. You've lost 2 big 12 games by a total of 3 points? And the Big 12 is fairly average this year going 0-2 isn't a nail in the coufin.

The Big 12 is definately down this year. Only two ranked teams and one of them is Oklahoma.

RJ2kWJ

01-11-2006, 02:45 AM

:freak

I have a hatred for VT I cant explain. Way more so than UNC. Even though I cant stand UNC because of the rivalry. :D

mizzoudmbfan

01-11-2006, 02:50 AM

Interesting game tonight. Questionable calls for both sides.

mizzoudmbfan

01-11-2006, 02:58 AM

Forgot to add this to my last post.

http://www4.antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3487284&postcount=33

:D

UNLTrpt

01-11-2006, 03:08 AM

The Big 12 is definately down this year. Only two ranked teams and one of them is Oklahoma.

and you know what? For some odd, strange reason...I'm feelin nebraska in the Big 12. I think we've got a good solid team that can compete with anybody. Tomorrow will be a good indicator where we are. I certainly think we have a great shot of beating K St. but we have never played very well down there. So if we come out and put on the effort we did against OU, this team might be legit.

RJ2kWJ

01-11-2006, 10:54 AM

WOO HOOOOOO!!!!

At 3 I hit the road for the Duke/Maryland game... Im amped... I love goin to that arena.

seekupig

01-11-2006, 12:13 PM

and you know what? For some odd, strange reason...I'm feelin nebraska in the Big 12. I think we've got a good solid team that can compete with anybody. Tomorrow will be a good indicator where we are. I certainly think we have a great shot of beating K St. but we have never played very well down there. So if we come out and put on the effort we did against OU, this team might be legit.

beating K-State will NEVER give you an indication of how good you are in the Big XII. they have been on or near the bottom of the Big XII for as long as i can remember. don't let that crappy non conference schedule that K-State has played fool you into thinking they're as good as their record. Nebraska should win that game.

seekupig

01-11-2006, 12:15 PM

The Big 12 is definately down this year. Only two ranked teams and one of them is Oklahoma.

for the moment. :D

ousooner

01-11-2006, 12:58 PM

for the moment. :D
:thumbsup

rconverse

01-11-2006, 01:04 PM

WOO HOOOOOO!!!!

At 3 I hit the road for the Duke/Maryland game... Im amped... I love goin to that arena.

Sounds awesome. I can't wait for the game tonight. It's gonna be on!! :violent

Prediction: Duke by 9 and Reddick goes for 28

UNLTrpt

01-11-2006, 01:09 PM

beating K-State will NEVER give you an indication of how good you are in the Big XII. they have been on or near the bottom of the Big XII for as long as i can remember. don't let that crappy non conference schedule that K-State has played fool you into thinking they're as good as their record. Nebraska should win that game.

but that's my point. Nebraska has routinely had the better team than Kansas St. and has always struggled in Mannatten. Road games like this (i.e. ones we should win) have always been a stub your toe type game. If Nebraska want's to show that they belong in the Big 12, we'll win in easily.

I know Kansas St. games aren't used as measuring stick games (those are reserved for OSU, Kansas and Texas games) but it's seemed that this type of game has alway kept us from taking that next step in the conference.

beer_n_dmb

01-11-2006, 01:10 PM

You know I had to pop my head in today. Lets make it 4 in a row boys. Gary will have them ready tonight..one of our 2 biggest games of the year.

DMBfan41

01-11-2006, 01:56 PM

Going to Seton Hall/Marquette tonight and then watching Duke/Maryland.

Good night of college hoops!

Let's Go Duke!

stgeorg3

01-11-2006, 05:34 PM

Big nite for my Spartans!!! Let's hope Ager and Davis decide to show up!

unccrombie

01-11-2006, 06:37 PM

Big nite for my Spartans!!! Let's hope Ager and Davis decide to show up!
can't really have 3 straight losses

rconverse

01-11-2006, 06:40 PM

Off to get smashed watching the Dukies smash the Terps!!

SmoothD41

01-11-2006, 06:51 PM

2 awesome games tonight, back to back on ESPN

start off with Indiana VS Michigan State, then Maryland VS Duke

haildmb

01-11-2006, 07:06 PM

GO DUKE

beer_n_dmb

01-11-2006, 11:06 PM

:BANG :BANG :BANG :BANG :BANG

FUCK...45-22 at halftime. Way to show up boys

chiznaz

01-11-2006, 11:58 PM

A&M up by 2 over OSU with 5 min left.

seekupig

01-12-2006, 12:12 AM

7 in a row for the Jayhawks. :multi

the young guys are finally playing together.

UNLTrpt

01-12-2006, 12:31 AM

Nebraska get's the win @ K st. 57-42

2-0 in the Big XII

Not to shabby for the boys in red

seekupig

01-12-2006, 12:34 AM

Nebraska get's the win @ K st. 57-42

2-0 in the Big XII

Not to shabby for the boys in red

:thumbsup nice win.

next Saturday (Jan. 21st) your boys come to Lawrence. that'll be a good test for both teams.

ousooner

01-12-2006, 12:38 AM

Nebraska get's the win @ K st. 57-42

2-0 in the Big XII

Not to shabby for the boys in red
:thumbsup Nice!

DMBfan41

01-12-2006, 01:12 AM

bah Seton Hall lost by 4 to Marquette tonight. It was a good game. I have never seen so many travelling calls in a game.

But, Duke beat Maryland tonight, this season is becoming very good!

UNLTrpt

01-12-2006, 01:33 AM

:thumbsup nice win.

next Saturday (Jan. 21st) your boys come to Lawrence. that'll be a good test for both teams.

yep. We've always had trouble in Lawrence (who am I kidding, everybody has trouble in the Phog) but we played really well down there last year but came up just short.

gbs3769

01-12-2006, 09:57 AM

Syracuse just won their 11th straight. Next up:

Home games in bold.

1/14 Cincinatti
1/16 UConn
1/21 Villanova
1/23 Pittsburgh

- Primo

ousooner

01-12-2006, 12:27 PM

Syracuse just won their 11th straight. Next up:

Home games in bold.

1/14 Cincinatti
1/16 UConn
1/21 Villanova
1/23 Pittsburgh

- Primo
That's a tough stretch.

seekupig

01-12-2006, 12:27 PM

Syracuse just won their 11th straight. Next up:

Home games in bold.

1/14 Cincinatti
1/16 UConn
1/21 Villanova
1/23 Pittsburgh

- Primo

2 out of 4 would be very impressive in that little run.

seekupig

01-12-2006, 12:29 PM

yep. We've always had trouble in Lawrence (who am I kidding, everybody has trouble in the Phog) but we played really well down there last year but came up just short.

if there's ever a year where they could be beat multiple times at home, this is it. next year it'll be back to the old Jayhawks that rarely if ever lose at home.

ousooner

01-12-2006, 12:33 PM

if there's ever a year where they could be beat multiple times at home, this is it. next year it'll be back to the old Jayhawks that rarely if ever lose at home.
Is this the year KState ends the streak? What is the count now?

seekupig

01-12-2006, 12:51 PM

Is this the year KState ends the streak? What is the count now?

actually, the really long streak is at their place.

they last beat us in Lawrence on 01.17.94. the last time they beat us in Manhattan was on 01.29. 83! the overall streak itself is up to 30 games i think overall. that could end this year too.

UNLTrpt

01-12-2006, 01:53 PM

if there's ever a year where they could be beat multiple times at home, this is it. next year it'll be back to the old Jayhawks that rarely if ever lose at home.

true true.

I've been to one game at the Phog. It was vs. Baylor. So easy game right? Walk in the park right? Oh...this game wasn't decided until about the last 30 sec. I want to say....'99?

rconverse

01-12-2006, 02:06 PM

GO DUKE

I was close on one prediction last night. I predicted Reddick to have 28, but Duke to only win by nine, not 24. Maryland looked horrible last night.

I thought the "Sweat Gary Sweat" chant was pretty funny. As well as the "Not Our Rivals."

Nelson looked NICE before he re-injured his foot. When they were flashing to him on the bench after the injury, he looked pretty down. I am thinking he is going to be out a while again. That is not good for the Dukies.

unccrombie

01-12-2006, 03:12 PM

i hope signing center court doesnt become a tradition

twosteppn36

01-12-2006, 03:25 PM

Syracuse just won their 11th straight. Next up:

Home games in bold.

1/14 Cincinatti
1/16 UConn
1/21 Villanova
1/23 Pittsburgh

- Primo

:thumbsup cant wait for monday

and john, that bastard took the extra tickets...sorry

unccrombie

01-12-2006, 03:52 PM

:thumbsup cant wait for monday

and john, that bastard took the extra tickets...sorry
no problem. if anything else comes up be sure to let me know ;)

gbs3769

01-12-2006, 04:20 PM

:thumbsup cant wait for monday

and john, that bastard took the extra tickets...sorry
Monday will be great. I'm just hoping my Uncle actually comes through for the tickets for Villanova. He said he was going to get them, but I haven't heard anything still.

- Primo

haildmb

01-12-2006, 09:17 PM

thump bitches!

we absolutely owned the twerps last night, it was beautiful from start to finish. JJ was off and still ended up with 27, and Shelden, though not perfect, was dominating.

Have I mentioned that I LOVE this team?

seekupig

01-12-2006, 11:23 PM

haildmb

01-12-2006, 11:26 PM

don't you miss living in NC this time of year?

yes, yes I do, but I am by far the biggest basketball nut in the entire state

seekupig

01-12-2006, 11:28 PM

well, i think Duke may have just jinxed themselves. just saw this on local news...... i'll try to find a link.

Duke has applied for three bonfire permits for this semester. one for the night of the men's ACC tournament, and one each for the night of the men's and women's Championship game. a little confident?

rconverse

01-12-2006, 11:31 PM

^^^^^^^

Confident, but not cocky. :cool

rconverse

01-12-2006, 11:32 PM

rconverse

01-13-2006, 06:54 PM

why does wake not deserve to be higher? after winning the ACC regular season and only losing 1 starter and 2 people overall (1.4 really lepore never played and what good is a 3pt shooter who cant hit an open 3?) i think we deserve to be higher.

Funny to go back to when this thread started. So Third Floor - still think Duke shouldn't be ranked that high and Wake is underrated? ;)

Anyway, Clemson tomorrow. GO DUKE!!!!!!!

Third Floor

01-13-2006, 06:56 PM

Funny to go back to when this thread started. So Third Floor - still think Duke shouldn't be ranked that high and Wake is underrated? ;)

Anyway, Clemson tomorrow. GO DUKE!!!!!!!
yes, two years ago, wake was underrated and duke was overrated.

rconverse

01-13-2006, 06:57 PM

yes, two years ago, wake was underrated and duke was overrated.

Leaving for weekend very embarrased and ashamed. :o

haildmb

01-13-2006, 07:22 PM

yes, two years ago, wake was underrated and duke was overrated.

didn't Duke go to the final four two years ago?

not that I'm trying to get into an old argument, just saying ;)

UNC41

01-14-2006, 07:47 AM

Florida is the only SEC team ranked. Nice conference.

ousooner

01-14-2006, 12:30 PM

Florida is the only SEC team ranked. Nice conference.
And texas will be the only Big 12 team ranked Monday unless another team moves into the poll.

RJ2kWJ

01-14-2006, 01:03 PM

Florida is the only SEC team ranked. Nice conference.

I try not to be biased... but if Duke keeps going without a loss.... I have WAY more respect for it than Floridas no loss.

Compare the two schedules haha.

41ravens

01-14-2006, 01:33 PM

Hey, it could be worse. Your teams could have lost to mighty Oregon St.

Someone shoot me in the face.

haildmb

01-14-2006, 02:08 PM

we're playing fucking sloppy against the yellow jackets so far, need to step it up. Get it together Pack

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 02:18 PM

wow, I love DirecTV.

10 games on right now, and I don't even have Full Court

41ravens

01-14-2006, 02:19 PM

wow, I love DirecTV.

10 games on right now, and I don't even have Full Court

Nice. I need to get the hell out of work so I can get home to catch a little of that Texas/Nova game.

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 02:24 PM

I'm watching Columbia/Princeton right now

64-61 Princeton in OT, good game

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 02:27 PM

ouch, Columbia kid just called a TO without having any.

Princeton crowd chants "You're Chris Webber" That's pretty funny

HolyCow

01-14-2006, 02:30 PM

Well, today is make or break with the Sooners. Win, and there is hope that they can right the ship.

Lose, and our season goes in the tank.

unccrombie

01-14-2006, 02:55 PM

turnovers killed carolina today, it finally caught up with them and gave the canes a win

haildmb

01-14-2006, 03:14 PM

well great sports day so far! State fought a tough tech team and got a good solid win and the hurricanes walked into unc like it ain't no thing and won :lol Duke just needs to do what they do and it'll be mission accomplished

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 03:17 PM

Rangers and Duke playing at the same time, ahhh damn it

unccrombie

01-14-2006, 03:18 PM

Rangers and Duke playing at the same time, ahhh damn it
go rangers

ousooner

01-14-2006, 03:28 PM

This thread should be renamed the ACC thread or Duke thread. If you post anything else you are just talking to yourself.

bustdstuff

01-14-2006, 03:53 PM

This thread should be renamed the ACC thread or Duke thread. If you post anything else you are just talking to yourself.
:lol :lol

I too am looking foward to the 'nova/Texas game. Time to see if 'nova can play with the big boys. I love working in a sports bar w/ the bball package.:D

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 03:56 PM

Texas up by 2 with 1:45 to go

HolyCow

01-14-2006, 04:03 PM

I hope Kelvin doesn't kill anyone at halftime.

UNLTrpt

01-14-2006, 04:03 PM

Well, today is make or break with the Sooners. Win, and there is hope that they can right the ship.

Lose, and our season goes in the tank.

not good so far.

unccrombie

01-14-2006, 04:18 PM

good win for texas

UNC41

01-14-2006, 04:45 PM

Good game Miami.

Great win for Texas.

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 04:52 PM

Kansas State beat Kansas, wow

ousooner

01-14-2006, 04:52 PM

Wow, the streak is over and it ends in Lawrence. Not a good day for KU.

ousooner

01-14-2006, 04:53 PM

I hope Kelvin doesn't kill anyone at halftime.
I was thinking the same thing. Can't blame him though if he did.

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 05:07 PM

15-0 baby! Only team in the ACC not to lose!

unccrombie

01-14-2006, 05:13 PM

15-0 baby! Only team in the ACC not to lose!
did you see their next 5 games? :lol holy shit they gotta lose at least one

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 05:18 PM

correction, 16-0

HolyCow

01-14-2006, 05:18 PM

I'll take it. It's a win and that is exactly what we had to have.

I am exhausted after that one.

UNLTrpt

01-14-2006, 05:20 PM

Kansas lost at home. To K St. is the world upside fucking down?

rconverse

01-14-2006, 06:11 PM

Duke won. Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky all lost. Sportswise, this day could not be better!

DMBfan41

01-14-2006, 06:44 PM

UCLA over Washington 60-59 with 3:30 to go

mizzoudmbfan

01-14-2006, 06:59 PM

Beware the Phog my ass.

Gotta get things done tonight so we can shut down the squawks on Monday night!

So I saw Marshall Brown and Jason Horton(2 Mizzou players for you ACC people) walking around the Columbia Mall at 3pm. Does that seem a little strange considering there is a conference game in about 2 hours? I mean even the band has to be at the arena 1 hour before tip off.

unccrombie

01-14-2006, 07:20 PM

HolyCow

01-14-2006, 07:23 PM

maybe you were mistaken? or maybe they only have to be there an hour prior

Most of the time, players have shootaround at 10 am or so, get done with that at 12, eat a pregame meal, have three hours of free time and have to be at the gym at 5:30 for a 7 pm tip off.

At least that is how it works at OU.

mizzoudmbfan

01-14-2006, 07:47 PM

I guarantee it was the players that I saw. I'm not trying to rat them out or anything don't get me wrong, they can do what they want with their free time...as long as they get it done on the court, which they seem to be doing thus far. It just seemed a little odd to me.

bdb23

01-14-2006, 08:12 PM

Much Fichigan!!!

16-1.

ousooner

01-14-2006, 08:18 PM

I'll take it. It's a win and that is exactly what we had to have.

I am exhausted after that one.
:thumbsup A win is a win. As ugly as it was, that's all that counts right now. Maybe they can take this and get some confidence back.

mizzoudmbfan

01-14-2006, 09:19 PM

bogus bogus call. oh well, it happens.

DMBfan41

01-15-2006, 04:13 PM

Pitt is still undefeated wow, big win over Louisville

Bswartz95

01-15-2006, 07:39 PM

What a game between Ohio State and Michigan State - going to the 2nd OT.

chiznaz

01-16-2006, 02:54 AM

:thumbsup A win is a win. As ugly as it was, that's all that counts right now. Maybe they can take this and get some confidence back.

That game was bullcrap. I was there and was ready to stone the ref on that last play.

A&M swarmed OU all game long. They were the better team up until the last 2 min of the game. OU is one good PG away from being a really, really good team. A&M needs to work on defending the three. Bookout was playing dirty with some of the screens and some elbows that he was throwing, but he sure can seal off the lane, and he uses every inch of his body in the paint:thumbsup

What is so frustrating is the fact that A&M's two confrence losses are combined for a total of 3pts. The first half of confrence play is toughest on our schedule, and we should be 3-0 right now.

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 03:14 AM

but he sure can seal off the lane, and he uses every inch of his body in the paint:thumbsup

dude's a fuckin house

Big 12 standings
1) Texas 2-0
1) Nebraska 2-0

:freak

wtf?

chiznaz

01-16-2006, 03:23 AM

dude's a fuckin house

Big 12 standings
1) Texas 2-0
1) Nebraska 2-0

:freak

wtf?

Joseph Jones is rapidly becoming just like that. He's a soph and can really take over the paint. Crappy thing about the OU game was him and Bookout pretty much canceled each other out.

SteelerMan

01-16-2006, 10:16 AM

That was an ugly loss to Miami Saturday... but when you rely heavily on that many freshmen, I guess games like that are to be expected.

gbs3769

01-16-2006, 10:29 AM

I was looking through some things yesterday and Syracuse's two losses (Florida and Bucknell) have come to teams that are in the Top 25 RPI.

Tonight should be a good test of how we are going to perform in conference play. I'll be thrilled to pick up one of our next three games.

01/16 #4 UConn 9:00 PM
01/21 at #3 Villanova 6:00 PM
01/23 at #11 Pittsburgh 7:00 PM

- Primo

unccrombie

01-16-2006, 10:32 AM

That was an ugly loss to Miami Saturday... but when you rely heavily on that many freshmen, I guess games like that are to be expected.
not really an ugly loss, they played well, just too many TOs

stgeorg3

01-16-2006, 10:41 AM

What a game between Ohio State and Michigan State - going to the 2nd OT.

That was the ugliest game ever!! A win is a win though for my Spartans!!

ousooner

01-16-2006, 01:39 PM

That game was bullcrap. I was there and was ready to stone the ref on that last play.

A&M swarmed OU all game long. They were the better team up until the last 2 min of the game. OU is one good PG away from being a really, really good team. A&M needs to work on defending the three. Bookout was playing dirty with some of the screens and some elbows that he was throwing, but he sure can seal off the lane, and he uses every inch of his body in the paint:thumbsup

What is so frustrating is the fact that A&M's two confrence losses are combined for a total of 3pts. The first half of confrence play is toughest on our schedule, and we should be 3-0 right now.
Yeah, we have no perimeter shooting, so all opponents have to do is pack it inside or play a zone. That's why we can't score. Everett isn't a point guard, but he played the point last year and was the team's best player the last ten games of the season. For some reason he just doesn't have it right now.

I didn't get to watch the whole game, was OU's defense that good or A&M's offense that bad or both. OU really hasn't been that good defensively this year compared to past years.

RJ2kWJ

01-16-2006, 01:42 PM

Anyone seen Glory Road yet?

gbs3769

01-16-2006, 02:19 PM

I haven't, but interestingly enough, Jim Boeheim (#18) sits one spot behind Don Haskins (#17) in all time wins with 717. Haskins has 719.

- Primo

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 02:27 PM

Anyone seen Glory Road yet?

yep.

RJ2kWJ

01-16-2006, 03:11 PM

yep.

Could you possibly follow that up with a "it was good" or a "it sucked" comment please? :D

seekupig

01-16-2006, 03:34 PM

Beware the Phog my ass.

Gotta get things done tonight so we can shut down the squawks on Monday night!

the only game that Mizzou cares about is tonight. i like your chances.

mizzoudmbfan

01-16-2006, 03:43 PM

the only game that Mizzou cares about is tonight. i like your chances.

Hey, we have NEVER ever in the history of the building lost to kU in Mizzou Arena. Bucknell Bill does not stand a chance!

All kidding aside. Just like every year in every sport, it's anyone's game when it comes to Missouri-Kansas. We are both down this year...well, decade in Mizzou's case. Hopefully we can take advantage of the situation this year.

Rob

gbs3769

01-16-2006, 05:55 PM

#20 in both polls. Hot diggity. Let's Go Orange!

This is going to be one hell of a game tonight. All the students are back and it's going to be crazy in the Dome.

- Primo

unccrombie

01-16-2006, 05:59 PM

#20 in both polls. Hot diggity. Let's Go Orange!

This is going to be one hell of a game tonight. All the students are back and it's going to be crazy in the Dome.

- Primo
i smell blow out though

ousooner

01-16-2006, 06:17 PM

College basketball must be really down this year if we are still hanging in the polls. Either that or the voters don't watch games.

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 07:27 PM

Could you possibly follow that up with a "it was good" or a "it sucked" comment please? :D

but you asked if someone had seen it. You didn't ask how it was.

It was good. Not the best movie in the world but it was ok.

seekupig

01-16-2006, 07:38 PM

Hey, we have NEVER ever in the history of the building lost to kU in Mizzou Arena.

what is it now, like three or four games?

RJ2kWJ

01-16-2006, 08:08 PM

but you asked if someone had seen it. You didn't ask how it was.

It was good. Not the best movie in the world but it was ok.

Yea I know... its why I asked the 2nd time around :D

But thanks... should I give it a go?

mizzoudmbfan

01-16-2006, 08:11 PM

what is it now, like three or four games?

:haha you are giving us too much credit. This is only the second season for the areana. So we are 1 for 1...for now.

RJ2kWJ

01-16-2006, 10:18 PM

Wel I hope the Orange makes this a game...

haildmb

01-16-2006, 10:23 PM

man the end of this mizzou/ku game has been crazy

well, end of regulation anyway

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 10:25 PM

Yea I know... its why I asked the 2nd time around :D

But thanks... should I give it a go?

if you're bored on a Friday/Saturday night sure. It's not a movie that HAS to be seen in a theater though.

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 10:26 PM

Dear Kansas:

Way to piss that game down your leg.

From: a Kansas hater.

RJ2kWJ

01-16-2006, 10:42 PM

Dear Kansas:

Way to piss that game down your leg.

From: a Kansas hater.

Wait I stopped watching this with a minute and a half left... and I coulda SWORN Kansas was up 9... what happened? Or was I blind?

bdb23

01-16-2006, 10:46 PM

Rock. Choke. Jayhoke.

Have fun w/ Bill Self. :fun

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 11:17 PM

Dear 'cuse:

Show up.

From: me

smeritt

01-16-2006, 11:17 PM

So I'm almost refusing to watch the rest of the SU game. They're embarassing the state of New York

UNLTrpt

01-16-2006, 11:19 PM

Wait I stopped watching this with a minute and a half left... and I coulda SWORN Kansas was up 9... what happened? Or was I blind?

just under 2 mins left KU was up 9, yes.

chiznaz

01-16-2006, 11:35 PM

Yeah, we have no perimeter shooting, so all opponents have to do is pack it inside or play a zone. That's why we can't score. Everett isn't a point guard, but he played the point last year and was the team's best player the last ten games of the season. For some reason he just doesn't have it right now.

I didn't get to watch the whole game, was OU's defense that good or A&M's offense that bad or both. OU really hasn't been that good defensively this year compared to past years.

OU's defense was great inside. A&M really had to work to get the ball in, but Acie Law was getting inside the lane and getting good looks fairly easy. That game wasn't as bad as it looked. A&M did force plenty of turnovers, and they also slowed the game down a lot with their offensive play. The game was not a sprinting, fast paced game.

K. Sampson is a great coach, so I wouldn't worry too bad about this game. OU brought it when it counted, and played very well the last few minutes when they were down and on the road.

A lot of people are also overlooking A&M. Gillispie is one hell of a coach, and he is recruiting TX like no other. We have an impressive class coming in, and are going to be a force in the BigXII. Hell we went from 0-16 in 2003, to the NIT quaterfinals in one year. I'm excited about basketball here now:thumbsup

unccrombie

01-16-2006, 11:40 PM

i smell blow out though
:thumbsup

oh wait, that was me

smeritt

01-17-2006, 01:06 AM

You know even though SU got handled. They showed some heart playing till the end and getting it to 6 down. Now as for three big men fouling out that's just ridiculus. They got some things to work out if they wanna do good in the big east tourney and in march.

mizzoudmbfan

01-17-2006, 02:32 AM

Wow, best game I've seen in some time! The kU fans actually started a Rock Chalk chant in the upper decks with 30 seconds to go thinking they would win, I love it. Go Tigers!

FWIW the best D1 team in the state of KS is...drum roll...WICHITA STATE SHOCKERS. 14-4 record and a 28 RPI.

Dave G

01-17-2006, 10:26 AM

seekupig

01-17-2006, 10:53 AM

Dear Kansas:

Way to piss that game down your leg.

From: a Kansas hater.

still upset about that blowout loss in football this year? :lol

rconverse

01-17-2006, 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=smeritt]You know even though SU got handled. They showed some heart playing till the end and getting it to 6 down.QUOTE]

Your right, that was impressive. It says a lot about their team and coach.
Uconn looked pretty good last night. Hell, even Dookie V was saying they were the best team he has seen this year

He was wrong.

How the hell did Florida pick up a first place vote???? That has to be a joke. :BANG :BANG

Anyway, onto last night's game. I completely agree. SU hung tough. Too bad the hole they dug was so big. UCONN did look really good. I still hate that fucking school though.

RJ2kWJ

01-17-2006, 12:59 PM

UNLTrpt

01-17-2006, 01:15 PM

still upset about that blowout loss in football this year? :lol

yes :lorraine

I've always been a Kansas hater in basketball. It's hard to be a fan of a Big 12 team and NOT be a Kansas hater.

rconverse

01-17-2006, 01:16 PM

Since before the season started I said it was going to be a Duke/UCONN Natty title... or atleast in the final 4. It would be a hell of a battle. UCONN has what... 3 maybe 4 NBA first rounders? Duke has 2 maybe 3 depending on Josh. The matchups are awesome. I like Dukes "hustle" and "effort" a little more, but it would be a hell of a battle.

Hopefully I wont throw a dictionary at the TV like I did in 2004 when UCONN won 79-78.

Please do not mention that game between the hours of 8:30 and 5:00 CST. I am liable to destroy my computer, which is owned by my employer. That would not look good on my review in April. Thank you for your cooperation and attention to this matter.

seekupig

01-17-2006, 02:17 PM

yes :lorraine

I've always been a Kansas hater in basketball. It's hard to be a fan of a Big 12 team and NOT be a Kansas hater.

i guess that's a compliment.

how pissed is everyone going to be when they get it together and win the Big XII tournament? ;)

unccrombie

01-17-2006, 02:26 PM

i guess that's a compliment.

how pissed is everyone going to be when they get it together and win the Big XII tournament? ;)
more out of place than md winning the acc a couple years back :lol

ousooner

01-17-2006, 02:43 PM

i guess that's a compliment.

how pissed is everyone going to be when they get it together and win the Big XII tournament? ;)
:lol Good one!

chiznaz

01-17-2006, 04:08 PM

i guess that's a compliment.

how pissed is everyone going to be when they get it together and win the Big XII tournament? ;)

we're going to beat you come Jan 25th. It's a must win for us:D

UNLTrpt

01-17-2006, 04:48 PM

i guess that's a compliment.

how pissed is everyone going to be when they get it together and win the Big XII tournament? ;)

who Kansas or Nebraska?

gbs3769

01-17-2006, 04:49 PM

The one thing I can't stand about officiating is when it is inconsistent. Last night I saw a lot of inconsistencies with touch fouls being called on one end and tough fouls in the paint not being called on the other.

With that being said, you can't go down 20 points against a team like UConn and expect to actually win the game. We shot pathetically. We took really bad shots during the first half and were laxidasical on the defensive end.

We need to pick up one of the next two and I don't know if that is going to be possible. It's such a tough Big East this year and unfortunately we probably have the most difficult schedule of all of the top teams in the league.

- Primo

rconverse

01-17-2006, 04:52 PM

The one thing I can't stand about officiating is when it is inconsistent. Last night I saw a lot of inconsistencies with touch fouls being called on one end and tough fouls in the paint not being called on the other.
- Primo

Having played in college, that is the absolute worst. You can get used to a physical game or touch foul type game, but when there are calls that are all over the place, it is tough to find a rhythm.

ousooner

01-17-2006, 04:53 PM

who Kansas or Nebraska?
Come on, getting it together, winning the Big XII tournament. That has OU written all over it.

seekupig

01-17-2006, 06:37 PM

we're going to beat you come Jan 25th. It's a must win for us:D

you're Texas A&M. every game is a must win for you. name and reputation won't get you in if you're a bubble team.

KU can go 8-5 the rest of the way in the Big XII and probably still make it in. that would put them at 18-11. a win or two in the Big XII tourney would seal it, but they've still got their work cut out for them. if they could learn how to finish close games, this wouldn't even be a discussion. of their six losses, five of them have been by four points or less. if they could shoot free throws and cut back on the turnovers, they could easily be 15-1 right now.

ousooner

01-17-2006, 09:05 PM

you're Texas A&M. every game is a must win for you. name and reputation won't get you in if you're a bubble team.
Mean, but true.

chiznaz

01-17-2006, 09:21 PM

you're Texas A&M. every game is a must win for you. name and reputation won't get you in if you're a bubble team.

KU can go 8-5 the rest of the way in the Big XII and probably still make it in. that would put them at 18-11. a win or two in the Big XII tourney would seal it, but they've still got their work cut out for them. if they could learn how to finish close games, this wouldn't even be a discussion. of their six losses, five of them have been by four points or less. if they could shoot free throws and cut back on the turnovers, they could easily be 15-1 right now.

:lol Well if you give A&M four pts spread out over two games, we're sitting at the top of the BigXII with wins over Tech, OU, and OSU. If you really think A&M is anything like it was 2 yrs ago, you're in for a shock. You of all people should know that, being as Gillispie is a product of Bill Self. The BigXII won't be sending nearly as many teams to the tourny as they did last year at the rate it's going, so riding your schools reputation might not cut it this year.

unccrombie

01-17-2006, 09:29 PM

i-l-l--indiana rockin

bdb23

01-17-2006, 10:17 PM

Damn. Nice close by the Illini but just some poor decisions in the middle of the game led to the loss. Tough to win on the road in the Big Ten.

skywalker_009

01-17-2006, 10:21 PM

can i get a GO DAWGS!... anyone... anyone...

skywalker_009

01-17-2006, 10:38 PM

nobody... :(

ousooner

01-17-2006, 11:10 PM

:lol Well if you give A&M four pts spread out over two games, we're sitting at the top of the BigXII with wins over Tech, OU, and OSU. If you really think A&M is anything like it was 2 yrs ago, you're in for a shock. You of all people should know that, being as Gillispie is a product of Bill Self. The BigXII won't be sending nearly as many teams to the tourny as they did last year at the rate it's going, so riding your schools reputation might not cut it this year.
I wouldn't be using Bill Self to promote your coach, although Gillispie is doing an outstanding job. Bill Self sucks. Way overrated.

ousooner

01-17-2006, 11:11 PM

texas is killing Tech. Nothing better then seeing Bobby Knight get his ass kicked.

seekupig

01-17-2006, 11:56 PM

The BigXII won't be sending nearly as many teams to the tourny as they did last year at the rate it's going, so riding your schools reputation might not cut it this year.

reguardless of how strong the conference is, one thing remains true. if your school is named, Duke, UNC, Kentucky or Kansas and you're on the bubble, you're probably going to get the nod. i don't want it to come to that, i'd much rather get on a hot streak and play their way in. but i wouldn't be upset if they got in based on reputation. they're talented enough to make a run if they get in. the tournament committee looks at that. (see UNC in 2000). they had 18 wins, struggled most of the year, got the last at large bid as an 8 seed and made it to the Final Four.

seekupig

01-17-2006, 11:58 PM

I wouldn't be using Bill Self to promote your coach, although Gillispie is doing an outstanding job. Bill Self sucks. Way overrated.

Bill Self is the new Matt Doherty. great recruiter, terrible coach.

skywalker_009

01-18-2006, 12:04 AM

its so sad to see my little team that i love so much, struggle so much... but they have heart, and they are fighting for it... i guess thats all that i can ask at this point...

seekupig

01-18-2006, 12:08 AM

Tough to win on the road in the Big Ten.

that could be said for most major conferences.

UNC41

01-18-2006, 12:12 AM

(see UNC in 2000). they had 18 wins, struggled most of the year, got the last at large bid as an 8 seed and made it to the Final Four.

Heck yes they did.

UNLTrpt

01-18-2006, 12:12 AM

stupid huskers

seekupig

01-18-2006, 12:14 AM

stupid huskers

:lol

they must be going with the "we can't lose two in a row" theory so they can beat Kansas this weekend.

paris72

01-18-2006, 12:15 AM

Way to go UK!

seekupig

01-18-2006, 12:17 AM

Way to go UK!

isn't there a thread specifically designed for that garbage? ;)

gbs3769

01-18-2006, 12:25 AM

So my aunt is the best! She called my mom from the Villanova game tonight because the people that were near her were looking to get rid of tickets for the Syracuse game this weekend. They have a pair that they are getting rid of and my aunt called to see if we wanted them.

So now I have tickets guaranteed for the game. They should be first level, and they are only going to cost me $22 each. That is just fantastic! Now, if my other uncle comes through I will have 4 more tickets for the game and some of my buddies can go.

- Primo

UNLTrpt

01-18-2006, 02:08 AM

:lol

they must be going with the "we can't lose two in a row" theory so they can beat Kansas this weekend.

I'll take a W @ Kansas anyday over a W at home vs. ISU.

All this win does is make the bandwagon jumpers jump off. A win Sat or a couple strung together we will have them jumping back on.

unccrombie

01-18-2006, 02:17 AM

chiznaz

01-18-2006, 04:12 AM

I wouldn't be using Bill Self to promote your coach, although Gillispie is doing an outstanding job. Bill Self sucks. Way overrated.

Are you kidding? He won the Big Ten title in his first two years at Illinois. Didn't he also take Tulsa to the Elite Eight, and then take Illinois there the very next season? How is that not good coaching? If you look at all the schools he's been at, he's turned them around to be winning programs. If yall think he sucks because of what's going at Kansas, I think that's stupid. Look who he was following as a head coach. It's not like Kansas was struggling or anything. It's got to be damn hard to keep a program like that at the very top. Every once in a while, you're going to have a gap with young inexperienced kids. Kansas has a ton of fresh and soph this year.

Also lets get one thing straight. Coaches learn much of the game of basketball from people they were assistants under and such. Each coach, regardless of where they come from, is going to have their own coaching style. Gillispie coaches in a way similar to Bobby Knight (who I think is a great coach) minus all the attitude and anger problems. On the other side, he learned basketball in many ways from Bill Self, who in turn learned a lot of basketball from some great coaches. Bill Self was an assistant under Larry Brown at Kansas. He learned a lot of basketball being under him. He was an assistant under Eddie Sutton too. Both of those coaches have proven track records and play a style of basketball you can teach any team you're given. The stress good fundemental defense and don't tolerate any lackluster effort. I don't know how you could think Self is a bad coach given everything he's done.

UNLTrpt

01-18-2006, 04:25 AM

I'll take Self at Nebraska. Oh wait, he already turned down this job. damn.

chiznaz

01-18-2006, 04:37 AM

I'll take Self at Nebraska. Oh wait, he already turned down this job. damn.

As of right now, yall don't need anyone. 1st in the BigXII three games into confrence:D

ousooner

01-18-2006, 10:26 AM

Bill Self inherited great talent everywhere he's been and has won nothing.

seekupig

01-18-2006, 11:52 AM

Bill Self inherited great talent everywhere he's been and has won nothing.

actually, that great talent at Illinois last year was recruited by Bill Self. the freshman and sophomores that are playing at Kansas now were recruited by Bill Self. i don't think he's inherited much yet.

chiznaz

01-18-2006, 12:24 PM

Bill Self inherited great talent everywhere he's been and has won nothing.

Regardless of of if talent is there or not, you still have to be a good coach to win. For example, Melvin Watkins went 0-16, and the following year Gillispie took a very similar team to the NIT quaterfinals losing a close game to St. Joe's. That was all a result of coaching.

And as seeupig said, those fresh and soph at Kansas are all Bill Self's kids. The reason why they are struggling this year is the youth and inexperience. Just give them a year (two yrs tops) and they will be back atop the BigXII

seekupig

01-18-2006, 12:28 PM

those fresh and soph at Kansas are all Bill Self's kids. The reason why they are struggling this year is the youth and inexperience. Just give them a year (two yrs tops) and they will be back atop the BigXII

they'll be fine in about a month or two.

Brandon Rush won't be there next year, so they need to get it together now.

mizzoudmbfan

01-18-2006, 01:49 PM

We'd take Bill Self here at Missouri any day of the week. Oh wait, we turned him down for the mighty Quinn.:twak

I think that Self has lost some of his luster the last couple of years what with last year's early exit from the tourney and the sluggish start they are getting off to this season. But I still think he has some redeeming qualities, like has already been stated he bagged the kids that Weber used to get to StL last season for one. But as far as who you coached under translating success as a head coach...just look how much good Coach K's tutelage has done Snyder.

mizzoudmbfan

01-18-2006, 02:05 PM

Brandon Rush won't be there next year, so they need to get it together now.

Where exactly will he be next year? With the way he's been playing this year I can't imagine he'll be drafed that high even with a weaker class. I know that everyone assumed he would enter the last draft and when he signed with kU everyone else(Tigers included) was telling themselves"it's OK, we didn't want him, he'll only be around for a year":rolleyes. But so far I don't think he has really knocked anyone's socks off and if anything I'd say his stock has fallen alittle. Granted it's early in the season and he can still prove alot, especially in March when it matters(assuming kU gets it toghether and makes it in the tourney).

just my .02,
Rob