Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[ousooner]

Meh. Meh is the best I can describe it.

We would look great for 5 possessions and then look awful for 5. We got up by 14, then let them get to within 3.
We're still shooting well, 50%. Our free throw shooting is horrible though, only 9 of 17. That has been a major strength for us the last four or five years.

[RJ2kWJ]

I'm watching... not sure I agree with going for 2 right there.

They can go for two all they want.

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN DUKE!!! COME ON COACH K! COME ON JJ! COME ON SHELDEN! THIS IS WHERE THOSE 3 NEED TO TAKE OVER. PERIOD

[ousooner]

I'm watching... not sure I agree with going for 2 right there.
Why not? Make Duke win it at the line.

[ExistenceNow]

Why not? Make Duke win it at the line.

Reddick is close to a 90% FT shooter. and once he burries two.. they're going to have even less time to get the three off and rebound their probable miss.

[chiznaz]

Meh. Meh is the best I can describe it.

We would look great for 5 possessions and then look awful for 5. We got up by 14, then let them get to within 3.

A&M just can't compete talent wise with the top part of the BigXII yet. We're getting there though, especially with the class that we signed today! One of the best classes in the BigXII.

And to go back to the previous discussion. I really think the only reason A&M is hanging with teams like OU, KU, and possibly UT is the fact that they out hustle other teams night in and night out. It's the way Gillispie coaches. I'm always proud of the effort our guys put in for the most part. I just can't wait 'till next years crop of freshmen start playing.



Also, I ran into Coach Fran tonight at dinner with my girlfriend and parents. He was walking in the place to meet with the coaching staff to celebrate signing day I believe. I said hello and asked how he was doing. I know that sounds lame:lol but it was way cool at the time.

[ousooner]

Reddick is close to a 90% FT shooter. and once he burries two.. they're going to have even less time to get the three off and rebound their probable miss.

If I was K, I'd foul right now.
Still plenty of time. Get two and put anyone but JJ at the line.

[RJ2kWJ]

Reddick is close to a 90% FT shooter. and once he burries two.. they're going to have even less time to get the three off and rebound their probable miss.

If I was K, I'd foul right now.

Dont even need stats.... Simply said like this...

"JJ IS THE SINGLE MOST CLUTCH FREE THROW SHOOTER IN NCAA HISTORY"

OR

"JJ IS THE GREATEST FREE THROW SHOOTER IN NCAA HISTORY"

[ExistenceNow]

nice no call for the ref on that one... his kid must go to Duke (or be on the waiting list to get in).

[ousooner]

nice no call for the ref on that one... his kid must go to Duke.
Looks like hoops officials have picked up where the football refs left off. Unbelievable!

[twosteppn36]

he got hammered

[DMBfan41]

yeah, that was a bad call, but they shouldn't have been going for two against the Dukies.

Another win, I'll take it, still undefeated in ACC. Go Dukies!

[RJ2kWJ]

nice no call for the ref on that one... his kid must go to Duke (or be on the waiting list to get in).

I dont give a rats ass. That entire game was like that. SOOOO many retarded calls both ways. There was DUMB ass no calls they could have called on Duke. And vice versa.

[unccrombie]

dickie v said it, kids just dont know score strategy

[ExistenceNow]

I dont give a rats ass. That entire game was like that. SOOOO many retarded calls both ways. There was DUMB ass no calls they could called on Duke. And vice versa.

i don't give a rats ass either... just an observation followed by a joke.

[ExistenceNow]

in other news, Texas stomped Mizzou tonight. I'm looking forward to that end of the season matchup vs. you sooner fucks.

[RJ2kWJ]

i don't give a rats ass either... just an observation followed by a joke.

Oh I know I wasnt yelling at you or anything :lol I just happened to pick your post to talk about the refs horrible job on that game. Sorry. :D

[ExistenceNow]

Oh I know I wasnt yelling at you or anything :lol I just happened to pick your post to talk about the refs horrible job on that game. Sorry. :D

;) no worries bro...

[seekupig]

overlooked on the whole play is the fact that Sheldon Williams shouldn't have been going for a block in that situation. get out of the way and give him two points. only bad things can happen by fouling someone going hard to the basket in a three point game. (unless you're bailed out by the refs.)

[ousooner]

dickie v said it, kids just dont know score strategy
I don't see where it's necessary to throw up a three with 15 seconds left. If he gets that deuce with 7 seconds to go and puts anyone but JJ at the line theirs a chance Duke only hits one of two. If they hit both then go for the three at that time.

[ExistenceNow]

overlooked on the whole play is the fact that Sheldon Williams shouldn't have been going for a block in that situation. get out of the way and give him two points. only bad things can happen by fouling someone going hard to the basket in a three point game. (unless you're bailed out by the refs.)

no doubt.... that's the first dude I was yelling at (when i thought a fall was going to be called.)

[ousooner]

in other news, Texas stomped Mizzou tonight. I'm looking forward to that end of the season matchup vs. you sooner fucks.
Respect your superiors!

[smeritt]

That kid doesnt deserve a foul called if hes going for two with 7 seconds left. That's just plain stupid. In other news Syracuse actualyl won tonight. Good thing they held Doobie under 40 and had to have roberts hit a 3 to win? But hey atleast they won maybe thatll light a fire in their ass

[ExistenceNow]

Respect your superiors!

:lol we'll see. We're still on top in the polls and in Big XII standings.

[ousooner]

That kid doesnt deserve a foul called if hes going for two with 7 seconds left. That's just plain stupid. In other news Syracuse actualyl won tonight. Good thing they held Doobie under 40 and had to have roberts hit a 3 to win? But hey atleast they won maybe thatll light a fire in their ass
Why? Explain.

[smeritt]

I don't see where it's necessary to throw up a three with 15 seconds left. If he gets that deuce with 7 seconds to go and puts anyone but JJ at the line theirs a chance Duke only hits one of two. If they hit both then go for the three at that time.you dont have to throw up a three with 15 seconds left you use that 15 seconds to get an open look. JJ is the single best free throw shooter in NCAA history and paulus shoots 86 %. The team is the bets in the country in free throw percentage(or atleast in the top 5). Theres no way you make two and then hope they miss and you can actually score in 7 seconds.

[seekupig]

That kid doesnt deserve a foul called if hes going for two with 7 seconds left. That's just plain stupid.

if he was fouled, he deserves to go the line. period.

wasn't the smartest play, but a questioable decision by a player doesn't justify a no call by the ref.

[smeritt]

Why? Explain.lol way ahead of you. Of course what do I know I'm just a spectator.

[smeritt]

I was just making a joke didnt realize i was going to get hammered for it.

[RJ2kWJ]

Next... FSU. AT UNC. AT Maryland.

DAMN!

[ousooner]

I just think that if you shoot and miss down 3 you're done. 1 made free throw makes it a two possession game. The longer you keep it a one possession game the better chance you have. Don't shoot a 3 until you have too. A made basket with 7 seconds and a foul with 6 seconds left leaves plenty of time to get a 3 off if Duke makes both or even a 2 off if Duke were to miss a free throw. Just my opinion.

Edit: This situation excludes JJ. Don't let JJ get the ball.

[seekupig]

The team is the bets in the country in free throw percentage(or atleast in the top 5) .

wrong. they're 6th. ;)

how many times has Duke trailed in a game this season? making free throws that matter in a close game is a lot different than making them in garbage time in a thirty point blow out. you never know how someone is going to react to the pressure of having to make free throws to win a game.

[smeritt]

You also don't know if your team is actually going ot make a rebound. Which BC did not do and McRoberts got a rebound at an important point in the game. I just thing theres to many things that can go wrong by putting someone on the line and then only have 5 or 6 seconds left to get off and open look. Even McRoberts who is a 53% shooter made 2 FT towards the end to keep Duke up. Either way if you foul or if you shoot you have to hope the ball bounces your way.

[ousooner]

:lol we'll see. We're still on top in the polls and in Big XII standings.
1. Sign the letter of intent.
2. Hate texas

http://www.soonerexpress.com/mccoy/mccoy12.JPG

[ExistenceNow]

1. Sign the letter of intent.
2. Hate texas

http://www.soonerexpress.com/mccoy/mccoy12.JPG

who is that?

[ousooner]

who is that?
http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3897813&postcount=7093

Edit: That's a picture from this morning at his high school in Oklahoma City.

[SteelerMan]

That was a horrendous no call. Even Dookie V called out the refs on that one!!! That's how bad it was. And I agree with the decision to go for two. Paulus had already missed two free throws and they had turned the ball over on an inbound play in the last minute and a half, so if I can get anyone but Redick to the line or force them to have to inbound the ball, I'm doing it with 7 seconds left.

[seekupig]

Coach K's perspective on the end of the game no call.......:rolleyes


The Duke forward stood his ground and sent Rice to the floor without drawing a foul, preserving the second-ranked Blue Devils' 83-81 victory over Boston College (No. 14 ESPN/USA Today; No. 15 AP) on Wednesday night.

"We're spoiled by his defense," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "He doesn't leap tall buildings with a single bound, but he got seven blocks tonight. That was a terrific play, as were his free throws."

[RJ2kWJ]

Coach K's perspective on the end of the game no call.......:rolleyes


The Duke forward stood his ground and sent Rice to the floor without drawing a foul, preserving the second-ranked Blue Devils' 83-81 victory over Boston College (No. 14 ESPN/USA Today; No. 15 AP) on Wednesday night.

"We're spoiled by his defense," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "He doesn't leap tall buildings with a single bound, but he got seven blocks tonight. That was a terrific play, as were his free throws."

And he's right cuz Shelden is a fuckin MONNNNNNNNSTER

[unccrombie]

I don't see where it's necessary to throw up a three with 15 seconds left. If he gets that deuce with 7 seconds to go and puts anyone but JJ at the line theirs a chance Duke only hits one of two. If they hit both then go for the three at that time.
if you watched what nova did to ND you wouldn't be saying that

[seekupig]

And he's right cuz Shelden is a fuckin MONNNNNNNNSTER

no, he's not. he's a slightly above average player, but nothing special.

[SteelerMan]

And he's right cuz Shelden is a fuckin MONNNNNNNNSTER

I have no respect for anyone who can watch that replay and not admit it was a foul. I'm not saying it cost BC the game or anything, but come on... it was a foul.

[RJ2kWJ]

I have no respect for anyone who can watch that replay and not admit it was a foul. I'm not saying it cost BC the game or anything, but come on... it was a foul.

Oh I admit it was too. But I dont care cuz the whole damn game was like that on both sides of the ball. The officiating was HORRIBLE. Only reason people are seeing that one was because it was within the last minute when it was real close.

[RJ2kWJ]

no, he's not. he's a slightly above average player, but nothing special.

Is that why hes rated the #2 player in the nation only behind JJ? Ahead of Adam Morrison?

[SteelerMan]

Is that why hes rated the #2 player in the nation only behind JJ? Ahead of Adam Morrison?

:ugh

Umm, according to who?

[seekupig]

Is that why hes rated the #2 player in the nation only behind JJ? Ahead of Adam Morrison?

anyone that has Sheldon Williams rated ahead of Adam Morrison is smoking crack. you can pull all of the player rankings you want, it won't change how i feel. i think he's overrated and is a product of the system he's in. he has bad games more often than an elite player should. i'm not saying he isn't a good player, just not the great one that he's made out to be.

[smeritt]

No one here should be able to rag on Sheldon Williams. He's one of the quitest players in the game. He just hustles his ass off and will put up 20 on ya if you dont be careful. Then again to rank him ahead of Morrison is just a joke. I only give JJ the edge slightly.

[UNLTrpt]

Is that why hes rated the #2 player in the nation only behind JJ? Ahead of Adam Morrison?

:lol

silliest. statement. ever.

[SteelerMan]

Hansbrough is already near Shelden Williams' level, and he's only a freshman. Williams is good though.

[cityondown5]

anyone that has Sheldon Williams rated ahead of Adam Morrison is smoking crack. you can pull all of the player rankings you want, it won't change how i feel. i think he's overrated and is a product of the system he's in. he has bad games more often than an elite player should. i'm not saying he isn't a good player, just not the great one that he's made out to be.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Basically sums up my feeling for him. I may be biased, but I would take Paul Davis over Shelden any day. Anyone agree?

[SteelerMan]

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Basically sums up my feeling for him. I may be biased, but I would take Paul Davis over Shelden any day. Anyone agree?

I wouldn't, but Davis is good too.

[paris72]

Blah blah Duke blah blah:thumbsdow

[RJ2kWJ]

Blah blah Duke blah blah:thumbsdow

Your just pissed about your horrible ass current basketball program.

OH MY GOD BUT WERE THE BEST EVER AND STUFF AND SHIT AND YEA.

[UNLTrpt]

Blah blah Duke blah blah:thumbsdow

:thumbsup

sorry. Duke is the new york yankees of college basketball.

everybody hates em.

I have absolutely no connections to duke or the teams they play and I still hate em.

[ousooner]

:thumbsup

sorry. Duke is the new york yankees of college basketball.

everybody hates em.

I have absolutely no connections to duke or the teams they play and I still hate em.
I like Duke. I have no connections or anything, I just admire Coach K and his program. I don't necissarily root for them, but I don't root against them. What I don't like is Duke fans complaining about officiating.

[seekupig]

No one here should be able to rag on Sheldon Williams.

no one's ragging on him. just saying that he is overrated as a player. which he is.

[unccrombie]

big road game for unc tonight

[RJ2kWJ]

:thumbsup

sorry. Duke is the new york yankees of college basketball.

everybody hates em.

I have absolutely no connections to duke or the teams they play and I still hate em.

How are they the Yankees? I know NY fans all over the country for absolutely no reason. Every Duke fan I know either their parents went there or they go there. People that like them for no reason are retarded... but from just what ive seen/heard... everyone HATES them, unlike the Yankees.

[ousooner]

How are they the Yankees? I know NY fans all over the country for absolutely no reason. Every Duke fan I know either their parents went there or they go there. People that like them for no reason are retarded... but from just what ive seen/heard... everyone HATES them, unlike the Yankees.
So to like a team you have to go there or your parents had to go there? That sounds retarded to me.

[RJ2kWJ]

So to like a team you have to go there or your parents had to go there? That sounds retarded to me.

No im saying you have to have some reliable connection.

I cant just pick up and go "I like Texas football now" or "Burnt orange is pretty, so Ima like Texas"

[UNLTrpt]

No im saying you have to have some reliable connection.

I cant just pick up and go "I like Texas football now" or "Burnt orange is pretty, so Ima like Texas"

plenty of people do. they're called bandwagoners and duke has a lot and so do the yankees.

[ousooner]

No im saying you have to have some reliable connection.

I cant just pick up and go "I like Texas football now" or "Burnt orange is pretty, so Ima like Texas"
OK, got ya, my bad.

[HolyCow]

I like Duke. I have no connections or anything, I just admire Coach K and his program. I don't necissarily root for them, but I don't root against them. What I don't like is Duke fans complaining about officiating.

My exact feeling.

My favorite college basketball coaches:

1. Kelvin Sampson
2. Sherri Coale
3. Coach K.


500. Eddie Sutton.

[unccrombie]

big win over MD...mmmmmmmmm acc play

[seekupig]

Every Duke fan I know either their parents went there or they go there.

Every Duke fan I know falls into neither of those criteria.

[seekupig]

big win over MD...mmmmmmmmm acc play

big win for your boys tonite. needed that one bad with the schedule you guys face to close the season.

with 9 games to go, they are faced with this.....

Clemson
Duke
@ Miami
Georgia Tech
@ Wake Forest
@ NC State
Maryland
Virginia
@ Duke

5-4 in the games they have left will get them in. 4-5 might be enough, but that will be pushing it.

[UNC41]

big win for your boys tonite. needed that one bad with the schedule you guys face to close the season.

with 9 games to go, they are faced with this.....

Clemson
Duke
@ Miami
Georgia Tech
@ Wake Forest
@ NC State
Maryland
Virginia
@ Duke

5-4 in the games they have left will get them in. 4-5 might be enough, but that will be pushing it.

It was a huge win. Maryland is only #23, but with that schedule it is very big when it comes to making the tourny.

[siouxsiesue]

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Basically sums up my feeling for him. I may be biased, but I would take Paul Davis over Shelden any day. Anyone agree?

I am biased. Paul Davis has been a powerhorse for MSU. :thumbsup

(sorry to crash your thread, boys)

[Third Floor]

How are they the Yankees? I know NY fans all over the country for absolutely no reason. Every Duke fan I know either their parents went there or they go there. People that like them for no reason are retarded... but from just what ive seen/heard... everyone HATES them, unlike the Yankees.
are you shitting me. 90% of the duke fans i know have no connection to them. which is almost as many fans as unc have that have no connection to them.

[DMBfan41]

I've been a Duke fan since I can remember. Even when I was a kid I rooted for Duke for no reason. I think I started liking them because I liked the name Duke.

I got no connections with Duke, no one in my family went there, I certainly don't go there. Call me a bandwagon fan if you want, I started rooting for Duke when I started watching basketball in 1994 when they lost to Arkansas in the championship. So, i dunno. I was 8 when I started rooting for them and i've been a fan of Duke basketball for 12 years now.

So I definately don't think you need to have a connection with a school to be a fan

[HolyCow]

I am a Sooner because A) I live in Oklahoma, B) My family loves the Sooners, C) I go to school at OU and D) it is the best University in the world.

[UNC41]

are you shitting me. 90% of the duke fans i know have no connection to them. which is almost as many fans as unc have that have no connection to them.

And that means....?

If you're saying all those other fans are bandwagon fans you are full of it.

[RJ2kWJ]

I've been a Duke fan since I can remember. Even when I was a kid I rooted for Duke for no reason. I think I started liking them because I liked the name Duke.

I got no connections with Duke, no one in my family went there, I certainly don't go there. Call me a bandwagon fan if you want, I started rooting for Duke when I started watching basketball in 1994 when they lost to Arkansas in the championship. So, i dunno. I was 8 when I started rooting for them and i've been a fan of Duke basketball for 12 years now.

So I definately don't think you need to have a connection with a school to be a fan

I mean I guess I can understand it that way. Some people wont though. Tough decision though.

I mean for me, my mom and dad started taking me to Cameron when I was no older than 6 or 7. I would only miss about 2 or 3 games a season at home, but that wouldnt have happened if they didnt go there.

[unccrombie]

big win for your boys tonite. needed that one bad with the schedule you guys face to close the season.

with 9 games to go, they are faced with this.....

Clemson
Duke
@ Miami
Georgia Tech
@ Wake Forest
@ NC State
Maryland
Virginia
@ Duke

5-4 in the games they have left will get them in. 4-5 might be enough, but that will be pushing it.
i'm gonna go out on a limb and say they'll go 6-4

[mizzoudmbfan]

I got no connections with Duke...I started rooting for Duke when I started watching basketball in 1994 when they lost to Arkansas in the championship.

Awfully convenient that you started rooting for them in a year they played in a championship game and they had won two of the three prior NCs. Not saying you are a band wagon fan because you seem to have stuck it out in the "tough times":rolleyes since then, just pointing that out.

The thing that I get more frustrated with in the world of college sports fandom is people that cheer for one school from September-New Years and another school from January-March...and more often than not it seems that it's really convenient match ups with one trick ponies like Nebraska and Syracuse or FSU and Duke to name two completely random combinations, it's never a combo like UNC and KSU or kU and USC.

Part of what I love about college is that it goes beyond the grid iron/court/classroom and it is bigger than what has gone on in the last decade. Whether you are a student athlete or just a student you are a Tiger/Jayhawk/Husky/whatever for life in every aspect Football, Men's/Women's hoops, gymnastics, baseball, academics, everything. A football season where we have a losing record makes a basketball team that makes it to the elite eight all that more enjoyable and vice versa(you know highs with the lows etc). And if you happen to cheer for or attend Texas you better enjoy the hell out of this year.

just my .02,
Rob

[chiznaz]

Every Duke fan I know falls into neither of those criteria.
amen to that.

I'm and Aggie because I'm the third generation to go here, and I live in Texas.

If you aren't affiliated with the university you cheer for, it just makes you a T-shirt fan. ;) just kidding

[DMBfan41]

i wouldn't say it's awfully convenient, 1994 was when I started watching basketball, I was only 8, and if I really was a bandwagon, I would've started rooting for Arkansas since they won.

I mean, I really don't care what anyone says, I've been watching Duke games for 12 years, I know that I am a fan and I stay a fan even when they lose. Yeah, I live in Jersey, yeah I only get to go to the games when they are playing in MSG or the meadowlands, but I still cheer my ass off all season long and watch every game that's on TV. I know I'm a fan, I don't need others telling me what kind of a fan I am.

[mizzoudmbfan]

i wouldn't say it's awfully convenient, 1994 was when I started watching basketball, I was only 8, and if I really was a bandwagon, I would've started rooting for Arkansas since they won.

I mean, I really don't care what anyone says, I've been watching Duke games for 12 years, I know that I am a fan and I stay a fan even when they lose. Yeah, I live in Jersey, yeah I only get to go to the games when they are playing in MSG or the meadowlands, but I still cheer my ass off all season long and watch every game that's on TV. I know I'm a fan, I don't need others telling me what kind of a fan I am.

:thumbsup

Hey, more power to ya. I agree you defiantly don't need to prove why you cheer for Duke to me or anyone else. Granted they did not WIN the title, I was just pointing out that they were not exactly in the midst of a slump in 1994 seeing that they fielded a final four caliber team.

[seekupig]

:thumbsup



looks like Quinn is getting shit canned after the season. how do you feel about it? who's is line to replace him?

[mizzoudmbfan]

looks like Quinn is getting shit canned after the season. how do you feel about it? who's is line to replace him?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Quinn. It should have happened a while ago. After the ISU game I didn't think he had a prayer. I don't care if he beats you guys again and wins the XII tourny, get him out of here. He has had more than enough time to slightly build on what Norm left him, destroy that, and rebuild the program....he just failed to do that last step.

I gotta get out the door otherwise I'd go into my thoughts on replacements.

I'll leave you with this. I heard Roy was looking at real estate in Columbia.:rolleyes

[ousooner]

I am a Sooner because A) I live in Oklahoma, B) My family loves the Sooners, C) I go to school at OU and D) it is the best University in the world.
I'm going on 28 years in this state, I'm an OU alumn, and I was a die hard Sooner fan long before I went to school their. Does that count?

[HolyCow]

The thing that I get more frustrated with in the world of college sports fandom is people that cheer for one school from September-New Years and another school from January-March...and more often than not it seems that it's really convenient match ups with one trick ponies like Nebraska and Syracuse or FSU and Duke to name two completely random combinations, it's never a combo like UNC and KSU or kU and USC.



This gets a huge :thumbsup from me.

I hate people that say, "I like OU in football, but OSU in basketball." All that says, (past history...) is that you try and root for a winner.

Then, when the tides turn and now OU is in the top 20 and OSU sucks, they go back and say, "Well I have always loved OU basketball. I am rooting for them...."


In defense of my good bud Primo, I believe he was born and reared in Nebraska and goes to school at Syracuse. That qualifies as "ok" in my book. Better to have one school, but it is acceptable.

[seekupig]

from ESPN.com...... (all conferences are on the link at the bottome of this post....)

Ready to fall: Kentucky (26). Record now: 15-6, 5-2. Projected record heading into the postseason: 20-10, 10-6. Yeah, the Wildcats are playing better -- namely, shooting better -- but the schedule is about to get a whole lot tougher. Kentucky still has to play Florida and Tennessee twice, plus trips to Vandy and LSU.

Big 12
Ready to rise: Kansas (9). Record now: 14-6, 5-2. Projected record heading into postseason: 21-8, 12-4. The Jayhawks haven't learned how to close out a close game -- their record in games decided by single digits is a gruesome 0-5 -- but that should change this month, as Bill Self's talented baby birds continue to grow up.
Ready to fall: Texas A&M (10) Record now: 13-6, 3-5. Projected record heading into postseason: 16-11, 6-10. The Aggies are allowing opponents to shoot 48 percent from the field and 44 percent from 3-point range in Big 12 games, and they still have to play Texas twice. Looks like a ticket to the NIT.
Coach sweating it out: Missouri's Quin Snyder (11). A four-game Big 12 losing streak -- by an average margin of 15.8 points -- has all but iced Snyder. (One guy who is not a realistic candidate to replace Snyder: Bob Huggins.)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2316283

[ousooner]

from ESPN.com...... (all conferences are on the link at the bottome of this post....)

Ready to fall: Kentucky (26). Record now: 15-6, 5-2. Projected record heading into the postseason: 20-10, 10-6. Yeah, the Wildcats are playing better -- namely, shooting better -- but the schedule is about to get a whole lot tougher. Kentucky still has to play Florida and Tennessee twice, plus trips to Vandy and LSU.

Big 12
Ready to rise: Kansas (9). Record now: 14-6, 5-2. Projected record heading into postseason: 21-8, 12-4. The Jayhawks haven't learned how to close out a close game -- their record in games decided by single digits is a gruesome 0-5 -- but that should change this month, as Bill Self's talented baby birds continue to grow up.
Ready to fall: Texas A&M (10) Record now: 13-6, 3-5. Projected record heading into postseason: 16-11, 6-10. The Aggies are allowing opponents to shoot 48 percent from the field and 44 percent from 3-point range in Big 12 games, and they still have to play Texas twice. Looks like a ticket to the NIT.
Coach sweating it out: Missouri's Quin Snyder (11). A four-game Big 12 losing streak -- by an average margin of 15.8 points -- has all but iced Snyder. (One guy who is not a realistic candidate to replace Snyder: Bob Huggins.)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2316283
I'm assuming that one of those two remaining losses he's referring to comes this weekend ;)

[seekupig]

I'm assuming that one of those two remaining losses he's referring to comes this weekend ;)

i don't. i think they'll win this weekend, lose to Texas and another one that's not expected.

[UNLTrpt]

Nebraska vs. the doormat tomorrow night

I'm gonna try and drum up a friend or two to see if they want to go.

Then next Wed will be the game that probably makes or breaks our season. KU.

[mizzoudmbfan]

I stole this from the Mizzou board which stole it from the kU board which stole it from God knows where. I'm sure some of you guys have already seen this or something like it.

Greensboro, (NC) Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford announced today that a foul is tentatively scheduled to be called against Duke sometime in the first half of their game with UNC in Chapel Hill, next Tuesday, February 7th.

In a joint press conference with Duke head coach Mike Krzyzewski, and ACC Director of Officials John Clougherty, Swofford said an agreement had been reached for a touch foul to be whistled on as-yet-to-be-determined Blue Devil player around the 7:00 minute mark during the first half of the game at the Smith Center.

"We are very excited to arrange something that hasn't been seen in our conference since 1998," said Swofford. "I want to personally commend Mike (Krzyzewski) for agreeing to this unconventional deal. We all know how reluctant he has been to allow any calls to go against his team."

Krzyzewski insisted that this move was purely a gesture of generosity aimed at rehabilitating his public image in light of recent lip-synching fiascos during several nationally televised games. "The camera did not catch me really uttering the BS-word during my argument with the official the other night. Those really were my lips moving but I wasn't really yelling the word. I'm sure our fans will understand."

"Mike is being a really good sport about this," noted UNC coach Roy Williams. "This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to play them with a foul being called against their squad, and to have it happen here in front of the home crowd will be especially enjoyable for our fans."

Clougherty says that unless unforeseen intimidation happens during the game, that the scheduled foul should occur without a hitch. "It all depends on whether Coach K holds up his end of the bargain and promises not to harrass our crew that evening."

Clougherty also said not to expect any more fouls to be called against Duke this season, but did not rule out the possibility of another one being called in an exhibition game in November 2007. "The Duke AD told me that they are trying to schedule Marathon Oil for a pre-season game next year and we are in discussions about perhaps calling another foul against Duke in that match-up if everyone can come to terms."

The officiating crew for the Duke vs. UNC game will not be announced publicly prior to the game in order to protect their privacy. Swofford said he anticipated a media barrage and did not want the referees to be distracted from their big task at hand. "This is a big deal and a momentous occasion for the league. We need our employees to remain focused so that they can complete their jobs in what could end up being a very difficult situation."

Game Notes: If the foul occurs on February 7th, it will be the 27th foul called against the Blue Devils in their basketball history........... UNC fan favorite Byron (Colonel) Sanders had a chicken bone removed from his throat yesterday, and is expected to be recovered for the game...... Dick Vitale and Mike Patrick will be handling the TV play by play for ESPN. Vitale says he has no idea what he will say when the foul is called against Duke but he has been placed on a prescription sedative as a preventive measure. (Patrick could not be reached for comment, and was last seen entering a tanning salon in Durham with a picture of JJ Redick)......... A CBS 60 Minutes television crew is planning to attend the game to catch the event on tape for an upcoming expose on the Duke basketball program and how Mike Krzyzewski uses friendships and loyalty to advance his own agenda.

[UNLTrpt]

Dukeback mountain :lol

[UNLTrpt]

Can't believe there hasn't been that much action in this thread.

NU has the bears today. That W combined with either a OU-KU loss will put NU in at least a tie for 4th in the league.

[unccrombie]

i cant believe this duke game isnt on instead of the uconn/indiana game. ive been watchin the play by play on espn :( garrrr

[DMBfan41]

wow, Notre Dame, pathetic attempt in the last minute of OT.

[DMBfan41]

and yeah, im very pissed that the Duke game isn't on ESPN or CBS, i'm "watching" the game on yahoo.

94-91 with 38.9 left

[unccrombie]

wow, Notre Dame, pathetic attempt in the last minute of OT.
it just hasnt been their year with under 1 to go :lol kinda feel sorry for them

[DMBfan41]

J.J. missed a free throw!

95-93 with 10.9 left,

[DMBfan41]

and now Shelden misses a free throw

[DMBfan41]

missed them both, damnit!

95-93 with 4 seconds left. 30 sec timeout by Duke

[unccrombie]

i can read! shush you :lol

[DMBfan41]

ha, sorry, i don't know what to do, i hate not watching

[DMBfan41]

woo, Duke wins!

[unccrombie]

i cant believe they blew that, wow

[smeritt]

So Notre Dame loses again by 3 points in OT, such a shitty season for them. To lose 9 of their last 10 by 3 or less points or something. Duke pulls out a nail biter against FSU. What happened with UCONNvsIU? I stopped watching after half and turned it on and Indiana was getting monkeystomped

[unccrombie]

So Notre Dame loses again by 3 points in OT, such a shitty season for them. To lose 9 of their last 10 by 3 or less points or something. Duke pulls out a nail biter against FSU. What happened with UCONNvsIU? I stopped watching after half and turned it on and Indiana was getting monkeystomped
the world is once again in equilibrium

[Third Floor]

dont worry, next season ND will hire a high profile NBA asst coach, theyll have a above average, but not stellar season, the media will love them, coach will get a 10 year contract, and theyll be a 2 seed.

[smeritt]

dont worry, next season ND will hire a high profile NBA asst coach, theyll have a above average, but not stellar season, the media will love them, coach will get a 10 year contract, and theyll be a 2 seed.Well someones bitter ND got some hype this year in football

[UNLTrpt]

and yeah, im very pissed that the Duke game isn't on ESPN or CBS, i'm "watching" the game on yahoo.

94-91 with 38.9 left

I don't ever remember seeing duke on CBS in the regular season. It probably has something to do with conf. TV contracts.

[unccrombie]

Well someones bitter ND got some hype this year in football
prob just thought they were over rated. which i could see, but i don't think they were. they just lacked a stable defense

[cityondown5]

How many more of these games can ND take? They are a decent team, definatly not second worst team in the Big East.

[UNLTrpt]

very respectable showing for aTm. Played tough at Tex-ass.

[smeritt]

How many more of these games can ND take? They are a decent team, definatly not second worst team in the Big East.Idk what more you can do to win that game. Dean put up a last minute effort with a hand in his face. They gotta do something to blow a team out or theyre gonig to be emotionally drained forever.

[ousooner]

Today's hoops schedule has sucked. There were a few exciting games, but no great matchups.

[ousooner]

Well, at least we got one major upset today with Illinois going down.

[UNLTrpt]

Nebraska gets the win. We were down by 7 at the half and came back and cruised by 15. 60-45.

Now 5th place in the league, guranteed to be at least tied for 4th w/ OU and KU playing.

[haildmb]

Awfully convenient that you started rooting for them in a year they played in a championship game and they had won two of the three prior NCs. Not saying you are a band wagon fan because you seem to have stuck it out in the "tough times":rolleyes since then, just pointing that out.

The thing that I get more frustrated with in the world of college sports fandom is people that cheer for one school from September-New Years and another school from January-March...and more often than not it seems that it's really convenient match ups with one trick ponies like Nebraska and Syracuse or FSU and Duke to name two completely random combinations, it's never a combo like UNC and KSU or kU and USC.

Part of what I love about college is that it goes beyond the grid iron/court/classroom and it is bigger than what has gone on in the last decade. Whether you are a student athlete or just a student you are a Tiger/Jayhawk/Husky/whatever for life in every aspect Football, Men's/Women's hoops, gymnastics, baseball, academics, everything. A football season where we have a losing record makes a basketball team that makes it to the elite eight all that more enjoyable and vice versa(you know highs with the lows etc). And if you happen to cheer for or attend Texas you better enjoy the hell out of this year.

just my .02,
Rob



I love people that try to come up with rules for being a fan.

There are no rules: just that you enjoy and support the team.

I've been a Duke basketball fan since I was probably about 6 yrs old; I do not care about Duke football. I grew up in North Carolina where, for the most part, we couldn't give two shits about football. I didn't really get into college football until I went to college, but basketball(and Duke) is still my #1.

[unccrombie]

hell of a comeback on kansas' part, nice win

[ousooner]

I don't think I've ever been madder after a game. What a joke! Taj Gray repeatedly gets mauled inside and no calls, OU guys taking charges and no calls, on the final basket after Neal hit the 3 to put OU ahead the KU guy comes down and pushes the OU defender to the ground before scoring and no call. The refs simply swallowed their whistles in the second half. Unbelievable!

[UNLTrpt]

I thought KU was done.

[HolyCow]

One of the worst officitiated games I have seen this year. OU shot 7 free throws I think?

And why was that not a technical foul on Brandon Rush for tossing the ball downcourt?

[HolyCow]

I don't think I've ever been madder after a game. What a joke! Taj Gray repeatedly gets mauled inside and no calls, OU guys taking charges and no calls, on the final basket after Neal hit the 3 to put OU ahead the KU guy comes down and pushes the OU defender to the ground before scoring and no call. The refs simply swallowed their whistles in the second half. Unbelievable!

I am sick. Absolutely sick. A great game by the Sooners taken away from them. I refuse to give Kansas credit for that win.

[UNLTrpt]

I don't think I've ever been madder after a game. What a joke! Taj Gray repeatedly gets mauled inside and no calls, OU guys taking charges and no calls, on the final basket after Neal hit the 3 to put OU ahead the KU guy comes down and pushes the OU defender to the ground before scoring and no call. The refs simply swallowed their whistles in the second half. Unbelievable!

But that's the way it goes Brian, you know that. They let em play in the Big 12. Now I didn't see the play/plays you were talking about. I do know that KU was at home and they are going to get their fair share of calls.

[ousooner]

I am sick. Absolutely sick. A great game by the Sooners taken away from them. I refuse to give Kansas credit for that win.
We couldn't even get into the one and one at the end of the game. That's how few fouls were called.

[ousooner]

Those officials must have been from Lubbock.

[HolyCow]

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup Those officials must have been from Lubbock.


:lol :lol :lol

Taj shot two freakin' free throws. Bookout, none. 3 free throws came on a 3 point foul on neal, and the other two on Godbold's fastbreak.

We didn't need foul calls to get out to the 16 point lead. Kansas turned up the pressure on defense when they got down and in turn, the referrees put away the whistles. When a team is hacking and foul and playing tight defense, there is nothing an offense can do if they can't get a call.

[haildmb]

wow nicely done kansas.


lot of crying going on in this thread right now, from all the bitching about officials you'd think it was Duke who was playing

[ousooner]

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


:lol :lol :lol

Taj shot two freakin' free throws. Bookout, none. 3 free throws came on a 3 point foul on neal, and the other two on Godbold's fastbreak.

We didn't need foul calls to get out to the 16 point lead. Kansas turned up the pressure on defense when they got down and in turn, the referrees put away the whistles. When a team is hacking and foul and playing tight defense, there is nothing an offense can do if they can't get a call.
You usually don't see runs like that or comebacks like that because an official will eventually make a call giving a team a couple of free throws breaking momentum. These refs just refused to do it.

We were up 50-38 and I thought, if we get to 60 we win. Every time I think like that we come up short.

[HolyCow]

wow nicely done kansas.


lot of crying going on in this thread right now, from all the bitching about officials you'd think it was Duke who was playing

It was a bullcrap game and I have no problem crying. It is my job as a fan after my team loses a heartbreaker.

[ousooner]

wow nicely done kansas.


lot of crying going on in this thread right now, from all the bitching about officials you'd think it was Duke who was playing
I wouldn't expect you to understand. Being a Duke fan you've never been shafted by the officials.

[haildmb]

I wouldn't expect you to understand. Being a Duke fan you've never been shafted by the officials.


The final four game vs UConn 2 yrs ago.

[ousooner]

Well, that ruined my day. Screw the Superbowl, I'm going to bed.

[ousooner]

For anyone questioning the officiating in that game, so far KState, Nebraska, North Carolina, and even texas fans have come to the OU rivals board to tell us how bad we got jobbed.

This from a texas fan
From a Horn fan

You got screwed. Not that the refs made bad calls. They didn't make any calls at all and KU was just slapping and grabbing on those put backs after the offense rebounds. Look forward to a good game in Austin. Course we saw the opposite yesterday with Aldridge breathing on people and gettting a foul called on him. The big 12 has no consistency at all.
This from a Carolina fan
wow I thought ACC refs were bad

That has to be one of the worst ref'd games of the year!
This from a Nebraska fan during KU's late run
Talk about a screw job

The refs are on KU's side right now...plenty of hacks when OU gets the ball down low and ive seen OU take two charges the last couple possessions which were both no calls.

[HolyCow]

For anyone questioning the officiating in that game, so far KState, Nebraska, North Carolina, and even texas fans have come to the OU rivals board to tell us how bad we got jobbed.



It was ridiculous, no doubt. I can't believe they didn't call Chalmers on his Heisman pose stiff arm on Michael Neal that wound up being the game winner.

We will rebound against Baylor this weekend and get back on track.

And also: I was so sick of Clark Kellogg calling Kelvin Sampson, "Calvin."

[UNC41]

Less than 48 hours until the greatest rivalry in collegiate sports is resurrected. Go Heels.

[bubba40]

It was ridiculous, no doubt. I can't believe they didn't call Chalmers on his Heisman pose stiff arm on Michael Neal that wound up being the game winner.

We will rebound against Baylor this weekend and get back on track.

And also: I was so sick of Clark Kellogg calling Kelvin Sampson, "Calvin."

I would take a bullet for Clark Kellogg.

[chiznaz]

One of the worst officitiated games I have seen this year. OU shot 7 free throws I think?

And why was that not a technical foul on Brandon Rush for tossing the ball downcourt?

You obviously didn't see the OU-A&M game at College Station. Bookout mauled Jones all the way down the court and on the shot. That was a big no call.;)

[ousooner]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9212050

I wish the Big 12 would have some balls to do something like this. As I've stated before, I have nothing against Duke and I like Coach K, but I sure don't want to hear Duke fans complaining about officiating. That's two calls in two very tight games in the same week that they benefited from to pull out close wins.

ACC suspends crew for tech call against Florida State player
Feb. 6, 2006
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports


GREENSBORO, N.C. -- Referees who worked Saturday's game between Florida State and Duke were given a one-game suspension for an unnecessary technical foul on a Seminoles player, the Atlantic Coast Conference said Monday.

The crew of Mike Eades, Ray Natili and Ed Corbett shouldn't have assessed a technical foul to Florida State's Alexander Johnson in the second half of Duke's 97-96 overtime win on Saturday, said John Clougherty, ACC coordinator of men's basketball officials.

The technical was Johnson's fifth foul, and he left the game with 9:23 remaining. Johnson had 13 points and 11 rebounds before he went to the bench.

"It came as a surprise to me," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said Monday.

Johnson picked up his fourth foul for an intentional foul on Duke center Shelden Williams, who quickly got to his feet and bumped into Johnson. Television replays showed Johnson attempting to back away from the altercation, which resulted in technicals for both players.

Referees also whistled Johnson for an intentional foul against Williams in the first half.

[HolyCow]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9212050

I wish the Big 12 would have some balls to do something like this. As I've stated before, I have nothing against Duke and I like Coach K, but I sure don't want to hear Duke fans complaining about officiating. That's two calls in two very tight games in the same week that they benefited from to pull out close wins.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup for the ACC.

[DMBfan41]

FDU is taking control of the NEC, 7 game winning streak.

10-2, first place in the conference.

Yeeah baby!

[cfh72]

Go Zags!!

[RJ2kWJ]

Waiting for the infamous poll to come up on ESPN again...

Because arguably the greatest rivalry in college sports is tomorrow. :D Im waiting for the UNC/Duke vs. Michigan/Ohio St. poll to arise on ESPN.com. They both always finish too close with Duke/UNC always coming out slightly on top.

Also curious to see if Tyler can hold his own on Shelden.

[UNC41]

Waiting for the infamous poll to come up on ESPN again...

Because arguably the greatest rivalry in college sports is tomorrow. :D Im waiting for the UNC/Duke vs. Michigan/Ohio St. poll to arise on ESPN.com. They both always finish too close with Duke/UNC always coming out slightly on top.

Also curious to see if Tyler can hold his own on Shelden.

I can't wait, although I'm not too optimistic heading into the game.

Sheldon is a phenominal shot blocker and really good on defense, but he hasn't been as good at shutting guys down as everyone has hyped him up to be.

[clayj41]

I can't wait, although I'm not too optimistic heading into the game.

Sheldon is a phenominal shot blocker and really good on defense, but he hasn't been as good at shutting guys down as everyone has hyped him up to be.

:thumbsup I hate to give Duke props, but they're really good. Who knows though, its Duke-UNC so anything can happen. I'm psyched!

[UNC41]

:thumbsup I hate to give Duke props, but they're really good. Who knows though, its Duke-UNC so anything can happen. I'm psyched!

Roy has called Ginyard the best high school defensive player he has ever seen, and I hope he lives up to that tomorrow and doesn't allow J.J. to go off. I'm not expecting to stop Redick, but keeping him in control would be nice.

[clayj41]

Roy has called Ginyard the best high school defensive player he has ever seen, and I hope he lives up to that tomorrow and doesn't allow J.J. to go off. I'm not expecting to stop Redick, but keeping him in control would be nice.

Yeah, I'd hate to see him go off for 40 or something.

[unccrombie]

i heart danny green

[UNLTrpt]

Waiting for the infamous poll to come up on ESPN again...

Because arguably the greatest rivalry in college sports is tomorrow. :D Im waiting for the UNC/Duke vs. Michigan/Ohio St. poll to arise on ESPN.com. They both always finish too close with Duke/UNC always coming out slightly on top.

Also curious to see if Tyler can hold his own on Shelden.

it's always seasonal. If it's during BB season, Duke/UNC will come out the winner, if it's during FB season it's Michigan/Ohio St. Ya can't really get a true read on which is the better rivalry. But...who would want to? They both have their great qualities and that's what makes em special.

[UNLTrpt]

Nebraska's season comes down to this week. vs. Kansas and @ Texas.

2-0: Hell freezes over and the sky is the limit for this team.
1-1: What I'm shootin for. We'll still be 2 games above .500 in the league and at least in the top 5. And people will start having to take notice of Nebraska as that 5th or 6th Big XII team.
0-2: Well if this happens we're .500 in the league and where they go from there is still a mystery.

[SteelerMan]

One thing that really concerns me in the Duke-UNC: blocked shots. In the game against Virginia, UNC tried to dominate on the inside, and Virginia ended up with TWELVE blocks. If Virginia can do that, I can't imagine what Shelden Williams could possibly end up doing. I think the Heels are going to have to play a great game from the perimeter to win tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if they put in Wes Miller and use screens to get him open for a lot of three pointers. I think Tyler will be fine tonight; the deciding factor will be how well the Heels shoot from the outside.

[UNC41]

One thing that really concerns me in the Duke-UNC: blocked shots. In the game against Virginia, UNC tried to dominate on the inside, and Virginia ended up with TWELVE blocks. If Virginia can do that, I can't imagine what Shelden Williams could possibly end up doing. I think the Heels are going to have to play a great game from the perimeter to win tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if they put in Wes Miller and use screens to get him open for a lot of three pointers. I think Tyler will be fine tonight; the deciding factor will be how well the Heels shoot from the outside.

Yeah, I really hope Sheldon doesn't single-handedly cause a repeat of the Virginia game. It'd be nice to get him into some early foul trouble. Wes Miller has been starting lately, so he'll get his opportunities to knock a couple down from deep. I read Jackie Manuel was at practice yesterday. Hopefully he showed the Heels how to keep Redick scoreless in a second half.

[SteelerMan]

That's funny... I was thinking last week that Ginyard reminded me a lot of Manuel. Great as a lockdown defender, yet also capable of hitting a clutch shot every now and then.

[RJ2kWJ]

I just hope it lives up to its normal battle expectations. :D

[UNC41]

Last year's heartbreaker for UNC fans is on at 4 p.m. central time. I'm excited to watch a game with last year's team, regardless of the outcome.

[RJ2kWJ]

Last year's heartbreaker for UNC fans is on at 4 p.m. central time. I'm excited to watch a game with last year's team, regardless of the outcome.

ESPN or ESPN classic or what?

[UNC41]

ESPN or ESPN classic or what?

Classic, my bad.

[UNLTrpt]

ESPN or ESPN classic or what?

ESPN OCHO!

no for real.

[RJ2kWJ]

ESPN OCHO!

no for real.

:lol ...I think the Dodgeball tourney is occupying that channel today.

Thanks Bryan, Ima throw that game on.

[UNC41]

Game is on now, my bad with the time.

[RJ2kWJ]

Game is on now, my bad with the time.

I forgot how bad ass this game was.

[nolan8or]

they carried this game locally last year....and as i think noel was losing the ball out of bounds at the last second they switched from the game to the news....couldnt tell what happened at the end.

i was furious

and what do you know, they blacked out espn around here so we have to watch it on the jefferson pilot channel...sweet

[SteelerMan]

I just hope nobody has to drive it to the basket in the final seconds to tie it up or take a lead... history shows that doesn't work too well against Duke.

[nolan8or]

i think duke will win tonight (and not just because I'm a duke fan), but I am worried about the shelden v. hansbrough match up. shelden has been getting in a little bit of foul trouble lately and assuming he will be guarding hansbrough he has to watch out for all those fakes....hansbrough gets a ton of calls down low when he either doesnt or barely gets touched...he also gets away with a lot of fouling on the defensive end

this will be interesting

[cityondown5]

i heart danny green

I hate Jay Bilas.

[haildmb]

D U K E

[nolan8or]

i bet dave likes duke and his favorite player is jj

[haildmb]

JJ is the fucking man

[haildmb]

i bet dave likes duke and his favorite player is jj

where in Gboro you live? I'm from there

[nolan8or]

i live in Northern Shores in the Lake Jeannette area

[nolan8or]

where in gboro are you from?

[unccrombie]

mmmm the anticipation is killing me. hope we have a good one tonight, nothing like the game 1 mishap (i think it was game 1) last year

[haildmb]

where in gboro are you from?

Northwest Guilford High area, Oak Ridge

[UNC41]

hansbrough gets a ton of calls down low when he either doesnt or barely gets touched...he also gets away with a lot of fouling on the defensive end

If by Hansbrough you meant Sheldon then I agree.

[UNC41]

mmmm the anticipation is killing me. hope we have a good one tonight, nothing like the game 1 mishap (i think it was game 1) last year

It was the first game last year. I just finished watching it on ESPN Classic. I'll give Redick credit, he recognized the play from against UConn the year before and knew where Rashad would be. Still, I wish Felton would have drove. He had been doing it with ease all game.

[RJ2kWJ]

D U K E

LETS GO DUKE! LETS GO DUKE! LETS GO DUKE!

Man I cant wait to get back to chanting for the rest of the home games. The 14th cant come fast enough. But tonight is here... better than any damn holiday out. :lol

[RJ2kWJ]

Man Im just hoping more than anything that Duke pulls this one out for my Dad. I just called the hospital and told them they better damn well put his TV on this game and they promised me they would. (He went into a coma for absolutely no reason Saturday night), but Id still appreciate if they through his TV on it. He is a Duke grad and is the main reason Ive always been such a huge Duke b-ball fan all my life.

GO DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE

[HolyCow]

What the F is Bruce Pearl wearing?

[dmbinchicago]

Let's Go De Vils.

clap clap clapclapclap

[haildmb]

Rip em up, tear em up, give em hell, DUKE!

[nolan8or]

Go To Hell Carolina Go To Hell

[clayj41]

Almost time!:multi

[onemoredrink41]

Uk really fucked this game up at the end again...

could they make a 3 no!

another loss for the cats. no surprise is it?

[HolyCow]

Uk really fucked this game up at the end again...

could they make a 3 no!

another loss for the cats. no surprise is it?

Duke wins this game by 15.

[UNLTrpt]

Halftime:

Baylor-43
Miz-zou-21

Right now:
Baylor-69
Miz-zohhhhhno-40

[HolyCow]

Halftime:

Baylor-43
Miz-zou-21

Right now:
Baylor-69
Miz-zohhhhhno-40

Mizzou needs to fire Quinn immediately after this game.

[nolan8or]

so i guess the refs decided before the game not to call any fouls on unc when duke drives

[UNLTrpt]

so i guess the refs decided before the game not to call any fouls on unc when duke drives

I'm a duke fan :lorraine we don't get any fouls :lorraine























:rolleyes

[HolyCow]

I'm a duke fan :lorraine we don't get any fouls :lorraine























:rolleyes

Amen.

Obviously I am neutral and I haven't noticed anything thus far.

[smeritt]

JJ straight up blows at UNC

[clayj41]

Good game thus far.

[unccrombie]

im not gonna lie, both teams looked a tad sloppy, and thats the only reason we're hangin around. miller and terry are keepin us in it. tyler has to get more involved and we're doin a good job on jj. im pretty pleased, could be better at stoppin the TOs though. we had like 3 back courts

[dmb1spe]

It pains me dearly to root for UNC. But I am.

[HolyCow]

wow. Lot of guts shown by UNC.

[RJ2kWJ]

a 21 point turn around? Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?

[dmbinchicago]

What a game. I've never seen a college kid hit as many big shots as Redick.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

They must have kyrptonite hidden somewhere inside UNC's gym.

[UNLTrpt]

JJ straight up blows at UNC

yeah he's not good at all when he plays at UNC




















30+ tonight. He blows.:rolleyes

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

game.
good job duke.

[unccrombie]

whoa, ginyard should be shot in the head at point blank. we had it

[RJ2kWJ]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad we are OUT of the Dean and the next one of course is at Cameron. Wow.

[unccrombie]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad we are OUT of the Dean and the next one of course is at Cameron. Wow.
i wouldnt feel to safe there either after tonight

[RJ2kWJ]

i wouldnt feel to safe there either after tonight

I definitely will. Wayyyyy more safe. We should never have blown the 17 point lead. Ill feel MUCH MUCH MUCH better at the next game. Hopefully capping off an undefeated ACC season. :D

[ousooner]

wow. Lot of guts shown by UNC.
Hey Royce, I'll need a full report on Bedlam tomorrow night. I have class from 5-9:45 and will miss the whole game. I hope we get over Sunday's fiasco in a hurry.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Mizzou needs to fire Quinn immediately after this game.

He's gone. The rumor on KC talk radio this morning was that if we lost tonight he was going to resign. I can't see any way that he sticks around. Another rumor is that Alden(MU AD) has talked with Majerus about coming on as a "consultant" for the rest of the season(no idea what that would entail). Both of those are just rumors but I think Snyder is packing his bags. I think the players realise that and have given up, it kind of reminds of CU football this year.

I just want to put the Quinn Snyder era behind us. He was never going to stick around Columbia. He was either going to come here and dominate and ascend to the throne in Durham or he was going to come here and not have success and move on to something else(sportscaster, NBA assistant, etc). Send him on his way, hire a new coach, see who sticks around, fill in the holes, and start fresh next fall.

just my .02,
Rob

[UNC41]

I definitely will. Wayyyyy more safe. We should never have blown the 17 point lead. Ill feel MUCH MUCH MUCH better at the next game. Hopefully capping off an undefeated ACC season. :D

Well the Dukies pulled it out in the end. It looked rough for a while, but ended up being a fantastic game. You've got to hand it to Redick. I can't stand him, but he came up big.

One thing I noticed tonight is this doesn't seem like a typical Coach K Duke team. Losing a 17-point lead, missing late free throws and turning the ball over like they did are things you just don't see out of Duke teams. Still, they ended up winning in the end because Redick took over.

[nolan8or]

JJ Redick.....Dy-No-Mite

what an amazing second half by the best player in college basketball

haha did anyone notice after one of his three he held up 3 fingers on each hand....which was also in the form of the shocker

tomorrow will be a glorious day at school

[ousooner]

Good win for Duke on the road. No shame in blowing the lead, they aren't supposed to win big at Carolina. I don't anticipate the game at Duke being as close.

[nolan8or]

yea i think the crazies will definately get in the heads of the young unc players

[ousooner]

Question for the board. What do you guys think is the toughest game in the country for a team to win. I think the toughest win is for the road team in the Duke-Carolina game. After that I think the toughest is for Oklahoma to go into Gallager-Iba in Stillwater and pull out a win. Other then Duke-Carolina, it has to be the most hostile environment in the country. Not nearly as difficult as it is for OState to win at OU. The combination of the hatred OSU has toward OU, the fans, and the environment make it nearly impossible. We have to be so much better then they are to win in Stillwater. Any opinions?

[clayj41]

Great game! Of course I didn't like the end result, but UNC never gave up and that's all I can ask.

[HolyCow]

Question for the board. What do you guys think is the toughest game in the country for a team to win. I think the toughest win is for the road team in the Duke-Carolina game. After that I think the toughest is for Oklahoma to go into Gallager-Iba in Stillwater and pull out a win. Other then Duke-Carolina, it has to be the most hostile environment in the country. Not nearly as difficult as it is for OState to win at OU. The combination of the hatred OSU has toward OU, the fans, and the environment make it nearly impossible. We have to be so much better then they are to win in Stillwater. Any opinions?

I of course am going to have to agree. O State fans can influence a game like nobody's business. I was in the LNC today for my usual duties and I was talking to the head men's manager and he was putting in a crowd noise CD for the men's practice. I asked him if they did that for KU and he said, "No. At KU they are just cheering their butts off for KU. At OSU they are cheering their butts off at YOU."


I will have a full fan's perspective report for you immediately following the game. I feel pretty good about the game personally. My forecast is a big lead that State wittles down but then we extend back out and win by 10 or so.

[smeritt]

yeah he's not good at all when he plays at UNC




















30+ tonight. He blows.:rolleyesI love how you make that comment after the game. Before that he was averaging like 15 points in 3 or 4 games at UNC and then he went without a basket for like 7 minutes. After that he blew up and was the same ole JJ. Typically he just does not play well there. Keep up the sarcastic comments though.

[SteelerMan]

Great game last night. I'm disappointed the Heels lost, but I really wasn't expecting them to win. Coming back from 17 down to take a 4 point lead is a moral victory in a way, and with a team this young, I think that's something they should look back at and be proud of. With that being said... what were they thinking in the final seconds??? You're down three with only seconds remaining... I don't care if you can't find a perfectly open shot, you MUST take a three. I guess Danny Green was hoping he'd get fouled when he attempted that half-assed runner. He played well most of the game though, so I'm not going to rag on him. I'm now convinced that JJ Redick is not human, but rather a demon blessed with shooting skills from Satan and sent to Earth to torment the hearts and minds of college basketball fans.

[gbs3769]

'Cuse at UConn tonight at 9:00pm. My roomates and I, as well as my girlfriend are headed to my parents house to watch the game. I don't think it's going to be pretty, but it's still fun to get together to watch the away games especially since we really haven't done that yet this year.

- Primo

[SteelerMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jones/060207

Here's a really good article about everyone hating JJ. Even Duke fans might enjoy it.

[RJ2kWJ]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jones/060207

Here's a really good article about everyone hating JJ. Even Duke fans might enjoy it.

I read this yesterday. Definitely worth a look. :thumbsup

[DMBfan41]

Couldn't watch the game last night, but very glad the Dukies got it

[nolan8or]

I read this yesterday. Definitely worth a look. :thumbsup

i read it too....this guy is right in saying that no one has any good reasons to hate jj

they only hate him because he's so good, white, and not on their team

[SteelerMan]

i read it too....this guy is right in saying that no one has any good reasons to hate jj

they only hate him because he's so good, white, and not on their team

Well then shouldn't everyone hate Adam Morrison just as much as JJ? People hate Redickhead because he's cocky, plays for Duke, and he's good.

[UNLTrpt]

I love how you make that comment after the game. Before that he was averaging like 15 points in 3 or 4 games at UNC and then he went without a basket for like 7 minutes. After that he blew up and was the same ole JJ. Typically he just does not play well there. Keep up the sarcastic comments though.

I like how you jump to conclusions. Just because he only had 13 points at the half doesn't mean he's not going to go off. According to you he averages "like 15 points in 3 or 4 games at UNC" but did you know that he has also averaged 28.4 points in 23 games this year? Which is more likely to continue, the like 15 point average over 3 or 4 years? Or his 28.4 point average this year? If you make a comment...make sure it comes true.

[HolyCow]

Quinn Snyder is gone.

Bout time.

[UNLTrpt]

a most important game for Nebraska today. A win means we are again in the mix for the NCAA tourney. A loss means that we still don't know what's going to happen. Kansas has always been a winnable game for us at home and this year more than ever. It will also show how much we've improved since the last KU meeting.

[UNLTrpt]

Quinn Snyder is gone.

Bout time.

link?

[HolyCow]

Another tough road game for the Sooners. We really need a win tonight.

[HolyCow]

link?

I heard it on the radio just now.

[UNLTrpt]

I heard it on the radio just now.

hmmm. Not a lot of CBB coaches are fired midseason. but...when you lose to a team that's playing it's 9th game...that might be incentive enough.

[rconverse]

Well then shouldn't everyone hate Adam Morrison just as much as JJ? People hate Redickhead because he's cocky, plays for Duke, and he's good.

I've never understood not liking a player because he is good.

[SteelerMan]

I've never understood not liking a player because he is good.

It's because he's good and plays for the most hated team in the country. Being good for a team few people care about doesn't make you hated (see Adam Morrison). His being good helps Duke win, people hate Duke, therefore people hate Redick for being good because it helps Duke win and they hate Duke. Makes sense.

[HolyCow]

hmmm. Not a lot of CBB coaches are fired midseason. but...when you lose to a team that's playing it's 9th game...that might be incentive enough.

I heard that he resigned.

EDIT: I may have heard the report wrong possibly....

[ousooner]

I've never understood not liking a player because he is good.
It's called hating. People love to hate.

[SteelerMan]

It's called hating. People love to hate.

He's Duke's best player... I'm a UNC fan... why wouldn't I hate Redick?

[unccrombie]

It's called hating. People love to hate.
i dont hate tom brady because he's good i hate him because he's a douchebag. i dont hate jj redick because he's good i hate him because he wears royal blue

aaaaaaaaaand by the communitive property that makes him a douchebag

[UNLTrpt]

I heard that he resigned.

EDIT: I may have heard the report wrong possibly....

I guess I just assumed he was fired.

[rconverse]

He's Duke's best player... I'm a UNC fan... why wouldn't I hate Redick?

I can understand UNC or MD fans not liking him for sure. Obviously that makes sense. But for the rest of the country not to like him doesn't. For example, I am a Cubs fan but I don't hate the Yankees or their players just because they are good.

[SteelerMan]

I can understand UNC or MD fans not liking him for sure. Obviously that makes sense. But for the rest of the country not to like him doesn't. For example, I am a Cubs fan but I don't hate the Yankees or their players just because they are good.

A lot more people hate Duke than just UNC and Maryland fans though. I can understand how anyone who hates Duke hates him. I'm a Phillies fan, yet I still hate the Yankees.

[smeritt]

Everyone hates a team that wins all the time, its that simple. Unless of course your a fan of the winning team. Then more likely than not your labeled a poser a bandwagon jumper. People who have losing teams are just bitter.

[DMBfan41]

i could understand hating Redick for the fact that he is good and that he's a Dukie.

But, the chanting and the signs and all that shit, that's just inappropriate. Hate him for the reasons I said.

[unccrombie]

i could understand hating Redick for the fact that he is good and that he's a Dukie.

But, the chanting and the signs and all that shit, that's just inappropriate. Hate him for the reasons I said.
chanting and teasing are apart of the game, what they said about his ster was too far though

[SteelerMan]

chanting and teasing are apart of the game, what they said about his ster was too far though

:thumbsup

I agree. The best was when they held up pictures of his face transposed on Shakespeare's body (I think it was at Wake Forest).

[SteelerMan]

But, the chanting and the signs and all that shit, that's just inappropriate. Hate him for the reasons I said.

Wouldn't you also consider Duke fans holding up Ed Cota mugshots inappopriate as well then?

[UNC41]

Wouldn't you also consider Duke fans holding up Ed Cota mugshots inappopriate as well then?

You sir, win. I'm not sure what, but you win for referencing my favorite collegiate basketball player ever. Ed Cota is and always will be the shit. If we still had rep points you'd get all of mine.

[rconverse]

Wouldn't you also consider Duke fans holding up Ed Cota mugshots inappopriate as well then?

Were they real mugshots? If so, that's pretty funny. I wouldn't think that is going too far (not that I would ever be so creative) because at least it is the picture of himself.

I can see the signs and chants, but I think there are some that go too far. If it is so important for a fan to get into a player's head by calling out a sister, mother, etc that is a sad fan and human being.

[RJ2kWJ]

chanting and teasing are apart of the game, what they said about his ster was too far though

Yup... a lot to do with the game when people hold up posters saying they F'ed his little sister.

[Third Floor]

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9216412

[SteelerMan]

You sir, win. I'm not sure what, but you win for referencing my favorite collegiate basketball player ever. Ed Cota is and always will be the shit. If we still had rep points you'd get all of mine.

:thumbsup

Awesome. Ed Cota and Raymond Felton are my two favorite college players of all-time (though it should be noted I've only been watching college basketball for about ten years). I loved watching them play. No offense to Bobby Frasor, but watching the Heels without a marquee point guard like these two just isn't the same.

[SteelerMan]

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9216412

This quote from Coach K in 1984 is sig worthy:

"I want to tell you something," he said. "... You cannot allow people to go around pointing at officials and yelling at them without technicals being called. That is just not allowed. So let's get some things straight around here and quit the double standard that exists in this league, all right?"

[rconverse]

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9216412

I was just about to post that link.

Gregg Doyell is seriously retarded. I am tired of this arguement all the time. It's funny that Georgetown isn't complaining about the officiating this year. The officials didn't influence the game against UNC, UNC just lost. Also going back to the BC v Duke game and the "non call" at the end. I was at that game and no one who I was sitting near complained that Sheldon Williams committed a foul. He was waiting under the basket and jumped straight up. How is that a foul?

[SteelerMan]

I was at that game and no one who I was sitting near complained that Sheldon Williams committed a foul. He was waiting under the basket and jumped straight up. How is that a foul?

Typically when you bump someone in the air while they're taking a shot, it's a foul. It really doesn't matter if you jump straight up or not, it matters whether your body bumps theirs.

[Third Floor]

I was just about to post that link.

Gregg Doyell is seriously retarded. I am tired of this arguement all the time. It's funny that Georgetown isn't complaining about the officiating this year. The officials didn't influence the game against UNC, UNC just lost. Also going back to the BC v Duke game and the "non call" at the end. I was at that game and no one who I was sitting near complained that Sheldon Williams committed a foul. He was waiting under the basket and jumped straight up. How is that a foul?
yeah, the officials didnt influence the game at UNC because the officiating group from the FSU v Duke game right before that were suspended due to bad calls. honestly, duke fans just accept the fact that your team gets the calls. stop trying to argue that duke refs are a myth.

[rconverse]

yeah, the officials didnt influence the game at UNC because the officiating group from the FSU v Duke game right before that were suspended due to bad calls. honestly, duke fans just accept the fact that your team gets the calls. stop trying to argue that duke refs are a myth.

Yeah, Duke doesn't win on talent or coaching it is always the calls. Just come out and beat Duke. Quit whining like little bitches about calls. UNC was up five and choked. The UNC game has nothing to do with the FSU game. Everyone acts as if FSU was guarenteed victory if that guy wouldn't have fouled out. Granted, it was a bad call. Watch any basketball game at any level and you will see about 5 - 10 bad calls per game against each team.

[Third Floor]

youre the best joke on this website.

the refs make adifference in games, you cant deny it. coach k whined about when they all went UNC way, now that theyre in his pocket, duke fans have completely stopped whining about it. just give up.

[ousooner]

I was just about to post that link.

Gregg Doyell is seriously retarded. I am tired of this arguement all the time. It's funny that Georgetown isn't complaining about the officiating this year. The officials didn't influence the game against UNC, UNC just lost. Also going back to the BC v Duke game and the "non call" at the end. I was at that game and no one who I was sitting near complained that Sheldon Williams committed a foul. He was waiting under the basket and jumped straight up. How is that a foul?
Are you serious?