Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[ousooner]

Yes. A defender has the right to that space.

Am I the only one on this thread that actually played college basketball at any level (DI, DII or DIII)?
I'm not denying the rule, that's just not what I saw. I don't think that's what most people saw.

[rconverse]

youre the best joke on this website.

the refs make adifference in games, you cant deny it. coach k whined about when they all went UNC way, now that theyre in his pocket, duke fans have completely stopped whining about it. just give up.

FT stats from last night's game:

Duke: 19-24
UNC: 23-29

You're right. Duke must have gotten ALL the calls.

How about another random game. Let's see....Wake V. Duke:

FT stats from January 8, 2006:

Duke: 12-14
Wake: 12-16

Again, I can see where the officials were the culprits behind Wake's embarrassing loss at home.

[Third Floor]

did you even read what i posted? i said the unc duke game was called fair BECAUSE THE REFS FROM THE DUKE FSU GAME WERE SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF BAD CALLS. is that really that hard to understand.

let me make it easier for you.

did you even read what i posted? i said the unc duke game was called fair BECAUSE THE REFS FROM THE DUKE FSU GAME WERE SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF BAD CALLS. is that really that hard to understand.

so please give me more stats about games that i said were officiated faily to prove the lack of a duke bias.

i repeat, you the biggest joke on this site.

[ousooner]

FT stats from last night's game:

Duke: 19-24
UNC: 23-29

You're right. Duke must have gotten ALL the calls.

How about another random game. Let's see....Wake V. Duke:

FT stats from January 8, 2006:

Duke: 12-14
Wake: 12-16

Again, I can see where the officials were the culprits behind Wake's embarrassing loss at home.
It's not necessarily the number of free throws attempted, it's about getting key calls at critical times during a game.

[clayj41]

:thumbsup

Awesome. Ed Cota and Raymond Felton are my two favorite college players of all-time (though it should be noted I've only been watching college basketball for about ten years). I loved watching them play. No offense to Bobby Frasor, but watching the Heels without a marquee point guard like these two just isn't the same.

I loved them both as well. I think my all-time favorite Tar Heel is Jamison though. We was so money when he was in college. I also liked Joseph Forte, but he made a major mistake by going pro much too early.

[rconverse]

did you even read what i posted? i said the unc duke game was called fair BECAUSE THE REFS FROM THE DUKE FSU GAME WERE SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF BAD CALLS. is that really that hard to understand.

let me make it easier for you.

so please give me more stats about games that i said were officiated faily to prove the lack of a duke bias.

i repeat, you the biggest joke on this site.

Ohhhh. Did I strike a chord with the Wake reference. If you were next to me, I would hand you some tissue.

You're saying that Duke gets all the calls and that it is not a myth. I just provided two games where Duke's opponent shot more free throws than them. (One prior to the FSU fiascal.) Mathmatically, that would indicate that the other team received more calls (unless all fouls were shooting fouls and not due to the bonus). I don't think I can make that easier for you. Honestly, you can continue to call me a joke if you like, but that doesn't bother me. It is obvious you hate Duke so no matter what I say or how many stats I can show you to prove your theory false, you won't agree.

[Third Floor]

youre a joke. honestly i cant understand how a duke fan cant see the bias in the refs in the ACC. of course, the bias was obvious to them when it was pro-UNC. but now theres no bias, its all talent and coaching. duke can win everything anytime they want, the refs dont help in the least.

[rconverse]

It's not necessarily the number of free throws attempted, it's about getting key calls at critical times during a game.

I don't know. I think Duke got hosed in 2003 against UCONN. All the same though, Duke was up ten with about 2.5 minutes to go and choked. Whether or not Reddick got fouled driving is pretty immaterial considering that Duke was winning all game and lost. Duke had a ton of other chances throughout that game. They didn't lose the game because of one or two bad calls or non-calls late in the game.

[rconverse]

youre a joke. honestly i cant understand how a duke fan cant see the bias in the refs in the ACC. of course, the bias was obvious to them when it was pro-UNC. but now theres no bias, its all talent and coaching. duke can win everything anytime they want, the refs dont help in the least.


I do not think that the refs come to the game looking to screw another team or give Duke an unfair advantage. FYI - I never thought there was a bias towards UNC from the refs.

[Third Floor]

memphis game
mem-7-13 duke- 15-25

state
state-10-16 duke- 18-26

fsu
fsu-10-11 duke-31-43

duke unc- 2 years ago
duke-22-26 unc- 12-17

and my favorite-
bu-2-4 duke 17-26
look multiple examples from multiple years, mathematically that would indicate that theduke received more calls (unless all fouls were shooting fouls and not due to the bonus). notice how that doesnt work.

[RJ2kWJ]

The classic debate :lol

[Third Floor]

im not saying that the refs are looking to help duke before theyre going to the game, and thats not what the article says either. just because its not intentional doesnt mean its not there though. but theres obvioulsy a bias towards duke in the refereeing. theres complaints about it every year from fans, coaches, and the media. other ACC coaches complain that if they say anything close to what k says theyd be thrown out. the reason that this year is different is that the media is giving the usual horrible pro duke officiating attention without anyone complaining.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Quinn Snyder is gone.

Bout time.

You must have mis heard. If it was known in OK at noon then I would assume it would have made it onto ESPN/CNNSI/CBS websites or at the very least the StL Post-Disgrace/KC Star/Columbia papers websites. I looked at all of those places and they didnt have any write ups about it. At the same time it is a foregone conclusion that he is done whether he resigns or is eventually fired, it's time for both parties to move on.

just my .02

[Third Floor]

The classic debate :lol

with the classic duke fan responses, laugh and call it a myth.

[RJ2kWJ]

with the classic duke fan responses, laugh and call it a myth.

I didnt call it a myth. I dont notice it but maybe its there who knows. I honestly could give a rats ass either way. If it was blatant then I would say we win games the wrong way but I havent seen anything blatant minus the FSU game. But even if it is there, there is no way to prove it. There are bad calls every game everywhere.

[rconverse]

and my favorite-
bu-2-4 duke 17-26
look multiple examples from multiple years, mathematically that would indicate that theduke received more calls (unless all fouls were shooting fouls and not due to the bonus). notice how that doesnt work.

Who the heck is BU? Butler? If so, you can't really throw that in with the rest of those games.

Obviously the FSU game stands out. Unfortunately, the game was not on TV in my area, so I can't comment on the calls throughout that game. Based on replays of the double technical, I have already stated that was a bad call. In regards to the other games, the differences are not large. I would expect the better team to shoot more free throws no matter who is playing. In the rest of those games, Duke is clearly a better team this year.

[HolyCow]

Yes. A defender has the right to that space.

Am I the only one on this thread that actually played college basketball at any level (DI, DII or DIII)?pppph. Like that means something.

You are almost as bad as good ol' Live 1966! in the college football thread.

A foul is a foul and there is no one in the country that is trying to defend that it wasn't. Even Dookie V knows it was a foul.

[Third Floor]

you didnt, rconverse has though. hell youre the first duke fan that didnt straight out call it a myth.
its there and its pretty blatant in my opinion, just like jordan got special treatment from the refs in the nba. hell wake got the calls last year when we were in the top 5, im not gonna deny it. but nothings going to change unless the ACC refs get punished for it (see FSU game refs).

[Third Floor]

Who the heck is BU? Butler? If so, you can't really throw that in with the rest of those games.

Obviously the FSU game stands out. Unfortunately, the game was not on TV in my area, so I can't comment on the calls throughout that game. Based on replays of the double technical, I have already stated that was a bad call. In regards to the other games, the differences are not large. I would expect the better team to shoot more free throws no matter who is playing. In the rest of those games, Duke is clearly a better team this year.
Boston University.

so wake was the better team in the wake duke game?
quit rationalizing it.

[HolyCow]

You must have mis heard. If it was known in OK at noon then I would assume it would have made it onto ESPN/CNNSI/CBS websites or at the very least the StL Post-Disgrace/KC Star/Columbia papers websites. I looked at all of those places and they didnt have any write ups about it. At the same time it is a foregone conclusion that he is done whether he resigns or is eventually fired, it's time for both parties to move on.

just my .02

I think the people on the radio were saying, "yeah, he's gone," and I took it as he was really gone. My bad guys.

[rconverse]

pppph. Like that means something.

You are almost as bad as good ol' Live 1966! in the college football thread.

A foul is a foul and there is no one in the country that is trying to defend that it wasn't. Even Dookie V knows it was a foul.

First off, as I said earlier, I didn't even know there was a controversy about that call until Friday morning. All I said was that I was at that game and none of the BC fans that were sitting all around me complained that there was no call. Maybe SW did foul him, I haven't seen a replay. But if a defender jumps straight up and an offensive player jumps into him, that is not a foul. That is all I am trying to convey.

[RJ2kWJ]

you didnt, rconverse has though. hell youre the first duke fan that didnt straight out call it a myth.
its there and its pretty blatant in my opinion, just like jordan got special treatment from the refs in the nba. hell wake got the calls last year when we were in the top 5, im not gonna deny it. but nothings going to change unless the ACC refs get punished for it (see FSU game refs).

Alright I know its out there... different teams every year, and some become repetative. I dunno which we are. I know the calls come our way sometimes.

Id like to see all that mess leave... Even if it did we'd still be mollywhomping teams left and right and headed to the natty title. :lol

[rconverse]

Boston University.

so wake was the better team in the wake duke game?
quit rationalizing it.

I wouldn't count BU as a true game. (Although they played very well against Duke this year.) Duke's non-conference schedule is a joke. I would like to see Duke schedule better non-conference games.

I'll agree with you. Duke gets preferential treatment and that is why they win games.

Discussion over.

[Third Floor]

I wouldn't count BU as a true game. (Although they played very well against Duke this year.) Duke's non-conference schedule is a joke. I would like to see Duke schedule better non-conference games.

I'll agree with you. Duke gets preferential treatment and that is why they win games.

Discussion over.
and now the sarcastic agreement to end the discussion. i was waiting for this one. duke fans are so predictable.

[haildmb]

ahhh fun times

Anyone who seriously, SERIOUSLY, believes the theory that Duke gets all the calls is a fool. But if you like being foolish, that's cool, I just figured you should know (yes, Lee, this means you too).

It will always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS seem as though teams that win a lot get more calls. You know why? Cause they won. No one remembers the officiation when their team wins. There's no reason to. They only pay attention when their team loses, and instead of just accepting that, they piss and moan like an impotent bitch (or a carolina fan, same difference) that the other team "got all the calls." I'm in the DC area, I don't hear a whole lot of Georgetown fans screaming "you know that Duke just gets ALL the calls." You know why? Cause they won. They don't even say "Duke got all the calls and we still won!" You know why? Cause Duke does not get all the calls. This same kind of stupidity was said about carolina back in the day when they won all the time, and I'm sure it'll be said about the next team who dominates a decade the way Duke did. When it comes down to it, it's because people are stupid. And stupid people say stupid things. And there are enough stupid people who follow sports to give a pretty big voice to some pretty stupid thoughts.

[haildmb]

Duke's non-conference schedule is a joke. I would like to see Duke schedule better non-conference games.

At the risk of taking this discussion away from the fun topic of Duke refs...

Are you serious? Are you on crack? Texas, Memphis, Indiana? Not to mention a Georgetown team who turned out to be pretty good and a dangerous Bucknell team (albeit that was at Duke). Duke's smart with their scheduling (of course it helps they have the liberty of pretty much dictating how things go, because they're Duke). They schedule in such a way as to prepare for the NCAA tournament. Sure they'll never play a temple-esque schedule, and they'd be stupid if they did.

[seekupig]

haven't been around in a few days, my computers jacked up. suprised to see OU fans complaining about the refs as much as they are though. refs don't blow a 16 point lead, players do.

rock, chalk, jayhawk. :multi

[cityondown5]

At the risk of taking this discussion away from the fun topic of Duke refs...

Are you serious? Are you on crack? Texas, Memphis, Indiana? Not to mention a Georgetown team who turned out to be pretty good and a dangerous Bucknell team (albeit that was at Duke). Duke's smart with their scheduling (of course it helps they have the liberty of pretty much dictating how things go, because they're Duke). They schedule in such a way as to prepare for the NCAA tournament. Sure they'll never play a temple-esque schedule, and they'd be stupid if they did.

Didn't most people know they were going to be dangerous going into the season?

[haildmb]

Didn't most people know they were going to be dangerous going into the season?


I thought so, but they still didn't get much pub until recently

[HolyCow]

haven't been around in a few days, my computers jacked up. suprised to see OU fans complaining about the refs as much as they are though. refs don't blow a 16 point lead, players do.

rock, chalk, jayhawk. :multi

:thumbsdow

[HolyCow]

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Sucks!


Ooooooooo.....ssssssssss.....uuuuuuuuuu



Sucks!



Boomer!
Sooner!
Go!
OU!

[clayj41]

...and IU continues to disappoint.

[RJ2kWJ]

There are a couple of good battles goin on right now for sure.

[RJ2kWJ]

Florida loses again. I knew this squad was overated from the get go.

[clayj41]

Florida loses again. I knew this squad was overated from the get go.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[haildmb]

cardiac pack strikes again. Boy am I sick of these close games but State is battle tested. We've just about got 2nd place in the ACC wrapped up; I still think this team is going deep in the NCAA tourny

[HolyCow]

This is the touchiest basketball game I have ever seen.

[ousooner]

This is the touchiest basketball game I have ever seen.
I got home for the last 8 minutes of the game. How have we played?

Edit: Isn't sick how we've lost 3 conference game by a total of 4 points all to inferior teams? We should be moving to 8-0 tonight.

[Third Floor]

ahhh fun times

Anyone who seriously, SERIOUSLY, believes the theory that Duke gets all the calls is a fool. But if you like being foolish, that's cool, I just figured you should know (yes, Lee, this means you too).

It will always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS seem as though teams that win a lot get more calls. You know why? Cause they won. No one remembers the officiation when their team wins. There's no reason to. They only pay attention when their team loses, and instead of just accepting that, they piss and moan like an impotent bitch (or a carolina fan, same difference) that the other team "got all the calls." I'm in the DC area, I don't hear a whole lot of Georgetown fans screaming "you know that Duke just gets ALL the calls." You know why? Cause they won. They don't even say "Duke got all the calls and we still won!" You know why? Cause Duke does not get all the calls. This same kind of stupidity was said about carolina back in the day when they won all the time, and I'm sure it'll be said about the next team who dominates a decade the way Duke did. When it comes down to it, it's because people are stupid. And stupid people say stupid things. And there are enough stupid people who follow sports to give a pretty big voice to some pretty stupid thoughts.

id believe you, except your a duke man.
duke may not get all the calls, but they sure as hell get a lot of them. anyone who seriously, SERIOUSLY believes that is a fool, and a duke fan (but now im being redundant)

[UNLTrpt]

oye crap.

[HolyCow]

I got home for the last 8 minutes of the game. How have we played?

Edit: Isn't sick how we've lost 3 conference game by a total of 4 points all to inferior teams? We should be moving to 8-0 tonight.

Defensively? Awesome.

Spurts on offense. Taylor Griffen has played huge off the bench. Taj has been non-existent.

OSU's crowd has barely been heard. OSU sucks.

[ousooner]

haven't been around in a few days, my computers jacked up. suprised to see OU fans complaining about the refs as much as they are though. refs don't blow a 16 point lead, players do.

rock, chalk, jayhawk. :multi
Come on man, you don't really believe that's all there was to it Sunday do you?

[HolyCow]

Sucks when you are up 15 with 3:40 left and you still have to be nervous.

I love the way we have played tonight. We have done every little thing right, made big shots, got a few fast breaks. It hasn't been the most beautiful thing in the world, but it is a perfect recipe to win at Gallegher-Iba.

[ousooner]

Damn, why can't Michael Neal stay healthy?

[HolyCow]

Damn, why can't Michael Neal stay healthy?

I know.:lorraine

Austin Johnson is ridiculous. Take care of the freakin ball and make good decisions.

[DMBfan41]

So. CBS.Sportsline new projection for the tournament has FDU vs Grambling in the opening-round game. The winner of that game would face Duke and then the winner of that would face the winner of Alabama and Seton Hall.

So, Duke, Seton Hall, and FDU, my three teams could be all packed right together. That would really suck

[ousooner]

I know.:lorraine

Austin Johnson is ridiculous. Take care of the freakin ball and make good decisions.
Yeah, I couldn't hardly watch the Kansas game when he had the ball. I thought he was going to lose it every time.

[RJ2kWJ]

id believe you, except your a duke man.
duke may not get all the calls, but they sure as hell get a lot of them. anyone who seriously, SERIOUSLY believes that is a fool, and a duke fan (but now im being redundant)

The thing is people that hate Duke hold just as much ground on the argument as a Duke fan. It evens out.

[ousooner]

oye crap.
Wow, tough loss tonight. I expected a much closer game.

[HolyCow]

Dang it. Here we freakin go again.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

EDIT: You see all the empty seats in the Iba? Great fans, are they?

[HolyCow]

Well, it looks like a nice dub in Stillyville.

I like it. 6-3 in conference with 3 winnable games coming up.

[ousooner]

Well, it looks like a nice dub in Stillyville.

I like it. 6-3 in conference with 3 winnable games coming up.
:thumbsup Good win!

[UNLTrpt]

Wow, tough loss tonight. I expected a much closer game.

yeah so did a lot more people around here.

It was pretty much 8-12 the whole game. We kinda gave up in the last 7 mins.

[chiznaz]

Tonight was a good win for the Ags. We've got OSU coming up on Sat. This has been a big test week, so I imagine there will be a big turnout of people looking to do something other than studying. Everyone is wearing a white T-Shirt, and hopefuly we'll beat the hell out of the Cowboys.

[UNLTrpt]

beat the hell out of the Cowboys.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


that's how it goes right?

I've been to one Aggie yell practice. It was in Lincoln, NE but it was aggie yell practice

[chiznaz]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


that's how it goes right?

I've been to one Aggie yell practice. It was in Lincoln, NE but it was aggie yell practice

lol.... it's "Whoop!" almost had it there;)

That's badass that you went to the one in Lincoln. I've yet to go to one outside of College Station, and I don't go that often anymore:(

Anyways.... back to studying. I've got a bitch of a test coming up Fri morning for a Business Law class. When that's done with, my old man should just be getting in town here for the weekend. We're catching the baseball game and the OSU game on Sat. Hopefully we'll have good reason to celebrate by the end of the day! Whoop!

[UNLTrpt]

lol.... it's "Whoop!" almost had it there;)

That's badass that you went to the one in Lincoln. I've yet to go to one outside of College Station, and I don't go that often anymore:(

Anyways.... back to studying. I've got a bitch of a test coming up Fri morning for a Business Law class. When that's done with, my old man should just be getting in town here for the weekend. We're catching the baseball game and the OSU game on Sat. Hopefully we'll have good reason to celebrate by the end of the day! Whoop!

We made fun of em. (hey, they were in town for a football game) we were all in the back kinda following along and we were all like "BEND OVER!" It was pretty damn funny but shit...there had to have been 300-400 people there, maybe more (it was 6 years ago) but it was something that I was glad I witnessed.

[haildmb]

The thing is people that hate Duke hold just as much ground on the argument as a Duke fan. It evens out.


when you're talking about a fairly objective Duke fan, and a fairly incendiary duke hater, it doesn't even out anymore

[rconverse]

At the risk of taking this discussion away from the fun topic of Duke refs...

Are you serious? Are you on crack? Texas, Memphis, Indiana? Not to mention a Georgetown team who turned out to be pretty good and a dangerous Bucknell team (albeit that was at Duke). Duke's smart with their scheduling (of course it helps they have the liberty of pretty much dictating how things go, because they're Duke). They schedule in such a way as to prepare for the NCAA tournament. Sure they'll never play a temple-esque schedule, and they'd be stupid if they did.

Yes, I was serious. No, I am not on crack. I think first and foremost I would like to play more true road games. The Texas and Memphis games were at a "neutral" site. Duke does not play a ton of tough non-conference games on the road. Yes, Indy was tough on the road, but also sort of a "pick of the draw" with the whole Big Ten - ACC challenge. I thought there first tough road test (which I didn't expect to be so tough) was Georgetown. I thought the BC game was a big win for Duke, because that place was rocking and the students are practically on the court. Certainly winning at UNC doesn't hurt either. But, you can still see where some players get tight towards the end of games on the road. I would be just as happy with the team's season thus far if they were 22 - 4 with losses at Memphis, Texas, maybe a UCONN, Kentucky (although they are pretty bad this year) etc. Especially considering the disparity between the freshman and seniors. I think that the sooner the freshman get acclimated to playing in hostile arenas, the better they will be at tourney time when it counts.

[HolyCow]

Yes, I was serious. No, I am not on crack. I think first and foremost I would like to play more true road games. The Texas and Memphis games were at a "neutral" site. Duke does not play a ton of tough non-conference games on the road. Yes, Indy was tough on the road, but also sort of a "pick of the draw" with the whole Big Ten - ACC challenge. I thought there first tough road test (which I didn't expect to be so tough) was Georgetown. I thought the BC game was a big win for Duke, because that place was rocking and the students are practically on the court. Certainly winning at UNC doesn't hurt either. But, you can still see where some players get tight towards the end of games on the road. I would be just as happy with the team's season thus far if they were 22 - 4 with losses at Memphis, Texas, maybe a UCONN, Kentucky (although they are pretty bad this year) etc. Especially considering the disparity between the freshman and seniors. I think that the sooner the freshman get acclimated to playing in hostile arenas, the better they will be at tourney time when it counts.

You're a psycho. Duke's non-conference schedule was better than 75% of all teams.

[rconverse]

You're a psycho. Duke's non-conference schedule was better than 75% of all teams.

That may be. I guess I do not consider a team like Valpo a quality opponent (who I believe they played the past two years both at Cameron). I know they have played some tough teams this year, but not tough games on the road. I would expect one of the best teams in the country to have a tough schedule. If they don't, how would they improve?

[HolyCow]

That may be. I guess I do not consider a team like Valpo a quality opponent (who I believe they played the past two years both at Cameron). I know they have played some tough teams this year, but not tough games on the road. I would expect one of the best teams in the country to have a tough schedule. If they don't, how would they improve?

How long have you followed college basketball?

Most teams, check that, ALL teams schedule 3 or 4 solid non-conference foes and one, maybe two tough games on the road.

Memphis @ Madison Square Garden
Indiana @ Bloomington
Texas @ East Rutherford
Georgetown @ Georgetown

Tough schedule just by those games.

[chiznaz]

You two should take a look at A&M's non-confrence schedule and then get back to me about tough non-confrence games;)

Arkansas Tech X @College Station
Texas A&M-Commerce X @College Station
Southern @College Station
Mississippi Valley State @College Station
Tulane @College Station
Penn State @College Station
North Texas @College Station
Grambling State @College Station
Savannah State @College Station
Auburn @College Station
Texas Southern @College Station
Northwestern State @College Station
@ Pacific Stockton, Calif.



home games are in bold

[HolyCow]

You two should take a look at A&M's non-confrence schedule and then get back to me about tough non-confrence games;)

Arkansas Tech X @College Station
Texas A&M-Commerce X @College Station
Southern @College Station
Mississippi Valley State @College Station
Tulane @College Station
Penn State @College Station
North Texas @College Station
Grambling State @College Station
Savannah State @College Station
Auburn @College Station
Texas Southern @College Station
Northwestern State @College Station
@ Pacific Stockton, Calif.



home games are in bold


:lol

[ousooner]

You two should take a look at A&M's non-confrence schedule and then get back to me about tough non-confrence games;)

Arkansas Tech X @College Station
Texas A&M-Commerce X @College Station
Southern @College Station
Mississippi Valley State @College Station
Tulane @College Station
Penn State @College Station
North Texas @College Station
Grambling State @College Station
Savannah State @College Station
Auburn @College Station
Texas Southern @College Station
Northwestern State @College Station
@ Pacific Stockton, Calif.



home games are in bold
Looks like Gillespie is taking Bill Snyders approach to building a program. It's really not a bad approach when you're trying to come from where A&M was. If you continue to have losing seasons you'll never get the players you need.

[HolyCow]

Ok, so if the tournament was going on right now, who would be your elite eight?

I am going with:
Duke
UCONN
George Washington
Oklahoma
Texas
Michigan St.
Villanova
West Virginia

[ousooner]

Connecticut
Duke
Texas
West Virginia
Villanova
Gonzaga
Michigan St.
Oklahoma

Yeah, I know this is a homer pick, but with their defense and rebounding they will be tough to beat. And even though I think Digger Phelps is an idiot, he did list OU as one of his three teams that UConn would not want to see in the tournament.

[HolyCow]

Connecticut
Duke
Texas
West Virginia
Villanova
Gonzaga
Michigan St.
Oklahoma

Yeah, I know this is a homer pick, but with their defense and rebounding they will be tough to beat. And even though I think Digger Phelps is an idiot, he did list OU as one of his three teams that UConn would not want to see in the tournament.

:thumbsup

Exactly my thought. One 4 or 5 seed is going to make a run and I see no reason why it can't be OU. They have all the intangibles to be successful in the tourney.

[UNC41]

UConn
Duke
Nova
Texas
Memphis
West Virginia
Michigan State
Iowa

[chiznaz]

Looks like Gillespie is taking Bill Snyders approach to building a program. It's really not a bad approach when you're trying to come from where A&M was. If you continue to have losing seasons you'll never get the players you need.

A&M basketball was similar to how the Tigers were/are in the MLB.

I agree with the approach he took. It's working and our team sure looks promising

[SteelerMan]

Connecticut
Duke
Memphis
Villanova
Texas
Pittsburgh
Tennessee
Northern Iowa

[rconverse]

How long have you followed college basketball?

Most teams, check that, ALL teams schedule 3 or 4 solid non-conference foes and one, maybe two tough games on the road.

Memphis @ Madison Square Garden
Indiana @ Bloomington
Texas @ East Rutherford
Georgetown @ Georgetown

Tough schedule just by those games.

I don't think Memphis was scheduled. They met in the NIT finale. And again, Texas wasn't a road game. I would agree that their non-conference shedule was more difficult if either the Texas or Memphis games were played at Texas or Memphis.

[twosteppn36]

How long have you followed college basketball?

Most teams, check that, ALL teams schedule 3 or 4 solid non-conference foes and one, maybe two tough games on the road.

ill have to disagree with you on that

[gbs3769]

ill have to disagree with you on that
Yup. All Syracuse fans know that isn't true.

- Primo

[rconverse]

Connecticut
Duke
Memphis
Villanova
Texas
Pittsburgh
Tennessee
Northern Iowa

:thumbsup Nice. I don't think they'll make it, but I like the pick.

Duke
Memphis
Villanova
Pittsburgh
Ohio State
Michigan State
UConn
(Super Sleeper) Southern Illinois

[SteelerMan]

:thumbsup Nice. I don't think they'll make it, but I like the pick.

Yeah, I know there will be at least one team that nobody expects, and Northern Iowa has already proven they can compete with tournament level teams.

[HolyCow]

UConn
Duke
Nova
Texas
Memphis
West Virginia
Michigan State
Iowa
That's a bold pick (pardon the pun). I could see them being the West Virginia of last year.

[DMBfan41]

I'm gonna go with how ESPN Bracketology is set up.

So i'm going with

Duke
Michigan St.
UConn
Marquette
West Virginia
Villanova
Boston College
Illinois

[jermtheworm]

Memphis
Mich St
Gonzaga
UCLA
Duke
Texas
Wichita St. (sleeper pick)

[DMBfan41]

Here's your Final Four

Atlanta - (1) Duke
Oakland - (16) FDU
Wash DC - (1) UConn
Minneapolis - (8) Seton Hall

[jermtheworm]

Can't believe I left WVU off the list, their style of play is great for the Tourny. I can't wait, I've got March 16 & 17 off to get an early round of golf in then hit the bar for b-ball all day.

[unccrombie]

iupui anyone...

[jermtheworm]

iupui anyone...

why not, through Bucknell in too.:D

[seekupig]

Edit: Isn't sick how we've lost 3 conference game by a total of 4 points all to inferior teams? We should be moving to 8-0 tonight.

hmmm.....:D

[ousooner]

hmmm.....:D
I figured that would get your attention. KU is by far the most improved team in the country and getting better every game, but I think they are still only the third best team in the conference.

[seekupig]

I figured that would get your attention. KU is by far the most improved team in the country and getting better every game, but I think they are still only the third best team in the conference.

i won't argue that. OU is better, KU has more potential. makes it a tough game to pick when you never know what you're going to get out of young players.

[seekupig]

UNC @ Miami on Sunday. big game for both teams....

[SteelerMan]

UNC @ Miami on Sunday. big game for both teams....

I think UNC is in good shape to make the tourney. I think talent wise, they're the third best team in the ACC (behind Duke and BC... I'm not sold on NC State or Miami). The rest of their schedule is as follows:

@ Miami
vs. Georgia Tech
@ NC State
vs. Maryland
vs. Virginia
@ Duke

If they can win four of those six (which I think is very possible), they'll be 18-8 and 9-6 in the conference, which I think will get them in regardless of how they do in the ACC tournament.

[seekupig]

I think UNC is in good shape to make the tourney. I think talent wise, they're the third best team in the ACC (behind Duke and BC... I'm not sold on NC State or Miami). The rest of their schedule is as follows:



i think UNC is more talented than NC State, but i think State is better right now. it's similar to the KU/Oklahoma argument.

[unccrombie]

i think unc is a more dangerous vermont ala last year

[SteelerMan]

i think unc is a more dangerous vermont ala last year

Are you saying Taylor Coppenrath = Tyler Hansbrough? I can see the comparison, but Tyler has a much, much better supporting cast.

[Third Floor]

snyder steps down- officially

[UNLTrpt]

snyder steps down- officially

no real surprise. We could have a bit of turnover this year in the Big 12.

[chiznaz]

snyder steps down- officially

The Melvin Watkins plague is spreading!:lol That guy is a death wish to any team.

Mizzou is now worse off than they were with Snyder.

[haildmb]

NC State will be in the elite 8

[smeritt]

Are you saying Taylor Coppenrath = Tyler Hansbrough? I can see the comparison, but Tyler has a much, much better supporting cast.Tyler also has a much more proven coach

[ousooner]

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/6916380/detail.html?treets=okl&tml=okl_break&ts=T&tmi=okl_break_1_06550202102006

OSU Head Coach Eddie Sutton In Good Condition After Wreck

POSTED: 6:47 pm CST February 10, 2006
UPDATED: 7:45 pm CST February 10, 2006

STILLWATER, Okla. -- Oklahoma State head basketball coach Eddie Sutton is in good condition after a car accident in Stillwater on Friday night, sources have confirmed.

According to a report from an emergency worker, Sutton incurred a cut above his eye and was semiconscious at the time the worker cared for the Cowboys' coach. A call for a LifeFlight helicopter was eventually canceled; however, Sutton was taken to the emergency room at an area hospital.

Officials said the accident was a two-car wreck on the north side of Stillwater at Washington Street and Lakeshore Drive, next to Boomer Lake Park and the airport. Paramedics confirmed Eddie was driving one of the vehicles.


First reports said he was unresponsive and had severe head trauma, so this is great news.

[chiznaz]

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/6916380/detail.html?treets=okl&tml=okl_break&ts=T&tmi=okl_break_1_06550202102006



First reports said he was unresponsive and had severe head trauma, so this is great news.

wow! that's something you definitely don't want to hear. Glad he seems to be okay. I hope he is able to make it up to the game here tomorrow, but I doubt it. I bet they'll make an annoucement at the game.

[ousooner]

wow! that's something you definitely don't want to hear. Glad he seems to be okay. I hope he is able to make it up to the game here tomorrow, but I doubt it. I bet they'll make an annoucement at the game.
Yeah, my Dad said the local news broke in during a show and that's what they said. When you hear something like that it really gets your attention and all of a sudden the rivalry doesn't mean so much.

[DMBfan41]

Big gameday today!

Iowa/Indiana
Duke/Maryland
UCLA/Washington
UConn/Seton Hall
Stanford/Gonzaga

woo, I love saturdays!

[seekupig]

Big gameday today!

Iowa/Indiana
Duke/Maryland
UCLA/Washington
UConn/Seton Hall
Stanford/Gonzaga

woo, I love saturdays!

you forgot Iowa St. @ Kansas. ;) :D

[cityondown5]

Anyone seeing this Purdue/Michigan game? Hahahaha fuckin Wolverines.

[DMBfan41]

Let's Go Duke!

[DMBfan41]

Duke Wins!

[HolyCow]

Watch Sportscenter tonight. Taj Gray had a ridiculous dunk today against Baylor. Ridiculous.

[cityondown5]

Ohhhhhh boy. :(:(

[ousooner]

24 in a row over Baylor. We own the Bears :D . Terrel Everett had 14 assists today too. Very nice.

[UNLTrpt]

Down by three to Tex-ass at the half. I will take it.

[ousooner]

Watch Sportscenter tonight. Taj Gray had a ridiculous dunk today against Baylor. Ridiculous.
Are you referring to the feed from Everett? I was in and out during the game and that's the only one I saw, so I may have missed something.

[ousooner]

Down by three to Tex-ass at the half. I will take it.
:thumbsup Come on Huskers, hook us up.

[DMBfan41]

any one else not have audio on ABC

im trying to watch UCLA/Washington, but theres no audio

[ousooner]

any one else not have audio on ABC

im trying to watch UCLA/Washington, but theres no audio
I had audio for the A&M-OState game. A&M just hit a shot with a second to go for the win. Tough weekend for the Pokes.

Edit: They just switched us over to your game and the audio is fine.

[UNLTrpt]

:thumbsup Come on Huskers, hook us up.

we just flat stunk it up in the second half. Our woes this year have been on the offensive end. We're shooting horribly.

[ousooner]

we just flat stunk it up in the second half. Our woes this year have been on the offensive end. We're shooting horribly.
Yeah, you guys suck ;)

[mizzoudmbfan]

Hallelujah!!

Went to KC to see Robert Randolph and the Family Band last night. Checked into the hotel around 4:00 flipped on the TV and the leading story was Coach Snyder's resignation. Best of luck to him, I'm just glad he is gone. I said all along that one of the reasons we bought Watkins in was that he could bring a little HC experience in a situation like this. I don't think we have much hope with games left in Ames, Boulder, and phog. But I think that we could walk away with a couple of wins against the Mildcats and the Huskers in Columbia and I'm sure that Melvin and Marcus will have the team fired up when A&M comes to town.

Go Tigers!

[unccrombie]

Are you saying Taylor Coppenrath = Tyler Hansbrough? I can see the comparison, but Tyler has a much, much better supporting cast.
i mean upset wise

[UNLTrpt]

Yeah, you guys suck ;)

:lorraine





















it's sad because it's true.

[HolyCow]

Are you referring to the feed from Everett? I was in and out during the game and that's the only one I saw, so I may have missed something.
That's the one I was talking about. LNC was kinda getting dull but out of nowhere that happens and it goes crazy. Everybody was shocked. It was awesome.

[chiznaz]

Hallelujah!!

Went to KC to see Robert Randolph and the Family Band last night. Checked into the hotel around 4:00 flipped on the TV and the leading story was Coach Snyder's resignation. Best of luck to him, I'm just glad he is gone. I said all along that one of the reasons we bought Watkins in was that he could bring a little HC experience in a situation like this. I don't think we have much hope with games left in Ames, Boulder, and phog. But I think that we could walk away with a couple of wins against the Mildcats and the Huskers in Columbia and I'm sure that Melvin and Marcus will have the team fired up when A&M comes to town.

Go Tigers!

Don't get your hopes up on Melvin, he wasted the talent of a 1st round pick for three years here at A&M. His coaching experience here consists of going 0-16 his last year as a HC in the BigXII.


On another note. I was at the A&M-OSU game today. It feels nice getting that game because of that loss at OSU earlier this year. Does Eddie Sutton wear tennis shoes on the bench during games. All the coaches(A&M & OSU) were wearing tennis shoes with their suits today, and I it was because of Sutton. But yeah, the last 2 min were insane, and winning on the last second shot is always awesome:D

[nolan8or]

another great performance by Duke and JJ (35 pts)

...Paulus had probably his best game of the year so far: 16 pts 7 assists...Shelden had a great game as well and Dockery did some big time scoring

two great wins this week on the road at unc and md...i'm ready for them to blow somebody out, hopefully itll be wake on tuesday

[mizzoudmbfan]

Don't get your hopes up on Melvin, he wasted the talent of a 1st round pick for three years here at A&M. His coaching experience here consists of going 0-16 his last year as a HC in the BigXII.


On another note. I was at the A&M-OSU game today. It feels nice getting that game because of that loss at OSU earlier this year. Does Eddie Sutton wear tennis shoes on the bench during games. All the coaches(A&M & OSU) were wearing tennis shoes with their suits today, and I it was because of Sutton. But yeah, the last 2 min were insane, and winning on the last second shot is always awesome:D

I'm not banking anything on Melvin Watkins. I'm more banking on A&M hoops being A&M hoops. One road victory all season.(this coming from a man who's school just lost by 26 points to Baylor:ugh)

The shoes thing is Coaches vs Cancer. They wear sneakers to the game and then autograph them and they are entered in a national auction.

[ousooner]

That's the one I was talking about. LNC was kinda getting dull but out of nowhere that happens and it goes crazy. Everybody was shocked. It was awesome.
Yeah, that was awsome. Even Sampson was smiling when they came to the sideline when Baylor called the timeout. But you know he would have tore Everett up if it hadn't worked.

[seekupig]

for the first time all season, Kansas joins the top 25. :thumbsup

[ousooner]

for the first time all season, Kansas joins the top 25. :thumbsup
Yeah, with the help of that bs "win" last weekend ;)

[seekupig]

Yeah, with the help of that bs win last weekend ;)

i've been meaning to thank you guys for rolling over and playing dead the last seven minutes of that game. it is most appreciated. ;)

[ousooner]

i've been meaning to thank you guys for rolling over and playing dead the last seven minutes of that game. it is most appreciated. ;)
Yeah, we choked up the last seven minutes, but it's the refs that rolled over and played dead the entire game that you should really be thanking. I just hope we meet again in the conference tournament.

[seekupig]

Yeah, we choked up the last seven minutes, but it's the refs that rolled over and played dead the entire game that you should really be thanking. I just hope we meet again in the conference tournament.

:rolleyes

[Third Floor]

wake won. hurray!

[HolyCow]

Yeah, we choked up the last seven minutes, but it's the refs that rolled over and played dead the entire game that you should really be thanking. I just hope we meet again in the conference tournament.

It's the truth. I am still bitter about that game. Just watching games since and seeing fouls called during normal games makes me realize how much they let go.

I mean, we had 22 offensive boards (Taj had 10 by himself) and we never got to shoot a freethrow on one of those putbacks. Can anyone think of a time that has happened?

[seekupig]

It's the truth. I am still bitter about that game. Just watching games since and seeing fouls called during normal games makes me realize how much they let go.

I mean, we had 22 offensive boards (Taj had 10 by himself) and we never got to shoot a freethrow on one of those putbacks. Can anyone think of a time that has happened?

:lorraine :lorraine

would you guys just let that crap go? every team that loses a close game can point to a few bad calls or non calls and say they were robbed. hell, five of KU's six losses have come by 4 points or less. i could sit here and give you a few plays from each game that i felt the refs blew. bad calls go both ways in a basketball game, you only remember them when your team loses. when KU lost that 7 point lead with under a minute to go at Mizzou, there was a bad traveling call and a jumpball that gave Mizzou possesion of the ball and allowed them to score. did i come on here and blame the refs? no, i blamed Moody for not hitting two free throws with 0.3 seconds left in a tie game. the bottom line is, no matter how many calls you think were missed, it takes a lot more than that to piss away 16 point lead with 7 minutes to go against a bunch of underclassmen.

rant over.

rock, chalk, jayhawk. #2 in the Big XII.........:lol

[ousooner]

You don't hear us whining about blowing the lead to Nebraska in the final seconds or the close loss to Missouri because those were legit losses. We have a problem with getting jobbed. I compare it to the OSU loss a couple of years ago when they made the winning basket with a few seconds to go in Stillwater when the shot clock had clearly expired. You shouldn't take our complaining so hard though. It's actually a tribute to KU. We have few chances to beat Kansas, especially in Lawrence. If it was a Baylor or a Colorado do you think we'd care as much? We probably won't be passed it until we meet again in the tournament or next year, as with Tech in football, so you'll just have to deal with it until then ;)

Edit: And I hate that I have to root for OState Monday night.

[seekupig]

We probably won't be passed it until we meet again in the tournament or next year.

you'd better hope it's in the tournament. this may be your last chance to win with the better team for a few years. ;)

[ousooner]

you'd better hope it's in the tournament. this may be your last chance to win with the better team for a few years. ;)
We've recruited pretty good ourselves. We'll be ok. If we stay in the two and three slots, which looks pretty likely, we'd be set up to meet in the semi's.

[Bswartz95]

Go Bucks! Beat Illinois!
Wooooo!!!! CBS.

[Bswartz95]

Looks like OSU should be the #9 team and the Illini #17.

:multi

[seekupig]

Looks like OSU should be the #9 team and the Illini #17.

:multi

there appears to be an ass-raping in progress. :thumbsup

[DMBfan41]

i can't believe this is the only game i can watch today. This is horrible

[DMBfan41]

UConn/West Virginia next weekend, looking forward to that one!

[Bswartz95]

Good win for the Bucks. :thumbsup

[seekupig]

i can't believe this is the only game i can watch today. This is horrible

the OSU/Illinois game wasn't on here. we got the Georgia Tech upset of NC State, and will get the UNC @ Miami game tonite.

[RJ2kWJ]

another great performance by Duke and JJ (35 pts)

...Paulus had probably his best game of the year so far: 16 pts 7 assists...Shelden had a great game as well and Dockery did some big time scoring

two great wins this week on the road at unc and md...i'm ready for them to blow somebody out, hopefully itll be wake on tuesday

Tell me this shit isnt NUTS!

JJ averages 31.8 points and 48% from the 3 at away games this entire season... Who does that away from home?

[DMBfan41]

JJ is simply the man, what else needs to be said.

I think Paulus showed in the last game that he can lead the team once JJ goes. He made freshmen mistakes in games, but he's got game. Nothing like JJ, but I have confidence that he's just gonna keep getting better

[unccrombie]

JJ is simply the man, what else needs to be said.

I think Paulus showed in the last game that he can lead the team once JJ goes. He made freshmen mistakes in games, but he's got game. Nothing like JJ, but I have confidence that he's just gonna keep getting better
you have to realize their styles are completely different. jj was recruited as a pure shooter. all through high school greg got others involved and was always a good visionary (through his quaterback position in football lead us to a state championship). greg is a natural leader, but in different ways than jj. he'll never put up the pts jj does but he'll be a raymond felton for duke

[DMBfan41]

you have to realize their styles are completely different. jj was recruited as a pure shooter. all through high school greg got others involved and was always a good visionary (through his quaterback position in football lead us to a state championship). greg is a natural leader, but in different ways than jj. he'll never put up the pts jj does but he'll be a raymond felton for duke

oh yeah, i know their styles are different, and paulus won't be putting up the points like JJ. I was just saying that i'm confident that he will be a good leader of this team when JJ goes to the NBA. I really look forward to watching Paulus the next few years

[unccrombie]

oh yeah, i know their styles are different, and paulus won't be putting up the points like JJ. I was just saying that i'm confident that he will be a good leader of this team when JJ goes to the NBA. I really look forward to watching Paulus the next few years
gotcha


good win today for us. 4th in the acc

[clayj41]

Yeah, definitely a big win today. Nice to get some redemption after Miami beat the Heels in the Dean Dome earlier in the year.

[clayj41]

Also, this article disgusts me. I don't support fans showing there frustration with a team by openly booing them, but I don't think you can blame those fans for the team losing.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=2327443

[UNC41]

gotcha


good win today for us. 4th in the acc

It was definately the game the Heels needed. Especially coming off a tough loss to Duke and the earlier loss to Miami.

[seekupig]

It was definately the game the Heels needed. Especially coming off a tough loss to Duke and the earlier loss to Miami.

starting to look like UNC and KU are both locks for the tourney unless a major collapse occurs over the next few weeks. Kentucky on the other hand..... :lol :lol

[unccrombie]

only thing i care about is upsetting the dukies

[seekupig]

only thing i care about is upsetting the dukies

you'd better find something else to care about or you're going to be an unhappy person. your best shot at that slipped through your fingers on tuesday. i hope i'm wrong, but i don't think i am.....

[unccrombie]

you'd better find something else to care about or you're going to be an unhappy person. your best shot at that slipped through your fingers on tuesday. i hope i'm wrong, but i don't think i am.....
someones a debbie downer :lol

[seekupig]

someones a debbie downer :lol

debbie downer..... realist...... what's the difference? :lol ;)


the only thing i care about is upsetting Texas.

[unccrombie]

debbie downer..... realist...... what's the difference? :lol ;)


the only thing i care about is upsetting Texas.
gar me no like ye words

[UNC41]

starting to look like UNC and KU are both locks for the tourney unless a major collapse occurs over the next few weeks. Kentucky on the other hand..... :lol :lol

Jelly, oh Jelly. Where did they go wrong? :lol

Reyshawn Terry has really been coming into his own lately. It's been nice to see.

[unccrombie]

Jelly, oh Jelly. Where did they go wrong? :lol

Reyshawn Terry has really been coming into his own lately. It's been nice to see.
i still hate quintin

[seekupig]

Reyshawn Terry has really been coming into his own lately. It's been nice to see.

they all looked good tonite. after the half, the game never really got close. Hansboro dominated the paint and the guards hit the outside shots. they actually made it look really easy tonite against a pretty good Miami team on the road. nice win. :thumbsup

[seekupig]

i still hate quintin

you mean Quentin "Hot Potato" Thomas? :lol :lol

[UNC41]

they all looked good tonite. after the half, the game never really got close. Hansboro dominated the paint and the guards hit the outside shots. they actually made it look really easy tonite against a pretty good Miami team on the road. nice win. :thumbsup

I had to work tonight so I missed the game. Doh! It is looking more and more each day like we could both be happy in March 2007.

[unccrombie]

you mean Quentin "Hot Potato" Thomas? :lol :lol
to put it lightly

[UNC41]

you mean Quentin "Hot Potato" Thomas? :lol :lol

I'd like to see a two-on-two game with him and Damien Grant playing someone ... anyone.

[gbs3769]

So yesterday Syracuse actually played like Syracuse. What a concept!

We should have blown open the first half more than six points, but it was clear, once the second half came around, that we were going to dominate that game. We need to pick up three wins in our remaining games. We have Cincinnati on Wednesday in the Dome and then Louisville on Saturday in the Dome. Those are both winnable games. Then Monday we have West Virginia in the Dome. We'll see how we look after the next two, but that is a winnable game if we play like Syracuse and not some high school team like we have against the other Top 25 Big East squads.

- Primo

[RJ2kWJ]

Can Nova pull the upset?

[gbs3769]

Can Nova pull the upset?
I think so. I think Nova is a better team and it's in Philly.

- Primo

[SteelerMan]

I had to work tonight so I missed the game. Doh! It is looking more and more each day like we could both be happy in March 2007.

They looked great last night. I'd say Miami played about as well as they did in the first game where they beat the Heels, but this time UNC just played much better. I think last night was a great example of how far they've progressed since earlier this season. I think we're going to have to wait until March 2008 to be truly happy (if by happy you're referring to competing for a National Championship). I think all the new freshmen next year might need a season to really adjust to the college game, much like Raymond, Rashad and Sean. Plus I think losing David Noel and Wes Miller is going to hurt more than most people think. They've come up huge this year.

[stgeorg3]

Can Nova pull the upset?


It's gonna be an amazing game for sure but with the way UConn is playing, how can they be stopped?

[SteelerMan]

Can Nova pull the upset?

I don't think so.

[UNLTrpt]

Here's a shocker: Sutton out for season; reportedly cited with DUI

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2329109

wow.

[UNC41]

They looked great last night. I'd say Miami played about as well as they did in the first game where they beat the Heels, but this time UNC just played much better. I think last night was a great example of how far they've progressed since earlier this season. I think we're going to have to wait until March 2008 to be truly happy (if by happy you're referring to competing for a National Championship). I think all the new freshmen next year might need a season to really adjust to the college game, much like Raymond, Rashad and Sean. Plus I think losing David Noel and Wes Miller is going to hurt more than most people think. They've come up huge this year.

Hopefully Wright, Ellington and Lawson all stick around for more than one year. Somehow I think that's doubtful though. If so, that team could be insane in 2008. Although with Terry showing a lot of progression, and if the freshman adjust well, next year's team could be scary come March. I'm already wondering if Fraser will be moved to the bench.

[UNC41]

Can Nova pull the upset?

No. Nova has been winning lately, but hasn't been that well. Meanwhile, UConn is the best team in the nation and is on a roll.

[gbs3769]

Here's a shocker: Sutton out for season; reportedly cited with DUI

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2329109

wow.
He was pulling a Frank Solich... That's too bad. I always liked Eddie Sutton for his days at Creighton.

- Primo

[dmb1spe]

I despised Sutton for his time at UK.

[dmb1spe]

According to the foundation that my father sits on the board for, Tubby is out at the end of the season if not sooner. And the number one guy on the list?

Quin Snyder.

That's right boys and girls... Lexington is about to get all hopped up on the Q!!!

[RJ2kWJ]

It's gonna be an amazing game for sure but with the way UConn is playing, how can they be stopped?

via JJ, Shelden, Greg and crew April 3rd :D

[rconverse]

According to the foundation that my father sits on the board for, Tubby is out at the end of the season if not sooner. And the number one guy on the list?

Quin Snyder.

That's right boys and girls... Lexington is about to get all hopped up on the Q!!!

There's no way. I can't see a team like Kentucky picking up Quin who did almost nothing at Missouri.

[rconverse]

via JJ, Shelden, Greg and crew April 3rd :D

'nuff said. :thumbsup

[gbs3769]

via JJ, Shelden, Greg and crew April 3rd :D
Doubtful. UConn would pwn Duke. UConn is just too deep.

- Primo

[stgeorg3]

via JJ, Shelden, Greg and crew April 3rd :D

Be careful what you wish for!!!

[HolyCow]

Here's a shocker: Sutton out for season; reportedly cited with DUI

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2329109

wow.

I never thought Eddie Sutton had any class.

[unccrombie]

ku, bucknell, and lsu all enter the top 25. always nice to see. how about FL only dropping one spot after the loss to so. carolina? bssssssssss?

[chiznaz]

I never thought Eddie Sutton had any class.

His program is like a correctional facility with the type of players they bring in.

[RJ2kWJ]

Doubtful. UConn would pwn Duke. UConn is just too deep.

- Primo

You are nuts if you think they would destroy Duke. Tell Marquette that.

Only way they would beat Duke by an ok margin would be if Shelden didnt show up like he did against G-town.

[unccrombie]

You are nuts if you think they would destroy Duke. Tell Marquette that.

Only way they would beat Duke by an ok margin would be if Shelden didnt show up like he did against G-town.
or he gets out played. much like jj did vs felton ;)

[gbs3769]

You are nuts if you think they would destroy Duke. Tell Marquette that.
I said pwn, not destroy. UConn will beat Duke if they meet in the tournament. Take it to the judge.

- Primo

[HolyCow]

His program is like a correctional facility with the type of players they bring in.:thumbsup

It says a lot when a program hires you 1 year after you put a program on 4 years probation.

O-State. No class, ever.

[SteelerMan]

I said pwn, not destroy. UConn will beat Duke if they meet in the tournament. Take it to the judge.

- Primo

:thumbsup

Agreed.

[RJ2kWJ]

I said pwn, not destroy. UConn will beat Duke if they meet in the tournament. Take it to the judge.

- Primo

:lol k... we shall talk in March/April

[gbs3769]

:lol k... we shall talk in March/April
I can't wait.

- Primo

[mizzoudmbfan]

According to the foundation that my father sits on the board for, Tubby is out at the end of the season if not sooner. And the number one guy on the list?

Quin Snyder.

That's right boys and girls... Lexington is about to get all hopped up on the Q!!!

Huh, and all this time I thought that KY would want to reverse this years trend and attempt to return to glory. Guess you never know with some programs.

[UNC41]

via JJ, Shelden, Greg and crew April 3rd :D

Unless it's a close game, in which case Paulus will only hurt Duke down the stretch.

[seekupig]

Huh, and all this time I thought that KY would want to reverse this years trend and attempt to return to glory. Guess you never know with some programs.

i heard a few weeks back that Quinn will be at Oregon next season once their current coach gets canned.

Duke (coach K) -> Nike -> Oregon

[UNC41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

With this bracket I could honestly see Carolina losing to UConn in the Elite Eight.

Final Four: UConn, West Virginia, Villanova and Duke

[RJ2kWJ]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

With this bracket I could honestly see Carolina losing to UConn in the Elite Eight.

Final Four: UConn, West Virginia, Villanova and Duke

Think you could get through Ohio St.?

[seekupig]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

With this bracket I could honestly see Carolina losing to UConn in the Elite Eight.

Final Four: UConn, West Virginia, Villanova and Duke

I don't think one conference is going to get three teams to the Final Four.

with those brackets my Final Four would be Michigan St., UConn, Oklahoma, & WVU.


I like the potential Kansas, NC State game in the second round.

[UNC41]

Think you could get through Ohio St.?

Not me, but the Heels yeah.

[RJ2kWJ]

Not me, but the Heels yeah.

You know what I meant. :lol

But yea that'd be awesome... the further ACC teams go the better.

[RJ2kWJ]

With those brackets Id say... Duke, UConn, Villanova, and WVU.

[UNC41]

You know what I meant. :lol

But yea that'd be awesome... the further ACC teams go the better.

It should be a short list of teams that go far this year.

[seekupig]

It should be a short list of teams that go far this year.

it would be sweet to see UNC vs. Kansas to get to the Final Four. after all the talk about down years, that would be a great way to finish the season....

[UNC41]

it would be sweet to see UNC vs. Kansas to get to the Final Four. after all the talk about down years, that would be a great way to finish the season....

That would be awesome. Although neither team is having a typical year for its program, they are both playing good basketball right now.

[seekupig]

That would be awesome. Although neither team is having a typical year for its program, they are both playing good basketball right now.

that's what matters. Syracuse started off shaky in '03, grew up and improved as the season went on, then rolled through the entire field and won a National Title. don't expect that from UNC or KU this year, but i don't think either is a team that the top dogs want to face come March. if you were a UConn or Duke, seeing UNC or Kansas as a possible Sweet 16 matchup would not make you happy.

[UNC41]

that's what matters. Syracuse started off shaky in '03, grew up and improved as the season went on, then rolled through the entire field and won a National Title. don't expect that from UNC or KU this year, but i don't think either is a team that the top dogs want to face come March. if you were a UConn or Duke, seeing UNC or Kansas as a possible Sweet 16 matchup would not make you happy.

Georgetown and Oklahoma are two more teams I see like that.

[ousooner]

I don't think one conference is going to get three teams to the Final Four.

with those brackets my Final Four would be Michigan St., UConn, Oklahoma, & WVU.


I like the potential Kansas, NC State game in the second round.
Really? Do explain.

[ousooner]

How can a 15-9 Kentucky team be in the tournament?

[RJ2kWJ]

Hell of a game at halftime... 33-32

[haildmb]

let's go Nova

[clayj41]

UConn starting to run away a little bit.

[clayj41]

WOW...what a comeback!

[RJ2kWJ]

WOW...what a comeback!

yea both of these teams are beastly.

[UNC41]

Will Sheridan's coming out party?

[dmbinchicago]

I love this game. Can't wait for Vegas-- 40 games in three days :bounce

[seekupig]

Really? Do explain.

the tournament is about matchups. in that bracket, i like theirs. we all know that the real brackets won't look anything like that one, but if that was it, i'd have OU in the Final Four.

[RJ2kWJ]

Why the HELL didnt he take that layup? That tard.... coulda cost them the game... especially after missing that free throw. What a fuckin idiot.

[RJ2kWJ]

I don't think so.

Well you think wrong. So Im sorry... I now cannot take your thoughts seriously about UConn beating Duke in April. :lol

Back up to #1 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[unccrombie]

Well you think wrong. So Im sorry... I now cannot take your thoughts seriously about UConn beating Duke in April. :lol

Back up to #1 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uconn is still the best TEAM in the country, i can guarantee on a neutral court come april, uconn prevails over whoever

[HolyCow]

Really? Do explain.

I can see it happening. We are a tough matchup in the tournament.

Streaky shooting team that plays physical, tough defense and pounds you on the glass.

Come Sweet 16 and Elite 8 time, I can see us getting calls and out-bullying opponents.

[haildmb]

uconn is still the best TEAM in the country, i can guarantee on a neutral court come april, uconn prevails over whoever


oh you can guarantee, huh? That's a big thing to say. But then again, I guess you get off when Uconn doesn't even play in April, right?

[haildmb]

I can see it happening. We are a tough matchup in the tournament.

Streaky shooting team that plays physical, tough defense and pounds you on the glass.

Come Sweet 16 and Elite 8 time, I can see us getting calls and out-bullying opponents.


Unless you have to play Kansas, right?

[HolyCow]

Unless you have to play Kansas, right?

Booooo.


I hate rooting for O-State. OU needs them to win though.

I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out Eddie Sutton again. A classless coach for a low-brow university.

[clayj41]

uconn is still the best TEAM in the country, i can guarantee on a neutral court come april, uconn prevails over whoever

I'll agree with the first part of that statement. I'm not gonna make any guarantees though. March Madness is the most unpredictable thing ever!

[unccrombie]

oh you can guarantee, huh? That's a big thing to say. But then again, I guess you get off when Uconn doesn't even play in April, right?
i'd even make it my primary wager that if uconn plays duke, they will win. as for the april thing, har har, its late :lol

[ousooner]

Unless you have to play Kansas, right?
In Lawrence or Kemper Arena? Yeah, we're screwed.

[UNC41]

uconn is still the best TEAM in the country, i can guarantee on a neutral court come april, uconn prevails over whoever

I see a lot of last year's UNC team in them.

[seekupig]

In Lawrence or Kemper Arena? Yeah, we're screwed.

:lol

Sooners aren't big fans of letting things go are they? :lol ;)

[unccrombie]

I see a lot of last year's UNC team in them.
eh, they're not as explosive, but they're much more deep. which will be a huge plus come march.

[ousooner]

:lol

Sooners aren't big fans of letting things go are they? :lol ;)
Nope :D . I recently had a conversation with someone about what the most disappointing championship loss that I've witnessed was.

1987 Miami (football)
1988 Kansas (hoops)
2003 LSU (football)
2004 USC (football)

I've concluded that although OU is a football school and football is and always we'll be #1 here, the 88' loss to KU is the toughest for me. I really think it will take a national championship for me to finally get over it, and even that may not do it. And because of that, every negative thing that comes from playing Kansas, such as last weekend, appears to be magnified because of that. I really wish I would get over it. I'd probably be a much happier person.

[RJ2kWJ]

uconn is still the best TEAM in the country, i can guarantee on a neutral court come april, uconn prevails over whoever

Wow. Yup... my definition of the best TEAM in the nation is definitely a bunch of guys who have open players yet try to go up and dunk the ball 90% of the time. Please.

More power to them if thats the way they win and it works becase thats all that matters... but Ive only seen a few games this season where they actually perform like a TEAM.

[seekupig]

Wow. Yup... my definition of the best TEAM in the nation is definitely a bunch of guys who have open players yet try to go up and dunk the ball 90% of the time. Please.

More power to them if thats the way they win and it works becase thats all that matters... but Ive only seen a few games this season where they actually perform like a TEAM.

i agree completely. TEAM basketball is one player scoring over 33% of the points. ;)

[unccrombie]

i agree completely. TEAM basketball is one player scoring over 33% of the points. ;)
:thumbsup i mean....uh....yeah...no :lol

[ousooner]

Something I thought I'd never say - Our game at Colorado Wednesday is huge.

[seekupig]

Something I thought I'd never say - Our game at Colorado Wednesday is huge.

:thumbsup a loss there would pretty much lock KU into the #2 spot. i hope you guys win though, don't want our strength of schedule and quality wins getting jacked up because you lose to the Buffs. :lol

[HolyCow]

Something I thought I'd never say - Our game at Colorado Wednesday is huge.

Yes, it is. I like our chances though.

[chiznaz]

Something I thought I'd never say - Our game at Colorado Wednesday is huge.

you should beat them. hell if we can beat them with a walk-on as a starter, you better beat them.

[gbs3769]

uconn is still the best TEAM in the country, i can guarantee on a neutral court come april, uconn prevails over whoever
I agree that UConn is still the best team in the country. They are the deepest team and once again Calhoun has a team that can win a championship.

UConn will take the rematch with Villanova in Hartford in two weeks. Regardless, Go Cats! I love seeing my parents alma mater win.

- Primo

[DMBfan41]

UNC, Maryland, and now Duke gets Wake tonight!

Let's see the winning continue!

[SteelerMan]

Well you think wrong. So Im sorry... I now cannot take your thoughts seriously about UConn beating Duke in April. :lol

Back up to #1 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not so fast Shirley. I still think UConn is the best team, and I still think they'd beat Duke at a neutral site in the tourney. Actually, I think if last night's Nova-UConn game had been played at UConn or a neutral site, UConn would've come out on top. I'm not guaranteeing anything, it's just my opinion.

[gbs3769]

Actually, I think if last night's Nova-UConn game had been played at UConn or a neutral site, UConn would've come out on top.
2.28. Nova at UConn.

- Primo

[SteelerMan]

Also, a little reminder... UNC lost to Santa Clara last season, proving that regular season losses mean very little when it comes time for the tourney.

[SteelerMan]

Unless it's a close game, in which case Paulus will only hurt Duke down the stretch.

I agree. People were hyping Paulus big time coming into this season, but take a look at these numbers...

Greg Paulus: 6.6 points, 2.8 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 3.3 TO (1.62 Assists/TO Ratio), 1.5 steals, 38.7 FG%, 83.9 FT%,

Bobby Frasor: 7.1 points, 2.0 rebounds, 4.6 assists, 2.5 TO (1.83 Assists/TO Ratio), 1 steal, 40.2 FG%, 80 FT%

They're actually pretty close in stats, and I doubt Frasor will even be starting next season, while Paulus is supposed to be their PG of the future.

[gbs3769]

Paulus is their PG of the future. He's only going to get better.

- Primo

[SteelerMan]

Paulus is their PG of the future. He's only going to get better.

- Primo

I'm sure he will, but I don't think anyone can say he's having a great season.

[gbs3769]

I'm sure he will, but I don't think anyone can say he's having a great season.
He's had some good games, but I agree that he hasn't had a great season.

I still wish that he would have come to Syracuse to play both Football and Basketball.

- Primo

[gbs3769]

I didn't realize the rematch between UConn and Nova is being played in Storrs rather than Hartford.

- Primo

[unccrombie]

He's had some good games, but I agree that he hasn't had a great season.

I still wish that he would have come to Syracuse to play both Football and Basketball.

- Primo
i dont know what the press was saying, but everyone in school new there was no chance. on the other hand, bruce williams and lavar lobdell were headin to SU for football the whole way. little known fact, bruce is quite the talented basketball player. never played high school though...wouldnt be suprised to see him out there one day ala mich st.

[gbs3769]

i dont know what the press was saying, but everyone in school new there was no chance. on the other hand, bruce williams and lavar lobdell were headin to SU for football the whole way. little known fact, bruce is quite the talented basketball player. never played high school though...wouldnt be suprised to see him out there one day ala mich st.
Yeah, I knew he wasn't ever coming to Syracuse, but it just hurts to have such a great player from your city not even consider your school especially when you have (usually) good programs in both sports that he plays.

Bruce Williams is absolutely amazing. I was real impressed with him his Senior year.

- Primo

[seekupig]

Also, a little reminder... UNC lost to Santa Clara last season, proving that regular season losses mean very little when it comes time for the tourney.

all that game proved is how important a quality point guard is. Raymond Felton was suspended, forcing Quentin Thomas to run the show by himself in his first game. hell, look at Wake Forest now. Chris Paul leaves and the look like Girl Scout Troop #279 all of a sudden.....

[RJ2kWJ]

i agree completely. TEAM basketball is one player scoring over 33% of the points. ;)

Hell yea... do you see what goes in to getting JJ open? Screeens here, assists there... The TEAM performing to help get him open.

[ousooner]

Hell yea... do you see what goes in to getting JJ open? Screeens here, assists there... The TEAM performing to help get him open.
Wow, you Duke fans can spin anything.

[clayj41]

Wow, you Duke fans can spin anything.

:thumbsup :lol JJ can even help himself get open sometimes by pushing off!:lol

[RJ2kWJ]

Wow, you Duke fans can spin anything.

Were like our own political party. :lol