Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[SteelerMan]

Raymond Felton had a great month in Charlotte. Before tonight's struggle.

16.8 ppg, 6.9 apg, 4.9 rpg, 46% 3fg.

The Bobcats blow, but once Emeka and May get healthy they'll have a solid nucleus. If they add Gay or Morrison Charlotte could be scary in a couple of years.

Ok, that had nothing to do with college basketball, but seeing Felton play well gets me jacked.

Sweet. I miss seeing Raymond play (the Bobcats are NEVER on TV). Also, check out how Raymond did against the favorite for ROY in February...

Raymond: 16.8 ppg, 6.9 apg, 4.9 rpg, 46% 3fg
Chris Paul: 16.3 ppg, 9.0 apg, 4.0 rpg, 44% 3fg

Pretty favorable stats. They were the top two rookies in assists, and the next closest is 3.5. Just for comparative purposes...

Deron Williams: 8.4 ppg, 2.3 apg, 2.9 rpg, 56% 3fg

[clayj41]

I miss Raymond!:(

[UNC41]

trader is all i have to say :lol

Haha. I was actually fine with him leaving. It sucked when they all announced it, but made sense why. Rashad was gone before the season began. Marvin was going to be the No. 2 pick, that's tough to pass up. Sean's stock wasn't going to be any higher. With those guys leaving it really made sense for him to go. If Sean stayed I think he might of, but who knows.

That being said, beat Duke on Saturday!

[RJ2kWJ]

Haha. I was actually fine with him leaving. It sucked when they all announced it, but made sense why. Rashad was gone before the season began. Marvin was going to be the No. 2 pick, that's tough to pass up. Sean's stock wasn't going to be any higher. With those guys leaving it really made sense for him to go. If Sean stayed I think he might of, but who knows.

That being said, beat Duke on Saturday!

Good luck.

[unccrombie]

Good luck.
luck could be an understatement :(

[RJ2kWJ]

luck could be an understatement :(

Nah... Like Ive ALWAYS said... no matter what team has the stars, no matter which is higher ranked, no matter where its played... that game has ALWAYS been and ALWAYS WILL BE a battle. Its why I love it. :D

Just saying good luck. Gonna be tough, but good luck. :)

[41ravens]

it's march tomorrow. the best freakin' month of the year.

[unccrombie]

Nah... Like Ive ALWAYS said... no matter what team has the stars, no matter which is higher ranked, no matter where its played... that game has ALWAYS been and ALWAYS WILL BE a battle. Its why I love it. :D

Just saying good luck. Gonna be tough, but good luck. :)
haven't gotten lucky at cameron in a while though

[rconverse]

haven't gotten lucky at cameron in a while though

I performed an extremely scientific and complex calculation of the possible results of the UNC v. Duke game. Taking into account 42 key indexes (pts per game, wins at home, wins on the road, etc) I have come up with the following results for the two teams' chances of winning Saturday as well as the probable final score within one to two standard deviations. The results are as follows:


Duke's chance of winning: 99.99999%
Duke's probable ending score: 87

UNC's chance of winning: 0.00000%
UNC's probable ending score: 57


Thers is a 0.00001 a terrorist regime will blow up the building and the game may not be played. Official findings of this study indicate that anyone who is rooting for Duke is a true-blue, red-blooded American. Anyone rooting for North Carolina is in reality cheering for terrorism and is a pinko, commi that should be erased from the planet.

[CrashIntoThis]

it's march tomorrow. the best freakin' month of the year.

i wouldn't say it's the best month of the year.. but I'm glad it's finally march.:thumbsup

[unccrombie]

I performed an extremely scientific and complex calculation of the possible results of the UNC v. Duke game. Taking into account 42 key indexes (pts per game, wins at home, wins on the road, etc) I have come up with the following results for the two teams' chances of winning Saturday as well as the probable final score within one to two standard deviations. The results are as follows:


Duke's chance of winning: 99.99999%
Duke's probable ending score: 87

UNC's chance of winning: 0.00000%
UNC's probable ending score: 57


Thers is a 0.00001 a terrorist regime will blow up the building and the game may not be played. Official findings of this study indicate that anyone who is rooting for Duke is a true-blue, red-blooded American. Anyone rooting for North Carolina is in reality cheering for terrorism and is a pinko, commi that should be erased from the planet.
i think you need a course in probability and statistics and more than anything a reality check ;)

[haildmb]

Anyone rooting for North Carolina is in reality cheering for terrorism and is a pinko, commi that should be erased from the planet.


As I've been saying this year, if unc were playing against the Bin Laden All-Stars, I'd pull for the Bin Laden All-Stars

[UNC41]

I performed an extremely scientific and complex calculation of the possible results of the UNC v. Duke game. Taking into account 42 key indexes (pts per game, wins at home, wins on the road, etc) I have come up with the following results for the two teams' chances of winning Saturday as well as the probable final score within one to two standard deviations. The results are as follows:


Duke's chance of winning: 99.99999%
Duke's probable ending score: 87

UNC's chance of winning: 0.00000%
UNC's probable ending score: 57


Thers is a 0.00001 a terrorist regime will blow up the building and the game may not be played. Official findings of this study indicate that anyone who is rooting for Duke is a true-blue, red-blooded American. Anyone rooting for North Carolina is in reality cheering for terrorism and is a pinko, commi that should be erased from the planet.

Erase me baby. Erase me.

[bustdstuff]

I performed an extremely scientific and complex calculation of the possible results of the UNC v. Duke game. Taking into account 42 key indexes (pts per game, wins at home, wins on the road, etc) I have come up with the following results for the two teams' chances of winning Saturday as well as the probable final score within one to two standard deviations. The results are as follows:


Duke's chance of winning: 99.99999%
Duke's probable ending score: 87

UNC's chance of winning: 0.00000%
UNC's probable ending score: 57


Thers is a 0.00001 a terrorist regime will blow up the building and the game may not be played. Official findings of this study indicate that anyone who is rooting for Duke is a true-blue, red-blooded American. Anyone rooting for North Carolina is in reality cheering for terrorism and is a pinko, commi that should be erased from the planet.

:thumbsup :lol :thumbsup

[chiznaz]

i know. but come on guys. (and, just because i have to say it, we all know that i'm not really worked up about this, just discussing...) anyway, i agree with you royce, but the situation was different. it was on a freethrow. the clock was stopped at .6 there's no confusion about whether or not the game is over i really don't care, but the fact of the matter is that something should have been called.

How about a delay of game warning, OSU inbounds the ball, same result. Calling a tech in that situation would have been the all time most bogus call ever. It didn't disrupt a play in progress(meaning OSU had already inbound the ball). The refs did the right thing considering there was .6 seconds left. If there was more time (like 30 seconds) it would be a different situation.

[Third Floor]

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/multimedia/sports/coachkommercial/

[seekupig]

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/multimedia/sports/coachkommercial/

:lol :lol :thumbsup

[clayj41]

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/multimedia/sports/coachkommercial/

That's great!:lol

[d+ter]

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/multimedia/sports/coachkommercial/

:lol :lol

:haha

[Third Floor]

best one was the daredevil.

[seekupig]

best one was the daredevil.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

i lilked watching coach K dance like MC Hammer as well. :lol

[UNC41]

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/multimedia/sports/coachkommercial/

:lol :lol

Fantastic

[Third Floor]

yeah, but the daredevil one had dickie v saying "they actually called a foul on duke??"

[RJ2kWJ]

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/multimedia/sports/coachkommercial/

:lol :lol :lol :thumbsup

[41ravens]

i'm guessing you guys have heard about this, but just in case...

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157076

[Third Floor]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/ethan_trex/03/01/left.field/index.html

ill post it here too

[RJ2kWJ]

Uh oh...

[unccrombie]

i smell it...

[unccrombie]

someone should get demarcus nelson a FT coach

[unccrombie]

FSU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! senior night ba-by

[unccrombie]

thats a tech foul...

[clayj41]

Wow, so Duke is gonna lose 2 in a row!:D

[clayj41]

thats a tech foul...

Crazy shit!

[unccrombie]

some premature ejaculation going on in FSU

[RJ2kWJ]

some premature ejaculation going on in FSU

:lol Tough loss... We had a lot of bad fouls (our fault) Oh well. DAMN DAMN.

[unccrombie]

:lol Tough loss... We had a lot of bad fouls (our fault) Oh well. DAMN DAMN.
one hell of a game though. gonna be some hell in cameron saturday. cant wait

[RJ2kWJ]

one hell of a game though. gonna be some hell in cameron saturday. cant wait

Hell yea it will be... but good luck... Mike will NOT lose two in a row. :D

[unccrombie]

Hell yea it will be... but good luck... Mike will NOT lose two in a row. :D
and with it being senior night, oh boy

[ousooner]

Damn, I missed that game. I got home and they are storming the court. That loss is really meaningless. It has no effect on seeding.

[ousooner]

Things could get very interesting in the Big 12 this weekend if A&M holds on against texas.

[HolyCow]

Damn, I missed that game. I got home and they are storming the court. That loss is really meaningless. It has no effect on seeding.

FSU embarassed themselves with the court storming.

Because of this incident, something will be done about this madness.

[ousooner]

FSU embarassed themselves with the court storming.

Because of this incident, something will be done about this madness.
What happened? I just saw the very end of it.

[RJ2kWJ]

What happened? I just saw the very end of it.

They stormed with 2 seconds left... one of their own players got injured. Coach K sent his players to the locker room that werent playing.

[HolyCow]

Because of the storming, they got a technical called on them and put JJ on the line for two with the score 77-72. JJ made both and potentially if the FSU guy would have missed his free throws, Duke would have had a chance, ONLY because of FSU's fans.

[ousooner]

Morons! This storming the court is absolutely rediculous and needs to be dealt with.

Edit: Come on Aggies, keep us alive for the conference title.

[HolyCow]

Morons! This storming the court is absolutely rediculous and needs to be dealt with.

:thumbsup Amen. Amen. Amen.

I agree with Doug Gottlieb for once. A set of guidelines must be made.

A&M deserves this court storm. Totally justified here.

[clayj41]

Oh my God.....IU won a road Big Ten game!:lol

[ousooner]

Well, other then giving texas more motivation Sunday, that's great. Now a KState win over KU and an OU win over texas Sunday and we have a three way split for the conference championship.

[HolyCow]

Boomer Sooner baby. We can still freakin win the Big XII. How sweet it is.

[unccrombie]

texas got shell shocked

[smeritt]

Because of the storming, they got a technical called on them and put JJ on the line for two with the score 77-72. JJ made both and potentially if the FSU guy would have missed his free throws, Duke would have had a chance, ONLY because of FSU's fans.Wow i turned it off with 2 seconds left and missed that shit.

[seekupig]

Well, other then giving texas more motivation Sunday, that's great. Now a KState win over KU and an OU win over texas Sunday and we have a three way split for the conference championship.

1983. :cool

[ousooner]

The OU women won by a single point tonight to run the Big 12 table 16-0. Yeah, I know, nobody gives a rats ass about women's hoops. I just thought it was pretty funny given OU's string of 1 point wins.

[chiznaz]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!

WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got back and I'm still shaking. This win jumps are program BIG TIME. Gillispie is turning things around, recruiting top texas talent, and this game is a huge step for us. Yes I stormed the court for the first time:):D, and nobody got hurt (I haven't seen the Duke game, but I heard the court storming was bad). Gillispie was going crazy in the crowd jumping up and down. I haven't been this excited about Aggie sports in a long time. About damn time!

[seekupig]

The OU women won by a single point tonight to run the Big 12 table 16-0. Yeah, I know, nobody gives a rats ass about women's hoops. I just thought it was pretty funny given OU's string of 1 point wins.

1983. :cool

[ousooner]

1983. :cool
I saw it the first time. What's your point? ;)

Edit: Forgetting about KU's streak, who's more likely to win, OU or KState?

[unccrombie]

The OU women won by a single point tonight to run the Big 12 table 16-0. Yeah, I know, nobody gives a rats ass about women's hoops. I just thought it was pretty funny given OU's string of 1 point wins.
the carolina women rocked duke at cameron and chapel hill. ill join you for a women's celebration

[seekupig]

Forgetting about KU's streak, who's more likely to win, OU or KState?

you can't forget about the streak. KU hasn't lost in Manhattan since 1983. that being said, after Texas lost tonight i wouldn't give many teams in the country a shot at winning this weekend in Austin. that includes the Oklahoma "oh shit, we won again" Sooners. :D ;)

[ousooner]

the carolina women rocked duke at cameron and chapel hill. ill join you for a women's celebration
The OU women are now 26-4 and ranked 8th. This may not be the year, but they have all five starters coming back next year.

[HolyCow]

The OU women are now 26-4 and ranked 8th. This may not be the year, but they have all five starters coming back next year.

My girls are dominating. They have yet to lose a game in which I was with them.

It is all because of my influence. Booyah. :cool

[ousooner]

you can't forget about the streak. KU hasn't lost in Manhattan since 1983. that being said, after Texas lost tonight i wouldn't give many teams in the country a shot at winning this weekend in Austin. that includes the Oklahoma "oh shit, we won again" Sooners. :D ;)
I don't think that streak means as much as it would have if KU would have won in Lawrence earlier this year. KState knows they can win now. I agree about OU-texas. I don't give OU much of a chance, but they may surprise me as they seem to play to the level of their competition.

[ousooner]

My girls are dominating. They have yet to lose a game in which I was with them.

It is all because of my influence. Booyah. :cool
You go to the girls games? They've been getting bigger crowds then the guys. I've never been to one.

[seekupig]

I don't think that streak means as much as it would have if KU would have won in Lawrence earlier this year. KState knows they can win now. I agree about OU-texas. I don't give OU much of a chance, but they may surprise me as they seem to play to the level of their competition.

believe what you must, my friend.

Texas beats Oklahoma.
Kansas beats Kansas State.

i know those aren't bold predictions, but they are the truth.

(nobody wants OU to win more than me. first place in the Big XII would be a beautiful thing.)

[ousooner]

believe what you must, my friend.

Texas beats Oklahoma.
Kansas beats Kansas State.

i know those aren't bold predictions, but they are the truth.

(nobody wants OU to win more than me. first place in the Big XII would be a beautiful thing.)
Come on, you act like I'm arguing with you. I think you're right on both those games, but I think KState and OU can both win this weekend.

[HolyCow]

You go to the girls games? They've been getting bigger crowds then the guys. I've never been to one.

You didn't know? I am a student manager/scout team player for the girls. I know everybody in the OU basketball program. I am wearing the jacket thing that Coach Coale got me for Christmas.

[ousooner]

You didn't know? I am a student manager/scout team player for the girls. I know everybody in the OU basketball program. I am wearing the jacket thing that Coach Coale got me for Christmas.
No, I didn't know. Cool.

[HolyCow]

No, I didn't know. Cool.

I did it because it looks awesome on my resume for scholarships, I get in free to everything at Lloyd Noble and I have gotten to know a lot of important people.

[chiznaz]

I did it because it looks awesome on my resume for scholarships, I get in free to everything at Lloyd Noble and I have gotten to know a lot of important people.

that's awesome. One of my good friends from high school is one of the student managers under scott drew at Baylor. He's learned a ton of basketball from him and is trying to become a coach.

just wondering.... how did you go about getting the position with the girls program?

[seekupig]

Come on, you act like I'm arguing with you. I think you're right on both those games, but I think KState and OU can both win this weekend.

i know you're not arguing with me. both teams do have a chance. that's the great thing about college basketball, anyone can beat anyone. but if you're betting anything of value, Texas and KU is the smart bet. i'm pulling for OU and KU this weekend for obvious reasons. who would have taken the Jayhawks preseason to win the Big XII? nobody.

[seekupig]

that's awesome. One of my good friends from high school is one of the student managers under scott drew at Baylor. He's learned a ton from him


does he prefer knife or gun? ;) :eek

[chiznaz]

does he prefer knife or gun? ;) :eek

ouch... way ouch:twak That's worse than a blow to the nuts. just playin with you;)



In my opinion though, I understand the NCAA coming down hard on them, but's completely unfair how this coach and team have to deal with the penalties. Nobody on that staff was involved in any way with it. Just a shame for those players.

[seekupig]

ouch... way ouch:twak That's worse than a blow to the nuts. just playin with you;)



In my opinion though, I understand the NCAA coming down hard on them, but's completely unfair how this coach and team have to deal with the penalties. Nobody on that staff was involved in any way with it. Just a shame for those players.

i agree. i think there should be a rule that coaches should sit out a year if transfering, just like players do. a lot of people forget that Roy Williams first year at KU was spent on probation because of the crap Larry Brown pulled before winning a national title and bolting. there's just too much grey area to police when it comes to coaches coming and going. sucks for the new guy, but sometimes that's what it takes to get a shot. seems to have worked out all right for Roy.....

[HolyCow]

that's awesome. One of my good friends from high school is one of the student managers under scott drew at Baylor. He's learned a ton of basketball from him and is trying to become a coach.

just wondering.... how did you go about getting the position with the girls program?

My girlfriend is a cheerleader and she just heard through the athletic department that they needed someone, so I thought I would give it a go.

[chiznaz]

here is someone's video of the last shot at the A&M game. Man was it loud when that shot hit.

http://media.putfile.com/Last-Shot

[nhl123_2000]

Alright,
So Duke/UNC is Sat.

Predictions? Conversation pieces?
I was front row for UNC beating Dook last year at the Smith Center - best time ever!

Discuss.

[unccrombie]

given senior night and the fact duke just lost i find this game entirely in duke's favor. sheldon > tyler. and mcroberts could do some damage as well. ginyard and wes really need to step up saturday. hopefully wes will stay on JJ

[nhl123_2000]

Alright - but dook has been slacking lately- you can't admit there play lately has been like it was earlier in the season. JJ is beg. to become fatigued from playing such heavy minutes every game. If we continue shooting threes like we have - I think it can be a victory. If David plays like he did tonight (which was awesome being there) it's gonna be close

[unccrombie]

JJ hasn't been tired, just off. plus he's going to be at home. noel has been big lately which will be clutch, but tyler will either win it or lose it for them. duke can win without JJ but if sheldon slacks i think tyler can take mcroberts

[nhl123_2000]

Yea - alright - I gotta get going. Ill post back tomorrow.

[seekupig]

if it's close, it's only because of the rivalry. Duke should blow them out. not saying that they're that much better, but given the circumstances i don't think it should be a very close game.

[unccrombie]

if it's close, it's only because of the rivalry. Duke should blow them out. not saying that they're that much better, but given the circumstances i don't think it should be a very close game.
ill give it 10pts. shouldnt be more than that. it all depends on how they come out to play. unc CAN beat duke. if they limit the TOs I think they have a fighting chance

[seekupig]

ill give it 10pts. shouldnt be more than that. it all depends on how they come out to play. unc CAN beat duke. if they limit the TOs I think they have a fighting chance

i agree. i just think the Duke loss tonite hurt most of the fighting chance they have. i'm pulling for it, but i just don't see it. good luck. :thumbsup

[unccrombie]

i agree. i just think the Duke loss tonite hurt most of the fighting chance they have. i'm pulling for it, but i just don't see it. good luck. :thumbsup
yup. should be a dandy i hope

[seekupig]

yup. should be a dandy i hope

did you go to UNC? not sure if you read the Kentucky thread at all today, but apparently that is a requirement for being a fan of a team. so says the all knowing Julie, anyways. :lol

[unccrombie]

no, i don't even remember why i started liking them. my dad tells me it was around when i was 5 or so, but couldnt remember why

[UNC41]

given senior night and the fact duke just lost i find this game entirely in duke's favor. sheldon > tyler. and mcroberts could do some damage as well. ginyard and wes really need to step up saturday. hopefully wes will stay on JJ

Sheldon is a better player, but Tyler is the exact kind of plaatyer than can capitalize on Sheldon's tendencey to get into foul trouble. If this happens UNC stands a chance. Still, it's tough to bet against Duke at Cameron on senior night. The Heels can beat them, but it is not likely.

[ousooner]

no, i don't even remember why i started liking them. my dad tells me it was around when i was 5 or so, but couldnt remember why
You'll need to provide a valid explanation for being a Rangers fan or we're going to have to ask you to remove that avatar.

[SteelerMan]

sheldon > tyler

I don't think I agree with this. It's tough to compare them though considering that UNC depends much more on Tyler than Duke does on Sheldon. If Sheldon gets in foul trouble, I think Tyler could have a field day in the scoring department.

[SteelerMan]

did you go to UNC? not sure if you read the Kentucky thread at all today, but apparently that is a requirement for being a fan of a team. so says the all knowing Julie, anyways. :lol

:lol

I look like a big bandwagon fan at the moment... a UNC and Steelers fan, both of whom won championships in the past year. But I've been a Steelers fan for about 13 years and a UNC fan for 8 years. I've never understood why people force others to defend themselves for liking teams unless they obviously jump from one team to another.

[clayj41]

did you go to UNC? not sure if you read the Kentucky thread at all today, but apparently that is a requirement for being a fan of a team. so says the all knowing Julie, anyways. :lol

You only requirement for being a UK fan is being an idiot!:p

[unccrombie]

You'll need to provide a valid explanation for being a Rangers fan or we're going to have to ask you to remove that avatar.
:lol two words: mark messier

[UNC41]

:lol two words: mark messier

What kind of personal relationship do you have with him?

[unccrombie]

What kind of personal relationship do you have with him?
he's my cousin

[UNC41]

he's my cousin

Fan status granted. :lol

[unccrombie]

Fan status granted. :lol
:lol thank you oh higher power

[ousooner]

he's my cousin
We'll need to see your family tree.

[UNLTrpt]

Fan status granted. :lol

yeah I'd say that's a pretty good relationship to grant him fan status.

[Bob Dylan]

To that Kansas on here. I told you you won a bunch in a row because you hadnt payed anyone. Nice games vs. Texas. I guess your thoughts of Freshman winning it all came back to reality real fast. Kansas didnt make the list below either

Also.

Wait just a minute! Where's Duke? The one that prepares his player for life outside of Puke. Guess 12 full time tutors ain't enough, huh?

NCAA Academic APR ratings: UNC bball Top 10%

Explained more here
www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!...index.html
www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!..._data.html

Lists of of schools and sports
http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academics_and_athletes/education_and_research/academic_reform/public_recognition_school.pdf

Here is basketball
Appalachian State University
Ball State University
Belmont University
Brigham Young University
Brown University
Coastal Carolina University
College of the Holy Cross
College of William and Mary
Columbia University-Barnard College
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Davidson College
Harvard University
Loyola Marymount University
Northwestern State University
Men's Basketball (cont.) Old Dominion University
Oral Roberts University
Princeton University
Rider University
Sacred Heart University
Saint Louis University
Samford University
Southern Methodist University
U.S. Air Force Academy
U.S. Naval Academy
University of Detroit Mercy
University of Illinois, Champaign
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina, Wilmington
University of Oregon
University of Pennsylvania
University of the Pacific
University of Toledo
Villanova University
Yale University

[Bob Dylan]

i agree. i just think the Duke loss tonite hurt most of the fighting chance they have. i'm pulling for it, but i just don't see it. good luck. :thumbsup


That is a dumb thought Puke already would have been fired up. Chance to go undefeated in the ACC, UNC, and also JJ and Williams last home game. A loss wasnt going to get them that much more fired up.

[ousooner]

That is a dumb thought Puke already would have been fired up. Chance to go undefeated in the ACC, UNC, and also JJ and Williams last home game. A loss wasnt going to get them that much more fired up.
You're certainly a friendly fellow. Glad to have you around :rolleyes

[Bob Dylan]

You're certainly a friendly fellow. Glad to have you around :rolleyes


Hey at least Oklahoma's Mens Cross County Team scored well in those statistics. That was there only sport.:shrug :shrug Should we be suprised.

Its not friendly, its honest what more did Puke need to get fired up.

[ousooner]

Hey at least Oklahoma's Mens Cross County Team scored well in those statistics. That was there only sport.:shrug :shrug Should we be suprised.

Its not friendly, its honest what more did Puke need to get fired up.
Looks like opinion more then truth to me. Maybe you should learn the difference between the two. And while I don't have the time to waste looking at that list, I'm sure there's a bunch of big time division one football programs and men's basketball programs on that list. Newsflash, college football and basketball players don't make the best grades.

[Bob Dylan]

Looks like opinion more then truth to me. Maybe you should learn the difference between the two. And while I don't have the time to waste looking at that list, I'm sure there's a bunch of big time division one football programs and men's basketball programs on that list. Newsflash, college football and basketball players don't make the best grades.


Newsflash programs like Miami and NC State and Oklahoma players dont make the grade. That is what makes CAROLINA so special

Learn the difference between what two?

[ousooner]

Newsflash programs like Miami and NC State and Oklahoma players dont make the grade. That is what makes CAROLINA so special

Learn the difference between what two?
Between what you call truth, and opinion. I couldn't give a damn about athletes grades. I see them for what they are, entertainers. I love sports and realize I would not enjoy life near as much without college sports. I'm a realist and understand that the majority of athletes aren't in college for an education and I'm ok with that. As long as they manage to stay elligible and out of trouble, that's all that counts.

[DMBfan41]

Couldn't get over to the game tonight cause of the snow.

But, in the NEC Quarterfinals, FDU defeats Quinnipiac 66-65!

Onto the semifinals where they'll host #5 Robert Morris on Sunday Night.

For those in the area, the game will either be on MSG or CN8

[Bob Dylan]

Between what you call truth, and opinion. I couldn't give a damn about athletes grades. I see them for what they are, entertainers. I love sports and realize I would not enjoy life near as much without college sports. I'm a realist and understand that the majority of athletes aren't in college for an education and I'm ok with that. As long as they manage to stay elligible and out of trouble, that's all that counts.


That is the Barry Switzer Oklahoma attitude. Only a small percentage of college athletes make a career out of athletics and it is very important that kids graduate and became something and develope the skills to have a career and make something of there life. See post 10598 (that is my first post ever in this thread) I reference Puke and making them into something after they graduate.

PRO ATHLETES are entertainers.

That is not an opinion on DOOK and UNC i witnessed enough of those rivalry games in person to know that a Puke lose doesnt get them anymore fired up.

[DMBfan41]

for those with the MSG network

Sunday, March 5th

4:00 PM #1 Fairleigh Dickinson vs #5 Robert Morris

GO KNIGHTS!

[ousooner]

That is the Barry Switzer Oklahoma attitude. Only a small percentage of college athletes make a career out of athletics and it is very important that kids graduate and became something and develope the skills to have a career and make something of there life. See post 10598 (that is my first post ever in this thread) I reference Puke and making them into something after they graduate.

PRO ATHLETES are entertainers.

That is not an opinion on DOOK and UNC i witnessed enough of those rivalry games in person to know that a Puke lose doesnt get them anymore fired up.
What does Barry Switzer have to do with this? That's my attitude. Do you really think Mack Brown cared about graduating players at UNC? I doubt it. All he cared about was not getting his ass kicked by FSU, again. I reference Mack because he's the only decent football coach UNC has ever had. All athletes that people pay to watch are entertainers. Sure preparing for life after sports is important if that's what they choose to do. I'd love to see every athlete make the best of their opportunities and be on the deans list every semester, but If they aren't, oh well. I think its a waste if they don't take advantage of their opportunities, but its their choice. Once again, it's your opninion that Duke's loss to FSU will not impact their performance Saturday night. Not fact, not truth, but your opinion. Regardless of how many Duke-NC games you've seen in person it makes no difference. It's still only your opinion.

[cityondown5]

I'm making an ants Yahoo! tournament pick 'em. Who's in?

ID: 3361
Pass: antsmarching

[Bob Dylan]

What does Barry Switzer have to do with this? That's my attitude. Do you really think Mack Brown cared about graduating players at UNC? I doubt it. All he cared about was not getting his ass kicked by FSU, again. I reference Mack because he's the only decent football coach UNC has ever had. All athletes that people pay to watch are entertainers. Sure preparing for life after sports is important if that's what they choose to do. I'd love to see every athlete make the best of their opportunities and be on the deans list every semester, but If they aren't, oh well. I think its a waste if they don't take advantage of their opportunities, but its their choice. Once again, it's your opninion that Duke's loss to FSU will not impact their performance Saturday night. Not fact, not truth, but your opinion. Regardless of how many Duke-NC games you've seen in person it makes no difference. It's still only your opinion.


He resigned in 1989 after the program was placed on probation, and five players had been arrested on drug, weapons and sex charges. The probation was for 3 years and Im not sure if even one of his players graduated or knew how to read. Some of them admitted in public they couldnt read. What a great legacy to leave and you must be so proud of your OU history.

Your football reference is meaning less I never said UNC had a great football program but hey at least 3 got super bowl rings with the Steelers and one made the pro bowl. Atleast our girls bball is #1, men are #13 and baseball team is #2.

[twosteppn36]

this is awesome

[ousooner]

He resigned in 1989 after the program was placed on probation, and five players had been arrested on drug, weapons and sex charges. The probation was for 3 years and Im not sure if even one of his players graduated or knew how to read. Some of them admitted in public they couldnt read. What a great legacy to leave and you must be so proud of your OU history.

Your football reference is meaning less I never said UNC had a great football program but hey at least 3 got super bowl rings with the Steelers and one made the pro bowl. Atleast our girls bball is #1, men are #13 and baseball team is #2.
You sound just like someone else on this board. I think the two of you would be perfect for each other. Here, let me introduce you to her:

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4040278&postcount=1028

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151803&page=35

[Bob Dylan]

this is awesome


I think the Bubble burst for SU tonight. Those FSU and A&M wins hurt SU yesterday because I think now FSU and Texas A&M are in and SU is out.

On the other hand beat Villinova or make a deep run in the Big East tourney your right back on it.

[Bob Dylan]

You sound just like someone else on this board. I think the two of you would be perfect for each other. Here, let me introduce you to her:

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4040278&postcount=1028

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151803&page=35


Im not sure the purpose of those threads.

I assume you were lost for answers.

[twosteppn36]

On the other hand beat Villinova or make a deep run in the Big East tourney your right back on it.


thats what im thinking....getting blown out like this doesnt help though

[ousooner]

Im not sure the purpose of those threads.

I assume you were lost for answers.
No, I just didn't like the direction of the conversation. I'm not going to argue with you about how great NC is or how bad or dirty OU is. You go ahead and judge a program by their work in the classroom and I'll continue to judge them by their work on the field or the court.

[seekupig]

That is a dumb thought Puke already would have been fired up. Chance to go undefeated in the ACC, UNC, and also JJ and Williams last home game. A loss wasnt going to get them that much more fired up.

if you don't think losing gets somebody motivated, then you've not watched a lot of sports. you talking to me about college basketball is like me telling you tour dates in advance.

[HolyCow]

You sound just like someone else on this board. I think the two of you would be perfect for each other. Here, let me introduce you to her:

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4040278&postcount=1028

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151803&page=35

And their bastard offspring named "Live 1966!"

Seriously Bob Dylan, give it up. No matter what school kids are at, they cruise through. It is the way it is and the way it will always be. Some schools try to be strict about it, but we all know dang well that half of OU's football team and half of UNC's basketball team would not be in school period if not for their athletic ability. They may have made it in a juco college, but they would have never met the requirements to get into a Division I school.

[Bob Dylan]

No, I just didn't like the direction of the conversation. I'm not going to argue with you about how great NC is or how bad or dirty OU is. You go ahead and judge a program by their work in the classroom and I'll continue to judge them by their work on the field or the court.


Please judge us in the classroom and on the field/court we have nothing to hide or infractions.

[seekupig]

And their bastard offspring named "Live 1966!"

Seriously Bob Dylan, give it up. No matter what school kids are at, they cruise through. It is the way it is and the way it will always be. Some schools try to be strict about it, but we all know dang well that half of OU's football team and half of UNC's basketball team would not be in school period if not for their athletic ability. They may have made it in a juco college, but they would have never met the requirements to get into a Division I school.

:thumbsup

the NCAA could get violations on any school if they looked hard enough.

anyone know how to get a "cheap" one year lease on a brand new car? play basketball at UNC and stop by Michael Jordan Nissan. every school does it, i'm not knocking UNC ( i just happen to hear more about the local schools). but let's not pick out certain programs and act as if everyone else is clean.

[Bob Dylan]

if you don't think losing gets somebody motivated, then you've not watched a lot of sports. you talking to me about college basketball is like me telling you tour dates in advance.

Duke does not need a loss to get fired up for a game when they are 9 miles apart, kids have been camping out since last weekend, a point in the carlyle cup is on the line, its senior night last game for many Dookies - Williams, JJ, McRoberts, Duke would have been playing for an undefeated regular season - now they are playing for a #1 seed. They dont need a loss to get them motivated.

[ousooner]

Please judge us in the classroom and on the field/court we have nothing to hide or infractions.
Well, I guess you're just better then the rest of us then.

[seekupig]

Please judge us in the classroom and on the field/court we have nothing to hide or infractions.

how many college degree's does the 2005 National Championship team have? ;)

i see your point... to an extent..... but to quote one of my favorite sports movies ( The Program ).....

Chairman - "this is not a football vocational school. this is an institute for higher learning."

Coach - "yeah, but when was the last time 80,000 people showed up to watch a kid do a damn chemistry experiment?"

[ousooner]

Duke does not need a loss to get fired up for a game when they are 9 miles apart, kids have been camping out since last weekend, a point in the carlyle cup is on the line, its senior night last game for many Dookies - Williams, JJ, McRoberts, Duke would have been playing for an undefeated regular season - now they are playing for a #1 seed. They dont need a loss to get them motivated.
Oh, I didn't know the kids were camping out. What more motivation does the team need? The kids are camping out.

[HolyCow]

:thumbsup

the NCAA could get violations on any school if they looked hard enough.

anyone know how to get a "cheap" one year lease on a brand new car? play basketball at UNC and stop by Michael Jordan Nissan. every school does it, i'm not knocking UNC ( i just happen to hear more about the local schools). but let's not pick out certain programs and act as if everyone else is clean.

:thumbsup Amen my man.


No one seems to want to talk about it in the mainsteam media, but does anyone else find it curious that Vince Young scores a 6 on the Wonderlic, the easiest test in world, but yet somehow he made it through 3 years of college? Is that weird to anyone else?

[Bob Dylan]

:thumbsup

the NCAA could get violations on any school if they looked hard enough.

anyone know how to get a "cheap" one year lease on a brand new car? play basketball at UNC and stop by Michael Jordan Nissan. every school does it, i'm not knocking UNC ( i just happen to hear more about the local schools). but let's not pick out certain programs and act as if everyone else is clean.


Please who did you hear that from your Raleigh tractor pulling buddies from the STATE university. Just like Coach K brought kids in from alaska and gave there families houses and cars and jobs in teh Triangle. Wes Miller on Carolina has more money then any of us. Do some research of Wake Forest University and some of the athletic buildings on his campus are named after his family. Psycho Tylers Dad and Grandfather are Drs.

And of course they would give Felton, May and McCants a car just like Lebron got on. They arent going to default on there loan adn the bank knows they can easily get the money.


Kansas is a clean school. So is UNC (I mean we only took Dean Smith and Roy from ya).

Oklahoma on the other hand.:shrug :shrug :shrug

[ousooner]

how many college degree's does the 2005 National Championship team have? ;)

i see your point... to an extent..... but to quote one of my favorite sports movies ( The Program ).....

Chairman - "this is not a football vocational school. this is an institute for higher learning."

Coach - "yeah, but when was the last time 80,000 people showed up to watch a kid do a damn chemistry experiment?"
Exactly! Regardless of what anyone says, nobody really cares how athletes perform in the classroom as long as they stay eligible. Usually, only fans of schools that never win anything make a bid deal about it. Bob being one of the few exceptions.

[cityondown5]

I'm making an ants Yahoo! tournament pick 'em. Who's in?

ID: 3361
Pass: antsmarching

Bumping my own post :o

[Bob Dylan]

:thumbsup Amen my man.


No one seems to want to talk about it in the mainsteam media, but does anyone else find it curious that Vince Young scores a 6 on the Wonderlic, the easiest test in world, but yet somehow he made it through 3 years of college? Is that weird to anyone else?


Vince Young went to Texas.

Not UNC, Kansas or Vanderbuilt who has standards for there student athletes.

[seekupig]

Please who did you hear that from your Raleigh tractor pulling buddies from the STATE university.

stereotype much?

[ousooner]

Please who did you hear that from your Raleigh tractor pulling buddies from the STATE university. Just like Coach K brought kids in from alaska and gave there families houses and cars and jobs in teh Triangle. Wes Miller on Carolina has more money then any of us. Do some research of Wake Forest University and some of the athletic buildings on his campus are named after his family. Psycho Tylers Dad and Grandfather are Drs.

And of course they would give Felton, May and McCants a car just like Lebron got on. They arent going to default on there loan adn the bank knows they can easily get the money.


Kansas is a clean school. So is UNC (I mean we only took Dean Smith and Roy from ya).

Oklahoma on the other hand.:shrug :shrug :shrug
Kansas is clean, really? I remember Kansas basketball being put on probation about the same time OU football was. Not to mention right after they won a national championship and Larry Brown left town. Sorry Dustin, it's nothing personal.

[Bob Dylan]

Exactly! Regardless of what anyone says, nobody really cares how athletes perform in the classroom as long as they stay eligible. Usually, only fans of schools that never win anything make a bid deal about it. Bob being one of the few exceptions.


Ya McCants went to school through the summer to get his Degree and May and Felton are working on theres.

Jamison, Carter and Stackhouse all left early and came back to graduate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alumni_from_University_of_North_Carolina_a t_Chapel_Hill

[seekupig]

Bumping my own post :o

i'm in. i'll sign up later...

[Bob Dylan]

stereotype much?


Um ya it is the dumb ass STATE university.

[HolyCow]

Please who did you hear that from your Raleigh tractor pulling buddies from the STATE university. Just like Coach K brought kids in from alaska and gave there families houses and cars and jobs in teh Triangle. Wes Miller on Carolina has more money then any of us. Do some research of Wake Forest University and some of the athletic buildings on his campus are named after his family. Psycho Tylers Dad and Grandfather are Drs.

And of course they would give Felton, May and McCants a car just like Lebron got on. They arent going to default on there loan adn the bank knows they can easily get the money.


Kansas is a clean school. So is UNC (I mean we only took Dean Smith and Roy from ya).

Oklahoma on the other hand.:shrug :shrug :shrug

Dude, go drown yourself. Normally people don't get under my skin like this, but you have hit a nerve. Quit acting like UNC is some clean school that brings kids in and sends them on their way and they all go to class and they all make straight A's.

Remember that guy Matt Doherty? You think UNC were little angels under him? Just wait for a Crazy to come in here with all the dirt they have pulled up on things Roy Boy and the Dean have done. You really think, really, that Rashard McCants passed all of his classes legit?

You really think Rasheed Wallace was a good student? I am up close and personal with the OU basketball program and I see the cars the guys drive. I get no impression of any foul play going on here. Taj Gray rolls around in like a 98 Taurus. Terrell Everett has an old Explorer. Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it.

Lastly, go screw yourself and never come back to this thread.

[HolyCow]

Vanderbuilt

Irony is a beautiful thing.

[ousooner]

Ya McCants went to school through the summer to get his Degree and May and Felton are working on theres.

Jamison, Carter and Stackhouse all left early and came back to graduate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alumni_from_University_of_North_Carolina_a t_Chapel_Hill
What is your point? You act like NC is the only place in the world these things happen. I'm sure players from schools all over the country go back for their degrees. I'm sure players who don't make it to the pros stay in school after their eligibility is up to get their degrees. These things are just going on at NC. What makes you think NC is so elite?

[seekupig]

Kansas is clean, really? I remember Kansas basketball being put on probation about the same time OU football was. Not to mention right after they won a national championship and Larry Brown left town. Sorry Dustin, it's nothing personal.

i know Larry was dirty. Danny Manning went to high school in Greensboro, NC. he had commited to NC State, then changed to UNC then all of a sudden he was a senior in high school at Lawrence Senior High..... and his dad was an assistant coach at KU. that was dirty.

[ousooner]

Irony is a beautiful thing.
Vanderbuilt :lol

[seekupig]

Um ya it is the dumb ass STATE university.

posts like this make me wish tour dates hadn't been announced yet.

[HolyCow]

What is your point? You act like NC is the only place in the world these things happen. I'm sure players from schools all over the country go back for their degrees. I'm sure players who don't make it to the pros stay in school after their eligibility is up to get their degrees. These things are just going on at NC. What makes you think NC is so elite?
For instance, I know for a fact that Jason Williams (OU player from last year's team, looks like Donovan McNabb) is still in school trying to get his degree. I know this because he plays on the women's scout team with me.

[ousooner]

i know Larry was dirty. Danny Manning went to high school in Greensboro, NC. he had commited to NC State, then changed to UNC then all of a sudden he was a senior in high school at Lawrence Senior High..... and his dad was an assistant coach at KU. that was dirty.
Similar situation recently with Chalmers too. Maybe not as dirty as Danny Manning's deal though.

[Bob Dylan]

Dude, go drown yourself. Normally people don't get under my skin like this, but you have hit a nerve. Quit acting like UNC is some clean school that brings kids in and sends them on their way and they all go to class and they all make straight A's.

Remember that guy Matt Doherty? You think UNC were little angels under him? Just wait for a Crazy to come in here with all the dirt they have pulled up on things Roy Boy and the Dean have done. You really think, really, that Rashard McCants passed all of his classes legit?

You really think Rasheed Wallace was a good student? I am up close and personal with the OU basketball program and I see the cars the guys drive. I get no impression of any foul play going on here. Taj Gray rolls around in like a 98 Taurus. Terrell Everett has an old Explorer. Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it.

Lastly, go screw yourself and never come back to this thread.


Um Doherty is gone and did nothing wrong. The athletes didnt like his way of coaching(May's dad and McCants Dad mostly) and the university acted upon it. One problem was discipline. You may be up close and personal with teh OU team but how do you know what Dookies, UNC or for that matter any teams players drive.

[d+ter]

Bumping my own post :o
i just joined.

[Bob Dylan]

What is your point? You act like NC is the only place in the world these things happen. I'm sure players from schools all over the country go back for their degrees. I'm sure players who don't make it to the pros stay in school after their eligibility is up to get their degrees. These things are just going on at NC. What makes you think NC is so elite?


They do but not OU. You cannot admit any wrong in your program.

[ousooner]

Bumping my own post :o
I'll win, I mean, I'm in :D

[d+ter]

Taj Gray rolls around in like a 98 Taurus.

so does my fiance. and she doesn't even play basketball! :haha

[HolyCow]

They do but not OU. You cannot admit any wrong in your program.

Did you not read what I said, or did your UNC education make you too stupid to comprehend it?

Go back and read what I said. Lots of OU players stay in school and graduate. And what I meant about OU is for you to shut up about OU because YOU have no idea what you are talking about. I can't really speak for other schools but I can for OU and you have no clue what you are talking about.

You are living in a blind world though if you really think that UNC and KU are the only "clean" schools in the country.

[ousooner]

They do but not OU. You cannot admit any wrong in your program.
You're something else. Now your an expert on who's enrolled at school and graduating from OU. You know for a fact that guys don't go back to school or stay in school and graduate at OU? And when did I ever say OU has done no wrong?

[Bob Dylan]

Dude, go drown yourself. Normally people don't get under my skin like this, but you have hit a nerve. Quit acting like UNC is some clean school that brings kids in and sends them on their way and they all go to class and they all make straight A's.

Remember that guy Matt Doherty? You think UNC were little angels under him? Just wait for a Crazy to come in here with all the dirt they have pulled up on things Roy Boy and the Dean have done. You really think, really, that Rashard McCants passed all of his classes legit?

You really think Rasheed Wallace was a good student? I am up close and personal with the OU basketball program and I see the cars the guys drive. I get no impression of any foul play going on here. Taj Gray rolls around in like a 98 Taurus. Terrell Everett has an old Explorer. Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it.

Lastly, go screw yourself and never come back to this thread.


Ya Rasheed and Joe Forte were only a few of UNC basketball players who left early that didnt graduate. However Rasheed is very succesful in his pro career.

[seekupig]

Similar situation recently with Chalmers too. Maybe not as dirty as Danny Manning's deal though.

my dad lives in Anchorage and knew them pretty well. it looks bad on the surface, but it's not dirty. he was being looked at by KU since last time they played in the Great Alaskan Shootout. i don't remember all of the details, but it's nothing like what it appears to be.

[seekupig]

in basketball related news, Memphis lost tonite.

what does that do to their seeding?

[Bob Dylan]

Did you not read what I said, or did your UNC education make you too stupid to comprehend it?

Go back and read what I said. Lots of OU players stay in school and graduate. And what I meant about OU is for you to shut up about OU because YOU have no idea what you are talking about. I can't really speak for other schools but I can for OU and you have no clue what you are talking about.

You are living in a blind world though if you really think that UNC and KU are the only "clean" schools in the country.


There are more then just KU and UNC....I hate Duke and PSU with a passion but they dont have a history. I hate PSU more then anything.

[HolyCow]

Ya Rasheed and Joe Forte were only a few of UNC basketball players who left early that didnt graduate. However Rasheed is very succesful in his pro career.

And that is what really matters. :rolleyes

Like I said earlier, I can give you one example for sure of an OU player staying around to graduate.

Every school does something that is "dirty." It is just the name of the game. Deal with it.

[HolyCow]

in basketball related news, Memphis lost tonite.

what does that do to their seeding?

Personally, I would drop them to a 3. They haven't played anyone, and really and truly haven't beat anyone. The number one thing they hang their hat on is that they played Duke really close.

They play in the worst conference in the world and UAB is one of the few decent teams they have played recently and they lost. Maybe even a 4, but that is a bit bold.

[Bob Dylan]

And that is what really matters. :rolleyes

Like I said earlier, I can give you one example for sure of an OU player staying around to graduate.

Every school does something that is "dirty." It is just the name of the game. Deal with it.


You cannot find one on UNC and its not the name of the game. Some schools play by the rules others dont and by you saying this shows your OKLAHOMA BARRY SWITZER ill do whatever it takes to win attitude.

[unccrombie]

in basketball related news, Memphis lost tonite.

what does that do to their seeding?
i never thought them and texas were #1 seeds in the first place, but probably not too much, maybe it drops them to the 4th #1

[HolyCow]

You cannot find one on UNC and its not the name of the game. Some schools play by the rules others dont and by you saying this shows your OKLAHOMA BARRY SWITZER ill do whatever it takes to win attitude.

I am no longer responding to anything you say.

There is an old saying, "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you to their level and beat you with experiance."

[ousooner]

in basketball related news, Memphis lost tonite.

what does that do to their seeding?
I can't really say until I see what their grades look like for this semester. If they are averaging a 3.5 gpa or better I think you still have to give them the 1 seed. We should know after midterms.

[seekupig]

i never thought them and texas were #1 seeds in the first place, but probably not too much, maybe it drops them to the 4th #1

i think they'll use this as an excuse to drop them to a #2. their conference will keep them from being a #1. someone else is going to have to step up and take the #1 or Memphis will get it by default.

[HolyCow]

I can't really say until I see what their grades look like for this semester. If they are averaging a 3.5 gpa or better I think you still have to give them the 1 seed. We should know after midterms.

:lol :lol :lol

[d+ter]

Personally, I would drop them to a 3. They haven't played anyone, and really and truly haven't beat anyone. The number one thing they hang their hat on is that they played Duke really close.

They play in the worst conference in the world and UAB is one of the few decent teams they have played recently and they lost. Maybe even a 4, but that is a bit bold.
i'll go with you on that. memphis and texas are over-rated. big time.

[unccrombie]

i think they'll use this as an excuse to drop them to a #2. their conference will keep them from being a #1. someone else is going to have to step up and take the #1 or Memphis will get it by default.
haha oops. thought there were 2 spots. move up the zags for memphis if anything

[Bob Dylan]

Not sure if you all saw this after they put Redeyes on the cover and they lost to FSU I think it came out yesterday.

They did a poll of players from all the main conferences, here's some interesting results from the ACC:

Opposing coach you'd least like to play for - Herb Sendek
Opposing coach you'd most like to play for - Roy Williams
Biggest crybaby - JJ Redick
Best future pro - Tyler Hansbrough

There is the cover
http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2006/0306_large.jpg

[clayj41]

Not sure if you all saw this after they put Redeyes on the cover and they lost to FSU I think it came out yesterday.

They did a poll of players from all the main conferences, here's some interesting results from the ACC:

Opposing coach you'd least like to play for - Herb Sendek
Opposing coach you'd most like to play for - Roy Williams
Biggest crybaby - JJ Redick
Best future pro - Tyler Hansbrough

There is the cover
http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2006/0306_large.jpg

That all sounds about right!

[UNC41]

Remember that guy Matt Doherty? You think UNC were little angels under him? Just wait for a Crazy to come in here with all the dirt they have pulled up on things Roy Boy and the Dean have done. You really think, really, that Rashard McCants passed all of his classes legit?

You really think Rasheed Wallace was a good student? I am up close and personal with the OU basketball program and I see the cars the guys drive. I get no impression of any foul play going on here. Taj Gray rolls around in like a 98 Taurus. Terrell Everett has an old Explorer. Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it.

Lastly, go screw yourself and never come back to this thread.

You know what, I respect that you can defend the Oklahoma program. However, it is aboslute bullshit that you claim anyone at Carolina hasn't done anything the right way. You say, "Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it." Well, don't talk against another University without knowing anything. Calling out McCants or Wallace makes you look really hypocritical after saying no one should call out an OU player without having first hand knowledge.

[Bob Dylan]

:thumbsup You know what, I respect that you can defend the Oklahoma program. However, it is aboslute bullshit that you claim anyone at Carolina hasn't done anything the right way. You say, "Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it." Well, don't talk against another University without knowing anything. Calling out McCants or Wallace makes you look really hypocritical after saying no one should call out an OU player without having first hand knowledge.


:thumbsup

Are you Byron Sanders?

[SteelerMan]

in basketball related news, Memphis lost tonite.

what does that do to their seeding?

If Memphis wins their conference tournament, I don't think it does anything. They should still get a #1 seed. If they screw up in the tournament, I actually think Gonzaga could take their #1 seed if they win out.

[SteelerMan]

Opposing coach you'd least like to play for - Herb Sendek

What's with the hate for Herb Sendek? I don't know much about him, but he seems like a decent coach.

[carlac135]

No, I just didn't like the direction of the conversation. I'm not going to argue with you about how great NC is or how bad or dirty OU is. You go ahead and judge a program by their work in the classroom and I'll continue to judge them by their work on the field or the court.


Well that really isn't a good approach to have..yeah college athletics is really great entertainment but let's emphasize the key word here...college--these kids are here for two reasons--1-to get and education and 2-to play a sport they excel at and hopefully advance their career...UNC has an upstanding academic-athletic program and tend to graduate almost 100% of their players--and players that don't graduate either come back for their degree or leave with a good education so if there "entertaining" pro careers fail they have something to fall back on.

[carlac135]

What's with the hate for Herb Sendek? I don't know much about him, but he seems like a decent coach.


did you happen to see the boston college game--live or die by the three--that is herbie's attitude

[Third Floor]

http://sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9278908

[Third Floor]

What's with the hate for Herb Sendek? I don't know much about him, but he seems like a decent coach.
he sucks. and hodge sucks.

[SteelerMan]

http://sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9278908

:thumbsup

I made this same argument a few weeks ago when people were comparing him to Morrison.

[seekupig]

he sucks. and hodge sucks.

how's Skip doing these days?

[Third Floor]

skips still the man.

[HolyCow]

You know what, I respect that you can defend the Oklahoma program. However, it is aboslute bullshit that you claim anyone at Carolina hasn't done anything the right way. You say, "Don't talk about my University without knowing a freakin' single thing about it." Well, don't talk against another University without knowing anything. Calling out McCants or Wallace makes you look really hypocritical after saying no one should call out an OU player without having first hand knowledge.

The only thing I defended about the OU program was kids getting big gifts like cars and such. I am pretty sure some of their teachers are pretty lax on their grades.

Everywhere is. It is just the facts. No one can truly believe that their school does not give preferential treatment to athletes.

[seekupig]

skips still the man.

:lol :lol :lol

[41ravens]

what the hell is going on with the upsets this week? does anyone else think memphis may have played themself out of a #1 seed last night?

[clayj41]

If Memphis wins their conference tournament, I don't think it does anything. They should still get a #1 seed. If they screw up in the tournament, I actually think Gonzaga could take their #1 seed if they win out.

:thumbsup That's what I'm thinking. If they win the conference tournament then.....no surprise, they're a #1. If they don't, I think Gonzaga takes it. I think Ohio St. should be considered as well depending on how they do in the Big Ten tourney.

[clayj41]

what the hell is going on with the upsets this week? does anyone else think memphis may have played themself out of a #1 seed last night?

Not if they win out.

[seekupig]

Not if they win out.


they'll need Gonzaga to lose one to get it back. i think it's between those two at this point.

new bracketolgy came out yesterday (before Memphis lost) and the Zags are a #2.

some other interesting matchups as well....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

[clayj41]

Good to see UNC as a #3. Hell, they could be a #1 after they beat Duke 2 more times this year.:D

[jermtheworm]

I think Mich St could put it together to make a run in the tourney. Shannon Brown is a stud.

[clayj41]

I think Mich St could put it together to make a run in the tourney. Shannon Brown is a stud.

They struggled a little last year, but still made a run to the Final Four. They're still a dangerous team.

[Third Floor]

Good to see UNC as a #3. Hell, they could be a #1 after they beat Duke 2 more times this year.:D

they only face them one more time. duke's not winning a game in the acc tourney.


ps. skip's still the man.

[41ravens]

the big ten is anyone's tourney as of right now. that's gonna be a fun one to watch.

[41ravens]

they'll need Gonzaga to lose one to get it back. i think it's between those two at this point.

new bracketolgy came out yesterday (before Memphis lost) and the Zags are a #2.

some other interesting matchups as well....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

zona at a 9. i'll take it. if they win the pac-10 (which is unlikely, but i can dream), i'm sure that'll boost them to at least a 6. they have an rpi of 19 and an sos of like 4, or something to that effect.

[HolyCow]

You know something I don't understand about the Big 10?

As of last night before they beat Wisconsin, Mich. St was 7-7 in conference and no one had talked about them being a bubble team. They are still in the top 25 and actually Indiana had, (now they are tied) a better conference record.

Just a little odd.

[HolyCow]

they'll need Gonzaga to lose one to get it back. i think it's between those two at this point.


:thumbsup right.

As of today, my number ones are:

1. Duke
2. UCONN
3. Nova
4. Gonzaga

But, if Texas beats the Sooners saturday and wins the Big XII tourney, I think they get the #1 over Gonzaga.

[41ravens]

after they beat indiana back in feb., mich st. went on to beat ohio st. and iowa, who were both ranked at the time. indiana went on to have a 5 game losing streak.

edit: this was a reply to your other post, royce.

[41ravens]

:thumbsup right.

As of today, my number ones are:

1. Duke
2. UCONN
3. Nova
4. Gonzaga

But, if Texas beats the Sooners saturday and wins the Big XII tourney, I think they get the #1 over Gonzaga.

i agree 100%. but i don't think the longhorns can do it. and the zags have to win their conference tourney, which they should do with no problem.

[clayj41]

they only face them one more time. duke's not winning a game in the acc tourney.


ps. skip's still the man.

:thumbsup I like the way you think!

[HolyCow]

after they beat indiana back in feb., mich st. went on to beat ohio st. and iowa, who were both ranked at the time. indiana went on to have a 5 game losing streak.

edit: this was a reply to your other post, royce.

That makes pretty good sense I guess.

If they would have lost last night, I think there would be some serious discussion about them making it.

And I agree that the Shorthorns won't do it. I also agree that the Zags will win out.

[41ravens]

i think if memphis wins the c-usa, it'll be close between them and zaga. but i think losing last night might have ended their chances at a #1.

[clayj41]

after they beat indiana back in feb., mich st. went on to beat ohio st. and iowa, who were both ranked at the time. indiana went on to have a 5 game losing streak.

edit: this was a reply to your other post, royce.

:thumbsup IU was #8 at that time as well. Not to mention they beat then ranked Arizona earlier in the season and BC. Plus that tough loss triple OT loss to the Zags.

[UNC41]

:thumbsup right.

As of today, my number ones are:

1. Duke
2. UCONN
3. Nova
4. Gonzaga

But, if Texas beats the Sooners saturday and wins the Big XII tourney, I think they get the #1 over Gonzaga.

Flip Duke and UConn around and there yo go.

[ousooner]

new bracketolgy came out yesterday
How can LSU be a #2 ahead of texas?

[clayj41]

Flip Duke and UConn around and there yo go.

:thumbsup

[HolyCow]

How can LSU be a #2 ahead of texas?

I don't understand everyone's fascination with them. I really don't understand the SEC at all really.

As crazy as it sounds, Kentucky may wind up being the best team and win the conference tourney.

EDIT: And why the F is OU a 7 and falling? Joe Lunardi is a douche.

[SteelerMan]

I don't understand everyone's fascination with them. I really don't understand the SEC at all really.

As crazy as it sounds, Kentucky may wind up being the best team and win the conference tourney.

LSU beat Kentucky less than a week ago. They're also on a 5 game winning streak and are the top team in the SEC. Meanwhile, a two point win over Tennessee and a four point win over West Virginia in November are Kentucky's only two quality wins. They're also 4-4 in their last eight games. There's no way Kentucky is the best team in the SEC.

[rconverse]

Is ESPN over-covering this Saturday's Duke - UNC game?
Does the game lose luster due to Duke's loss to FSU?
Does anyone get ESPN U?
If Duke wins, to they remain the overall number 1 spot?
Predictions?

[unccrombie]

Is ESPN over-covering this Saturday's Duke - UNC game?
Does the game lose luster due to Duke's loss to FSU?
Does anyone get ESPN U?
If Duke wins, to they remain the overall number 1 spot?
Predictions?
no way
no way
wish i did
no they dont
duke by 10

;)

[SteelerMan]

Is ESPN over-covering this Saturday's Duke - UNC game?
Does the game lose luster due to Duke's loss to FSU?
Does anyone get ESPN U?
If Duke wins, to they remain the overall number 1 spot?
Predictions?

Sort of.
UNC is no longer preventing Duke from going undefeated in the ACC, so yes... but only slightly.
No.
I don't think Duke is the overall #1 after their loss to FSU... it has to be UConn. Duke hasn't been that impressive lately really.
Duke by 3.

[seekupig]

no way
no way
wish i did
no they dont
duke by 10

;)

:thumbsup
:thumbsup
:thumbsup
:thumbsup
Duke by 6

[clayj41]

No
No
Yes
No, UConn
UNC by 50!:D

[nhl123_2000]

Campus is getting ready for the game. Tomorrow is going to be a LONG day waiting for the 9pm tipoff. GO HEELS!

Answers to above:
Not overcovered
Don't get ESPN U
Dook cannot be overall 1 after this week.
Unc by 6

[Bob Dylan]

Terrible story out of UNC. Even if yuo dont like them you all should pray for these kids. Anyone familiar with the area it had to have been done on purpose. There is no way to get a car there unless you do it on purpose.

www.dailytarheel.com/

A silver Jeep Cherokee careened through the Pit on Friday about noon, striking more than 10 pedestrians. The driver, who is in custody at the Department of Public Safety and who turned himself in after the incident, was identified as Mohammed Reza Taheriazar, 23, who graduated in 2005. He was born May 5, 1983, according to University registrar records.

[41ravens]

Terrible story out of UNC. Even if yuo dont like them you all should pray for these kids. Anyone familiar with the area it had to have been done on purpose. There is no way to get a car there unless you do it on purpose.

www.dailytarheel.com/

A silver Jeep Cherokee careened through the Pit on Friday about noon, striking more than 10 pedestrians. The driver, who is in custody at the Department of Public Safety and who turned himself in after the incident, was identified as Mohammed Reza Taheriazar, 23, who graduated in 2005. He was born May 5, 1983, according to University registrar records.

that's pretty fucked up.

[seekupig]

Terrible story out of UNC. Even if yuo dont like them you all should pray for these kids. Anyone familiar with the area it had to have been done on purpose. There is no way to get a car there unless you do it on purpose.

www.dailytarheel.com/ (http://www.dailytarheel.com/)

A silver Jeep Cherokee careened through the Pit on Friday about noon, striking more than 10 pedestrians. The driver, who is in custody at the Department of Public Safety and who turned himself in after the incident, was identified as Mohammed Reza Taheriazar, 23, who graduated in 2005. He was born May 5, 1983, according to University registrar records.

that sucks.

first you have those two kids falling out of a third story window in the dorms, now this. :(

[nhl123_2000]

Yea - I didn't really want to bring this into the thread but campus has been kinda solemn today.

My friend was one of those injured but thankfully she's ok just a wrist injury

[Bob Dylan]

Yea - I didn't really want to bring this into the thread but campus has been kinda solemn today.

My friend was one of those injured but thankfully she's ok just a wrist injury


What do you know of this?

A bomb threat was called into the University Commons apartments at about 2 p.m. Though not confirmed, preliminary word is that the incidents are related. The police just came up and kicked everyone out in the community they got a new neighbor about 2 weeks ago and he drove a jeep for the past few days that matched the description of the one that went through the pit. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the connection is, if any.

This is all 3rd hand.

[nhl123_2000]

That's what our school paper is reporting as well:

At about 2 p.m. a bomb threat was called into the University Commons apartments, at 303 Smith Level Road, where Taheri-Azar lived. State Bureau of Investigations officials entered the building at 3:03 p.m.

Chapel Hill police spokeswoman Jane Cousins said a Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar has a prior arrest. He was arrested June 16, 2003 on one count of resisting arrest and reckless driving.

[seekupig]

What do you know of this?

A bomb threat was called into the University Commons apartments at about 2 p.m. Though not confirmed, preliminary word is that the incidents are related. The police just came up and kicked everyone out in the community they got a new neighbor about 2 weeks ago and he drove a jeep for the past few days that matched the description of the one that went through the pit. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the connection is, if any.

This is all 3rd hand.

wierd. i'm not a big fan of profiling, but his name raises a few questions....

either that or he's a closet Duke fan.

[nhl123_2000]

Initially there were words that this was a dook related accident. Tensions get very high around game days.

[Bob Dylan]

wierd. i'm not a big fan of profiling, but his name raises a few questions....

either that or he's a closet Duke fan.


His name raised questions with me as well. This is the day and age we live in. I had in my post but edited it a terriorist connection? So you are not the only one thinking that.

And then there was this with the DES Center (Dean E. Smith Center)...

http://www.newsobserver.com/264/story/409896.html

[nhl123_2000]

Yep - is anyone else in here a tarheel? I didn't think there were any others on Ants?

[Bob Dylan]

Yep - is anyone else in here a tarheel? I didn't think there were any others on Ants?


There was a kid who was in the 2006 rumored tour date thread.

onesweetworld15 is the user name. he gets into it big time.

[chiznaz]

LSU beat Kentucky less than a week ago. They're also on a 5 game winning streak and are the top team in the SEC. Meanwhile, a two point win over Tennessee and a four point win over West Virginia in November are Kentucky's only two quality wins. They're also 4-4 in their last eight games. There's no way Kentucky is the best team in the SEC.

I've watched LSU a couple of times and have been impressed with them too. That Davis guy is a onster and is very quick for his size. They're one of those teams who's getting better and the perfect time in the season.

Edit: Also a lot of people are down on Texas right now, but be careful. Texas is a team that can be deadly in the tourny if they get it together and regroup. I wasn't sold on Aldridge until I saw him play on Wed. He got doubled and tripled by A&M all night, but he has some sound post skills and uses his body to every advantage. If Texas feeds it to him more, I think they are a much better team. The have 2 awesome outside shooters with Abrahams and Gibson, and Tucker can slash and get to the basket. The only knock on them I have is that they aren't that deep, however you can get away with that in college if you don't get in foul trouble./

[HolyCow]

I've watched LSU a couple of times and have been impressed with them too. That Davis guy is a onster and is very quick for his size. They're one of those teams who's getting better and the perfect time in the season.

Edit: Also a lot of people are down on Texas right now, but be careful. Texas is a team that can be deadly in the tourny if they get it together and regroup. I wasn't sold on Aldridge until I saw him play on Wed. He got doubled and tripled by A&M all night, but he has some sound post skills and uses his body to every advantage. If Texas feeds it to him more, I think they are a much better team. The have 2 awesome outside shooters with Abrahams and Gibson, and Tucker can slash and get to the basket. The only knock on them I have is that they aren't that deep, however you can get away with that in college if you don't get in foul trouble./

:thumbsup Aldridge is good.

I just don't think LSU is a two seed. That is too high.

[gbs3769]

this is awesome
Yeah. The 'Cuse totally killed our fun last night.

Kristen and I had a great time at the Coldplay/Fiona concert and then we got out and got a text message telling us that 'Cuse was down by 39. We thought it was a joke until we saw it on a TV at a bar. Worst buzzkill ever.

- Primo

[41ravens]

sorry about cuse, primo.

[clayj41]

Yep - is anyone else in here a tarheel? I didn't think there were any others on Ants?

I might attend law school at UNC. :multi

[clayj41]

Terrible story out of UNC. Even if yuo dont like them you all should pray for these kids. Anyone familiar with the area it had to have been done on purpose. There is no way to get a car there unless you do it on purpose.

www.dailytarheel.com/

A silver Jeep Cherokee careened through the Pit on Friday about noon, striking more than 10 pedestrians. The driver, who is in custody at the Department of Public Safety and who turned himself in after the incident, was identified as Mohammed Reza Taheriazar, 23, who graduated in 2005. He was born May 5, 1983, according to University registrar records.

That's horrible!:(

[chiznaz]

:thumbsup Aldridge is good.

I just don't think LSU is a two seed. That is too high.

Yeah I agree that a 2 seed