Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

He either walked or it was a 10 second violation. But there is no fucking way that they got a timeout there.

- Primo
:thumbsup:thumbsup

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

ummm...

[gbs3769]

UCLA's defense looks like shit, however, the officiating tonight is terrible.

- Primo

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Game over.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

I don't think they have called one travel in the whole game. I've never seen that in a college Bball game...

[RJ2kWJ]

This Final 4 sucked a coin purse.

[dmbinchicago]

Unbelievable. Why are they still shooting the ball. Just let the clock run out and let me get my UNDER. :BANG

[DMBfan41]

This was probably the most exciting tournament ever.

Very dissapointing when the Final Four and Championship game were all terrible

[41ravens]

This Final 4 sucked a coin purse.

:thumbsup

at least UCLA didn't win it all.

[seekupig]

This Final 4 sucked a coin purse.

most boring one i can remember ever watching.

[gbs3769]

:thumbsup

at least UCLA didn't win it all.
You're walking a very thin line.

- Primo

[41ravens]

You're walking a very thin line.

- Primo

would you have won a pool? i'm not meaning anything against you. it's just that i've hated UCLA for as long as i can remember.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Fight on trojans....


Wait...what?

[justinandimcool]

I fell asleep....................but I woke up and I'm glad UCLA is sad :)

[justinandimcool]

Fight on trojans....


Wait...what?

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[onemoredrink41]

congrats to the gators. not a real exciting game. I don't like Noah, but to the rest of the gators! good job!

[onemoredrink41]

You're walking a very thin line.

- Primo


Good luck to you pud boy. :lol

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Justin...you know i'm going to USC on a basketball scholarship?

[seekupig]

i guess i'll say it......

Congrats, Florida. thank god you don't have any real fans on ants.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

i guess i'll say it......

Congrats, Florida. thank god you don't have any real fans on ants.
:lol:lol

[siserilla]

Hi. I'm a real fan.

[seekupig]

Hi. I'm a real fan.

we're talking about basketball, not football.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Hi. I'm a real fan.
You just lost stock in my book.

[41ravens]

i guess i'll say it......

Congrats, Florida. thank god you don't have any real fans on ants.

lissa (siserilla) would beg to differ. but she doesn't talk basketball much. mainly football.

[dmbinchicago]

lissa (siserilla) would beg to differ. but she doesn't talk basketball much. mainly football.
She talks basketball when they're in the Final Four.

;)

[41ravens]

Hi. I'm a real fan.

i had your back, yo.

[siserilla]

Basketball too. I follow Basketball and Football. I just never posted in here b/c I'm a girl and my opinion doesn't matter.

[41ravens]

Basketball too. I follow Basketball and Football. I just never posted in here b/c I'm a girl and my opinion doesn't matter.

that's true. but we still love you.



;)

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Basketball too. I follow Basketball and Football. I just never posted in here b/c I'm a girl and my opinion doesn't matter.
:thumbsup:thumbsup
Finally someone who knows there place in society.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Have i said how much i hate *insert caribbean name i cant say* Noah?

[clayj41]

This was almost worse than the UConn-Ga. Tech game from two years ago. I just want to see "One Shining Moment."

[siserilla]

Why do you hate him? He's not caribbean, he's French. If you're going to hate him at least get his ethnicity right.

[onemoredrink41]

Basketball too. I follow Basketball and Football. I just never posted in here b/c I'm a girl and my opinion doesn't matter.


and to them girls don't know jack. they have to bump up their egos somewhere, most of them are just sad and lonely and couldn't get a girl, so they take it out on here. :lol

sure florida is bumpin go partay!

[justinandimcool]

Justin...you know i'm going to USC on a basketball scholarship?

:eek :thumbsup :bounce

That's awesome!

Really?

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Why do you hate him? He's not caribbean, he's French. If you're going to hate him at least get his ethnicity right.
I hate his attitude. I hate his look. I hate his hair because as a basketball player, playing against people with fros SUCK when they post on you. I hate how he thinks he is the shit. If he was more modest i would call him talented, but since he has to yell at the camera after every play how talented he is, it makes me loose respect.

I respect morrison more than noah. :eek
Did i just say that?

[41ravens]

and to them girls don't know jack. they have to bump up their egos somewhere, most of them are just sad and lonely and couldn't get a girl, so they take it out on here. :lol

sure florida is bumpin go partay!

who are you referring to? cause i'm pretty sure my girl is asleep in the bed about 5 feet from me. anybody can voice their opinion, as long as they know what they're talking about. it's the people that run around claiming their team's the best and having no reason why that piss me off.

[dmbinchicago]

and to them girls don't know jack. they have to bump up their egos somewhere, most of them are just sad and lonely and couldn't get a girl, so they take it out on here. :lol

sure florida is bumpin go partay!
Wow, someone's taking things a bit too seriously tonight.

[Third Floor]

the officiating tonight is terrible.

- Primo
ACC refs. they saw blue adn thought it was duke

[siserilla]

and to them girls don't know jack. they have to bump up their egos somewhere, most of them are just sad and lonely and couldn't get a girl, so they take it out on here. :lol

sure florida is bumpin go partay!

Sadly, I'm not in Gainesville. I'm in New York for school. I wish I was though. Gainesville is going crazy right now.

I've been following Gator football since I was 4 years old. I think I know just a litlte bit.

[clayj41]

Fuck Myles Brand!

[dmbinchicago]

Sadly, I'm not in Gainesville. I'm in New York for school. I wish I was though. Gainesville is going crazy right now.

I've been following Gator football since I was 4 years old. I think I know just a litlte bit.
I wish Grossman had some eligibility left. Maybe we could get rid of him.

[dmbinchicago]

Fuck Myles Brand!
What's up, Knight?

[siserilla]

Good night guys. My 7am class will come extremely early. Once again Go Gators.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Time to start the homework.

[onemoredrink41]

Have i said how much i hate *insert caribbean name i cant say* Noah?


I hate his ass too, cut that nappy hair.

[onemoredrink41]

Wow, someone's taking things a bit too seriously tonight.


I guess you don't come around to often, to know the cocky puds on here. :lol

[gbs3769]

would you have won a pool? i'm not meaning anything against you. it's just that i've hated UCLA for as long as i can remember.
Yeah, I would have.

- Primo

[seekupig]

and to them girls don't know jack. they have to bump up their egos somewhere, most of them are just sad and lonely and couldn't get a girl, so they take it out on here. :lol


there are girls that know a lot and are respected in here (stephanie, aka bustdstuff) but you just don't happen to be one of them. you're a loud and obnoxious rah rah fan that has little knowledge of what the fuck is going on. the minute you begin to lose an argument that's based on facts or knowledge of the game, you start taking shots at people's personal lives. you are a worthless fuck that is truly hated by most people in this thread. i know you don't care because to you we're just sad, single and lonely guys trying feel better about ourselves. do me a favor, tell my wife that i'm sad, single and lonely.... she probably deserves to know.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/DSC00082.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/meg_dus_6.jpg

[clayj41]

Best Song Ever!

[clayj41]

What's up, Knight?

:thumbsup Even though I'm a UNC fan, I resent him for what happened to Knight.

[DMBfan41]

the reality of it all is, you watch college basketball for one reason.

One Shining Moment

[HolyCow]

the reality of it all is, you watch college basketball for one reason.

One Shining Moment
:thumbsup
Maybe it was because the game was a little disappointing, but the whole time I was thinking...."One Shining Moment baby..."

[gbs3769]

ACC refs. they saw blue adn thought it was duke
I could have sworn I saw Jim Burr out there. Does he do ACC games as well?

- Primo

[seekupig]

Best Song Ever!

i hate it.

it signifies the end of my favorite time of year. it feels like the day after Christmas when i was five years old, or the first day back at work after a vacation. it's depressing.

and since i'm not a baseball fan, there's nothing worth watching until the World Cup starts. at least concert season is here...

[Third Floor]

i hate it.

it signifies the end of my favorite time of year. it feels like the day after Christmas when i was five years old, or the first day back at work after a vacation. it's depressing.
sucks for you. one shining moment and opening day for the braves were both today. twas a good day

[seekupig]

sucks for you. one shining moment and opening day for the braves were both today. twas a good day

i'm a Royals fan. maybe that'll explain my feelings towards baseball. i keep track of how long their current losing streak is or which top prospect they gave away to get more prospects, but other than that it's pretty painful to watch.

[DMBfan41]

college b-ball is over, so it is very dissapointing.

But, hey, NHL and NBA playoffs start in 2 weeks.

And you just gotta love how NCAA championship is the same day as MLB Opening Day.

[gbs3769]

sucks for you. one shining moment and opening day for the braves were both today. twas a good day
:thumbsup

Yankees are rolling 13-1 in the 6th. It was a good day. Aside from Florida winning.

- Primo

[clayj41]

i hate it.

it signifies the end of my favorite time of year. it feels like the day after Christmas when i was five years old, or the first day back at work after a vacation. it's depressing.

and since i'm not a baseball fan, there's nothing worth watching until the World Cup starts. at least concert season is here...

I admit it can be depressing, but I still enjoy it.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

first post page 428...

DAMNIT!

[justinandimcool]

First post page 428 ;)

[chiznaz]

i hate it.

it signifies the end of my favorite time of year. it feels like the day after Christmas when i was five years old, or the first day back at work after a vacation. it's depressing.

and since i'm not a baseball fan, there's nothing worth watching until the World Cup starts. at least concert season is here...
thank goodness the world cup is this year, because I'm not a fan of baseball either. I hate this time as well. Once the Spurs are done in the NBA, I don't know what to do until football starts back up in the fall. My birthday is in the summer, but I still consider it the darkest time of the year because of no football/basketball/any college sports.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

First post page 428 ;)
WHORE!

[justinandimcool]

WHORE!

:hug

[ousooner]

i'm a Royals fan. maybe that'll explain my feelings towards baseball. i keep track of how long their current losing streak is or which top prospect they gave away to get more prospects, but other than that it's pretty painful to watch.
Or their streak of opening day losses, which is about 20 now.

[SteelerMan]

A lot of people are ripping on Noah, but I really don't think he's that much different from Adam Morrison. They both play hard, are cocky, and aren't afraid to show their emotions. I happen to like both of them. If you don't like either of them, I can understand that, but to criticize Noah while praising Morrison is a little hypocritical.

[ousooner]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex

How accurate is this poll?

[UNLTrpt]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex

How accurate is this poll?

nebraska didn't receive any votes so it can't be that accurate...

oh basketball...

sorry. my bad.

[SteelerMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex

How accurate is this poll?

Not at all.

[unccrombie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex

How accurate is this poll?
god awful

[RJ2kWJ]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex

How accurate is this poll?

Holy crap thats bad.

[clayj41]

That may be the ugliest postseason poll I've ever seen!

[ousooner]

Yeah, George Mason made a great run and all, but I have a hard time believing they are the 8th best team in the country. The regular season doesn't mean much in the final poll.

[seekupig]

Or their streak of opening day losses, which is about 20 now.

wrong. 3 years ago they started 11-0 and were in first place 'till about a month to go in the season. 1-19 would have been more accurate. :lol

[ousooner]

wrong. 3 years ago they started 11-0 and were in first place 'till about a month to go in the season. 1-19 would have been more accurate. :lol
My bad, I forgot about the miracle season. They almost finished with a .500 record.

[seekupig]

My bad, I forgot about the miracle season. They almost finished with a .500 record.

83-79, .512 winning %. finished 7 games back in the AL Central.

if you're going to rip on my boys, at least get your facts straight. :twenty4 ;) :D

[clayj41]

The women's championship game is really exciting......not that anyone cares.

[seekupig]

The women's championship game is really exciting......not that anyone cares.

i don't. but because of your post i'm watching the last minute of the game. i hate the pace of the women's game. i don't doubt that they're fundamentaly sound, but it's just not fun to watch. since it's the national title though, i'll watch the last few seconds and pull for Maryland. i don't want to see all of these Dyke Blue Devils walking around with their gear on next week.....

[clayj41]

i don't. but because of your post i'm watching the last minute of the game. i hate the pace of the women's game. i don't doubt that they're fundamentaly sound, but it's just not fun to watch. since it's the national title though, i'll watch the last few seconds and pull for Maryland. i don't want to see all of these Dyke Blue Devils walking around with their gear on next week.....

I agree, but it's still OK to watch. Not as good as men's, but still decent.

[clayj41]

Wow!!! Overtime.....

[seekupig]

that was pretty exciting........ even for a bunch of girls. :lol

[clayj41]

that was pretty exciting........ even for a bunch of girls. :lol

:thumbsup A lot of guys couldn't make that shot!:lol

[seekupig]

:thumbsup A lot of guys couldn't make that shot!:lol

just remember that they play with an orange volleyball.

[clayj41]

just remember that they play with an orange volleyball.

:lol :lol :lol

[seekupig]

where was the jump ball? looks like the Duke guys aren't the only ones that are on the zebra assistance program.

[ousooner]

83-79, .512 winning %. finished 7 games back in the AL Central.

if you're going to rip on my boys, at least get your facts straight. :twenty4 ;) :D
My bad, I thought they came up a couple of games short that year. I've been a life long Royals fan myself. Saw my first game in 83' I think it was, or maybe 84'. Baltimore at KC. George Brett was my hero growing up. One of my favorite pieces of memorabilia, my George Brett autographed plaque. The picture is of him standing on first base in Anaheim tipping his helmet with 3,000 on the scoreboard in the background.

[seekupig]

One of my favorite pieces of memorabilia, my George Brett autographed plaque. The picture is of him standing on first base in Anaheim tipping his helmet with 3,000 on the scoreboard in the background.

:lol :lol

i've got the same exact picture. my favorite one though is the picture of George Brett and Bo Jackson standing next to each other laughing in the outfield during pre game warm ups.....

[ousooner]

:lol :lol

i've got the same exact picture. my favorite one though is the picture of George Brett and Bo Jackson standing next to each other laughing in the outfield during pre game warm ups.....
Yeah, but is yours signed? Also, have a George Brett autoghraphed baseball. Bo & George, that's a good one. I never saw Bo play in person. I didn't see a game for about fifteen years until two summers ago. Got to see the Giants at KC during interleague play. Bought tickets in left field to see Bonds close up and he DH'd.

[seekupig]

Yeah, but is yours signed?

no, but my baseball autographed by most of the 1980 world series team that lost to the Phillies is. Brett, Willie Wilson, Hal McRae, Amos Otis, Frank White, Dan Quisenberry, etc....

i also still have the program from my first game in KC (1978).

EDIT - got to see Bo Jackson play back in '90. him and Danny Tartabull went back to back into the waterfalls that game....

[ousooner]

no, but my baseball autographed by most of the 1980 world series team that lost to the Phillies is. Brett, Willie Wilson, Hal McRae, Amos Otis, Frank White, Dan Quisenberry, etc....

i also still have the program from my first game in KC (1978).

EDIT - got to see Bo Jackson play back in '90. him and Danny Tartabull went back to back into the waterfalls that game....
Nice, ball. I hate that highlight of Tug McGraw getting last strikeout to end the series. Did you live in KC?

[seekupig]

Nice, ball. I hate that highlight of Tug McGraw getting last strikeout to end the series. Did you live in KC?

no, i was a military brat so i lived all over the place. actually saw quite a few Royals games at the Kingdome when i lived in WA. all of my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins live in Kansas though. My grandfather lives in Overland Park and had season tickets to the Royals so whenever i went to visit i got to go to games. i still need to see a Chiefs game at Arrowhead and a KU game at Allen Fieldhouse. after that, i can die happy.

[ousooner]

no, i was a military brat so i lived all over the place. actually saw quite a few Royals games at the Kingdome when i lived in WA. all of my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins live in Kansas though. My grandfather lives in Overland Park and had season tickets to the Royals so whenever i went to visit i got to go to games. i still need to see a Chiefs game at Arrowhead and a KU game at Allen Fieldhouse. after that, i can die happy.
Wow, you've never been to a KU game in Lawrence? Most of my family is in Kansas. Olathe, Wichita, Independence, Coffeyville, Newton. Never went to a Chiefs game, but I did get to see the Utah Jazz at the Kansas City Kings years ago.

Edit: My uncle used to be a cop in Leawood. He used to drive us around and show us a lot of the players houses. I remember seeing Bo's, George's, Brett Saberhagan's, Darryl Motley's. It was pretty cool.

[seekupig]

Wow, you've never been to a KU game in Lawrence? Most of my family is in Kansas. Olathe, Wichita, Independence, Coffeyville, Newton. Never went to a Chiefs game, but I did get to see the Utah Jazz at the Kansas City Kings years ago.

Edit: My uncle used to be a cop in Leawood. He used to drive us around and show us a lot of the players houses. I remember seeing Bo's, George's, Brett Saberhagan's, Darryl Motley's. It was pretty cool.

i've always been out there during the summer. that's why i've been to so many Royals games and nothing else. not to mention the Chiefs and Jayhawks are pretty tough tickets if you don't know someone. my aunt is a KU alum, but she lives in New Zealand, so she's not much help. :lol

[SteelerMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

ESPN's projected Top 25 for next season. It's not a bad list, although I don't think Florida State or Oklahoma State will be that good, and a lot of these teams are going to drop significantly once people start declaring for the draft.

[ousooner]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

ESPN's projected Top 25 for next season. It's not a bad list, although I don't think Florida State or Oklahoma State will be that good, and a lot of these teams are going to drop significantly once people start declaring for the draft.
As much as I hate to say it, Oklahoma State will be very good. Very young and talented. Not as talented as NC or KU, but they have plenty. OU is a year away. They'll go through the growing pains that the other young teams did this year.

[clayj41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

ESPN's projected Top 25 for next season. It's not a bad list, although I don't think Florida State or Oklahoma State will be that good, and a lot of these teams are going to drop significantly once people start declaring for the draft.

:thumbsup I just looked at the list a little bit ago. Good to see UNC at #3 although we all know they'll be #1 by the time the year is over.:D

[SteelerMan]

:thumbsup I just looked at the list a little bit ago. Good to see UNC at #3 although we all know they'll be #1 by the time the year is over.:D

At first, I was afraid it could end up like the Felton/May/McCants freshman year, which didn't go so well. Then I remembered they have Hansbrough coming back. :D Danny Green and Bobby Frasor aren't bad either, but I believe their starting days will be over within the first month of the season.

[chiznaz]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

ESPN's projected Top 25 for next season. It's not a bad list, although I don't think Florida State or Oklahoma State will be that good, and a lot of these teams are going to drop significantly once people start declaring for the draft.

A&M at 18:) Man I can't wait for next season!

[seekupig]

They'll go through the growing pains that the other young teams did this year.

if KU this year was any indication, you guys should win the Big XII. damn rebuilding years.... :D

[seekupig]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

ESPN's projected Top 25 for next season. It's not a bad list, although I don't think Florida State or Oklahoma State will be that good, and a lot of these teams are going to drop significantly once people start declaring for the draft.

#2- Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk. :cool

[ousooner]

if KU this year was any indication, you guys should win the Big XII. damn rebuilding years.... :D
Don't forget, this year the conference was probably the weakest it has been since it was formed.

[seekupig]

Don't forget, this year the conference was probably the weakest it has been since it was formed.

i'm well aware of that. and don't you forget that this was probably the weakest team that KU has has since 1988.

[ousooner]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9359992

Remember, this is the same guy that had Oklahoma #1 this time last year.

Edit: This guy doesn't even have us as one of the five Big 12 teams in the dance next year, so we'll probably win the championship and cut down the nets.

[ousooner]

i'm well aware of that. and don't you forget that this was probably the weakest team that KU has has since 1988.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9357436

This would be a blow to texas. He'd be crazy not to go.

[seekupig]

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9357436

This would be a blow to texas. He'd be crazy not to go.

i've thought he was as good as gone for a few months now. if he's gone, give KU the Big XII title now.

[clayj41]

At first, I was afraid it could end up like the Felton/May/McCants freshman year, which didn't go so well. Then I remembered they have Hansbrough coming back. :D Danny Green and Bobby Frasor aren't bad either, but I believe their starting days will be over within the first month of the season.

Terry will have to accept the leadership role similar to the way Noel did this year.

[seekupig]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9359992



from that article......

Brandon Rush already has said he's coming back. We're guessing one of the following underclassmen will turn pro -- Mario Chalmers, C.J. Giles, Julian Wright or Sasha Kaun --

what the fuck is he talking about? Mario Chalmers? does this guy realize that his dad is an assistant coach? CJ Giles didn't even start most of the season and Sasha Kaun is....... Sasha Kaun. Julian Wright is a possibility, but i still think Rush is the biggest risk to leave. this guy is a sports writer and he hasn't learned not to take what someone says minutes after a season ending loss to heart? jackass.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

ESPN's projected Top 25 for next season. It's not a bad list, although I don't think Florida State or Oklahoma State will be that good, and a lot of these teams are going to drop significantly once people start declaring for the draft.
:thumbsup:thumbsup
Stoked to see Cal that high. Go bears! I'll try to make it to more games next year than i did this year. Powe is such a savage. If they learn how to stop choking at the end of games they could be great.

[SteelerMan]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9359992

Maybe he knows something I don't know, but these look pretty bad. Joakim Noah and Glen Davis are both coming back? Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech will both finish in the Top 20? Oklahoma won't even make the tournament? New Mexico State will win the WAC? (I know nobody cares about that last one, but I think it's crazy.) Who let this guy make up the rankings?

[SteelerMan]

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/8593178

Here is Doyel's Preseason Top 25 for this past season following the draft deadline. #2 Oklahoma, #3 Louisville, #6 Arizona, #7 Nevada, #9 Texas Tech(!), #17 Oklahoma State, #22 Stanford, and #24 Wake Forest. Yeah, okay. They did yet ANOTHER Preseason Top 25 the week before the season started, but I won't bother posting that one. They did drop Villanova to #20 though. I think they should give one of us Doyel's job.

Edit: Which gives me a good idea... anyone interested in doing an Ants Poll for college basketball? We don't have to update it every single week like the actual polls (although we could, but it might get tedious). I think it'd be interesting. We could even start now with a preseason poll for next year. I'll volunteer to put it together if people are interested.

[seekupig]

Edit: Which gives me a good idea... anyone interested in doing an Ants Poll for college basketball? We don't have to update it every single week like the actual polls (although we could, but it might get tedious). I think it'd be interesting. We could even start now with a preseason poll for next year. I'll volunteer to put it together if people are interested.

i'm in.

[SteelerMan]

i'm in.

Alright... well between now and Monday, PM me your Top 25 rankings (as of now) and I'll put them together Tuesday. It may seem dumb to do them when we don't know who is leaving for the draft, but just do them based on your assumptions of who is leaving and who is staying.

[ousooner]

Kelvin Sampson is suposed to be on Rome during the third hour. He was on Rome's show a couple of weeks ago and said he hoped to spend the rest of his career at OU and retire on the bench at OU. I don't hold it against him and know that you can't take that stuff seriously from any coach, but I just like to hear them try to explain statements like that when they end up leaving a short time later.

[seekupig]

Alright... well between now and Monday, PM me your Top 25 rankings (as of now) and I'll put them together Tuesday. It may seem dumb to do them when we don't know who is leaving for the draft, but just do them based on your assumptions of who is leaving and who is staying.

i've got an idea....

why don't we do one this week like you said. i'll get my poll to you on Sunday when i've got some time to sit down and look it over.

then we can do another one the week after the NBA draft. it'll be interesting to see the difference in the two polls once the players staying and leaving are set in stone.

if necessary, we can do a third one when Tubby Smith cleans his desklater on in the summer and finds a fax from Rondo that says he really wanted to stay but was pressured by an agent when he goes undrafted.

[haildmb]

if necessary, we can do a third one when Tubby Smith cleans his desklater on in the summer and finds a fax from Rondo that says he really wanted to stay but was pressured by an agent when he goes undrafted.


:lol

[clayj41]

Anyone else watch JJ win the Wooden Award today?:thumbsdow

[clayj41]

Also, for any NC St. fans I found this a little troubling.:(

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2401667

[baloneybandit21]

i just saw that when i was gonna check my email and it was on the top news headlines, a little disconcerting to say the least, good thing he's gonna be ok

[RJ2kWJ]

Anyone else watch JJ win the Wooden Award today?:thumbsdow

He won everything. :lol

Except a title...

[haildmb]

Also, for any NC St. fans I found this a little troubling.:(

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2401667


yeah I heard that on ESPN this morning, I'm glad he's gonna be okay

[SteelerMan]

Also, for any NC St. fans I found this a little troubling.:(

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2401667

Hmmm... I wonder where Chris Paul was around that time.

[clayj41]

He won everything. :lol

Except a title...

....and that's all that matters!:D

[seekupig]

rumors in the area have John Calipari going to NC State. the NC State AD was in Memphis over the weekend and flew back this afternoon. "sources" are saying it's a done deal and a press conference is scheduled for tomorrow at 3pm. take this for what it's worth.... right now it's rumors, but this is what i've heard.

[UNC41]

rumors in the area have John Calipari going to NC State. the NC State AD was in Memphis over the weekend and flew back this afternoon. "sources" are saying it's a done deal and a press conference is scheduled for tomorrow at 3pm. take this for what it's worth.... right now it's rumors, but this is what i've heard.

I think it's a downgrade in his chances of winning a national championshp. I can understand him wanting to go to a major conference school, but I don't think NC St. is the answer.

[UNC41]

Bye, bye Aldridge.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2403280

[seekupig]

I think it's a downgrade in his chances of winning a national championshp. I can understand him wanting to go to a major conference school, but I don't think NC St. is the answer.

i agree, but he is an ego maniac. being at NC State gives him his best chance to prove that he is on the level with Roy and K.

[ousooner]

I wish we'd hurry up and get a coach. The suspense is killing me. I know Joe C. will get the right guy though.

[SteelerMan]

Don't forget to send me your Preseason Top 25 this week. After the draft, we'll do it again to see how much early entries to the draft changed the poll. I'm going to wait until I get at least five to put it together, but try to get it to me by Wednesday or Thursday so we can do it by the end of the week. I think it'll be interesting.

[HolyCow]

I wish we'd hurry up and get a coach. The suspense is killing me. I know Joe C. will get the right guy though.
WARNING: INSIDE INFORMATION!

My girlfriend, that is a cheerleader here at OU got an email from her coach just now that said that "OU's men's basketball team will be hiring a coach within the next 48 hours. All spirit squad members are asked to be on standby and will be notified 5 hours prior to the official announcement."

This means that we have a coach. Joe C. is probably just working out contract details and small things.

[UNC41]

Gregg Doyle continues to try and dumb down college basketball fans everywhere.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9368525

[HolyCow]

I am so sick of Joakim Noah. He doesn't even deserve second team all-american.

I think Doyle and most other moron writers forget that 30 or so games were played before the tournament. And what did Noah average in the tourney? 15 points 8 rebounds and 4 blocks? That is a bad night for The Landlord. Redick deserved every bit of that award.

I am so sick of it.

[SteelerMan]

Gregg Doyle continues to try and dumb down college basketball fans everywhere.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9368525


It's bigger than Noah. Most awards for national coach of the year, for example, have gone to Roy Williams. That's the same Roy Williams whose North Carolina team lost in the second round of the NCAA Tournament to George Mason. George Mason ended up in the Final Four, having beaten UNC and Michigan State and Connecticut along the way.
If the vote for the country's top coach were held today, George Mason's Jim Larranaga would win it. You know. I know it. Roy Williams knows it.


:thumbsdow

I'm sick of this guy. He's quickly becoming my second least favorite sports writer (Skip Bayless is untouchable at this point).

[haildmb]

rumors in the area have John Calipari going to NC State. the NC State AD was in Memphis over the weekend and flew back this afternoon. "sources" are saying it's a done deal and a press conference is scheduled for tomorrow at 3pm. take this for what it's worth.... right now it's rumors, but this is what i've heard.


wow, all I've heard so far is they're talking and Calipari is going to be meeting with them again in Raleigh. All along I've said I'd be surprised if he left Memphis, but as an NC State alumnus, here's hoping :thumbsup I've liked Calipari since his days with UMass

At least with Cheney out of basketball now, his life will be safe :lol

[seekupig]

Gregg Doyle continues to try and dumb down college basketball fans everywhere.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9368525

fucking idiot.

coach of the tournament is not the same as coach of the year. GMU made a great run in the tournament, but winning four games is a row does not offset a season loaded with mediocrity. UNC was predicted to be at the bottom of the ACC and not make the tourney. Roy is coach of the year, hands down.

[ousooner]

Well, here it is. What do you all think?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2404508

Updated: April 11, 2006, 12:31 AM ET

Sources: Capel will replace Sampson at Oklahoma

By Andy Katz
ESPN.com


Oklahoma is expected to name Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel as its next men's basketball coach, multiple sources told ESPN.com on Monday night.

A news conference is expected either late Tuesday or Wednesday.

Capel was scheduled to meet with his team Tuesday morning to tell them he has accepted the Sooners job.

Capel was the stealth candidate Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione had been working the past 10 days. Earlier Monday, Wichita State's Mark Turgeon and Miami's Frank Haith, thought to be front-runners for the position, both made it clear they were staying at their respective schools. Regardless, Capel was a target of Castiglione's since Kelvin Sampson announced he was leaving for Indiana two weeks ago.

Capel, 31, led the Rams to the NCAA Tournament in 2004 and the NIT in 2005. The fourth-year VCU coach is considered a rising star in the business and was selected last summer to be an assistant coach with Manhattan's Bobby Gonzalez on the USA World University Games staff led by Villanova's Jay Wright. The United States won the gold medal in Turkey.

VCU finished 19-10, 11-7 in the Colonial Athletic Association this past season.

After the season, Capel agreed to a two-year contract extension that gave him six years on his VCU deal. His record at the school was was 79-41.

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that Capel rated very high when Castiglione and other Oklahoma officials checked him out with high-profile basketball-related people. Oklahoma was looking for a person to lead the Sooners' program long term and was willing to think "out of the box" with Sampson's successor.

Oklahoma's program is at an all-time high with some of the top facilities in the country. Sampson signed his highest-rated recruiting class before he left for Indiana. The Sooners lose seniors Taj Gray, Terrell Everett and Kevin Bookout -- three of their top four scorers. But they return Michael Neal (12.4 points per game), Nate Carter (6 points) and David Godbold (5.7 points), three of the top four guards from last season's 20-9 team (11-5 in the Big 12 and a first-round loser to Wisconsin-Milwaukee in the NCAA Tournament).

Oklahoma is still waiting for an April 21 NCAA infractions hearing on rules violations from 2000-04 dealing with excessive phone calls under Sampson. The school already self-imposed penalties on Sampson (freezing his salary, no July recruiting) as well as cutting scholarships and recruiting visits from the past year.

Capel played at Duke from 1994-97 and is the son of Charlotte Bobcats assistant Jeff Capel, a former head coach at Old Dominion and North Carolina A&T.

Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com.

[ousooner]

I am so sick of Joakim Noah. He doesn't even deserve second team all-american.

I think Doyle and most other moron writers forget that 30 or so games were played before the tournament. And what did Noah average in the tourney? 15 points 8 rebounds and 4 blocks? That is a bad night for The Landlord. Redick deserved every bit of that award.

I am so sick of it.
Really? I think he's a great player. I love his energy and enthusiasm.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Well, here it is. What do you all think?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2404508

Hope he works out better than Snyder and Amaker(sp)...Who am I kidding, I don't want him to work out but I hope he does for you and Royce's sake.

[UNC41]

Well, here it is. What do you all think?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2404508

He could win 12 national championships and go down as the greatest coach of all-time, but, to me, his legacy will always be in the 1995 buzzer beater he hit to send the UNC/Duke game into double overtime.

[ousooner]

Hope he works out better than Snyder and Amaker(sp)...Who am I kidding, I don't want him to work out but I hope he does for you and Royce's sake.
I'm not sure what to think about it. I like that he's young and it seems like he's been pretty successful so far. I would think he'd be able to relate well to the players and recruit well. Here's his bio.

http://vcurams.vcu.edu/mbb/capelcoach.htm

[mizzoudmbfan]

I'm not sure what to think about it. I like that he's young and it seems like he's been pretty successful so far. I would think he'd be able to relate well to the players and recruit well. Here's his bio.

http://vcurams.vcu.edu/mbb/capelcoach.htm

Yeah, I'm definitely not writing him off by any means. If I were you guys I'd just play the wait and see game. Graduated from a storied program under one of the most prestigious coaches of our time. Had relative success at a smaller school(1 automatic NCAA bid from the CAA and one NIT appearance). 79-41 at VCU, not bad but still but to me that is just a small step up from a Quin Snyder situation(meaning he technically has HC exp, just not too much). See Melvin Watkins decent record at UNC Charlotte...soon followed by a 0 conference win season at aTm.

I'd definitely say this one could go either way. Best of luck to you...except one night a season.

I know this is early but any word on recruits since Sampson left. If I remember right you guys had a pretty stout class on paper.

[UNLTrpt]

Well, here it is. What do you all think?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2404508

at first I said..."who?"

but it looks like he has the credentials.

That was the same thing with Barry Collier and look where he's at. I'm always skeptical of those small college coaches, some hack it but most don't.

For Nebraska's sake though, I hope he runs the program into the ground. sorry guys.

[ousooner]

I know this is early but any word on recruits since Sampson left. If I remember right you guys had a pretty stout class on paper.
All are honoring their committment. Capel should have plenty of talent to get started with.

[ousooner]

at first I said..."who?"

but it looks like he has the credentials.

That was the same thing with Barry Collier and look where he's at. I'm always skeptical of those small college coaches, some hack it but most don't.

For Nebraska's sake though, I hope he runs the program into the ground. sorry guys.
Thanks for the kind words. I'd say the same, but Nebraska's program has already been run into the ground, over and over again ;)

[ousooner]

Hey Royce, I am listening to the Animal this morning and BBJ is talking about the Capel hire and he mentioned that Tubby Smith took the job after Billy Tubbs was let go for a day and then left and that's when Sampson was hired. Had you ever heard that? I never had and just thought that was interesting.

[HolyCow]

I hadn't heard that...


But on Capel, I love it. I think it is as Kelvin just said on the Animal, a "grand slam." He is young, exciting and I think he will recruit great players. I wanted a guy that could come to OU and make it his school. I think that is exactly what Capel will do.

I am a huge, huge fan of this hire.

[ousooner]

I hadn't heard that...


But on Capel, I love it. I think it is as Kelvin just said on the Animal, a "grand slam." He is young, exciting and I think he will recruit great players. I wanted a guy that could come to OU and make it his school. I think that is exactly what Capel will do.

I am a huge, huge fan of this hire.
Oh man, they talked to Kelvin? I went over to Rome's show and then was going to come back for the press conference. What else did he say?

[HolyCow]

Oh man, they talked to Kelvin? I went over to Rome's show and then was going to come back for the press conference. What else did he say?

First, they talked about Capel and Kelvin was really excited. He talked about how he knows him from his days at UNC-Pembroke and how he knows his dad and such.

Kelvin said that Jeff Capel is one of the most mature coaches for his age he knows. He talked about how he (Kelvin) was an unknown 31 year old coach when he was hired at Wazzu. How Sherri Coale was an unknown 31 year old. How Billy Donovan was an unknown 31 year old...and so on.

Basically he praised the heck out of Joe C. and Capel. It was funny how he kept saying "our" and "we" when he referred to OU.

[UNLTrpt]

Thanks for the kind words. I'd say the same, but Nebraska's program has already been run into the ground, over and over again ;)

this is true.

[ousooner]

First, they talked about Capel and Kelvin was really excited. He talked about how he knows him from his days at UNC-Pembroke and how he knows his dad and such.

Kelvin said that Jeff Capel is one of the most mature coaches for his age he knows. He talked about how he (Kelvin) was an unknown 31 year old coach when he was hired at Wazzu. How Sherri Coale was an unknown 31 year old. How Billy Donovan was an unknown 31 year old...and so on.

Basically he praised the heck out of Joe C. and Capel. It was funny how he kept saying "our" and "we" when he referred to OU.
He's family, he can always say "our" and "we" as far as I'm concerned.

[HolyCow]

He's family, he can always say "our" and "we" as far as I'm concerned.

I totally agree. And like he said on the radio, he isn't just a former coach, he is a parent now. :lol I thought that was really funny.

I am pumped about the press conference. I hope there is a good turnout. It is going to be right behind the Union.

[ousooner]

I totally agree. And like he said on the radio, he isn't just a former coach, he is a parent now. :lol I thought that was really funny.

I am pumped about the press conference. I hope there is a good turnout. It is going to be right behind the Union.
Are you going?

[HolyCow]

Are you going?

Just got back. Solid crowd. It was on the white patio type thing outside of the Union. Lots of media and students. Capel is a smoooooooth talker. He got me excited.

[ousooner]

Just got back. Solid crowd. It was on the white patio type thing outside of the Union. Lots of media and students. Capel is a smoooooooth talker. He got me excited.
I listened to it on the radio. He sounded better then Boren and Castiglione. I hope it works out, because he's very likable.

[Third Floor]

memphis news reports calipari tells state to go screw themselves. well in a nicer way

[mizzoudmbfan]

memphis news reports calipari tells state to go screw themselves. well in a nicer way

He was just playing NC State to get a pay hike at Memphis if you ask me. I don't think he ever wanted a part of being in the same state as Duke and UNC...not to mention having to play the rest of the ACC.

just my .02

[ousooner]

He was just playing NC State to get a pay hike at Memphis if you ask me. I don't think he ever wanted a part of being in the same state as Duke and UNC...not to mention having to play the rest of the ACC.

just my .02
:thumbsup I agree.

[Third Floor]

names state fans are throughing out for their next coach:

Bill Self
Donovan
Pitino
Izzo
Bobby Knight

tubby, izzo, crean (marquette), and romar (washington) were appearantly all asked, and said they werent interested. so add barnes and calipari. and states onto their 7th choice

[ousooner]

names state fans are throughing out for their next coach:

Bill Self
Donovan
Pitino
Izzo
Bobby Knight

tubby, izzo, crean (marquette), and romar (washington) were appearantly all asked, and said they werent interested. so add barnes and calipari. and states onto their 7th choice
They're nuttier than us OU fans.

[SteelerMan]

tubby, izzo, crean (marquette), and romar (washington) were appearantly all asked, and said they werent interested. so add barnes and calipari. and states onto their 7th choice

They should hire Matt Doherty.

[chiznaz]

There were a bunch of IU and NC State fans swarming a A&M rivals100.com board I'm on a bunch. They were screaming how they could pluck Gillispie away from us if they wanted to. :rolleyes

Looks like NC State might just let the players coach themselves and just street ball next year..... kidding;)

[SteelerMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2406574

Turns out John Calipari didn't want any part of UNC or Duke. I think it was a pretty smart move for him. I thought his ego would make him want to show he can compete with Roy Williams and Coach K... but I think it turns out that his ego can't handle playing third wheel to those two and their respective schools, which is what would've ended up happening.

The article mentions LSU's John Brady and George Mason's Jim Larranaga as potential candidates... not sure if they're actually looking at them or if the article just suggests that they should. Prior to this year, nobody around here (Louisiana) was really all that crazy about John Brady. They still don't care about him too much. My impression is that he just got lucky and landed a lot of talented local players who wanted to stay in town and play at LSU anyway (pretty much everyone on the team is from Baton Rouge).

[SteelerMan]

Well, looks like the Preseason Ants Top 25 isn't going to fly. So far, I only have 2 entries (and one is my own). I'll still do it if I can get three more entries. Otherwise, I suppose we'll wait until after the draft. I guess people are sick of college basketball.

[ousooner]

Just got back. Solid crowd. It was on the white patio type thing outside of the Union. Lots of media and students. Capel is a smoooooooth talker. He got me excited.
Jeff Capel will be on Rome's show tomorrow sometime between 11am-2pm central. Rome always says what hour the guest will be on at the beginning of the show.

http://www.xtrasportsradio.com/main.html

[rconverse]

Jeff Capel will be on Rome's show tomorrow sometime between 11am-2pm central. Rome always says what hour the guest will be on at the beginning of the show.

http://www.xtrasportsradio.com/main.html

Jeff Capel was the first Duke jersey that I bought. :multi

Thanks for the heads up!

[ousooner]

The Sports Animal in OKC interviewed Andy Katz and they asked him if Capel was the first choice or a fall back choice or how it went down, basically how much did OU have to settle. Katz said that Capel was in Joe Castiglione's top 3 from the very beginning. Katz didn't know if he was the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice, but that he was definitely in the top 3. I like the choice, but that makes me feel even better about it since I was wondering that myself. I have the utmost confidence in Joe C and I think Capel will do a great job.

[HolyCow]

The Sports Animal in OKC interviewed Andy Katz and they asked him if Capel was the first choice or a fall back choice or how it went down, basically how much did OU have to settle. Katz said that Capel was in Joe Castiglione's top 3 from the very beginning. Katz didn't know if he was the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice, but that he was definitely in the top 3. I like the choice, but that makes me feel even better about it since I was wondering that myself. I have the utmost confidence in Joe C and I think Capel will do a great job.

Makes me feel better that they got turned down by 5 or 6 people and had to settle for Capel. Joe must have really seen something he liked. I am confident.

[unccrombie]

uconn's nelson to the nfl http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2407856

[SteelerMan]

Alright... here's the 2006-2007 Preseason Ants Top 25 Poll. If you have any complaints, just send me your poll and if I get a few more entries, I'll update it. The first brackets are the number of points, the second brackets are for first place votes.

1. Kansas (49)(1)
2. UNC (48)(1)
3. Ohio State (47)
4. Florida (44)
5. Texas (40)
6. UCLA (39)
7. Georgetown (36)
8. Pittsburgh (35)
9. LSU (34)
10. Memphis (33)
11. Alabama (32)
12. Uconn (30)
13. Duke (27)
14. Arizona (22)
15. Texas A & M (22)
16. Wisconsin (21)
17. California (19)
18. Boston College (15)
19. Tennessee (12)
20. Villanova (11)
21. Oklahoma State (10)
22. Florida State (8)
23. NC State (6)
24. Gonzaga (5)
25. Southern Illinois (3)

Also Receiving Votes: Oklahoma (1), Kentucky (1)

Contributors: SteelerMan, seekupig

[baloneybandit21]

i think florida has got to be number one with all of their returning players, most importantly joakim noah

[seekupig]

i think florida has got to be number one with all of their returning players, most importantly joakim noah

everyone has a vote. PM your top 25 to SteelerMan.

i think Florida will be good, but i think they're a classic example of a team getting hot at the right time. they won six in a row when it mattered most but i don't think that makes them the preseason favorite next year. my opinion of course........

[darbini]

Florida won 17 in a row to start off the year, plus noone wins the NCAA tournament without getting hot at the right time. They finished off winning 11straight, including the SEC tournament. Noah is not as big of a deal as people are making him out to be. Every guy on that team plays like Noah, and they're all coming back. You never know with the big dance, but they are definitely making it to the Final Four. IMO they're going to be the best team in the country no doubt.

[ousooner]

i think florida has got to be number one with all of their returning players, most importantly joakim noah
:thumbsup

everyone has a vote. PM your top 25 to SteelerMan.

i think Florida will be good, but i think they're a classic example of a team getting hot at the right time. they won six in a row when it mattered most but i don't think that makes them the preseason favorite next year. my opinion of course........
I think it was more than just getting hot at the right time. They rolled through the SEC tourney and then through the NCAA tourney. I'm not sure how many in a row they actually won to end the season. And only a couple of their games were close. I think they just got better as the season went and it's something they could have sustained as opposed to just getting hot for a six game stretch. Just my opinion of course ;)

[seekupig]

:thumbsup


I think it was more than just getting hot at the right time. They rolled through the SEC tourney and then through the NCAA tourney. I'm not sure how many in a row they actually won to end the season. And only a couple of their games were close. I think they just got better as the season went and it's something they could have sustained as opposed to just getting hot for a six game stretch. Just my opinion of course ;)

you're right. Florida is a great team. they managed to take 1 of 3 from the two time defending NIT champions South Carolina and put the hammer down in the SEC championship game with a mind boggling 49-47 blowout of the powerhouse Gamecocks.

all of those jokes aside, i agree that Florida should be one of the favorites going into next year.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Wait a second...kU loses to Bradley...that's right folks the MVC powerhouse, Bradley. And they are number "pre"(awful early for predictions)season #1. Give me a break. So what, the big announcement that BRush is staying(what were his options? small ball in Europe?). Who did they beat last(05-06) year? a very(sorry brian and royce) overated OU team, KY on a down year, and Texas in a post season tourny. With loses to KSjUco and the powerhouse that is Nevada...not to mention the worst Missouri team in(I'm going out on a limb here) any of our lifetimes?

I'm not going to lie, I'm am not totally sober. I try to go against my nature and not to flame to bad against kU on here becuase I like the generally civil atmosphere plus the kU phans(Dustin) seem like alright guys, I didn't come here after they choked one away to Bucknell...I didn't come here and talk all high and mighty after they lost to us and I didnt come here and talk smack after they lost to Bradley....but honestly #1? give me a break. I have lost all faith in the previously flwaless am.org poll.

I'll will not stand idly by while our nations youth piss away their hopes and dreams on another Larry Brownless kU squad.


edit: I will admit the kU does have some decent talent coming back and should not be overlooked. definatly a top 25 and probably even 15 or 10...but I just can't agree with #1.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Just cause I'm feelin frisky.

And yes I do realise that these jokes were funnier the first time when they were made about Bucknell. I prefer to not make Bradley or Bucknell jokes...just "Buckley" jokes.

[SteelerMan]

You have no right to complain about the Ants Poll unless you made a contribution to the poll, and EVERYONE is still welcome to do so. That is all.

[seekupig]

edit: I will admit the kU does have some decent talent coming back and should not be overlooked. definatly a top 25 and probably even 15 or 10...but I just can't agree with #1.

some decent talent coming back? who isn't coming back?

and last time i checked, to choke in the tournament you have to be in the tournament first. i know as a Mizzou fan you feel it's your obligation to bash KU, but you really might want to mix in some postseason play before you start throwing insults at KU for "choking" in the first round of a tournament that the Tigers haven't sniffed in awhile.....

[seekupig]

just found this little tidbit buried in one of the blogs on ESPN.com. looks like we'll be able to settle this Florida/Kansas thing on the court.....

• Lock in Nov. 25 in Las Vegas, which should be the scene of one of the best nonconference games of the season. That's when Florida and Kansas are expected to play in the Las Vegas Invitational over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

[SteelerMan]

The funny thing is that seekupig (our resident Kansas fan) isn't the one who put Kansas at #1... I did, and I'm a UNC fan. He put UNC #1.

To be honest, I think a bigger argument can be made against putting UNC #1 than there can against putting Kansas #1. Kansas has EVERYONE returning from a team that nearly won the Big 12 and did win the Big 12 tournament. UNC is losing David Noel, arguably their second best player from last season, and once again they'll be relying heavily on freshmen. And speaking of upsets... yes, Kansas lost to Bradley, but UNC lost to George Mason. I don't have a problem with UNC being #1, I just think if you're going to rip Kansas as a #1 pick, you could rip UNC as a #1 pick even more easily.

[seekupig]

The funny thing is that seekupig (our resident Kansas fan) isn't the one who put Kansas at #1... I did, and I'm a UNC fan. He put UNC #1.


:lol :thumbsup

[ousooner]

The funny thing is that seekupig (our resident Kansas fan) isn't the one who put Kansas at #1... I did, and I'm a UNC fan. He put UNC #1.

To be honest, I think a bigger argument can be made against putting UNC #1 than there can against putting Kansas #1. Kansas has EVERYONE returning from a team that nearly won the Big 12 and did win the Big 12 tournament. UNC is losing David Noel, arguably their second best player from last season, and once again they'll be relying heavily on freshmen. And speaking of upsets... yes, Kansas lost to Bradley, but UNC lost to George Mason. I don't have a problem with UNC being #1, I just think if you're going to rip Kansas as a #1 pick, you could rip UNC as a #1 pick even more easily.
My poll is in, and I have Oklahoma #1. What? It's a legit pick.

[seekupig]

My poll is in, and I have Oklahoma #1. What? It's a legit pick.

the football thread is down the hall. ;)

[ousooner]

the football thread is down the hall. ;)
:thumbsup Ah, football, can't wait.

I think OU is bringing in enough talent that they could have a KU type season of last year. Not win the conference though, because the conference will be better next year. But more likely they will have an Oklahoma St type season of last year and be ready to go in '08.

[seekupig]

I think OU is bringing in enough talent that they could have a KU type season of last year. Not win the conference though, because the conference will be better next year. But more likely they will have an Oklahoma St type season of last year and be ready to go in '08.

:thumbsup i'd agree with that.

i really don't understand what it is with the anti KU sentiment lately. they may not be #1 preseason, but every thing i've seen and read has them in the top five next year. they were a good team this year that is returning all starters. how anyone could not have them in the top five is beyond me.

[skatcat]

I think KU is definite top 5. I think they could make a great run next year. As for OU, i'm not so sure about the Capel hire. Guess time will tell on that one.

[mizzoudmbfan]

some decent talent coming back? who isn't coming back?

and last time i checked, to choke in the tournament you have to be in the tournament first. i know as a Mizzou fan you feel it's your obligation to bash KU, but you really might want to mix in some postseason play before you start throwing insults at KU for "choking" in the first round of a tournament that the Tigers haven't sniffed in awhile.....
So since the team I cheer for has not been in the NCAAs in a few years I can't have an opinion about another team? What do you think I don't watch college basketball other than Mizzou? I'd have some pretty boring Marchs if that were the case.

You put quotations around the word choking, so teams seeded 4-13 and a 3-14 those are not really feasible upsets? I don't know that I'm throwing insults I think I'm just calling a spade a spade. A team with a very storied tradition from a fairly stout conference bows out in the round of 64 two years in a row to virtual nobodies...seems like choking to me. But you are right, Missouri hasn't been to the dance in a couple years(actually the last time we were in postseason was the last time kansas won a game) so I don't have the right to an opinion. When Missouri is as great as mighty Kansas then I as a fan will be able to come back here and finally grace you guys with my opinion which will be legitimized by what 19 year old boys have accomplished in a game.

[SteelerMan]

So since the team I cheer for has not been in the NCAAs in a few years I can't have an opinion about another team?

You're right! And you can voice that opinion by submitting your Top 25 poll to me. If we get a couple more by this afternoon, I'll go ahead and post the updated version.

[ousooner]

You're right! And you can voice that opinion by submitting your Top 25 poll to me. If we get a couple more by this afternoon, I'll go ahead and post the updated version.
Did you get mine or do I need to resend it?

[seekupig]

So since the team I cheer for has not been in the NCAAs in a few years I can't have an opinion about another team? What do you think I don't watch college basketball other than Mizzou? I'd have some pretty boring Marchs if that were the case.

You put quotations around the word choking, so teams seeded 4-13 and a 3-14 those are not really feasible upsets? I don't know that I'm throwing insults I think I'm just calling a spade a spade. A team with a very storied tradition from a fairly stout conference bows out in the round of 64 two years in a row to virtual nobodies...seems like choking to me. But you are right, Missouri hasn't been to the dance in a couple years(actually the last time we were in postseason was the last time kansas won a game) so I don't have the right to an opinion. When Missouri is as great as mighty Kansas then I as a fan will be able to come back here and finally grace you guys with my opinion which will be legitimized by what 19 year old boys have accomplished in a game.

settle down man, i was just fucking with you. i knew you were fucked up when you posted what you did and was just having some fun with it. and the reason i put quotation marks around choking was because i'm not sold on how big of a choke those games really were. should they have won those games? absolutely. but Bucknell took the team that beat Kansas and cracked the Top 25 this year. Bradley beat Pittsburgh after knocking off KU. not trying to justify, just saying that i think both of those teams were better than their seeds and this year KU wasn't as good as theirs.

[mizzoudmbfan]

You're right! And you can voice that opinion by submitting your Top 25 poll to me. If we get a couple more by this afternoon, I'll go ahead and post the updated version.

Just so you know that (drunken)comment I made last night about the previously flawed blah blah blah was all tongue in cheek. I don't really have a problem with the polls, I think it's cool how we do our own polls here in the collegiate threads.

[mizzoudmbfan]

settle down man, i was just fucking with you. i knew you were fucked up when you posted what you did and was just having some fun with it. and the reason i put quotation marks around choking was because i'm not sold on how big of a choke those games really were. should they have won those games? absolutely. but Bucknell took the team that beat Kansas and cracked the Top 25 this year. Bradley beat Pittsburgh after knocking off KU. not trying to justify, just saying that i think both of those teams were better than their seeds and this year KU wasn't as good as theirs.

It's all good in the hood.

But you gotta kind of like the whole "I'll will not stand idly by while our nations youth piss away their hopes and dreams on another Larry Brownless kU squad."....yes, no, maybe? ok, maybe I'm not as funny drunk as I think I am.

And yes I did puss out and put that little disclaimer in there last night because I gotta face facts you guys were pretty damn good this past season and you arent losing anyone(except my favorite kU player) coming into next year.

[SteelerMan]

Just so you know that (drunken)comment I made last night about the previously flawed blah blah blah was all tongue in cheek. I don't really have a problem with the polls, I think it's cool how we do our own polls here in the collegiate threads.

Oh, it's cool. I was just messing around too. But seriously, you should submit a poll if you want. It doesn't take as long as I thought it would.

[SteelerMan]

Did you get mine or do I need to resend it?

I got it. We have four thus far. Just waiting for a couple more...

[seekupig]

But seriously, you should submit a poll if you want. It doesn't take as long as I thought it would.

yeah, i thought it would take awhile but it didn't. i took one of the other preseason polls that's already out and just started shifting the teams around. i added a few that weren't in and took out a few that i'm not quite sold on yet.

[SteelerMan]

yeah, i thought it would take awhile but it didn't. i took one of the other preseason polls that's already out and just started shifting the teams around. i added a few that weren't in and took out a few that i'm not quite sold on yet.

Yeah, that's what I did. I started with Andy Katz's poll on ESPN.com, which I thought was already pretty good, then made my own adjustments.

[haildmb]

The funny thing is that seekupig (our resident Kansas fan) isn't the one who put Kansas at #1... I did, and I'm a UNC fan. He put UNC #1.



when I saw the poll, I actually figured that was the case :lol

[chiznaz]

I can't wait to see Ohio State's freshmen next year. :thumbsup


:thumbsup Ah, football, can't wait.

I think OU is bringing in enough talent that they could have a KU type season of last year. Not win the conference though, because the conference will be better next year. But more likely they will have an Oklahoma St type season of last year and be ready to go in '08.

I'm pumped for A&M's freshmen who are coming him. Not quite the caliber as Oklahoma's, but they definitely fit the mold for A&M's game. We're going to have a 6'8freshman, 6'10 RSfreshman, and a 6'9 Junior who will push for All BigXII. Not to mention having Acie Laww running the point:)

[SteelerMan]

Alright... here's the updated Ants 2006-2007 Preseason Poll. If you don't like it, the best thing to do is to make a difference by sending me your poll.

1. Florida (117)(2)
2. UNC (116)(1)
3. Ohio State (115)(1)
4. Kansas (112)(1)
5. UCLA (103)
6. Texas (100)
7. LSU (89)
8. Georgetown (86)
9. Memphis (79)
10. Duke (78)
11. UConn (67)
12(t). Alabama (66)
12(t). Arizona (66)
14. Pittsburgh (62)
15. Texas A & M (46)
16. California (36)
17. Boston College (34)
18. Oklahoma State (32)
19. Wisconsin (27)
20. Kentucky (24)
21. Villanova (21)
22. Tennessee (19)
23. Washington (14)
24. Louisville (13)
25. Miami (11)

Also Receiving Votes: Gonzaga (10), Kansas State (10), Florida State (9), Xavier (8), USC (8), Marquette (7), Illinois (6), NC State (6), Michigan (6), Clemson (6), Michigan State (5), Virginia (5), Southern Illinois (3), Oklahoma (1), Indiana (1)

Contributors: SteelerMan, seekupig, Holycow, ousooner, Lee3691

[haildmb]

hurray, my school still doesn't have a coach!

[mizzoudmbfan]

I don't really have anything against Duke, just saw this online and thought it was atleast mildly amusing:

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?op=article&article_id=1195236#top

[seekupig]

I don't really have anything against Duke, just saw this online and thought it was atleast mildly amusing:

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?op=article&article_id=1195236#top

do you own this shirt yet? i figured they probably give them out at freshmen orientation, but i wanted to ask you......

http://www.gamedaytshirt.com/product.php5?ProductID=97

[DixieChixen]

:lol nice

these can (and do) get ridiculous.

[rconverse]

That pretty funny. Fuckers! :)

[seekupig]

here's a good website for some funny college t-shirts. they're mostly midwest schools right now with the exception of Georgia. some pretty funny shit on here.......

http://www.gamedaytshirt.com/gdgear.php5

if you click on a shirt for a school, it'll show the other shirts available.

[ousooner]

Jeff Capel gets his first major test. Scottie Reynolds, the McDonald's All American point guard Kelvin Sampson signed has asked to be released from his letter of intent. Capel was supposed to visit him today.

[HolyCow]

Jeff Capel gets his first major test. Scottie Reynolds, the McDonald's All American point guard Kelvin Sampson signed has asked to be released from his letter of intent. Capel was supposed to visit him today.

I am worried. They acted like on the Animal today that we might lose some of the others.

Not really fair to Capel. He is going to be under a lot of pressure and then he may lose some very important players.

[UNC41]

I am worried. They acted like on the Animal today that we might lose some of the others.

Not really fair to Capel. He is going to be under a lot of pressure and then he may lose some very important players.

I don't think its unfair to Capel at all. These days, so many recruits sign with a coach much more than they sign with a school. It is something Capel should have pretty much anticipated when he signed on.

[seekupig]

I don't think its unfair to Capel at all. These days, so many recruits sign with a coach much more than they sign with a school.

no shit man, where do you think Tyler Hansboro (Missouri native) planned on going to school before Roy Williams left KU for UNC? ;)

[ousooner]

I just hope he doesn't end up at Indiana or anywhere else in the Big 12. Kelvin said last week that he hasn't talked to any of the OU recruits and that it would be unethical for him to contact them.

Edit: He's from Virginia too, I think three hours from VCU. He should be pretty familiar with Capel. Hopefully that's not why he wants out.

[SteelerMan]

I don't think its unfair to Capel at all. These days, so many recruits sign with a coach much more than they sign with a school. It is something Capel should have pretty much anticipated when he signed on.

:thumbsup

True. I am of the opinion that you really can't judge a new coach until he's had a chance to put his own recruiting class through three seasons.

[UNC41]

no shit man, where do you think Tyler Hansboro (Missouri native) planned on going to school before Roy Williams left KU for UNC? ;)

And what did that Hansbrough kid ever do ... :D

[mizzoudmbfan]

Yeah, thats how we got Brad Smith(in football) we hire Gary Pinkel from Toledo in 2001 he brings in some relatively unknown kid his staff has been recruiting from Youngstown Ohio. 5 years later he has held 69 different records including the NCAA rushing record for QBs and the first player to throw for 8k and run for 4k.

But at the same time assistants make a big difference too. Quin Snyder and his staff had been recruiting a kid from back east named Keon Lawrence. After the changing of guards from Snyder to Mike Anderson Lawrence starts making some noise about wanting out of his LOI. A couple of weeks go by, Anderson begins to name his new staff and as soon as it is known Melvin Watkins is going to be retained the kid says he is going to honor his LOI. Apparently Watkins had been the most active coach in his recruiting process. So the fact that he was no longer going to play under Coach Snyder's awesome system or take advantage of Snyder's winning ways and advanced player development[/sarcasm] didn't matter to him as long as Watkins stayed around.

I think alot of it is just about HS prima donas trying to squeeze out a little more attention.

just my .02

[chiznaz]

Yeah, thats how we got Brad Smith(in football) we hire Gary Pinkel from Toledo in 2001 he brings in some relatively unknown kid his staff has been recruiting from Youngstown Ohio. 5 years later he has held 69 different records including the NCAA rushing record for QBs and the first player to throw for 8k and run for 4k.

But at the same time assistants make a big difference too. Quin Snyder and his staff had been recruiting a kid from back east named Keon Lawrence. After the changing of guards from Snyder to Mike Anderson Lawrence starts making some noise about wanting out of his LOI. A couple of weeks go by, Anderson begins to name his new staff and as soon as it is known Melvin Watkins is going to be retained the kid says he is going to honor his LOI. Apparently Watkins had been the most active coach in his recruiting process. So the fact that he was no longer going to play under Coach Snyder's awesome system or take advantage of Snyder's winning ways and advanced player development[/sarcasm] didn't matter to him as long as Watkins stayed around.

I think alot of it is just about HS prima donas trying to squeeze out a little more attention.

just my .02

Watkins is a good recruiter(hell he brought Antoine Wright to A&M yrs ago), but he absolutely blows as a coach. I think though that the state of Texas also wasn't a good fit for him. He didn't have any real ties here. He'll bring in some decent guys for your team.

[seekupig]

if anyone's interested, here's the list of all underclassmen that have declared for the draft so far. any player with an * by his name hasn't signed with an agent and will be able to withdraw their name before the deadline if they choose to do so.

i didn't realize that Rondo had left Kentucky and signed with an agent already.....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/ncaa/early.entries/index.html

[mizzoudmbfan]

"Lack of Institutional Control" for ol' Kansas U.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/14399337.htm

I just happen to be spending time in Lowrents KS when this is released, not a bad day at all for me.

"The NCAA alleged that Kansas’ athletic department demonstrated a “lack of institutional control” during a six-year period that was marred by academic fraud within the Jayhawks’ football program and rules violations that were known about but not reported."

"Regarding men’s basketball, Kansas self-reported that former coach Roy Williams knew of and approved cash payments and gifts from boosters to players who had finished their careers. The school said Williams had been told — incorrectly — that such payments were permissible."

"? During that period, Kansas permitted the position of compliance auditor to be vacant on three separate occasions. In all, Kansas went 20 months without the position being filled.

? Kansas officials knew about but failed to report in a timely manner 26 secondary rules violations to the NCAA enforcement staff.

? The athletics department failed to provide NCAA rules education to coaches and boosters.

? Kansas’ football staff was aware that multiple prospective student athletes were living on campus from May to August of 2003, yet the staff members failed to determine what was and wasn’t permissible for prospects who had yet to gain eligibility. They also failed to monitor their activities, which led in part to the alleged academic fraud."

According to KC sports radio(world renown for their kU homerism) "worse than what MU ever dreamed of"

[Third Floor]

Coach #7 to be offered by state:

steve lavin
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=85316

[ousooner]

Royce, what do you think about this recruiting bs? I hope Capel doesn't beg them anymore then he already has and just lets them go. F em'!

[ousooner]

Why is it against NCAA rules to phone a junior in basketball, but juniors in football can sign a letter of intent? Does that make any sense to any of you?

[Third Floor]

reports are that lavin prefers ESPN to state.

who is #8. maybe beilen

[seekupig]

"Lack of Institutional Control" for ol' Kansas U.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/14399337.htm

I just happen to be spending time in Lowrents KS when this is released, not a bad day at all for me.

"The NCAA alleged that Kansas’ athletic department demonstrated a “lack of institutional control” during a six-year period that was marred by academic fraud within the Jayhawks’ football program and rules violations that were known about but not reported."

"Regarding men’s basketball, Kansas self-reported that former coach Roy Williams knew of and approved cash payments and gifts from boosters to players who had finished their careers. The school said Williams had been told — incorrectly — that such payments were permissible."

"? During that period, Kansas permitted the position of compliance auditor to be vacant on three separate occasions. In all, Kansas went 20 months without the position being filled.

? Kansas officials knew about but failed to report in a timely manner 26 secondary rules violations to the NCAA enforcement staff.

? The athletics department failed to provide NCAA rules education to coaches and boosters.

? Kansas’ football staff was aware that multiple prospective student athletes were living on campus from May to August of 2003, yet the staff members failed to determine what was and wasn’t permissible for prospects who had yet to gain eligibility. They also failed to monitor their activities, which led in part to the alleged academic fraud."

According to KC sports radio(world renown for their kU homerism) "worse than what MU ever dreamed of"

has this happened again, or is this the same story i read about last summer?

[ousooner]

has this happened again, or is this the same story i read about last summer?
Quit cheating ;)

[seekupig]

Quit cheating ;)

now we all know the REAL reason Roy left Kansas...... :lol

[mizzoudmbfan]

has this happened again, or is this the same story i read about last summer?

You guys self reported some stuff within the last year. The NCAA investigated, decided there was more to it and called it "lack of...". You have a hearing sometime this summer to decide if your self imposed probation is severe enough or not.

Who knows what will happen.

[seekupig]

You guys self reported some stuff within the last year. The NCAA investigated, decided there was more to it and called it "lack of...". You have a hearing sometime this summer to decide if your self imposed probation is severe enough or not.

Who knows what will happen.

either way, it shouldn't have any effect on the basketball team. i love the football team too, but i doubt anyone would notice if they lost a couple of scholarships or were banned from post season play..... :lol

[ousooner]

either way, it shouldn't have any effect on the basketball team. i love the football team too, but i doubt anyone would notice if they lost a couple of scholarships or were banned from post season play..... :lol
I don't know, the fat man has you guys looking up.

[seekupig]

I don't know, the fat man has you guys looking up.

yeah, but at the end of the day we still play in the Big XII. KU is a basketball school. i'm glad we're getting more competitve in football, but getting better isn't going to make it happen in that conference. it would take a miracle for them to ever win the Big XII.

[ousooner]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nc