Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released [Archive] - Page 53

seekupig

04-27-2006, 12:24 AM

So which is more embarrassing, hiring a coach that your recruits won't play for or not being able to hire a coach at all?

Edit: I still like Jeff Capel and think it's a good hire.

i think both are blown way out of proportion. Oklahoma will be fine and so will NC State. and when i say that NC State will be fine, i mean by realistic expectations, not State Fan's expectations. they should continue to be a top five team in the conference and make the NCAA tourney most years. anything on top of that is extra IMO.

chiznaz

04-27-2006, 01:28 AM

i think both are blown way out of proportion. Oklahoma will be fine and so will NC State. and when i say that NC State will be fine, i mean by realistic expectations, not State Fan's expectations. they should continue to be a top five team in the conference and make the NCAA tourney most years. anything on top of that is extra IMO.

I have no clue how they're holding onto the rest of their commits. If I had signed with them, and was in this situation, I personally would want out.

SteelerMan

04-27-2006, 02:53 PM

I said this a long time ago, but I'll say it again: NC State should hire Matt Doherty.

UNLTrpt

04-27-2006, 03:21 PM

Nebraska lost one of their assistant coaches today to Wichita St. I wouldn't be all upset about it but he's been the one who's brought in a lot of our "good" recruits. In reality, he was the only thing keeping Barry Collier here at Nebraska. Barry is gone after this year barring a miracle.

SteelerMan

04-27-2006, 05:31 PM

Two reasons I want to see Matt Doherty at NC State:

1) Everytime he's interviewed, he can start out really nice and calm... then when someone mentions UNC, he can snap ala Bob Backlund and put the guy interviewing him in the cross face chicken wing while screaming "I recruited THE FRESHMEN!!! I DESERVE A RING!!!" (hopefully someone gets the Backlund reference...)

2) "Son, I know you're considering Duke... but let me tell you a little secret... they have the ugliest cheerleaders."

mizzoudmbfan

04-27-2006, 05:39 PM

SteelerMan

04-27-2006, 05:44 PM

Why do you keep talking about Matt Doherty to NCState? You do know he has been hired by SMU, right?

Whoa... I missed out on the SMU announement somehow. I thought he was still with Florida Atlantic. :o

Third Floor

04-29-2006, 02:17 AM

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?productNo=55786276&pr=F&showbleed=false&tab=1&Zoom=1

seekupig

04-29-2006, 02:28 AM

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?productNo=55786276&pr=F&showbleed=false&tab=1&Zoom=1

:thumbsup :lol

there will be more people wearing those than not by the time that this is all done.

Phil Ford is next up on the list..... :lol

haildmb

04-29-2006, 08:22 AM

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?productNo=55786276&pr=F&showbleed=false&tab=1&Zoom=1

:lol I need to get one of those

edit: actually what I need to do is send state a resume. I think I've got a chance!

Third Floor

04-29-2006, 01:15 PM

johnny- ive looked, but they still havent put it up on the hr website.

Third Floor

05-04-2006, 02:33 PM

what does a 79-228 record as a NBA head coach get you?

the nc state head coaching position

SteelerMan

05-04-2006, 04:08 PM

Hmmm... a guard from a championship team in the early 80's going back to his alma mater in North Carolina to coach after multiple other candidates turned down the position. Sounds familiar.

chiznaz

05-06-2006, 12:05 AM

For all of you OU guys. Damion James was at the Aggie Basketball Banquet last night. He's supposed to make another stop sometime in College Station after the All-Star game in San Antonio tonight.:D Thanks for the release. Just kidding...

chiznaz

05-08-2006, 04:53 AM

Damn you Sooners! Respond to me:lol

HolyCow

05-08-2006, 01:32 PM

Damn you Sooners! Respond to me:lol
Well the three guys that asked for release got it. So you might get him.

Sad.

chiznaz

05-09-2006, 06:10 PM

better not be the only one during the summer keeping this thread up:)

Darrel Arthur commits to Kansas. And to think some KU ppl want Self out:lol

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/051006dnspoarthur.253a92a6.html

DixieChixen

05-09-2006, 06:23 PM

you wont be. There is PLENTY to talk about w/ the new froshies.

seekupig

05-10-2006, 12:50 AM

Darrel Arthur commits to Kansas. And to think some KU ppl want Self out:lol

Darrell Arthur surprised even his mother Tuesday with his college choice.
The 6-9 South Oak Cliff star said he went to bed Monday night thinking Baylor. But after prayerful consideration, and a dream that he considered a sign, he woke up with a different school in mind.
"I was dreaming about Kansas all night," Arthur said.

:lol

this doesn't suck. :D

HolyCow

05-10-2006, 12:53 AM

seekupig

05-10-2006, 12:58 AM

And to think some KU ppl want Self out:lol

i wasn't one of those people, but he is responsible for the only two first round losses since the 1970's. KU fans can be a bit spoiled at times....

unccrombie

05-15-2006, 01:31 PM

two good stories

usc player shot to death: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2443805

unc/gonzaga headline nit: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2441833

ousooner

05-22-2006, 12:06 AM

Good to see we got our first verbal committment for the class of 2009. What are the odds that he follows through with his committment?

seekupig

05-22-2006, 12:17 AM

What are the odds that he follows through with his committment?

i'd put it at 70/30 right now. we'll know more after we see what Capel can do this season. this coming season is huge for OU in my opinion. they don't need to be great, but Capel needs to prove to potential recruits that he has what it takes to coach in a major conference.

ousooner

05-22-2006, 01:22 AM

i'd put it at 70/30 right now. we'll know more after we see what Capel can do this season. this coming season is huge for OU in my opinion. they don't need to be great, but Capel needs to prove to potential recruits that he has what it takes to coach in a major conference.
Yeah, I agree. If he turns out to be a Quin Snyder or Tommy Amaker then we're in trouble. The kid is from somewhere in Oklahoma and they say he will be one of the top players in the country his senior season. I just think it's ridiculous that kids commit this early. Capel seems to be a good recruiter though. He's already locked up the top two in state for next season and one is a Top 20 nationally 5 star forward.

seekupig

05-22-2006, 01:25 AM

Yeah, I agree. If he turns out to be a Quin Snyder or Tommy Amaker then we're in trouble. The kid is from somewhere in Oklahoma and they say he will be one of the top players in the country his senior season. I just think it's ridiculous that kids commit this early. Capel seems to be a good recruiter though. He's already locked up the top two in state for next season and one is a Top 20 nationally 5 star forward.

:thumbsup that's good to hear. it's good for the conference when everyone stays competitive. i like beating OU, but it would lose it's luster if they weren't a top 25 team anymore.

by the way, did you hear about this guy........ :D

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....253a92a6.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/051006dnspoarthur.253a92a6.html)

ousooner

05-24-2006, 10:05 PM

Wow, this is pretty wild. What do you guys think of this?

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9459096

Word is starting to leak about a bizarre new NCAA rule that will go down as one of the worst ideas in recent college sports history -- a rule that could make a free agent of the leading returning scorer in college basketball.

Here comes the rule, and as you read it, keep in mind that this is not a joke. This is not fiction. This is real, and this is the rule:

HolyCow

05-24-2006, 11:27 PM

That is stupid. The NCAA is a joke among jokes.

On other news, I hate Damion James.

ousooner

05-24-2006, 11:42 PM

That is stupid. The NCAA is a joke among jokes.

On other news, I hate Damion James.
I agree on the rule, I think it's ridiculous. I guess he's going to texas. I read where he said that it's always been a dream of his to play at UT. What a joke that is. How can a guy from texas sign with OU, then ask out, and say that it's always been his dream to play for the whorns?

HolyCow

05-24-2006, 11:58 PM

I agree on the rule, I think it's ridiculous. I guess he's going to texas. I read where he said that it's always been a dream of his to play at UT. What a joke that is. How can a guy from texas sign with OU, then ask out, and say that it's always been his dream to play for the whorns?
Makes me sick.

Any rumors on Scottie and the other guy?

ousooner

05-25-2006, 12:31 AM

Makes me sick.

Any rumors on Scottie and the other guy?
Mayfield signed with UAB and they are saying Reynolds is headed to Villanova. I have no clue what these guys are thinking. Villanova is not that great of a program, but it gets so much pub because it's on the east coast. And UAB? You've got to be kidding.

ousooner

05-25-2006, 06:46 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2457878

Sampson barred from off-campus recruitingESPN.com news services

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned new Indiana coach Kelvin Sampson from calling recruits and visiting them off-campus for one year on Thursday, ruling he deliberately broke its rules by making extra phone calls to potential players while coaching Oklahoma.

chiznaz

05-29-2006, 04:17 AM

I agree on the rule, I think it's ridiculous. I guess he's going to texas. I read where he said that it's always been a dream of his to play at UT. What a joke that is. How can a guy from texas sign with OU, then ask out, and say that it's always been his dream to play for the whorns?

What sucks is that he took around 4 trips to A&M after his release. Virtually all signs pointed to him signing with A&M, and he goes to the 'sips. That blows hard.

Lee3691

06-20-2006, 12:09 AM

UNC41

06-20-2006, 12:16 AM

As much as I like Farmar, being that he is a Jewish baller from the valley (and played at my high school before he transferred to Taft), I think Collinson will be a better pg for UCLA because he is much better defensively.

As much as I like to respect opinions, if you truly believe this you know absolutely nothing about college basketball.

Lee3691

06-20-2006, 09:51 AM

As much as I like to respect opinions, if you truly believe this you know absolutely nothing about college basketball.
I probably know a little bit more then somebody from one of the Dakotas - except for Mike Miller, has there even been another player to play in the NBA?. I truly believe this, because I truly watched most UCLA games this year, and I truly have shared this opinion throughout the year, that Collinson, as a point guard, was a better fit for this team.

Defense, speed, and shot selection are what Collinson brings to UCLA, and what hurts UCLA is that there is no backup pg now.

UNC41

06-20-2006, 10:26 AM

I probably know a little bit more then somebody from one of the Dakotas - except for Mike Miller, has there even been another player to play in the NBA?. I truly believe this, because I truly watched most UCLA games this year, and I truly have shared this opinion throughout the year, that Collinson, as a point guard, was a better fit for this team.

Defense, speed, and shot selection are what Collinson brings to UCLA, and what hurts UCLA is that there is no backup pg now.

Yes, because location equals sports knowledgs. You're also ignorant I see. What does Phil Jackson know about basketball? How could someone like him from North Dakota, who knows nothing about basketball, have won 10 NBA championshps.

I watched UCLA play around 12 times last year, and in about 10 of them Farmar was easily their best player. He may be a little inadequate defensively, but why wouldn't you want a guy who probably would have been the Pac-10 Preseason POY on your team. Not only was he the Bruins best player last year, but from what I saw a leader too. This year, it only seems natural that Afflalo has to step into that role, which would scare the hell out of me as a Bruin fan if I watched him during the NCAA tournament.

So, if you would rather have all of that than Farmar on your team then so be it. But you are also fine with losing a player who would make UCLA an easy top 4 team heading into the season next year.

Lee3691

06-21-2006, 01:47 AM

Yes, because location equals sports knowledgs. You're also ignorant I see. What does Phil Jackson know about basketball? How could someone like him from North Dakota, who knows nothing about basketball, have won 10 NBA championshps.

I watched UCLA play around 12 times last year, and in about 10 of them Farmar was easily their best player. He may be a little inadequate defensively, but why wouldn't you want a guy who probably would have been the Pac-10 Preseason POY on your team. Not only was he the Bruins best player last year, but from what I saw a leader too. This year, it only seems natural that Afflalo has to step into that role, which would scare the hell out of me as a Bruin fan if I watched him during the NCAA tournament.

So, if you would rather have all of that than Farmar on your team then so be it. But you are also fine with losing a player who would make UCLA an easy top 4 team heading into the season next year.
Absolutely location is an impact on sports. I wouldn't pretend to know as much about hockey or curling as someone from Canada or the Dakotas, because it's really not played here. I actually have nothing against North Dakota basketball, as one of my friends played college ball with Mike Miller's brother at SW Minnesota, but instead of stating an arguement, you went straight for an insult...so I had to remind you that here in Los Angeles, we probably know a thing or two more about basketball then N Dakota.

Farmar is a great player, no doubt, and was the leader of last year's team, true. However, if you really watched as much UCLA basketball as you say you did last year, you probably noticed that Farmer only played point guard half the game, as Colinson played a lot as a freshman. When they were in the game together, Colinson ran the offense - considering he was a freshman, and Farmer will be probably be a first rounder, that says a lot about his ability. More importantly, Colinson's game seems to fit better with the other players on UCLA, quicker, better defensively, and doesn't turn the ball over as much. My worry is now who is the other ballhandler, which is where I hope Affalo spends his offseason working on.

UNC41

06-21-2006, 02:04 AM

Absolutely location is an impact on sports. I wouldn't pretend to know as much about hockey or curling as someone from Canada or the Dakotas, because it's really not played here. I actually have nothing against North Dakota basketball, as one of my friends played college ball with Mike Miller's brother at SW Minnesota, but instead of stating an arguement, you went straight for an insult...so I had to remind you that here in Los Angeles, we probably know a thing or two more about basketball then N Dakota.

Farmar is a great player, no doubt, and was the leader of last year's team, true. However, if you really watched as much UCLA basketball as you say you did last year, you probably noticed that Farmer only played point guard half the game, as Colinson played a lot as a freshman. When they were in the game together, Colinson ran the offense - considering he was a freshman, and Farmer will be probably be a first rounder, that says a lot about his ability. More importantly, Colinson's game seems to fit better with the other players on UCLA, quicker, better defensively, and doesn't turn the ball over as much. My worry is now who is the other ballhandler, which is where I hope Affalo spends his offseason working on.

You didn't even address my question about Phil Jackson, one of the greatest basketball minds ever. And while you make a point about hockey in California, it doesn't apply because people play basketball here. In fact, more people play basketball than hockey. Saying that you know basketball because you are from California and I don't because I am from North Dakota is highly ignorant.

And if you think UCLA will be better without their best player, their leader, I am completely flabbergasted, but so be it.

P.S. Mike Miller is not from North Dakota.

Lee3691

06-21-2006, 10:10 AM

You didn't even address my question about Phil Jackson, one of the greatest basketball minds ever. And while you make a point about hockey in California, it doesn't apply because people play basketball here. In fact, more people play basketball than hockey. Saying that you know basketball because you are from California and I don't because I am from North Dakota is highly ignorant.

And if you think UCLA will be better without their best player, their leader, I am completely flabbergasted, but so be it.

P.S. Mike Miller is not from North Dakota.
I am sure there might be a few people who, despite the odds of the quality of basketball being played there, know a thing or two about basketball. Phil Jackson is one of them; you are not.

And ot clarify, I di not exactly say UCLA would be better without Farmar. I said Colinson would be a better pg for this team. The problem UCLA will run into next year will be who else handles the ball. That is the one weakness of next year's team.

gbs3769

06-21-2006, 10:31 AM

I am sure there might be a few people who, despite the odds of the quality of basketball being played there, know a thing or two about basketball. Phil Jackson is one of them; you are not.
Actually, Bryan knows his basketball. If you go back through the past year and look at the discussions about the season you will definitely see that he knew his basketball all season long.

- Primo

UNC41

06-21-2006, 10:55 AM

I am sure there might be a few people who, despite the odds of the quality of basketball being played there, know a thing or two about basketball. Phil Jackson is one of them; you are not.

And ot clarify, I di not exactly say UCLA would be better without Farmar. I said Colinson would be a better pg for this team. The problem UCLA will run into next year will be who else handles the ball. That is the one weakness of next year's team.

In college basketball, a PG's importance to a team is much more than just the numbers you see on a stat sheet. Farmar gave UCLA all of those intangibles. He's a natural leader and a guy you whose hands you want the ball on at the end of a game. He's also a more complete offensive player at the position. Defensively, Collison is better, but everything else Farmar brings makes up for that.

Also, in a previous post one of your reasons thinkng Collison will be better is he'll turn the ball over less. I'd rather look at a player's assist-to-turnover ratio than solely the number of turnovers he commits any day of the week, and Farmar's was higher both years he was at UCLA than Collison's last year.

I'm done with this argument. You're not going to be swayed, and I'm sure as hell not going to be either.

UNC41

06-21-2006, 10:55 AM

Actually, Bryan knows his basketball. If you go back through the past year and look at the discussions about the season you will definitely see that he knew his basketball all season long.

- Primo

Yeah, I find time to watch a game or two during the season when I'm not banging my sister.

gbs3769

06-21-2006, 10:58 AM

Yeah, I find time to watch a game or two during the season when I'm not banging my sister.
:lol Nice self pwn.

I can't wait for basketball season to start! I love my seats in the Carrier Dome. I wouldn't trade them for the world.

Our recruits look really solid this year. I just hope that Mike Jones actually gets the SAT/ACT score he needs to be able to attend classes in the fall. How cool will it be to bring a sign to every game that just says: "WHO?"

- Primo

UNC41

06-21-2006, 12:07 PM

Third Floor

06-21-2006, 12:20 PM

wheres wake forest in that midsummer list?

oh wait, we'll have 7 freshmen. hurray young team

gbs3769

06-21-2006, 12:25 PM

I can't wait either Primo. I don't know much about Cuse's recruting class, but they've got a lot of solid pieces coming back. They'll miss Gerry, but so many teams in the Big East lost much more and they could be a sleeper in the conference.

Here's the new midsummer preseason top 25 from espn.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2491073
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&toinid=384&yr=2006

Devin Brennan-McBride
Mike Jones
Paul Harris

#19 recruiting class for the year.

Our 2007 recruits look even better.

- Primo

UNC41

06-21-2006, 12:44 PM

wheres wake forest in that midsummer list?

oh wait, we'll have 7 freshmen. hurray young team

On the bright side, it can't get worse than last season.

UNC41

06-21-2006, 12:46 PM

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&toinid=384&yr=2006

Devin Brennan-McBride
Mike Jones
Paul Harris

#19 recruiting class for the year.

Our 2007 recruits look even better.

- Primo

That 2007 class look like it could be scary. Four top 50 prospects. From what it looks like they'll be bringing some athletic wings this year, and then pieces to fit around them the next. It has all the making of a nice run in 2008 on paper.

Lee3691

06-22-2006, 12:18 AM

UNC41

06-22-2006, 10:53 AM

Duke won't be a huge suprise team. Even with losing two All-Americans, McRoberts and Paulus, plus a great recruting class, will make the top 15 team next season. Also, they won't win the ACC. North Carolina has better talent returning and a better recruting class than Duke, not to mention the best player in the conference.

Texas is a team that has a chance to do what North Carolina did this past year. They could be the true suprise team in the nation. Like last year's Heels, Texas will be battling for second in the Big XII because Kansas has it locked down. I understand your thinking with them. Kevin Durant is going to be a big time player.

UNC41

06-25-2006, 03:15 PM

Please don't let this happen. The tournament does not need to expand.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2500025

HolyCow

06-25-2006, 10:28 PM

Please don't let this happen. The tournament does not need to expand.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2500025
Seriously. Don't touch the thing. It is perfect the way it is.

It would be absolutely stupid to let this happen.

It would make the regular season absolutely worthless.

seekupig

06-26-2006, 01:10 AM

More on college ball...

As much talent as Duke has lost, I think they are going to be a surprise team in the nation - and maybe still win the ACC. McRoberts *might* be the ACC player of the year next year.

Also, even though Texas has lost a lot of talent, I expect they will have a good year too..

- Duke will never be a suprise team.
- that being said, they WILL NOT win the ACC.
- McRoberts might be the ACC player of the year..... if Hansboro dies
- Texas will be good, but not nearly good enough to win their conference. the Big XII will go like this next season.....

1. Kansas
2-12. Everyone Else University

seekupig

06-26-2006, 01:13 AM

Please don't let this happen. The tournament does not need to expand.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2500025

i actually like the idea. maybe this way, KU can make it out of the first round...

UNC41

06-26-2006, 01:16 AM

i actually like the idea. maybe this way, KU can make it out of the first round...

You really don't want them to be the 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed do you. Do you honestly like expanding it?

seekupig

06-26-2006, 01:19 AM

You really don't want them to be the 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed do you. Do you honestly like expanding it?

no, i hate the idea. i was making a quick joke at KU's expense, but my ":lol" didn't make it in the post. i think it's perfect the way it is. watering the field down with one more round of meaningless games would only give the big dogs a warm up game and reduce the amount of actual upsets we see.

unccrombie

06-26-2006, 01:25 AM

no, i hate the idea. i was making a quick joke at KU's expense, but my ":lol" didn't make it in the post. i think it's perfect the way it is. watering the field down with one more round of meaningless games would only give the big dogs a warm up game and reduce the amount of actual upsets we see.
and thus the 2nd greatest tournament would be a shit hole. oh well, at least theres the world cup

seekupig

06-26-2006, 01:29 AM

and thus the 2nd greatest tournament would be a shit hole. oh well, at least theres the world cup

:thumbsup i'm pulling for a Germany v. Brazil final, with Germany taking it.

this coming basketball season looks to be the best chance at a UNC vs. Kansas final that we've seen in a while....

UNC41

06-26-2006, 01:54 AM

:thumbsup i'm pulling for a Germany v. Brazil final, with Germany taking it.

this coming basketball season looks to be the best chance at a UNC vs. Kansas final that we've seen in a while....

I'm hoping Francs pwns everyone.

There's nothing I'd rather see, aside from UNC vs. Duke, than UNC vs. Kansas for all the marbles.

seekupig

06-26-2006, 02:01 AM

There's nothing I'd rather see, aside from UNC vs. Duke, than UNC vs. Kansas for all the marbles.

i'd love it too, but i'd have a hard time watching the game in a public place....

UNC41

06-26-2006, 02:10 AM

i'd love it too, but i'd have a hard time watching the game in a public place....

I'd be a suicide mission.

mizzoudmbfan

06-26-2006, 02:46 AM

:thumbsup i'm pulling for a Germany v. Brazil final, with Germany taking it.

I swear to God we will NEVER agree on anything. This is ridiculous.

:lol

unccrombie

06-26-2006, 05:58 PM

:thumbsup i'm pulling for a Germany v. Brazil final, with Germany taking it.

this coming basketball season looks to be the best chance at a UNC vs. Kansas final that we've seen in a while....
the only way brazil is going to lose is if someone attacks their center D. germany has been playing better as of late so we'll see. this swiss game is awful though :lol

seekupig

06-27-2006, 12:05 AM

UNC41

06-27-2006, 02:54 AM

the link to this was posted earlier, but got lost in the tournament expansion discussion. here's ESPN's midsummer top 25 poll, what do you all think?

1. Florida
2. Kansas
3. North Carolina
4. Pitt
5. LSU
6. Georgetown
7. Ohio State
8. Arizona
9. Wisconsin
10. Texas A&M
11. UCLA
12. Duke
13. Boston College
14. Alabama
15. UConn
16. Memphis
17. Georgia Tech
18. Gonzaga
19. Washington
20. Marquette
21. Wichita State
22. Creighton
23. Villanova
24. Louisville
25. Texas

I think Tyler Hansborough is the best player in the nation and Florida is not as good as it was when it is expected to be the best team in the nation rather than a good team in the third best conference.

chiznaz

06-27-2006, 05:49 AM

You didn't even address my question about Phil Jackson, one of the greatest basketball minds ever. And while you make a point about hockey in California, it doesn't apply because people play basketball here. In fact, more people play basketball than hockey. Saying that you know basketball because you are from California and I don't because I am from North Dakota is highly ignorant.

And if you think UCLA will be better without their best player, their leader, I am completely flabbergasted, but so be it.

P.S. Mike Miller is not from North Dakota.

Yes, because location equals sports knowledgs. You're also ignorant I see. What does Phil Jackson know about basketball? How could someone like him from North Dakota, who knows nothing about basketball, have won 10 NBA championshps.

Everyone who hates Phil Jackson as much as I do knows he didn't invent the Triangle Offense, rather is was his assistant Tex Winter :P

UNC41

06-27-2006, 12:57 PM

Everyone who hates Phil Jackson as much as I do knows he didn't invent the Triangle Offense, rather is was his assistant Tex Winter :P

That doesn't take 10 rings off his fingers.

seekupig

06-27-2006, 01:19 PM

I think Tyler Hansborough is the best player in the nation and Florida is not as good as it was when it is expected to be the best team in the nation rather than a good team in the third best conference.

:thumbsup

Hansboro was damn near unstoppable last year, i'm actually looking forward to watching him this year.

i agree with you on Florida as well. they looked like an average team for most of the year that got hot at the right time. taking nothing away from them, that's what it takes to win a title, but i don't think they're a top 3 team this coming season. Florida and Kansas are set to play in Las Vegas at one of the Thanksgiving tournaments this year, that'll be a good guage of where both teams are...

UNC41

06-27-2006, 01:38 PM

:thumbsup

Hansboro was damn near unstoppable last year, i'm actually looking forward to watching him this year.

i agree with you on Florida as well. they looked like an average team for most of the year that got hot at the right time. taking nothing away from them, that's what it takes to win a title, but i don't think they're a top 3 team this coming season. Florida and Kansas are set to play in Las Vegas at one of the Thanksgiving tournaments this year, that'll be a good guage of where both teams are...

That should be a hell of a game. I still think Florida will be good this year because of the championship experience and the large amount of talent on the team, but I'm not so sure they are the best team in the nation like everyone will anoint them as. I do think they are top 3 — UNC, Kansas and Florida are what I would call Tier 1 teams with everyone else below those three.

seekupig

06-27-2006, 01:45 PM

That should be a hell of a game. I still think Florida will be good this year because of the championship experience and the large amount of talent on the team, but I'm not so sure they are the best team in the nation like everyone will anoint them as. I do think they are top 3 — UNC, Kansas and Florida are what I would call Tier 1 teams with everyone else below those three.

i'd put Ohio St. and Arizona ahead of them (eventually, not preseason). have to wait and see how long Greg Oden is out with that surgery he had. could miss part of the season...

UNC41

06-27-2006, 02:53 PM

i'd put Ohio St. and Arizona ahead of them (eventually, not preseason). have to wait and see how long Greg Oden is out with that surgery he had. could miss part of the season...

Depending on Oden's health and how the team comes together I can understand Ohio St. With Mustafa Shakur at the point, however, I don't trust Arizona.

madpainter

06-27-2006, 06:51 PM

seekupig

06-27-2006, 07:17 PM

how does everyone think dee brown from illinois is gonna do in the nba? this is kind of an off topic but semi related :) LOL i know that one center from florida is really good noah i believe? should he have come out this year?

i think Dee Brown will be decent. nothing special, but good enough to play a little and stick around.

as far as Noah goes, yes he's good. i think he's a little small for the NBA right now, but i don't think his draft status is going to go up by staying at Florida. the best thing that can happen is he'll have another season like last year and remain a lottery pick, the worst thing is that he'll get hurt and will wish he'd left this year.

gbs3769

06-28-2006, 03:45 PM

According to the Syracuse Post-Standard, Syracuse recruit, Mike Jones, has received a qualifying score on his SATs.

I can't wait for the first game when I can bring a sign that reads, "WHO?"

- Primo

chiznaz

06-29-2006, 05:51 AM

That doesn't take 10 rings off his fingers.

But it does take away a lot of the "godliness" assocciated with him:eek

But as for college basketball, I'm more excited for bball than I am for this football season. Gillispie has this team running smoothly. This is A&Ms coming out year. We're going to be legit in the BigXII for years and years:)

unccrombie

06-29-2006, 02:58 PM

UNC41

06-29-2006, 05:09 PM

Thank God. We did not need 128 teams in the NCAA tournament.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2504515

seekupig

06-29-2006, 06:35 PM

Thank God. We did not need 128 teams in the NCAA tournament.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2504515

:thumbsup

seekupig

06-29-2006, 06:36 PM

But as for college basketball, I'm more excited for bball than I am for this football season. Gillispie has this team running smoothly. This is A&Ms coming out year. We're going to be legit in the BigXII for years and years:)

:thumbsup that battle for second place every year should be interesting....;) :D

chiznaz

06-29-2006, 07:30 PM

:thumbsup that battle for second place every year should be interesting....;) :D

I know right. With K-State bringing in some solid recruits now, they'll probably be challenging yall a lot more than people think.:)

seekupig

06-30-2006, 12:27 AM

I know right. With K-State bringing in some solid recruits now, they'll probably be challenging yall a lot more than people think.:)

crawl before you walk, Aggie..... mix in a few wins that mean something before you annoint your team the next coming in the Big XII....

chiznaz

06-30-2006, 06:53 AM

crawl before you walk, Aggie..... mix in a few wins that mean something before you annoint your team the next coming in the Big XII....

All I said was that we'll compete. We did beat t.u. at the end of the year, closed the season with 8 straight wins, smacked the hell out of 'Cuse in the tourny, and a lucky merry christmas shot from a final 4 team kept us out of the the sweet 16. Not to mention we only lose 2 players, one of which never really played. We also played yall real close up until the end:) I'm sure as hell excited for next season.

UNC41

07-05-2006, 11:20 AM

Some updates on the class of 2007.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=AqEe0C4uDBJJByQjncq7D345nYcB?slug=anythi ngbutordinary&prov=tsn&type=lgns

seekupig

07-14-2006, 12:34 PM

Big XII 2006-2007 preview on ESPN.com.... some good stuff on there.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2516830

Hot predictions: Kansas and Texas A&M
We informally polled league coaches, asking them to rank (or at least group) the Big 12. As such, the likely NCAA Tournament teams -- at least in July -- appear to be KU, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma State and Kansas State. The middle tier (shall we say NIT?) includes Texas Tech and Baylor. The unknowns are Missouri and Nebraska. The likely bottom-feeders are IowaState, Oklahoma and Colorado. :eek

gbs3769

07-14-2006, 02:46 PM

Big East announced regular season matchups today.

Syracuse will play home-and-home series against Connecticut, Villanova and St. John's. In addition, the Orange will play Cincinnati, DePaul, Georgetown, Notre Dame and Pittsburgh in the Carrier Dome. SU will travel to Louisville, Marquette, Providence, Rutgers and South Florida. Syracuse will not play Seton Hall and West Virginia this season.

- Primo

UNC41

07-24-2006, 05:03 PM

2006-07 ACC Preview by ESPN.com. So who is gonna finish second?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2528121

unccrombie

07-25-2006, 12:35 AM

2006-07 ACC Preview by ESPN.com. So who is gonna finish second?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2528121
terry for president...

budgrove

07-25-2006, 08:10 AM

P-I-T-T lets go pitt....gonna be #1!!!

chiznaz

07-29-2006, 06:08 AM

A&M just picked up a huge commit for graduating class of '07 in DeAndre Jordan. The kid is a monster and is going to be awesome. Also I think I read somewhere that the A&M-KU game is going to be the feature game on ESPN Gameday. I'm sure they'll be playing the Self/Gillispie teacher/student sotry a lot there.:)

seekupig

07-30-2006, 10:30 AM

P-I-T-T lets go pitt....gonna be #1!!!

in what?

ousooner

07-30-2006, 03:44 PM

in what?
Yeah, don't you just love these kind of posts?

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4748555&postcount=7760

UNLTrpt

08-07-2006, 11:50 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2542570

K Big 12 guys....what do you think?

bubba40

08-07-2006, 11:51 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2542570

K Big 12 guys....what do you think?

KU is going to be rough.

UNC41

08-08-2006, 12:04 AM

KU is going to be rough.

By rough I assume you mean hands down the best team in the Big XII.

bubba40

08-08-2006, 12:06 AM

By rough I assume you mean hands down the best team in the Big XII.

Yep. Easily.

UNC41

08-08-2006, 12:18 AM

Yep. Easily.

Yeah, Kansas and North Carolina are far and away better than everyone else in their respective conferences.

bubba40

08-08-2006, 12:20 AM

Yeah, Kansas and North Carolina are far and away better than everyone else in their respective conferences.

Yeah. Although it'll be interesting to see how the freshman mix in @ UNC.

seekupig

08-08-2006, 12:24 AM

Yeah, Kansas and North Carolina are far and away better than everyone else in their respective conferences.

:thumbsup

after those tough rebuilding years they both went through last season, this should be fun...... :multi

UNC41

08-08-2006, 12:38 AM

Yeah. Although it'll be interesting to see how the freshman mix in @ UNC.

With what Carolina has returning they already have the best nucleus in the ACC. Once you add in the best freshman class in the nation I have big expectations.

seekupig

08-08-2006, 12:51 AM

With what Carolina has returning they already have the best nucleus in the ACC. Once you add in the best freshman class in the nation I have big expectations.

they won't have any problems. Roy's been mixing returning stars with incoming recruits for years with great success. now that he's got a title under his belt i think it's going to get easier to get they guys to buy in. they'll be just fine....

UNC41

08-08-2006, 12:53 AM

:thumbsup

after those tough rebuilding years they both went through last season, this should be fun...... :multi

"Rebuilidng." :lol

With how talented UNC and Kansas are this year I think I'd almost rather see at Tar Heel vs. Jayhawk game for the national championship than one against Duke. The Roy Williams factor adds to this, but with the level of talent on both teams it would be a great game with all the marbles on the line.

Also, when I was waiting in the cab line at the Vegas airport the other week none other than Matt Doherty was about 20 people in front of me. Part of me wanted to punch him, but another part wanted to hug him for bringing Felton, May and McCants to UNC.

seekupig

08-08-2006, 12:58 AM

"Rebuilidng." :lol

With how talented UNC and Kansas are this year I think I'd almost rather see at Tar Heel vs. Jayhawk game for the national championship than one against Duke. The Roy Williams factor adds to this, but with the level of talent on both teams it would be a great game with all the marbles on the line.

i don't know if i want that or not. i couldn't watch the game with any of my friends or anywhere in public. win or lose, i'd be in some serious trouble. that being said, i can't think of any other game this year that would be more highly anticipated. the UNC/KU connections go back for years and the talent levels of both teams would make for an epic final.

UNC41

08-08-2006, 01:10 AM

It's nice to talk some college basketball again. I enjoy NCAA football, but it doesn't hold a candle to college basektball.

seekupig

08-08-2006, 01:12 AM

It's nice to talk some college basketball again. I enjoy NCAA football, but it doesn't hold a candle to college basektball.

:thumbsup

College Basketball > NFL > College Football

....is how i'd rank my top 3.

UNC41

08-08-2006, 01:16 AM

:thumbsup

College Basketball > NFL > College Football

....is how i'd rank my top 3.

I'd slot MLB and the English Premier League between the NFL and college football, but I get your drift.

UNLTrpt

08-08-2006, 01:19 AM

KU is going to be rough.

not really what I asked now was it?

bubba40

08-08-2006, 01:21 AM

not really what I asked now was it?

Huh?
I think KU is going to be the class of the Big XII.

seekupig

08-08-2006, 01:23 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2542570

K Big 12 guys....what do you think?

i think if taking a UTEP coach works out for Nebraska as well as it has for A&M, it's a good hire......

.... and KU is going to be rough.:D

seekupig

08-08-2006, 01:25 AM

Huh?
I think KU is going to be the class of the Big XII.

the link was to the new coaching hire for Nebraska, not a Big XII preview.

though if you're looking for that, it goes like this.....

1. Kansas
2-12. Everyone Else

UNC41

08-08-2006, 01:26 AM

the link was to the new coaching hire for Nebraska, not a Big XII preview.

though if you're looking for that, it goes like this.....

1. Kansas
2-12. Everyone Else

It's a good feeling I tell you. I think Brandon Rush is going to be a whole lot of fun to watch this year.

seekupig

08-08-2006, 01:30 AM

It's a good feeling I tell you. I think Brandon Rush is going to be a whole lot of fun to watch this year.

i think Julian Wright is the best player on the team. everytime he touches the ball, i feel something exciting is about to happen. his vision and touch are something not seen very often in someone of his size.

UNC41

08-08-2006, 01:33 AM

i think Julian Wright is the best player on the team. everytime he touches the ball, i feel something exciting is about to happen. his vision and touch are something not seen very often in someone of his size.

I agree with you there. Rush is just so damn exciting to watch.

UNLTrpt

08-08-2006, 01:48 PM

Huh?
I think KU is going to be the class of the Big XII.

did you even read the article? I was wanting a comment on the article...not your opinion of the Big XII

seekupig

08-08-2006, 02:13 PM

did you even read the article? I was wanting a comment on the article...not your opinion of the Big XII

i commented on it.

i think it's hard to comment on a coach that most know nothing about, though. especially when he's taking over a team that most know nothing about. you're a Nebraska fan so it makes sense that it's a big deal to you, but in the big scheme of things in college basketball, it's a pretty insignifigant hire. not trying to bash the Huskers, just stating what i feel...

UNLTrpt

08-08-2006, 02:28 PM

i commented on it.

i think it's hard to comment on a coach that most know nothing about, though. especially when he's taking over a team that most know nothing about. you're a Nebraska fan so it makes sense that it's a big deal to you, but in the big scheme of things in college basketball, it's a pretty insignifigant hire. not trying to bash the Huskers, just stating what i feel...

Sorry. I was talking to the other guy. Not you. I saw your comment on it.

seekupig

08-15-2006, 01:13 AM

i love Kansas State.... :lol

K-State player on sex offender registry, dismissed

The 21-year-old player was registered May 5 for aggravated indecent liberties with a child.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2549299

seekupig

10-18-2006, 12:14 AM

Duke point guard Greg Paulus (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=27023) has a break in the fifth metatarsal of his left foot and will be out of action indefinitely.

on the second day of practice....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2627817

seekupig

10-18-2006, 12:22 AM

Dick Vitale's preseason top 40......

1. North Carolina
2. Florida
3. Kansas
4. Ohio State
5. UCLA

http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/060713Top40.html

UNC41

10-18-2006, 12:29 AM

HolyCow

10-18-2006, 12:30 AM

UNLTrpt

10-18-2006, 12:36 AM

new coach at Nebraska. Doc Sadler. comes from UTEP.

He says we're going to run too.

damn it's gonna be a long season.

seekupig

10-18-2006, 12:38 AM

It's nice to see this thread back on the first page. I can't wait for the season to begin.

Lolz at Dukie V throwing UNC at No. 1. While I don't necessairly think Florida is the best team, they are deserving to start the year at the top after losing no starters.

i think UNC and even KU are better. but as you said, the defending national champs are returning all five starters. until they lose, they deserve the #1 ranking. and that will happen on the saturday night of Thanksgiving weekend at 10:15 EST when Florida and Kansas play in Las Vegas. :cool

seekupig

10-18-2006, 12:40 AM

new coach at Nebraska. Doc Sadler. comes from UTEP.

He says we're going to run too.

damn it's gonna be a long season.

same coach at Kansas. Bill Self. comes from a few different places.

says we're going to make it out of the first round this year.

i'll believe it when it happens.

UNC41

10-18-2006, 12:51 AM

I am really looking forward to watch Coach Capel brings to the Sooners. From what i understand, we are going to run for 40 straight minutes, which scares me a bit since our calling card with Kelvin was defense and rebounding.

If he runs anywhere near the way Roy does at Carolina, and has a PG who can handle it, you'll love watching the Sooners with that style. I can't wait for Lawson to make the transition to the college game down in Chapel Hill. Point guards are my favorite in college basketball. Ed Cota and Raymond Felton are my two favorite players ever to suit up for the Heels. From what I hear Lawson is very similar to Felton, just a little worse jump shot and a little bigger and quicker.

seekupig

10-18-2006, 12:55 AM

If he runs anywhere near the way Roy does at Carolina, and has a PG who can handle it, you'll love watching the Sooners with that style. I can't wait for Lawson to make the transition to the college game down in Chapel Hill. Point guards are my favorite in college basketball. Ed Cota and Raymond Felton are my two favorite players ever to suit up for the Heels. From what I hear Lawson is very similar to Felton, just a little worse jump shot and a little bigger and quicker.

expect a lot of turnovers early in the season. early word out of Chapel Hill is that Roy is a bit concerened at Lawson's lack of experience in a running offense. Roy said he wants this years team to run more than any team he's ever had to do the depth and athleticism, but the transition at PG may be a bit rocky at first. luckily they have the talent to overcome that and it shouldn't cost them any games..... :thumbsup

HolyCow

10-18-2006, 01:00 AM

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:00 AM

expect a lot of turnovers early in the season. early word out of Chapel Hill is that Roy is a bit concerened at Lawson's lack of experience in a running offense. Roy said he wants this years team to run more than any team he's ever had to do the depth and athleticism, but the transition at PG may be a bit rocky at first. luckily they have the talent to overcome that and it shouldn't cost them any games..... :thumbsup

I've heard to expect big improvements in QT this year. Is that what they are saying where you are at also?

seekupig

10-18-2006, 01:01 AM

I've heard to expect big improvements in QT this year. Is that what they are saying where you are at also?

yeah, they're not calling him QTO anymore so i guess that's a good sign. :lol

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:06 AM

I hope that is what he does.

Obviously, we don't have any of the athletes or players you guys have, but it still will be fun this year.

The depth and athleticism that UNC has this year will be awesome to watch, and should make them one of the best teams in the nation.

I hear Capel is quite the players coach, so if he can translate that into recruting success OU could have some athletes in the near future.

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:06 AM

yeah, they're not calling him QTO anymore so i guess that's a good sign. :lol

:lol

seekupig

10-18-2006, 01:07 AM

mizzoudmbfan

10-18-2006, 01:09 AM

Mike Anderson clap clap clap-clap-clap

Looking forward to the season.**Don't think we are going to be turning many heads this year but it can't get much worse than last season.**Mainly I'm looking forward to the change of scenery and hopefully an entire change in the culture of the hoops program.

same coach at Kansas. Bill Self. comes from a few different places.

says we're going to make it out of the first round this year.

i'll believe it when it happens.

So we meet again kansan.
*bows in reverence*

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:10 AM

this was just posted on ESPN.com......

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Jayhawks junior center C.J. Giles (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22179) is not practicing with the team while he attends to "personal issues," Kansas announced in a two-paragraph release Tuesday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2630179

that's how it started with Micah Downs last season.

translation - i'm not going to get any playing time, i'm outta here.

While KU may miss his size at times, it's not too big of a loss for you guys. Is Arthur going to be starting?

clayj41

10-18-2006, 01:12 AM

It's been forever since I posted in this thread, but I can't wait for the season to start! I just bought a new UNC hoodie today in anticipation of another national championship.:D

seekupig

10-18-2006, 01:14 AM

While KU may miss his size at times, it's not too big of a loss for you guys. Is Arthur going to be starting?

looks that way. starting five as of right now....

G - Russell Robinson
G - Mario Chalmers
F - Brandon Rush
F - Julian Wright
F - Darrell Arthur

seekupig

10-18-2006, 01:15 AM

It's been forever since I posted in this thread, but I can't wait for the season to start! I just bought a new UNC hoodie today in anticipation of another national championship.:D

make sure you keep your receipt. ;) :D

clayj41

10-18-2006, 01:19 AM

make sure you keep your receipt. ;) :D

Eh, I don't think I'll be returning anything.;)

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:20 AM

looks that way. starting five as of right now....

G - Russell Robinson
G - Mario Chalmers
F - Brandon Rush
F - Julian Wright
F - Darrell Arthur

That lineup is pretty damn filthy. How many freshmen is Roy planning on starting? I haven't heard.

clayj41

10-18-2006, 01:24 AM

That lineup is pretty damn filthy. How many freshmen is Roy planning on starting? I haven't heard.

I'd be interested to know that as well. Either way, I expect the freshman to play a big role, especially Wright and Ellington.

seekupig

10-18-2006, 01:28 AM

That lineup is pretty damn filthy. How many freshmen is Roy planning on starting? I haven't heard.

i haven't heard either. that may be because it doesn't matter when you switch players in and out more than a hockey team does. i do know that they're planning on playing pretty even minutes (with Hansboro being the exception) with a solid nine to ten man rotation. this team may be the closest thing to UNLV style basketball that we've seen since the Runnin' Rebels themselves did it back in the early 90's. i'm actually pretty excited to watch the Heels play this year..... and that's saying a lot.

clayj41

10-18-2006, 01:33 AM

i haven't heard either. that may be because it doesn't matter when you switch players in and out more than a hockey team does. i do know that they're planning on playing pretty even minutes (with Hansboro being the exception) with a solid nine to ten man rotation. this team may be the closest thing to UNLV style basketball that we've seen since the Runnin' Rebels themselves did it back in the early 90's. i'm actually pretty excited to watch the Heels play this year..... and that's saying a lot.

I hope they matchup with IU at some point during the NIT Tip-Off. I just love rubbing it in to all of my friends when UNC beats IU!

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:37 AM

i haven't heard either. that may be because it doesn't matter when you switch players in and out more than a hockey team does. i do know that they're planning on playing pretty even minutes (with Hansboro being the exception) with a solid nine to ten man rotation. this team may be the closest thing to UNLV style basketball that we've seen since the Runnin' Rebels themselves did it back in the early 90's. i'm actually pretty excited to watch the Heels play this year..... and that's saying a lot.

A little blue team/white team this year would be great.

seekupig

10-18-2006, 01:37 AM

I hope they matchup with IU at some point during the NIT Tip-Off. I just love rubbing it in to all of my friends when UNC beats IU!

i hope Greg Oden is ready to play when UNC plays Ohio St. in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge. the Sporting News College Basketball preview has Oden ranked as the #1 big man in the country (ahead of Noah and Hansboro) and he hasn't played a minute of college ball yet.

any word on Oden's injury and projected return?

clayj41

10-18-2006, 01:48 AM

i hope Greg Oden is ready to play when UNC plays Ohio St. in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge. the Sporting News College Basketball preview has Oden ranked as the #1 big man in the country (ahead of Noah and Hansboro) and he hasn't played a minute of college ball yet.

any word on Oden's injury and projected return?

I haven't heard anything on his status, but I think they're jumping the gun a little bit calling him the best big man in the country. He definitely has the potential and could indeed be #1 but I don't agree with putting him there before he's even played. I've already got that game marked on my calender. If Oden is healthy, a Hansbrough/Oden matchup will be quite interesting.

UNC41

10-18-2006, 01:49 AM

SteelerMan

10-18-2006, 02:05 AM

Oden's out until January. It's stupid that an injured freshman is considered the best big man in college basketball.

:thumbsup

Agreed.

chiznaz

10-18-2006, 02:27 AM

Dick Vitale's preseason top 40......

1. North Carolina
2. Florida
3. Kansas
4. Ohio State
5. UCLA

http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/060713Top40.html

A&M at 23 on that list is a joke.

Anyways, I CANNOT wait for the season to start. Me and a friend are skipping classes on Dec. 5 to drive to LSU for the A&M vs LSU bball game. Oh yeah!

UNLTrpt

10-18-2006, 02:35 AM

A&M at 23 on that list is a joke.

Anyways, I CANNOT wait for the season to start. Me and a friend are skipping classes on Dec. 5 to drive to LSU for the A&M vs LSU bball game. Oh yeah!

man they have you guys on the koolaid

where would you put them? ahead of who?

They still have to prove last year wasn't a fluke

chiznaz

10-18-2006, 03:03 AM

man they have you guys on the koolaid

where would you put them? ahead of who?

They still have to prove last year wasn't a fluke

Um, why would last year be a fluke? We went from 0-16 to the NIT in our first year. Gillispie did the same thing with UTEP that he is doing with A&M. He just now has more access to the top recruits in Texas, and has a much larger budget. He has commits from one of the top 15 national players for this coming years class and some of the best players in Texas.

Look at who he's recruiting and look at the players who are on the court right now. 2 of the 5 preseason All Big XII players are Aggies. Two others belong to KU and the 5th/6th belong to CU and Tech. Winning 8 straight to end the season and then losing to LSU in the round of 32 is no fluke. On top of that, we lose are best "role player" in Chris Walker.... a walk-on.

oh and to answer your question. Teams I am familiar with enough to put them in front of. Texas and Gonzaga for starters. I really don't know who teams lost from last year, but A&M was playing just as good as a lot of them in the tourny.

UNLTrpt

10-18-2006, 03:16 AM

Um, why would last year be a fluke? We went from 0-16 to the NIT in our first year. Gillispie did the same thing with UTEP that he is doing with A&M. He just now has more access to the top recruits in Texas, and has a much larger budget. He has commits from one of the top 15 national players for this coming years class and some of the best players in Texas.

Look at who he's recruiting and look at the players who are on the court right now. 2 of the 5 preseason All Big XII players are Aggies. Two others belong to KU and the 5th/6th belong to CU and Tech. Winning 8 straight to end the season and then losing to LSU in the round of 32 is no fluke. On top of that, we lose are best "role player" in Chris Walker.... a walk-on.

oh and to answer your question. Teams I am familiar with enough to put them in front of. Texas and Gonzaga for starters. I really don't know who teams lost from last year, but A&M was playing just as good as a lot of them in the tourny.

Better than Texas? Gotta prove that on the court until I believe it.

And last years results don't mean squat right now.

I don't doubt ya that Gillispie has them headed in the right direction, but to call a informal #25 ranking from Dukie V a joke? I don't know...I'd kinda be happy with a top 25 ranking right now.

You think A&M is the 2nd best team in the big 12 right now? wow man. can't say that I agree with ya.

SmoothG

10-18-2006, 03:26 AM

I want to put my two cents in for the Pac 10. I think Arizona is a Final Four contender. Last year was a down year and this year they have better depth, team chemistry and a more solid all round team. And one of the toughest schedules in the country. Arizona/North Carolina will be a great game! Don't be surprised to see the Cats in the Final Four again! They are consistently one of the top teams in the country! UCLA and Washington will be good again as well!

Texas A&M might be good...but until they prove it they should just be lucky they are getting some respect. One good year. Wow.

snow1868

10-18-2006, 12:05 PM

Um, why would last year be a fluke? We went from 0-16 to the NIT in our first year. Gillispie did the same thing with UTEP that he is doing with A&M. He just now has more access to the top recruits in Texas, and has a much larger budget. He has commits from one of the top 15 national players for this coming years class and some of the best players in Texas.

Look at who he's recruiting and look at the players who are on the court right now. 2 of the 5 preseason All Big XII players are Aggies. Two others belong to KU and the 5th/6th belong to CU and Tech. Winning 8 straight to end the season and then losing to LSU in the round of 32 is no fluke. On top of that, we lose are best "role player" in Chris Walker.... a walk-on.

oh and to answer your question. Teams I am familiar with enough to put them in front of. Texas and Gonzaga for starters. I really don't know who teams lost from last year, but A&M was playing just as good as a lot of them in the tourny.

If I were an A&M fan, I'd be happy with that 23 ranking. You have some graet players returning this year, and you should win some big games. But, until you can consistantly compete with KU, OSU, UT and OU in the Big 12, you'll never get the respect you think you deserve.

Trust me, I'm plenty pleased with OSU's 26 ranking in that poll.

rconverse

10-18-2006, 12:14 PM

i haven't heard either. that may be because it doesn't matter when you switch players in and out more than a hockey team does. i do know that they're planning on playing pretty even minutes (with Hansboro being the exception) with a solid nine to ten man rotation. this team may be the closest thing to UNLV style basketball that we've seen since the Runnin' Rebels themselves did it back in the early 90's. i'm actually pretty excited to watch the Heels play this year..... and that's saying a lot.

They still have a team there? That's funny. I kind of remember Carolina tryig to pass something off as a basketball team/program, but never heard if they succeeded or not.

In other news, my main man Greg Paulus is out. This was going to be his breakout year.

Trippin4136

10-18-2006, 12:17 PM

Unless I'm blind, did I not see Michigan State in Vitale's Top 40? That's really suprising.

clayj41

10-18-2006, 12:32 PM

They still have a team there? That's funny. I kind of remember Carolina tryig to pass something off as a basketball team/program, but never heard if they succeeded or not.

Yeah, they've really re-built since winning that Championship two years ago.:D

UNC41

10-18-2006, 12:34 PM

Unless I'm blind, did I not see Michigan State in Vitale's Top 40? That's really suprising.

They lost Ager, Brown and Davis from last year and I don't think they brought in a stellar recruiting class.

rconverse

10-18-2006, 12:36 PM

Damn you!

Does UNC ever play in Duke's annual tournament? Some people call it the "ACC Tournament".

UNC41

10-18-2006, 12:37 PM

Damn you!

Does UNC ever play in Duke's annual tournament? Some people call it the "ACC Tournament".

They prefer the Final Four.

rconverse

10-18-2006, 12:37 PM

Your mom.

clayj41

10-18-2006, 12:38 PM

Damn you!

Does UNC ever play in Duke's annual tournament? Some people call it the "ACC Tournament".

You know, I could say something about Duke always heading into the tournament as a #1 seed and the favorite to win it all yet continuing to come up short.......but that wouldn't be nice.;)

rconverse

10-18-2006, 01:31 PM

You know, I could say something about Duke always heading into the tournament as a #1 seed and the favorite to win it all yet continuing to come up short.......but that wouldn't be nice.;)

No Clay, that wouldn't be nice.

:lol

chiznaz

10-18-2006, 07:06 PM

Better than Texas? Gotta prove that on the court until I believe it.

And last years results don't mean squat right now.

I don't doubt ya that Gillispie has them headed in the right direction, but to call a informal #25 ranking from Dukie V a joke? I don't know...I'd kinda be happy with a top 25 ranking right now.

You think A&M is the 2nd best team in the big 12 right now? wow man. can't say that I agree with ya.

who would you put at number 2 then? I think last years result mean a whole lot. What I mean is Texas is hyped up on incoming recruits who haven't played 1 college basektball game yet. A&M has an entire team who took the national runner up down to the wire.

KU is clearly number 1 right now, and it is anyone's game for 2 down. Hell it's anyones game for the top spot. I just think with the returning teams we have in the Big XII, A&M looks like the best starting out.

snow1868

10-18-2006, 07:48 PM

HolyCow

10-18-2006, 08:07 PM

I think that OSU, A&M, KU, and UT will be the top teams in the Big 12 this year. KU, A&M and OSU return most of their rosters from last year and should do the most damage. UT has great coaching, but they're getting press for their recruits. I agree that A&M will be a good team this year, but like I said earlier, you won't get any respect until you can consistantly compete with the reigning heavyweights. i.e. OSU, OU, KU and UT.
I really think the it is a two team race in the Big XII. OSU and KU are the only two potential Sweet Sixteen teams I see in the conference.

I think A&M COULD BE good, but I am curious as to whether or not last year was just an abberation.

I would be pumped if OU could squeeze out a tourney bid, but I am really just hoping for a .500 season and an NIT bid. I think Capel will build us well, but this season could be rough.

mizzoudmbfan

10-18-2006, 08:14 PM

this was just posted on ESPN.com......

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Jayhawks junior center C.J. Giles (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22179) is not practicing with the team while he attends to "personal issues," Kansas announced in a two-paragraph release Tuesday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2630179

that's how it started with Micah Downs last season.

translation - i'm not going to get any playing time, i'm outta here.

fyi they were reporting on 610 sports in KC that this leave of absence might have something to do with roughly 4 grand in unpaid child support. I don't have any links to back this up so take it for what it's worth, just what I heard.

seekupig

10-19-2006, 12:49 AM

fyi they were reporting on 610 sports in KC that this leave of absence might have something to do with roughly 4 grand in unpaid child support. I don't have any links to back this up so take it for what it's worth, just what I heard.

:thumbsup

thanks for the info.

tankdan

10-19-2006, 01:09 AM

Unless I'm blind, did I not see Michigan State in Vitale's Top 40? That's really suprising.

I completely agree, I read over the list three times looking for MSU, considering I just got my basketball tickets today and I got the half-season that has Michigan State, UNC, Florida State, and Virginia Tech (NOT the half-season that has Duke, Miami, Clemson, and Maryland).

Cmooooon, Spartans, get good for when we can beat you in the Big Ten Challenge!

Dan

seekupig

10-19-2006, 01:25 AM

I completely agree, I read over the list three times looking for MSU, considering I just got my basketball tickets today and I got the half-season that has Michigan State, UNC, Florida State, and Virginia Tech

you'll go 3-1 in that stretch. UNC is going to be tough, but BC always manages to give them problems so i wouldn't be suprised to see you pull that one out.

the game that has me the most worried in the non-conference schedule for my Jayhawks isn't the game against Florida over Thanksgiving weekend, it's the game vs. Boston College on Dec. 23rd. they match up well and always have a great gameplan for highly ranked opponents. the fact that the game is being played at Allen Fieldhouse is the only reason i think KU will pull it out.... it'll be a good game though. :thumbsup

kydmb99

10-19-2006, 01:32 AM

Fire Tubby Smith.

UNC41

10-19-2006, 01:43 AM

What's so suprising about Michigan State not being a Top 40 team. They lost their three best players, and four out of their five remaining scorers. Not to mention they weren't that good last year.

seekupig

10-19-2006, 01:59 AM

What's so suprising about Michigan State not being a Top 40 team. They lost their three best players, and four out of their five remaining scorers. Not to mention they weren't that good last year.

:thumbsup thank you.

they weren't very good last year, they lost their best players, their recruiting class was average at best. if they make the tournament this year, it'll be because the Big Eleven is down and they rack up garbage wins. Izzo is a good coach, but you can't shine shit (unless your name is Roy Williams*).

* that's not a knock on Roy, merely respect for his abilitly to get an average team to do great things.

UNC41

10-19-2006, 02:31 AM

:thumbsup thank you.

they weren't very good last year, they lost their best players, their recruiting class was average at best. if they make the tournament this year, it'll be because the Big Eleven is down and they rack up garbage wins. Izzo is a good coach, but you can't shine shit (unless your name is Roy Williams*).

* that's not a knock on Roy, merely respect for his abilitly to get an average team to do great things.

I figured that's what you meant. Thankfully this year's UNC team is so deep with it's talent, because Roy has zero commits from the 2007 class.

gbs3769

10-19-2006, 10:46 AM

Unless I'm blind, did I not see Michigan State in Vitale's Top 40? That's really suprising.
That's ok. He doesn't have Syracuse in there either.

We return the most experienced front court in the Big East and the addition of Paul Harris who is going to be the National Freshman of the Year, we looked to be pretty decent.

We should probably finish 7th in the Big East behind Georgetown, Pitt, UConn, Villanova, Marquette and Louisville. The crazy thing is, finishing 7th in the Big East is a good thing.

- Primo

seekupig

10-19-2006, 10:54 AM

That's ok. He doesn't have Syracuse in there either.

We return the most experienced front court in the Big East and the addition of Paul Harris who is going to be the National Freshman of the Year, we looked to be pretty decent.

We should probably finish 7th in the Big East behind Georgetown, Pitt, UConn, Villanova, Marquette and Louisville. The crazy thing is, finishing 7th in the Big East is a good thing.

- Primo

wow.

gbs3769

10-19-2006, 10:56 AM

Thankfully this year's UNC team is so deep with it's talent, because Roy has zero commits from the 2007 class.
Oh that wonderful 2007 class. I must say, this basketball season is really just going to hold us over until we get to next season.

Donte Green
Antonio Jardine
Johnny Flynn
Rick Jackson
Sean Williams

Let's say that Paul Harris actually sticks around one more year to play with his buddy Johnny Flynn, oh man are we going to be sick.

- Primo

gbs3769

10-19-2006, 10:57 AM

wow.
The kid is amazing. I don't know if you have seen him play at all, but he is just so impressive. Physically and mentally he is conditioned enough that he could be starting on an NBA team right now.

- Primo

seekupig

10-19-2006, 11:07 AM

Oh that wonderful 2007 class. I must say, this basketball season is really just going to hold us over until we get to next season.

Donte Green
Antonio Jardine
Johnny Flynn
Rick Jackson
Sean Williams

Let's say that Paul Harris actually sticks around one more year to play with his buddy Johnny Flynn, oh man are we going to be sick.

- Primo

Kansas has NO seniors on the entire roster this season. now we just have to wait and see who jumps to the NBA after this year....

gbs3769

10-19-2006, 11:24 AM

Kansas has NO seniors on the entire roster this season. now we just have to wait and see who jumps to the NBA after this year....
I'll gladly take a rematch of 2003.

- Primo

seekupig

10-19-2006, 11:25 AM

I'll gladly take a rematch of 2003.

- Primo

you don't want that this year....

UNC41

10-19-2006, 12:02 PM

you don't want that this year....

There's nothing sweeter than beating Duke, but this year I think I'd rather see UNC vs. Kansas playing for all the marbles.

gbs3769

10-19-2006, 05:08 PM

you don't want that this year....
I know. I meant 2007-2008.

- Primo

rconverse

10-19-2006, 05:49 PM

There's nothing sweeter than beating Duke, but this year I think I'd rather see UNC vs. Kansas playing for all the marbles.

UNC will not make it further than Duke in the tournament.

seekupig

10-19-2006, 05:51 PM

UNC will not make it further than Duke in the tournament.

you've lost your mind.

rconverse

10-19-2006, 05:52 PM

You heard it here first.

SteelerMan

10-19-2006, 06:07 PM

UNC will not make it further than Duke in the tournament.

It all depends on the draw. Pretty much everyone would agree that UNC is better than Duke, but with the right draw and matchups, Duke could make it further than UNC. If you were to say at the beginning of last season that George Mason would make it further in the tournament than UConn, people would've thought you were crazy.

DixieChixen

10-19-2006, 07:42 PM

UNC will not make it further than Duke in the tournament.

not that i give a shit about the tarheels but would you be willing to put some money where your mouth is?

haildmb

10-19-2006, 07:44 PM

oh basketball, how I miss thee. hurry up and start NOW

UNC41

10-20-2006, 01:03 AM

UNC will not make it further than Duke in the tournament.

At first when I heard of Paulus' injury I was disapointed because Duke may not be at full strength when UNC beats them this year. Then I remembered with that roster that even with Paulus, I don't think you can consider that lineup "full strength."

seekupig

10-20-2006, 02:11 AM

At first when I heard of Paulus' injury I was disapointed because Duke may not be at full strength when UNC beats them this year. Then I remembered with that roster that even with Paulus, I don't think you can consider that lineup "full strength."

Dickie V has that at #10 in his poll, which by my calculations makes them about the 17th best team in the country......

UNC41

10-23-2006, 04:21 PM

SteelerMan

10-23-2006, 04:27 PM

Just out of curiosity... can anyone tell me how UNC handles basketball tickets for students? Can you buy season tickets, or do they split it into two half-season packages? If so, can you get both half-season packages? I'm considering applying to UNC, and to be honest, this does have a small impact on my decision.

rconverse

10-23-2006, 05:05 PM

Here's an ACC preview from The Sporting News.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=140942

"I would never put the standards of accomplishment that our previous teams have had on this group," coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "If they stay healthy, they'll be a lot better (at the end of the season). I don't know what that means. We might be 16-14 instead, but we also might be better than that."

Coach K is sandbagging already. Duke is going to be a preseason top 20 team, yet he says they may be a 16-14 team.

Yeah, they are going to really struggle this year. I am not necessarily looking forward to it except I love CBB so much. That being said, I only have so much time to talk trash before reality hits.

I don't think he is sandbagging. I think he is just setting the expectations to where they should be.

rconverse

10-23-2006, 05:07 PM

Dickie V has that at #10 in his poll, which by my calculations makes them about the 17th best team in the country......

As a die hard Duke BB fan that expects nothing less than excellence, I would be happy if Duke finished the year at #10. Although I agree with your second point, I feel they will probably end the season at #20 or lower.

kydmb99

10-23-2006, 05:10 PM

As a die hard Duke BB fan that expects nothing less than excellence, I would be happy if Duke finished the year at #10. Although I agree with your second point, I feel they will probably end the season at #20 or lower.

At least you're not Kentucky. I'd be thrilled if UK finished 20th or better.

UNC41

10-23-2006, 05:14 PM

Yeah, they are going to really struggle this year. I am not necessarily looking forward to it except I love CBB so much. That being said, I only have so much time to talk trash before reality hits.

I don't think he is sandbagging. I think he is just setting the expectations to where they should be.

Expectations where they should be? Duke was picked to finish second in the ACC and is a top 20 team by all media outlets I've seen. Yet Coach K says he could see them as a team that could go 16-14? To me it looks like he's setting the bar low so there is no way they can be worse than that if this year's team is a failure.

rconverse

10-23-2006, 05:17 PM

Expectations where they should be? Duke was picked to finish second in the ACC and is a top 20 team by all media outlets I've seen. Yet Coach K says he could see them as a team that could go 16-14? To me it looks like he's setting the bar low so there is no way they can be worse than that if this year's team is a failure.

I was just talking about this with my brother and they are just not that good. That being said, besides the fuckheels I really don't know what the rest of the ACC will look like this year. If the ACC is down, then Duke may finish second. Otherwise I would look for them in the middle of the pack. They very well may have to win the ACC tourney to make it to the dance.

UNC41

10-23-2006, 05:23 PM

I was just talking about this with my brother and they are just not that good. That being said, besides the fuckheels I really don't know what the rest of the ACC will look like this year. If the ACC is down, then Duke may finish second. Otherwise I would look for them in the middle of the pack. They very well may have to win the ACC tourney to make it to the dance.

I probably would have gone with BC number two, but I think Carolina is a level ahead of everyone else. Right now it looks like a conference of UNC and a bunch of mediocre teams. But with Duke's nonconference scheduling of not playing road games and only one elite ACC teams, there is no way they win just 16 games.

rconverse

10-23-2006, 05:27 PM

I probably would have gone with BC number two, but I think Carolina is a level ahead of everyone else. Right now it looks like a conference of UNC and a bunch of mediocre teams. But with Duke's nonconference scheduling of not playing road games and only one elite ACC teams, there is no way they win just 16 games.

I really hate to agree with your first point, but it is true. Yeah, Duke doesn't really go on the road preseason, but they did play Texas while they were #2 last year. Also, UNC and Duke share many non-conference opponents.

UNC41

10-23-2006, 05:42 PM

I really hate to agree with your first point, but it is true. Yeah, Duke doesn't really go on the road preseason, but they did play Texas while they were #2 last year. Also, UNC and Duke share many non-conference opponents.

They did play Texas last year, but it was in East Rutherford, where the crowd was easily more Duke. The Devils do play some good teams each year, but it's very rare for it to be an away game. UNC, meanwhile, heads to Arizona this year, played at Kentucky last year and in 04, at Indiana and UConn in 05 and at Kansas and Illinois in 03. You're right about sharing many opponents in or near North Carolina though.

seekupig

10-23-2006, 07:48 PM

UNC, meanwhile, heads to Arizona this year, played at Kentucky last year and in 04, at Indiana and UConn in 05 and at Kansas and Illinois in 03. You're right about sharing many opponents in or near North Carolina though.

i'm pretty sure that game was in the preseason NIT which wasn't at Kansas, they're just listed as the home team due to seedings. your point is made though, UNC does test themselves more than Duke does in preconference play.

UNC41

10-23-2006, 08:22 PM

i'm pretty sure that game was in the preseason NIT which wasn't at Kansas, they're just listed as the home team due to seedings. your point is made though, UNC does test themselves more than Duke does in preconference play.

You're right now that I think of it. A lot of teams do, but I just brought up UNC when it was brought up they share a lot of opponents.

rconverse

10-23-2006, 08:27 PM

They did play Texas last year, but it was in East Rutherford, where the crowd was easily more Duke. The Devils do play some good teams each year, but it's very rare for it to be an away game. UNC, meanwhile, heads to Arizona this year, played at Kentucky last year and in 04, at Indiana and UConn in 05 and at Kansas and Illinois in 03. You're right about sharing many opponents in or near North Carolina though.

I agree that Duke doesn't play a lot of non-conference true road games. I was just pointing out that they do play top tier teams pre conference (Maui, Alaskan Shootout, etc.)