Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released [Archive] - Page 54

UNC41

10-26-2006, 12:58 PM

i think they were a pretty good team that got hot when it mattered. most people have forgotten that they got swept by the two time defending NIT Champions, South Carolina. but, they're a year older and all still together so they might be the real deal this year. that said, i fully expect the Jayhawks to beat them in november.....

I think they're one of three elite teams in the nation. I'm just not sure they are a step above Kansas and UNC like a few have suggested.

seekupig

10-26-2006, 01:01 PM

They have all their starters returning and will be a tough team for anyone to beat. All 5 averaged double figures in points, they won the most games ever in school history, were #2 in the nation in field goal % at 50, and they also set a school record for blocks. They started 17-0 and ended 11-0 with the SEC and NCAA championships under their belt. Donovan has assembled an incredible team, one that he has strived for the last 10 years. They didn't just get hot during the NCAA tourney, they played well as a team, something that other teams should take notice of. If they remain as unselfish as they were last year, look out. I can't wait for the game, but more importantly the season to start. Last year they played as one of the top 20 NCAA teams to ever play the game. Regardless of how they perform this year, it's in the tournament where they will make their mark again! Go Gators Woo-Hoo!!!

Florida is about to learn what Kansas and UNC have known for years.....

it's a lot different when you're playing as the favorite with a bullseye on your back than it is as the underdog team trying to get over the hump.

seekupig

10-26-2006, 01:05 PM

Last year they played as one of the top 20 NCAA teams to ever play the game.

:confused

are you basing this on anything in particular or is that just a number you made up and threw out there?

darbini

10-26-2006, 01:06 PM

The thing is, Florida doesn't give a shit about that, and Donovan won't let them. When was Florida an underdog last year? Not too often, especially when they started 17-0. If your opponent doesn't have a bullseye on their back, regardless of who they are, then you will not succeed.

darbini

10-26-2006, 01:07 PM

:confused

are you basing this on anything in particular or is that just a number you made up and threw out there?

Obviously its an opinion because you can't rate something like that.:confused

seekupig

10-26-2006, 01:08 PM

The thing is, Florida doesn't give a shit about that, and Donovan won't let them.

ok...

darbini

10-26-2006, 01:09 PM

Ok...? They have talent, they have swagger, they are unselfish, they will perform well, they will lose 5 games this year.

UNC41

10-26-2006, 01:12 PM

Obviously its an opinion because you can't rate something like that.:confused

They are not even the best team of the past two years. Both UNC and Illinois in 2005 were better.

seekupig

10-26-2006, 01:14 PM

Ok...? They have talent, they have swagger, they are unselfish, they will perform well, they will lose 5 games this year.

one of them will be on November 25th and another will come in the NCAA tournament.

the attitude that Florida is the only team in the country that has talent, swagger, is unselfish and will perform well is exactly what will keep them from winning it all this year.

darbini

10-26-2006, 01:16 PM

Who the hell said they were the only team? I sure didn't, did you? And who says they're going to win it all this year? I didn't, did you?

UNC41

10-26-2006, 01:16 PM

They have all their starters returning and will be a tough team for anyone to beat. All 5 averaged double figures in points, they won the most games ever in school history, were #2 in the nation in field goal % at 50, and they also set a school record for blocks. They started 17-0 and ended 11-0 with the SEC and NCAA championships under their belt. Donovan has assembled an incredible team, one that he has strived for the last 10 years. They didn't just get hot during the NCAA tourney, they played well as a team, something that other teams should take notice of. If they remain as unselfish as they were last year, look out. I can't wait for the game, but more importantly the season to start. Last year they played as one of the top 20 NCAA teams to ever play the game. Regardless of how they perform this year, it's in the tournament where they will make their mark again! Go Gators Woo-Hoo!!!

Well, Oak Hill could have probably gone 17-0 against that schedule. They got to a mediocre SEC, and not only did Florida fail to dominate, but they didn't even win their own six team division. The Gators were anything but great during the regular season last year.

seekupig

10-26-2006, 01:18 PM

Who the hell said they were the only team? I sure didn't, did you? And who says they're going to win it all this year? I didn't, did you?

settle down, sparky, i get it, you're a blinded Gator fan that see's no faults in his team. enjoy watching my Jayhawks bring you back to reality in a month....:thumbsup

darbini

10-26-2006, 01:20 PM

settle down, sparky, i get it, you're a blinded Gator fan that see's no faults in his team. enjoy watching my Jayhawks bring you back to reality in a month....:thumbsup

Umm, I think Villanova is going to win it all

UNC41

10-26-2006, 01:21 PM

Umm, I think Villanova is going to win it all

:eek

You're kidding, right? You've got to be kidding.

darbini

10-26-2006, 01:22 PM

Yes I'm kidding, come on guys!

UNC41

10-26-2006, 01:42 PM

Apparently Bill Walker will play for Kansas State starting the second semester. Will he be a one semester player? Is that even allowed?

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9754677

seekupig

10-26-2006, 02:06 PM

Apparently Bill Walker will play for Kansas State starting the second semester. Will he be a one semester player? Is that even allowed?

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9754677

Bob Huggins is in town, anything is possible when it comes to stretching the rules....

UNC41

10-26-2006, 02:10 PM

Not a bad showing for Kansas in this list of Big XII draft prospects.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1466

seekupig

10-26-2006, 02:22 PM

Not a bad showing for Kansas in this list of Big XII draft prospects.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1466

the ol' double edged sword. so good, they're gone.

gbs3769

10-26-2006, 03:07 PM

Umm, I think Villanova is going to win it all
Someone needs to put the crack pipe down.

- Primo

gbs3769

10-26-2006, 03:08 PM

settle down, sparky, i get it, you're a blinded Gator fan that see's no faults in his team. enjoy watching my Jayhawks bring you back to reality in a month....:thumbsup
:thumbsup

I love it when teams do well for a little bit and their fans immediately assume that they are the best team ever.

- Primo

darbini

10-26-2006, 03:17 PM

:thumbsup

I love it when teams do well for a little bit and their fans immediately assume that they are the best team ever.

- Primo

They've done well for the past 6 years, but couldn't succeed in the tournament, eventhough they were runner up back in 01. It was 1st and 2nd round exits on repeat but they finally got a team together and perfomred quite well. Who said they are the best team ever?

gbs3769

10-26-2006, 03:23 PM

They've done well for the past 6 years, but couldn't succeed in the tournament, eventhough they were runner up back in 01. It was 1st and 2nd round exits on repeat but they finally got a team together and perfomred quite well. Who said they are the best team ever?
Sorry. You didn't say best ever. You said one of the 20 best ever. That is an absolute joke.

- Primo

seekupig

10-26-2006, 03:24 PM

Sorry. You didn't say best ever. You said one of the 20 best ever. That is an absolute joke.

- Primo

:thumbsup
i could easily come up with 20 better teams in the last ten years......

kydmb99

10-26-2006, 03:26 PM

:thumbsup
i could easily come up with 20 better teams in the last ten years......

I think the rush they got from not being Kentucky's bitch anymore has severely altered their perception of reality.

seekupig

10-26-2006, 03:27 PM

I think the rush they got from not being Kentucky's bitch anymore has severely altered their perception of reality.

excellent point. :thumbsup :thumbsup

darbini

10-26-2006, 03:33 PM

We shall see

UNC41

10-26-2006, 03:42 PM

:thumbsup
i could easily come up with 20 better teams in the last ten years......

Yup. Florida was a good team last year, but it wasn't exactly an up year for talent in college basketball.

cityondown5

10-26-2006, 03:43 PM

I'm so glad this thread is back!

SteelerMan

10-26-2006, 06:02 PM

My alma mater's Midnight Madness is tomorrow night... I'm pumped! We're taking the NAIA Championship this year.

seekupig

10-27-2006, 12:55 PM

ESPN/USA Today Coach's poll released this morning.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings

1. Florida
2. UNC
3. Kansas
4. Ohio St.
5. Pittsburgh
5. UCLA
7. LSU
8. Georgetown
9. Wisconsin
10. Arizona
11. Duke
12. Alabama
13. Texas A&M
14. Memphis
15. Boston College
16. Washington
17. Marquette
18. UConn
19. Texas
20. Syracuse
21. Georgia Tech
22. Kentucky
23. Creighton
24. Tennessee
25. Nevada

UNC41

10-27-2006, 01:19 PM

seekupig

10-27-2006, 01:20 PM

I'm not buying Ohio St. at No. 4 when they are starting the season without Oden. I'd also move Wisconsin up and swap Duke and B.C. from my initial reaction.

i'm also wondering what the hell Kentucky is doing on there at all....

SteelerMan

10-27-2006, 01:21 PM

Aside from the Top 3, I have a feeling the Top 25 will look nothing like this at the end of the season.

UNC41

10-27-2006, 01:22 PM

i'm also wondering what the hell Kentucky is doing on there at all....

I completely missed that as it didn't say Jelly.

gbs3769

10-27-2006, 03:14 PM

I completely missed that as it didn't say Jelly.
:lol

- Primo

gbs3769

10-27-2006, 03:16 PM

I don't know about Syracuse being ranked 20th. The seniors have a lot to prove before I will think we are a Top 25 team.

- Primo

UNC41

10-27-2006, 03:35 PM

I don't know about Syracuse being ranked 20th. The seniors have a lot to prove before I will think we are a Top 25 team.

- Primo

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9753982

I figured you'd appreciate Paul Harris on his All-Big East First Team.

This is what Parrish said about ranking Cuse 24 in his preseason poll.

"There are many who criticized me for ranking freshman Paul Harris as one of the top three shooting guards in the nation, regardless of class. Truth is, Harris can -- and will -- play both guard spots, and all those haters will be apologizing by February, if not sooner."

jmudmbphan

10-27-2006, 05:11 PM

bama coming in at 12...roll that motherfuckin tide bitches

haildmb

10-27-2006, 06:13 PM

i'm also wondering what the hell Kentucky is doing on there at all....

they're kentucky... i think that's about the only reason

Good god I can't wait for basketball to start

mizzoudmbfan

10-31-2006, 12:16 AM

I don't think many people here care one way or the other about Missouri this season. But for those that do Keon Lawrence(fr Guard, projected to be a starter) is out 4-6 weeks with a stress fracture in his foot. This comes on the heels of news that forward Glen Dandridge also broke his foot and underwent surgery. On the bright side 4 weeks would put Lawrence(I really hate that we have two guys on our squad named Lawrence;)) possibly coming back for U of A which should be our first major trial(although with this team I'm guessing every game is up in the air) and the 6 week time line would be in time for conference play.

Also, I don't remember seeing it discussed here but Kansas jr. Sasha Kaun is having knee trouble and it's looking like six weeks might be his down time too. How long untill Self announces that the team has miraculously resolved it's issues with CJ Giles?:lol just kidding

just my .02,
Rob

seekupig

10-31-2006, 12:23 AM

Also, I don't remember seeing it discussed here but Kansas jr. Sasha Kaun is having knee trouble and it's looking like six weeks might be his down time too. How long untill Self announces that the team has miraculously resolved it's issues with CJ Giles?:lol just kidding

neither Kaun or Giles were or are going to start for KU, so the only thing it's really going to have an impact on is their bench. thanks for the info though. :thumbsup

kydmb99

10-31-2006, 12:24 AM

i'm also wondering what the hell Kentucky is doing on there at all....

I'm a UK fan but I agree. I really wouldn't care to see a sub-par season if it meant Tubby would get the boot. Our great program is going down the shitter quick. :(

seekupig

10-31-2006, 12:28 AM

I'm a UK fan but I agree. I really wouldn't care to see a sub-par season if it meant Tubby would get the boot. Our great program is going down the shitter quick. :(

Kentucky sucking in basketball makes me happy. :)

the only program i hate more than the Wildcats is Duke.

SteelerMan

10-31-2006, 12:30 AM

With the way this football season is going, I'm DYING for some college basketball. With UNC #2 in the NCAA and LSUS (my former school) #2 in the NAIA, I'll be pulling for two National Championship contenders this season. Hopefully at least one of them will pull it out.

kydmb99

10-31-2006, 12:30 AM

Kentucky sucking in basketball makes me happy. :)

the only program i hate more than the Wildcats is Duke.

Why do you dislike them so much? The fans?

Well, we can definitely agree on our hatred for Duke. But without JJ Redick what douchebag am I going to root against for them? :shrug

2SteppingInVA

10-31-2006, 12:30 AM

Kentucky sucking in basketball makes me happy. :)

the only program i hate more than the Wildcats is Duke.
I can't wait to see Kentucky get their asses whooped when they come here. Dook too, for that matter.

2SteppingInVA

10-31-2006, 12:32 AM

Why do you dislike them so much? The fans?

Well, we can definitely agree on our hatred for Duke. But without JJ Redick what douchebag am I going to root against for them? :shrug
Don't you worry! You'll have not trouble finding a new one!

seekupig

10-31-2006, 12:33 AM

But without JJ Redick what douchebag am I going to root against for them? :shrug

the same douchebag that i've been rooting against for the last 17 years...... Coack K

seekupig

10-31-2006, 12:36 AM

Why do you dislike them so much? the fans?

for starters, the fans.

exhibit A - http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151803&highlight=kentucky+basketball

kydmb99

10-31-2006, 12:41 AM

for starters, the fans.

exhibit A - http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151803&highlight=kentucky+basketball

:lol Yes, there are definitely some Big Blue Fanatics. I'm definitely not one like that as I'm a fan, but also a realist.

Also, :thumbsup to your Coach K comment. How could I forget about that cocksucking Keebler elf?

2SteppingInVA

10-31-2006, 12:45 AM

:lol Yes, there are definitely some Big Blue Fanatics. I'm definitely not one like that as I'm a fan, but also a realist.

Also, :thumbsup to your Coach K comment. How could I forget about that cocksucking Keebler elf?
My Dook hatred runs deeper than all of y'alls, but I will say I respect the man. He's a good coach, and it's a shame he's stuck with such homosexuals year in year out. Plus, somebody's got to be Roy's bitch.

UNC41

10-31-2006, 12:45 AM

for starters, the fans.

exhibit A - http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151803&highlight=kentucky+basketball

So true. I dislike Kentucky way more because of its fans than its program.

SteelerMan

10-31-2006, 10:25 AM

the same douchebag that i've been rooting against for the last 17 years...... Coack K

Paulus is a whiny little bitch, but unfortunately, he's out for awhile. I've always thought McRoberts seemed like a douchebag as well.

mizzoudmbfan

10-31-2006, 04:01 PM

Wow, I just found out I'll be sitting in a suite for the season opener this Friday night. Not that big of a deal because it is exhibition and against UMR(Missouri Rolla), but it does entail free food and drink(the only place in the arena you can drink).

seekupig

10-31-2006, 11:03 PM

it's official, Kaun is out 3-6 weeks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2644571

mizzoudmbfan

10-31-2006, 11:17 PM

neither Kaun or Giles were or are going to start for KU, so the only thing it's really going to have an impact on is their bench. thanks for the info though. :thumbsup

Kansas' starting center Kaun to miss 3-6 weeks
the Jayhawks lost starter Sasha Kaun
"My excitement [about the start of the season] is a little tempered right now," coach Bill Self told reporters

hmmm...

How long untill Self announces that the team has miraculously resolved it's issues with CJ Giles?:lol

Maybe I should have hesitated with the lol smilie and the just kidding:

Giles' future with Kansas remains uncertain.

"We'll visit sometime soon," Self told reporters. "But my focus right now is not on C.J. Giles."

seekupig

10-31-2006, 11:21 PM

hmmm...

Maybe I should have hesitated with the lol smilie and the just kidding:

you left part out.....

My focus is on trying to get our team better, and right now he's not a part of our team and he may never be a part of our team.

"I'm not going to make a final decision until I've had a chance to visit with him and check some things out."

mizzoudmbfan

10-31-2006, 11:45 PM

you left part out.....

My focus is on trying to get our team better, and right now he's not a part of our team and he may never be a part of our team.

"I'm not going to make a final decision until I've had a chance to visit with him and check some things out."

Pardon me, didn't want to quote the entire article, I thought I did an objective job, I was mainly trying to point out that it is even a consideration. It seems to me that if a person can't afford to pay child support over the last 19 months of his college career then it is going to be highly suspect if he is all of a sudden is able to start making the payments AND come up with the 4 grand that he owes in back pay(assuming this is what the judge rules). That being said, if I was a coach at a school that had just gotten in trouble with the NCAA for giving improper gifts to players I wouldn't touch this situation with a ten foot poll.

Before this weekend while technically he was "suspended indefinitely" or whatever the exact terminology was, most Kansas fans that I know(in real life and internet posters) as well as a few local radio personalities and columnists had written off any chance of a Giles return. Now Self is being quoted in the media saying he is considering a reinstatment.

just my .02

HolyCow

10-31-2006, 11:50 PM

Went and watched OU's exhibition. We may have enough talent to surprise some people, but we are really raw and really sloppy.

Tony Crocker is a player folks. He is good. And Keith Clark is pretty good too.

seekupig

10-31-2006, 11:50 PM

Pardon me, didn't want to quote the entire article, I thought I did an objective job, I was mainly trying to point out that it is even a consideration. It seems to me that if a person can't afford to pay child support over the last 19 months of his college career then it is going to be highly suspect if he is all of a sudden is able to start making the payments AND come up with the 4 grand that he owes in back pay(assuming this is what the judge rules). That being said, if I was a coach at a school that had just gotten in trouble with the NCAA for giving improper gifts to players I wouldn't touch this situation with a ten foot poll.

Before this weekend while technically he was "suspended indefinitely" or whatever the exact terminology was, most Kansas fans that I know(in real life and internet posters) as well as a few local radio personalities and columnists had written off any chance of a Giles return. Now Self is being quoted in the media saying he is considering a reinstatment.

just my .02

no problem, man. i didn't know all the details reguarding Giles. i don't see it as Self considering reinstatement as much as him not wanting to say it's over until everything has been settled. i think he's covering his ass more than anything else.....:)

clayj41

11-01-2006, 01:59 AM

Avatar changed...:D

UNC41

11-01-2006, 02:13 AM

Avatar changed...:D

Beat you by two days.

clayj41

11-01-2006, 02:17 AM

Beat you by two days.

You were actually the inspiration for the change. I figured it was about that time of year...

UNC41

11-01-2006, 02:21 AM

You were actually the inspiration for the change. I figured it was about that time of year...

Now until early April. :D

UNC41

11-01-2006, 02:30 AM

Clay and all other Tar Heel fans,

Does the below video make you feel ...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7254772963668969802&q=tar+heels

a.) giddy
b.) fucking pumped
c.) give you a boner
d.) all of the above

seekupig

11-01-2006, 10:52 AM

Roy Williams was on local sports talk radio yesterday. i missed it, but i'll see if i can find it on their site and post it later.....

seekupig

11-01-2006, 11:23 AM

last season's leading scorer in the Big XII (Jarrius Jackson) has been released by Texas Tech for academic reasons.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2645330

UNC41

11-01-2006, 12:05 PM

Roy Williams was on local sports talk radio yesterday. i missed it, but i'll see if i can find it on their site and post it later.....

That'd be awesome. I'm hoping for triple digits tonight.

RJ2kWJ

11-01-2006, 12:10 PM

Paulus is a whiny little bitch, but unfortunately, he's out for awhile. I've always thought McRoberts seemed like a douchebag as well.

Yea I agree. He's almost as much of a fag as Tyler.

SteelerMan

11-01-2006, 12:16 PM

Yea I agree. He's almost as much of a fag as Tyler.

How can you hate Tyler? I don't think I've ever seen him say one word on the court. It seems like Paulus is perpetually whining about something.

UNC41

11-01-2006, 12:21 PM

Yea I agree. He's almost as much of a fag as Tyler.

For some reason the nickname Psycho T doesn't give off any faglike qualities.

clayj41

11-01-2006, 01:09 PM

seekupig

11-03-2006, 12:19 AM

UNC41

11-03-2006, 12:26 AM

"KU finished off Washburn 99-69. Five Jayhawks finished the game in double figures, including 21 from Arthur, 18 from Jackson, 15 from Wright and 10 from Chalmers."

looks like this freshman might be pretty good...... :)

Looking good for Arthur. I've got some freshmen to give props to as well.

Brandan Wright put up 19 last night to go along with 13 by Ellington. No Tar Heel played more than 19 minutes and they put up 110. They are gong to be a blast to watch.

UNC41

11-03-2006, 02:38 AM

Shaun Livingston was guarding J.R. Smith on the last posession of the Clippers/Nuggets game tonight. It made me think what could have been another chapter to the best rivalry in college basketball two years ago ...

chiznaz

11-03-2006, 04:26 AM

last season's leading scorer in the Big XII (Jarrius Jackson) has been released by Texas Tech for academic reasons.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2645330

Knight did it for all the right reasons too. He's one of my favorite coaches and easily top 3 college coaches all time.

UNLTrpt

11-03-2006, 04:18 PM

Sutton 'alert and responsive' in Stillwater hospital

STILLWATER, Okla. -- Former Oklahoma State basketball coach Eddie Sutton was taken to a Stillwater hospital Friday morning after being found unresponsive in his car outside a Stillwater convenience store, police said.

In a statement, Stillwater Medical Center said Sutton is "alert and responsive. "

"The ER physician stated that Mr. Sutton is not under the influence of alcohol; however a possible reaction to new medication prescribed by his physician may be the cause of this incident," the release said. "The physician expects the patient to be evaluated and released sometime [Friday.]"

Oklahoma State spokesman Gary Shutt told The Oklahoman newspaper that Sutton had an allergic reaction to a new prescription medication.

Sutton had been "largely unresponsive" but able to communicate verbally with police officers and paramedics after they responded to the convenience store around 9:34 a.m. Friday, Stillwater Police Capt. Randy Dickerson said.

Oklahoma State assistant coach James Dickey told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that Sutton was resting comfortably at the hospital. Dickey said he visited Sutton Friday morning and said that he was told he would be released later Friday.

Dickey said the the Cowboys' exhibition scheduled for Friday night agaisnst Pittsburg State that will go on as planned. He said head coach Sean Sutton, who is Eddie Sutton's son, was at the hospital but would be coaching the team.

Sutton, 70, retired in May after compiling 798 wins in 36 years as a college coach at Creighton, Arkansas, Kentucky and Oklahoma State, his alma mater. His retirement came about three months after a drunken driving accident caused him to miss the Cowboys' final 10 games last season.

After his retirement, Sutton had begun working with a new alcohol education and support program at Oklahoma State. His first appearance was a speech to about 1,500 students at a fraternity house in September.

Sutton, who ranks fifth in career wins among Division I men's coaches, reached the Final Four with Arkansas in 1978 and with Oklahoma State in 1995 and 2004.

snow1868

11-03-2006, 04:35 PM

Thank god he's okay. To say I was a little worried would be a stretch. I love that man and everything that he has done for the OSU program. Say what you will about last years drinking relapse, he is a legend and deserves to be honored as one.

UNC41

11-06-2006, 01:17 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kEdYNNQmOS4

Brandan Wright's oop about 23 seconds into this video is just sick. I can't wait to watch him this year.

rconverse

11-06-2006, 01:31 PM

For some reason the nickname Psycho T doesn't give off any faglike qualities.

I still think he's a douche.

UNC41

11-06-2006, 01:34 PM

I still think he's a douche.

Speaking of douches.

rconverse

11-06-2006, 01:36 PM

Who is that?

UNC41

11-06-2006, 01:39 PM

The next "great" Duke recruit who spurred NC State and UNC for the Devils is now posing as Rocky in Philly.

rconverse

11-06-2006, 01:42 PM

The next "great" Duke recruit who spurred NC State and UNC for the Devils is now posing as Rocky in Philly.

Haha. :p

SatelliteEyes

11-06-2006, 01:43 PM

Wisconsin will win the Big 10 and make it to the Final Four.

UNC41

11-06-2006, 01:49 PM

Haha. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyc0JhjTXBw

Watch him sing too. He's like that rich kid who no one likes but everyone hangs around.

UNC41

11-06-2006, 01:50 PM

Wisconsin will win the Big 10 and make it to the Final Four.

Tucker's a beast and I have them winning the Big 10, but Wisconsin is far from a Final Four lock.

UNC41

11-07-2006, 01:48 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6144446?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=99

I can't believe anyone allows Jeff Goodman to cover college basketball. His All-American teams are atrocious. McRoberts and Dudley on the first team? Hansbrough on the second team? Tucker and Davis on the third? Rush on the fourth? Seriously, get a clue buddy.

unccrombie

11-07-2006, 02:32 PM

hoops already? rock on...

clayj41

11-07-2006, 02:44 PM

hoops already? rock on...

Yeah, but I love that you still have your Brazil avatar!

seekupig

11-07-2006, 07:47 PM

seekupig

11-07-2006, 07:51 PM

the AP poll is out, not much different from the others......

1. Florida (63 first place votes)
2. UNC (9 first place votes)
3. Kansas
4-25. Everyone Else

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings?poll=1

SteelerMan

11-07-2006, 07:55 PM

RJ2kWJ

11-07-2006, 08:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyc0JhjTXBw

Watch him sing too. He's like that rich kid who no one likes but everyone hangs around.

At the very moment UNC fans find out that a recruit peaces on UNC and chooses Duke... Do you all start hunting for stuff to make them look bad? :lol

UNC41

11-07-2006, 09:02 PM

At the very moment UNC fans find out that a recruit peaces on UNC and chooses Duke... Do you all start hunting for stuff to make them look bad? :lol

No, just when the look like complete fools.

Or get teabagged.

UNC41

11-07-2006, 09:07 PM

CJ Giles is gone.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2653005

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Kansas Jayhawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=2305) forward C.J. Giles (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22179) was dismissed from the team Tuesday after a student reported Giles had dragged her from his apartment by her feet and hit her. :eek

Now I bet you're super glad about the Jayhawks' depth coming into this season.

Giles should transfer to Kansas State. He'd fit in with Huggins. The guy has tons of talent, but just as many issues apparently.

seekupig

11-07-2006, 10:28 PM

No, just when the look like complete fools.

Or get teabagged.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

seekupig

11-07-2006, 10:33 PM

Now I bet you're super glad about the Jayhawks' depth coming into this season.

Giles should transfer to Kansas State. He'd fit in with Huggins. The guy has tons of talent, but just as many issues apparently.

yeah, Giles is gone and Kaun is out for a few weeks. sucks for now, but neither one of them was going to start. Self doesn't like to run and sub the way Roy does, and i've read that he's been worried about enough minutes to keep everyone happy. this may end up being a blessing in disguise if the current players get a good chemistry going.....

rconverse

11-07-2006, 10:38 PM

No, just when the look like complete fools.

Or get teabagged.

Wouldn't that fall under looking like a complete fool? :lol

seekupig

11-07-2006, 10:43 PM

Wouldn't that fall under looking like a complete fool? :lol

no, that falls into being a Duke basketball passed out at a UNC frat house... :lol

the pwning of Reggie Love contains some footage that may be offensive to some viewers.... proceed with caution

http://www.jodysgarage.com/images/funny/dook2.jpg
http://www.jodysgarage.com/images/funny/dook1.jpg
http://www.jodysgarage.com/images/funny/dook4.jpg

EDIT - bad links.... sorry.

unccrombie

11-08-2006, 04:51 PM

Yeah, but I love that you still have your Brazil avatar!
once december rolls around i'll be in the mood. im still sulking from the cup

rconverse

11-08-2006, 10:46 PM

What is up with Rick Fox playing Daunte Jones on TV? Selling out like a little bitch. Man, it must stink to be UNC and even in your post basketball career trying to play a Dukie. Must be rough for UNC-ers everywhere. :lol

http://tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=170097933&cf=0&lineup=us_IL63063d&channels=us_WGN&chspid=166031184&chname=CW&progutn=1163037600&.intl=us

budgrove

11-08-2006, 11:00 PM

Lets go PITT!!!

seekupig

11-09-2006, 01:09 AM

Lets go PITT!!!

:thumbsdow

chiznaz

11-10-2006, 08:10 PM

Lets see here.

1. Opening night for Aggie basketball
2. Family has season tickets this year
3. New Jumbotron in the arena
4. Going out and having beers before the game.
5. No tests until AFTER Thanksgiving break.

I am excited for tonight:)

rconverse

11-10-2006, 09:14 PM

Sounds like you have good reason to be excited.

UNC41

11-11-2006, 01:13 AM

Rodey

11-11-2006, 01:31 AM

I love Duke.

mizzoudmbfan

11-11-2006, 01:52 AM

Quin Snyder is still the only coach in the history of Missouri basketball to lose his first game.

seekupig

11-11-2006, 12:36 PM

UNC41

11-11-2006, 09:39 PM

chiznaz

11-11-2006, 10:10 PM

6. we have to play Kansas at Allen Fieldhouse this year. :(

:D ;)

wait am i suppossed to be scared about that game:confused :confused

;)

41ravens

11-11-2006, 10:38 PM

North Carolina 140
Pfeiffer 101

I cannot wait to watch the UNC offense this season. I'm banking on averaging more than 90. They'll give up a lot of points, but it'll be because both teams will have so many possessions.

is that score for real? damn...

arizona kicks it off tomorrow. we'll see how this season goes. they've been so up and down the last couple of years it's been driving me fuckin' nuts.

seekupig

11-11-2006, 11:09 PM

Kansas wins their opener 91-57.

Rock, Chalk.....

unccrombie

11-11-2006, 11:13 PM

jayhawk

seekupig

11-11-2006, 11:17 PM

jayhawk

:thumbsup

JamesM

11-12-2006, 12:46 AM

all right Auburn starts off with a win in basketball

http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/111006aaa.html

UNC41

11-12-2006, 03:01 AM

is that score for real? damn...

arizona kicks it off tomorrow. we'll see how this season goes. they've been so up and down the last couple of years it's been driving me fuckin' nuts.

It's for real.

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/111106aaa.html

SteelerMan

11-12-2006, 03:06 AM

How did UNC give up 101 points to Pfeiffer? That has me worried.

UNC41

11-12-2006, 03:12 AM

How did UNC give up 101 points to Pfeiffer? That has me worried.

From what I read, Pfeiffer hit something like 8 of 10 3s once the game was over and all of Carolina's regulars were out. Plus, when teams are getting way more than 100 possessions, they're going to score a lot of points.

UNC41

11-12-2006, 10:09 PM

Steelerman, you did the Ants Poll last year, right? I think it's time to get this year's going. II could do it this year.

PM me your polls by 6:00 p.m. central on Tuesday and I'll get the "preseason" poll up.

41ravens

11-12-2006, 10:38 PM

and arizona loses to virginia. cool. real cool.

seekupig

11-13-2006, 12:13 AM

How did UNC give up 101 points to Pfeiffer? That has me worried.

don't be worried. the Heels scored 90 points in the first half and called the dogs off. they had their 3rd squad in for most of the second half....

justinandimcool

11-13-2006, 01:51 AM

So anyone wanna educate me on who's good this year? I'm really oblivious everytime preseason rolls around. I know Florida has the same starting 5 as last year. Do you guys think the top 25 teams are accurate when it comes to how well they'll do?

UNC41

11-13-2006, 01:52 AM

Florida, North Carolina and Kansas are widely viewed as the cream of the crop next now.

HolyCow

11-13-2006, 02:16 AM

Florida, North Carolina and Kansas are widely viewed as the cream of the crop next now.
Yep. Pretty much.

My top 10 is:
1. UNC
2. KU
3. Florida
4. UCLA
5. Georgetown
6. LSU
7. Pitt
8. Duke
9. Ohio St.
10. Arizona (even though they lost)

thehoss

11-13-2006, 02:18 AM

two words fellas....St. Johns

UNC41

11-13-2006, 02:39 AM

two words fellas....St. Johns

Three letters chief ... lol

thehoss

11-13-2006, 02:45 AM

im telling you, hate them all you want, these guys are for real. they may not be the prettiest, but damn, they can play ball with the best of em. tough to beat city guards at msg, remember i mentioned this...say 2 months from now

darbini

11-13-2006, 02:46 AM

2 letters: UF

UNC41

11-13-2006, 02:57 AM

2 letters: UF

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Fordham.

gbs3769

11-13-2006, 10:31 AM

'Cuse ripped off three wins in three days to take the BCA Invitational. Not that it wasn't expected, but it was good to see that they actually came through.

Thoughts on what we saw in the first three games. Our man-to-man defense is atrocious. Thank the maker we play such a good zone or we would struggle a lot this year. Some of the guys are just not quick enough to compete against some of the fastest guys in the Big East this season. With that being said, Josh Wright is going to be a stud on defense. He handled the rock well over the weekend and last night displyed his defensive prowess.

The bigs are going to struggle a bit this season as I expected them to, but Mookie is building on his exceptional play at the end of last season and seems to be continuing his development as a player. He is a force on defense as long as he doesn't get into foul trouble, and he shot free throws very well last night. If he can continue to do that, we will do well this season.

Paul Harris is an instant contributor. I don't think I agree with some of the writers who say that he will be the leader of this team come January or February, but I do think that he will contend for Freshman of the Year Honors. He certainly will claim Big East Freshman of the Year. His ability to rebound the ball is amazing. He is always in position and that is something that the 'Cuse traditionally has lacked.

Boeheim picked up wins 727, 728 and 729 over the weekend. Tying him with The Shark for #15 All-Time.

- Primo

unccrombie

11-13-2006, 01:46 PM

2 letters: UF
i still think theyre over rated, could a loner on that though

darbini

11-13-2006, 01:50 PM

i still think theyre over rated, could a loner on that though

Of all things, you really can't say that they're overrated, that just doesn't make any sense. Just b/c they're ranked #1 doesn't mean they currently are the best team which noone can touch. I think all of the top 5 teams can beat eachother, it just comes down to playing the game. I'm interested to hear your reasons as to why they're overrated.

SteelerMan

11-13-2006, 02:09 PM

Of all things, you really can't say that they're overrated, that just doesn't make any sense. Just b/c they're ranked #1 doesn't mean they currently are the best team which noone can touch. I think all of the top 5 teams can beat eachother, it just comes down to playing the game. I'm interested to hear your reasons as to why they're overrated.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say Florida is overrated. The only argument I've heard against them is that they just got hot when the tournament started, which I think is true, but they also started last season out with a 17 game (I think) winning streak.

I could even appreciate an argument that UNC is overrated. They didn't look too great in the tournament last season, and their ranking is based at least partially on their three freshmen. I think they're going to be an amazing team by the time the tournament starts, but I have a feeling there are going to be some growing pains early in the season.

UNC41

11-13-2006, 04:56 PM

I don't necessarily think Florida is overrated. If they would be considered to be a notch above everyone else, then I'd say they're overrated, but that's not the case.

unccrombie

11-13-2006, 04:58 PM

i just feel they get extremely lucky. their wins last year didn't impress me too much for the talent on that team

unccrombie

11-13-2006, 04:59 PM

syracuse basketball without gmac...this is going to be weird at the dome...

seekupig

11-13-2006, 06:57 PM

i know it's completely meaningless this early in the year, but i still think it's pretty funny to look at. the first "bracketology" of the year on ESPN.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

RJ2kWJ

11-13-2006, 07:15 PM

unccrombie

11-13-2006, 07:28 PM

give me some power 16!

UNC41

11-13-2006, 08:33 PM

The preseason Power 16 from ESPN the Magazine was ...

1. Florida
2. Kansas
3. North Carolina
4. LSU
5. Arizona
6. Pitt
7. Georgetown
8. Wisconsin
9. UCLA
10. Ohio State
11. Texas A&M
12. Alabama
13. Duke
14. Boston College
15. Syracuse
16. Marquette

darbini

11-13-2006, 09:01 PM

i just feel they get extremely lucky. their wins last year didn't impress me too much for the talent on that team

How was UF extremely lucky? How was UNC unlucky? Florida started off with 17 wins in a row and ended with 11 straight(won the SEC tournament and NCAA). Their 6 losses were by a total of 23 pts. How could they not impress you with the talent they have when all they did was play almost perfect basketball, the talent was nothing but sophomores too. Ehhh.

UNC41

11-13-2006, 09:23 PM

How was UF extremely lucky? How was UNC unlucky? Florida started off with 17 wins in a row and ended with 11 straight(won the SEC tournament and NCAA). Their 6 losses were by a total of 23 pts. How could they not impress you with the talent they have when all they did was play almost perfect basketball, the talent was nothing but sophomores too. Ehhh.

To be fair, Florida lost the first good team they faced last year. There was no reason for a team as good as you say they were to lose six games in the SEC last year. The conference simply was not that good. They looked far more impressive during the NCAA tourney than they did at any other time of the season.

unccrombie

11-13-2006, 09:28 PM

darbini

11-13-2006, 09:54 PM

To be fair, Florida lost the first good team they faced last year. There was no reason for a team as good as you say they were to lose six games in the SEC last year. The conference simply was not that good. They looked far more impressive during the NCAA tourney than they did at any other time of the season.

Isn't that the idea for every team?

They lost twice to S Carolina(2x NIT Cahamps which is still impressive), and twice to ranked Tennessee, Alabama and Arkansas were the other. So what if they lost to the first good team they faced, it was #20 Tenn and then they beat #3 LSU a week later. There was a reason a team as good as they were didn't win some of those games. They were young and inexperienced, but they grew as a team and became a real threat to anyone in the country. I believe that they will be even better this year, who wouldn't. Offense and defense they were tops n the league. All 5 starters averaged 10+ pts a game. Even if I wasn't a fan of UF, I wouldn't want to face them this year b/c I would know how strong they were.:D

budgrove

11-13-2006, 09:56 PM

PITT lets go pitt!!!!

seekupig

11-13-2006, 11:43 PM

Even if I wasn't a fan of UF, I wouldn't want to face them this year b/c I would know how strong they were.:D

i for one, can't wait. November 25th in Las Vegas...... :thumbsup

darbini

11-13-2006, 11:52 PM

i for one, can't wait. November 25th in Las Vegas...... :thumbsup

Absolutely, that should be a good game:thumbsup

seekupig

11-13-2006, 11:55 PM

Absolutely, that should be a good game:thumbsup

can't wait to see the line from vegas on that game. i feel KU may be the favorite..... (but i hope not.)

clayj41

11-13-2006, 11:59 PM

Good to see IU has been their old inconsistent selves tonight...

clayj41

11-14-2006, 12:05 AM

Good to see IU has been their old inconsistent selves tonight...

...then they go on a 24-3 run and are up 20 now.:lol

SteelerMan

11-14-2006, 11:50 AM

Nice job Boston College.

RJ2kWJ

11-14-2006, 11:54 AM

You UNC fans ready to lose to Sacred Heart?

Ascf33

11-14-2006, 11:58 AM

UCONN.

That is all.

SteelerMan

11-14-2006, 12:58 PM

You UNC fans ready to lose to Sacred Heart?

Well, we did win the National Championship after losing to Santa Clara to open the season, so maybe it would be a good omen.

SteelerMan

11-14-2006, 01:29 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2661335

We've got so much talent we're sitting star players.

clayj41

11-14-2006, 01:52 PM

Well, we did win the National Championship after losing to Santa Clara to open the season, so maybe it would be a good omen.

:thumbsup It wouldn't be all bad...

UNC41

11-14-2006, 02:32 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2661335

We've got so much talent we're sitting star players.

Hansbrough, Terry, Wright, Ellington, Lawson, Ginyard, Green, Frasor, Miller, Thomas, Thompson, Stephenson. That depth is just sickening.

UNC41

11-14-2006, 06:36 PM

Nobody seemed interested in a "preseason" poll as I haven't gotten any responses. I'm going to go work a short shift and then workout. If I haven't heard from anyone at 10:00 pm Central, it looks like I get to determine our top 25.

mizzoudmbfan

11-14-2006, 07:05 PM

Sorry Dustin, looks like you guys won't be doing much this year. You made the SI cover.:lol Maybe this year you will lose to Butler in the first round(Bucknell, Bradley, Butler...it only makes sense).

I keed I keed;)

edit: upon further review it seems they are doing regional covers this year, so you guys might not get the full wrath of the curse. Has SI normally done regional covers?

snow1868

11-14-2006, 07:08 PM

They did it for the College Football preview as well. I got the Texas cover while some folks got Ohio State, West Virginia and I think there was one more, but I can't remember who it was.

VanHorneDog

11-14-2006, 07:46 PM

I cant believe my team isnt ranked, this is a debacle!

clayj41

11-14-2006, 10:56 PM

UNC41

11-14-2006, 11:14 PM

I'd be interested!

PM me.

clayj41

11-15-2006, 12:04 AM

PM me.

Sent!

SmoothG

11-15-2006, 12:08 AM

I cant believe my team isnt ranked, this is a debacle!

Who's your team??

UNC41

11-15-2006, 12:15 AM

That Butler comeback against Indiana is precisely the reason I love college basketball more than any other sport. It was great. The bank in three to clinch it ... fantastic. Wins against two major conference teams in November could be huge in March.

justinandimcool

11-15-2006, 12:16 AM

That Butler game was fun.

darbini

11-15-2006, 12:22 AM

Butler plays great D, always have

justinandimcool

11-15-2006, 12:23 AM

I've always wondered how they pick the preseason NIT. Just pull some teams out of a hat? :confused :)

Who's good from the Big 10 this year?

clayj41

11-15-2006, 12:24 AM

All I can say about that IU game is WOW!

VanHorneDog

11-15-2006, 12:25 AM

Who's your team??

ask anybody who knows me, i actually just wanted to use the word debacle :lol

SmoothG

11-15-2006, 12:27 AM

ask anybody who knows me, i actually just wanted to use the word debacle :lol

Okay...anyone who knows Alex care to share his favorite team...just out of curiosity. And yes, debacle is a great word.

VanHorneDog

11-15-2006, 12:45 AM

Okay...anyone who knows Alex care to share his favorite team...just out of curiosity. And yes, debacle is a great word.

not my favorite team, my school team. i go to ASU... we suck badly. and our rival is Arizona. we are gunna get killed. at least we will beat them at Football (or shoudl anyway) :cool

anyways, carry on.

UNC41

11-15-2006, 12:46 AM

Week 1 Ants College Basketball Poll

1. Florida (2)
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. UCLA
5. LSU
6.(tie) Georgetown
Pitt
Ohio St.
9. Wisconsin
10. Alabama
11. Duke
12. Texas A&M
13. Arizona
14. Memphis
15. Marquette
16.(tie) Boston College
Washington
18.(tie) Georgia Tech
Texas
20. Syracuse
21. Uconn
22. Tennessee
23.(tie) Nevada
Gonzaga
25.(tie) Creighton
Kentucky

Participating members: UNC41, clayj41

Tuesdays at noon central will be the deadline to have polls PMed to me in future weeks.

justinandimcool

11-15-2006, 12:48 AM

I'd participate if I knew anything about the teams this preseason. :lol

SmoothG

11-15-2006, 12:53 AM

not my favorite team, my school team. i go to ASU... we suck badly. and our rival is Arizona. we are gunna get killed. at least we will beat them at Football (or shoudl anyway) :cool

anyways, carry on.

I'll try not to hold it against you. I graduated high school in Scottsdale and went to U of A before graduating from NAU. I really really hate Scum Devils more than any institution on earth. Although my hatred is now really reserved for when they play each other. I route for them cause they are in the Pac 10. Basketball is not much of a competition and you'll still lose to us in football as well. :violent

clayj41

11-15-2006, 01:01 AM

darbini

11-15-2006, 02:03 AM

We should've skewed the rankings to make UNC #1 since we were the only 2 who participated.:lol

But then you'd just be lying to yourselves!!:D

(Go Gators!)

VanHorneDog

11-15-2006, 03:07 AM

I'll try not to hold it against you. I graduated high school in Scottsdale and went to U of A before graduating from NAU. I really really hate Scum Devils more than any institution on earth. Although my hatred is now really reserved for when they play each other. I route for them cause they are in the Pac 10. Basketball is not much of a competition and you'll still lose to us in football as well. :violent

being a california boy myself, i am not really into the UofA/ASU rivalry as much as some people.

as a matter of fact i really dont have a NCAA team cuz SDSU sucks and i have a disdain for USC and UCLA. but, i am a pac 10 fan so i will root for any pac 10 team in the tourny or in a bowl game :thumbsup.

lets just say this, the pac 10 hopes rest on UofA and UCLA this year so go bring the tittle to the Pac 10! maybe some stupid tall kid will think ASU actually won the tittle not UofA and will come here and make our program better! :lol

but, im going to be wearing my ASU jersey down in Tuscan the day after thanksgiving and routing on my devils with my friends! know any good bars down there for when we lose?!??! :lol

EDIT: or for that matter win. :lol

UNC41

11-15-2006, 12:20 PM

I absolutely cannot wait for tonight to see the Heels for the first time this season ...

I want to see Hansbrough. Everything I've read says he's bigger, stronger, just as hungry and according to an opposing coach at least 30% better than last year.

I want to see Reyshawn in a leadership role. He had a couple of sick dunks last night, and is one of the most talented returning players in the ACC. He can do pretty much anything on the basketball court.

I want to see the freshmen play. Lawson is the one who excites me most. From what I hear he's something like a cross between Raymond Felton and Dee Brown. In other words, the prototypical point guard to run for Roy. But I get almost excited about Wright. The guy is long, lean and athletic. I've already seen a couple of huge dunks for him. I think he'll be raw offensively, but with Hansbrough demanding so much attention will be the perfect compliment as someone who can get to the bucket for a dunk and hopefully be a monster on the offensive glass. Ellington, from what I hear, can simply fill the bucket. I hear McCants comparisons, sans the attitude. The other freshmen big probably won't see too much time with Hansbrough, Terry and Wright taking up most of the front court tickets.

I want to see Danny Green come off the bench and show the potential he has to be an absolute stud on the wing next year. He was a McDonalds All-American who can light up the scoreboard so many different ways. I'm banking on him no longer being a black hole when he gets the ball with one year under his belt.

I want to see Marcus Ginyard give the defensive lift that will be needed at times this year. It seems like he gets lost in the shuffle at times. He's got the potential to become Jackie Manuel with an offensive game. I see Ginyard making an NBA roster someday.

I haven't even mentioned the stability Bobby Fraser will bring to both guard positions or leadership, clutch long range shooting, hustle and humility in accepting a lesser role this season because he thinks it's best for the team from Wes Miller.

Tonight's tipoff can't come soon enough ...

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 12:26 PM

Did you get to see the game last night? I don't have ESPNU, so I didn't get to watch it. The fact that it was close at halftime had me a little worried.

UNC41

11-15-2006, 12:30 PM

seekupig

11-15-2006, 12:51 PM

We should've skewed the rankings to make UNC #1 since we were the only 2 who participated.:lol

more importantly, i think whichever one of you gave Kentucky a vote should take responsibility for that and show yourself.

UNC41

11-15-2006, 12:53 PM

more importantly, i think whichever one of you gave Kentucky a vote should take responsibility for that and show yourself.

Twas not I.

seekupig

11-15-2006, 01:10 PM

hypothetical question..........

IF Kansas beats Florida next weekend, do they leapfrog UNC to #1, or do both teams move up a spot?

clayj41

11-15-2006, 01:11 PM

more importantly, i think whichever one of you gave Kentucky a vote should take responsibility for that and show yourself.

Eh, I ranked them 24th...:shrug

clayj41

11-15-2006, 01:11 PM

hypothetical question..........

IF Kansas beats Florida next weekend, do they leapfrog UNC to #1, or do both teams move up a spot?

I think they leapfrog...

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 01:25 PM

I think it depends on how UNC plays between now and then. If they're blowing people out and look impressive, I say they move up to #1. Otherwise, Kansas will probably leapfrog them.

seekupig

11-15-2006, 01:49 PM

I think it depends on how UNC plays between now and then. If they're blowing people out and look impressive, I say they move up to #1. Otherwise, Kansas will probably leapfrog them.

even if they're blowing out nobody's?

the two games the Tar Heels play between now and the KU vs. Florida game are against Winthrop and Gardner-Webb. they should look impressive and blow both teams out. If the UNC vs. Ohio State game was played before the Kansas vs. Florida game, i'd agree with you. i think it also depends on how impressive KU looks against Florida if they win.....

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 01:59 PM

hypothetical question..........

IF Kansas beats Florida next weekend, do they leapfrog UNC to #1, or do both teams move up a spot?
by college football precedent no, though ive always said if you beat team ranked "X" you should swap ratings :lol anywho if KU beats UF, UNC will move up and KU will be #2. if OH ST beats Mich this weekend in theory michigan shouldn't drop because they are a better team than florida, however, because we love drama and the bcs, florida becomes #2 in the polls, usc stays #3 in the bcs thus moving to #2 and plays for the title unless of course they lose to Cal or ND in which case chaos ensues. bottom lime: UNC #1, KU #2, UF #3, maybe a tad lower depending. we'll see what happens with UNC/Ohio State and UNC/UK

seekupig

11-15-2006, 02:08 PM

by college football precedent no, though ive always said if you beat team ranked "X" you should swap ratings :lol anywho if KU beats UF, UNC will move up and KU will be #2. if OH ST beats Mich this weekend in theory michigan shouldn't drop because they are a better team than florida, however, because we love drama and the bcs, florida becomes #2 in the polls, usc stays #3 in the bcs thus moving to #2 and plays for the title unless of course they lose to Cal or ND in which case chaos ensues. bottom lime: UNC #1, KU #2, UF #3, maybe a tad lower depending. we'll see what happens with UNC/Ohio State and UNC/UK

the reason i asked is because a few years ago, the Jayhawks started the season as preseason #1 and Wake Forest jumped from #4 to #1 by winning the preseason NIT before Kansas had even played a game. luckily basketball has the best postseason event in all of sports so rankings mean nothing.... it just gives us something to talk about.

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 02:45 PM

the reason i asked is because a few years ago, the Jayhawks started the season as preseason #1 and Wake Forest jumped from #4 to #1 by winning the preseason NIT before Kansas had even played a game. luckily basketball has the best postseason event in all of sports so rankings mean nothing.... it just gives us something to talk about.
i really don't think the way that happened was legit at all. id support KU going to #1 if they were to beat UF for that week, though if UNC takes care of ohio state and uk, i'd expect ku to fall the following week

UNC41

11-15-2006, 03:44 PM

If Kansas looks impressive in a win over Florida I'd leapfrog them to No. 1. There could be an argument made at that point if UNC went through the NIT undefeated with wins over two ranked teams in Gonzaga and Tennesse. I, however, would put Kansas at the top so long as they didn't look like utter shit and somehow squeek out a win over the Gators.

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 03:59 PM

even if they're blowing out nobody's?

Well, I look at it this way... voters have already decided they think UNC is better than Kansas right now. For Kansas to jump over them, they'll have to convince the voters that they're better than UNC. If UNC is blowing out their opponents (regardless of who they are), even if Kansas beats Florida, I'm not sure it would be enough to convince voters that Kansas is better than UNC.

darbini

11-15-2006, 04:04 PM

If KU beats Florida then they should be #1

rconverse

11-15-2006, 04:16 PM

the reason i asked is because a few years ago, the Jayhawks started the season as preseason #1 and Wake Forest jumped from #4 to #1 by winning the preseason NIT before Kansas had even played a game. luckily basketball has the best postseason event in all of sports so rankings mean nothing.... it just gives us something to talk about.

Thank God, CBB has the tournament at the end of the year. I couldn't handle the stress of watching the polls religiously after football season.

UNC41

11-15-2006, 05:15 PM

FYI, Al Horford is better than Joakim Noah.

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 05:50 PM

FYI, Al Horford is better than Joakim Noah.
so was charlie villanueva

CrashDMB237

11-15-2006, 06:40 PM

No. I don't have it either. From what I heard Reyshawn got in foul trouble early and then energized the team to run away with it in the second half. All 18 he scored came after halftime.

I think they'll be fine. It'll take a while for all of that talent to mesh, figure out rotations for so many players and the freshmen to get used to the college game, but they'll be fine.

I'm actually the sports editor for the Sacred Heart newspaper. I was at the game last night as a member of the press covering the game with two of my guys. I had an amazing time. I was on the floor for most of the game taking pictures. It was unreal just walking on the court with UNC. We don't get any big name opponents so this is new to me.

Everyone was so nice. Roy Williams was great after the game, he kept making jokes about Tyler falling in pregames (which was hilarious). He was a real nice guy too, he talked to me for a bit. He said everyone is worried about how he's going to find time for all the players except him. Tyler is a great kid too. Not the brightest kid in the world, but again, really nice. And yes, he DID get bigger. That was the first time I've seen him in person, and standing out on the court while he's dunking medicine balls one-handed pretty much confirmed the fact that he's a BEAST.

As far as the actual game goes... you guys got some perimeter defense issues. Our boy Luke Granata dropped 8 three's on you guys and most of them were wide open. I know its way early and its preseason NIT so they aren't really into the game, but thats just what I noticed.

Either way, I'll post some pics I took from the court probably tomorrow in this thread. Charlotte kicked my ass but it was a damn good time.

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 06:48 PM

I'm actually the sports editor for the Sacred Heart newspaper. I was at the game last night as a member of the press covering the game with two of my guys. I had an amazing time. I was on the floor for most of the game taking pictures. It was unreal just walking on the court with UNC. We don't get any big name opponents so this is new to me.

Everyone was so nice. Roy Williams was great after the game, he kept making jokes about Tyler falling in pregames (which was hilarious). He was a real nice guy too, he talked to me for a bit. He said everyone is worried about how he's going to find time for all the players except him. Tyler is a great kid too. Not the brightest kid in the world, but again, really nice. And yes, he DID get bigger. That was the first time I've seen him in person, and standing out on the court while he's dunking medicine balls one-handed pretty much confirmed the fact that he's a BEAST.

As far as the actual game goes... you guys got some perimeter defense issues. Our boy Luke Granata dropped 8 three's on you guys and most of them were wide open. I know its way early and its preseason NIT so they aren't really into the game, but thats just what I noticed.

Either way, I'll post some pics I took from the court probably tomorrow in this thread. Charlotte kicked my ass but it was a damn good time.

:thumbsup

Awesome. Did you actually get to talk to Tyler? Did you ask him about liking Spongebob Squarepants? :lol

darbini

11-15-2006, 07:04 PM

FYI, Al Horford is better than Joakim Noah.

That's for sure. He worked on his jumper in the off season and will be a monster this year. Hell, Lee Humphrey outscored Noah in the final 2 games in the NCAA tourney.

CrashDMB237

11-15-2006, 07:10 PM

:thumbsup

Awesome. Did you actually get to talk to Tyler? Did you ask him about liking Spongebob Squarepants? :lol

It was more business than casual but we joked a bit about him falling. Roy actually talked about it during the press conference, he really made the whole atmosphere that much more enjoyable. You usually big time coaches act like press conferences are a waste of their time and its like you're troubling them by getting these quotes. Not Roy though.

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 08:35 PM

UNC down 5 against Winthrop?

Jelly down 10 against Miami... of Ohio???

It's November Madness!!!

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 08:48 PM

winthrop....grrrrr

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 08:55 PM

Well... we have no chemistry, we apparently can't shoot threes, and we have no perimeter defense...

But daaaaaamn was that alley oop from Frasor to Wright sweet!!!

I expect us to come back in the 2nd half. Look for the Heels to give Winthrop a healthy dose of Tyler.

rconverse

11-15-2006, 09:00 PM

Here we go Winthrop, here we go! *clap clap*

Haha. I have no illusions that this game will continue the way it is, but am enjoying it while it lasts.

Go Duke!

rconverse

11-15-2006, 09:01 PM

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 09:03 PM

We? Are you positng from their locker room?

Yeah, I'm a reserve for UNC's basketball team. I'm typing from my laptop in the locker room as Coach Roy is screaming at the players.

rconverse

11-15-2006, 09:05 PM

:lol

I wouldn't mind being a fly on the wall, but I wouldn't want to be a player.

Props to Roy for pulling all five players in the first half. I respect that.

Also, the last two buckets were way too easy for UNC.

rconverse

11-15-2006, 09:05 PM

Wow. If you are going to foul someone, foul them.

I hate pansy ass slap fouls.

darbini

11-15-2006, 09:09 PM

Go Winthrop hahahaha

justinandimcool

11-15-2006, 09:10 PM

This game is :hump. What conference is Winthrop from by the way (hehe, I'm a retard)

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 09:35 PM

This game is :hump. What conference is Winthrop from by the way (hehe, I'm a retard)

I think they said the Big South.

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 09:35 PM

theyre hot from 3 tonight

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 09:36 PM

great offensive rebound, fuckin awesome scoop :lol

justinandimcool

11-15-2006, 09:37 PM

I think they said the Big South.

Yeah. All these years they've been in the tourney I've always forgetten what conference they were from.

justinandimcool

11-15-2006, 09:37 PM

theyre hot from 3 tonight

That's because they've taken at least 2 from downtown each possession.

clayj41

11-15-2006, 09:42 PM

The Heels are looking much better in the second half.

Hansbrough is a beast!!!:multi

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 09:42 PM

too much tyler tonight...over using him...good night whinny though...

clayj41

11-15-2006, 09:46 PM

too much tyler tonight...over using him...good night whinny though...

They're a young team, so they're gonna have to depend on him a lot. As the season progresses, the freshmen will step up into more pivotal roles. I'd like to see Terry play better though.

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 09:49 PM

along with ginyard

clayj41

11-15-2006, 09:51 PM

along with ginyard

Yeah, it seems like everyone but Hansbrough haven't played to the best of their abilities tonight. That's not saying that they've played horrible, it's just that they could play better.

clayj41

11-15-2006, 09:53 PM

Ellington and Wright have been nice surprises though. Lawson didn't look half bad either. He was a little out of control sometimes but with his speed that is bound to happen.

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 09:55 PM

indeed, but ginyard and terry are really inconsistent, also stemming from last year

clayj41

11-15-2006, 09:58 PM

indeed, but ginyard and terry are really inconsistent, also stemming from last year

Yeah, they always have been. I really expect a lot from Terry this year though......that's game!

bustdstuff

11-15-2006, 10:06 PM

Hi guys. Haven't been around in forever, and don't when I'll be able to get back, but hopefully I'll have some sort of PC after xmas. Any way good to see UNC come back after the halftime deficit, and can't believe that KU is down to OR. I can see being down to Winthrop at the half (only because after years of being tobacco roads whipping boy for so long you have to get better at some point), but Oral Roberts? KU better get on it.

P.S. Good to see Duke in the top 10.:monkey

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:09 PM

bustdstuff

11-15-2006, 10:12 PM

I love the whole bball season. Very excited to get to know this years Duke team. And the ACC should be back to full force (less BC and Miami; we know they don't really count yet).;) ;)

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:13 PM

I love the whole bball season. Very excited to get to know this years Duke team. And the ACC should be back to full force (less BC and Miami; we know they don't really count yet).;) ;)

:lol I'm looking forward to UNC dominating all year long.:D

bustdstuff

11-15-2006, 10:16 PM

:lol I'm looking forward to UNC dominating all year long.:D

You hope, but even I would caution you. I've seen a 38-2 season with that second one coming in the championship game. Anything and everything can and will happen in a college bball season. Who would of thought that Bobby Knight would be on the hot seat this early?

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:19 PM

You hope, but even I would caution you. I've seen a 38-2 season with that second one coming in the championship game. Anything and everything can and will happen in a college bball season. Who would of thought that Bobby Knight would be on the hot seat this early?

Yeah, Duke has had such great teams througout the years each capable of winning the national championship yet they often came up shorthanded. Everything has to click in March for a team to have a chance. As for Knight, I fully support him!

bustdstuff

11-15-2006, 10:27 PM

Yeah, Duke has had such great teams througout the years each capable of winning the national championship yet they often came up shorthanded. Everything has to click in March for a team to have a chance. As for Knight, I fully support him!

First I want to agree with you about a team clicking in March. I think the ACC and Big X conference tourneys are probably the best warmups to the big dance as a team can get. As for Knight, I wouldn't hire him nor if I ever had a child would I let him play for him. His past behavior (even towards his own son) dictates that he shouldn't be coaching at this level, however the parents that send their kids to him are just as much to blame.

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:32 PM

First I want to agree with you about a team clicking in March. I think the ACC and Big X conference tourneys are probably the best warmups to the big dance as a team can get. As for Knight, I wouldn't hire him nor if I ever had a child would I let him play for him. His past behavior (even towards his own son) dictates that he shouldn't be coaching at this level, however the parents that send their kids to him are just as much to blame.

I don't fully support some of his actions, but I can't argue with the results. He motivates his players to play to their full potential and although is techniques may sometimes be unorthodox and heated, it is the only way he knows how to coach. That being said, I wouldn't let my kids play for him but I would have no problem with my school hiring him to coach. He is still a beloved figure here at IU and many would advocate his return even though it could never work.

unccrombie

11-15-2006, 10:33 PM

dmbigeyedphish

11-15-2006, 10:35 PM

How come you guys don't cheer for the school you attend?

haildmb

11-15-2006, 10:37 PM

any other coach in america, what happened with Bob Knight wouldn't even be mentioned. I think it's a huge overreaction

Go Blue Devils (had to throw that in)

haildmb

11-15-2006, 10:38 PM

so... Oral Roberts is 7 minutes from beating Kansas. In Kansas. Isn't Kansas supposed to wait until about the 2nd week of March to lose to that kind of team?

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 10:38 PM

How come you guys don't cheer for the school you attend?

I do... but my former school is in the NAIA. I'm allowed to have an NCAA team as well (plus I've been a UNC fan for ten years :D ).

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:39 PM

How come you guys don't cheer for the school you attend?

I've been a Carolina fan since I was 10 years old, during the Stackhouse, Wallace, Cota, Jamison, Carter years. I was raised around IU fans and that may be the reason I decided to follow another team. Don't get me wrong, I still cheer for IU but my heart truly lies with the Tar Heels. When IU and UNC played 2 years ago at Assembly Hall I was all decked out in Carolina Blue though.:D

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:39 PM

any other coach in america, what happened with Bob Knight wouldn't even be mentioned. I think it's a huge overreaction

:thumbsup That is the most important distinction that can be drawn from all of this.

clayj41

11-15-2006, 10:40 PM

knight as a coach = :thumbsup
knight as a human = :thumbsdow

dont confuse the two ;)

Exactly!

haildmb

11-15-2006, 10:40 PM

How come you guys don't cheer for the school you attend?

went to NCSU, pull for NCSU, except when they play my Blue Devils. Been a Duke fan since I was very, very small, they were a part of me long before I considered attending NCSU. Why would that change?

dmbigeyedphish

11-15-2006, 10:42 PM

I do... but my former school is in the NAIA. I'm allowed to have an NCAA team as well (plus I've been a UNC fan for ten years :D ).

I've been a Carolina fan since I was 10 years old, during the Stackhouse, Wallace, Cota, Jamison, Carter years. I was raised around IU fans and that may be the reason I decided to follow another team. Don't get me wrong, I still cheer for IU but my heart truly lies with the Tar Heels. When IU and UNC played 2 years ago at Assembly Hall I was all decked out in Carolina Blue though.:D

Completely understandable then.:) As a student at NCSU (We're gonna blow this year), I have to deal with people who didn't like UNC until they won a national championship..I also have to hear them talk shit to me, which is kind of ridiculous. I also find that a lot of homeless people wear UNC gear, which is weird. My brother went there so I've been around UNC fans forever, so I see where ya'll are coming from. I guess there are a few that ruin the bunch...kind of like dmb fans.:cool

snow1868

11-15-2006, 10:43 PM

so... Oral Roberts is 7 minutes from beating Kansas. In Kansas. Isn't Kansas supposed to wait until about the 2nd week of March to lose to that kind of team?

You can never underestimate a Sutton coached team. :D

dmbigeyedphish

11-15-2006, 10:43 PM

went to NCSU, pull for NCSU, except when they play my Blue Devils. Been a Duke fan since I was very, very small, they were a part of me long before I considered attending NCSU. Why would that change?

No, it's cool, as long as you have a reason, I run into too many bandwagon fans.

haildmb

11-15-2006, 10:44 PM

No, it's cool, as long as you have a reason, I run into too many bandwagon fans.

Oh yeah, I'm from North Carolina too, the state is full of bandwagon fans. :)

SteelerMan

11-15-2006, 10:46 PM

Completely understandable then.:) As a student at NCSU (We're gonna blow this year), I have to deal with people who didn't like UNC until they won a national championship..I also have to hear them talk shit to me, which is kind of ridiculous. I also find that a lot of homeless people wear UNC gear, which is weird. My brother went there so I've been around UNC fans forever, so I see where ya'll are coming from. I guess there are a few that ruin the bunch...kind of like dmb fans.:cool

Yeah, I don't like bandwagon fans either. That's interesting about homeless people wearing UNC gear... hopefully they're not former law students. :lol I'll be applying to law school there soon. It's tough to get in from out of state though.