Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released [Archive] - Page 57

UNC41

12-23-2006, 08:03 PM

Defensively Oden is a complete beast.

Offensively the Buckeyes are better off without him on the floor right now. It might be that they are still trying to gel with Oden on the floor, or it might be that the other players play better with the style of play the Buckeyes had before he came back. I'm not sure which it is yet.

darbini

12-23-2006, 08:47 PM

I believe the Gators had a great game plan and executed it. With Oden on the floor they got him moving and picked them apart, with him on the bench they just played their game like they know how. I didn't think Horford was going to play, but he did, and he made some great playes offensively and defensively. I have watched every single one of the Gators games this year and I think they played alot better than earlier on. They reformed and gelled pretty nicely today. 26pts, damn. I think it was more of UF dominating than Ohio State not performing.

darbini

12-23-2006, 08:47 PM

Oh yeah, Oden is a beast for sure.

UNC41

12-23-2006, 08:52 PM

HolyCow

12-23-2006, 11:11 PM

I got frustrated watching Ohio St. They jack way too many threes without the ball going inside one time. They have a freakin monster inside, and though he may not have developed skills yet, he has got to touch the ball more.

An dump to him and he could kick out all day to those three point shooters. But today it was one pass and a jack.

But Florida is dang good. Corey Brewer is awesome. I think he is Florida's best player.

seekupig

12-24-2006, 02:07 AM

Wow, I knew our December 23rd game at Kansas was important. It should be a good game!

Dan

good game. :thumbsup :D ;)

seekupig

12-24-2006, 02:10 AM

I got frustrated watching Ohio St. They jack way too many threes without the ball going inside one time.

the funny thing is, that's the exact thing that kept the game close with UNC.

HolyCow

12-24-2006, 03:07 AM

the funny thing is, that's the exact thing that kept the game close with UNC.
They live and die by it...

In March, as we all know, you can't live by it... you have to have something else if you want to go deep.

justinandimcool

12-24-2006, 03:12 AM

They live and die by it...

In March, as we all know, you can't live by it... you have to have something else if you want to go deep.

Well, they're a step ahead of everyone else when it comes to their "something else", you bet Oden's gonna step it up when March rolls around.

And USC beats Wichita State! Hopefully a win against Washington next week will put them on the map, just a little bit.

seekupig

12-24-2006, 03:19 AM

Well, they're a step ahead of everyone else when it comes to their "something else", you bet Oden's gonna step it up when March rolls around.

...if he can stay out of foul trouble. i'm still not sold that he's the best freshman in the nation. he may have the most potential in the long run, but he still has some pretty glaring weaknesses to address....

UNC41

12-24-2006, 03:37 AM

the funny thing is, that's the exact thing that kept the game close with UNC.

:thumbsup

They were allegedly a top two or three team in the nation without Oden after they made everything against Carolina. Now, once OSU shoots 25% against Florida they are overrated.

I think Oden may conflict their whole offensive scheme. The gameplan was completely different today than it was against UNC. The thing is, however, they had rhythm against the Heels where the offense clearly did not today.

UNC41

12-24-2006, 03:38 AM

...if he can stay out of foul trouble. i'm still not sold that he's the best freshman in the nation. he may have the most potential in the long run, but he still has some pretty glaring weaknesses to address....

Kevin Durant is the best frosh in the nation and it's not even close.

Trippin4136

12-24-2006, 12:39 PM

...if he can stay out of foul trouble. i'm still not sold that he's the best freshman in the nation. he may have the most potential in the long run, but he still has some pretty glaring weaknesses to address....

just wait until he's fully healthy and the team gains the needed rhythm.

They did look extremely sloppy yesterday.

darbini

12-24-2006, 12:55 PM

Get a big man with great defense against Oden and you see what happens, he was 2/6 with 2 dunks. Make him adjust, get him moving. Horford really handled him well, especially in the 2nd half. Brewer/Horford are both going to be great in the NBA, followed by Humphrey, Noah, then Green.

HolyCow

12-24-2006, 04:02 PM

bubba40

12-25-2006, 01:54 AM

Anyone else REALLY impressed with Al Horford after Saturday afternoon's game?

chiznaz

12-25-2006, 04:23 AM

I tried posting a long reply about why Durant is the best fresh so far right now, but it didn't work. Long story short, has offensive game is so smooth and versitile. If he puts on like 20 lbs of muscle, very few ppl will be able to gaurd him.

unccrombie

12-25-2006, 12:19 PM

Anyone else REALLY impressed with Al Horford after Saturday afternoon's game?
i was more impressed with his minutes than his play

SteelerMan

12-25-2006, 02:14 PM

Kevin Durant is the best frosh in the nation and it's not even close.

I think Brandan Wright is just as good. UNC just hasn't had to rely on him the way that Texas has had to rely on Durant.

darbini

12-27-2006, 02:23 PM

Anyone else REALLY impressed with Al Horford after Saturday afternoon's game?

I was really impressed with him mid-season last year up till now, but this season he has expanded his game. He can spot up and hit those mid-range jumpers, pass and run down the court, rebound like a freak, etc. Donovan has really developed some great NBA players.

UNC41

12-27-2006, 04:03 PM

I think Brandan Wright is just as good. UNC just hasn't had to rely on him the way that Texas has had to rely on Durant.

Wright has the potential to be just as good, but right now Durant is more polished.

justinandimcool

12-29-2006, 01:55 AM

Shit. USC up by three with one second, a 7 footer takes it to double OT. Life. :(

justinandimcool

12-29-2006, 02:05 AM

Woohoo! We did it!

chiznaz

12-29-2006, 02:51 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=263620245

Grambling State can go crawl back into its little hold. They tried to suck 25K out of A&M for wanting to move the tip-off time from 7pm to 4pm. The original tip-off was conflicting with the A&M bowl game(which turned out to be crap anyways). Point being, I'm gald we never let up on them, even with the starters goingto the bench with 11 min left. They tried to suckers us out of money and got what was coming to them.

UNC41

12-29-2006, 03:20 AM

Carolina looked gooooooooooooood tonight. The second half was a complete clinic. Three freshmen, Wright, Ellington and Lawson, were the three best players on the floor. With that, here is who I think the best frosh in the nation are by position.

C - Greg Oden, Ohio State
PF - Brandan Wright - North Carolina
SF - Kevin Durant - Texas
SG - Daaquan Cook - Ohio State
PG - Ty Lawson - North Carolina

UNC41

12-29-2006, 07:43 PM

How is Duke as bad as they are offensively this year. Is it because Coach K has ONLY 6 McDonalds All-Americans to work with? Does he need more?

RJ2kWJ

12-29-2006, 07:59 PM

How is Duke as bad as they are offensively this year. Is it because Coach K has ONLY 6 McDonalds All-Americans to work with? Does he need more?

No idea... We are relying on defense every ball game. :shrug

UNC41

12-29-2006, 09:08 PM

No idea... We are relying on defense every ball game. :shrug

The defense has been stellar, but I have no idea how they are that bad offensively. I do think Coach K needs to spread some minutes out or it will come to bit Duke eventually. The past two games have been played with essentially a six-man rotation.

unccrombie

12-29-2006, 09:19 PM

The defense has been stellar, but I have no idea how they are that bad offensively. I do think Coach K needs to spread some minutes out or it will come to bit Duke eventually. The past two games have been played with essentially a six-man rotation.
they had that problem with jj's team too, and look what happened :)

~Crashintome89~

12-29-2006, 10:08 PM

I hate Hofstra.

chiznaz

12-30-2006, 03:24 AM

Oh by the way. Some little fun facts about the A&M bball vs football games last night.

-The basketball team's defense held its opponent to less points compared to the football team:lol
-Our opponent in basketball had more turnovers than it did points(30 TO and 27 Pts):lol

not that anyone cares, but I thought I would share.

seekupig

12-30-2006, 03:27 AM

With that, here is who I think the best frosh in the nation are by position.

C - Greg Oden, Ohio State
PF - Brandan Wright - North Carolina
SF - Kevin Durant - Texas
SG - Daaquan Cook - Ohio State
PG - Ty Lawson - North Carolina

no Darrell Arthur? i'm hurt...:(

UNC41

12-30-2006, 01:25 PM

no Darrell Arthur? i'm hurt...:(

I think we'd have a solid game if this team of freshman played the other ones. This class is uberdeep.

C - Spencer Hawes - Washington
PF - Darrell Arthur - Kansas
SF - Chase Budinger - Arizona
SG - Wayne Ellington - North Carolina
PG - Mike Conley Jr. - Ohio State

SoRight24

12-30-2006, 02:27 PM

Ellington is sick-nasty.

So is Arthur.

unccrombie

12-30-2006, 05:15 PM

down go the huskies

UNC41

12-30-2006, 05:30 PM

I didn't watch the UConn game. Were the exposed as overrated or did it look like a lot of talent there just played a bad game?

unccrombie

12-30-2006, 06:54 PM

I didn't watch the UConn game. Were the exposed as overrated or did it look like a lot of talent there just played a bad game?
oh they were exposed...big time. they were down 15 most of the game

seekupig

12-31-2006, 01:45 AM

chiznaz

12-31-2006, 05:54 AM

i'm not sure what Bill Self is doing with the starting lineup, but hopefully it continues to work. Julian Wright and Darell Arthur are both coming off of the bench while Sasha Kaun and Rodrick Stewart are starting. they are going with a 4 guard, 1 center starting five. not sure if it's for chemistry reasons or if there aren't enough shots to go around if the top 5 scorers are on the court at the same time. any thoughts?

I'm going to go with guesses here, b/c I don't know too much about KU's team.

He could be going with a faster lineup to start the game. It's a nice way to set the tone of the game, especially if you have some fast guys. It could also be a defensive thing. How is Arthur and Wright's defensive skills so far? Matchup problems aren't as big in college as they can be in the NBA, so sometimes coaches put a better defender out there even if he's smaller.

Also, and I know the Spurs have done this with Manu, but he might be bringing them off the bench in order to add depth to KU's bench. Like you said... not enough shots to go around. You can have your three of your top five scorers to start out the game. It probably won't be that big of a difference, but now you have great players like Arthur and Wright coming off the bench, and you won't have a scoring drought if someone needs a break or gets in quick foul trouble. I would think this would be the reason.

seekupig

01-02-2007, 09:51 AM

I'm going to go with guesses here, b/c I don't know too much about KU's team.

i found the answer..... apparently they were late for practice. seems to have worked, Julian Wright went out and scored a career high 23 pts. coming off the bench.....

"We had a time management issue with three of our athletes in the last couple of days," Jayhawks coach Bill Self said. "Julian, Darnell (Jackson) and (Darrell Arthur (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=31786)). So we did not start those three."

Wright, the only one of those three who normally does start, was not surprised he landed in the doghouse.

UNC41

01-02-2007, 12:36 PM

Polls in by 5:00 pm central today. Last week didn't happen b/c of Christmas, but let's get this thing back going.

UNC41

01-02-2007, 07:13 PM

No one submitted a poll, so my poll is officially the Ants poll.

1. UCLA (1)
2. North Carolina
3. Florida
4. Wisconsin
5. Ohio State
6. Arizona
7. Kansas
8. Duke
9. Alabama
10. Texas A&M
11. Oklahoma State
12. Pittsburgh
13. Butler
14. Tennessee
15. Notre Dame
16. Oregon
17. LSU
18. Oregon
19. UConn
20. Clemson
21. Air Force
22. Marquette
23. Washington
24. Nevada
25. Memphis

unccrombie

01-02-2007, 07:21 PM

so oh. st crushing indiana by around 15 pts?

chiznaz

01-03-2007, 03:54 AM

i found the answer..... apparently they were late for practice. seems to have worked, Julian Wright went out and scored a career high 23 pts. coming off the bench.....

"We had a time management issue with three of our athletes in the last couple of days," Jayhawks coach Bill Self said. "Julian, Darnell (Jackson) and (Darrell Arthur (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=31786)). So we did not start those three."

Wright, the only one of those three who normally does start, was not surprised he landed in the doghouse.

:thumbsup
Good for Self. They learned a lesson and won't be showing up late anymore

A&M beat up on Winthrop tonight(20pts). Winthrop played some close games with some very good teams, so this will help A&M with the tourny. Can't wait to open up BigXII play with KSU. :)

snow1868

01-03-2007, 01:04 PM

The Pokes dominated SWOSU last night with only a 7 player rotation. Harris hopefully will be back when we open Big XII play with Baylor. He certainly needs to be ready to go on the 10th when we take on the Jayhawks! Cannot wait for that game.

UNC41

01-03-2007, 08:02 PM

I'm excited to watch Bill Walker play right now. From what I hear KSU has been playing like a tournament team since he joined the team. I wonder how much of this crowd will be pro-KSU, I mean pro-Huggins.

Of course, I'm just watching this until UNC and Penn tip off.

unccrombie

01-03-2007, 11:18 PM

holy crap, uva up 62-28 on zaga

seekupig

01-04-2007, 12:00 AM

holy crap, uva up 62-28 on zaga

the zags haven't looked good lately....

i'm sitting here wondering how in the hell that team beat the Tar Heels....

SatelliteEyes

01-04-2007, 12:08 AM

UNC41

01-04-2007, 12:12 AM

seekupig

01-04-2007, 12:13 AM

Go Wisconsin. Bracketology has them as a #1 seed. I don't knowif they'll be there in the end but I see only Ohio State as a threat to them now that Conference play is beginning, and I figure we'll split with OSU. Go Bucky.

not a team i'd want to face in the tourney....

i think i picked them to win the Big 10 before the season started. very well rounded team.

UNC41

01-04-2007, 12:20 AM

I think there are seven teams that have separated themselves so far this year. Any could probably beat any on a neutral court ...

UCLA, UNC, Florida, Wisconsin, Arizona, Ohio State, Kansas

unccrombie

01-04-2007, 12:41 AM

side note, notre dame football is terrible. god damn do they piss me off

SteelerMan

01-04-2007, 12:22 PM

I have no idea what has happened with Gonzaga.

This UNC team could be special. They didn't play a fantastic game, especially defensively, but there are so many players that can hurt you. I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a team this deep. I do, however, wish they'd stop with the 2005 comparisons.

Yeah, this team is NOTHING like the 2005 team. The '05 team really only went six deep. With this year's team, their bench could be a Top 15 team. It's going to be great watching them develop chemistry and form an identity over the course of the season. So far, watching UNC has been sort of like watching an NBA Draft Camp team or something... so many great players, but I just don't get a sense of cohesiveness like I did with Felton/May/McCants. I'm sure it'll change as the season progresses.

UNC41

01-04-2007, 01:29 PM

Yeah, this team is NOTHING like the 2005 team. The '05 team really only went six deep. With this year's team, their bench could be a Top 15 team. It's going to be great watching them develop chemistry and form an identity over the course of the season. So far, watching UNC has been sort of like watching an NBA Draft Camp team or something... so many great players, but I just don't get a sense of cohesiveness like I did with Felton/May/McCants. I'm sure it'll change as the season progresses.

There are some similarities in individual players. Lawson (Felton) and Ginyard (Manuel) are the two biggest ones. Ellington has a similar stroke to McCants (I think it's sweeter), but cannot post up and does not have the all-around offensive game like McCants. Overall, the team is very different than the 2005 team, and hate those claims because this team should not be feeling like they are a championship team right now. They have all the skill to be one, but need to work on a few things like everyone right now.

I don't know if the UNC bench would be Top 15, but they'd probably finish in the top 4 of the ACC and definitely be an NCAA Tournament team. Tje starters need to start coming out better at the beginning of the game, but it's good to know the Blue Team can come in and dominate.

UNC41

01-04-2007, 08:22 PM

Rick Majerus is an idiot. Approximately 75% of my turds are smarter than him. How does he have a job with ESPN.

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 08:27 PM

Rick Majerus is an idiot. Approximately 75% of my turds are smarter than him. How does he have a job with ESPN.

I hate when somebody asks him to put his input on a subject.

He goes on for like ten minutes with some bullshit coaching talk. They know how to run the O-ffense.

HolyCow

01-04-2007, 08:30 PM

Rick Majerus is an idiot. Approximately 75% of my turds are smarter than him. How does he have a job with ESPN.
I get so annoyed listening to him talk. Due to his ridiculous out-of-shapeness he has to take multiple breaths in between words in order to finish a sentence.

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 08:31 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eqJ_8lUsYs0

Rick, I for one, think you are a big gay guy.

UNC41

01-04-2007, 08:33 PM

The most absurd thing I've heard in a while was last week when he said the MVC is the best conference in college basketball.

41ravens

01-04-2007, 10:08 PM

taking an 11-game win streak against washington. hopefully we can keep it up.

unccrombie

01-04-2007, 10:10 PM

Rick Majerus is an idiot. Approximately 75% of my turds are smarter than him. How does he have a job with ESPN.
with 11+ min left he called the su game over :lol

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 10:10 PM

The Heels are coming to Tucson in February.

It should be a good one. :thumbsup

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 10:11 PM

with 11+ min left he called the su game over :lol

"And a little revenge for Pitt as they didnt play Syracuse last year."

"Oh, well they did play three times."

What a fucking douche....

unccrombie

01-04-2007, 10:14 PM

"And a little revenge for Pitt as they didnt play Syracuse last year."

"Oh, well they did play three times."

What a fucking douche....
:lol "trying to lessen the sting from last year's big east championship loss" i hate when announcers do that. espcially carolina's rematch vs illi after they beat them in the national title game. 2 totally different teams :haha

UNC41

01-04-2007, 10:19 PM

So we can all agree Rick Majerus blows.

I'm excited to watch Arizona play. I haven't seen them since the Illinois game. Unfortunately since Washington blows these days, it shouldn't be too big of a challenge.

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 10:23 PM

I really hate that guy.

And he beat the Heels in the 98 Final Four. Like Utah was going to win the National Championship. Bastards.

That was argueably the best team to never win a title.

UNC41

01-04-2007, 10:33 PM

I really hate that guy.

And he beat the Heels in the 98 Final Four. Like Utah was going to win the National Championship. Bastards.

That was argueably the best team to never win a title.

I think UNLV in 1991 gets that nod, at least for teams I've seen play in my life. I also think the 1994 Tar Heel was better than 1998. Other teams that might be better are Kansas in 1997 and Duke in 1999.

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 10:39 PM

Brian Bersticker
Michael Brooker
Vince Carter
Ed Cota
Brendan Haywood
Antawn Jamison F
Orlando Melendez
Makhtar Ndiaye
Terrence Newby
Ademola Okulaja
Max Owens
Shammond Williams

UNC41

01-04-2007, 10:49 PM

That's impressive, but I still don't agree, even if we are just talking Tar Heel basketball. The 1994 Tar Heel team lost just two of its top seven players from the national championship team in 1993 and added Stackhouse, Wallace and McInnis. Also, Calabria just started getting solid minutes in 1994.

budgrove

01-04-2007, 11:22 PM

calabria was one of my favorite all time tar heels!!! i loved the way he played!!!

SoRight24

01-04-2007, 11:34 PM

Damn, how we didn't win it all with Jamison playing next to Vince is beyond me.

And Calabria was one of my faves as well. As well as George Lynch.

justinandimcool

01-04-2007, 11:36 PM

USC upsets another ranked team. :multi

unccrombie

01-05-2007, 12:13 AM

USC upsets another ranked team. :multi
caught the end on espn, nice win

SoRight24

01-05-2007, 12:31 AM

Yeah, Oregon better turn it around quick.

They get UCLA on Saturday.

UNC41

01-05-2007, 01:26 AM

Hot diggity damn can Arizona ever fill the basket up.

UNC41

01-05-2007, 01:56 AM

This made me happy ...

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2m47ybs

unccrombie

01-05-2007, 02:38 AM

This made me happy ...

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2m47ybs
that was game 2, right? we blew game 1 from what i choose to remember :lol

seekupig

01-05-2007, 03:00 AM

Other teams that might be better are Kansas in 1997

G- Jacque Vaughn
G- Jarod Hasse
F- Paul Pierce
F- Raef LaFrentz
C- Scott Pollard

this team was 34-1 (their only loss coming in 2OT @ Mizzou) when they were upset by a very hot Arizona team in the Sweet 16 that went on to win the National Title. i'd agree with the '91 UNLV team being better, but that's about it.

bubba40

01-05-2007, 05:02 AM

Two undefeated teams left, UCLA and Clemson.

seekupig

01-05-2007, 10:16 AM

Two undefeated teams left, UCLA and Clemson.

with conference play getting underway, Clemson should fall from that short list fairly quickly...

UCLA on the other hand looks like a team that could possibly run the table. sure they have a few possible roadblocks and they'll probably lose sooner or later, but they remind me a bit of Illinois a few years back for some reason....

SoRight24

01-05-2007, 11:11 AM

This made me happy ...

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2m47ybs

Marvin!

UNC41

01-05-2007, 01:04 PM

with conference play getting underway, Clemson should fall from that short list fairly quickly...

UCLA on the other hand looks like a team that could possibly run the table. sure they have a few possible roadblocks and they'll probably lose sooner or later, but they remind me a bit of Illinois a few years back for some reason....

A team waiting to get devoured by North Carolina in the national championship game? I like how you think.

Honestly, I think the Pac-10 is far to deep for UCLA to run the table.

SoRight24

01-05-2007, 02:42 PM

Arizona will beat UCLA.

SteelerMan

01-06-2007, 03:11 PM

Whoa... why in the world did they take 5 seconds off the clock at the end of regulation in the Duke-Va Tech game? I see no possible way that that was correct.

SteelerMan

01-06-2007, 03:27 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Washington just made Paulus his bitch. First he clears him, then he blocks his shot at the end of OT. Great game.

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 03:36 PM

Whoa... why in the world did they take 5 seconds off the clock at the end of regulation in the Duke-Va Tech game? I see no possible way that that was correct.
count the mississippi's after the inbound, correct

UNC41

01-06-2007, 03:46 PM

Paulus is horrible. I wonder is there is a worse PG in the ACC. He's got a decent shot, but the guy is turnover prone, unathletic and simply not very good at running a team.

DMBfan41

01-06-2007, 03:57 PM

your killing me Dukies. I didn't watch the game, glad I didn't. But from what I heard, Paulus got blocked on the last shot of the game?

Lose the first game in conference play, that's a real positive sign

UNC41

01-06-2007, 03:57 PM

It's nice that I'm able to watch this UCLA/Oregon game. Wait a minute, they are showing Minnesota high school basketball. Dur ...

SoRight24

01-06-2007, 03:58 PM

Good job Hokies!!

Hahaha.

DMBfan41

01-06-2007, 03:59 PM

but hey what makes me happy, theres like 30 games on DirecTV today, and I don't even have the ESPN package. I am happy

HolyCow

01-06-2007, 04:37 PM

watching OU right now is painful.

SoRight24

01-06-2007, 04:37 PM

Shouldn't have hired a Dookie to run the program. ;)

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 05:01 PM

Paulus is horrible. I wonder is there is a worse PG in the ACC. He's got a decent shot, but the guy is turnover prone, unathletic and simply not very good at running a team.
had a bad game, and your crucifying the guy?

HolyCow

01-06-2007, 05:03 PM

Shouldn't have hired a Dookie to run the program. ;)

I trust Capel... I think he will be good but man, he has bad players now. There are only two players on the team with any upside right now... Bobby Maze and Tony Crocker.

Everyone is just there filling space for now. Top 15 recruiting class coming in... I have faith.

HolyCow

01-06-2007, 05:04 PM

had a bad game, and your crucifying the guy?
It hasn't just been this game... he has been bad for a while now.

Should have went to Cuse and played football.

DMBfan41

01-06-2007, 05:07 PM

UCLA down by 2 with 12.3 to go.

Could this be the end?

justinandimcool

01-06-2007, 05:08 PM

UCLA goes down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :multi :multi :multi

DMBfan41

01-06-2007, 05:11 PM

terrible play at the end. you take it to the hoop, you don't pass it out.

Ascf33

01-06-2007, 05:11 PM

The Duke game was insane.

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 05:17 PM

The Duke game was insane.
odu/mason on fsn was better ;)

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 05:18 PM

UCLA goes down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :multi :multi :multi
only a matter of time with them really, they were gettin exposed in previous games

bubba40

01-06-2007, 05:18 PM

We played damn well today, should be on the cusp of getting back into the Top 25.

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 05:19 PM

It hasn't just been this game... he has been bad for a while now.

Should have went to Cuse and played football.
should have went to ND for QB, since quinn is leaving :rolleyes . however, compared to last year he's down, he's also working with less talent and forced to do things he isn't suited for. granted his TOs are up, but expected with more responsibility

Ascf33

01-06-2007, 05:28 PM

odu/mason on fsn was better ;)

We don't get fsn here. :(

I'm pumped for the UConn game tongiht tho. :bounce

DMBfan41

01-06-2007, 05:43 PM

What happened with that ODU/Mason game.

Sportsline still has it as 25-20 in the first quarter

justinandimcool

01-06-2007, 05:47 PM

ESPN says Dominion won 65-63

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?confId=50

SoRight24

01-06-2007, 05:49 PM

If we beat FSU tommorow, the no 1 spot is waiting for us.

Seems like we've been there before? ;)

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 05:54 PM

What happened with that ODU/Mason game.

Sportsline still has it as 25-20 in the first quarter
last 5 min was insane, only highlights do it justice

UNC41

01-06-2007, 05:57 PM

had a bad game, and your crucifying the guy?

He's a point guard who was averaging just 3.6 assists per game and has an assist/turnover ratio of 1.2. That was before his 6 turnover, 1 assist game today. Sure he has been shooting right, but he's been horrid at running the team this year. There are three PGs on Carolina's roster I'd rather have over Paulus.

DMBfan41

01-06-2007, 05:57 PM

god damn sportsline! I didn't turn on the game because it said it was still the first quarter.....i didn't notice it was the first quarter for the past hour

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 05:57 PM

He's a point guard who was averaging just 3.6 assists per game and has an assist/turnover ratio of 1.2. That was before his 6 turnover, 1 assist game today. Sure he has been shooting right, but he's been horrid at running the team this year. There are three PGs on Carolina's roster I'd rather have over Paulus.
see my other post

UNC41

01-06-2007, 05:59 PM

should have went to ND for QB, since quinn is leaving :rolleyes . however, compared to last year he's down, he's also working with less talent and forced to do things he isn't suited for. granted his TOs are up, but expected with more responsibility

Maybe you're right. I mean, the guy only has 5 McDonalds All-Americans around him.

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 06:26 PM

Maybe you're right. I mean, the guy only has 5 McDonalds All-Americans around him.
mostly freshman. only real expierence is nelson and mcroberts. lets be serious here last year's team all paulus had to do was run the pt and distribute. easy as pie. they were real good. this year. you ask him to work with 2 starting freshies, a center who isnt realy a center, and nelson who is a good 2/3 guard. you expect paulus to scores double digits and dish out at least 5-7 a game. if you think about it it's basically his freshman year running the show. he's never been a true scorer, even in high school

UNC41

01-06-2007, 06:47 PM

mostly freshman. only real expierence is nelson and mcroberts. lets be serious here last year's team all paulus had to do was run the pt and distribute. easy as pie. they were real good. this year. you ask him to work with 2 starting freshies, a center who isnt realy a center, and nelson who is a good 2/3 guard. you expect paulus to scores double digits and dish out at least 5-7 a game. if you think about it it's basically his freshman year running the show. he's never been a true scorer, even in high school

Basically his freshman year running the show? The guy led the ACC in assists last year. He played more than 30 minutes a game last year. That comment is completely wrong. What Paulus has shown this year is that he needs to first team All-Americans around him to make him look like a competent point guard. I know Paulus is your boy because he's from Syracuse, but this year he has looked like a below major conference PG this year. There are a number of teams in the ACC with far worse talent who are getting much better play out of point guards.

As for his scoring, I actually think Paulus' outside shot has been the one impressive part of his game this year.

Finally ... Nuts on his chin. Nuts on his chin. Greg Paulus has some nuts on his chin.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/51/full.getty-72924682sl001_virginia_tech_1_14_53_pm.jpg

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 07:04 PM

Basically his freshman year running the show? The guy led the ACC in assists last year. He played more than 30 minutes a game last year. That comment is completely wrong. What Paulus has shown this year is that he needs to first team All-Americans around him to make him look like a competent point guard. I know Paulus is your boy because he's from Syracuse, but this year he has looked like a below major conference PG this year. There are a number of teams in the ACC with far worse talent who are getting much better play out of point guards.

As for his scoring, I actually think Paulus' outside shot has been the one impressive part of his game this year.

Finally ... Nuts on his chin. Nuts on his chin. Greg Paulus has some nuts on his chin.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/51/full.getty-72924682sl001_virginia_tech_1_14_53_pm.jpg
yeah, that dunk was sick :lol

anywho, he does need people around him to make him look good. he's never been a "star". he doesnt have that good mid range. he was the outside shot, which you pointed out is better this year. 45% vs like 30% or somethin last? and he has that occasional weave for a layup. he needs to develop more as an offensive threat this year, and i think when he does you'll see his ratio up due to the fact that people really dont need to go 1 demensional on him. prove consistancy is all im saying

UNC41

01-06-2007, 07:17 PM

yeah, that dunk was sick :lol

anywho, he does need people around him to make him look good. he's never been a "star". he doesnt have that good mid range. he was the outside shot, which you pointed out is better this year. 45% vs like 30% or somethin last? and he has that occasional weave for a layup. he needs to develop more as an offensive threat this year, and i think when he does you'll see his ratio up due to the fact that people really dont need to go 1 demensional on him. prove consistancy is all im saying

I guess as the top PG prospect in his class I would think Paulus would make the players around him better, not need good ones around him to look good. If he doesn't start to play better this year I could see K giving Schyer minutes at the point and then letting Nolan Smith start as freshman next year.

I still have no idea how Coach K convinced him to come play at Duke when he could have gone anywhere in the nation to play QB. It might not be a bad idea to see if he still has football options open.

unccrombie

01-06-2007, 09:35 PM

I guess as the top PG prospect in his class I would think Paulus would make the players around him better, not need good ones around him to look good. If he doesn't start to play better this year I could see K giving Schyer minutes at the point and then letting Nolan Smith start as freshman next year.

I still have no idea how Coach K convinced him to come play at Duke when he could have gone anywhere in the nation to play QB. It might not be a bad idea to see if he still has football options open.
didnt take much convincing, his heart was set on bball, though his dad already purchased property up at ND thinking tha twas a lock :lol . schyer has a better shot IMO but he doesnt have the vision greg has (lacking it right now) but he got minutes today, and i didn't see anything too great either

41ravens

01-06-2007, 10:23 PM

thanks oregon!

UNLTrpt

01-07-2007, 01:14 AM

good good win for nebraska tonight 82-71 over western kentucky.

11-3 in the non-con.

L @ Oregon (who just took down UCLA)
L @ Hawaii
2 pt L @ Rutgers

I'm very encouraged by the way Doc Sadler has these guys playing. we could make some noise in the Big 12

SoRight24

01-07-2007, 01:21 AM

You shouldn't have any problems beating Kansas.

Just tell the Huskers to sit back and watch Bill Self lose the game.

:lol :lol

UNLTrpt

01-07-2007, 02:14 AM

You shouldn't have any problems beating Kansas.

Just tell the Huskers to sit back and watch Bill Self lose the game.

:lol :lol

:lol

we always have a problem with KU. we play them pretty well at home but like everyone else have trouble in Allen Fieidhouse.

I am in no way saying that Neb is going to win the Big 12 or go to the big dance. I'm just thinking we're playing some good ball under a new coach.

RJ2kWJ

01-07-2007, 01:59 PM

Paulus is horrible. I wonder is there is a worse PG in the ACC. He's got a decent shot, but the guy is turnover prone, unathletic and simply not very good at running a team.

I want him on the bench for good right now... Complete 180 from last year.

SoRight24

01-07-2007, 10:05 PM

Good win for the Heels tonight.

Tyler with 25 points, impressive.

We should be the #1 team in the country by tommorow night. :)

unccrombie

01-08-2007, 12:14 AM

good wins for SU and indiana tonight. impressive

UNC41

01-08-2007, 02:25 AM

good wins for SU and indiana tonight. impressive

Give some props to your avatar too. They blew out a pretty solid FSU team.

unccrombie

01-08-2007, 09:50 AM

Give some props to your avatar too. They blew out a pretty solid FSU team.
expected at home ;) su had been playing like hell and state just got blown out by iowa on the road and then has a repeat performance? izzo cant be happy

snow1868

01-08-2007, 11:53 AM

Here's a solution to our depth problem. Adarius Bowman is lacing up his kicks for some basketball.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2723764

UNC41

01-08-2007, 12:08 PM

Here's a solution to our depth problem. Adarius Bowman is lacing up his kicks for some basketball.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2723764

I love when football players do this. It brings back memories of J-Pep for me.

SoRight24

01-08-2007, 12:33 PM

Adarius is supposed to be at UNC.

I doubt we would have room on our Bball team for him though.

Hopefully he does well.

seekupig

01-08-2007, 11:26 PM

You shouldn't have any problems beating Kansas.

Just tell the Huskers to sit back and watch Bill Self lose the game.

:lol :lol

:lol :thumbsdow

UNC41

01-09-2007, 01:51 PM

Polls by 5:00 pm central today.

snow1868

01-09-2007, 02:54 PM

Who's ready for the big game tommorow night? I know I am. Here's to another Sutton son winning at Kansas.

UNC41

01-09-2007, 03:08 PM

Who's ready for the big game tommorow night? I know I am. Here's to another Sutton son winning at Kansas.

One night at a time. Wisconsin and tOSU first. If you're still on, PM me a poll.

snow1868

01-09-2007, 03:14 PM

Okay, one day at a time. I'm just ready for Wednesday.

seekupig

01-09-2007, 03:32 PM

Okay, one day at a time. I'm just ready for Wednesday.

be careful what you ask for.... :D

snow1868

01-09-2007, 03:51 PM

be careful what you ask for.... :D

I wouldn't get too cocky. I expect that this game will play like the last one at Allen, except with the Pokes winning. :D

UNC41

01-09-2007, 07:31 PM

Week 10 Ants Poll

1. UNC (4)
2. Florida
3. Wisconsin
4. UCLA
5. Ohio St.
6. Kansas
7. Texas A&M
8. Pitt
9. Arizona
10. Oklahoma St.
11. Butler
12. Oregon
13.(tie) Duke
LSU
Clemson
16. Alabama
17. Tennessee
18. Air Force
19. Nevada
20. Memphis
21. West Virginia
22. UConn
23. Washington St.
24. Texas
25. Maryland

Others Receiving Votes: Notre Dame, Georgetown, Washington

Participating Voters: UNC41, clayj41, seekupig, snow1868

seekupig

01-09-2007, 11:14 PM

nothing important to say here, just wanted my 6,000th post to come in my favorite thread.....

clayj41

01-09-2007, 11:15 PM

nothing important to say here, just wanted my 6,000th post to come in my favorite thread.....

Congrats!

chiznaz

01-10-2007, 12:49 AM

twice in a row im liking the ants top 10. I thought I could send my poll in tonight and it was going up tomorrow for some reason. I ave got to keep track of the weekdays :lol

seekupig

01-10-2007, 12:50 AM

twice in a row im liking the ants top 10. I thought I could send my poll in tonight and it was going up tomorrow for some reason. I ave got to keep track of the weekdays :lol

three Big XII teams in the top ten right now, not bad for a conference that's supposed to be down this year.... :thumbsup

chiznaz

01-10-2007, 12:57 AM

three Big XII teams in the top ten right now, not bad for a conference that's supposed to be down this year.... :thumbsup

Definitely:) . KU and A&M are playing the way they're expected to be playing for the most part. What's making the Big XII even stronger is the way OSU and t.u. are playing. I did not think OSU was going to be this good, and t.u.'s freshmen are playing real well right now.

There really isn't an easy game in Big XII play right now. We don't have the clear front runner of the conference to win it all like Florida in the SEC or UNC in the ACC, but we're well rounded and will have 1-2 teams go pretty deep in the tourny and possibly further.

seekupig

01-10-2007, 01:01 AM

Definitely:) . KU and A&M are playing the way they're expected to be playing for the most part. What's making the Big XII even stronger is the way OSU and t.u. are playing. I did not think OSU was going to be this good, and t.u.'s freshmen are playing real well right now.

There really isn't an easy game in Big XII play right now. We don't have the clear front runner of the conference to win it all like Florida in the SEC or UNC in the ACC, but we're well rounded and will have 1-2 teams go pretty deep in the tourny and possibly further.

i'd take KU as the frontrunner to win the conference right now, not because i think they're that much better, but because this year they get A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma St. in Lawrence after having played all three on the road last year.

chiznaz

01-10-2007, 01:22 AM

i'd take KU as the frontrunner to win the conference right now, not because i think they're that much better, but because this year they get A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma St. in Lawrence after having played all three on the road last year.

oh i agree KU as the frontrunner right now for the conference(although I know A&M is more than capable). I was refering to a clear 1 team from each conference to push for the national championship. Florida-SEC, UNC-ACC, UCLA-Pac 10. Don't get me wrong though. KU has just as good of a chance as anyone right now to win it all, but I just don't thnk they've seperated themselves like those teams have from the rest of the conference.

I would say KU and A&M are probably 1 step away from being one of those teams. I think another year of experience for KU's sophmores and KU will be like those three, and another high profile player and some experience and A&M can be like that.

unccrombie

01-10-2007, 10:10 AM

ohio state is turning into the ND football team

snow1868

01-10-2007, 11:53 AM

i'd take KU as the frontrunner to win the conference right now, not because i think they're that much better, but because this year they get A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma St. in Lawrence after having played all three on the road last year.

I'd love to say I'm confident, but I hate playing in Lawrence. I'm hoping Scott sent Sean his notes on how to beat a KU team in Lawrence. Here's to a great game tonight!

UNC41

01-10-2007, 12:26 PM

I'd love to say I'm confident, but I hate playing in Lawrence. I'm hoping Scott sent Sean his notes on how to beat a KU team in Lawrence. Here's to a great game tonight!

Kansas is more talented, deeper and playing at home. It's conference play and could go either way, but I'll take the Jayhawks.

snow1868

01-10-2007, 12:38 PM

Kansas is more talented, deeper and playing at home. It's conference play and could go either way, but I'll take the Jayhawks.

That is the only thing that bothers me. OSU is extremly talented and is playing very well dispite the depth issue. No Sutton coached Cowboy team has won in Lawrence, that is the only thing that I'm worried about.

chiznaz

01-10-2007, 05:01 PM

That is the only thing that bothers me. OSU is extremly talented and is playing very well dispite the depth issue. No Sutton coached Cowboy team has won in Lawrence, that is the only thing that I'm worried about.

hey just fyi....

I think ESPN is picking up the OSU@A&M game for there nationally televised game on the 20th. That's what I'm hearing on A&M message boards.

snow1868

01-10-2007, 05:06 PM

hey just fyi....

I think ESPN is picking up the OSU@A&M game for there nationally televised game on the 20th. That's what I'm hearing on A&M message boards.

So now it's going to be national? Awesome, I knew it was going to be on ESPN+ for regional action but this is much better. Thanks for the heads up.

snow1868

01-10-2007, 10:16 PM

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up Pokes and start gaurding Kaun. :BANG

UNLTrpt

01-10-2007, 10:20 PM

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up Pokes and start gaurding Kaun. :BANG

SHAKA!

seekupig

01-10-2007, 10:40 PM

I wouldn't get too cocky. I expect that this game will play like the last one at Allen, except with the Pokes winning. :D

to bad you only get 5 minutes to edit posts.... ;)

SmoothD41

01-10-2007, 11:02 PM

another loss for Duke. They just simply aren't that good this year

seekupig

01-10-2007, 11:06 PM

another loss for Duke. They just simply aren't that good this year

:thumbsup

their weak non conference schedule hid that for awhile, but now that they're in ACC play, they'll be exposed weekly.

i love it..... :lol

snow1868

01-11-2007, 12:07 AM

to bad you only get 5 minutes to edit posts.... ;)

No shit. We were completely outplayed tonight in every aspect. Nothing would fall for us and your defense was suffocating us all game. The good thing is that this game is early and they can learn from this. We'll be hit or miss in some conference games I think due to our depth, but we should still be in good position for the conference tourney and the dance. Great game Jayhawks, here's to seeing you in OKC for the rematch.

seekupig

01-11-2007, 12:11 AM

Kansas is more talented, deeper and playing at home. It's conference play and could go either way, but I'll take the Jayhawks.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

:multi :multi :multi

SoRight24

01-11-2007, 12:20 AM

Way to show up Ok State.

Kansas is freakishly athletic.

UNLTrpt

01-11-2007, 12:22 AM

Here I am saying keep an eye on Nebraska and they lay a pooper at Hilton.

way to go NU

seekupig

01-11-2007, 12:23 AM

Here I am saying keep an eye on Nebraska and they lay a pooper at Hilton.

way to go NU

second hardest place to play in the Big XII, i wouldn't read too much into a loss like that. NU has looked decent in the brief times that i've been able to see them.

chiznaz

01-11-2007, 12:24 AM

holy crap i just saw the KU-OSU score. wow.

How about the bottom half of the top 25 dropping like flies tonight:)

seekupig

01-11-2007, 12:25 AM

Way to show up Ok State.

Kansas is freakishly athletic.

not even Bill Self could fuck that game up.;)

SoRight24

01-11-2007, 12:28 AM

not even Bill Self could fuck that game up.;)

:lol :lol

And thats pretty fucking bad. ;)

I really like Arthur, even though I'm afraid the NBA will come calling after this year...

seekupig

01-11-2007, 12:32 AM

holy crap i just saw the KU-OSU score. wow.

Score - KU 87, OSU 57
FG% -KU 57.6%, OSU 32.1%
Steals - KU 17, OSU 2

solid game all the way around for my boys. OSU is going to have trouble with teams that are bigger and deeper than they are. KU was double teaming Bogan on defense and taking the ball right at him on offense. he got in foul trouble and their lack of a bench really hurt....

OSU has some potential though, this was just one of those nights when everything that could go wrong did.... and they caught KU on a hot night. it happens to every team at some point, the good ones learn from it.

seekupig

01-11-2007, 12:33 AM

:lol :lol

And thats pretty fucking bad. ;)

I really like Arthur, even though I'm afraid the NBA will come calling after this year...

it looks to be a pretty deep draft this year, hopefully he sticks around for one more year. this is a team with NO seniors on the entire roster... they'll be sick next year if people stick around.

SteelerMan

01-11-2007, 12:35 AM

:thumbsup

their weak non conference schedule hid that for awhile, but now that they're in ACC play, they'll be exposed weekly.

i love it..... :lol

:thumbsup

Not as much as I love it. Josh McBobs is getting exposed as the mediocre player he truly is.

UNLTrpt

01-11-2007, 12:37 AM

second hardest place to play in the Big XII, i wouldn't read too much into a loss like that. NU has looked decent in the brief times that i've been able to see them.

I know but...damn. if we want to be in that mid-big XII mix we have to win these games.

it doesn't get any easier with OSU and OU next.

HolyCow

01-11-2007, 12:43 AM

Dang. OSU got creamed. Didn't see that coming.

In other news, OU wins at home against Colorado. Yay.

UNC41

01-11-2007, 12:58 AM

Huge win for Kansas. I'm guessing they looked like one of the elite teams in the country tonight. Depth will really hurt OSU against very good and deep teams for the rest of the year.

UNC41

01-11-2007, 01:01 AM

:thumbsup

Not as much as I love it. Josh McBobs is getting exposed as the mediocre player he truly is.

McTravel is a good player, just not a great player in the post. Duke does not have a good big man who can ball on the low block or solid point guard on its roster. That is what will kill them. I could see an 8-8 ACC finish.

unccrombie

01-11-2007, 01:03 AM

UNC41

01-11-2007, 01:08 AM

im smelling a 2-0 sweep, thats all i could care about :)

As mediocre as Duke has looked, I'm never going to assume that when it comes to UNC and Duke.

RJ2kWJ

01-11-2007, 01:46 AM

McTravel is a good player, just not a great player in the post. Duke does not have a good big man who can ball on the low block or solid point guard on its roster. That is what will kill them. I could see an 8-8 ACC finish.

That plus NO point guard... I am completely ashamed of Greg right now. Not only that... Can ANYONE ON THE TEAM HOLD ON TO THE FUGGIN BALL!?!?

Gonna be one of those seasons. :lol

UNC41

01-11-2007, 01:52 AM

That plus NO point guard... I am completely ashamed of Greg right now. Not only that... Can ANYONE ON THE TEAM HOLD ON TO THE FUGGIN BALL!?!?

Gonna be one of those seasons. :lol

Does Dawkins or Wojo take over when Coach K's back goes out?

clayj41

01-11-2007, 02:04 AM

Does Dawkins or Wojo take over when Coach K's back goes out?

:lol :lol :lol

seekupig

01-11-2007, 05:51 PM

had i known this, i wouldn't have been worried about last nights game....

Oklahoma State (15-2, 1-1) lost its 32nd straight road game against a top 10 team. The Cowboys have not won in a top 10 opponent's home gym since a 52-50 overtime victory against the Jayhawks -- ranked No. 2 at the time -- on Jan. 2, 1958.

and this pretty much sums up the game.....

The Cowboys shot 32 percent (17-for-53) and committed 20 turnovers, while Kansas had 17 steals, tied for the Jayhawks' second most in a conference game. Kansas scored 23 points off turnovers, outscored the Cowboys 18-0 on fast breaks and 48-18 in the paint.

HolyCow

01-11-2007, 05:53 PM

snow1868

01-11-2007, 06:32 PM

We laid quite a turd last night, but like I said earlier, it's still early in conference play. We will learn from this, plus it's not like we haven't been whipped by KU before. We've handed them some pretty big ass whippings as well. Bring on the Huskers!

seekupig

01-11-2007, 06:44 PM

We will learn from this, plus it's not like we haven't been whipped by KU before. We've handed them some pretty big ass whippings as well.

i don't think this series is as close as you'd like to believe.....

The Jayhawks have won 15 straight conference openers and are 9-1 at Allen Fieldhouse this season. They are 39-8 at the arena against Oklahoma State and 54-10 all-time in Lawrence against the Cowboys, who have lost 12 straight on the road in the series. Oklahoma State (15-1, 1-0), though, has already beaten two ranked teams and is off to its best start since 2001-02, when it also started 15-1. That team lost to Kansas after reaching that mark and the Cowboys have lost six of their last eight to the Jayhawks, including two matchups last season.

RJ2kWJ

01-11-2007, 06:47 PM

Does Dawkins or Wojo take over when Coach K's back goes out?

No idea... Sucky situation.

Im glad its something to laugh about though at the same time.

SatelliteEyes

01-11-2007, 06:48 PM

Ahh. Finally, Wisconsin Badgers on top of a College Basketball poll.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/luke_winn/01/11/power.rankings/index.html?cnn=yes

A wonderful sight.

snow1868

01-11-2007, 07:15 PM

i don't think this series is as close as you'd like to believe.....

The Jayhawks have won 15 straight conference openers and are 9-1 at Allen Fieldhouse this season. They are 39-8 at the arena against Oklahoma State and 54-10 all-time in Lawrence against the Cowboys, who have lost 12 straight on the road in the series. Oklahoma State (15-1, 1-0), though, has already beaten two ranked teams and is off to its best start since 2001-02, when it also started 15-1. That team lost to Kansas after reaching that mark and the Cowboys have lost six of their last eight to the Jayhawks, including two matchups last season.

I never said the series was close, I simply said we've whipped up on the Jayhawks by big margins as well. You won the game big last night, I've already conceded that. I hope to see KU again in OKC.

And you really think that Hilton is harder to play than GIA? I'd say hardest places to play in the Big 12 are:

Allen Fieldhouse
GIA
Mizzou Arena
Erwin Center

Just my $.02. Good luck the rest of the season.

41ravens

01-11-2007, 08:30 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=ap-big12vspac10&prov=ap&type=lgns

why would they leave kansas out of the first one? i don't get it. this could bring some awesome matchups, though.

HolyCow

01-11-2007, 08:33 PM

You won the game big last night, I've already conceded that.

Yeah, I don't really see how you could argue with 87-57...

UNLTrpt

01-12-2007, 12:26 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=ap-big12vspac10&prov=ap&type=lgns

why would they leave kansas out of the first one? i don't get it. this could bring some awesome matchups, though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2727984

they're playing Arizona it's just not in the challenge window.

Thurs., Nov. 29, 2007
Oregon at Kansas State
Oklahoma at USC

Fri., Nov. 30, 2007
Washington State at Baylor
Iowa State at Oregon State

Sat., Dec. 1, 2007
Washington at Oklahoma State
Missouri at California

Sun., Dec. 2, 2007
Arizona State at Nebraska
Stanford at Colorado
Texas at UCLA
Texas A&M at Arizona

Outside the 10-game series window:
Arizona at Kansas (Sun., Nov. 25)
Stanford vs. Texas Tech (Sat., Dec. 22)

seekupig

01-12-2007, 01:37 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2727984

they're playing Arizona it's just not in the challenge window.

Thurs., Nov. 29, 2007
Oregon at Kansas State
Oklahoma at USC

Fri., Nov. 30, 2007
Washington State at Baylor
Iowa State at Oregon State

Sat., Dec. 1, 2007
Washington at Oklahoma State
Missouri at California

Sun., Dec. 2, 2007
Arizona State at Nebraska
Stanford at Colorado
Texas at UCLA
Texas A&M at Arizona

Outside the 10-game series window:
Arizona at Kansas (Sun., Nov. 25)
Stanford vs. Texas Tech (Sat., Dec. 22)

that's bullshit if you ask me (not that you did... :) ). could you imagine the uproar if UNC or Duke were left out of the Big 10/ ACC Challenge and the ACC lost by one game? if you have to leave two teams out of the Big XII to make it even, it's not KU and Texas Tech (Bobby Knight), it's teams like Baylor and Colorado. i really don't get it.....

unless it's a 12 game challenge and Arizona and Stanford get to represent their conference twice....

UNLTrpt

01-12-2007, 02:08 AM

that's bullshit if you ask me (not that you did... :) ). could you imagine the uproar if UNC or Duke were left out of the Big 10/ ACC Challenge and the ACC lost by one game? if you have to leave two teams out of the Big XII to make it even, it's not KU and Texas Tech (Bobby Knight), it's teams like Baylor and Colorado. i really don't get it.....

unless it's a 12 game challenge and Arizona and Stanford get to represent their conference twice....

oh I totally agree. there has to be SOME reason they kept KU and and TTech out of the first one. scheduling probably being #1.

FWIW, Kansas is saying that their game with Arizona is part of the Pac 10/Big 12 challenge in their press release.

and maybe they're saying its a 12 game challenge.

41ravens

01-12-2007, 11:10 AM

i'll go with a 12-game challenge. playing a&m and kansas a week apart should be quite the early test next season.

chiznaz

01-12-2007, 06:36 PM

Front page of ESPN Mens Basketball has an awesome write up about A&M's team. It's dead on too.

Funny how A&M can make the front page of ESPN, yet we can't with the Houston Chronicle.:BANG

seekupig

01-13-2007, 04:24 AM

Front page of ESPN Mens Basketball has an awesome write up about A&M's team. It's dead on too.

i read it, but i missed the part about A&M being 0-2 vs. the top 25. winning games is great, but until you beat someone that's worth a damn, it doesn't really matter. i don't doubt for a minute that A&M is a team not to be taken lightly, but i would love to see them step up and beat a team that they shouldn't before they're annointed the next coming of KU in the Big XII....:)

chiznaz

01-13-2007, 04:57 AM

i read it, but i missed the part about A&M being 0-2 vs. the top 25. winning games is great, but until you beat someone that's worth a damn, it doesn't really matter. i don't doubt for a minute that A&M is a team not to be taken lightly, but i would love to see them step up and beat a team that they shouldn't before they're annointed the next coming of KU in the Big XII....:)

Well then I guess KU is the only team left that we "shouldn't" beat. And if you're going to judge A&M by how they play @UCLA, @LSU, and @KU, then that's just crazy. Watching a team(and I'm not saying you haven't:) ) will tell you a whole lot more about them than just reading what the line for the game is and what the box score says. Just by looking at KU's box scores, you wouldn't see how athletic they really are, and how they can run you off the court.

HolyCow

01-13-2007, 02:18 PM

OU at Texas today.

Shouldn't be a good gauge as to where we are.

And how about Longar getting suspended to his elbow in the Tech game? A load of crap. The Big XII let Bobby Knight complain long enough and finally gave into him. Weak.

DMBfan41

01-13-2007, 04:26 PM

snow1868

01-13-2007, 05:05 PM

Looks like they cancelled the OSU-NU game today. This ice storm prevented the Pokes from getting out of OKC. I'm fine with that though, I really can't handle another incident like January 27, 2001.

justinandimcool

01-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Unbelievable. I won on the spread. But I feel sick to my stomach. A 4 point play to take the lead, then Afflalo comes and burns us. :( :lorraine

DMBfan41

01-13-2007, 05:44 PM

That USC-UCLA game was wild!

22 seconds left, too much to give to UCLA

UNLTrpt

01-13-2007, 06:25 PM

Looks like they cancelled the OSU-NU game today. This ice storm prevented the Pokes from getting out of OKC. I'm fine with that though, I really can't handle another incident like January 27, 2001.

yeah. we don't want anything like that happening again.

justinandimcool

01-13-2007, 06:30 PM

Jesus I didn't even realize UNC is getting whooped.

UNLTrpt

01-13-2007, 06:37 PM

Jesus I didn't even realize UNC is getting whooped.

damn they are.

DMBfan41

01-13-2007, 06:59 PM

Say Goodbye to #1, UNC!

HolyCow

01-13-2007, 07:20 PM

So, Ohio State beat Tennessee. I don't know if its gonna be made a big deal or not, but Ohio State at the end stepped out of bounds before he could get rid of the ball. Tennessee should've had the ball with about a second on the clock.
I was saying the same thing. Plus, it was a two, not a three that Ohio St. hit.

Might have been a very different outcome had the proper calls been made.

OU got whipped every way possible against UT. Played hard for 40 minutes straight though, just totally outmanned. Kevin Durant is a freak. He. Is. Awesome.

And nice work UNC on laying a huge egg.

unccrombie

01-13-2007, 07:21 PM

Say Goodbye to #1, UNC!
talk about a beat down, damn

willthethrill

01-13-2007, 07:27 PM

talk about a beat down, damn
Really it was VT's best performance of the season, not really missing anything all afternoon, and UNC's worst performance of the season with terrible free throw shooting and no offensive cohesion, until the last 10 minutes which might've been the best performance of the season.

This game is exactly the reason I hate being #1. VT would've still come out with fire, but I'd much rather be #s 2-5.

(will somebody please shoot Steve Lavin, the guy is a complete fuck-up at broadcasting)

RJ2kWJ

01-13-2007, 08:50 PM

And to think all the Tar Heels on here were talkin shit about the Devils losing to VA TRASH.

P.S.- The only time I EVER root for UNC... is if they are playing VT.

unccrombie

01-13-2007, 09:16 PM

And to think all the Tar Heels on here were talkin shit about the Devils losing to VA TRASH.

P.S.- The only time I EVER root for UNC... is if they are playing VT.
well you lost at home, but we did get our ass handed to us. so 6 of 1 half dozen of the other. theyre a good team though. should be a nie spoiler once march comes

RJ2kWJ

01-13-2007, 10:10 PM

well you lost at home, but we did get our ass handed to us. so 6 of 1 half dozen of the other. theyre a good team though. should be a nie spoiler once march comes

God damn it I wanted you all to crush them so bad.

unccrombie

01-13-2007, 10:13 PM

God damn it I wanted you all to crush them so bad.
you can get them in the tourney, its ok

RJ2kWJ

01-13-2007, 10:18 PM

you can get them in the tourney, its ok

haha hopefully. I was around a few of my UNC buddies during the game... and just telling them its the only time I ever root for UNC is against them. I have a hatred for that school I cant explain. Ah well. UNC is still the best squad in the ACC right now.

Looking forward to the UNC/Duke battles this year even though we are the EXTREME underdog.

unccrombie

01-13-2007, 10:21 PM

haha hopefully. I was around a few of my UNC buddies during the game... and just telling them its the only time I ever root for UNC is against them. I have a hatred for that school I cant explain. Ah well. UNC is still the best squad in the ACC right now.

Looking forward to the UNC/Duke battles this year even though we are the EXTREME underdog.
i find myself rooting for the dukies more now because of greg. i've lost the general hatred, but im sure thatll return once he graduates

RJ2kWJ

01-14-2007, 09:41 PM

Maybe that Duke team will keep showing up.

"Duke missed only 13 of 41 shots, and Scheyer was especially efficient. He went 5-for-8 from the field, including 4-for-6 on 3-pointers, and made all 11 free-throw attempts."

Especially against UNC.

SoRight24

01-15-2007, 12:43 AM

i find myself rooting for the dukies more now because of greg. i've lost the general hatred, but im sure thatll return once he graduates

I think you should be banned as a UNC fan for the next 2 years. ;)

unccrombie

01-15-2007, 02:10 AM

I think you should be banned as a UNC fan for the next 2 years. ;)
:lol GP was a good friend in high school, i cant help it :(

HolyCow

01-15-2007, 02:39 AM

seekupig

01-15-2007, 10:31 AM

Someone help me!!!

I have been searching for about an hour now and can't find anything. I wanted to find out what programs have the most basketball wins since 2000. I always see ESPN flash that little list, but I need it for a story I am writing but I can't find it anywhere.

I know it looks something like Duke, Gonzaga, Oklahoma...

Any info would be much appreciated.

this is all i could find. it's from 2000-2005, so you'll have to look up last season and figure it in. also, they're ranked by win. %, so if you're looking at wins only, you'll have to move teams around a bit...

http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/basketball/m_basketball_records_book/2007/2007_m_basketball_records.pdf

EDIT - page 54

SatelliteEyes

01-15-2007, 12:49 PM

Who is the new #1? I was pissed watching the UNC/VT game because the announcers were talking about UCLA and Florida and were acting like Wisconsin didnt even exist.

Wisconsin's wins include wins over #2 Pitt, #5 OSU, #12 Marquette, Georgia, Auburn and Florida State. Meanwhile Florida has two losses and UCLA has lost recently.

Knowing the lack of respect Wisconsin usually gets I am sure UNC will still be ranked ahead of them when the rankings come out.

unccrombie

01-15-2007, 12:57 PM

SoRight24

01-15-2007, 01:07 PM

Wisconsin has my respect, and I'm a UNC fan.

I think we need to be at #4 or 5 this week.

SatelliteEyes

01-15-2007, 03:01 PM

Wisconsin up to #3 behind #1 Florida and #2 UCLA. At least we picked up some #1 votes.

SatelliteEyes

01-15-2007, 03:15 PM

...and the AP rankings are out. Wisconsin up to #2 with 23 first place votes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings?poll=1

Still hard to get past the fact that 2 loss Florida is ahead of Wisconsin, especially since one of Florida's losses was to FSU and Wisconsin throttled FSU.

Taking a look at who Florida has beaten and I see just one ranked team, Ohio State, who Wisconsin also beat. The rest of their wins are against some pretty poor teams and the SEC isn't a very deep conference this year. Playing the likes of Miss. St. Vandy, S. Carolina, etc. should make for a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way. Granted, the Big Ten is has only two really good teams as well but Wisconsin is more battle tested at this point.

SteelerMan

01-15-2007, 03:40 PM

Wisconsin has my respect, and I'm a UNC fan.

:thumbsup

Same here. I knew they'd be good, but they're better than I expected.

mizzoudmbfan

01-15-2007, 04:03 PM

Going to my first Missouri kansas game at AFH this evening. Last I heard we were 15 point underdogs.:shrug

willthethrill

01-15-2007, 04:06 PM

I think the rankings look about right. Florida isn't a consensus #1 as they shouldn't be. Still pretty early to figure out how conferences are going to play out.

SteelerMan

01-15-2007, 04:10 PM

I think the rankings look about right. Florida isn't a consensus #1 as they shouldn't be. Still pretty early to figure out how conferences are going to play out.

Well, there's no excuse for UNC not winning the ACC. That should be a given. That's not a knock on the rest of the teams in the ACC either. Given their talent level, I just see anything short of the ACC championship as a failure.

willthethrill

01-15-2007, 07:03 PM

Well, there's no excuse for UNC not winning the ACC. That should be a given. That's not a knock on the rest of the teams in the ACC either. Given their talent level, I just see anything short of the ACC championship as a failure.
Oh yea, totally agree. I think anything less than 14-2 is pretty inexcusable. Especially considering we missed winning the regular season by 1 game LAST year with, I think, a 13-3 conference record.

seekupig

01-16-2007, 12:17 AM

another classic KU/Mizzou game. Mizzou is going to get better and better every game with Mike Anderson as their coach and will be a team that no one will want to face if they can put it together in time to make the tournament.

UNC41

01-16-2007, 01:13 PM

Sounds like the UNC game was ugly on Saturday. I was in the middle of 17 inches of powder on the slopes, so I didn't get to catch it.

As for the polls, I have one major problem with them. I'll comment on that after the Ants poll is released today. Send me your PMs.

UNC41

01-16-2007, 08:05 PM

Week 11 Ants Poll

1. Florida (2)
2. Wisconsin (1)
3. UCLA
4. UNC
5. Kansas
6. Pitt
7. Ohio St.
8. Texas A&M
9. Oregon
10. Alabama
11. Arizona
12. Air Force
13. Oklahoma St.
14. Nevada
15. Duke
16. LSU
17. Memphis
18. Clemson
19. Butler
20. Notre Dame
21. Virginia Tech
22. Tennessee
23. Texas
24. Maryland
25. Washington St.

Others Receiving Votes: Marquette, Kentucky

Participating Voters: UNC41, clayj41, RJ2kWJ

unccrombie

01-16-2007, 09:39 PM

SoRight24

01-16-2007, 09:45 PM

All we had to do is shoot better from the FT line.

And we win the game, plain and simple....

willthethrill

01-16-2007, 11:24 PM

All we had to do is shoot better from the FT line.

And we win the game, plain and simple....
Kinda appropriate that Brandan's 7 missed FTs would've won the game.

HolyCow

01-16-2007, 11:57 PM

OSU and Texas playing a great game.

willthethrill

01-17-2007, 12:02 AM

OSU and Texas playing a great game.
This game is incredible. Too bad ESPN can't get a better angle than the back of all the fans' heads.

seekupig

01-17-2007, 12:02 AM

wow. great game so far, OT coming.....

seekupig

01-17-2007, 12:04 AM

This game is incredible. Too bad ESPN can't get a better angle than the back of all the fans' heads.

that has nothing to do with ESPN, it's the size of the heads in Oklahoma.....

willthethrill

01-17-2007, 12:06 AM

that has nothing to do with ESPN, it's the size of the heads in Oklahoma.....
mmm...nicely played

seekupig

01-17-2007, 12:09 AM

mmm...nicely played

thank you. :)

i'll let you buy me a blue cup at "He's Not Here" next time i'm out in Chapel Hill.... :lol

UNC41

01-17-2007, 12:11 AM

This is a hell of a game in Stillwater.

willthethrill

01-17-2007, 12:13 AM

thank you. :)

i'll let you buy me a blue cup at "He's Not Here" next time i'm out in Chapel Hill.... :lol
Will do. Just meet me a year and 4 days from now. I turn 20 on Saturday.

seekupig

01-17-2007, 12:17 AM

This is a hell of a game in Stillwater.

:thumbsup

sorry about not getting my poll in, i was on vacation all last week and didn't realize what day it was until it was too late..... :BANG

willthethrill

01-17-2007, 12:18 AM

Holy crap this game just keeps getting better. Durant is dirt-y.

seekupig

01-17-2007, 12:19 AM

wow. 2OT.... great game.

UNC41

01-17-2007, 12:20 AM

:thumbsup

sorry about not getting my poll in, i was on vacation all last week and didn't realize what day it was until it was too late..... :BANG

No biggie. I just got back from vacation yesterday and would have forgot had I not gotten PMs this morning.

That last minute was insanity. And now Sutton "may have passed out." I heart college basketball.