Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released [Archive] - Page 60

Trippin4136

02-12-2007, 05:04 PM

dmb71687

02-12-2007, 05:15 PM

It was 26 to Florida.

And I'm not saying I agree with it, just giving you what I think their rationale is. Also, how that team has played that week, etc.

Frankly, why care so much about the ranking? Barring any shocking losses, whoever wins Feb 25. and the Big Ten Tourney will get the #1 seed.

As for the voting off "better losses", that shit goes on ALL the time in football polls, don't act so surprised.

I was never surprised, just stated I think it's stupid. And it happens in football because of the BCS, it's not suppose to necessarily be like that in the college polls.

And I would argue Ohio State might have to beat UW twice to take the #1 seed from them.

Trippin4136

02-12-2007, 05:17 PM

And I would argue Ohio State might have to beat UW twice to take the #1 seed from them.

You're probably right.

That is if, they meet in the Big Ten Tourney final. If Wisco, by some miracle (since the bottom 2/3 of the Big Ten is w-e-a-k) gets knocked out early, it'll be interesting.

There's a bunch of scenarios for us. First and foremost we have to beat Wisconsin on the 25th. Then if we both get knocked out early in the BTT, Wisconsin may not get the #1 seed anyway if another conference creeps up. But if we beat you the 25th and win the BTT, we could jump up and grab it even if we don't meet Wisconsin again.

SteelerMan

02-12-2007, 05:19 PM

Ohio St. should be ranked fourth. Georgetown should be ranked higher. Virginia should be ranked.

Didn't they get clobbered by Va Tech?

dmb71687

02-12-2007, 05:20 PM

You're probably right. That is if, they meet in the Big Ten Tourney final. If Wisco, by some miracle (since the bottom 2/3 of the Big Ten is w-e-a-k) gets knocked out early, it'll be interesting.

Agreed.

What a potential championship that would be, #1 seed riding on the winner....:monkey

Trippin4136

02-12-2007, 05:20 PM

First things first, February 25th

UNC41

02-12-2007, 05:22 PM

Didn't they get clobbered by Va Tech?

Yeah, I forgot to type Tech there and the post was before the AP Poll came out.

Trippin4136

02-12-2007, 05:22 PM

Didn't they get clobbered by Va Tech?

Yes they did. Boston College leads the ACC and they finally got bumped into the polls this week.

Jambi

02-12-2007, 05:57 PM

Yes they did. Boston College leads the ACC and they finally got bumped into the polls this week.

That should've happened a long time ago.

SteelerMan

02-12-2007, 06:23 PM

People are writing Duke off way too soon. And I hate Duke.

unccrombie

02-12-2007, 06:29 PM

People are writing Duke off way too soon. And I hate Duke.
the pollsters are, no one here is. once they find their groove i wouldnt want to be the team that plays them

SteelerMan

02-12-2007, 08:04 PM

the pollsters are, no one here is. once they find their groove i wouldnt want to be the team that plays them

Well, I had the media in mind actually. I don't think they deserved to be ranked, but I've seen articles popping up on nearly every sports news website discussing how Duke won't make the tournament. It's still way too early to even think about that yet.

willthethrill

02-12-2007, 08:14 PM

I think they're just hinting on the fact that it COULD happen. Nobody's counting them out yet.

unccrombie

02-12-2007, 09:39 PM

I think they're just hinting on the fact that it COULD happen. Nobody's counting them out yet.
correct

pitt looks to be going to down to louisville....big time

willthethrill

02-12-2007, 10:37 PM

Pitt got bitch slapped at home by Louisville! Wish I could've watched that. Georgetown is continuing their run against WV. Looks like we're headed toward an awesome March.

justinandimcool

02-12-2007, 11:45 PM

This game has been such a disappointment so far. Almost as much of a disappointment Oklahoma State has been lately. :(

GavMan33

02-12-2007, 11:48 PM

This game has been such a disappointment so far. Almost as much of a disappointment Oklahoma State has been lately. :(

So OK St. will fall to 5-5 in the Big XII after this loss? Any chance they are in any danger of bubble watching?

justinandimcool

02-13-2007, 12:02 AM

So OK St. will fall to 5-5 in the Big XII after this loss? Any chance they are in any danger of bubble watching?

Eh. They've beaten this same Texas team, as well as Pittsburgh. A bunch of double digit losses will definitely hurt. We'll see how they do against Texas A&M next week, with Texas Tech and Kansas State following that. If they can't put up a good showing, then we'll talk bubble. Right now I don't think they're out yet.

UNC41

02-13-2007, 12:04 AM

correct

pitt looks to be going to down to louisville....big time

Georgetown and Marquette, I'm not exactly sure in what order, are the two best teams in the Big East. I haven't been sold on Pitt all year.

So OK St. will fall to 5-5 in the Big XII after this loss? Any chance they are in any danger of bubble watching?

They should be fine for now and have a favorable conference schedule to close the season.

unccrombie

02-13-2007, 12:06 AM

Georgetown and Marquette, I'm not exactly sure in what order, are the two best teams in the Big East. I haven't been sold on Pitt all year.

They should be fine for now and have a favorable conference schedule to close the season.
agreed. on both points

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 12:18 AM

Texas rips OSU.

The no depth has officially caught up to the Cowboys.

seekupig

02-13-2007, 12:33 AM

The no depth has officially caught up to the Cowboys.

that and not being able to play anywhere outside of Stillwater....

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 12:37 AM

that and not being able to play anywhere outside of Stillwater....

:thumbsup

Anymore, they can just barely play there.

OSU - bubble team?

UNC41

02-13-2007, 12:40 AM

I forgot to put the poll up last week, but send them by 5:00 pm tomorrow. Traffic is fairly high in the thread right now, so hopefully we hit five pollsters.

justinandimcool

02-13-2007, 01:18 AM

:thumbsup

Anymore, they can just barely play there.

OSU - bubble team?

Not yet. Next week is a big week for them. Aggies, TTech, Kansas St. If they go 2-1 there, especially if they beat the Aggies, while winning the games they should against Nebraska and Missouri, I don't think it's even a question if they're in.

seekupig

02-13-2007, 01:31 AM

Not yet. Next week is a big week for them. Aggies, TTech, Kansas St. If they go 2-1 there, especially if they beat the Aggies, while winning the games they should against Nebraska and Missouri, I don't think it's even a question if they're in.

i think they're on the bubble. no road wins, and they're .500 in a pretty average conference. not many quality wins that show they belong either. they're an average team that needs to finish with a winning record in conference and win at least one game in the big twelve tourney to get in, in my opinion.

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 01:37 AM

i think they're on the bubble. no road wins, and they're .500 in a pretty average conference. not many quality wins that show they belong either. they're an average team that needs to finish with a winning record in conference and win at least one game in the big twelve tourney to get in, in my opinion.
I know it is total homerism, but I think OU should get in before them at this point.

seekupig

02-13-2007, 01:41 AM

I know it is total homerism, but I think OU should get in before them at this point.

i actually agree. i think OU is more deserving at this point. that being said, i think OSU is more capable of putting together a run and winning a couple of games in the tourney....

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 01:47 AM

i actually agree. i think OU is more deserving at this point. that being said, i think OSU is more capable of putting together a run and winning a couple of games in the tourney....
Oh definitely agree there. OU may squeek in as a 12 or something, just to get bounced early. But I think it will be quite an achievement for this Sooner team.

budgrove

02-13-2007, 01:47 AM

damn pitt...oh well. that sucked bad. they looked horrible! the better get their shit together

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 01:49 AM

Oh definitely agree there. OU may squeek in as a 12 or something, just to get bounced early. But I think it will be quite an achievement for this Sooner team.

Hollis Price=my favorite college player in the last 10 years not from UW.

Do you remember him? Or did you just become an OU fan when you started going to school there?

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 01:51 AM

Pittsburgh looks like a real good pick for one of my upsets in the 1st/2nd round come tourny time. This was my 4th time seeing them play, and they look NOTHING like the #5 team in the country.

budgrove

02-13-2007, 01:52 AM

Pittsburgh looks like a real good pick for one of my upsets in the 1st/2nd round come tourny time. This was my 4th time seeing them play, and they look NOTHING like the #5 team in the country.

definately not tonight

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 01:52 AM

Hollis Price=my favorite college player in the last 10 years not from UW.

Do you remember him? Or did you just become an OU fan when you started going to school there?
Are you kidding me?

Sooner born, Sooner bred,
When I die, I'll be Sooner dead.

I have been a Sooner since coming out of my mother's womb.

And of course I remember Hollis Price. Such a gritty player. Led us to that Final Four run with Ace McGhee. Great team that year... dadgum Indiana got us in the semi-finals.

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 01:55 AM

Are you kidding me?

Sooner born, Sooner bred,
When I die, I'll be Sooner dead.

I have been a Sooner since coming out of my mother's womb.

And of course I remember Hollis Price. Such a gritty player. Led us to that Final Four run with Ace McGhee. Great team that year... dadgum Indiana got us in the semi-finals.

:lol Good stuff.

Whatever happened to him? Did he even get drafted?

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 01:57 AM

definately not tonight

It seems really ironic considering they have IMO the best big man in the country, but I think their offense relys to much on hitting outside shots. And when they don't, they can have an EXTREMELY difficult time scoring. Gray seems like he can be easily taken out of games for periods of times for some reason. They just don't strike me as an elite team this year.

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 01:57 AM

:lol Good stuff.

Whatever happened to him? Did he even get drafted?

I believe he is over in Europe tearing it up. He should have gotten a chance to play in the League. :(

http://www.acb.com/jugador.php?id=BC1

I found that on him. I think he is averaging 12 a game... but I'm not real sure. :lol

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 02:02 AM

I believe he is over in Europe tearing it up. He should have gotten a chance to play in the League. :(

http://www.acb.com/jugador.php?id=BC1

I found that on him. I think he is averaging 12 a game... but I'm not real sure. :lol

Nice find!:lol :lol

UNLTrpt

02-13-2007, 03:50 AM

Sooner born, Sooner bred,
When I die, I'll be Sooner dead.

oh man I think I'm gonna hurl.

UNLTrpt

02-13-2007, 04:17 AM

I know it is total homerism, but I think OU should get in before them at this point.

i disagree. I'm still trying to figure out who OU has beat. OSU is the only ranked team on your schedule that you have beat. And you're saying OSU is on the decline.

OSU is 23rd in projected RPI rankings right now.
OU is 65th.

OSU has defeated 3 teams that were ranked at the time.

19-6.
1-2 vs. the top 25.
5-5 in their last 10.
SOS 40
7 wins over the top 100 RPI opponents
4 wins over top 50 RPI opponents

vs.

15-8.
1-4 vs. the top 25.
7-3 in their last 10.
SOS 45
3 wins over the top 100 RPI opponents
2 wins over top 50 RPI opponents

Looks to me like OSU is still ahead of OU, IMO.

But like I told you earlier royce, if OU wants to prove themselves, do it in the next couple of weeks and I'll become a believer.

unccrombie

02-13-2007, 07:46 AM

way to pull out the stat sheet

gbs3769

02-13-2007, 10:41 AM

Hollis Price=my favorite college player in the last 10 years not from UW.

Do you remember him? Or did you just become an OU fan when you started going to school there?
I remember him. I remember when he shot 3-17 from the field against Syracuse in the East Regionals in Albany. He was awful. Of course, so was the rest of the Big XII that year.

- Primo

thehoss

02-13-2007, 10:54 AM

I remember him. I remember when he shot 3-17 from the field against Syracuse in the East Regionals in Albany. He was awful. Of course, so was the rest of the Big XII that year.

- Primo

whats up, man? tough one sunday, i thought my boys were gonna pull it off. i got roughed up in section 315, the verbal abuse was raining on me alllll game long. the dome is such a sweet place, that was my first trip.

gbs3769

02-13-2007, 10:58 AM

whats up, man? tough one sunday, i thought my boys were gonna pull it off. i got roughed up in section 315, the verbal abuse was raining on me alllll game long. the dome is such a sweet place, that was my first trip.
Yeah it can be quite hostile. Syracuse fans are not the best of fans.

But then again, I have been spoiled in being a Nebraska Football fan for so long. They are quite possibly the greatest sports fans on the planet.

It sucks we didn't get to meet up. I completely spaced it with the company I had in town.

- Primo

thehoss

02-13-2007, 11:00 AM

Yeah it can be quite hostile. Syracuse fans are not the best of fans.

But then again, I have been spoiled in being a Nebraska Football fan for so long. They are quite possibly the greatest sports fans on the planet.

It sucks we didn't get to meet up. I completely spaced it with the company I had in town.

- Primo

i know it, its cool though. are you going to the john mayer show february 27th?

UNLTrpt

02-13-2007, 11:16 AM

way to pull out the stat sheet

i needed to back myself up

gbs3769

02-13-2007, 11:23 AM

i know it, its cool though. are you going to the john mayer show february 27th?
I sure am. My mom and I are going. I just got my event reminder from Ticketmaster today.

- Primo

thehoss

02-13-2007, 11:27 AM

I sure am. My mom and I are going. I just got my event reminder from Ticketmaster today.

- Primo

sweet, ill be there as well. im staying at the econo lodge university on james street. i got a group with me, we'll be there aftershow if you wanna stop by or something. if anything, we can atleast meet up in the venue for a beer before the show. keep in touch :thumbsup

gbs3769

02-13-2007, 11:29 AM

sweet, ill be there as well. im staying at the econo lodge university on james street. i got a group with me, we'll be there aftershow if you wanna stop by or something. if anything, we can atleast meet up in the venue for a beer before the show. keep in touch :thumbsup
Definitely. You'll have to send me your number again.

- Primo

UNC41

02-13-2007, 11:41 AM

It seems really ironic considering they have IMO the best big man in the country, but I think their offense relys to much on hitting outside shots. And when they don't, they can have an EXTREMELY difficult time scoring. Gray seems like he can be easily taken out of games for periods of times for some reason. They just don't strike me as an elite team this year.

You really think Aaron Gray is the best post player in the country???

GavMan33

02-13-2007, 12:38 PM

I remember him. I remember when he shot 3-17 from the field against Syracuse in the East Regionals in Albany. He was awful. Of course, so was the rest of the Big XII that year.

- Primo

Yeah, I was at the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 that year in Albany. I was so excited to be going to the NCAAs (I had been once before at that time when they were in Albany in 95), and then they had bad teams there. Oklahoma was the best one, but they weren't playing well. Then there was Syracuse, who I despise with an absolute passion. Then two upset teams, Butler and Auburn. That was a bad hit for me.

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 03:15 PM

You really think Aaron Gray is the best post player in the country???

When he plays with effort, yes. Him or Fazekas.

twosteppn36

02-13-2007, 03:35 PM

It seems really ironic considering they have IMO the best big man in the country, but I think their offense relys to much on hitting outside shots. And when they don't, they can have an EXTREMELY difficult time scoring. Gray seems like he can be easily taken out of games for periods of times for some reason. They just don't strike me as an elite team this year.

what so good about him? hes tall, thats it. hes slow as hell and very inconsistent

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 04:52 PM

what so good about him? hes tall, thats it. hes slow as hell and very inconsistent

He's 7'1, he doesn't need to be fast. And I agree he is inconsistent, but when he plays to his potential, he is the best POST player in the game. He has PHENOMENAL foot work down low, and is almost guaranteed to get fouled or score when he gets the ball in the paint. He needs to do a better job of fighting to get open down there though, he doesn't seem as tough as he could be.

I would definitely not say Oden is better, yet, and Hansbrough hasn't impressed me that much at all this year. Healthy, I might have to put Nick Fazekas ahead though, like I stated earlier, I love his game. Gray is continuing to get better, and I think he'll immediately be a key factor for whatever team he gets drafted by.

Pittsburgh without Aaron Gray would hardly even be a top 25 team. And I'm not exaggerating.

twosteppn36

02-13-2007, 05:07 PM

He's 7'1, he doesn't need to be fast. And I agree he is inconsistent, but when he plays to his potential, he is the best POST player in the game. He has PHENOMENAL foot work down low, and is almost guaranteed to get fouled or score when he gets the ball in the paint. He needs to do a better job of fighting to get open down there though, he doesn't seem as tough as he could be.

I would definitely not say Oden is better, yet, and Hansbrough hasn't impressed me that much at all this year. Healthy, I might have to put Nick Fazekas ahead though, like I stated earlier, I love his game. Gray is continuing to get better, and I think he'll immediately be a key factor for whatever team he gets drafted by.

Pittsburgh without Aaron Gray would hardly even be a top 25 team. And I'm not exaggerating.

ehh...at this point, id rather have hibbert

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 05:12 PM

ehh...at this point, id rather have hibbert

Based on the last 2 or 3 games sure. But you wanna talk about Aaron Gray being inconsistent, Hibbert is far worse.

UNC41

02-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Based on the last 2 or 3 games sure. But you wanna talk about Aaron Gray being inconsistent, Hibbert is far worse.

I'd rather have Hibbert and completely disagree with you on Gray.

gbs3769

02-13-2007, 05:50 PM

I'd rather have Hibbert and completely disagree with you on Gray.
:thumbsup

- Primo

seekupig

02-13-2007, 06:02 PM

He was awful. Of course, so was the rest of the Big XII that year.

at least you've finally acknowledged that Syracuse winning the title had nothing to do with them being good and everything to do with the Big XII being awful..... ;)

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 06:10 PM

I'd rather have Hibbert and completely disagree with you on Gray.

And you're allowed to do so.....

Explanations are welcomed though.

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 06:15 PM

I'll take 6'5 Alando Tucker over both of them, not that I think about it.:)

gbs3769

02-13-2007, 06:30 PM

at least you've finally acknowledged that Syracuse winning the title had nothing to do with them being good and everything to do with the Big XII being awful..... ;)
We were Big XII Champions and all... 5-0 in conference.

- Primo

UNC41

02-13-2007, 06:31 PM

And you're allowed to do so.....

Explanations are welcomed though.

I think he's a little soft. His inconsistency is a huge reason why. I don't get the sense that he wants it all times. He has some solid moves in the post, but there are often too long of stretches where you don't see them because he doesn't use the energy to get in position to receive the ball. When I watch him I never feel like I'm watching the best post player in the nation.

seekupig

02-13-2007, 07:20 PM

UNC41

02-13-2007, 07:28 PM

Week 15 Ants Poll

1. Florida (4)
2. Wisconsin
3. UNC
4. Ohio St.
5. Texas A&M
6. UCLA
7.(tie) Memphis
Kansas
9. Washington St.
10.(tie) Georgetown
Nevada
12. Pitt
13. Marquette
14. Butler
15. S. Illinois
16. Oregon
17. Air Force
18. BC
19. Indiana
20.(tie) Arizona
USC
22. Virginia Tech
23.(tie) Kentucky
West Virginia
25. Texas

Also Receiving Votes: Kansas St., Oklahoma St., Notre Dame, Alabama

Participating Voters: UNC41, clayj41, HolyCow, willthethrill

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 07:31 PM

I think he's a little soft. His inconsistency is a huge reason why. I don't get the sense that he wants it all times. He has some solid moves in the post, but there are often too long of stretches where you don't see them because he doesn't use the energy to get in position to receive the ball. When I watch him I never feel like I'm watching the best post player in the nation.

Well, alright. You pretty much stated exactly what I said when I talked about his flaws, and he definitely has them.

But when it comes down to it, if I had to choose one center for one game in college basketball right now, it would be him. His size is such a problem for so many matchups, he's a force when he wants to be.

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 07:33 PM

zdaddy

02-13-2007, 08:20 PM

I would say Aaron Gray has the best potential (excluding Greg Oden) of any post player in the nation. I watched the game last night agains Louisville, and he has good moves and has a huge presence down low. But he is inconsistent, and looks lazy sometimes and I get the vibe that he almost feels out of place.

I would also say its a down year overall for postmen in college hoops.

GavMan33

02-13-2007, 09:07 PM

UNC41

02-13-2007, 09:59 PM

Well, alright. You pretty much stated exactly what I said when I talked about his flaws, and he definitely has them.

But when it comes down to it, if I had to choose one center for one game in college basketball right now, it would be him. His size is such a problem for so many matchups, he's a force when he wants to be.

So if you get to choose a guy for one game you are going to choose a soft and inconsistent one? Fair enough.

I would say Aaron Gray has the best potential (excluding Greg Oden) of any post player in the nation. I watched the game last night agains Louisville, and he has good moves and has a huge presence down low. But he is inconsistent, and looks lazy sometimes and I get the vibe that he almost feels out of place.

I would also say its a down year overall for postmen in college hoops.

Brandan Wright and Roy Hibbert are just two post players with far more potential than Gray.

HolyCow

02-13-2007, 10:11 PM

Gonna need a heck of a second half.

Tech beating A&M doesn't help out NCAA hopes.

UNC41

02-13-2007, 10:24 PM

Both A&M and Jelly go down. Hopefully Carolina can hang on.

mizzoudmbfan

02-13-2007, 11:06 PM

I better purchase my plane tickets for Hotlanta.

Mizzou > Techsas > aTm > kansas > Florida

I mean basically we are the best team in the nation.

:freak

edit: Maric is really tearing it up in Lincoln. 41 points with one minute remaining.

SmoothD41

02-13-2007, 11:09 PM

overtime in chapel hill

SmoothD41

02-13-2007, 11:42 PM

VT beats Carolina again.

unccrombie

02-13-2007, 11:48 PM

why do we suck at life?

UNLTrpt

02-13-2007, 11:50 PM

edit: Maric is really tearing it up in Lincoln. 41 points with one minute remaining.

career high 41 for the Aussie.
1 off the Nebraska single game high (Piatkowski vs. OU in 94 Big 8 championship game)
2 off the Sports Center record (Harold Minor, USC in 91)

74-63 over the purple kitties.

edit: and he sat out the last 2 mins or so.

dmb71687

02-13-2007, 11:53 PM

Wow, what a night of basketball!

seekupig

02-14-2007, 12:07 AM

this may seem strange, but after watching tonite's game, i think UNC's depth hurts them in close games or when playing from behind. they don't seem to get into a rhythm when the players are changing at every clock stoppage.

justinandimcool

02-14-2007, 12:08 AM

Wow, so Texas Tech has punched their ticket. Virginia Tech probably landed themselves a #4 or maybe #3 if they can get a big win in the ACC tourney. Good for them.

HolyCow

02-14-2007, 12:27 AM

We lost.

Hello NIT. :lorraine

justinandimcool

02-14-2007, 12:38 AM

We'll see Royce. A&M next and Kansas soon, along with the Big XII tourney. With a schedule like that remaining I'm not sure Oklahoma's a team I'd count out yet.

dmb71687

02-14-2007, 12:38 AM

Wow, so Texas Tech has punched their ticket. Virginia Tech probably landed themselves a #4 or maybe #3 if they can get a big win in the ACC tourney. Good for them.

You really think they've already done enough for a guaranteed spot...? I would say they're still on the bubble, I know it's a huge win, but it takes more than one marquee win. They have some bad losses, and a lot of losses period. They still have work to do IMO.

SmoothD41

02-14-2007, 12:41 AM

Texas Tech is a confusing team.

justinandimcool

02-14-2007, 12:44 AM

You really think they've already done enough for a guaranteed spot...? I would say they're still on the bubble, I know it's a huge win, but it takes more than one marquee win. They have some bad losses, and a lot of losses period. They still have work to do IMO.

Eh, it's a tough call. I think they're closer towards the way in then they are out. They'll have a better record than .500 by the end of the season. Two wins against the Aggies and one against Kansas, if they hold up and beat the teams they should the rest of the way (Baylor, CU, ISU) and have a good tourney, I'd put em in.

GavMan33

02-14-2007, 01:08 AM

Eh, it's a tough call. I think they're closer towards the way in then they are out. They'll have a better record than .500 by the end of the season. Two wins against the Aggies and one against Kansas, if they hold up and beat the teams they should the rest of the way (Baylor, CU, ISU) and have a good tourney, I'd put em in.

Tech is still only 5-6 in the Big XII. They still got some work to do, although the Aggies x2 and KU looks great. Big win for Tennessee tonight over UK. And of course, VA Tech. Ah, college basketball. It's a wonderful thing.

UNLTrpt

02-14-2007, 01:09 AM

We'll see Royce. A&M next and Kansas soon, along with the Big XII tourney. With a schedule like that remaining I'm not sure Oklahoma's a team I'd count out yet.

well they have to win them thats the thing. If you can't beat ISU, what makes you think they can beat aTm and KU?

justinandimcool

02-14-2007, 01:15 AM

well they have to win them thats the thing. If you can't beat ISU, what makes you think they can beat aTm and KU?

We've all seen bigger upsets happen, and we all probably know big wins mean more to the committee than bad losses. I'm just saying Oklahoma still has more than alot of hope on their side.

UNLTrpt

02-14-2007, 01:16 AM

We've all seen bigger upsets happen, and we all probably know big wins mean more to the committee than bad losses. I'm just saying Oklahoma still has more than alot of hope on their side.

oh no doubt but to me OU still has yet to prove they're in the dance. Win a couple and yeah they're in.

UNLTrpt

02-14-2007, 01:18 AM

justinandimcool

02-14-2007, 01:19 AM

Tech is still only 5-6 in the Big XII. They still got some work to do, although the Aggies x2 and KU looks great. Big win for Tennessee tonight over UK. And of course, VA Tech. Ah, college basketball. It's a wonderful thing.

Yeah, but if TTech can win the games they have remaining that they SHOULD win, they'll be at 9-8 or a steady 10-7, which I think should be enough after the big wins they've had. It all comes down to whether or not they can validate this big win tonight by finishing strong against lesser teams.

SEC teams are more confusing to me now. Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama will all be fun to see how they end up.

And like I said, VA tech is looking at a really high seed.

Edit: I forgot Vanderbilt. Now that is a confusing team.

HolyCow

02-14-2007, 01:20 AM

well they have to win them thats the thing. If you can't beat ISU, what makes you think they can beat aTm and KU?
Because they are at home...

seekupig

02-14-2007, 01:28 AM

Because they are at home...

that will help, but it doesn't help that KU and A&M are tied again atop the conference and playing for the championship. it would help you if the conference wasn't up for grabs and neither team had much to play for....

justinandimcool

02-14-2007, 01:44 AM

UNLTrpt

02-14-2007, 01:47 AM

Because they are at home...

a valid point.

willthethrill

02-14-2007, 02:08 AM

Assuming the top teams win their conference tourney: Pittsburgh, Wisconsin, UCLA, Florida, Texas A&M, UNC (it's BC right now but I guarantee that will change by next week).

So assuming those teams win their auto bid, here are the potential at-large contenders

ACC: Boston College, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Duke, Florida State

Big 10: Ohio State, Indiana

Big 12: Kansas, Texas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Kansas State

Big East: Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, West Virginia

Pac 10: Washington State, USC, Oregon, Arizona, Stanford, Washington

SEC: Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss

That's 28 at larges from the majors. Not happening.
So, with alot of basketball to be played, who's gonna be out by the time March comes? Anyone I'm missing?
Virginia gets in over FSU or with FSU.

Too much with the Big 12. TT still has work to do, OU still has work to do.

I wouldn't count Notre Dame out yet and I wouldn't count WV in yet either. The UCLA win isn't an auto-bid.

Washington isn't necessarily in.

Ole Miss. Not in. Vandy needs to take care of business. Alabama too. SEC West might not have an NCAA team.

This is actually a relatively weak year for the mid-majors. I think there will definitely be less mids than last year. Hell, Gonzaga might not even make it.

SIDE NOTE: Our youth is starting to show and it's killing me. I think VT (an experienced team) is our Kryptonite, not a good sign.

UNLTrpt

02-14-2007, 02:09 AM

Too much with the Big 12. TT still has work to do, OU still has work to do.

KSU does as well.

chiznaz

02-14-2007, 03:49 AM

Man I couldn't go to the game. I had seminars and recruiting stuff with Big 4 accounting firms tonight. I Tivo'ed the game and was completely shocked by how we played.

Tech is a confusing team b/c the should be horrible under any coach, but a team headed by Bobby Knight can beat anyone on a good night of basketball.

A&M was pathetic and got nothing outside of our 3 main scorers. This is the thing I hate. I had a feeling we would drop another game like this after beating Kansas, but Kansas doesn't lose confrence games like this. Even with the win against KU, it's going to be very hard for A&M to win the conference title.

gbs3769

02-14-2007, 09:15 AM

1 off the Nebraska single game high (Piatkowski vs. OU in 94 Big 8 championship game)
That is a name I haven't heard in a long long time.

- Primo

GavMan33

02-14-2007, 10:46 AM

Virginia gets in over FSU or with FSU.

Too much with the Big 12. TT still has work to do, OU still has work to do.

I wouldn't count Notre Dame out yet and I wouldn't count WV in yet either. The UCLA win isn't an auto-bid.

Washington isn't necessarily in.

Ole Miss. Not in. Vandy needs to take care of business. Alabama too. SEC West might not have an NCAA team.

This is actually a relatively weak year for the mid-majors. I think there will definitely be less mids than last year. Hell, Gonzaga might not even make it.

SIDE NOTE: Our youth is starting to show and it's killing me. I think VT (an experienced team) is our Kryptonite, not a good sign.

First, I hear you with Virginia. That's a good ballclub, and probably more-deserving at this point. The problem is it's still only Feb. 14, and it's still very hard to determine who will be at what record come March 1.

As for the mid-majors, I agree, only to a point. First, I think all us bubble-watchers need to hope that Gonzaga wins that WCC Conference Tourney, so we don´t need to worry about them taking an at large spot.

Look at the CAA though. Yeah, George Mason will not be dancing this year. But Virginia Commonwealth looks very, very good. I believe they are a top at large candidate. Also, Hofstra and Old Dominion look great. ODU had a big win at home vs. VCU over the weekend. And then theres the most intriguing of all. In 4th place in the CAA at 11-4, 19-6 overall, is Drexel. Remember, they have won at Syracuse and at Villanova. So there´s 4 CAA teams right there. Not saying they will all get in, just bringing them to your attention.

And because I must, you should also be rooting for Xavier to win the A-10 Tourney Championship. The more I read, as long as the Musketeers avoid a bad loss vs. Richmond or at LaSalle, consider them "in."

Trippin4136

02-14-2007, 10:52 AM

I had no idea UNC and Texas A&M both lost until I opened this thread. Both are pretty big losses for those teams and HUGE wins for VT and Texas Tech.

UNC41

02-14-2007, 11:28 AM

Virginia Tech is a good team, but there is no reason they should be a team with as much talent as UNC twice. It looks like the Heels are headed toward a No. 2 seed. Hopefully Roy can get everything straightened out before the tournament.

unccrombie

02-14-2007, 12:53 PM

willthethrill

02-14-2007, 01:19 PM

Glad I didn't buy those tickets for the Winston-Salem NCAA games, whew.

rconverse

02-14-2007, 01:26 PM

Upset in Boston tonight?

UNC41

02-14-2007, 01:49 PM

Glad I didn't buy those tickets for the Winston-Salem NCAA games, whew.

UNC will still likely play there with a 2 or 3 seed

What is frustrating is all of the late game threes they took. You've got two of the best post players in the ACC, including Hansbrough who was drawing fouls the whole game, and start heaving threes late in the game. Dur, dur, dur.

clayj41

02-14-2007, 03:04 PM

Upset in Boston tonight?

I hope so, UNC needs the help in the ACC.

SteelerMan

02-14-2007, 03:51 PM

UNC will still likely play there with a 2 or 3 seed

What is frustrating is all of the late game threes they took. You've got two of the best post players in the ACC, including Hansbrough who was drawing fouls the whole game, and start heaving threes late in the game. Dur, dur, dur.

Roy did say it was the worst coaching job of his career. Maybe that's what he was referring to.

HolyCow

02-14-2007, 05:26 PM

That is a name I haven't heard in a long long time.

- Primo
How about this one.

Kimani Ffriend.(sp?)

RJ2kWJ

02-14-2007, 10:51 PM

Well Im liking my squad so far in this game... Playing with emotion and playing smart.

Even though we dont have that little number beside our name... I wouldn't want to play us in the tourney if we get goin again.

unccrombie

02-14-2007, 11:16 PM

the pollsters are, no one here is. once they find their groove i wouldnt want to be the team that plays them
:thumbsup you're right....oh thats me

RJ2kWJ

02-14-2007, 11:17 PM

:thumbsup you're right....oh thats me

:lol

seekupig

02-14-2007, 11:35 PM

Clemson may have very well played themselves out of the tourney with that pathetic loss to Wake Forest tonite....:lol

5-6 in conference with games against Duke, Boston College, Va Tech remaining....

seekupig

02-14-2007, 11:42 PM

did Paulus just airball a free throw? :lol :lol

unccrombie

02-14-2007, 11:52 PM

uh...bc...comeback...uh?

seekupig

02-14-2007, 11:56 PM

Duke is playing not to lose..... not a good sign for the Devils (reguardless of the outcome of this game. they have ZERO confidence.)

GavMan33

02-15-2007, 12:05 AM

So the Dookies get a W they desperately needed at Boston College. 6-6 now, and in decent shape in a VERY strong ACC. How about Kryzewski's show of emotion earlier in this game, where he was wailin his arms everywhere? I tend to listen to most games on MUTE, especially when Dickie V is on the job. Anybody have anything for it? I think it's great, just curious...

unccrombie

02-15-2007, 12:18 AM

Clemson may have very well played themselves out of the tourney with that pathetic loss to Wake Forest tonite....:lol

5-6 in conference with games against Duke, Boston College, Va Tech remaining....
did anyone besides the pollsters believe in them?

seekupig

02-15-2007, 12:22 AM

did anyone besides the pollsters believe in them?

i was a bigger believer in their garbage non-conference schedule than i was in the pollsters....

willthethrill

02-15-2007, 12:24 AM

UNC will still likely play there with a 2 or 3 seed

What is frustrating is all of the late game threes they took. You've got two of the best post players in the ACC, including Hansbrough who was drawing fouls the whole game, and start heaving threes late in the game. Dur, dur, dur.
I don't get it. When we're in tight games, our offense becomes "everyone stand around and watch Ty try to penetrate on 5 guys." Incredibly frustrating to shoot 3-17 from 3 while not getting Tyler the ball.

PS - Wright=6pts. :BANG :BANG

seekupig

02-15-2007, 12:34 AM

I don't get it. When we're in tight games, our offense becomes "everyone stand around and watch Ty try to penetrate on 5 guys."

it goes back to what i said last night. i think their depth hurts them in tight games. they have no rhythm as a team when the players are changing at every stopped ball. Ty is the only constant on the floor and it seems to be hard for the other players to get into the flow of the game when they sub like a hockey team.

willthethrill

02-15-2007, 01:19 AM

it goes back to what i said last night. i think their depth hurts them in tight games. they have no rhythm as a team when the players are changing at every stopped ball. Ty is the only constant on the floor and it seems to be hard for the other players to get into the flow of the game when they sub like a hockey team.
Well at the end of the game, we had Ty, Wayne, Marcus, Brandan and Tyler all in there for a solid bunch of time and they couldn't get it done. We need a leader and I think Marcus could be just that. Now we just need players to listen.

zdaddy

02-15-2007, 01:20 AM

So I just did some poll on ESPN.com and evidently 59% of people thing Texas A&M is going to win it all......interesing...

willthethrill

02-15-2007, 01:31 AM

This will probably change soon, but why does Scheyer always have that face?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/index

UNLTrpt

02-15-2007, 03:18 AM

How about this one.

Kimani Ffriend.(sp?)

:eek Kimani!!!!!

that kids raw athletic talent was a sight to see. Couldn't hit a free throw to save his Jamaican ass but damn could he jump out of the gym

UNLTrpt

02-15-2007, 03:21 AM

Heres one for you old Big 8 fans, Fred Hoiberg.

does anybody but me remember him being called "the mayor?" that dude could shoot.

Tiduwho

02-15-2007, 04:03 AM

Heres one for you old Big 8 fans, Fred Hoiberg.

does anybody but me remember him being called "the mayor?" that dude could shoot.

Yeah, he was #1 in the league in 3 point % with the Bulls a few years ago. What's he doing these days?

Final Four:

Florida, UCLA, UNC, and oh yeah A&M.

GavMan33

02-15-2007, 10:28 AM

So since I seem to be the token mid-major conference guy in here, I figured I'd post this that I saw on Yahoo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=ArFY5yaDmUhLt1hWizUg6Hw5nYcB?slug=mj-midmajors021407&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I like that Xavier gets love obviously, but check out the other teams Coach Jarvis highlights. Air Force, Butler, Southern Illinois, and Nevada. That's quite a top-tier group there. Hopefully they all finish out strong....

gbs3769

02-15-2007, 10:44 AM

Kimani Ffriend.(sp?)
I wasn't living in Nebraska at that point in time so I never heard about him.

- Primo

rconverse

02-15-2007, 11:12 AM

Duke is playing not to lose..... not a good sign for the Devils (reguardless of the outcome of this game. they have ZERO confidence.)

You are 100% correct. If they had any confidence at the end of games, they could easily only have 4 losses.

Still, I can't stand BC. I was at the game at BC last year, so seeing MY Devils sweep them this year (during a down year) is awesome.

I think that also solitifies their tourney appearance this year. It may be a short lived appearance, but an appearance.

HolyCow

02-15-2007, 12:12 PM

Heres one for you old Big 8 fans, Fred Hoiberg.

does anybody but me remember him being called "the mayor?" that dude could shoot.

Hoiberg... awesome.

A couple of other Big 8 classics.

Ernie Abercrombie
Randy Rutherford

I am trying to remember an old Mizzou player under Norm Stewart, but I can't recall his name...

Trippin4136

02-15-2007, 12:55 PM

Let me just say....

WHEW!!!!

Complacency and laziness is going to be the end of our team. Last night hopefully was a kick in the ass. Cruise control isn't going to work in college basketball, even if you are playing a last place team on the road.

RJ2kWJ

02-15-2007, 01:03 PM

This will probably change soon, but why does Scheyer always have that face?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/index

Why does it seem like Tar Hell fans on here always stoop down to childish jokes taht barely make any sense? I'm pretty sure I can pull 8745987 pics of Tyler, Brandon, and others with similiar faces.

unccrombie

02-15-2007, 01:11 PM

Why does it seem like Tar Hell fans on here always stoop down to childish jokes taht barely make any sense? I'm pretty sure I can pull 8745987 pics of Tyler, Brandon, and others with similiar faces.
we lack an education :lol

SteelerMan

02-15-2007, 03:33 PM

RJ2kWJ

02-15-2007, 04:40 PM

I'm not sure, but I think you've just shown us why people think Duke fans are condescending.

Well can you expect any different when someone points out a players facial expression during a game? I mean nail on Duke all you want as I like to nail on UNC... but atleast make some sense or come up with something thats atleast funny in SOME way.

I mean I've found a lot of UNC fans jokes about Duke in this thread funny and well thought out. Some are just simply retarded though. :lol

UNLTrpt

02-15-2007, 04:40 PM

Yeah, he was #1 in the league in 3 point % with the Bulls a few years ago. What's he doing these days?

he caught on with the T-wolves a couple years back now he's a assistant GM with the wolves.

UNLTrpt

02-15-2007, 04:43 PM

Hoiberg... awesome.

A couple of other Big 8 classics.

Ernie Abercrombie
Randy Rutherford

I am trying to remember an old Mizzou player under Norm Stewart, but I can't recall his name...

wow you got me with those two...

:lol

I was trying to think of a mizzou player here...let me look one up...Anthony Peeler.

willthethrill

02-15-2007, 06:27 PM

Well can you expect any different when someone points out a players facial expression during a game? I mean nail on Duke all you want as I like to nail on UNC... but atleast make some sense or come up with something thats atleast funny in SOME way.

I mean I've found a lot of UNC fans jokes about Duke in this thread funny and well thought out. Some are just simply retarded though. :lol
I'm glad you find my pointing out that many pictures of Scheyer have a very awkward face retarded. I wasn't trying to thrill you with my wit about some dook-elitist remark.

For your pleasure:
http://www.unc.edu/bounce/backpage.html

seekupig

02-15-2007, 07:37 PM

mizzoudmbfan

02-15-2007, 08:20 PM

GavMan33

02-15-2007, 09:38 PM

Sunvold and Stipo(a little before my time and probably most everyone in here's time).
Peeler
Derrick Cheivous
Melvin Booker
Doug Smith

alittle more recently
Keyon Dooling
Kareem Rush

These are all names that stick out to me as names other people would recognize. I could start naming rosters if anyone likes.

That's OK bro, unless you want me to start naming former Atlantic 10 stars. Hm. Just for fun, how about Tim Winn and Caswell Cyrus? I bring them up because you guys may have a clue about them. They led St. Bonaventure to a NCAA Tournament birth in 2000, and lost in 2OT to a young Tayshaun Prince-led Kentucky squad.

Getting back to the present. Tonight on the bubble watch, I highlight Purdue. They are currently in a tight one with Indiana at home. Anybody think if they can pull this one off tonight, they got a shot? With a win, that'd get them to 6-6 in the Big 10, and 17-9 overall. Anybody buying the Boilermakers?

willthethrill

02-15-2007, 09:43 PM

That's OK bro, unless you want me to start naming former Atlantic 10 stars. Hm. Just for fun, how about Tim Winn and Caswell Cyrus? I bring them up because you guys may have a clue about them. They led St. Bonaventure to a NCAA Tournament birth in 2000, and lost in 2OT to a young Tayshaun Prince-led Kentucky squad.

Getting back to the present. Tonight on the bubble watch, I highlight Purdue. They are currently in a tight one with Indiana at home. Anybody think if they can pull this one off tonight, they got a shot? With a win, that'd get them to 6-6 in the Big 10, and 17-9 overall. Anybody buying the Boilermakers?
6-6 in the Big 10, this year, I dunno....

GavMan33

02-15-2007, 09:46 PM

6-6 in the Big 10, this year, I dunno....

Agreed, but Illinois and Michigan St. are in the same boat this season....

And there are a lot of "NCAA caliber" teams in the ACC that are in the 5-6, 6-6 range as well....

RJ2kWJ

02-15-2007, 10:18 PM

:rolleyes

:lol Kinda funny... was a typo though no joke.

GavMan33

02-15-2007, 10:27 PM

6-6 in the Big 10, this year, I dunno....

Apparently Purdue heard me all the way out in West Lafayette, and finished it. So they move to 6-6 in the Big Ten, 17-9 overall. I got a chance to look at their schedule. They have nonconference wins over Oklahoma, Depaul, Virginia, and Mizzou, along with a 3-point loss at Butler. They have a bad loss to Indiana St., but I'm not really sure how bad that actually is. I don't know their record off-hand, but I do know that they beat Butler earlier this season, so maybe they're not as bad as I think. And one other thing to consider with Purdue; the rest of their schedule has to be the easiest in Division I. At Iowa, at Northwestern, vs. Minnesota, and vs. Northwestern again. They could easily win those 4, and finish up at 10-6, 21-9 overall. Not bad at all in the Big 10. I say if that scenario plays out, and they can get a win in the Big Ten Tourney, they are "In".

GavMan33

02-15-2007, 10:57 PM

So, after further review of the Big Ten Conference:

I got 5 teams that are either "In", or I believe will play themselves "In" to the NCAAs by the end of the regular season. Wisconsin, Ohio St., and Indiana, obviously. I believe Michigan State will "out". I also believe Michigan will be "out". So that leaves Illinois and Purdue. Purdue, as I said above, will be able to play themselves in. What about the Illini? Their schedule to finish out is not too bad either, as they play Northwestern and Michigan at home, then finish @ Penn St. and @ Iowa. Since I don't have a lot of respect for Iowa and their 7-5 record in the conference, I guess I forgot to include them :lol A sixth team could possibly get in as a result of the Big Ten Tournament, but I believe the 5 will be Wisconsin, Ohio St., Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois....

UNC41

02-16-2007, 12:49 AM

he caught on with the T-wolves a couple years back now he's a assistant GM with the wolves.

Hoiberg was one of my favorite Wolves when he was on the team. He left absolutely everything out on the court every game and played basketball the way it should be.

Agreed, but Illinois and Michigan St. are in the same boat this season....

And there are a lot of "NCAA caliber" teams in the ACC that are in the 5-6, 6-6 range as well....

The ACC is a much deeper conference than the Big 10.

GavMan33

02-16-2007, 12:55 AM

The ACC is a much deeper conference than the Big 10.

Yeah I figured I had that coming my way from one of you guys. I'll be interested to see how many 9-7s will get in from the ACC....

justinandimcool

02-16-2007, 01:06 AM

Is anyone getting this USC/Arizona game at their place? Both teams are equally impressive, I'd be surprised if they didn't get to the Sweet 16. They've got some decent bodies down low and just plain good shooters.

UNC41

02-16-2007, 01:17 AM

Yeah I figured I had that coming my way from one of you guys. I'll be interested to see how many 9-7s will get in from the ACC....

I'm not saying this just bcause I'm an ACC fan. The Big 10 is better at the top. It has two elite teams to the ACC's one. From top to bottom, however, the ACC. I'm thinking the ACC gets in about 7 teams. Lunardi had them at 9 in Bracketolgy, but I can't see that.

GavMan33

02-16-2007, 01:39 AM

I'm not saying this just bcause I'm an ACC fan. The Big 10 is better at the top. It has two elite teams to the ACC's one. From top to bottom, however, the ACC. I'm thinking the ACC gets in about 7 teams. Lunardi had them at 9 in Bracketolgy, but I can't see that.

Hey man, you know me, I'm an Atlantic 10 boy, so I take no offense. Watching the Duke/BC game last night, they were talking about the possibility of 9 teams. I have a hard time seeing 9 teams in when last year's Big East only got 8 in (screwing Univ. of Cincinnati). It may truly be that the teams in the ACC are beating the hell out of each other, so the records are all mushed together around the .500 mark. But don't you have to be at .500 in your conference to be eligible for the NCAAs? At least one of those teams mathematically speaking has to be under .500 by season's end, don't they?

In other news, I'd like to personally apologize to all of you for the bullshit that went on at 9pm Thursday night on ESPN2. The national game tonight was UMass @ Fordham, an A-10 matchup. For anyone that didn't watch (everybody but me I'm sure), it ended up being a UMass blowout. The good thing about it is you did get to see one of the premiere defensive players in the country, Stephane Lasme of UMass. I've got to believe this kid has a NBA career ahead of him. UMass's other big star, Rashaun Freeman, didn't have such a great night tonight, but he's another top-notch player. I'm lukewarm about UMass winning the A-10 Tournament. I don't think they have a strong enough resume to get in at-large, but of course I want Xavier to get in with as high a seed as possible. But I'd love to see UMass shown off to the country on CBS....

dmb71687

02-16-2007, 01:41 AM

ACC is definitely a stronger conference than the Big 10 this year...

dmb71687

02-16-2007, 01:44 AM

Hey man, you know me, I'm an Atlantic 10 boy, so I take no offense. Watching the Duke/BC game last night, they were talking about the possibility of 9 teams. I have a hard time seeing 9 teams in when last year's Big East only got 8 in (screwing Univ. of Cincinnati). It may truly be that the teams in the ACC are beating the hell out of each other, so the records are all mushed together around the .500 mark. But don't you have to be at .500 in your conference to be eligible for the NCAAs? At least one of those teams mathematically speaking has to be under .500 by season's end, don't they?

Definitely not true.

seekupig

02-16-2007, 01:45 AM

I'll be interested to see how many 9-7s will get in from the ACC....

the number of 7-9 teams they're going to get in is what interests me....

GavMan33

02-16-2007, 01:52 AM

Definitely not true.

OK, he says it's not true. My apologies, I've been led astray somewhere. So in that case, as Seekupig says, I'm not more interested on 8-8/7-9 teams getting in from the ACC....

zdaddy

02-16-2007, 04:17 AM

bubba40

02-16-2007, 04:47 AM

unccrombie

02-16-2007, 10:18 AM

thestand

02-16-2007, 10:28 AM

What the fuck, Oregon.

gbs3769

02-16-2007, 10:31 AM

Hoya Saxa.
We continue to rise in everyone's personal poll, and are now #14 in one national poll and #16 in the other.
We will continue to rise.
Hoya Saxa.

*continues paying homage to image of John Thompson III*
02.26 it will all come crumbling back down. The Dome will be packed. It will be loud. And Jimmy B will make JT3 his bitch.

"My two favorite teams are Syracuse and anyone who beats Georgetown."

- Primo

GavMan33

02-16-2007, 11:27 AM

02.26 it will all come crumbling back down. The Dome will be packed. It will be loud. And Jimmy B will make JT3 his bitch.

"My two favorite teams are Syracuse and anyone who beats Georgetown."

- Primo

Wow, I'm sorry. I hold a bitter and intense hatred for the Orangemen. :twak

gbs3769

02-16-2007, 12:22 PM

Wow, I'm sorry. I hold a bitter and intense hatred for the Orangemen. :twak
I still don't understand why.

- Primo

GavMan33

02-16-2007, 01:51 PM

I still don't understand why.

- Primo

Primo-I'm kind of in a hurry right now, so I don't have time to get into it. When I have a little bit of time on my hands, I'll get into it....

unccrombie

02-16-2007, 02:28 PM

lacrosse season eh? something to look forward to it seems...

rconverse

02-16-2007, 03:00 PM

I got Duke winning the ACC tourney.

Who's coming with me? :)

gbs3769

02-16-2007, 03:06 PM

lacrosse season eh? something to look forward to it seems...
Season opener is Sunday.

We are going to be absolutely deadly on attack. Our top 6 are amazing. I just hope that Desko lets them run this year. We are good enough to be able to just outshoot teams this year.

- Primo

seekupig

02-16-2007, 03:12 PM

I got Duke winning the ACC tourney.

Who's coming with me? :)

i think you'll probably be on your own.....

bubba40

02-16-2007, 05:58 PM

unccrombie

02-16-2007, 06:19 PM

I got Duke winning the ACC tourney.

Who's coming with me? :)
im takin VT, as of now. ill love my pay day too

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 01:20 AM

So, watching College GameNight.

They had on the coach of Winthrop, after an 11-point win at Missouri State. First, MO St. is a good ballclub (they will need to win out to have a shot at an at-large, but a good squad nonetheless). Winthrop went in there, and really took it to them. They are 22-4, and 12-0 in the Big South conference. 4 of those wins are non-Division I, so that's technically 18-4. They have gone to Wisconsin (3-point loss), North Carolina, Texas A&M, and Maryland. They didn't win any of those games, but the fact that they played them means something. The coach truly believes, he said, that if they win out, they should be able to be an 8, 9 seed in the tournament. And they spoke about the possibility of an at-large for them. Doug Gottlieb (douche) believes they should be an at-large, if they can go undefeated in their conference in the regular season. I love this time of year :D

thehoss

02-17-2007, 12:18 PM

freeman and McKreith is still the best duo that ran the floors in the state championships at the gf civic center this decade. god damn, what a combo.

in OTHER news, st johns looks as if they've locked a spot in the big east tourny. time to make a syracuse-esque run of last year, and get to the big dance, woooooo

RJ2kWJ

02-17-2007, 01:34 PM

im takin VT, as of now. ill love my pay day too

One and done in both tourneys for 'em is my call.

unccrombie

02-17-2007, 02:20 PM

One and done in both tourneys for 'em is my call.
for the ncaa's prob, but i dunno for the ACC. they're probably going to be a 2/3 seed

UNLTrpt

02-17-2007, 02:28 PM

losing by less than 20 today will show improvement tonight.

Also scoring more than 8 at the half would be awesome too. Icing on the cake.

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 02:47 PM

thehoss

02-17-2007, 02:51 PM

Agreed. But who ended Freeman's high school career? ;)

yikes....it has slipped me... :( who was it?

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 02:54 PM

One and done in both tourneys for 'em is my call.

First of all, I'm also not sure about the ACC Tourney, but VA Tech MAY be one of those teams to watch, who their matchup may be. Who knows, maybe they end up with a GREAT 13seed to play, like Winthrop, as I mentioned above.

Secondly, where do you go to school? First, I assumed it was Duke, because you seem to be a pro-Duke guy in here. But I just read your sig, and you got Bobby Bowden in there, and Florida St. football. So what's the deal?

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 02:58 PM

yikes....it has slipped me... :( who was it?

You're lookin at him. Big Ten 3-seed La Salle Institute knocks off Big Ten 1-seed and defending state champion Schenectady, 52-49. Granted, they had lost McKrieth from the year before, but still, they were a very good squad (I think they went 15-1 in the Big Ten that season; beat us twice, 66-60, and 49-48.) So we knew we could play with them, and we played a great game. Unfortunately, we were beaten down at UAlbany in the Sectional Final to Troy, who was led by then-freshman Tiki Mayben (now a redshirt freshman at UMass). How bout that trip down memory lane? lol

justinandimcool

02-17-2007, 03:05 PM

Aw, Nova so close.

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 03:12 PM

Aw, Nova so close.

Call me greedy if you must. I was rooting for a Nova victory, because that helps out Xavier, who beat Nova at the Paradise Jam in the Virgin Islands in November. But that loss really hurts Nova, that could've really been a great resume win for them. Meanwhile, the game on right now, Washington @ Pittsburgh, is a HUGE game for Washington. They need this one, at 16-9 right now....

bubba40

02-17-2007, 03:39 PM

Aw, Nova so close.

:D :evil :D *pumps fist*

justinandimcool

02-17-2007, 03:54 PM

I hate CBS. I don't wanna watch UCLA garbage time anymore. I wanna see Vandy upset Florida!

justinandimcool

02-17-2007, 03:56 PM

Call me greedy if you must. I was rooting for a Nova victory, because that helps out Xavier, who beat Nova at the Paradise Jam in the Virgin Islands in November. But that loss really hurts Nova, that could've really been a great resume win for them. Meanwhile, the game on right now, Washington @ Pittsburgh, is a HUGE game for Washington. They need this one, at 16-9 right now....

Agreed. Washington loses, they've gotta be out. 6-9 in the Pac 10 this late won't do it.

How's Xavier standing right now?

GSUdawg521

02-17-2007, 03:56 PM

Cmon Commodores!!!

unccrombie

02-17-2007, 04:09 PM

we got a new #1 :)

GSUdawg521

02-17-2007, 04:09 PM

Fuck Yeah!

Trippin4136

02-17-2007, 04:10 PM

Does goes Florida! Down goes Florida!

Buckeyes #1? (that is if we don't choke away another game v. an inferior Big Ten opponent)

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 04:13 PM

Agreed. Washington loses, they've gotta be out. 6-9 in the Pac 10 this late won't do it.

How's Xavier standing right now?

Haven't played since last weekend's drubbing of George Washington in DC. 6:00 game tonight vs. Richmond. Playing great basketball; since a horrible 93-91 loss in Pittsburgh to Duquesne, the Muskies have reeled off three straight wins over Charlotte, St. Louis, and GW, by an average of 27.3 points per game. Hopefully this game vs. the 6-18 Spiders tonight continues that trend.

For resume-building wins, I would go with Villanova, Illinois, and Kansas St. all on neutral courts; then the @ GW last weekend on national TV was very big for us, as well as a home win vs. UMass last month. As you all know, the Atlantic 10 doesn't provide us with a ton of opportunities for great wins, so we have to play well when we have great opportunities.

As for bad losses, the loss @ Duquesne I mentioned earlier definitely ranks up there. Also losses @ Cincinnati and at home to Bucknell don't look great. And depending on how picky you are, maybe our loss @ St. Joseph's. As we stand right now, we are at 18-7, and 8-3 in the A-10. I would like to think that if we win out, we'd be at 13-3, 23-7 overall, heading into our conference tournament, not to mention an Atlantic 10 regular season championship. I would like to think that's enough for an at-large bid; but with our league being the way it is, I can't be certain....

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 04:15 PM

Does goes Florida! Down goes Florida!

Buckeyes #1? (that is if we don't choke away another game v. an inferior Big Ten opponent)

Hey Jon, you're still stuck in college football season there my friend. Being ranked #1 or #4 in college basketball really doesn't matter, unlike in college football, where it's necessary to be #1 all year. All that matters is who wins 6 games in the NCAA Tournament. That's why I love this sport, and I will truly never understand NCAA football....

Trippin4136

02-17-2007, 04:17 PM

Hey Jon, you're still stuck in college football season there my friend. Being ranked #1 or #4 in college basketball really doesn't matter, unlike in college football, where it's necessary to be #1 all year. All that matters is who wins 6 games in the NCAA Tournament. That's why I love this sport, and I will truly never understand NCAA football....

Oh I know it doesn't mean much. It's just a nice title to have. #1 in the NCAA Tournament is what matters.

justinandimcool

02-17-2007, 04:19 PM

Haven't played since last weekend's drubbing of George Washington in DC. 6:00 game tonight vs. Richmond. Playing great basketball; since a horrible 93-91 loss in Pittsburgh to Duquesne, the Muskies have reeled off three straight wins over Charlotte, St. Louis, and GW, by an average of 27.3 points per game. Hopefully this game vs. the 6-18 Spiders tonight continues that trend.

For resume-building wins, I would go with Villanova, Illinois, and Kansas St. all on neutral courts; then the @ GW last weekend on national TV was very big for us, as well as a home win vs. UMass last month. As you all know, the Atlantic 10 doesn't provide us with a ton of opportunities for great wins, so we have to play well when we have great opportunities.

As for bad losses, the loss @ Duquesne I mentioned earlier definitely ranks up there. Also losses @ Cincinnati and at home to Bucknell don't look great. And depending on how picky you are, maybe our loss @ St. Joseph's. As we stand right now, we are at 18-7, and 8-3 in the A-10. I would like to think that if we win out, we'd be at 13-3, 23-7 overall, heading into our conference tournament, not to mention an Atlantic 10 regular season championship. I would like to think that's enough for an at-large bid; but with our league being the way it is, I can't be certain....

Good luck :thumbsup I have a soft spot for Xavier. I remember being 9 or so at a family friend's house and the only thing on TV was Xavier vs #1 Cincinatti. I'm pretty sure that's the first college game I ever saw. I remember loving the fans rushing the court and stuff. Pretty cool memory for me.

I'll for sure be rooting for Xavier in the A-10 tourney.

justinandimcool

02-17-2007, 04:19 PM

And CBS showed me the last minute of the Vandy game. Always awesome to see. I think Vandy is a lock for sure now eh?

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 04:20 PM

Haven't played since last weekend's drubbing of George Washington in DC. 6:00 game tonight vs. Richmond. Playing great basketball; since a horrible 93-91 loss in Pittsburgh to Duquesne, the Muskies have reeled off three straight wins over Charlotte, St. Louis, and GW, by an average of 27.3 points per game. Hopefully this game vs. the 6-18 Spiders tonight continues that trend.

For resume-building wins, I would go with Villanova, Illinois, and Kansas St. all on neutral courts; then the @ GW last weekend on national TV was very big for us, as well as a home win vs. UMass last month. As you all know, the Atlantic 10 doesn't provide us with a ton of opportunities for great wins, so we have to play well when we have great opportunities.

As for bad losses, the loss @ Duquesne I mentioned earlier definitely ranks up there. Also losses @ Cincinnati and at home to Bucknell don't look great. And depending on how picky you are, maybe our loss @ St. Joseph's. As we stand right now, we are at 18-7, and 8-3 in the A-10. I would like to think that if we win out, we'd be at 13-3, 23-7 overall, heading into our conference tournament, not to mention an Atlantic 10 regular season championship. I would like to think that's enough for an at-large bid; but with our league being the way it is, I can't be certain....

Damn, I'm sorry all. I'm quoting myself, which is grounds for stoning, I know. But I forgot to add in that a win on a neutral court vs. Virginia Commonwealth is also a good resume win for Xavier. Apologies for committing this mortal sin....

EDIT: This was my 900th post, and it was quoting myself. Man I suck at life

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 04:22 PM

And CBS showed me the last minute of the Vandy game. Always awesome to see. I think Vandy is a lock for sure now eh?

Barring a complete collapse, they have to be "In." But I'm still not sold on them in terms of going far in the tournament. It'll depend who's in their pod; but definitely "In" the field of 65....

willthethrill

02-17-2007, 04:58 PM

we got a new #1 :)
Would you really? I mean, there's not really anybody playing so much better than everybody else. If anybody, I'd put Wisconsin the way they're playing currently.

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 05:06 PM

So Coach Lickliter, head coach at Butler, has taken off his suit jacket with 18:52 left in the first half. That's my kind of coach....

unccrombie

02-17-2007, 05:07 PM

Would you really? I mean, there's not really anybody playing so much better than everybody else. If anybody, I'd put Wisconsin the way they're playing currently.
the past couple games florida has been close to being beaten, i wouldnt say there legs ahead of everybody

willthethrill

02-17-2007, 05:19 PM

the past couple games florida has been close to being beaten, i wouldnt say there legs ahead of everybody
I wouldn't either, but is there a clear #1 ahead of them? Probably not, although the way the polls work, they'll probably be below OSU and UW if everything is normal this weekend.

UNLTrpt

02-17-2007, 06:27 PM

here we go again :rolleyes

unccrombie

02-17-2007, 06:49 PM

I wouldn't either, but is there a clear #1 ahead of them? Probably not, although the way the polls work, they'll probably be below OSU and UW if everything is normal this weekend.
listen, FLA is going to get a #1 seed, however they lost, and judging by how they played today and the past couple of games it was something along the lines of what happened to UNC. they deserve to fall

UNLTrpt

02-17-2007, 07:14 PM

here we go again :rolleyes

christ almighty.

are you serious? this might be worse than the first loss.

UNLTrpt

02-17-2007, 07:18 PM

2 combined losses to KU

KU - 176
NU - 95

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 07:52 PM

2 combined losses to KU

KU - 176
NU - 95

When I saw your first post, I kind of ignored it, didn't think it was that big of a deal. But I just looked at the results so far today; seriously, this is the kind of score it is when "North Carolina plays Savannah St. in the first game of the year" kind of score. That's awful. And this Nebraska team has some decent wins, but wow, that's bad....

dmb71687

02-17-2007, 08:08 PM

Potential #1 vs #2 in the country game next Saturday...

God I can't wait!!

UNLTrpt

02-17-2007, 08:23 PM

When I saw your first post, I kind of ignored it, didn't think it was that big of a deal. But I just looked at the results so far today; seriously, this is the kind of score it is when "North Carolina plays Savannah St. in the first game of the year" kind of score. That's awful. And this Nebraska team has some decent wins, but wow, that's bad....

:lol thats funny that you said Savannah State because we've played them this year. 81-53 Nebraska.

I don't know if it looks worse to Nebraska or the people who have lost to Nebraska that are decent teams (Creighton, TTech, KSUcks)

We just don't have anybody right now. We're so depleted. We had a transfer before conference started. We had a suspension a week ago that will last the rest of the year. Not that those two would have made one iota of difference in this KU game but thats what we've been up against. Oh yeah, a bare cupboard for Doc to work with.

He'll get it going but it just shows you how far Nebraska is back in the Big 12 race.

mizzoudmbfan

02-17-2007, 08:39 PM

2 combined losses to KU

KU - 176
NU - 95

A 'Sker fan came over the Tigerboard and moaned about Self leaving in starters and running up the score. Needless to say Missouri and kansas fans were equally quick to point out the irony of a NU fan complaining about a score being run up.

edit: I'm not saying you were complaining.

GavMan33

02-17-2007, 09:11 PM

:lol thats funny that you said Savannah State because we've played them this year. 81-53 Nebraska.

I don't know if it looks worse to Nebraska or the people who have lost to Nebraska that are decent teams (Creighton, TTech, KSUcks)

We just don't have anybody right now. We're so depleted. We had a transfer before conference started. We had a suspension a week ago that will last the rest of the year. Not that those two would have made one iota of difference in this KU game but thats what we've been up against. Oh yeah, a bare cupboard for Doc to work with.

He'll get it going but it just shows you how far Nebraska is back in the Big 12 race.

Yeah, I imagine it's safe to say there will be no Big XII title for the Cornhuskers this season.

Meanwhile, Xavier just completed an ugly, awful, 71-50 win over Richmond. Thank Goodness they don't have to play them again. There were like 50+ fouls called in this game, and Xavier was 33-43 from the FT line. That's a lot of free throws. Onward, we have Rhode Island at home on Wednesday night. We are tied with them for 1st place in the A-10, so a 'W' would give us sole possession of first.

69-69 in Spokane, 54.3 seconds left....

chiznaz

02-17-2007, 11:22 PM

Solid win for A&M today.

I don't know if anyone was just watching the Baylor vs t.u. game, but texas friggin giftwrapped that one for baylor, and baylor still couldn't win. And that's why they are baylor.

justinandimcool

02-18-2007, 12:23 AM

What an amazing day for college basketball.

UNLTrpt

02-18-2007, 12:44 AM

A 'Sker fan came over the Tigerboard and moaned about Self leaving in starters and running up the score. Needless to say Missouri and kansas fans were equally quick to point out the irony of a NU fan complaining about a score being run up.

edit: I'm not saying you were complaining.

I know you aren't but there is a big difference to what some people deem running up the score and what the NU football team did. Our 2nd and 3rd team were better than a LOT of the Big 8's 1st team. And shit its not like we were throwing all over the place or doing anything fancy. But you're right, NU fan needs to shut his hole.

UNLTrpt

02-18-2007, 12:47 AM

Yeah, I imagine it's safe to say there will be no Big XII title for the Cornhuskers this season.

nobody expected there to be one, but no there won't be one. Nebraska has one of the longest stretches between last regular season titles...if I remember correctly.

thehoss

02-18-2007, 01:02 AM

You're lookin at him. Big Ten 3-seed La Salle Institute knocks off Big Ten 1-seed and defending state champion Schenectady, 52-49. Granted, they had lost McKrieth from the year before, but still, they were a very good squad (I think they went 15-1 in the Big Ten that season; beat us twice, 66-60, and 49-48.) So we knew we could play with them, and we played a great game. Unfortunately, we were beaten down at UAlbany in the Sectional Final to Troy, who was led by then-freshman Tiki Mayben (now a redshirt freshman at UMass). How bout that trip down memory lane? lol

haha, nooo shit. good stuff, man. this is why i love my city so much, you got your msg, you got all the big arenas and d-1 college basketball schools who get to see games religiously. glens falls is 3 hours from nyc, and 3 1/2 from cuse, so pretty much the easiest access to live basketball is high school. we get the states AND federation tournys every year in march, to go right along with march madness, its seriously the best month in the gf. ive seen sooo many d-1 bound guys, and many who have turned into some great nba athletes (marbury, telfair, ben gordon) everyone knows the real ball is played at the class AA, class A levels, but god damn, some of the greatest high school basketball games ive ever seen have come from the class c level. they are small schools with very little to pool from, yet always have the most fight in them. this is what puts us on the map(other than the halloween phish show where they played the whole white album :monkey )

GavMan33

02-18-2007, 01:14 AM

haha, nooo shit. good stuff, man. this is why i love my city so much, you got your msg, you got all the big arenas and d-1 college basketball schools who get to see games religiously. glens falls is 3 hours from nyc, and 3 1/2 from cuse, so pretty much the easiest access to live basketball is high school. we get the states AND federation tournys every year in march, to go right along with march madness, its seriously the best month in the gf. ive seen sooo many d-1 bound guys, and many who have turned into some great nba athletes (marbury, telfair, ben gordon) everyone knows the real ball is played at the class AA, class A levels, but god damn, some of the greatest high school basketball games ive ever seen have come from the class c level. they are small schools with very little to pool from, yet always have the most fight in them. this is what puts us on the map(other than the halloween phish show where they played the whole white album :monkey )

Man, you are somethin brotherman. We will definitely have to hook up in Glens Falls for a brew and some good State Championship hoop. I am coaching at La Salle, but the chances that we are playing in Glens Falls in the State Tournament are about as good as Baylor's chances of winning the Big XII Tournament are :lol (Not a shot at my team, just a realization of what I expect.) You do also have to promise that if we make it up there for the Section II Class AA Semis, you will come out for the game :lol

GavMan33

02-18-2007, 01:22 AM

What an amazing day for college basketball.

Hey, this is what it's all about. You can say I have a sad life if you want, but I've been on the couch all day, watching hoop. I think I've gotten up 3 times since noon. I got my laptop here to do a little "research", and the TV right here, flipping between ESPN and ESPN2 all day long.

As for this last game, between Drexel and Creighton, I was unsure of who to root for. With a Creighton win, it makes Xavier's loss at Creighton earlier look better. But I have been keep a close eye on Drexel for the last few weeks; they have shown they are obviously capable of winning big games, showing that @ Cuse and @ Nova. So they have been on my "at-large radar", even though they are currrently in 4th place in the CAA. They showed it again tonight @ Creighton. But they made me crazy. If you're gonna be able to trust a low-seeded team on your NCAA bracket, you need to trust that they will make their FTs. And Drexel did an awful job of making them at the end of this game. One other point on this game. I know Nate Funk is probably their best player (he and Tolliver are without a doubt their best two). But did it seem like he forced quite a lot of shots early in the shot clock tonight? Just an observation....

seekupig

02-18-2007, 01:28 AM

2 combined losses to KU

KU - 176
NU - 95

:lol :lol :lol

that's just payback for the football beatings we take.....

seekupig

02-18-2007, 01:35 AM

so, Kansas hasn't lost at KSU since 1983, anyone else think that it changes this year? i'm actually worried about this game....

GavMan33

02-18-2007, 01:41 AM

so, Kansas hasn't lost at KSU since 1983, anyone else think that it changes this year? i'm actually worried about this game....

I'll take you on. A Kansas St. win over Kansas (even if it's at home) would do wonders for Xavier, who came away victorious vs. KSU in Cincinnati.

PS-Where are all the ACC fellas at tonight? I thought they'd be all over here tonight talking about the big Carolina victory in Boston tonight....

GavMan33

02-18-2007, 02:18 AM

So I was sitting at the dinner table with my dad a few weeks ago, and the Syracuse @ Louisville game had just tipped off. Now my Dad and I both hate Cuse (I get it from my Dad, and whoever asked, I promise I'll come up with an explanation for you, I promise). So anyway, Dad asked me if Louisville had any shot. Now I guess the only thing I knew about Louisville at the time was that they had lost @ Dayton and at home to UMass, so I figured they were not very good. So I looked at him with a long face, and told him that Louisville didn't have much of a chance in this game. Two hours later, we were toasting a 76-71 Cardinal victory, and I started to take notice.

Now, three short weeks later, I am proclaiming them "In". A week after HUGE road wins @ Pittsburgh and @ Marquette, they have to be. They have moved to 9-4 in the Big East, and 19-8 overall. Maybe this isn't as shocking to someone that knew who they were coming in (I think they're very young), but I am here to call myself out, and say I was 100% wrong. Say what you will about maybe Pitt not being as good as advertised, or Marquette, the Big East, whatever you wanna say. But to play that brutal Big East schedule that every team there plays, and to move through it the way they have, is pretty remarkable. So props to Coach Pitino and his ballclub, and here's your ticket to come dancing in March....

GavMan33

02-18-2007, 02:41 AM

I promised myself the Louisville one would be my last one for the evening, but I was looking through the Big East, and I want to write something about UC.

Last season, Cincinnati was coached by interim head coach Andy Kennedy, former Associate Head Coach to Bob Huggins, and current head coach at Ole Miss. But you read that right; all year long, the jerks at UC had him as interim head coach all year, and never took the "interim" off his title. UC was expected to be worse than they were, and Kennedy was in a no-win situation. UC, by keeping that interim tag on him all year, made it clear that they were not going to give him the job, no matter how well he did. And the city