Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[justinandimcool]

Hey I admitted that I didn't make an intelligent pick...I just went with my gut.


Too bad my gut is usually wrong!


Fuck you man. Wasn't it you that whipped us all in the 2005 march madness pool? :lol Your gut can't be THAT bad. :)

[clayj41]

Hey, Chris Paul can ball. But that's the problem with 90% of the NBA teams. They rely on one guy. I just got sick of it (yes, I got sick of Kobe).

And I'd love to see this Santa Clara team in the tourney. These guys know their offense and run it beautifully.

There are no TEAMS in the NBA. Just franchises (with franchise players of course).


Both this St Mary's team and Santa Clara are really good. Even if the winner of this game loses to Gonzaga in the championship game, they SHOULD make the tournament.

[dreamingtreeIU]

does anyone have a link to a good printable big ten tourney bracket....... i just printed one out about 15 min ago and i have no idea where i got it, i thought off of here but i cant find it

[clayj41]

Fuck you man. Wasn't it you that whipped us all in the 2005 march madness pool? :lol Your gut can't be THAT bad. :)

I dominated the '05 tourney pool!

I didn't do so well last year though. I was in the middle somewhere...:shrug

[justinandimcool]

does anyone have a link to a good printable big ten tourney bracket....... i just printed one out about 15 min ago and i have no idea where i got it, i thought off of here but i cant find it

I'll look for one tomorrow. There are 5 brackets I can't find a good pdf of: Pac 10, Big 10, Big West, MEAC, and SWAC.

Yes I print all the brackets. Told you this was unhealthy.

[clayj41]

does anyone have a link to a good printable big ten tourney bracket....... i just printed one out about 15 min ago and i have no idea where i got it, i thought off of here but i cant find it

Here's one from wikipedia, but it doesn't have the teams on it so it's probably not what you're looking for.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/big10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/mbasketball-2007tourney.pdf

Did you try the official big ten website? I'm too lazy to look.

[justinandimcool]

There are no TEAMS in the NBA. Just franchises (with franchise players of course).


Both this St Mary's team and Santa Clara are really good. Even if the winner of this game loses to Gonzaga in the championship game, they SHOULD make the tournament.

Eh, I can think of 4 teams in the NBA worthy of my time. Maybe 5 or 6. Doesn't matter though :)

Looks like Santa Clara takes this one. Go Broncos tomorrow!!!

[clayj41]

I'll look for one tomorrow. There are 5 brackets I can't find a good pdf of: Pac 10, Big 10, Big West, MEAC, and SWAC.

Yes I print all the brackets. Told you this was unhealthy.

Don't worry, you're one of us now.:)

[dreamingtreeIU]

yea i got it off the big ten site, im so tired im workin on about 5% brainpower here

[justinandimcool]

Here's one from wikipedia, but it doesn't have the teams on it so it's probably not what you're looking for.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/big10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/mbasketball-2007tourney.pdf

Did you try the official big ten website? I'm too lazy to look.

Yep there are no teams on em. They'll probably be up tomorrow.

If not I'll just have to :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek write them in pen.

[clayj41]

Eh, I can think of 4 teams in the NBA worthy of my time. Maybe 5 or 6. Doesn't matter though :)

Looks like Santa Clara takes this one. Go Broncos tomorrow!!!

There are some "teams" to watch in the NBA, but even those teams revolve around one marquee player. The Suns are really the exception, and thus my favorite team to watch.

I'll be rooting for the Zags tomorrow...I always find myself rooting for them.

[justinandimcool]

Don't worry, you're one of us now.:)

I love it. I can't wait til next season so I can actually talk PRESEASON with you guys :lol

[clayj41]

yea i got it off the big ten site, im so tired im workin on about 5% brainpower here

I feel ya! It's late here in B-Town.

[clayj41]

I love it. I can't wait til next season so I can actually talk PRESEASON with you guys :lol

I remember last year when I invited you to join the ESPN pool and you were kinda skeptical. There won't be any of that this year! You'll probably dominate all of us. Come to think of it...didn't you do rather well last year?

[dreamingtreeIU]

I feel ya! It's late here in B-Town.



yes, yes it is

[justinandimcool]

There are some "teams" to watch in the NBA, but even those teams revolve around one marquee player. The Suns are really the exception, and thus my favorite team to watch.

I'll be rooting for the Zags tomorrow...I always find myself rooting for them.

Eh, I'm just hoping for a great game. I know Zaga is a great team and should be in the tourney, but this Santa Clara team is fun to watch as well. I'm open to the idea of a new WCC champ :)

[clayj41]

Eh, I'm just hoping for a great game. I know Zaga is a great team and should be in the tourney, but this Santa Clara team is fun to watch as well. I'm open to the idea of a new WCC champ :)

:thumbsup The Zags have dominated the conference for awhile

This is eerily similar to the Duke-UNC game!:eek

[dreamingtreeIU]

ehh.... not as good of quality of ball in this game.......

anyway im goin to bed in hopes of waking up to dates tomorrow am

[justinandimcool]

I remember last year when I invited you to join the ESPN pool and you were kinda skeptical. There won't be any of that this year! You'll probably dominate all of us. Come to think of it...didn't you do rather well last year?


I totally forgot how I did. I don't think I cared about my brackets last year after George Mason and Bradley fucked it up two rounds in :lol I remember picking BC, Duke, UCONN and I think Memphis as my final four. SO YEAH, I didn't fare that well.


But I didn't follow the regular season or the conference tourneys at all back then. This year, you all die.

[justinandimcool]

:thumbsup The Zags have dominated the conference for awhile

This is eerily similar to the Duke-UNC game!:eek


Cmon, Saint Mary's is way better than Duke!

[clayj41]

ehh.... not as good of quality of ball in this game.......

anyway im goin to bed in hopes of waking up to dates tomorrow am

Don't hold your breath!


I totally forgot how I did. I don't think I cared about my brackets last year after George Mason and Bradley fucked it up two rounds in :lol I remember picking BC, Duke, UCONN and I think Memphis as my final four. SO YEAH, I didn't fare that well.


But I didn't follow the regular season or the conference tourneys at all back then. This year, you all die.

Yeah, but everyone's bracket was screwed up by teams like George Mason and Bradley last year. I know with 100% certainty that no one in our pool had Florida winning it all.

Cmon, Saint Mary's is way better than Duke!

Maybe not better, but definitely classier.

[justinandimcool]

Yeah, but everyone's bracket was screwed up by teams like George Mason and Bradley last year. I know with 100% certainty that no one in our pool had Florida winning it all.



Maybe not better, but definitely classier.

Yeah but I remember going 0/4 in my final four and 2/8 or something in my elite 8. So I'm sure I didn't place well at all :lol Now I wonder who won the Ants pool. :confused


:thumbsup I don't like Duke's attitude and body language on the court either this year. They seem so vulnerable and confused...or something. Kinda hard to explain. I feel they play too soft.

[justinandimcool]

Alright. School tomorrow. Good night fellas <3

For those who haven't, make your picks when you have time! Pre-tourney bragging rights on the line!

I hope you got my PM Bry.

[clayj41]

Alright. School tomorrow. Good night fellas <3

For those who haven't, make your picks when you have time! Pre-tourney bragging rights on the line!

I hope you got my PM Bry.

Later Justin! I'm gonna go to bed myself shortly...

[UNC41]

Alright. School tomorrow. Good night fellas <3

For those who haven't, make your picks when you have time! Pre-tourney bragging rights on the line!

I hope you got my PM Bry.

Got it and replied. I'll post my bracket today.

[GavMan33]

OK, just for the record, I hate the SEC. But because I'm gonna get all hell if I don't, here are picks for the SEC Tourney....

SEC Tournament

(E4) Kentucky defeats (W5) Alabama
(W3) Arkansas defeats (E6) South Carolina
(E5) Georgia defeats (W4) Auburn
(E3) Tennessee defeats (W6) LSU

(E4) Kentucky defeats (W1) Mississippi St.
(E2) Vanderbilt defeats (W3) Arkansas
(E1) Florida defeats (E5) Georgia
(E3) Tennessee defeats (W2) Ole Miss

(E2) Vanderbilt defeats (E4) Kentucky
(E3) Tennessee defeats (E1) Florida

(E3) Tennessee defeats (E2) Vanderbilt

SEC Champ: TENNESSEE

[UNC41]

I'm gonna do it.

On another note, in seeing a replay of the Henderson elbow today, I now feel it was intentional...:o

So Hansbrough's nose is broken. Not only that but he has to have a root canal once the season is over for something that happened to his teeth earlier in the game. What a beast.

I'm clearly seeing the intent too, Clay. I rewatched about 4 minutes of the CBS footage and it looks intentional. I wanted to give Henderson the benefit of the doubt because he's tight with Ellington (and other Tar Heels from what I've read), but can't.

Billy Packer's reaction was horrid. He went on and on about poor Henderson. OMG, he might have to miss a game after throwing an elbow. And finally when Nantz brought up whether or not Hansbrough would be ok, Packer said, "I agree, Jim," and then went back to defending Henderson immedietly.

[willthethrill]

I'll do my brackets soon.

I just saw the article too Bryan. Sucks that he's gonna wear a mask, I really hope that doesn't affect his play.

[UNC41]

Durant is named Big 12 POY, FOY and to the All-Defensive Team.

http://www.big12sports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030407aac.html

[dmb71687]

Does anyone want to explain why the hell Florida got put back into a #1 seed in the latest bracketology?

That thing seems to be getting worse and worse..

[unccrombie]

Does anyone want to explain why the hell Florida got put back into a #1 seed in the latest bracketology?

That thing seems to be getting worse and worse..
they beat UK of course :lol

[UNC41]

I'm not Jim Rome's biggest fan, but love him today. Here are some excerpts I pulled from another board on him ripping dook.

"Coach K said that the game was over and the starters shouldn't have been in. Then why did you call a timeout with :50 left? Because the game wasn't over, and that's why Roy Williams had his guy in."


"Your program is down, your team isn't what it once was, and Carolina rolled you up, again. You need to own that."

"Coach K said that Gerald is not that guy and they are not that kind of program - CLEARLY YOU ARE, clearly you are"

"You admitted as much, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth."

"This had a lot more to do with the fact that you got rolled up again, and your a 7 seed in the tournament"

email

"Dear Jim,

I don't think Henderson did anything wrong.

Signed,

John Cheney"

"what are guys rebounding with their elbows now? I must have missed this in basketball 101a."

"reports now are Tyler Hansbrough does have a broken nose. yeah, that'll happen when I guy comes after you with a fully loaded elbow. and it does, and it did"

"Dear Jim,
I can't believe you don't believe Duke basketball program is no longer among the elite.

Signed
University of Nebraska Football Program"

[clayj41]

So Hansbrough's nose is broken. Not only that but he has to have a root canal once the season is over for something that happened to his teeth earlier in the game. What a beast.

I'm clearly seeing the intent too, Clay. I rewatched about 4 minutes of the CBS footage and it looks intentional. I wanted to give Henderson the benefit of the doubt because he's tight with Ellington (and other Tar Heels from what I've read), but can't.

Billy Packer's reaction was horrid. He went on and on about poor Henderson. OMG, he might have to miss a game after throwing an elbow. And finally when Nantz brought up whether or not Hansbrough would be ok, Packer said, "I agree, Jim," and then went back to defending Henderson immedietly.

Yeah, I definitely feel as though Bill Packer's comments may have influenced my initial opinion. I just really wanted to believe that Coach K (who I respect) would not lower himself to that level. Really sucks that Hansbrough has a broken nose, but he's a warrior so I'm not too concerned.

Also I love those Jim Rome comments you posted. I'm not a big fan of his either, but he hit the nail directly on the head.

I've been wearing my Hansbrough jersey on campus today. So many people have come up to me and commented on how big a badass they think he is.:lol

[unccrombie]

anyone see the new uniforms from the other thread? thoughts?

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=187851

[clayj41]

anyone see the new uniforms from the other thread? thoughts?

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=187851

Those are some of the stupidest things I've ever seen...

[clayj41]

This Pat Forde article is an interesting read...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2787890&sportCat=ncb&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

[UNC41]

Jeff Goodman is a fucking idiot.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6530562

[clayj41]

Jeff Goodman is a fucking idiot.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6530562

That implies that if you're a physical player you shouldn't be surprised when you get popped in the face. What a dumbass!

There's also a link on that page to a blog where people have been voicing their opinions about the incident.

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/BlogJam/2007/03/05/DukeUNC_the_new_Fight_Club

[UNC41]

That implies that if you're a physical player you shouldn't be surprised when you get popped in the face. What a dumbass!

Exactly. It's like saying a girl deserves to get raped for dressing like a whore. So idiotic.

[clayj41]

Exactly. It's like saying a girl deserves to get raped for dressing like a whore. So idiotic.

They're very analogous. Just because a guys plays with great instinct and a lot of heart doesn't mean that he should have to fear for his physical well being every time he walks on the court.

[clayj41]

Well, I was bored so I filled out the bracketology bracket as if it was the real thing. My Final Four ended up being Texas A&M, Georgetown, Florida, and Kansas...

[HolyCow]

You know, I watched the replay probably 50 times and I don't think Gerald Henderson did it on purpose. It really looks like he is going to extend his hand to block the shot, but it is swatted away so he pulls his arm back and the elbow hits Tyler.

So, I don't think Gerald Henderson really messed up.


Crucify me if you will, but that is how I saw it.

[clayj41]

You know, I watched the replay probably 50 times and I don't think Gerald Henderson did it on purpose. It really looks like he is going to extend his hand to block the shot, but it is swatted away so he pulls his arm back and the elbow hits Tyler.

So, I don't think Gerald Henderson really messed up.


Crucify me if you will, but that is how I saw it.

I agree that he didn't intend to hurt Hansbrough, but he did have the intent of committing a hard foul when he left his feet. As hard as he may have tried to stop from doing so, his momentum in addition to Tyler getting pushed forward led to the incident.

[HolyCow]

I agree that he didn't intend to hurt Hansbrough, but he did have the intent of committing a hard foul when he left his feet. As hard as he may have tried to stop from doing so, his momentum in addition to Tyler getting pushed forward led to the incident.
:thumbsup
No doubt he was going up for a hard foul/a hard block. The play wasn't "clean" persay, but it wasn't dirty in my eyes.

If that makes sense.

[dmb71687]

You know, I watched the replay probably 50 times and I don't think Gerald Henderson did it on purpose. It really looks like he is going to extend his hand to block the shot, but it is swatted away so he pulls his arm back and the elbow hits Tyler.

So, I don't think Gerald Henderson really messed up.


Crucify me if you will, but that is how I saw it.

Completely agree, it's basketball, sports are physical, people DO get elbows in the nose, it's not the end of the world. I can't even see how people are making a case that it was intentional, that's just whining to whine IMO because you hate Duke. This play looked FAR less intentional than the Kobe Bryant elbow, and that was a joke by itself.

[bubba40]

From Stewart Mandel @ si.com:

• Outside of UCLA and Ohio State, the race for the No. 1 seeds could remain very fluid right up until Sunday. Right now I have Kansas and Wisconsin just ahead of North Carolina and Florida, but if either the Jayhawks or Badgers stumble prior to their tourney finals, the Heels or Gators could easily pass them. Note, however, that due to time constraints, the committee has to mostly wrap up the seeding process prior to Sunday's conference-title games, so whether or not the teams involved actually win championships might not have an impact.
• Texas A&M and Georgetown will be hard-pressed to reach the top line, but I don't see them slipping below a second seed, either. There's a noticeable difference between them and the teams currently on the three line.

[HolyCow]

Completely agree, it's basketball, sports are physical, people DO get elbows in the nose, it's not the end of the world. I can't even see how people are making a case that it was intentional, that's just whining to whine IMO because you hate Duke. This play looked FAR less intentional than the Kobe Bryant elbow, and that was a joke by itself.
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Dead on.

[DMBnick15]

henderson should be suspended for more than 1 game.
Is it necassary to go up that hard with 14 seconds left if the game "was over"? that is a perfect example of dook getting pissed because they just figured out that they suck now that jj is gone. have fun in the tourney dook.

[chiznaz]

Durant is named Big 12 POY, FOY and to the All-Defensive Team.

http://www.big12sports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030407aac.html

Yeah it sucked seeing that, but I guess I can't complain with BCG getting COY over Barnes. IMO I think Law should have gotten BigXII POY and barnes get COY.

[seekupig]

henderson should be suspended for more than 1 game.
Is it necassary to go up that hard with 14 seconds left if the game "was over"? that is a perfect example of dook getting pissed because they just figured out that they suck now that jj is gone. have fun in the tourney dook.

no, he shouldn't. one game is the norm for being ejected for that kind of foul. it shouldn't be worse just because it was a Duke player fouling a Tar Heel......

[seekupig]

IMO I think Law should have gotten BigXII POY.

if it was an MVP award, i'd agree with you. but Player of the Year is different that Most Valuable Player.

[willthethrill]

henderson should be suspended for more than 1 game.
Is it necassary to go up that hard with 14 seconds left if the game "was over"? that is a perfect example of dook getting pissed because they just figured out that they suck now that jj is gone. have fun in the tourney dook.
Easy man, you're sounding a little non-objective.

[UNLTrpt]

I predict OSU getting their first true road win of the year tonight.

oh look, they're playing nebraska.

[willthethrill]

All-ACC selections
http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030507aaq.html


Ok, here's my picks.

ACC Tournament

(8) Clemson defeats (9) FSU
(5) Maryland defeats (12) Miami (FL)
(7) Duke defeats (10) NC State
(6) GA Tech defeats (11) Wake Forest

(1) North Carolina defeats (8) Clemson
(5) Maryland defeats (4) Boston College
(2) Virginia defeats (7) Duke
(6) Georgia Tech defeats (3) VA Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (5) Maryland
(6) Georgia Tech defeats (2) Virginia

(1) North Carolina defeats (6) Georgia Tech

ACC Champ: NORTH CAROLINA

Big XII Tournament

(8) Iowa St. defeats (9) Oklahoma
(5) Texas Tech defeats (12) Colorado
(7) Oklahoma St. defeats (10) Nebraska
(6) Missouri defeats (6) Baylor

(1) Kansas defeats (8) Iowa St.
(5) Texas Tech defeats (4) Kansas St.
(2) Texas A&M defeats (7) OK St.
(3) Texas defeats (6) Missouri

(1) Kansas defeats (5) Texas Tech
(2) Texas A&M defeats (3) Texas

(1) Kansas defeats (2) Texas A&M

Big XII Champ: KANSAS

Big East Championship

(9) Villanova defeats (8) Depaul
(5) Syracuse defeats (12) UConn
(10) Providence defeats (7) West Virginia
(6) Marquette defeats (11) St. John's

(1) Georgetown defeats (9) Villanova
(4) Notre Dame defeats (5) Syracuse
(2) Louisville defeats (10) Providence
(3) Pittsburgh defeats (6) Marquette

(1) Georgetown defeats (5) Syracuse
(3) Pittsburgh defeats (2) Louisville

(1) Georgetown defeats (3) Pittsburgh

Big East Champ: GEORGETOWN

PAC-10 Championship

(8) California defeats (9) Oregon St.
(7) Washington defeats (10) Arizona St.

(1) UCLA defeats (9) Oregon St.
(4) Oregon defeats (5) Arizona
(3) USC defeats (6) Stanford
(2) Washington St. defeats (7) Washington

(1) UCLA defeats (4) Oregon
(2) Washington St. defeats (3) USC (sorry Justin)

(1) UCLA defeats (2) Washington St.

PAC-10 Champ: UCLA

Big Ten Championship

(8) Michigan defeats (9) Minnesota
(7) Michigan St. defeats (10) Northwestern
(6) Illinois defeats (11) Penn St.

(1) OSU defeats (8) Michigan
(4) Iowa defeats (5) Purdue
(2) Wisconsin defeats (7) MSU
(3) Indiana defeats (6) Illinois

(1) OSU defeats (4) Iowa
(2) Wisconsin defeats (3) Indiana

(2) Wisconsin defeats (1) OSU

Big Ten Champ: WISCONSIN GETS REVENGE

Atlantic 10 Championship

(8) Dayton defeats (9) UNC-Charlotte
(5) Fordham defeats (12) Richmond
(7) St. Louis defeats (10) Duquesne
(6) St. Joseph's defeats (11) Temple

(1) Xavier defeats (8) Dayton
(5) Fordham defeats (4) Rhode Island
(2) Massachusetts defeats (7) St. Louis (why are they in the ATLANTIC 10?)
(3) George Washington defeats (6) St. Joseph's

(1) Xavier defeats (5) Fordham
(2) UMass defeats (3) George Washington

(1) Xavier defeats (2) UMass

Atlantic 10 Champ: XAVIER

SEC Championship

(4) Kentucky defeats (5) Alabama
(3) Arkansas defeats (6) South Carolina
(4) Auburn defeats (5) Georgia
(3) Tennessee defeats (6) LSU

(4) Kentucky defeats (1) Miss. St
(2) Vanderbilt defeats (3) Arkansas
(1) Florida defeats (4) Auburn
(3) Tennessee defeats (2) Ole Miss

(2) Vanderbilt defeats (4) Kentucky
(1) Florida defeats (3) Tennessee

(2) Vanderbilt defeats (1) Florida

SEC CHAMP: VANDERBILT?


5 #1 seeds. I'm such a pussy.

[willthethrill]

I predict OSU getting their first true road win of the year tonight.

oh look, they're playing nebraska.
Weird, they're playing after the Big 12 selections were made and, is this the last major conference game of the year? Awkward.

[justinandimcool]

antsmarching.org Championship Week Challenge!

Everyone's welcome to play, so please participate, especially you regulars on here. Four of us have made our picks already, so backread to page 525, copy and paste and make your picks and post em.
Ultimate prize: bragging rights and the glory of bringing fear into the eyes of your opponents when the NCAA pool rolls around :)

After contemplating with Bryan and myself here are the rules:

Make picks for every game using the example we have posted on page 525 by 11amET Wednesday.

Make picks for these conferences: Atlantic-10, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, Pac-10, and SEC.

Since most of us probably don't know alot about the Atlantic-10, it will be used as a TIEBREAK IF ANY OF US ARE TIED AT THE END OF THE WEEK. (sorry Bob, we gotta be as fair as possible :))

So, here's the point system:

First Round games: 1 point
Second Round games: 2 points
Semifinal games: 4 points
Final games: 8 points

UPSETS: If a lower seed you selected wins their game, you get bonus points to be determined by the deficit of the lower team's seed from the higher seed. (example: 9 seed FSU defeats 8 seed Clemson you get 1 additional point. 10 seed NC State defeats 1 seed UNC, you get 9 additional points.)

****unofficial rule, tell me if you agree or not****:
BLOWOUTS: For the sake of getting points, you get 4 additional points if your team wins by 20, and 1 bonus point for every additonal 5 points in the victory's margin. (Ex. Ohio State wins by 31, you get 6 bonus points: (20 + 5 + 5).

------------------------------------------------------------

Since I'm on the West Coast, I'll be in charge of the standings and everything else that goes along. I'll tally em up every night when yall are fast asleep and you'll have standings in the morning. I get home from school around 4:30 PT, so 7:30 ET so feel free to PM me for anything.


Thanks for being such a civil bunch, having great discussions in this thread, and for being such fun and worthwhile people to talk to. ENJOY THE MADNESS EVERYONE!

[justinandimcool]

Sorry I was late on that you guys, but yeah. Thanks Wil for making your picks. Everyone else, I'm not taking any submissions after 11ET Wednesday!

[justinandimcool]

George Mason's gonna fucking win this thing. God help us :lol

[clayj41]

I like the format Justin.

[DMBnick15]

you guys think kansas has a shot? i mean, yes they have a shot.. but will they choke?

[unccrombie]

gmu/vcu game is turning into a barn burner

[clayj41]

you guys think kansas has a shot? i mean, yes they have a shot.. but will they choke?

I personally think they're the best team in the country right now. Does that mean they won't choke...no, but they have as good a chance as anybody of winning it all.

[DMBnick15]

i like unc in the tournament. they come to play in big games. they do find a way to lose to not "easy" teams, but teams that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[SmoothD41]

ACC Tournament

(8) Clemson defeats (9) FSU
(5) Maryland defeats (12) Miami (FL)
(7) Duke defeats (10) NC State
(6) GA Tech defeats (11) Wake Forest

(1) North Carolina defeats (9) Florida St.
(5) Maryland defeats (4) Boston College
(7) Duke defeats (2) Virginia
(3) VA Tech defeats (6) GA Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (5) Maryland
(3) VA Tech defeats (7) Duke

(1) North Carolina defeats (3) VA Tech

ACC Champ: North Carolina

Big XII Tournament

(9) Oklahoma defeats (8) Iowa State
(5) Texas Tech defeats (12) Colorado
(7) Oklahoma St. defeats (10) Nebraska
(11) Baylor defeats (6) Missouri

(1) Kansas defeats (9) Oklahoma
(5) Texas Tech defeats (4) Kansas St.
(2) Texas A&M defeats (7) OK St.
(3) Texas defeats (11) Baylor

(1) Kansas defeats (5) Texas Tech
(3) Texas defeats (2) Texas A&M

(1) Kansas defeats (3) Texas

Big XII Champ: Kansas

Big East Championship

(9) Villanova defeats (8) Depaul
(12) UConn defeats (5) Syracuse
(7) West Virginia defeats (10) Providence
(6) Marquette defeats (11) St. John's

(1) Georgetown defeats (9) Villanova
(12) Uconn defeats (4) Notre Dame
(2) Louisville defeats (7) West Virginia
(3) Pittsburgh defeats (6) Marquette

(1) Georgetown defeats (12) UConn
(3) Pittsburgh defeats (2) Louisville

(1) Georgetown defeats (3) Pittsburgh

Big East Champ: Georgetown

PAC-10 Championship

(8) California defeats (9) Oregon St.
(7) Washington defeats (10) Arizona St.

(1) UCLA defeats (8) California
(5) Arizona defeats (4) Oregon
(6) Stanford defeats (3) USC
(2) Washington St. defeats (7) Washington

(1) UCLA defeats (5) Arizona
(2) Washington St. defeats (6) Stanford

(2) Washington St. defeats (1) UCLA

PAC-10 Champ: Washington St.

Big Ten Championship

(8) Michigan defeats (9) Minnesota
(7) Michigan St. defeats (10) Northwestern
(6) Illinois defeats (11) Penn St.

(1) Ohio State defeats (8) Michigan
(5) Iowa defeats (4) Purdue
(2) Wisconsin defeats (7) Michigan State
(3) Indiana defeats (6) Illinois

(1) Ohio State defeats (4) Iowa
(3) Indiana defeats (2) Wisconsin

(1) Ohio State defeats (3) Indiana

Big Ten Champ: Ohio State

Atlantic 10 Championship

(9) Charlotte defeats (8) Dayton
(5) Fordham defeats (12) Richmond
(7) St. Johns defeats (10) Dusquene
(6) St. Joseph's defeats (11) Temple

(1) Xavier defeats (9) Charlotte
(5) Fordham defeats (4) Rhode Island
(2) Massachusetts defeats (7) St. Johns
(3) George Washington defeats (6) St. Joseph's

(1) Xavier defeats (5) Fordham
(2) UMass defeats (3) George Washington

(1) Xavier defeats (2) UMass

Atlantic 10 Champ: Xavier

SEC Championship

(4) Kentucky defeats (5) Alabama
(3) Arkansas defeats (6) South Carolina
(4) Auburn defeats (5) Georgia
(3) Tennessee defeats (6) LSU

(1) Miss State defeats (4) Kentucky
(3) Arkansas defeats (2) Vanderbilt
(1) Florida defeats (4) Auburn
(3) Tennessee defeats (2) Ole Miss

(1) Miss State defeats (3) Arkansas
(3) Tennessee defeats (1) Florida

(3) Tennessee defeats (1) Miss State

SEC CHAMP: Tennessee

[HolyCow]

I predict OSU getting their first true road win of the year tonight.

oh look, they're playing nebraska.
:lol :lol :lol


Our OSU buddy really disappeared when his team did.

[willthethrill]

i like unc in the tournament. they come to play in big games. they do find a way to lose to not "easy" teams, but teams that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Well GT was a big game, would've been in the driver's seat for the conference title. VT was a big game, a chance for revenge. There will be teams just like these mid-good teams in the ACCs and NCAAs. I'm not yet convinced we can string 6 wins together.

And yes, Kansas is damn good, at least the way they're playing right now. Pending conference tourneys, they might be my pick to cut the nets.

[clayj41]

Well GT was a big game, would've been in the driver's seat for the conference title. VT was a big game, a chance for revenge. There will be teams just like these mid-good teams in the ACCs and NCAAs. I'm not yet convinced we can string 6 wins together.

And yes, Kansas is damn good, at least the way they're playing right now. Pending conference tourneys, they might be my pick to cut the nets.

The ACC tournament is gonna tell me a lot about UNC. If they're able to pull it out and play similar to like they did yesterday, they're as good as anybody.

[DMBnick15]

they were big games yes, but i think we both know that we showed up to play against duke and ohio state more than gt. it also is that for gt and vt can make or break their season if they win. so it's always going to be a bigger game for the opposing team in a situation like that.

[bubba40]

5 points in 11 seconds for VCU to tie it with a minute and a half left!

[clayj41]

5 points in 11 seconds for VCU to tie it with a minute and a half left!

Looks like they're gonna pull it out...sorry George Mason.

[chiznaz]

if it was an MVP award, i'd agree with you. but Player of the Year is different that Most Valuable Player.

I guess if ESPN and the media didn't suck him off so much, it would be easier for me to say that;)

[willthethrill]

they were big games yes, but i think we both know that we showed up to play against duke and ohio state more than gt. it also is that for gt and vt can make or break their season if they win. so it's always going to be a bigger game for the opposing team in a situation like that.
Regardless, there's no reason to shit the bed though. UNC is ALWAYS going to be an opponent's biggest game of the season, but there's a reason for that. We're supposed to have the talent and the coaching, so we should always be ready to play, and this season we have lacked that.

Granted, we played a great game yesterday, but that has happened many times this season followed by a "wtf?" game. Can't be overconfident with this team like you could with the '05 squad.

[willthethrill]

Looks like they're gonna pull it out...sorry George Mason.
Yup, good news for at-large teams, was VCU gonna get an at-large?

[justinandimcool]

muahaha. no George Mason to fuck up the brackets this year!

[clayj41]

Yup, good news for at-large teams, was VCU gonna get an at-large?

Most likely, but another Colonial team (Old Dominion) will most likely still get an at large bid.

[unccrombie]

muahaha. no George Mason to fuck up the brackets this year!
well literally, but i got my sleeper already

[clayj41]

muahaha. no George Mason to fuck up the brackets this year!

There will be a figurative "George Mason" in the tournament though. In fact I'm gonna start using it as a verb. Did you see Florida get George Masoned by VCU?:lol

[DMBnick15]

Regardless, there's no reason to shit the bed though. UNC is ALWAYS going to be an opponent's biggest game of the season, but there's a reason for that. We're supposed to have the talent and the coaching, so we should always be ready to play, and this season we have lacked that.

Granted, we played a great game yesterday, but that has happened many times this season followed by a "wtf?" game. Can't be overconfident with this team like you could with the '05 squad.


I agree with you totally. Let's just hope Roy gets the boys pumped up.

[UNLTrpt]

I guess if ESPN and the media didn't suck him off so much, it would be easier for me to say that;)

how is talking about one of the best players in the country sucking him off?

I just don't get it.

[41ravens]

ACC Tournament

(9) FSU defeats (8) Clemson
(5) Maryland defeats (12) Miami (FL)
(10) NC State defeats (7) Duke
(6) GA Tech defeats (11) Wake Forest

(1) North Carolina defeats (9) Florida St.
(5) Maryland defeats (4) Boston College
(2) Virginia defeats (7) Duke
(6) Georgia Tech defeats (3) VA Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (5) Maryland
(2) Virginia defeats (6) Georgia Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (2) Virginia

ACC Champ: NORTH CAROLINA

Big XII Tournament

(8) Iowa St. defeats (9) Oklahoma
(5) Texas Tech defeats (12) Colorado
(7) Oklahoma St. defeats (10) Nebraska
(11) Baylor defeats (6) Missouri

(1) Kansas defeats (8) Iowa St.
(4) Kansas St. defeats (5) Texas Tech
(2) Texas A&M defeats (7) OK St.
(3) Texas defeats (11) Baylor

(1) Kansas defeats (4) Kansas St.
(3) Texas defeats (2) Texas A&M

(3) Texas defeats (1) Kansas

Big XII Champ: TEXAS

Big East Championship

(9) Villanova defeats (8) Depaul
(5) Syracuse defeats (12) UConn
(10) Providence defeats (7) West Virginia
(6) Marquette defeats (11) St. John's

(1) Georgetown defeats (9) Villanova
(4) Notre Dame defeats (5) Syracuse
(2) Louisville defeats (10) Providence
(6) Marquette defeats (3) Pittsburgh

(1) Georgetown defeats (4) Notre Dame
(6) Marquette defeats (2) Louisville

(1) Georgetown defeats (6) Marquette

Big East Champ: GEORGETOWN

PAC-10 Championship

(9) Oregon St. defeats (8) Cal
(7) Washington defeats (10) Arizona St.

(1) UCLA defeats (9) Oregon St.
(5) Arizona defeats (4) Oregon
(3) USC defeats (6) Stanford
(2) Washington St. defeats (7) Washington

(5) Arizona defeats (1) UCLA
(2) Wash St. defeats (3) USC

(5) Arizona defeats (2) Wash St.

PAC-10 Champ: ARIZONA (you never know)

Big Ten Championship

(8) Michigan defeats (9) Minnesota
(7) Michigan St. defeats (10) Northwestern
(6) Illinois defeats (11) Penn St.

(1) Ohio State defeats (8) Michigan
(5) Purdue defeats (4) Iowa
(7) Michigan St. defeats (2) Wisconsin
(3) Indiana defeats (6) Illinois

(1) OSU defeats (5) Purdue
(7) Mich St. defeats (3) Indiana

(1) OSU defeats (7) Mich St.

Big Ten Champ: OHIO STATE

Atlantic 10 Championship

(8) Dayton defeats (9) UNC-Charlotte
(12) Richmond defeats (5) Fordham
(10) Duquesne defeats (7) St. Louis
(6) St. Joseph's defeats (11) Temple

(1) Xavier defeats (8) Dayton
(12) Richmond defeats (4) Rhode Island
(2) Massachusetts defeats (10) Duquesne
(3) George Washington defeats (6) St. Joseph's

(1) Xavier defeats (12) Richmond
(3) George Washington defeats (2) UMass defeats

(1) Xavier defeats (3) George Washington

Atlantic 10 Champ: XAVIER

SEC Championship

(4) Kentucky defeats (5) Alabama
(3) Arkansas defeats (6) South Carolina
(4) Auburn defeats (5) Georgia
(6) LSU defeats (3) Tennessee

(4) Kentucky defeats (1) Miss. St
(2) Vanderbilt defeats (3) Arkansas
(1) Florida defeats (4) Auburn
(6) LSU defeats (2) Ole Miss

(4) Kentucky defeats (3) Arkansas
(1) Florida defeats (6) LSU

(1) Florida defeats (4) Kentucky

SEC CHAMP: FLORIDA




these are my picks.

p.s. justin, check your ACC picks. you have clemson beating fsu, but then you have unc beating fsu.

[SmoothD41]

these are my picks.

p.s. justin, check your ACC picks. you have clemson beating fsu, but then you have unc beating fsu.

whoops, i actually did the same thing in mine

i think i copied and pasted justin's bracket and i agreed with the first part of his ACC so i just left it.

Obviously UNC over Clemson in round 2, not FSU

[clayj41]

This Santa Clara-Gonzaga game is pretty decent...go Zags!

[seekupig]

Weird, they're playing after the Big 12 selections were made and, is this the last major conference game of the year? Awkward.


i'm pretty sure this is a make up game for the one that was cancelled due to ice a month or so ago. could be wrong, but i think that's what i heard somewhere....

[cwsrule88]

these mid major championship games have been really good :tu at the george mason vs vcu game earlier and this siena and niagara is very competitive. Sienna made the tourney last year right?

[clayj41]

these mid major championship games have been really good :tu at the george mason vs vcu game earlier and this siena and niagara is very competitive. Sienna made the tourney last year right?

I'm pretty sure they did but I'm not 100% certain.

[seekupig]

There will be a figurative "George Mason" in the tournament though. In fact I'm gonna start using it as a verb. Did you see Florida get George Masoned by VCU?:lol

so when a team gets beat by 50+ points, can we start calling that "Getting Nebraska'd?" :D

[cwsrule88]

^ im pretty sure they did also but damn this game is close 63-62 siena

[seekupig]

i'm not to happy with the newest bracketolgy.... luckily he's usually way off with the matchups. i don't want to see KU having to play the winner of Arizona/Kentucky in the SECOND round......

[clayj41]

so when a team gets beat by 50+ points, can we start calling that "Getting Nebraska'd?" :D

No we call that Kansas playing in a weak conference :p

[clayj41]

i'm not to happy with the newest bracketolgy.... luckily he's usually way off with the matchups. i don't want to see KU having to play the winner of Arizona/Kentucky in the SECOND round......

I highly doubt that those 2 teams will play in a first round game. Granted its possible, but the tournament committee seems to stay away from early matchups like that so prestigous programs like that have a better chance of winning and increasing the ratings.

[seekupig]

No we call that Kansas playing in a weak conference :p

say what you will about the Big XII, but weak isn't the word. top heavy, yes. weak, no. show me another conference in the country with a better top 3 teams than Kansas, Texas A&M, and Texas.......

[SoRight24]

i'm not to happy with the newest bracketolgy.... luckily he's usually way off with the matchups. i don't want to see KU having to play the winner of Arizona/Kentucky in the SECOND round......

As long as you stay away from those "B" teams, you guys should be alright. ;):lol

[DMBnick15]

no we call it Memphis playing in a weak conference

[seekupig]

As long as you stay away from those "B" teams, you guys should be alright. ;):lol

be careful, Weber St. looks to be a #15 or #16 seed this year, that wouldn't be a good team for the Tar Heels to run into if my memory serves me correctly.....;) :D

[SoRight24]

be careful, Weber St. looks to be a #15 or #16 seed this year, that wouldn't be a good team for the Tar Heels to run into if my memory serves me correctly.....;) :D

Where is Harold Arceneaux these days?? ;) :BANG

[clayj41]

be careful, Weber St. looks to be a #15 or #16 seed this year, that wouldn't be a good team for the Tar Heels to run into if my memory serves me correctly.....;) :D

*coughs* BUCKNELL *coughs*

[clayj41]

say what you will about the Big XII, but weak isn't the word. top heavy, yes. weak, no. show me another conference in the country with a better top 3 teams than Kansas, Texas A&M, and Texas.......

I'm just messing with you. All three of those teams are very dangerous...

[seekupig]

Where is Harold Arceneaux these days?? ;) :BANG

in the nightmares of Tar Heel fans...... :lol

[SoRight24]

in the nightmares of Tar Heel fans...... :lol

Here he is: http://www.utahsnowbears.net/player_profiles.php?PHPSESSID=f25e85f34a3c908d6e03 2540e5de8466

He plays for the Utah Snowbears. :lol :lol :lol

[clayj41]

Gotta respect what Mark Few continues to do year in and year out. With a win tonight (and its looking that way) the Zags will have been to 9 straight NCAA tournaments, tied for the 8th longest current streak.

[seekupig]

another gift for the bubble teams...... :thumbsup

[justinandimcool]

these are my picks.

p.s. justin, check your ACC picks. you have clemson beating fsu, but then you have unc beating fsu.

Yeah I have Clemson beating FSU then UNC defeating Clemson. I meant to do that. After further proofreading I also have Cal beating OSU and UCLA beating Cal. Thanks for checking :)

[seekupig]

thanks for the input guys, this is the shirt i decided to go with to give my boys some good luck on the first weekend of the tournament that they've been lacking the last couple of years.... :lol

FRONT -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKFRONT.jpg

BACK -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKBACK.jpg

[justinandimcool]

And Zags win again. Oh well, saves an at-large for a bubble team. Santa Clara just plain disentangled down the stretch.

[justinandimcool]

thanks for the input guys, this is the shirt i decided to go with to give my boys some good luck on the first weekend of the tournament that they've been lacking the last couple of years.... :lol

FRONT -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKFRONT.jpg

BACK -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKBACK.jpg

:thumbsup Very nice!

[SoRight24]

thanks for the input guys, this is the shirt i decided to go with to give my boys some good luck on the first weekend of the tournament that they've been lacking the last couple of years.... :lol

FRONT -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKFRONT.jpg

BACK -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKBACK.jpg

Thats nice for a Mansas shirt. ;)

:thumbsup

[seekupig]

if there's any doubt by anyone that Henderson wasn't trying to go after Hansboro, here's the video. at the end, it's showed in slow motion from the best angle. looks to me like he knew exactly what he was doing...... judge for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04fSlYTGzI&mode=related&search

[justinandimcool]

Okay I have all your picks in a Word Document.

Participants so far: justinandimcool, GavMan33, Clayj41, willthethrill, SmoothD41

A couple confirmation questions due to some typos and confusion:

Clay: Cal or Oregon St? Baylor or Missouri? St. Louis or Duquesne?

Will: You got ND beating Cuse yet GT beating Cuse in the next round. Which is it? Also, Cal or Oregon St?

SmoothD: You've confirmed UNC over Clemson, not FSU, aight. And it's St. Louis, not St. John's ;)


Alright people, we need more!

And Clay I got your PM. :multi

[justinandimcool]

if there's any doubt by anyone that Henderson wasn't trying to go after Hansboro, here's the video. at the end, it's showed in slow motion from the best angle. looks to me like he knew exactly what he was doing...... judge for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04fSlYTGzI&mode=related&search

Ah crap. That front shot shows it's intentional. Still not definitive, but he was looking right at Hansbrough when his elbow caught him.

[clayj41]

Clay: Cal or Oregon St? Baylor or Missouri? St. Louis or Duquesne?






And Clay I got your PM. :multi

Cal, Missouri, and St. Louis.

Oh and too all those who received a PM from me, please do not post the information for the group in this thread. This was pointed out to me by another regular poster in this thread after I had already sent a few of the PMs, so I was sure to include this information in the rest of the PMs. This is a PRIVATE group!!!

21 other people, besides myself, have been invited to play. This may seem like a lot, but many of them are people that played in the past that I invited out of courtesy even though they may not have posted in this thread in awhile. I do not expect them all to join anyways.

[clayj41]

Ah crap. That front shot shows it's intentional. Still not definitive, but he was looking right at Hansbrough when his elbow caught him.

:thumbsup That's a very definitive video.

[UNLTrpt]

thanks for the input guys, this is the shirt i decided to go with to give my boys some good luck on the first weekend of the tournament that they've been lacking the last couple of years.... :lol

FRONT -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKFRONT.jpg

BACK -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/seekupig/KUSHAMROCKBACK.jpg

highly gay. really. I mean. gay.

[UNLTrpt]

so when a team gets beat by 50+ points, can we start calling that "Getting Nebraska'd?" :D

ouch dude. ouch.

[willthethrill]

Will: You got ND beating Cuse yet GT beating Cuse in the next round. Which is it? Also, Cal or Oregon St?

I want Oregon St., sorry.

You guys can call me Wilson ;)

[justinandimcool]

I want Oregon St., sorry.

You guys can call me Wilson ;)

:lol Thanks Wilson. By the way, ND or Cuse?

[UNLTrpt]

I predict OSU getting their first true road win of the year tonight.

oh look, they're playing nebraska.

hey look at that. I was wrong. book it guys it doesn't happen that often.

[justinandimcool]

Okay I have all your picks in a Word Document.

Participants so far: justinandimcool, GavMan33, Clayj41, willthethrill, SmoothD41



Almost forgot 41Ravens :lol Woops.

[willthethrill]

if there's any doubt by anyone that Henderson wasn't trying to go after Hansboro, here's the video. at the end, it's showed in slow motion from the best angle. looks to me like he knew exactly what he was doing...... judge for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04fSlYTGzI&mode=related&search
Wow. This is the first time I've seen the broadcast as I was at the game. They really did show it a lot didn't they. I can't BELIEVE Billy Packer. He IMMEDIATELY jumps on it: "Definitely not intentional there." HE ACTUALLY ASKS "WHO IS THE FOUL ON????" I actually commend Jim Nantz (unbelievable, I know) for not punching him in the freakin' face. I think Bill Simmons says it best in his blog today:

I don't mean to pile on Billy Packer here -- OK, maybe I do -- but when you're already considered to be one of the biggest apologists on the planet for Duke basketball, is it really a good idea to keep making excuses for a Duke player after he just threw a malicious elbow at Carolina's best player with 15 seconds remaining in an 12-point game? That was one of the strangest sequences I've ever watched in a televised basketball game. Here's a rough transcript (I'm doing it from memory):

(We see a replay of Gerald Henderson measuring Hansbrough, flying over from six feet away, then delivering a Macho Man Savage-type elbow into Hansbrough's face one second after Hansbrough had already been stripped of the ball.)

Packer: "Yeah, he was going for the ball ... that was NOT intentional."

(We see another replay of the same thing from a different angle -- this time, it looks like Henderson could potentially be arrested for what just happened.)

Packer: "See, from that replay, there's NO QUESTION that Henderson was going for the ball ... that was definitely an accident.)

(Jim Nantz thinks about mentioning that Hansbrough had already been stripped of the ball before Henderson even raises his elbow, realizes that he has to announce games with Packer for the next four weeks, doesn't want it to be awkward, decides against saying anything at all, starts day-dreaming about the Masters.)

Packer: "Nope ... no way. He was going for the ball."

(Cut to a replay of Hansbrough walking off the court with his face broken in half.)

Packer: "Jim, if anything, that was probably Hansbrough's fault for going after Henderson's elbow with his face ..."

You get the idea. We have media criticism rules at ESPN, so I have to tread carefully here ... but have you noticed that Packer somehow turns himself into a major story before EVERY NCAA TOURNAMENT? As I wrote a couple of years ago, I was watching an Indiana State Final Four game from the '79 tournament and they made a big deal before the game about how Packer had publicly attacked Indy State's credentials for the entire tournament, and now they were in the Final Four and he was eating a little crow -- they even showed an awkward interview with him and Larry Bird after the game. This was 28 years ago!!!!!! What chain of events needs to happen for CBS to replace him with a more palatable, more enjoyable, agenda-less lead analyst? Does 100 percent of the country have to band together and say, "We're tired of this guy?" Or are we good at the current number of 97 percent?

My favorite part of the whole thing: the "Go to Hell dook" chant that starts up at about 2:39. I don't think there was a single student, 6 year-old, or grandma who wasn't chanting. I just wish I had a kid there to teach them an important life lesson in morality.

[willthethrill]

:lol Thanks Wilson. By the way, ND or Cuse?
I'm retarded, sorry, ND.

[justinandimcool]

Wow. This is the first time I've seen the broadcast as I was at the game. They really did show it a lot didn't they. I can't BELIEVE Billy Packer. He IMMEDIATELY jumps on it: "Definitely not intentional there." HE ACTUALLY ASKS "WHO IS THE FOUL ON????" I actually commend Jim Nantz (unbelievable, I know) for not punching him in the freakin' face. I think Bill Simmons says it best in his blog today:



My favorite part of the whole thing: the "Go to Hell dook" chant that starts up at about 2:39. I don't think there was a single student, 6 year-old, or grandma who wasn't chanting. I just wish I had a kid there to teach them an important life lesson in morality.


Well, nothing new there on Dukie bias. I love that chant though :lol

[GavMan33]

Wow, lots of activity around here tonight. Seems I can't walk away from my computer without something going down. Ahh, the beauty of Championship Week. So let's get to it.

Justin, great work with the way the Conference Tournament pools are going to work. I see a lot of people are following my Atlantic 10 template :lol I hear you though, that's a fair way to use the A-10, as a tiebreaker.

Also, to all of you, Justin said it, and I agree 100%. This forum has been a lot of fun to hang out in and talk college hoop. Props to all of you.

On to the games of the day. I was at a high school basketball game that started at 7pm tonight, so I wasn't able to watch the CAA game. I did see the highlights though. Looks like George Mason really blew the game at the end. I feel bad for Coach Larranaga (like anybody knew who he was a year ago today :lol ). But as a Bubble Watcher, as you all know that I am, the VCU victory makes me happy. Now to contradict what I said last night, I have recently acquired the knowledge that Old Dominion beat Drexel twice during the regular season. Drexel has been very intriguing to me since winning @ Cuse and @ Nova early this season, so I have been watching them very closely. Maybe I should give more love to ODU?

I was able to get over to the bar across the street from the Times Union Center in downtown Albany, NY, (which, coincidentally, is the homecourt of the Siena Saints) to watch the MAAC Championship, Siena vs. Niagara. It was a very fun game to watch. I said it to the guy I was with over and over early in the second half, that it was going to be a fun end. It was, and although I suppose I was rooting for hometown Siena, Niagara is going to only its third NCAAs in school history. So good for them. And for the record, Siena last went to the NCAAs in 2002 (they won the play-in game in Dayton, then lost to eventual National Champion Maryland, with that team Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonny Baxter, etc.).

The WCC game was also on, but I didn't pay a WHOLE lot of attention to it. I'm lukewarm to it. As a bubble watcher, it's fantastic. But like the rest of you, I'm rather sick of Gonzaga. Remember way back when when the Zags went to that Elite Eight as a Cinderella way back when, and everybody loved them? It seems that now the more people I talk to, the more sick and tired everybody is of them now. Maybe because of success? Not really sure....

One more day until the big conferences start their tournaments. So on tap tomorrow I see we have the Sun Belt Tournament final, the Mid-Continent, and the Horizon.

Mid-Continent, 7pm, ESPN: Oral Robert vs. Oakland (As I remember, Oral Roberts was upset in the final of this tournament last season, so look for them to take this one)
Sun Belt, 9pm, ESPN2: North Texas vs. Arkansas State
Horizon, 9pm, ESPN: Wright State vs. Butler (Butler, PLEASE win this game, for us Bubble Watchers!!!)

[seekupig]

Also, to all of you, Justin said it, and I agree 100%. This forum has been a lot of fun to hang out in and talk college hoop. Props to all of you.

:thumbsup
seems to be the only sports thread on ants without constant fighting and that one asshole that ruins it for everyone.....

[clayj41]

:thumbsup
seems to be the only sports thread on ants without constant fighting and that one asshole that ruins it for everyone.....

:thumbsup That's why this thread has been around so long. We all respect each other in here, even if we don't necessarily agree with someone's opinion.

[justinandimcool]

Wow, lots of activity around here tonight. Seems I can't walk away from my computer without something going down. Ahh, the beauty of Championship Week. So let's get to it.

Justin, great work with the way the Conference Tournament pools are going to work. I see a lot of people are following my Atlantic 10 template :lol I hear you though, that's a fair way to use the A-10, as a tiebreaker.

Also, to all of you, Justin said it, and I agree 100%. This forum has been a lot of fun to hang out in and talk college hoop. Props to all of you.

On to the games of the day. I was at a high school basketball game that started at 7pm tonight, so I wasn't able to watch the CAA game. I did see the highlights though. Looks like George Mason really blew the game at the end. I feel bad for Coach Larranaga (like anybody knew who he was a year ago today :lol ). But as a Bubble Watcher, as you all know that I am, the VCU victory makes me happy. Now to contradict what I said last night, I have recently acquired the knowledge that Old Dominion beat Drexel twice during the regular season. Drexel has been very intriguing to me since winning @ Cuse and @ Nova early this season, so I have been watching them very closely. Maybe I should give more love to ODU?

I was able to get over to the bar across the street from the Times Union Center in downtown Albany, NY, (which, coincidentally, is the homecourt of the Siena Saints) to watch the MAAC Championship, Siena vs. Niagara. It was a very fun game to watch. I said it to the guy I was with over and over early in the second half, that it was going to be a fun end. It was, and although I suppose I was rooting for hometown Siena, Niagara is going to only its third NCAAs in school history. So good for them. And for the record, Siena last went to the NCAAs in 2002 (they won the play-in game in Dayton, then lost to eventual National Champion Maryland, with that team Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonny Baxter, etc.).

The WCC game was also on, but I didn't pay a WHOLE lot of attention to it. I'm lukewarm to it. As a bubble watcher, it's fantastic. But like the rest of you, I'm rather sick of Gonzaga. Remember way back when when the Zags went to that Elite Eight as a Cinderella way back when, and everybody loved them? It seems that now the more people I talk to, the more sick and tired everybody is of them now. Maybe because of success? Not really sure....

One more day until the big conferences start their tournaments. So on tap tomorrow I see we have the Sun Belt Tournament final, the Mid-Continent, and the Horizon.

Mid-Continent, 7pm, ESPN: Oral Robert vs. Oakland (As I remember, Oral Roberts was upset in the final of this tournament last season, so look for them to take this one)
Sun Belt, 9pm, ESPN2: North Texas vs. Arkansas State
Horizon, 9pm, ESPN: Wright State vs. Butler (Butler, PLEASE win this game, for us Bubble Watchers!!!)

Nice to see you tonight Bob :)

Okay, well after looking at both schedules I think they both have to go in. Drexel has only 3 losses (Rider, Hofstra, W&M) to teams outside of the tournament (Penn, ODU, VCU). Like you said, those wins in the Big East are huge. ODU has "quality losses" against VT, Clemson, and Winthrop, but they've swept Drexel like you mentioned and beaten VCU. Oh and not to mention, they beat some school called Georgetown. The case for both these teams being IN is stronger than OUT. Especially with Winthrop and Gonzaga taking their rightful bids, they've got some space to breathe.

You and your damn MAAC knowledge. Shut up :lol ;) Niagara was okay today, I only saw the 2nd half. They've got no distinguishable strength, not much to rely on, but good for them that they got in.


Butler needs to win this one too, agreed.

[UNLTrpt]

Wow. This is the first time I've seen the broadcast as I was at the game. They really did show it a lot didn't they. I can't BELIEVE Billy Packer. He IMMEDIATELY jumps on it: "Definitely not intentional there." HE ACTUALLY ASKS "WHO IS THE FOUL ON????" I actually commend Jim Nantz (unbelievable, I know) for not punching him in the freakin' face. I think Bill Simmons says it best in his blog today:

you know why he asked who the foul was on? because the whistle was BEFORE the hit to the nose. That Johnson (#51) raked Tyler across the right arm and then he got hit by Henderson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAR2tWAj49o&mode=related&search=

and he didn't punch him in the face, he didn't get an elbow to the face it was his forearm.

do I think he did it on purpose? I dunno. One angle (below the basket) makes me think he did. another (close up from the sideline, behind Hansbrough) makes me think that he was trying to go after the ball and missed BECAUSE Tyler was raked and the ball went else where.

I'd like to believe that he didn't do it on purpose though.

edit: hell roy doesn't think he did it on purpose

"I don't think there is any intentional planned thing, 'I'm going to go get the guy,' " Williams said. "I think it was an unfortunate thing that happened during the game."

[willthethrill]

you know why he asked who the foul was on? because the whistle was BEFORE the hit to the nose. That Johnson (#51) raked Tyler across the right arm and then he got hit by Henderson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAR2tWAj49o&mode=related&search=

and he didn't punch him in the face, he didn't get an elbow to the face it was his forearm.

do I think he did it on purpose? I dunno. One angle (below the basket) makes me think he did. another (close up from the sideline, behind Hansbrough) makes me think that he was trying to go after the ball and missed BECAUSE Tyler was raked and the ball went else where.

I'd like to believe that he didn't do it on purpose though.
Yea, at first I thought the foul was going to be called on Johnson because I didn't have a very good view from the risers. I saw what he did and not really what Gerald did. That made me mad because I thought K sent the benchwarmer in as a goon when I saw Tyler go down. I mean, Johnson fouled him pretty hard too; he got a nice push and, like you said, a pretty solid hit on the arm.

I'm all for unbiased opinions. I didn't mind Henderson because he's tight with Wayne and it seems some other Heels too, and he's a good player without the attitude of a typical dookie (see, we don't hate all of 'em, there's reasons), but I'm afraid he's a marked man for the rest of his career, and dare I say life? Probably in Chapel Hill.

edit: hell roy doesn't think he did it on purpose

"I don't think there is any intentional planned thing, 'I'm going to go get the guy,' " Williams said. "I think it was an unfortunate thing that happened during the game."

Yea, but what else is he supposed to say? It's not like he's K....
I was at the press conference and he was very PC and careful about the subject. He obviously wasn't too happy about Mike's comments though.

[GavMan33]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

This is so funny. I'm watching the YouTube that some of you posted on the Henderson/Hansbrough exchange. Billy Packer. What a prick man. Over and over again, he tells us about how it was unintentional. And THEN, he starts getting on the refs for taking TOO MUCH TIME. I applaud the refs! You guys take as much time as you need to make sure you got the call right. My Goodness. What a complete douche.

[UNLTrpt]

I think the foul was supposed to be on Johnson but then Tyler hit the floor and they forgot about it.

But Packer was right, why was he on the floor? I know its Dook and its their rival and you're sticking it to them but...14.5 left to go? Get the scrubs out there. Luckily he can still play, what if he comes down wrong on his knee and he tears something? His name changes from Tyler Hansburogh to Booby Miles.

There is a point in time where it goes from sticking it to your rival and plain stupidity. No one has more of a reason to stick it to Dook as UNC does and the other way around, but IMO Roy dropped the ball on this one.

[clayj41]

But Packer was right, why was he on the floor? I know its Dook and its their rival and you're sticking it to them but...14.5 left to go?

Roy left him in there because of the timeout Coach K had called...

"Coach K said that the game was over and the starters shouldn't have been in. Then why did you call a timeout with :50 left? Because the game wasn't over, and that's why Roy Williams had his guy in."

I have no problem with Roy keeping Tyler in...he's an intense player playing in an intense rivalry game. It wouldn't have pissed me off any less if Henderson had taken a cheap shot on Dion Thompson or someone else off the bench. He should no better and take responsibility for his actions.

[UNLTrpt]

Roy left him in there because of the timeout Coach K had called...

"Coach K said that the game was over and the starters shouldn't have been in. Then why did you call a timeout with :50 left? Because the game wasn't over, and that's why Roy Williams had his guy in."

I have no problem with Roy keeping Tyler in...he's an intense player playing in an intense rivalry game. It wouldn't have pissed me off any less if Henderson had taken a cheap shot on Dion Thompson or someone else off the bench. He should no better and take responsibility for his actions.

oh know I agree that it wouldn't have been any less controversial had it been a no one on UNC's bench. But again, Tyler is a reason why they're the #1 team in the ACC. Game is over. Regular season championship is wrapped up. get him off the floor, get someone who isn't going to be a key cog in a postseason run out there to get popped in the nose. Not one of your most valuable players.

[kydmb99]

Damn, one thing I will say is the Duke/UNC rivalry just got that more heated. I hate that Tyler got hurt and it was a cheap shot no doubt, but the next few games between these teams is going to be interesting, to say the least.

[clayj41]

oh know I agree that it wouldn't have been any less controversial had it been a no one on UNC's bench. But again, Tyler is a reason why they're the #1 team in the ACC. Game is over. Regular season championship is wrapped up. get him off the floor, get someone who isn't going to be a key cog in a postseason run out there to get popped in the nose. Not one of your most valuable players.

I agree that the only reason its such a big deal is because it happened to Psycho T. Again though, I can't value one's players well being over another's, even if he is the star of the team. Henderson acted out of frustration and someone got hurt, it just happened to be Hansbrough.

[clayj41]

Damn, one thing I will say is the Duke/UNC rivalry just got that more heated. I hate that Tyler got hurt and it was a cheap shot no doubt, but the next few games between these teams is going to be interesting, to say the least.

:thumbsup It will be hyped like nothing you've ever seen before (notice I didn't say overhyped, because a Duke-UNC game can never be overhyped:D ) Don't expect retaliation or anything on Roy's part.

[kydmb99]

:thumbsup It will be hyped like nothing you've ever seen before (notice I didn't say overhyped, because a Duke-UNC game can never be overhyped:D ) Don't expect retaliation or anything on Roy's part.

Nope, definitely not. He's a class act... and damn good coach. I'm guessing Tyler H has some monster games coming up.

[bubba40]

9 days before the start of the Madness, let's play buy or sell :D . Here's mine:

Buy:
Maryland
Kansas
Florida
Georgetown (shut up :p )
Texas A&M

Sell:
Nevada
Washington State
Southern Illinois
Wisconsin
Ohio State

[kydmb99]

Buy
Kansas
UNC
Georgia Tech
Texas
Louisville

Sell
Wisconsin
Maryland (Gut feeling)
Georgetown
Oregon
Boston College

[chiznaz]

how is talking about one of the best players in the country sucking him off?

I just don't get it.

Sorry I;m so late with replies, but I go off and study for long stretches:thumbsdow

Houston Chronicle for example. Before A&M beat Kansas, we would win some big conference games, and the next day the lead College Hoops story is a story about the upcoming texas game and something on durant. A&M would be bumped to a box score and AP recap of the game at best the following day when they had a game and texas didn't. Then don't even get me started on Terrance friggin Harris and the garbage he throws out there.

I know I sound sour, but I promise I'm really not:lol Anyways, it's tourny time! Put up or shut up.

p.s. I saw NU put a beating on OSU tonight. Yall have a tough draw with this BigXII tourny and the way the makeup game was scheduled

[chiznaz]

I got this one off the rivals board I read a lot......


Name this basketball coach

"Found this interesting...

a) native Texan
b) graduated from Southwest Texas State
c) has built a basketball program from absolutely nothing to a conference championship contender
d) has winning credentials in three levels, including championships at the HS and JC level
e) relentless recruiter
f) coaches at Texas A&M....

...in Corpus Christi.

You probably already guessed it, but Ronnie Arrow has TAMU-CC on track for their first NCAA tourney bid this year. The only reason they haven't been in it before is because they have only been playing D-1 Bball for seven years and spent the first six of it as an independent. In 2006-07, their first year in the Southland Conference, they've won the regular season title and are favorites to win the conference tourney with a record of 23-6 (14-2).

I remember reading about his teams at San Jacinto JC during the '80s, where he led them to a 302-48 record with 10 Texas JC championships and national JC championships in '83, '84 and '86. He went on to coach at South Alabama, where he took them to the NCAA tourney 2x, and in 1989 upset Alabama in the opening round and in the second round led eventual champ Michigan (w/ Glen Rice and Rumeal Robinson) at halftime before losing 91-82.

In 1994-1995, he was fired four games into the season at USA. He then left coaching for 4 years until 1999 when he was hired as the first BB coach at TAMU-CC. Since then, he's posted notable upsets including Baylor, Florida State, Texas Tech and of course The Game Which Shall Not Be Named.

So my questions are, for those that know a little more about Ronnie Arrow: why was he fired from South Alabama? I can't find that info anywhere."

[SmoothD41]

SmoothD: You've confirmed UNC over Clemson, not FSU, aight. And it's St. Louis, not St. John's ;)



correct

sorry, my brain must have been fried at that point :)

[GavMan33]

9 days before the start of the Madness, let's play buy or sell :D . Here's mine:

Buy:
Maryland
Kansas
Florida
Georgetown (shut up :p )
Texas A&M

Sell:
Nevada
Washington State
Southern Illinois
Wisconsin
Ohio State

Well, what are we buying for? Advancing to the second weekend of the tournament? Advancing to the National Semi-finals?

Regardless, I'm buying Maryland and Kansas. Definitely selling Nevada and Washington State. I don't know, I think that S.Illinois team is solid; I wasn't able to see it, but I hear they played just horrible in the game vs. Creighton. Also gotta buy A&M. Playing fantastic basketball, I really like them. I'm staying mum on those Big Ten teams though.

So far, the bubble has stayed very large. Still no upsets in the conference tourneys that cost at-large bids. And today is Tuesday. Butler's GOTTA come through tonight. Let's go Bulldogs!

[gbs3769]

Primo's Pimp Bracket

ACC Tournament
(9) FSU defeats (9) Clemson
(5) Maryland defeats (12) Miami
(10) NC State defeats (7) Duke
(11) Wake Forest defeats (6) Georgia Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (9) FSU
(5) Maryland defeats (4) Boston College
(10) NC State defeats (2) Virginia
(3) VA Tech defeats (11) Wake Forest

(1) North Carolina defeats (5) Maryland
(3) VA Tech defeats (10) NC State

(1) North Carolina defeats (10) NC State

ACC Champ: NORTH CAROLINA

Big XII Tournament
(9) Oklahoma defeats (8) Iowa State
(5) Texas Tech defeats (12) Colorado
(10) Nebraska defeats (7) OK State
(6) Missouri defeats (11) Baylor

(1) Kansas defeats (9) Oklahoma
(5) Texas Tech defeats (4) Kansas St.
(2) Texas A&M defeats (10) Nebraska
(3) Texas defeats (6) Missouri

(1) Kansas defeats (5) Texas Tech
(2) Texas A&M defeats (3) Texas

(2) Texas A&M defeats (1) Kansas

Big XII Champ: TEXAS A&M

Big East Championship
(9) Villanova defeats (8) Depaul
(12) UConn defeats (5) Syracuse
(10) Providence defeats (7) West Virginia
(11) St. John's defeats (6) Marquette

(1) Georgetown defeats (9) Villanova
(4) Notre Dame defeats (12) UConn
(10) Providence defeats (2) Louisville
(3) Pittsburgh defeats (11) St. John's

(4) Notre Dame defeats (1) Georgetown
(3) Pittsburgh defeats (10) Providence

(3) Pittsburgh defeats (4) Notre Dame

Big East Champ: PITTSBURGH

PAC-10 Championship
(8) California defeats (9) Oregon St.
(7) Washington defeats (10) Arizona St.

(1) UCLA defeats (8) California
(5) Arizona defeats (4) Oregon
(6) Stanford defeats (3) USC
(2) Washington St. defeats (7) Washington

(1) UCLA defeats (5) Arizona
(6) Stanford defeats (2) Washington St

(6) Stanford defeats (1) UCLA

PAC-10 Champ: STANFORD

Big Ten Championship
(8) Michigan defeats (9) Minnesota
(7) Michigan St. defeats (10) Northwestern
(6) Illinois defeats (11) Penn St.

(1) OSU defeats (8) Michigan
(5) Purdue defeats (4) Iowa
(7) Michigan St. defeats (2) Wisconsin
(6) Illinois defeats (3) Indiana

(1) OSU defeats (5) Purdue
(7) Michigan State defeats (6) Illinois

(7) Michigan State defeats (1) OSU

Big Ten Champ: Michigan State

Atlantic 10 Championship
(8) Dayton defeats (9) UNC-Charlotte
(12) Richmond defeats (5) Fordham
(7) St. Louis University defeats (10) Duquesne
(6) St. Joseph's defeats (11) Temple

(1) Xavier defeats (8) Dayton
(4) URI defeats (12) Richmond
(7) St. Louis University defeats (2) UMass
(6) St. Joe's defeats (3) GW

(1) Xavier defeats (4) URI
(7) St. Louis University defeats (6) St. Joe's

(7) SLU defeats (1) Xavier

Atlantic 10 Champ: ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY (Go Billikens!)

SEC Championship
(5) Alabama defeats (4) Kentucky
(3) Arkansas defeats (6) South Carolina
(4) Auburn defeats (5) Georgia
(3) Tennessee defeats (6) LSU

(5) Alabama defeats (1) Miss. St
(2) Vanderbilt defeats (3) Arkansas
(1) Florida defeats (4) Auburn
(3) Tennessee defeats (2) Ole Miss

(2) Venderbilt defeats (5) Alabama
(1) Florida defeats (3) Tennessee

(2) Vanderbilt defeats (1) Florida

SEC CHAMP: VANDERBILT

- Primo

[UNC41]

Yeah it sucked seeing that, but I guess I can't complain with BCG getting COY over Barnes. IMO I think Law should have gotten BigXII POY and barnes get COY.

They got it right. Law should be second in the nation for POY, unfortunately that also means he's second in his own conference this year.

There will be a figurative "George Mason" in the tournament though. In fact I'm gonna start using it as a verb. Did you see Florida get George Masoned by VCU?:lol

That is going to get so annoying. I've already had enough of it. At halftime of one of the games this weekend CBS announcers were saying it's likely we have another "George Mason" this year. It's likely another double digit seed makes the Final Four this year? Orly? No, sorry guys.

I think the foul was supposed to be on Johnson but then Tyler hit the floor and they forgot about it.

But Packer was right, why was he on the floor? I know its Dook and its their rival and you're sticking it to them but...14.5 left to go? Get the scrubs out there. Luckily he can still play, what if he comes down wrong on his knee and he tears something? His name changes from Tyler Hansburogh to Booby Miles.

There is a point in time where it goes from sticking it to your rival and plain stupidity. No one has more of a reason to stick it to Dook as UNC does and the other way around, but IMO Roy dropped the ball on this one.

Well, Roy had Mike Copeland sitting at halfcourt ready to sub in for Hansbrough, but he was shooting at the time and you can't sub for the shooter unless he misses the second one. Also, it's on the defense to wave the white flag first, yet Coach K was still calling timeouts, pressing and fouling. Roy is well aware of the 8 in 17 seconds incident, which was without the three-point line, so if Ratface isn't calling off the dogs I can see why he's hesitant. I wish Hansbrough would have been out at the time, but I still don't see why that means Roy is to blame. Roy didn't go at Hansbrough's face with a loaded elbow. The only one to blame is Henderson.

[willthethrill]

Exactly. Coach K still had all his starters in. Except for the fact that Paulus and McRoberts had just fouled out within 5 seconds of Tyler shooting the free throws. Roy sees these guys going to the bench, sends Copeland to the scorer's table, Tyler keeps playing hard and gets fouled. Shoots free throws and continues to compete. I don't buy this kick it out garbage. He was surrounded by players and this guy's mentality is "kill" when he has the ball 2 feet from the basket.

No more Roy's fault than K's. K just had his starters fouling out.

[GavMan33]

Atlantic 10 Championship
(8) Dayton defeats (9) UNC-Charlotte
(12) Richmond defeats (5) Fordham
(7) St. Louis University defeats (10) Duquesne
(6) St. Joseph's defeats (11) Temple

(1) Xavier defeats (8) Dayton
(4) URI defeats (12) Richmond
(7) St. Louis University defeats (2) UMass
(6) St. Joe's defeats (3) GW

(1) Xavier defeats (4) URI
(7) St. Louis University defeats (6) St. Joe's

(7) SLU defeats (1) Xavier

Atlantic 10 Champ: ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY (Go Billikens!)



Look at my man here! About time somebody comes up with something interesting! You know what the scary thing is, and maybe Primo knows it: Xavier is 1-3 vs. STL since they joined the A-10 in 05-06. This is a very legitimate A-10 bracket. Well done Primo!

[GavMan33]

Well, Roy had Mike Copeland sitting at halfcourt ready to sub in for Hansbrough, but he was shooting at the time and you can't sub for the shooter unless he misses the second one. Also, it's on the defense to wave the white flag first, yet Coach K was still calling timeouts, pressing and fouling. Roy is well aware of the 8 in 17 seconds incident, which was without the three-point line, so if Ratface isn't calling off the dogs I can see why he's hesitant. I wish Hansbrough would have been out at the time, but I still don't see why that means Roy is to blame. Roy didn't go at Hansbrough's face with a loaded elbow. The only one to blame is Henderson.

OK, time for me to weigh in. Listen, college hoop is a business. Guys don't owe anybody anything. Unless it's like a 40-point game (and apparently the only time that happens is when Kansas plays Nebraska :lol ), I have no problem with starters being in the game. At the high school level, it's different. The last guy on a high school team isn't going to be playing college ball, so it's probably his last time playing organized. So when you can get that last kid in there, you do it. In college, you don't owe that to the walk-ons. They know their roles, and hopefully they fill them to a 'T'. But in a 14-point game in which the other team hasn't thrown up the "surrender flag", I got no problem with UNC starters being in the game.

And I was even more pissed off at the Nuggets/Knicks brawl a few months ago. I'm a "Knicks fan", I guess. I haven't been able to watch a game since 2000, because the pro game just doesn't appeal to me like it did when my heroes (Ewing and Starks) ruled the Garden. But you got freaking Isaiah Thomas complaining that the Nuggets shouldn't have their starters in. Listen you failure of a head coach, GM, etc. In case you didn't notice, the NBA is a business. Coaches can play whoever they want, whenever they want. Of course they run the risk of something happening, such as what happened to Carmelo, or Hansbrough. But if a coach is willing to take the risk, more power to him. In the high school game, opposing coaches should call off the dogs so his end of bench guys can get some PT. In college and the pros, that rule does not apply. I officially lost what little respect I had for Isaiah Thomas after the Knicks/Nuggets game because of his whining like a little baby. Grrr. Now I'm all pissed off. :mad :BANG

(And a note: Apologies go out to the Cornhusker on this board, it seems I've bashed Nebraska a few times without giving you a shoutout. All in good fun man. How bout that Tommy Frazier?)

[HolyCow]

I'm in boys.


ACC Tournament

(9) FSU defeats (8) Clemson
(5) Maryland defeats (12) Miami (FL)
(7) Duke defeats (10) NC State
(11) Wake Forest defeats (6) GA Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (8) Clemson
(5) Maryland defeats (4) Boston College
(2) Virginia defeats (7) Duke
(11) Wake defeats (3) VA Tech

(1) North Carolina defeats (5) Maryland
(2) Virginia defeats (11) Wake

(1) North Carolina defeats (2) Virginia

ACC Champ: NORTH CAROLINA

Big XII Tournament

(9) Oklahoma defeats (8) Iowa St.
(5) Texas Tech defeats (12) Colorado
(7) Oklahoma St. defeats (10) Nebraska
(6) Missouri defeats (11) Baylor

(1) Kansas defeats (9) OU
(4) Kansas St. defeats (5) Texas Tech
(2) Texas A&M defeats (7) OK St.
(3) Texas defeats (6) Mizzou

(1) Kansas defeats (4) K-State
(2) Texas A&M defeats (3) Texas

(2) Texas A&M defeats (1) Kansas

Big XII Champ: A&M

Big East Championship

(9) Villanova defeats (8) Depaul
(12) UConn defeats (5) Syracuse
(7) West Virginia defeats (10) Providence
(6) Marquette defeats (11) St. John's

(1) Georgetown defeats (9) Villanova
(4) Notre Dame defeats (12) UConn
(2) Louisville defeats (7) WVU
(6) Marquette defeats (3) Pittsburgh

(1) Georgetown defeats (4) Notre Dame
(6) Marquette defeats (2) Louisville

(6) Marquette defeats (1) Georgetown

Big East Champ: MARQUETTE

PAC-10 Championship

(8) California defeats (9) Oregon St.
(7) Washington defeats (10) Arizona St.

(1) UCLA defeats (9) Oregon St.
(5) Arizona defeats (4) Oregon
(3) USC defeats (6) Stanford
(2) Washington St. defeats (7) Washington

(1) UCLA defeats (5) Arizona
(2) Washington St defeats (3) USC

(2) Wazzu defeats (1) UCLA

PAC-10 Champ: WAZZU

Big Ten Championship

(8) Michigan defeats (9) Minnesota
(7) Michigan St. defeats (10) Northwestern
(6) Illinois defeats (11) Penn St.

(1) Ohio State University defeats (8) Michigan
(5) Purdue defeats (4) Iowa
(2) Wisconsin defeats (7) Michigan St.
(3) Indiana defeats (6) Illinois

(5) Purdue defeats (1) OSU
(3) Indiana defeats (7) Michigan State

(3) Indiana defeats (5) Purdue

Big Ten Champ: INDIANA

Atlantic 10 Championship

(8) Dayton defeats (9) UNC-Charlotte
(5) Fordham defeats (12) Richmond
(10) Duquesne defeats (7) St. Louis
(6) St. Joseph's defeats (11) Temple

(1) Xavier defeats (8) Dayton
(4) Rhode Island defeats (5) Fordham
(2) Massachusetts defeats (10) Duquesne
(3) George Washington defeats (6) St. Joseph's

(1) Xavier defeats (4) Rhode Island
(3) George Washington defeats (2) UMass

(3) George Washington defeats (1) Xavier

Atlantic 10 Champ: GEORGE WASHINGTON


SEC Championship

(4) Kentucky defeats (5) Alabama
(3) Arkansas defeats (6) South Carolina
(5) Georgia defeats (4) Auburn
(3) Tennessee defeats (6) LSU

(4) Kentucky defeats (1) Miss. St
(3) Arkansas defeats (2) Vanderbilt
(1) Florida defeats (5) Georgia
(3) Tennessee defeats (2) Ole Miss

(3) Arkansas defeats (4) Kentucky
(1) Florida defeats (3) Tennessee

(1) Florida defeats (3) Arkansas

SEC CHAMP: FLORIDA

[DMBnick15]

Look at my man here! About time somebody comes up with something interesting! You know what the scary thing is, and maybe Primo knows it: Xavier is 1-3 vs. STL since they joined the A-10 in 05-06. This is a very legitimate A-10 bracket. Well done Primo!

GO SLU!

[SmoothG]

PAC-10 Championship
(8) California defeats (9) Oregon St.
(7) Washington defeats (10) Arizona St.

(1) UCLA defeats (8) California
(5) Arizona defeats (4) Oregon
(6) Stanford defeats (3) USC
(2) Washington St. defeats (7) Washington

(1) UCLA defeats (5) Arizona
(6) Stanford defeats (2) Washington St

(6) Stanford defeats (1) UCLA

PAC-10 Champ: STANFORD


- Primo

Sorry, but there is no way that Stanford beats USC, Washington State and UCLA.

[dmb71687]

Alrighty, found some time to do this finally...

ACC Tournament:

(9)FSU defeats (8)Clemson
(5)Maryland defeats (12)Miami
(10)NC State defeats (7)Duke
(6)GT defeats (11)Wake Forest

(1)North Carolina defeats (9)FSU
(4)BC defeats (5)Maryland
(10)NC State defeats (2)Virginia
(6)GT defeats (3)VA Tech

(4)BC defeats (1)North Carolina
(6)GT defeats (10)NC State

(6)GT defeats (4) BC

ACC Champ: Georgia Tech

Big XII Tournament

(9)Oklahoma defeats (8) Iowa St.
(5)Texas Tech defeats (12)Colorado
(7)Ok State defeats (10)Nebraska
(11)Baylor defeats (6)Missouri

(1)Kansas defats (9)Oklahoma
(5)Texas Tech defeats (4)Kansas St.
(2)Texas A&M defeats (7)OK State
(3)Texas defeats (11)Baylor

(5)Texas Tech defeats (1)Kansas
(2)Texas A&M defeats (3)Texas

(2)Texas A&M defeats (3)Texas

Big XII Champ: Texas A&M

Big East Tournament
(9)Depaul defeats (8)Villanova
(5)Syracuse defeats (12)UConn
(10)Providence defeats (7)WV
(6)Marquette defeats (11)St. John's

(1)Georgetown defeats (9)Depaul
(5)Syracuse defeats (4)ND
(2)Louisville defeats (10)Providence
(6)Marquette defeats Pittsburgh

(1)Georgetown defeats (5)Syracuse
(2)Louisville defeats (6)Marquette

(2)Louisville defeats (1)Georgetown

Big East Champ: Louisville

PAC-10 Tournament

(9)Oregon St defeats (8)California
(7)Washington defeats (10)Arizona St.

(1)UCLA defeats (9)Oregon St
(4)Oregon defeats (5)Arizona
(6)Stanford defeats (3)USC
(2)Washington St defeats (7)Washington

(1)UCLA defeats (4)Oregon
(2)Washington St defeats (6)Stanford

(2)Washington St defeats (1)UCLA

PAC-10 CHAMP:Washington State

Big Ten Tournament
(8)Michigan defeats (9)Minnesota
(7)Michigan St defeats (10)Northwestern
(6)Illinois defeats (11)Penn St

(1)OSU defeats (8)Michigan
(5)Purdue defeats (4)Iowa
(2)Wisconsin defeats (7)MSU
(6)Illinois defeats (3)Indiana

(1)OSU defeats (5)Purdue
(2)Wisconsin defeats (6)Illinois

(2)Wisconsin defeats (1)OSU

Big Ten Champ: Wisconsin(Hell yes I'm bias!)

SEC Tournament
(5)Alabama defeats (4)Kentucky
(6)South Carolina defeats (3)Arkansas
(5)Georgia defeats (4)Auburn
(3)Tennessee defeats (6)LSU

(5)Alabama defeats (1)Miss. St
(2)Vanderbilt defeats (6)South Carolina
(5)Georgia defeats (1)Florida
(3)Tennessee defeats (2)Ole Miss

(2)Vanderbilt defeats (5)Alabama
(5)Georgia defeats (3)Tennessee

(2)Vanderbilt defeats (5)Georgia

SEC CHAMP: Vanderbilt

A-10 Tournament

(9)UNC-Charlotte defeats (8)Dayton
(5)Fordham defeats (12)Richmond
(7)St, Louis defeats (10)Duquesne
(6)St. Joes defeats (11)Temple

(1)Xavier defeats (8)UNC Charlotte
(5)Fordham defeats (4)Rhode Island
(2)Mass defeats (7) St Louis
(3)George Washington defeats (6)St Louis

(1)Xavier defeats (5)Fordham
(3)GW defeats (2)Mass

(3)GW defeats (1)Xavier

A-10 Champ: George Washington

[dmb71687]

And I see just like every other year before March Madness my Badgers are the popular team to pick to be upset. Be ready to be surprised my friends!

[DMBnick15]

And I see just like every other year before March Madness my Badgers are the popular team to pick to be upset. Be ready to be surprised my friends!

i'll believe it when i see it haha.

[GavMan33]

And I see just like every other year before March Madness my Badgers are the popular team to pick to be upset. Be ready to b