Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[willthethrill]

4 texas??? :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine

[justinandimcool]

I think Durant will eat you guys alive!:D

I think so too. But hey, at least he's no Bryce Taylor.

[41ravens]

i knew this tourney was going to be impossible to pick.

[clayj41]

yeah it is. what's their reward for beating marq/mich st? most likely texas. ouch.

Yeah, it's not pretty. Not to mention the fact that they drew arguably the toughest #2 seed in Georgetown!:BANG

[clayj41]

I think so too. But hey, at least he's no Bryce Taylor.

Well don't worry, I'm worried about him potentially eating UNC alive if they meet up.:lol

[chiznaz]

A&M has OSU and Memphis but in the San Antonio regional...... I'll take that.

[willthethrill]

Sorry Gavman...

[justinandimcool]

:lol :lol :lol Xavier got a 9. Oh Bob needs hugs :hug :hug :hug

[justinandimcool]

Memphis has an easy ride to the sweet 16. Wow.

[chiznaz]

Are you shitting me. They sent Memphis to NOL!?!?!

[clayj41]

Not that Ohio St. has it easy, but I'd much rather be in their region than UNC's.

Nevada over Memphis in the second round...

[thestand]

Stanford at 11?!?!? Woooooooooooooooooow.

[willthethrill]

yikes, Louisville v. A&M

[clayj41]

West Virginia and Drexel both out...:shrug

[willthethrill]

Are you shitting me. They sent Memphis to NOL!?!?!
Sorry man. Guess you'll have somebody to pull against.

[justinandimcool]

No West Virginia. No Drexel. No Syracuse (BULLSHIT) Who else got snubbed?

Stanford's in!!!! Go Pac-10!!!!!

[chiznaz]

Talk about a kick to the nuts. Why wouldn't memphis go to Lexington and A&M to NOL???

[clayj41]

Memphis has an easy ride to the sweet 16. Wow.

I'm telling you, Nevada will beat them.:D

[thestand]

When Stanford didn't come in at 16, 15, or 14, I was like nope, no chance. Wow.

[UNLTrpt]

No Kansas St.

[chiznaz]

Sorry man. Guess you'll have somebody to pull against.

Thanks. Yeah weak C-USA gets the 2 seed.

I still don't get this pod system.

I like A&M's draw of teams, but not the locations.

[justinandimcool]

No Kansas St.

Shame. I can't believe Syracuse didn't make it. They deserved it instead of Arkansas.

[UNLTrpt]

:lol

Creighton got hosed. I love it.

[clayj41]

No Kansas St.

Huggins is gonna kill somebody!!!:lol

[unccrombie]

really really shocked about su

[dmbphan041]

No Air Force?

[clayj41]

Well, I'm gonna go fill out some brackets. Be around later...

[mizzoudmbfan]

No West Virginia. No Drexel. No Syracuse (BULLSHIT) Who else got snubbed?

Stanford's in!!!! Go Pac-10!!!!!

'Cuse? I'm sure MoSU fans will be upset, but I'm not convinced they deserve it.

[UNLTrpt]

Huggins is gonna kill somebody!!!:lol

Fuck that cheating a-hole.

[willthethrill]

UNC:
Marquette/Texas/Georgetown/OSU or A&M. Wowsers.

[chiznaz]

Why the hell would we have to play Louisville IN LEXINGTON to potentially make it to the sweet 16

[SmoothD41]

drexel got fucking screwed

Some very, very interesting 8/9 games.

My Hoosiers are placed in an almost identical situation to last year, except they had Gonzaga in the 2nd round for the right to face UCLA in the sweet 16. This year it will be for the right to play UCLA in the 2nd round.

Man, I have work to do tonight and I am not going to be able to concentrate. I traditionally set records for worthlessness over the next 3 weeks.

[chiznaz]

How far is it from Lousiville to Lexington?

I have to recoordinate my trip now.

[justinandimcool]

Ohio State has a clear path to the Elite 8. No one to seriously challenge them I don't think. But I haven't seen Xavier play, but other than that, Virginia and Tennessee? eh...

[willthethrill]

Oden will DESTROY UVA if they play.

[SoRight24]

WTF where is Syracuse??

How could they be left out?

I'm glad the Heels got the #1 seed though! I'm gonna get tickets for the first two games in WS.

[justinandimcool]

My heart goes out to Primo :lorraine

[justinandimcool]

I'm gonna go fill out some brackets too. In very light pencil might I add...

[clayj41]

How far is it from Lousiville to Lexington?

I have to recoordinate my trip now.

Eh, I driven the distance before but I can't really think of it now. Maybe 1 1/2 to 2 hours...

[willthethrill]

AWKWARD!! Jim Nantz you suck.

[mizzoudmbfan]

AWKWARD!! Jim Nantz you suck.

?

what did he do/say?

[UNLTrpt]

Why the hell would we have to play Louisville IN LEXINGTON to potentially make it to the sweet 16

yeah and if you get to the sweet 16 you get to play in San Antonio. Tough draw there.

[willthethrill]

It was the committee guy thanking them while Nantz and Packer were talking at the same time, while they showed an image of Gumbel just staring at the camera.

Looks like UNC is gonna be a popular upset pick. WSU over Texas for the 3 seed just doesn't make any sense to me.

[chiznaz]

yeah and if you get to the sweet 16 you get to play in San Antonio. Tough draw there.


SHHHHH:twenty4

[justinandimcool]

I'm not sure I have it in me to pick both VCU and Wright State to play each other in the 2nd round....hmmmm. It's lightly penciled in.

[UNLTrpt]

SHHHHH:twenty4

:lol

[SoRight24]

This should be a great tournament!

I'm scared about our possible 2nd round draw, either Michigan State or Marquette. Yikes....

That is, assuming we beat Eastern Kentucky. ;)

[thestand]

My ballsy Elite 8, before I pussy out and go with those "fact" things :lol

Midwest:

Florida, Oregon

West:

Kansas, UCLA

East:

UNC, Wazoo

South:

Ohio St, Memphis

[tyler1389]

K state got screwed...

how do i get into the ants bracket competition. i didn't play last year, but i'd like to.

[clayj41]

Midwest: Florida and Oregon

West: Kansas and Pitt

East: UNC and Georgetown

South: Ohio St. and Texas A&M


Right now I have 3 #1 seeds going to the Final Four. I hate when I do that!

[clayj41]

K state got screwed...

how do i get into the ants bracket competition. i didn't play last year, but i'd like to.

I set up a private bracket for the regular posters in this thread...send me a PM stating your case and I may let you in.:)

[dmbmuskie]

I thought it was very interesting that they went with head to head matchups in putting OSU as the 3rd best team. I thought OSU locked up the top seed despite the fact that they lost to both Florida and UNC.

[tyler1389]

I honestly thought that KU deserved the top spot, I really didn't think that the SEC was very tough.

[willthethrill]

Watch out for Weber State, UCLA.

[SoRight24]

Watch out for Weber State, UCLA.

:lol :lol

:BANG

[dmbmuskie]

I honestly thought that KU deserved the top spot, I really didn't think that the SEC was very tough.

They're the defending national champs, so I understnad it. I don't think it's right though. I thought OSU and Kansas should have been the top 2.

[GavMan33]

(sigh)

Goddamn 8/9. Why? Why did we have to out and play like shit against Rhode Island? And why did we have to give the committee reason to do this to us? I hate my life....

Oh wait. Hold on. We're playing in Lexington? Like, 65 miles from Xavier's campus? Hmmm. We're playing BYU, for the opportunity to play the team everybody at Xavier hates, Ohio State? Excuse me, THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY? You mean, the guy who lied to Xavier, the media, and his own mother, saying he was going to stay at Xavier after coaching the squad to the 2004 Elite Eight? Thad Matta? That guy? We get to play him? We have the opportunity to play arguably the best team in the country, with arguably the second best player in the country? OH SHIT! IT'S ON! LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!! :hump

Where you at Trippin? Show your face to me! :twenty4 FUCK THE BUCKEYES!!!

It doesn't Matta, it's Miller Time!!!

[justinandimcool]

I did my 1st round...I might change a few during the coming days.

I have Duke in the 2nd round, probably sweet 16. I'm not convinced they're THAT bad :lol I do have Wright St. beating Pitt. That's the only 14 I have winning so far, only because Aaron Gray is one inconsistent mofo, and DeShaun Wood impressed me. He's a Lawson type guy that can run you out of the game.

I'm not picking ODU to beat Butler, I think Butler can shoot themselves into a win. It'll be tight tough, obviously I'm tossing up that one.

I have two 12's beating a 5. One is Long Beach State over Tennessee. LBSU has some good big guys and a pretty athletic backcourt that can run with Tennessee. The other is Illinois, because I personally think VT is weak offensively.

I went with the crowd and picked Winthrop over ND. I don't think ND brings anything to the table defensively while Winthrop brings in solid shooters. Another 6-11 upset I have is Stanford. I just think they're a solid team and will play Louisville into a great highly contested game.

10/7 matchups are always tough. I picked GT to beat UNLV, frankly because they're the better team, as well as Texas Tech over BC. I've seen enough of Gonzaga to know they're not beating Indiana. Creighton sucks.

I hate 8/9's. Always tossups. I'm a Pac-10 homer so I picked Arizona. I love Neitzel, so I went with MSU. I want Tubby fired so Jared is happy, so I went Villanova (and I think they're a better team), and I haven't seen either BYU or Xavier, so I picked X because I love Bob.

Surprisingly I have all 4's winning. Virginia and Maryland are vulnerable but I'm sure they'll get the job done. Holy Cross/So Ill is a tossup. Haven't seen enough of either, so I went with the Salukis.

1's and 2's look pretty safe :lol The only thing remotely close to vulnerable is Memphis. But eh.....

[dmbmuskie]

(sigh)

Goddamn 8/9. Why? Why did we have to out and play like shit against Rhode Island? And why did we have to give the committee reason to do this to us? I hate my life....

Oh wait. Hold on. We're playing in Lexington? Like, 65 miles from Xavier's campus? Hmmm. We're playing BYU, for the opportunity to play the team everybody at Xavier hates, Ohio State? Excuse me, THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY? You mean, the guy who lied to Xavier, the media, and his own mother, saying he was going to stay at Xavier after coaching the squad to the 2004 Elite Eight? Thad Matta? That guy? We get to play him? We have the opportunity to play arguably the best team in the country, with arguably the second best player in the country? OH SHIT! IT'S ON! LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!! :hump

Where you at Trippin? Show your face to me! :twenty4 FUCK THE BUCKEYES!!!

It doesn't Matta, it's Miller Time!!!

I really don't see how you can be excited about that.

[willthethrill]

I really don't see how you can be excited about that.
Don't tread on a man's dreams. :hug

[SoRight24]

Indiana-Gonzaga should be a Hell of a game.

[justinandimcool]

Should I do it?

Arizona will beat Florida in the 2nd round. Eh? Ehhh?

[willthethrill]

Should I do it?

Arizona will beat Florida in the 2nd round. Eh? Ehhh?
Interesting, but if any underdog has the talent, it's Arizona.

[thestand]

Should I do it?

Arizona will beat Florida in the 2nd round. Eh? Ehhh?
I thought about it, and my gut wants it, but I can't bring myself to do it.

I can't register for ESPN right now. Anyone else having a problem? I originally tried in Opera, my default browser, but it wouldn't let me. So I switched to Firefox. But neither are letting me. I fill out everything, hit submit, and it brings me back to the top of the page.

[willthethrill]

It won't even let me see an interactive bracket yet, so I dunno.

[Davenumber40]

How far is it from Lousiville to Lexington?

I have to recoordinate my trip now.

It's only 70 miles.

I'm a UK fan, but for your all's sake, pick Nova. I think they're pretty clearly a better team. Kentucky's only chance in Morris playing for the NBA.

[Davenumber40]

:lol Anyone listing to Howland's rant on ESPN?

[thestand]

I found an alternative way of registering, so I'm good to go.

[SoRight24]

:lol Anyone listing to Howland's rant on ESPN?

:lol Yeah, he should try not losing to Washington and Cal in his last 2 games.

I mean come on, CAL???

Who does he think they should be a #1 over?

[willthethrill]

:lol Anyone listing to Howland's rant on ESPN?
Dang, wish I had heard it.

OJ Mayo continues to make me happy that he's headed to the west coast.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/highschool/news/story?id=2794776

[Davenumber40]

:lol Yeah, he should try not losing to Washington and Cal in his last 2 games.

I mean come on, CAL???

Who does he think they should be a #1 over?

Are you kidding? The Pac 10 is the best league in the country.
:lol

[thestand]

ESPN brackets are up.

[Davenumber40]

Good point on the Louisville game from ESPN. There will be an awful lot of people from Lexington there. A&M will have some new fans and that site may play against Louisville.

[UNLTrpt]

:lol Anyone listing to Howland's rant on ESPN?
damn I turned it off.

I want to hear Huggins. I betcha he's pissed.

[41ravens]

Should I do it?

Arizona will beat Florida in the 2nd round. Eh? Ehhh?

i'm gonna do it. call me a homer, whatever. do i think they can do it? sure. will they? probably not.

[thestand]

Alright, ESPN and Yahoo brackets are done.

[willthethrill]

Jay Bilas, stopping broadcasting all my upset picks!!!

[Davenumber40]

So what's everyone think of the committee this year?


I think they made a few mistakes on who got in and who got left out which happens every year.

However, I think some of the sites and some of the seedings are horrible. This could be the worse seeded tournement I've ever seen. Has anyone on the committee watched anything except the conference tournements? How is the AD from Princeton the head of the committee? I think they need to stick to academics.

[HolyCow]

First run through, I have only picked 14 games so far. Only significant upset is ORU over Wazzu.

[Davenumber40]

WTF!?!? Jacksonian and Jeffersonian democracy? What the hell is this guy talking about?

[Davenumber40]

WTF!?!? Jacksonian and Jeffersonian democracy? What the hell is this guy talking about?

I hope somebody heard this.

[kydmb99]

Is there a pool going on on Ants?

[41ravens]

I hope somebody heard this.

i heard something about democracy. i wasn't really listening. they have a tough job making this field and their always gonna piss someone off. they only thing i think they truely got wrong was ark over cuse. syracuse should be in.

[HolyCow]

I'll say it again. K-State getting screwed out of the tourney is maybe the biggest mistake the committee has ever made.

[GavMan33]

I'll be honest. After that third bracket came up and our name still didn't get called, I got nervous. I was thinking where we could come up. After thinking about it, I remembered GW got an 11-seed as the automatic out of the A-10; we were going to be higher than that. Then I thought they still had the Lexington site to do. And I knew Ohio St. was the #1 in that region, and that they were playing in Lexington. Then it hit me. And I was disappointed after it came up for about 3 or 4 minutes.

But what an opportunity. We always want to play the big boys. The Buckeyes are just the REALLY big boys. Let's take care of business on Thursday vs. BYU, and then let's go at it!

I did say that it would be a very big snub if Xavier did not get in. Xavier did get in, but there were still snubs. How about Syracuse? Trying to keep my bias out of it. They were 3-7 vs. Top 50 teams. 3 out of 10 isn't very good against "good" teams. Xavier did the same amount of damage vs. the Top 50 (3 wins) in half as many games (5 games). Coach Boheim was just on ESPN; he talked about how they had a tough nonconference, playing Drexel, Wichita State, and Oklahoma State. "It's not our fault they didn't play well at the end of the year." (Referring to the Cowboys) All 3 of those teams were left out of the tournament, and Drexel probably gets in before you do. It seems the committee sent out a message to the Orange; if you're going to play that horrifically weak nonconference schedule in which you don't leave home and don't play good teams, you BETTER win all of them and you BETTER win the games you're supposed to win in conference (ie-St. John's, UConn).

Drexel. It seems their problem was the in-conference performance. 13-5 vs. the CAA, including 0-4 vs. VCU and ODU. I can see where they could get left out, DESPITE all of the great out-of-conference wins. That's just too bad to see. They went on the road to Syracuse, and won; they went to Villanova, and won; they went to St. Joe's, and won; they went to Creighton, and won. It's a shame.

EDIT: After all my hate vs. Cuse, I still believe they still should have probably been in....

[willthethrill]

Is there a pool going on on Ants?
Yea, on ESPN. Might wanna PM Clay about it.

[kydmb99]

All I know is if Kentucky gets past Nova, Kansas will bend them over and ram them until Tubby cries like a woman.

[willthethrill]

Wow, Jay just picked G'town to win it all.

[41ravens]

wow, what ballsy picks by the espn crew. :rolleyes

[willthethrill]

wow, what ballsy picks by the espn crew. :rolleyes
Yea, no kidding. But you gotta think about it, college basketball is really top-heavy this year.

[41ravens]

Yea, no kidding. But you gotta think about it, college basketball is really top-heavy this year.

yeah, i know. i laugh now and then my picks will end up looking the exact same. they all had at least 3 #1's, though. i just don't see that happening. not this year.

[emu513]

UNC-Texas Sweet 16. Should be interesting.

[Davenumber40]

Syracuse and K St. aren't in the top 4 seeds of the NIT? :ugh

[willthethrill]

Syracuse and K St. aren't in the top 4 seeds of the NIT? :ugh
Under Clemson no less. Talk about adding insult to injury.

[41ravens]

Syracuse and K St. aren't in the top 4 seeds of the NIT? :ugh

joe lunardi actually explained this one in his chat over on espn. the nit committee schedules a lot of their games beforehand for tv purposes. they thought both k-st/syracuse could get in the big dance, therefore didn't put them in the tourney till now.

[SoRight24]

Got my bracket in the ants pool!

[seekupig]

Yeah, Kansas is out in the first round. ;)

i've about had it with your shit! :twenty4 :lol :lol :lol


not sure if this has been covered or not, but anyone else find it kind of fucked up that if #1 seed KU and #2 seed UCLA meet that they'll play in San Jose, CA? that's not really a reward for a #1 seed.....

[justinandimcool]

I've made my picks. They're pretty strange, but hey, so was last year's.

As far as the national champion goes, I'm not kidding when I say A&M is my horse :)

[chiznaz]

I've made my picks. They're pretty strange, but hey, so was last year's.

As far as the national champion goes, I'm not kidding when I say A&M is my horse :)


werd dog, werd:multi

[SoRight24]

I've made my picks. They're pretty strange, but hey, so was last year's.

As far as the national champion goes, I'm not kidding when I say A&M is my horse :)

I have A&M in my Final Four. ;)

[dmbmuskie]

Without giving too much away what do people like to use as strategies in making their picks? I've always liked going with the teams with the best player and teams with experienced guards while staying away from inexperience and teams without a star.

I also like to not look at matchups at first, and instead focus on the individual teams.

[SmoothD41]

anybody think Durant can carry Texas to the final four? I'm debating it, i just don't know. I have them losing to Carolina right now, but I really think he might be able to do it.

[seekupig]

anybody think Durant can carry Texas to the final four? I'm debating it, i just don't know. I have them losing to Carolina right now, but I really think he might be able to do it.

Texas is one of those bracket busters...... they could get to the Final Four or bow out in the second round. from a strategy standpoint, i'll have them losing in the third or fourth round, that way an early upset doesn't kill me down the road.

[dmbmuskie]

anybody think Durant can carry Texas to the final four? I'm debating it, i just don't know. I have them losing to Carolina right now, but I really think he might be able to do it.

I think he could, but it'll depend on how the supporting cast plays. That's a real shitty answer, but it's true.

[SmoothD41]

I think he could, but it'll depend on how the supporting cast plays. That's a real shitty answer, but it's true.

yep.

[UNLTrpt]

i've about had it with your shit! :twenty4 :lol :lol :lol


not sure if this has been covered or not, but anyone else find it kind of fucked up that if #1 seed KU and #2 seed UCLA meet that they'll play in San Jose, CA? that's not really a reward for a #1 seed.....

I've heard the committee doesn't project out to elite eight potentials.

[willthethrill]

Texas is one of those bracket busters...... they could get to the Final Four or bow out in the second round. from a strategy standpoint, i'll have them losing in the third or fourth round, that way an early upset doesn't kill me down the road.
I sure hope that's right.

[dmbmuskie]

yep.

They're 1 of about 12 teams I can see winning.

[UNLTrpt]

oh and I'll make my picks tomorrow. If you want to copy off me I'll give them to you on Wednesday ;)

[dmbmuskie]

Another weird Elite 8 matchup is OSU-Texas AM in San Antonio. I know AM is the 3, but I think they get atleast to the Elite 8.

[cwsrule88]

i havent filled out a bracket yet but i think that georgetown will go far and also i see an old dominion upset over butler.

[DMBCubs25]

Another weird Elite 8 matchup is OSU-Texas AM in San Antonio. I know AM is the 3, but I think they get atleast to the Elite 8.

this is definetely a tough game to pick. agree 100% this wil be the regional final cuz this is a very weak region. I love ohio state but if it comes down to it i think A&M wins because they have the advantage of playing a virtual home game in san antonio, but if they dont get there then id have to take ohio state

[DMBCubs25]

as far as some off the top of my head upset potential
1.ODU over butler
2.Winthrop over ND
3. GT over Unlv then beating wisconsin
4.Oral Roberts over WSU
5. Long beach state over tennesse not too sure
6. Stanford over lousiville
7. VCU over Duke
8.Albany over Virginia

[UNLTrpt]

yeah! Nebraska not in the NIT :monkey

NIT bracket here:

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/brackets/viewable_nit

we should do an NIT pick em challenge...

[dmbmuskie]

this is definetely a tough game to pick. agree 100% this wil be the regional final cuz this is a very weak region. I love ohio state but if it comes down to it i think A&M wins because they have the advantage of playing a virtual home game in san antonio, but if they dont get there then id have to take ohio state

I think Law IV would be the difference in the game. OSU is really really young.

[dmbmuskie]

yeah! Nebraska not in the NIT :monkey

NIT bracket here:

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/brackets/viewable_nit

For all of you with a gambling problem out there.:lol

The only person I have ever known to bet on the NIT played internet poker in all of his free time.

[Davenumber40]

I just looked at the sweet 16 teams from last year and how they did in conference tournaments. No team in the sweet 16 last year played 4 games in their tournament. 8 of the 16 played in their championship game. Only 5 of the 11 power conference teams in the 16 played in their chamionship. Of teams from the power conferences who played 4 games in their tournements, they were 1-2. Both teams in the championship played in conference championship. If you remove those two teams from the group of the 11 (S. Carolina didn't make the tournement) the other 9 teams went 9-9 in the big dance.

*edit*
Only 3 of the 16 final teams went out in the quarterfinals of their conference tournement (all 3 were in the first game).

[seekupig]

couple of questions.....

1. how did Florida become the overall #1 seed?

2. how did Duke get a 6 seed?

[justinandimcool]

I think you'd like how far Kansas goes in my bracket Dustin ;)

[justinandimcool]

couple of questions.....

1. how did Florida become the overall #1 seed?

2. how did Duke get a 6 seed?

1. No idea.

2. The name.

[clayj41]

I think you'd like how far Kansas goes in my bracket Dustin ;)

I initially had them going to the championship game. I'm reconsidering that right now though...I may pick UCLA to beat them in the Elite 8.:shrug

[justinandimcool]

I initially had them going to the championship game. I'm reconsidering that right now though...I may pick UCLA to beat them in the Elite 8.:shrug

I actually have Kansas getting past the 1st half of their first game. I'm reconsidering that as well :shrug

[kydmb99]

I agree that Florida probably didn't deserve the overall #1 seed, but I do think they are the best team in the tournament... with Kansas and OSU close seconds.

[justinandimcool]

Seriously though, I think Kansas is pretty much even with UCLA defensively and when it comes to athleticism. It will come down to the last stretch. And, well, you don't expect me to pick UCLA do you?

[chiznaz]

Well I'll know tomorrow if I'll be flying out to Lexington.

The tickets are like $100 more in Lex than they are in NOL. wtf is the deal with that?

[kydmb99]

I initially had them going to the championship game. I'm reconsidering that right now though...I may pick UCLA to beat them in the Elite 8.:shrug

Hmm... I don't think UCLA could match up with Kansas.

[HolyCow]

Well, I just spent the last two hours filling this thing out.

I have never been less confident about one. I don't feel good about it at all.


Oh well.


And just to check, this is the ***Official March Madness*** thread still right? No one is moving over to the stickied thread in nDMBc? Because I have called this one home the past two years.

[clayj41]

Well, I just spent the last two hours filling this thing out.

I have never been less confident about one. I don't feel good about it at all.


Oh well.


And just to check, this is the ***Official March Madness*** thread still right? No one is moving over to the stickied thread in nDMBc? Because I have called this one home the past two years.

I'm staying in here, but I may check in there every once and awhile to laugh at stupid posts.:lol

[justinandimcool]

I've never ever felt good about my bracket, ever. I figured I'd feel different this year since I've followed alot of these teams all season, but hell no.

[clayj41]

Hmm... I don't think UCLA could match up with Kansas.

I'm probably gonna keep KU in my Final Four. I just hate the fact that I have three #1's in there though...:shrug

[clayj41]

I've never ever felt good about my bracket, ever. I figured I'd feel different this year since I've followed alot of these teams all season, but hell no.

Yeah, I've watched more basketball this year than I ever have before. It hasn't helped me in the least.:lol

[kydmb99]

I don't know, although I think there will be some upsets for sure, it seems pretty top heavy this year. I'd be really suprised if there weren't at least 2 #1 seeds in the Final 4... Although I say this every fucking year and they always lose.

[justinandimcool]

I'm probably gonna keep KU in my Final Four. I just hate the fact that I have three #1's in there though...:shrug

I hate the fact that I have 3 Big 12 teams in there. I like my "Cindrella" team though.

[clayj41]

I don't know, although I think there will be some upsets for sure, it seems pretty top heavy this year. I'd be really suprised if there weren't at least 2 #1 seeds in the Final 4... Although I say this every fucking year and they always lose.

It does feel that way this year, but then again I thought the same thing last year.:lol

The inconsistency of many teams is what worries me. You just don't know what team is gonna show up. For example, I think UNC is capable of beating anyone when they play their best, but I just don't know if they can win 6 consecutive games.

[clayj41]

I hate the fact that I have 3 Big 12 teams in there. I like my "Cindrella" team though.

You got Texas in there or something?

[chiznaz]

I haven't looked at the brackets yet. I've been doing some job application stuff. But off they top of my head, the Texas Tech-BC game is going to be a hard on to predict.

[justinandimcool]

You got Texas in there or something?

Texas A&M, Texas, Kansas.....and someone else. ;)

[chiznaz]

You got Texas in there or something?
It better not be Texas Tech:lol

[justinandimcool]

I haven't looked at the brackets yet. I've been doing some job application stuff. But off they top of my head, the Texas Tech-BC game is going to be a hard on to predict.

That's the only one you can think of? :lol :)

[kydmb99]

It does feel that way this year, but then again I thought the same thing last year.:lol

The inconsistency of many teams is what worries me. You just don't know what team is gonna show up. For example, I think UNC is capable of beating anyone when they play their best, but I just don't know if they can win 6 consecutive games.

Yeah, that's true. I mean look at Florida, even. They went on a cold streak not too long ago but now they look like they're ready to roll through the tournament like they did last year.

The only real teams that have REALLY impressed me though are Florida, Kansas, Georgetown, and Ohio State.

Then there are teams like UNC, Texas, A&M, UCLA that I think could make a run, but just haven't totally convinced me yet.

[DMBCubs25]

i definetely dont see kansas in the final four, there probably gonna face ucla in the elite 8, which is gonna be in san jose, virtually a home game for ucla like they had in last years elite8 so i think ucla takes this region

[clayj41]

I haven't looked at the brackets yet. I've been doing some job application stuff. But off they top of my head, the Texas Tech-BC game is going to be a hard on to predict.

:thumbsup That's another instance of me wondering which team is gonna show up.

[emu513]

Florida is again going to beat Ohio State for the national champhionship. That's my gut feeling.

[clayj41]

Texas A&M, Texas, Kansas.....and someone else. ;)

I'm banking on your fourth being Florida. Let me guess, you've got A&M winning it all?

[clayj41]

Florida is again going to beat Ohio State for the national champhionship. That's my gut feeling.

Actually, right now I have it the other way around.

[justinandimcool]

I'm banking on your fourth being Florida. Let me guess, you've got A&M winning it all?

Not Florida. Ew. I think they're gonna do it, but I hate them so I let my bias overtake my logic and went against em.

And yeah I've got A&M winning it all. I've had em on my sig for 2 weeks now, might as well stick to my guns. I think they've got a good, legit shot at it too.

[kydmb99]

I don't know, I just don't see anyone other than KU beating Florida. I think they were pretty much in cruise control during the season, but are taking it to a whole new level. I live in SEC country so I got to see all of their games in the SEC tourney and they made everyone look like a fucking joke.

[clayj41]

Not Florida. Ew. I think they're gonna do it, but I hate them so I let my bias overtake my logic and went against em.

And yeah I've got A&M winning it all. I've had em on my sig for 2 weeks now, might as well stick to my guns. I think they've got a good, legit shot at it too.

Yeah, I was on their bandwagon until I saw the way they finished the season. I have them bowing out in the elite 8.

[dmbmuskie]

Florida is again going to beat Ohio State for the national champhionship. That's my gut feeling.

I don't even want to think about that nonsense.

Florida's really cocky, and I think that will bite them in the ass sometime this month.

[clayj41]

I don't know, I just don't see anyone other than KU beating Florida. I think they were pretty much in cruise control during the season, but are taking it to a whole new level. I live in SEC country so I got to see all of their games in the SEC tourney and they made everyone look like a fucking joke.

They're tough, no doubt. I watched all their SEC tourney games as well, but I have to say that the level of competition isn't necessarily up to par. They could easily win it all again, but I don't feel like picking a repeat champion.

[justinandimcool]

I don't know, I just don't see anyone other than KU beating Florida. I think they were pretty much in cruise control during the season, but are taking it to a whole new level. I live in SEC country so I got to see all of their games in the SEC tourney and they made everyone look like a fucking joke.

Georgia, Ole Miss, Arkansas....

Eh, no doubt they're good, hell even great, but I don't think there's been any indication in the SEC tourney whether they'll play as dominant against teams who will actually challenge them. I think labeling them as unstoppable is pushing it.

[kydmb99]

They're tough, no doubt. I watched all their SEC tourney games as well, but I have to say that the level of competition isn't necessarily up to par. They could easily win it all again, but I don't feel like picking a repeat champion.

Yeah, I understand, but since they've totally made Kentucky their bitch, I can't really pick against them. :lol

[justinandimcool]

Yeah, I understand, but since they've totally made Kentucky their bitch, I can't really pick against them. :lol

Hasn't Kentucky been everyone's bitch though? :confused ;)

[kydmb99]

Georgia, Ole Miss, Arkansas....

Eh, no doubt they're good, hell even great, but I don't think there's been any indication in the SEC tourney whether they'll play as dominant against teams who will actually challenge them. I think labeling them as unstoppable is pushing it.

They're definitely not unstoppable, but they just present so many matchup problems. They really don't have a weakness in their starting 5 IMO.

[HolyCow]

I've never ever felt good about my bracket, ever. I figured I'd feel different this year since I've followed alot of these teams all season, but hell no.
:lol

Same here.

I originally had three Big XII teams... then I changed.

REGION BY REGION BREAKDOWN

ST. LOUIS
-I am not sold on Florida. I just don't like them this year. But I keep looking in that region to see who will take them down. Butler? Maybe, but it is a stretch. So I went with a team I said I wouldn't go with - Wisconsin in the Final Four. I also went against this year's popular Cindy. I took Notre Dame over Winthrop and even went with the Irish over Oregon. I don't like taking a hot team that had a serious slump.
WISCONSIN


SAN JOSE
-I always try to fight the urge to pick Kansas. But again, who is there to beat them? They are loaded with talent, but Bill Self's track record makes me skeptical. I have VCU over Duke and Indiana over UCLA in round 2. For some reason, I always go with the Hoosiers to the 16... I have no idea why. I wanted to take Pitt over KU, but I went with the Jayhawks.
KANSAS

EAST RUTHERFORD
-Anyone else having serious Cuse in 2003 flashbacks with this region? Superfrosh going to lead his team to the title? I know I am. Georgetown is the trendy pick here, but I'm not sold. I even tinkered with the idea of my Cindy - ORU - taking them down in the 16. But in the 8 I have Texas beating the Hoyas in a thiller. Durant is too good not to take this team to the final four.
TEXAS

SAN ANTONIO
-Easy region here, I thought. Ohio St has lost to three clubs - Florida, North Carolina and Wisconsin, all on the road. They are very good. Plus, who doesn't want to see an Oden - Durant showdown? Plus, this region has some poor high seeds. Tennessee and Virginia? Who do you take going to the 16 there? I've got the Cavs, but I don't like it. Take NEVADA too the round of 16. Memphis hasn't played anyone and Nick Fazekas is dang good. It comes down to A&M and Ohio St. I am taking the Buckeyes because of who they have played.
OHIO STATE




I don't know if anyone read that, but that is what I am going with.

[kydmb99]

Hasn't Kentucky been everyone's bitch though? :confused ;)

No, just Tubby Smith.

[clayj41]

Interesting reasoning Royce...well, I've had it with looking at my picks for now. I'm gonna fill out a bunch of other brackets anyway, the only one I want to count is the Private Ants one I set up so I can have bragging rights.:D Right now I have a #7 and a #11 seed in my Sweet 16, but I might change that later.

[HolyCow]

I think I may back off and take Duke over VCU. That is one I am going to fight all week.

I secretly like Jake's pick of Virginia. I have the high seeds doing really well, which is scary. I think I need to find another 4 or 5 that I like....


I am going to lose my mind over this.

[clayj41]

I think I may back off and take Duke over VCU. That is one I am going to fight all week.

I secretly like Jake's pick of Virginia. I have the high seeds doing really well, which is scary. I think I need to find another 4 or 5 that I like....


I am going to lose my mind over this.

I love reading Jake's picks! As for the Duke-VCU game, I've got VCU winning only because I don't think it will hurt me too bad.

[chiznaz]

alright finished with the school stuff. time to read up on the teams and make some picks. I'll be back in a couple of hours:)

[HolyCow]

I love reading Jake's picks! As for the Duke-VCU game, I've got VCU winning only because I don't think it will hurt me too bad.
Yeah, I have that winner going out to Pitt though. Coach K's tourney track record lingers in my mind, but it seems like Duke lets everyone down everytime there is any hope.

So I ain't buying em.

[clayj41]

alright finished with the school stuff. time to read up on the teams and make some picks. I'll be back in a couple of hours:)

I'm gonna go do some research myself...even though I said I was done with my picks for the night.:lol

[UNLTrpt]

[/B][/I]EAST RUTHERFORD
[FONT=Courier New][FONT=Verdana]-Anyone else having serious Cuse in 2003 flashbacks with this region? Superfrosh going to lead his team to the title? I know I am. Georgetown is the trendy pick here, but I'm not sold. I even tinkered with the idea of my Cindy - [COLOR=Green]ORU[COLOR=Black] - taking them down in the 16. But in the 8 I have Texas beating the Hoyas in a thiller. Durant is too good not to take this team to the final four.
[COLOR=DarkOrange]TEXAS[COLOR=DarkOrange][COLOR=Black]


My only problem with Tex-ass is they've had two HUGE collapses to KU late in the season. If you want to win a national championship you have close out games like that against big teams.

Also I don't see a Gerry McNamara or Hakim Warrick on Tex-ass' team.

Durant is good but he can't do it all by himself and I don't think his supporting cast is good enough to pick him up.

[HolyCow]

My only problem with Tex-ass is they've had two HUGE collapses to KU late in the season. If you want to win a national championship you have close out games like that against big teams.

Also I don't see a Gerry McNamara or Hakim Warrick on Tex-ass' team.

Durant is good but he can't do it all by himself and I don't think his supporting cast is good enough to pick him up.
I know, that is why I am worried about them. I think J.J. Abrams is your McNamara... Damion James is not Hakim Warrick though.

Don't get me wrong, I hate picking the Whorns, but I gotta go with my gut.

[GavMan33]

My only problem with Tex-ass is they've had two HUGE collapses to KU late in the season. If you want to win a national championship you have close out games like that against big teams.

Also I don't see a Gerry McNamara or Hakim Warrick on Tex-ass' team.

Durant is good but he can't do it all by himself and I don't think his supporting cast is good enough to pick him up.

:confused What? 2003 still sickens me....

[GavMan33]

Haven't looked at a bracket yet, I'm taking my Sunday to relax. I'm going to go to bed now, dreaming of a HUGE upset on Saturday in Lexington, Kentucky....:angel

[justinandimcool]

Took the time to write this out for yall :) credit http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney07/bracket

Thursday, March 15th, all times Eastern (I think)

12:20: Maryland vs Davidson
12:25: Boston College vs Texas Tech
12:40: Louisville vs Stanford
2:40: Washington State vs Oral Roberts
2:50: Butler vs Old Dominion
2:55: Georgetown vs Belmont
3:10: Texas A&M vs Penn
5:10: Vanderbilt vs George Washington
7:10: Ohio State vs Central Connecticut State
7:10: Duke vs VCU
7:20: Marquette vs Michigan State
7:25: UCLA vs Weber State
9:40: BYU vs Xavier
9:40: Pittsburgh vs Wright State
9:55: Indiana vs Gonzaga
9:40: North Carolina vs Eastern Kentucky

Friday, March 16th
12:15: Virginia vs Albany
12:25: UNLV vs Georgia Tech
12:30: Memphis vs North Texas
2:35: Notre Dame vs Winthrop
2:45: Tennessee vs Long Beach State
2:55: Wisconsin vs Corpus Christi
3:00: Nevada vs Creighton
5:05: Oregon vs Miami (OH)
7:10: Kansas vs Niagara/Florida A&M
7:10: Virginia Tech vs Illinois
7:20: Arizona vs Purdue
7:25: Texas vs New Mexico State
9:40: Southern Illinois vs Holy Cross
9:40: Kentucky vs Villanova
9:50: Florida vs Jackson State
9:55: USC vs Arkansas

[justinandimcool]

For you West Coast People: aka me

9:20: Maryland vs Davidson
9:25: Boston College vs Texas Tech
9:40: Louisville vs Stanford
11:40: Washington State vs Oral Roberts
11:50: Butler vs Old Dominion
11:55: Georgetown vs Belmont
12:10: Texas A&M vs Penn
2:10: Vanderbilt vs George Washington
4:10: Ohio State vs Central Connecticut State
4:10: Duke vs VCU
4:20: Marquette vs Michigan State
4:25: UCLA vs Weber State
6:40: BYU vs Xavier
6:40: Pittsburgh vs Wright State
6:40: North Carolina vs Eastern Kentucky
6:55: Indiana vs Gonzaga

Friday, March 16th
9:15: Virginia vs Albany
9:25: UNLV vs Georgia Tech
9:30: Memphis vs North Texas
11:35: Notre Dame vs Winthrop
11:45: Tennessee vs Long Beach State
11:55: Wisconsin vs Corpus Christi
12:00: Nevada vs Creighton
2:05: Oregon vs Miami (OH)
4:10: Kansas vs Niagara/Florida A&M
4:10: Virginia Tech vs Illinois
4:20: Arizona vs Purdue
4:25: Texas vs New Mexico State
6:40: Southern Illinois vs Holy Cross
6:40: Kentucky vs Villanova
6:50: Florida vs Jackson State
6:55: USC vs Arkansas

I hate school :lorraine

[clayj41]

So UNC and Indiana both play late games on Thursday...guess I know what game will be broadcasted here.:rolleyes

[thestand]

My Sweet 16 doesn't have a team above above a 5 seed :lorraine

I hate not having at least one good upset. Albany looked great this year, and I do have them taking Virginia, but I can't see them doing anything else.

[gbs3769]

Biggest load of horse shit I have ever fucking seen in my 25 years on this planet.

- Primo

[gbs3769]

:lol :lol :lol

Nice call :lol :lol :lol .
:shrug

At least we kicked your ass in Lacrosse on Saturday.

- Primo

[gbs3769]

My heart goes out to Primo :lorraine
:shrug

Thanks.

- Primo

[SoRight24]

Yeah thats some bullshit my man.

Feel bad for you guys, I'd be pissed too.

[seekupig]

Biggest load of horse shit I have ever fucking seen in my 25 years on this planet.

- Primo


sorry about that man. i can't believe they didn't get in. more than that, i can't believe some of the teams that did get in ahead of them. the only Big East team in history to go 10-6 and not make the tourney. i just don't get it.... :confused

[bubba40]

:shrug

At least we kicked your ass in Lacrosse on Saturday.

- Primo

Congrats, that has nothing to do with GU's bball team.

You guys deserved getting in over Purdue and Old Dominion.

[gbs3769]

sorry about that man. i can't believe they didn't get in. more than that, i can't believe some of the teams that did get in ahead of them. the only Big East team in history to go 10-6 and not make the tourney. i just don't get it.... :confused
And have 20 wins.

Seton Hall went 10-6 in the league a few years ago and did not make it as well as someone else recently.

However, we are the first team from a major conference to go 10-6 in conference, have at least 21 wins and not make the tournament. Biggest load of horse shit ever.

And the commissioner of the selection committee had no answer. He completely danced around the questions put to him. I would be upset, however content, if he could have given us a reason. But his answer was that they looked at the whole body of work. Really? What the hell did you see, then?

- Primo

[bubba40]

And have 20 wins.

Seton Hall went 10-6 in the league a few years ago and did not make it as well as someone else recently.

However, we are the first team from a major conference to go 10-6 in conference, have at least 21 wins and not make the tournament. Biggest load of horse shit ever.

And the commissioner of the selection committee had no answer. He completely danced around the questions put to him. I would be upset, however content, if he could have given us a reason. But his answer was that they looked at the whole body of work. Really? What the hell did you see, then?

- Primo

Why you didn't get in: http://www.bracketography.com/selectioncommittee.htm

Not one guy affiliated with the BE.

[seekupig]

what an ass.... i really can't stand this guy.

Joakim Noah's "dance" after the game yesterday......:BANG :ugh

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvQbQUv9qBw

[gbs3769]

Why you didn't get in: http://www.bracketography.com/selectioncommittee.htm

Not one guy affiliated with the BE.
Yup. That is how Illinois got in, Virginia got a 4 seed, Arkansas got in, etc.

- Primo

[seekupig]

Yup. That is how Illinois got in, Virginia got a 4 seed, Arkansas got in, etc.

- Primo

Jim Boeheim is on Cold Pizza right now....

[UNC41]

Florida gets a walk to Atlanta. UNC has a brutal road. Syracuse got screwed ... but not as much as Drexel. Right now I've got UNC, Florida, Kansas headed to the Final Four and am trying to decide between four teams in the South.

[Davenumber40]

The committee this year did an all around poor job. The people the NIT recruited would have made a much better group.

[seekupig]

Florida gets a walk to Atlanta. UNC has a brutal road. Syracuse got screwed ... but not as much as Drexel. Right now I've got UNC, Florida, Kansas headed to the Final Four and am trying to decide between four teams in the South.

i still can't get over KU potentially playing UCLA in California. i'm having a hard time picking the Jayhawks to make it to Atlanta....

[UNC41]

i still can't get over KU potentially playing UCLA in California. i'm having a hard time picking the Jayhawks to make it to Atlanta....

That is tough, but I think the Jayhawks play defense as tough as the Bruins and UCLA has nobody that can stop Julian Wright.

I also think Hansbrough sheds the mask midway through the first half against Texas.

[41ravens]

I think I may back off and take Duke over VCU. That is one I am going to fight all week.
I secretly like Jake's pick of Virginia. I have the high seeds doing really well, which is scary. I think I need to find another 4 or 5 that I like....


I am going to lose my mind over this.

i originally had vcu as well, but then thought, "wait, it's fucking duke." love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to win at least one game. i have the dookies losing to pitt in the second round.

as to the rest of this mess, i'm still trying to sort it all out. this is a really tough tourney to call.

[HolyCow]

i originally had vcu as well, but then thought, "wait, it's fucking duke." love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to win at least one game. i have the dookies losing to pitt in the second round.

as to the rest of this mess, i'm still trying to sort it all out. this is a really tough tourney to call.
I changed it. I had to.

I don't even think I'll be mad if VCU actually ends up winning, because picking Duke is the correct choice.

[willthethrill]

what an ass.... i really can't stand this guy.

Joakim Noah's "dance" after the game yesterday......:BANG :ugh

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvQbQUv9qBw
Yea, they kept showing it on ESPN. What a freakin' douche. I'm hoping for a title matchup where Tyler just beasts the shit outta him.

[seekupig]

I'm hoping for a title matchup where Tyler just beasts the shit outta him.

i'd rather see KU beat Florida in the semi's, then have a UNC v. KU title game... :thumbsup

[willthethrill]

i'd rather see KU beat Florida in the semi's, then have a UNC v. KU title game... :thumbsup
Yea. Well then a Julian Wright crotch-in-the-face dunk. I'd LOVE a KU/UNC game, that'd be epic. Fastest to 100?

[41ravens]

is it just me, or did the #1's get kinda screwed in locations.

florida is in the midwest with wisconsin. where's the regional? st. louis - a midwest city.

kansas with ucla. regional? san jose, ca

unc with gtown. regional? east rutherford, nj

osu with memphis/a&m. regional? san antonio

this has probably been discussed already, but the #2 seeds (a&m's a 3) have virtual home games in the regional finals. kinda sucks for the #1's.

edit: sucks for me, too. do i think ucla can beat kansas? probably not. can ucla beat kansas in california? i'd lean towards yes on that one. kansas won't have a single fan in those stands rooting for them.

[UNLTrpt]

Come one, come all to the 2nd best pick ‘em tournament that you’ll ever enter. It’s the 2007 antsmarching.org NIT pick ‘em challenge. That’s right, it’s a pick ‘em tournament for those of you who it seems year in and year out can never do well in the big dance. Here’s a chance to drop down a level, sharpen the picking tools and pick the best of the rest. If you feel like you got snubbed in the Championship Week Challenge, get your redemption in the NIT pick ‘em challenge. They call the winner of the NIT the 66th best team in the nation, but if you win we’ll call you #2 in our hearts.

Now in honor of the NIT tournament being the second best March postseason tournament out there, I’m naming each bracket for those loveable losers. You know, those teams who just could never seem to get it done when it counted.

In the Buffalo Bills Region:

1) MISSISSIPPI ST. (18-12) vs. 8) Mississippi Valley St. (18-14)
4) BRADLEY (21-12) vs. 5) Providence (18-12)
3) MICHIGAN (21-12) vs. 6) Utah St. (23-10)
2) FLORIDA ST. (20-12) vs. 7) Toledo (19-12)

In the Chicago Cubs Region:

1) WEST VIRGINIA (22-9) vs. 8) Delaware St. (21-11)
4) UMASS (23-8) vs. 5) Alabama (20-11)
3) DREXEL (23-8) vs. 6) NC St. (18-15)
2) OKLAHOMA ST. (22-11) vs. 7) Marist (24-8)

In the Golden State Warriors Region:

1) AIR FORCE (23-8) vs. 8) Austin Peay (21-11)
4) GEORGIA (18-13) vs. 5) Fresno St. (22-9)
3) DEPAUL (18-13) vs. 6) Hofstra (22-9)
2) KANSAS ST. (22-10) vs. 7) Vermont (25-6)

In the St. Louis Blues Region:
1) CLEMSON (21-10) vs. 8) East Tennessee St. (24-9)
4) OLE MISS (20-11) vs. 5) Appalachian St. (25-7)
3) MISSOURI ST. (22-10) vs. 6) San Diego St. (21-10)
2) SYRACUSE (22-10) vs. 7) South Alabama (20-11)

The Final 4:

Buffalo Bills region vs. Chicago Cubs Region

Golden St. Warriors region vs. St. Louis Blues Region

Very simple pick ‘em rules:
Pick the winners.

See, doesn’t get anymore simple than that.

Scoring:
1pt – 1st round
2pts – 2nd round
4pts – 3rd round
8pts – 4th round
16pts – Championship

Also predict the final score of the championship game. We’ll use that as the tiebreaker. We’ll go on scoring differential. If Delaware St. beats Syracuse in the championship game by 20 and two people are tied who ever comes closest to a 20 point differential we’ll declare them the “champion.” If there’s still a tie after that, fuck it, we have co-champions. It still means you’re second best, what does it matter if you’re second best tied with someone else.

I’ll keep track of scores.

Get your picks in soon, NIT games start tomorrow night.

Brackets can be viewed here:

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/brackets/viewable_nit

Good Luck!

[seekupig]

do i think ucla can beat kansas? probably not. can ucla beat kansas in california? i'd lean towards yes on that one. kansas won't have a single fan in those stands rooting for them.

you'll be suprised..... UCLA will obviously have more fans, but KU fans travel VERY well and will be represented should that game happen...

[willthethrill]

Come one, come all to the 2nd best pick ‘em tournament that you’ll ever enter. It’s the 2007 antsmarching.org NIT pick ‘em challenge.

All my hopes and dreams! :multi :multi

[UNLTrpt]

kansas won't have a single fan in those stands rooting for them.

Oh don't you worry sir, Jayhawk fans will make sure Rock Chalk is heard if they win. They travel extremely well. They're the Nebraska Football fans of college basketball.

[UNLTrpt]

everybody better fuckin sign up or I'll be pissed.

I'll send out a PM reminder during my lunch hour.

[clayj41]

1) MISSISSIPPI ST. def. 8) Mississippi Valley St.
5) Providence def. 4) Bradley
3) MICHIGAN def. 6) Utah St.
2) FLORIDA ST. def. 7) Toledo

5) Providence def. 1) Mississippi St.
2) Florida St. def. 3) Michigan

2) Florida St. def. Providence



1) WEST VIRGINIA def. 8) Delaware St.
4) UMASS def. 5) Alabama
3) Drexel def. 6) NC St.
2) OKLAHOMA ST. def. 7) Marist

1) West Virginia def. 4) UMASS
3) Drexel def. 2) OK St.

3) Drexel def. 1) West Virginia



1) AIR FORCE def. 8) Austin Peay
5) Fresno St. def. 4) Georgia
6) Hofstra def. 3) Depaul
2) KANSAS ST. def. 7) Vermont

1) Air Force def. 5) Fresno St.
2) Kansas St. def. 6) Hofstra

2) Kansas St. def. 1) Air Force



1) CLEMSON def. 8) East Tennessee St.
5) Appalachian St. def. 4) Ole Miss
6) San Diego St. def. 3) Missouri St.
2) SYRACUSE def. 7) South Alabama

5) Appalachian St. def. 1) Clemson
2) Syracuse def. 6) San Diego St.

2) Syracuse def. 5) Appalachian St.



2) Florida St. def. 3) Drexel
2) Syracuse def. 2) Kansas St.

2) Florida St. def. 2) Syracuse 75-71

[UNC41]

what an ass.... i really can't stand this guy.

Joakim Noah's "dance" after the game yesterday......:BANG :ugh

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvQbQUv9qBw

Joakim Noah's ass kicking list ...

1. Kentucky cheerleader
2. Vandy coach
3. His own dignity

[dmb71687]

I know it's been mentioned but it will take to long for me to go back and find out, what are we doing for an Ants tourny? I heard something about ESPN but am unfamiliar with registratiion process and whaaat not.

[unccrombie]

"Tubby's our basketball coach. He's done a great job of representing the platform of Kentucky basketball. We'll always look to make adjustments to the things we've got to do to get better. Tubby and I will do that collectively."
-- Kentucky athletic director Mitch Barnhart

from espn

[gbs3769]

I got my tickets for the NIT first round. Section 110, row GG.

Bringing signs that say, "SnUbbed" and "Gottlieb stole my NCAA tickets."

- Primo

[UNLTrpt]

Primo, make your picks for the NIT pick em.

[gbs3769]

Primo, make your picks for the NIT pick em.
I'm still bitter and considering not making any picks for anything this year.

- Primo

[UNLTrpt]

I'm still bitter and considering not making any picks for anything this year.

- Primo

:banned

[gbs3769]

:banned
They took all the fun out of March yesterday.

- Primo

[UNLTrpt]

They took all the fun out of March yesterday.

- Primo

there's NEVER been any fun in March for Nebraska fans. I've coped.

[UNC41]

Syracuse did get the shaft, but hopefully this will cause Boeheim to grow a pair when it comes to non-conference scheduling.

[GavMan33]

Syracuse did get the shaft, but hopefully this will cause Boeheim to grow a pair when it comes to non-conference scheduling.

:thumbsup

[GavMan33]

I'll be honest. After that third bracket came up and our name still didn't get called, I got nervous. I was thinking where we could come up. After thinking about it, I remembered GW got an 11-seed as the automatic out of the A-10; we were going to be higher than that. Then I thought they still had the Lexington site to do. And I knew Ohio St. was the #1 in that region, and that they were playing in Lexington. Then it hit me. And I was disappointed after it came up for about 3 or 4 minutes.

But what an opportunity. We always want to play the big boys. The Buckeyes are just the REALLY big boys. Let's take care of business on Thursday vs. BYU, and then let's go at it!

I did say that it would be a very big snub if Xavier did not get in. Xavier did get in, but there were still snubs. How about Syracuse? Trying to keep my bias out of it. They were 3-7 vs. Top 50 teams. 3 out of 10 isn't very good against "good" teams. Xavier did the same amount of damage vs. the Top 50 (3 wins) in half as many games (5 games). Coach Boheim was just on ESPN; he talked about how they had a tough nonconference, playing Drexel, Wichita State, and Oklahoma State. "It's not our fault they didn't play well at the end of the year." (Referring to the Cowboys) All 3 of those teams were left out of the tournament, and Drexel probably gets in before you do. It seems the committee sent out a message to the Orange; if you're going to play that horrifically weak nonconference schedule in which you don't leave home and don't play good teams, you BETTER win all of them and you BETTER win the games you're supposed to win in conference (ie-St. John's, UConn).

Drexel. It seems their problem was the in-conference performance. 13-5 vs. the CAA, including 0-4 vs. VCU and ODU. I can see where they could get left out, DESPITE all of the great out-of-conference wins. That's just too bad to see. They went on the road to Syracuse, and won; they went to Villanova, and won; they went to St. Joe's, and won; they went to Creighton, and won. It's a shame.

EDIT: After all my hate vs. Cuse, I still believe they still should have probably been in....

bump

[41ravens]

only one champion from the previous year (mich. st. in '01) has made it back to the final four in the last 5 years. which makes my case for not picking florida even better.

[GavMan33]

1) MISSISSIPPI ST. def. 8) Mississippi Valley St.
5) Providence def. 4) Bradley
3) MICHIGAN def. 6) Utah St.
7) Toledo def. 2) Florida St.

5) Providence def. 1) Mississippi St.
3) Michigan def. 7) Toledo

3) Michigan def. 5) Providence



1) WEST VIRGINIA def. 8) Delaware St.
4) UMASS def. 5) Alabama
3) Drexel def. 6) NC St.
7) Marist def. 2) Oklahoma St.

4) UMass def. 1) West Virginia
3) Drexel def. 7) Marist

4) UMass def. 3) Drexel



1) AIR FORCE def. 8) Austin Peay
4) Georgia def. 5) Fresno St.
6) Hofstra def. 3) Depaul
2) KANSAS ST. def. 7) Vermont

1) Air Force def. 5) Fresno St.
2) Kansas St. def. 6) Hofstra

2) Kansas St. def. 1) Air Force



1) CLEMSON def. 8) East Tennessee St.
5) Appalachian St. def. 4) Ole Miss
6) San Diego St. def. 3) Missouri St.
2) SYRACUSE def. 7) South Alabama

5) Appalachian St. def. 1) Clemson
2) Syracuse def. 6) San Diego St.

2) Syracuse def. 5) Appalachian St.



4) UMass def. 3) Michigan
2) Syracuse def. 2) Kansas St.

2) Syracuse def. 4) UMass 69-58[/quote]

[UNLTrpt]

WOOT!

two entrants

[gbs3769]

Syracuse did get the shaft, but hopefully this will cause Boeheim to grow a pair when it comes to non-conference scheduling.
I just don't buy that. Oklahoma St. and Wichita St. were good teams when we played them. They were ranked 24 and 22 respectively. They were good teams when they were scheduled. And Drexel did nothing but go on the road and beat people like Syracuse and Villanova.

- Primo

[UNC41]

I just don't buy that. Oklahoma St. and Wichita St. were good teams when we played them. They were ranked 24 and 22 respectively. They were good teams when they were scheduled. And Drexel did nothing but go on the road and beat people like Syracuse and Villanova.

- Primo

But neither are tournament teams when it all comes down to it. You've got to get out and play some quality teams out of New York.

[mizzoudmbfan]

But neither are tournament teams when it all comes down to it. You've got to get out and play some quality teams out of New York.

I think what Primo is saying is that they were tournament caliber teams when the schedule was made. How was Boeheim supposed to know they would tank when they were scheduled last spring(or whenever)?

[UNC41]

I think what Primo is saying is that they were tournament caliber teams when the schedule was made. How was Boeheim supposed to know they would tank when they were scheduled last spring(or whenever)?

I get that. I think Syracuse rarely leaving New York for a non-conference game is their biggest fault. Even with that though, I thinkthey were the second biggest snub this year.

[UNLTrpt]

I get that. I think Syracuse rarely leaving New York for a non-conference game is their biggest fault. Even with that though, I thinkthey were the second biggest snub this year.

:thumbsup

[dmbmuskie]

only one champion from the previous year (mich. st. in '01) has made it back to the final four in the last 5 years. which makes my case for not picking florida even better.

The Gators are a much different team than most defending champions. The team they are comparable to, the Arizona team with Bibby, lost with the whole team back. I have no clue this year.

[HolyCow]

In the Buffalo Bills Region:

1) MISSISSIPPI ST. (18-12) vs. 8) Mississippi Valley St. (18-14)
4) BRADLEY (21-12) vs. 5) Providence (18-12)
3) MICHIGAN (21-12) vs. 6) Utah St. (23-10)
2) FLORIDA ST. (20-12) vs. 7) Toledo (19-12)

1. Miss. St vs. 4. Bradley
3. Michigan vs. 2. FSU

3. Michigan vs. 4. Bradley

In the Chicago Cubs Region:

1) WEST VIRGINIA (22-9) vs. 8) Delaware St. (21-11)
4) UMASS (23-8) vs. 5) Alabama (20-11)
3) DREXEL (23-8) vs. 6) NC St. (18-15)
2) OKLAHOMA ST. (22-11) vs. 7) Marist (24-8)

1. WVU vs. Alabama
6. NC ST. vs. OSU

1. WVU vs. 6. NC ST

In the Golden State Warriors Region:

1) AIR FORCE (23-8) vs. 8) Austin Peay (21-11)
4) GEORGIA (18-13) vs. 5) Fresno St. (22-9)
3) DEPAUL (18-13) vs. 6) Hofstra (22-9)
2) KANSAS ST. (22-10) vs. 7) Vermont (25-6)

1. Air Force vs. 5. Fresno
6. Hofstra vs. 2. K-State

1. Air Force vs. 2. K-State

In the St. Louis Blues Region:
1) CLEMSON (21-10) vs. 8) East Tennessee St. (24-9)
4) OLE MISS (20-11) vs. 5) Appalachian St. (25-7)
3) MISSOURI ST. (22-10) vs. 6) San Diego St. (21-10)
2) SYRACUSE (22-10) vs. 7) South Alabama (20-11)

1. Clemson vs. Ole Miss
6. San Diego St. vs. Syracuse

1. Clemson vs. Syracuse

FINAL FOUR
Michigan vs. NC ST
Syracuse vs. K-State

SHIP
NC State vs. Kansas St.
61----------65

[GavMan33]

Illinois, I think we can all agree, had to be one of the Last Four In. So let's take a look at their nonconference:

They played Austin Peay (who I believe is an NIT team?), they played Jackson St. (an NCAA team), they played Florida A&M (an NCAA team), and they played Miami (OH) (also an NCAA team). You want big boys? Well first, they went to Bradley. Then they played Maryland and then went to Arizona. Lastly, they went to Missouri, and then played Xavier in Cincinnati. I'd say that's a pretty solid nonconference schedule, especially for a BCS Conference team. So I counted 6 NCAA team in the nonconference.

Syracuse. They played Penn (an NCAA team out of the Ivy League), and Holy Cross (winners of the Patriot League). Wichita St. and Oklahoma St. did not pan out (both losses). I also discount the argument for the game vs. Drexel, because I would say Drexel is in line for an at-large before the Orange. Also played teams like Colgate, Baylor, Hofstra, and St. Bonaventure. Two NCAA teams in the nonconference.

That said, I was sure the win vs. Georgetown a few weeks back punched their ticket to the dance. Wins @ Marquette and vs. Villanova were big early in the Big East schedule. I'm not sure, but I think those three wins account for all of their Top 50 wins. They won five in a row late, culminating in the win over the Hoyas, but the other four were St. John's, South Florida, UConn, and Providence. I would say the unbalanced schedule has a lot to do with the 10-6 Big East record. Throw in a loss @ St. John's and a loss @ UConn, and I can see the omission or the Orange....

[GavMan33]

I get that. I think Syracuse rarely leaving New York for a non-conference game is their biggest fault. Even with that though, I thinkthey were the second biggest snub this year.

Who was the biggest snub this year?

[willthethrill]

1) Miss. St. def. 8) Mississippi Valley St.
5) Providence def. 4) Bradley
3) Michigan def. 6) Utah St.
2) Florida St. def. 7) Toledo

5) Providence def. 1) Mississippi St.
3) Michigan def. 2) Florida St.

5) Providence def. 3) Michigan



1) West Virginia def. 8) Delaware St.
4) UMass def. 5) Alabama
3) Drexel def. 6) NC St.
2) Oklahoma St. def. 7) Marist

4) UMass def. 1) West Virginia
2) Oklahoma St. def. 3) Drexel

2) Oklahoma St. def. 4) UMass



1) Air Force def. 8) Austin Peay
4) Georgia def. 5) Fresno St.
6) Hofstra def. 3) Depaul
2) Kansas St. def. 7) Vermont

1) Air Force def. 5) Fresno St.
2) Kansas St. def. 6) Hofstra

2) Kansas St. def. 1) Air Force



1) Clemson def. 8) East Tennessee St.
5) Appalachian St. def. 4) Ole Miss
3) Missouri St. def. 6) San Diego St.
2) Syracuse def. 7) South Alabama

5) Appalachian St. def. 1) Clemson
2) Syracuse def. 3) Missouri St.

2) Syracuse def. 5) Appalachian St.



5) Providence def. 2) Oklahoma St.
2) Syracuse def. 2) Kansas St.

BIG EAST SHOWDOWN
2) Syracuse def. 5) Providence
70-61

[gbs3769]

Buffalo Bills Region:
1. Mississippi St. defeats 8. MVS
5. Providence defeats 4. Bradley
6. Utah St. defeats 3. Michigan
2. Florida St. defeats 7. Toledo

5. Providence defeats 1. Mississippi St.
2. Florida St. defeats 6. Utah St.

2. Florida St. defeats 5. Providence

Chicago Cubs Region:
1. West Virginia defeats 8. Delaware St.
4. UMass defeats 5. Alabama
3. Drexel defeats 6. NC State
7. Marist defeats 2. Oklahoma St.

1. West Virginia defeats 4. UMass
3. Drexel defeats 7. Marist

1. West Virginia defeats 3. Drexel

Golden State Warriors Region:
1. Air Force defeats 8. Austin Peay
5. Fresno St. defeats 4. Georgia
3. DePaul defeats 6. Hofstra
2. Kansas St. defeats 7. Vermont

1. Air Force defeats 5. Fresno St.
3. DePaul defeats 2. Kansas St.

3. Depaul defeats 1. Air Force

St. Louis Blues Region:
1. Clemson defeats 8. East Tennessee St.
4. Ole Miss defeats 5. Appalachian St.
3. Missouri St. defeats 6. San Diego St.
2. Syracuse defeats 7. South Alabama

4. Ole Miss defeats 1. Clemson
3. Missouri St. defeats 2. Syracuse

3. Missouri St. defeats 4. Ole Miss

The Final 4:
1. West Virginia defeats 2. Florida St.
3. Missouri St. defeats 3. Depaul

1. West Virginia defeats 3. Missouri St.

- Primo

[gbs3769]

But neither are tournament teams when it all comes down to it. You've got to get out and play some quality teams out of New York.
At the time they were quality teams. That is what I am trying to say.

- Primo

[gbs3769]

Who was the biggest snub this year?
I would say that Drexel is a bigger snub than Syracuse but neither of them should be left out.

- Primo

[UNLTrpt]

participants!

woot!

[gbs3769]

participants!

woot!
You are welcome. I still don't like it.

- Primo

[UNC41]

Who was the biggest snub this year?

Drexel.

At the time they were quality teams. That is what I am trying to say.

- Primo

Yeah, I see what you are saying. I think not going out of state is a much better problem than the teams they played.

[UNLTrpt]

You are welcome. I still don't like it.

- Primo

quit your whining. You could be a Nebraska basketball fan.

[gbs3769]

quit your whining. You could be a Nebraska basketball fan.
That would be foolish. Why do you think Creighton has such good support?

- Primo

[HolyCow]

Who was the biggest snub this year?
Kansas State.

[UNLTrpt]

That would be foolish. Why do you think Creighton has such good support?

- Primo


:lol

piss on Creighton.

[clayj41]

Who was the biggest snub this year?

Drexel...

[UNLTrpt]

Drexel...

I'll second that.

[UNC41]

Kansas State.

No way. They had a nice conference record, but just beat up on the bottomfeeders of the Big 12. KSU was just 2-5 against the RPI Top 50 and had an absolutely horrid strength of schedule.

[clayj41]

Drexel...

Actually you'll third it...I believe Bryan had them as well.

[unccrombie]

At the time they were quality teams. That is what I am trying to say.

- Primo
agreed, both ranked if i remember

[clayj41]

agreed, both ranked if i remember

:thumbsup That's when OK St. was 15-1 I believe...

[mizzoudmbfan]

Kansas State.

I don't think the 88th ranked SOS cuts it. The Bill Snyder school of scheduling does not translate to the hardwood.

[chiznaz]

Finishing up my bracket right now.

-The Kansas-UCLA pick is a tough one (game is in San Jose).
-I think Wash St. could upset Georgetown

Tough first round picks for me: Marquette/Mich St, Notre Dame/Winthrop, Texas Tech/BC, USC/Ark, Maryland/Davidson, Georgia Tech/UNLV.

[chiznaz]

One more thing. Yall have a 13 knocking off a 4 anywhere?

[clayj41]

One more thing. Yall have a 13 knocking off a 4 anywhere?

I'm tempted to pick Albany over Virginia....but no, I don't have a 13 beating a 4.

[cwsrule88]

alright one of the few first round games im having trouble picking is the kentucky vs villanova game. im aware that randolph morris is doing really well, but then i also know that villanova has a really good freshman guard and a good forward who was hurt all of last year when they made the run in the tourney last year. so which team have you guys choices kentucky or villanova?

[dmbinchicago]

alright one of the few first round games im having trouble picking is the kentucky vs villanova game. im aware that randolph morris is doing really well, but then i also know that villanova has a really good freshman guard and a good forward who was hurt all of last year when they made the run in the tourney last year. so which team have you guys choices kentucky or villanova?
Very tight game. I like Nova- best free throw shooting team in the country. Always good in close games.

[clayj41]

alright one of the few first round games im having trouble picking is the kentucky vs villanova game. im aware that randolph morris is doing really well, but then i also know that villanova has a really good freshman guard and a good forward who was hurt all of last year when they made the run in the tourney last year. so which team have you guys choices kentucky or villanova?

I've got Nova as well...

[unccrombie]

anyone else have the aggies in the final 4?

[clayj41]

anyone else have the aggies in the final 4?

I wanna put them in there but I'm skeptical because of the way they played down the stretch. I think the Ohio St. game will be a tough matchup for them...assuming the two play each other.

[chiznaz]

I wanna put them in there but I'm skeptical because of the way they played down the stretch. I think the Ohio St. game will be a tough matchup for them...assuming the two play each other.

the games in San Antonio (if they played). It will be good advantage for A&M playing in the Alamodome.

[unccrombie]

I wanna put them in there but I'm skeptical because of the way they played down the stretch. I think the Ohio St. game will be a tough matchup for them...assuming the two play each other.
i know, but i cant keep puttin #1s in my final 4 :lol

[willthethrill]

i know, but i cant keep puttin #1s in my final 4 :lol
I've got'em in with UNC, Florida and KU. :BANG

Yea, 3 #1s, but this is one of the most top-heavy years that I can ever remember. There's only about 8-11 teams that have any shot at winning it.