Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[clayj41]

So wait, I'm a bit confused seeing Donovan's pre-game speech...am I tuned in to watch a basketball game or a horse race?

[SoRight24]

So wait, I'm a bit confused seeing Donovan's pre-game speech...am I tuned in to watch a basketball game or a horse race?

Horse Race......KENTUCKY Derby.

He's gone. ;)

[clayj41]

Wow, Humphries trying to guard Conley there was one of the funniest things I've ever seen!:lol

[SoRight24]

The Gators are dominating.

The up side, only one more half of Joakim Noah.

[clayj41]

The Gators are dominating.

The up side, only one more half of Joakim Noah.

:thumbsup Florida is just the better team...

[SoRight24]

Btw, a little tidbit I got from Inside Carolina premium.

Brandan is gone, Tywon has stopped attending classes as well (not a good sign!), Tyler will be back.

[clayj41]

Btw, a little tidbit I got from Inside Carolina premium.

Brandan is gone, Tywon has stopped attending classes as well (not a good sign!), Tyler will be back.

Well, I really like one of those things. The other two...not so much!:(

[SoRight24]

Well, I really like one of those things. The other two...not so much!:(

Agreed, I had pretty much accepted the fact that Brandan was going to leave.

But I am really hoping Ty comes back! If he leaves, Frasor will have to run the point, cause we all know Roy isn't going to play Thomas (who I think is better than Frasor).

We will still be solid, but I don't think we can win a National Championship with Frasor running the show.

[SoRight24]

OSU making a run here.

Noah with his 3rd foul.

[SoRight24]

Florida Gators, repeat National Champions.

Even though I don't favor them, thats pretty damn impressive.

:thumbsup

[willthethrill]

Uh, well, whatever, congrats to Florida I guess. At least I don't have to see Joke-im Noah anymore.

[Trippin4136]

3 pointers decided the game. That's it. We get close, Florida would pick up a lose ball and drill a 3.

Ohio State had full control of the paint but Horford still got his. Oden did everything he could and more. Conley played great, and Lewis contributed well. I think Butler's regression really came to fruition in the tournament. There's nothing to say. They played their hearts out and lost because they couldn't drain a 3 or main a key stop when they needed to.

I expect Oden will leave, I will be really surprised if Conley leaves despite an excellent tournament. The Buckeyes will still have a great team for the next few years. Hopefully Oden returns for 2007-2008.

Thank God Joakim Noah can go fade into the NBA.

Buckeye Pride always.

[ZjR326]

Good God, how about we stop shooting three's. You can't make them. Stop, drive, get fouled, MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS! I love my Bucks, but come one now. This wasn't just a bball game, this was revenge for the anal raping earlier this year...

I hope Oden comes back, build around him.

I still hate FL, but give them credit. Coach is a good guy too... basically I just strongly dislike Noah. Cunt.

[Trippin4136]

I'm just happy Florida was getting called for their cheap shit under the basket. Their bitching was laughable. The refs finally called them on their arm hooks and push offs.

Agreed, I can't believe how cold they were considering how hot they could get during the season.

BTW, anyone who ever doubted Oden, how can you after this game? (not saying anyone particular in this thread, just in general)

[ZjR326]

I'm just happy Florida was getting called for their cheap shit under the basket. Their bitching was laughable. The refs finally called them on their arm hooks and push offs.

Agreed, I can't believe how cold they were considering how hot they could get during the season.

BTW, anyone who ever doubted Oden, how can you after this game? (not saying anyone particular in this thread, just in general)


:thumbsup Oden was money tonight. Amazing game, great control... especially since he's 18!!!

I just couldn't believe they kept shooting, the last stat I saw was 2 for 18. They were wide open, yes, but nothing was going down- I just didn't understand it. But then again who am I to judge, I could probably only hit 2-10 also :shrug

Good season for OSU again, just falling a little short again. Next year... just like my CUBBIES!! :monkey

[seekupig]

Congrats to the Gators. i don't like them, never will, and was pulling for them to lose. but, they earned it. it's hard to win six games in a row in the tourney, even harder when you're the defending champs and everyone's gunning for you. good job.

now, you can lose a few players to the NBA, lose your coach to Kentucky and get back to being the UF we ALL love..... ;)

[emu513]

Btw, a little tidbit I got from Inside Carolina premium.

Brandan is gone, Tywon has stopped attending classes as well (not a good sign!), Tyler will be back.

Really bad decision.

Anyway, Ohio State needed to catch Florida on somewhat of an off night tonigth and they didn't get it. Florida did not miss tonight. They really showed that when they play their best, they're damn good.

Ohio State was still a very formidable opponent and had a few more threes dropped (perhaps at a percentage comparable to regular season) things would have been really interesting.

Greg Oden = Wow. Great game for him. Swan song, I'm afraid though.

[clayj41]

Although I hate Florida, I give them all the respect in the world for being such a great team. I don't have any respect for Joakim Noah though, his post-game interview was a disgrace.

[SteelerMan]

There's no way Oden is coming back after last night. Is he really ready for the NBA? Not quite, but I'm not sure one more year would really benefit him enough to make it worth the risk of getting seriously injured. I unfairly disliked him during the season because of all the hype, but he's won me over. I think what really impresses me is his demeanor. He reminds me of Tim Duncan.

[GavMan33]

Florida Gators, champs again. I had a pretty good feeling they would once the Final Four was set. Like the rest of you, I really don't like them much at all. And for some very odd reason, I found myself on the Ohio State bandwagon after our loss to them.

I think the Buckeyes straight up got tired late; very similar to how Xavier looked against them in the last 5 minutes of regulation in that game. Oden would come up with a huge block that they desparately needed. The ball would be loose, a Gator would beat an OSU player to the ball, kick it out, 3-ball. They just came up with big shots when they needed them.

Oden played tremendously, like the player he's been said to be all year long. Still not convinced on the guy RIGHT NOW. Sure, he's going to be a great player, no doubt. But right now? I thought Xavier shut him down very well, and he got very frustrated, as you could see throughout that game. He was in foul trouble for much of the Tennessee game. Same for the Georgetown game (although he had a monster 2nd half). I really think he needs to come back to school.

Meanwhile, I am very high on Conley. Granted, I am in love with any good point guard, but this kid is great. Man, he's so good. What else can I say?

[SteelerMan]

But I am really hoping Ty comes back! If he leaves, Frasor will have to run the point, cause we all know Roy isn't going to play Thomas (who I think is better than Frasor).

We will still be solid, but I don't think we can win a National Championship with Frasor running the show.

:thumbsup

I agree with all of this. If Lawson and Wright both leave (and with Terry gradating), I think we'd be a little thin next year. I think Lawson is our most irreplaceable player. We have other big guys in Thompson and Stephenson that can play the post, but we definitely don't have a point guard even close to the caliber of Lawson on the bench.

[GavMan33]

Creighton's Dana Altman to take the Arkansas job.

Really too bad for Creighton (you all know me, I love the mid-major). Altman has put in a lot of years at Creighton to build that program to what it is now. I hope they are able to bring someone in to continue the success.

[UNC41]

Congrats to Florida. I can't stand them, but congrats. Some NBA team is going to be dumb enough to draft Noah ahead of Brewer this summer and it boggles my mind.

[UNC41]

Btw, a little tidbit I got from Inside Carolina premium.

Brandan is gone, Tywon has stopped attending classes as well (not a good sign!), Tyler will be back.

I read yesterday that Brandan is still in classes and read the same thing about Tywon last week after the loss.

:thumbsup

I agree with all of this. If Lawson and Wright both leave (and with Terry gradating), I think we'd be a little thin next year. I think Lawson is our most irreplaceable player. We have other big guys in Thompson and Stephenson that can play the post, but we definitely don't have a point guard even close to the caliber of Lawson on the bench.

Without Lawson I don't think UNC is a national championship caliber team, but I don't think they'd be too thin by any means.

PG - Frasor/Thomas
SG - Ellington/Ginyard
SF - Green/Graves
PF - Thompson/Stepheson
C - Hansbrough/Copeland

[UNLTrpt]

Really too bad for Creighton (you all know me, I love the mid-major). Altman has put in a lot of years at Creighton to build that program to what it is now. I hope they are able to bring someone in to continue the success.

I hope they win 5 games a year from now on

[seekupig]

anyone heard anything about Julian Wright or Brandon Rush leaving? i've heard nothing.... not sure if that's good or bad.:shrug

[UNC41]

anyone heard anything about Julian Wright or Brandon Rush leaving? i've heard nothing.... not sure if that's good or bad.:shrug

I've read Wright is pretty much a lock to come back. In fact, I think Arthur is more of a threat to put his name in the draft. Many seem to think Rush will declare.

[seekupig]

I've read Wright is pretty much a lock to come back. In fact, I think Arthur is more of a threat to put his name in the draft. Many seem to think Rush will declare.

funny, i think Wright is the most NBA ready of the three you listed....

though i know Arthur would have gone straight to the league if he were able to, so that's to be expected.

Rush is a passive Paul Pierce in my opinion. and passive doesn't work at his position in the NBA.

[darbini]

Woo-hoo! Go fucking Gators!!!! It really has to suck being Ohio State and lose national championships' in basketball and football to the same college. It's great to be a Florida Gator!! Congrats to tOSU, they had a great year eventhough they came up short.

[UNC41]

funny, i think Wright is the most NBA ready of the three you listed....

though i know Arthur would have gone straight to the league if he were able to, so that's to be expected.

Rush is a passive Paul Pierce in my opinion. and passive doesn't work at his position in the NBA.

Here's a link I read yesterday to what many players may be thinking. I agree completely about Wright being the most ready. Rush's midrange game is so sweet that he'll find a place in the NBA whenever he leaves.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1956

[DreamingTree#40]

Congrats to Florida. I can't stand them, but congrats. Some NBA team is going to be dumb enough to draft Noah ahead of Brewer this summer and it boggles my mind.

:thumbsupI think Brewer and Horford are better than Noah. He plays solid defense, but I can't see him being anything more than a role player in the NBA. I can't stand Noah either, he just doesn't have the offensive skill to match that ego he is going to bring to the league.

[SmoothD41]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2007/2007/04/goodbye-to-gators-and-top-10-for-2007.html

[UNC41]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2007/2007/04/goodbye-to-gators-and-top-10-for-2007.html

The Florida fans bitching in the comments section are hillarious.

[willthethrill]

I could see them having a year like UNC in '06 if Donovan sticks around. Good, young team that will surprise a few teams after losing loads of talent.

MAN I hope Ty stays.

[UNC41]

MAN I hope Ty stays.

Both nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com took Ty off their mock drafts as of today. He was on both yesterday. I know nothing's set in stone, but it was nice to see that.

[UNLTrpt]

Altman BACK to Creighton.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2824653

wow.

[GavMan33]

Altman BACK to Creighton.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2824653

wow.

:thumbsup OK Altman, way to turn down the bigtime job for your established mid-major job. I like it, way to go....:thumbsup

[UNLTrpt]

he got cold feet. simple as that

[justinandimcool]

I'm a little late but I was away this weekend...but I have to give MAJOR MAJOR props to Florida. I've hated them all year and now I can see why- they are virtually a perfect basketball team and it's truly a shame to see them go next year (assuming they do). Horford played solid with some great plays, and Brewer was fantasic, obviously. But to have as many weapons from outside coming through like they did, as well as some solid guys to penetrate/go one on one, I don't see how they could've lost that game.

Oden impressed alot of scouts I'm sure, and I gained sort of a new respect for him. Should've played like that all year though. I really hope he returns since he will be healthy the whole season, only if he shows some fire and hunger, which he lacked for much of the year. If not, then good luck to him in the pros.

[darbini]

I don't see why they wouldn't be in the top 10, they have alot more weapons on that bench than people think. This team had no identity and became back to back national champions, now it's time for the next group. Remember how last year Florida wasn't even ranked to start off the season, and they won it all. They played Donovans offense, they executed, and they set an example for many teammates to follow. The media builds up Noah too much, and I think he gets too bad of a rap for it. He is the #4 scorer on the team, behind Horford, Brewer, and Green. I think all 5 starters and Chris Richard will be on an NBA team next year. Also, I really don't see how anyone would pass on having Three Humphrey on their team, he can hit it from anywhere, just needs some work on defense. Next year's team can gel and make the Sweet 16 for sure, but we'll see about taking the next step.

Out of the 40 games UF played this year, I watched 34 of them, so trust me when I say that they have some Horfords and Brewers waiting for their chance.

[dreamingtreeIU]

i don't usually like to sound biased, but i think Indiana's team next year is fucking real stacked............ for the national championship, we're looking at UNC, UCLA, and Kansas in the mix

[darbini]

Ok...? They have talent, they have swagger, they are unselfish, they will perform well, they will lose 5 games this year.

I hate being right, this was on 10-26:D They went 35-5


one of them will be on November 25th and another will come in the NCAA tournament.

the attitude that Florida is the only team in the country that has talent, swagger, is unselfish and will perform well is exactly what will keep them from winning it all this year.

And you get a threesome! :monkey :ggoat :hump

[TempHelpNeeded]

THE NEVERENDING STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:Pimp

[seekupig]

I hate being right, this was on 10-26:D They went 35-5

And you get a threesome! :monkey :ggoat :hump

:lol

at least i got the KU game right..... :lol :lol

congrats on the good season, they deserve it as much as i hate to admit it. i was really hopinng to see KU and UF rematch in the final four, but going on the road and playing at UCLA was a bit much to ask. if KU can keep Wright and Rush from jumping to the league, they'll be top 3 (possibly #1) to start next year depending on what other teams lose or don't lose to the draft. sooner or later, they have to win one...... i hope.

[SoRight24]

:lol

at least i got the KU game right..... :lol :lol

congrats on the good season, they deserve it as much as i hate to admit it. i was really hopinng to see KU and UF rematch in the final four, but going on the road and playing at UCLA was a bit much to ask. if KU can keep Wright and Rush from jumping to the league, they'll be top 3 (possibly #1) to start next year depending on what other teams lose or don't lose to the draft. sooner or later, they have to win one...... i hope.

Good luck with that one.....

[seekupig]

Good luck with that one.....

Wright is pretty much a lock to come back. he's already said numerous times that he plans to return next year (that can change, i know...). Rush is on the fence, but i don't think he'll be a lottery pick and that may keep him for one more year. here's something from the Kansas City Star....

Three Jayhawks — Brandon Rush, Julian Wright and Darrell Arthur — are most often discussed as underclassmen who could move on. Rush, the scoring leader, is the most likely choice, but it’s not close to being a done deal. Coach Bill Self believes everybody else will return.

[UNC41]

I don't see why they wouldn't be in the top 10, they have alot more weapons on that bench than people think. This team had no identity and became back to back national champions, now it's time for the next group. Remember how last year Florida wasn't even ranked to start off the season, and they won it all. They played Donovans offense, they executed, and they set an example for many teammates to follow. The media builds up Noah too much, and I think he gets too bad of a rap for it. He is the #4 scorer on the team, behind Horford, Brewer, and Green. I think all 5 starters and Chris Richard will be on an NBA team next year. Also, I really don't see how anyone would pass on having Three Humphrey on their team, he can hit it from anywhere, just needs some work on defense. Next year's team can gel and make the Sweet 16 for sure, but we'll see about taking the next step.

Out of the 40 games UF played this year, I watched 34 of them, so trust me when I say that they have some Horfords and Brewers waiting for their chance.

The article assumed Horford, Brewer, Noah and Green leave early. If that's the case Florida loses more than 80% of their scoring and rebounding. There's no way the Gators deserve to be a top 10 team if that's the case. It took everything falling into place just perfectly for UNC to become one in a similar situation last year, and that was in a down year in college basketball. Noel stepped it up big time and became an NBA player. Terry developed his game into a guy who will be drafted. A freshman, Hansbrough, came in and became a second team All-America. Then you've got to have four or five guys (Frasor, Green, Ginyard, Miller, Thomas) step up and become absoluetly solid role players.

I also don't think six Gators from this year's team will find their way into the NBA. Humphrey is easily the least likely. I don't see that happening. Green and Richards are possibilities, but not even close to locks.

[seekupig]

The article assumed Horford, Brewer, Noah and Green leave early. If that's the case Florida loses more than 80% of their scoring and rebounding. There's no way the Gators deserve to be a top 10 team if that's the case. It took everything falling into place just perfectly for UNC to become one in a similar situation last year, and that was in a down year in college basketball. Noel stepped it up big time and became an NBA player. Terry developed his game into a guy who will be drafted. A freshman, Hansbrough, came in and became a second team All-America. Then you've got to have four or five guys (Frasor, Green, Ginyard, Miller, Thomas) step up and become absoluetly solid role players.

I also don't think six Gators from this year's team will find their way into the NBA. Humphrey is easily the least likely. I don't see that happening. Green and Richards are possibilities, but not even close to locks.

Kansas as well.

[UNC41]

Kansas as well.

Yeah. I went with the UNC comparison both because I follow them and the mass exodus Florida could be facing would come after a title.

[seekupig]

Yeah. I went with the UNC comparison both because I follow them and the mass exodus Florida could be facing would come after a title.

the mass exodus of KU players after choking to Bucknell has to count for something.... :lol :lol

granted they were all seniors (besides JR Giddens who transferred)

[darbini]

The Gators' Walter Hodge made 34/68 three pointers this year, and he will be Green's replacement. That's pretty damn good.

[UNC41]

The Gators' Walter Hodge made 34/68 three pointers this year, and he will be Green's replacement. That's pretty damn good.

That's why Florida should be a top 10 team without the 04s?

[UNLTrpt]

Reasons why Dana Altman did not stay at Arkansas:

8. His children (one boy and one girl) would have had to become engaged.

7. Nike has announced that they are canceling their sponsorship of Arkansas basketball when they learned that the players have been cutting the soles out of the shoes so that they can play barefooted and only wear the tops.

6. He would have had to hire an assistant coach who was a parole officer

5. The Arkansas offer was in Confederate dollars

4. The Pope told him he couldn’t go

3. He would have had to pull ½ of his teeth to stay there

2. Arkansas would not allow any new DNA into the state

And the #1 reason why Dana Altman did not stay at Arkansas:....*drumroll*

1. He saw the film of himself doing the hog call and realized how dumb it looked

[darbini]

That's why Florida should be a top 10 team without the 04s?

No, I was just saying that it was pretty damn good.

[willthethrill]

Also, I really don't see how anyone would pass on having Three Humphrey on their team, he can hit it from anywhere, just needs some work on defense.

SEE: JJ Redick.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=4139

[siserilla]

http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/greg_oden_on_final_four

:lol :lol :lol

[UNC41]

SEE: JJ Redick.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=4139

I think even the Redick and Humprhey comparison is off. Redick is more athletic, can create his shot better off the dribble, is a better defender and has two inches in Lee. You don't see many 6'2" shooting guards in the NBA these days, especially ones who the only tool they can pretty much offer is set shooting.

[SteelerMan]

I could see Humphrey being a solid role player coming off the bench in the NBA. Maybe play the same kind of role Matt Bullard played for the Rockets a few years ago.

[darbini]

Donovan Staying At Florida Woo Hoo!!!! Was Just On Espn!!!!

[UNLTrpt]

Donovan Staying At Florida Woo Hoo!!!! Was Just On Espn!!!!

yep. here it is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2826756

[seekupig]

Andy Katz seems to believe that the entire KU roster will return next season.... i hope he's right.

[justinandimcool]

Andy Katz seems to believe that the entire KU roster will return next season.... i hope he's right.


Nice :thumbsup

You know if Self has any big time recruits coming in? I'm excited to see this team next season.

[seekupig]

Nice :thumbsup

You know if Self has any big time recruits coming in? I'm excited to see this team next season.

they've only got one coming in. with no seniors on the entire roster, they only had one scholarship available. he's a 6'11" beast from what i understand though....

[justinandimcool]

they've only got one coming in. with no seniors on the entire roster, they only had one scholarship available. he's a 6'11" beast from what i understand though....

Wow. Hopefully a starter right away. If Durant stays hopefully we'll have ourselves a good ole slobberknocker down low, assuming he's the beast you say he is :)

[willthethrill]

I think even the Redick and Humprhey comparison is off. Redick is more athletic, can create his shot better off the dribble, is a better defender and has two inches in Lee. You don't see many 6'2" shooting guards in the NBA these days, especially ones who the only tool they can pretty much offer is set shooting.

That was my point. Redick is unquestionably better, for all the reasons you added, and look at how he's doing. Humphrey is a shooter, a more consistent, less defensive-minded Wes Miller.

[SmoothD41]

Huggins to WVU

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6648384

will be interesting to see what Beasley does, I assume he'll follow.

[seekupig]

Huggins to WVU

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6648384

will be interesting to see what Beasley does, I assume he'll follow.

looks like KU's 25 year winning streak at K State is safe for awhile.... :lol :lol

now we just have to see how Huggy can work all black uniforms into WVU's navy and gold.

[UNLTrpt]

looks like KU's 25 year winning streak at K State is safe for awhile.... :lol :lol

now we just have to see how Huggy can work all black uniforms into WVU's navy and gold.

:lol

blow up in the little apple in 3...2...1...

this doesn't make me upset at all.

[willthethrill]

Huggins ditches out after a season. I'm sure KState ain't happy, pretty Hugginsesque move by the namesake.

[capoetc]

The Gators will be rebuilding, but they will be doing it with some incredible talent. They will likely still be in the mix for the SEC championship and an early-round exit from the NCAA Tournament.

So sayeth I, an alum of the UF Class of '87. :-)

[UNLTrpt]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2827764

Billy Gillispie to Kentucky.

[UNC41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2827764

Billy Gillispie to Kentucky.

Great hire. Gillispie has had success everywhere he's gone. Kentucky should be no different.

[chiznaz]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2827764

Billy Gillispie to Kentucky.

fuc# the world

[UNC41]

Good news for Tar Heel fans.

Ty Lawson will be staying at North Carolina for his sophomore season, tells us a source very close to the situation. The source told us that Lawson did not go to Chapel Hill just to be one and done, and that if solely “making” the NBA was his goal, he would have gone somewhere that would have given him a better opportunity to pad his stats and “be the man.” Lawson reportedly wants to leave North Carolina with a legacy behind him, and declaring for the draft after losing the way he did in the Elite Eight is not what he had planned.

http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1985

[justinandimcool]

Woo hoo! :multi

Love Lawson.

[justinandimcool]

Oh and if you guys wanna see all the "One Shining Moments" of the past just click on the blog link on my myspace. I provided links to youtube for all of them. http://www.myspace.com/bobbleheadjesus

Spent last night watching that stuff. So beautiful :lorraine

[UNC41]

It looks like Kansas won't keep it's roster intact after all and will lose Wright.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/apr/08/wright_likely_declare_nba_draft/?sports

[seekupig]

It looks like Kansas won't keep it's roster intact after all and will lose Wright.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/apr/08/wright_likely_declare_nba_draft/?sports


:BANG :lorraine :lorraine

[UNC41]

:BANG :lorraine :lorraine

I read he was going to meet with Self last Friday, but held back from posting because I didn't want you to spend Easter weekend worrying.

[seekupig]

I read he was going to meet with Self last Friday, but held back from posting because I didn't want you to spend Easter weekend worrying.

i've thought all along that he was the most NBA ready, but was hoping that he was one of those guys that liked being in school and wouldn't listen to the leeches that whisper about your draft status and not being able to help yourself by coming back.....

i guess the only thing i can hope for now is that he doesn't sign an agent and performs poorly in workouts..... and that Brandon Rush decides to stay.

they'll be good reguardless, but they would have been odds on favorites going into next season had they kept everyone.

[seekupig]

with the departure of Huggins, it looks as if #3 ranked player in the nation, Michael Beasly may change schools.

"I'm really thinking about Memphis right now. NC State and Florida State, too," he said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2829319

[UNC41]

with the departure of Huggins, it looks as if #3 ranked player in the nation, Michael Beasly may change schools.

"I'm really thinking about Memphis right now. NC State and Florida State, too," he said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2829319

Memphis would be tough as hell next year with both Rose and Beasley.

[chiznaz]

Mark Turgeon from Wichita State will be A&Ms new head basketball coach.

Saw his plane flying in while I was heading to class. He's meeting with Bill Byrne probably right now.
A&M is also fencing off the area right now for the new $22+million basketball facility which will begin construction this week or next. Talk about timing.

[UNLTrpt]

jesus christ. A&M just has a boatload of money. I've always said (dollar) bill byrne was an amazing hire for aTm. he brought Nebraska into the forefront of revenue and spending. Exactly what aTm needed.

[chiznaz]

jesus christ. A&M just has a boatload of money. I've always said (dollar) bill byrne was an amazing hire for aTm. he brought Nebraska into the forefront of revenue and spending. Exactly what aTm needed.

Our donors bring it hard. And with F'ingBCG bringing basketball up to speed, basketball is generating good revenue now as well. I think Turgeon can keep the momentum rolling.

[justinandimcool]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! !

Durant is gone. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2831655

Afflalo is gone. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2832655

[UNLTrpt]

Our donors bring it hard. And with F'ingBCG bringing basketball up to speed, basketball is generating good revenue now as well. I think Turgeon can keep the momentum rolling.

the impression that I got before Byrne got there is that aTm wasn't bringing in the dollars that it could. And that was one of the the reasons dollar bill was recruited to go there. He had a good resume raising money here in a notoriously unwealthy state. Everybody in Nebraska knew he would kick ass down there.

[willthethrill]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! !

Durant is gone. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2831655

Afflalo is gone. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2832655
Wait, why are you upset. UCLA gets weaker...

In other news, Ty and Tyler staying, but Brandan doesn't make an announcement. Later BW.

[justinandimcool]

Wait, why are you upset. UCLA gets weaker...

In other news, Ty and Tyler staying, but Brandan doesn't make an announcement. Later BW.

Hah. My hatred for UCLA doesn't overshadow the class and dignity he and many others brought to the NCAA. :) Always sad to see guys like that go, to be demoted a inferior philosopohy of basketball that is the NBA.

[DreamingTree#40]

Wait, why are you upset. UCLA gets weaker...

In other news, Ty and Tyler staying, but Brandan doesn't make an announcement. Later BW.

I am happy that Ty is going to be back next year, but sadly it sounds like Brandon is gone. Either way UNC is looking really good next year

[UNC41]

Hah. My hatred for UCLA doesn't overshadow the class and dignity he and many others brought to the NCAA. :) Always sad to see guys like that go, to be demoted a inferior philosopohy of basketball that is the NBA.

I love it when dookies go to the NBA.

[UNC41]

I figured UND would lose Wright, but there may still be a slim outside chance of keeping him. Heel fans won't know the answer until next week.

[SteelerMan]

There's no way Brandan Wright is coming back. I just feel fortunate that Lawson decided to stay. I expected Hansbrough to.

[UNC41]

There's no way Brandan Wright is coming back. I just feel fortunate that Lawson decided to stay. I expected Hansbrough to.

Lawson should be just nasty next year and I expect Ellington to make a big jump in his level of play. I'm already excited, with or without Brandan, and it's not even (Sean) May yet.

[UNC41]

This quote is exactly why love Roy. He's not afraid to put a player's best interests ahead of the program.

"I did tell him the day he had to make the decision by, April 29, I gave him the information, I've given him where I think he'd be drafted and the salary scale of what he could possibly make. He asked me my opinion and I gave him my opinion. But I told him what I wanted to do was choose what he wanted to do and I'd support it. He told me his mom said exactly the same thing. ... He's very relaxed about it, he's not going to be pushed, when the decision is made it'll be made by Brandan - with very slight input"

[UNC41]

Apparentely Conley is gone and could announce it tonight. His dad has said he expects Mike to at least test the waters.

[willthethrill]

This quote is exactly why love Roy. He's not afraid to put a player's best interests ahead of the program.

"I did tell him the day he had to make the decision by, April 29, I gave him the information, I've given him where I think he'd be drafted and the salary scale of what he could possibly make. He asked me my opinion and I gave him my opinion. But I told him what I wanted to do was choose what he wanted to do and I'd support it. He told me his mom said exactly the same thing. ... He's very relaxed about it, he's not going to be pushed, when the decision is made it'll be made by Brandan - with very slight input"

Yea, I've always loved Roy's willingness to prepare his boys for a career, unlike a certain black-hair-dyed demon.

[unccrombie]

Yea, I've always loved Roy's willingness to prepare his boys for a career, unlike a certain black-hair-dyed demon.
wolf, the dentist, stanson?

[justinandimcool]

Damn :(

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2836799

Well at least this year's draft class will be sick :rolleyes

[justinandimcool]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2837151

Oden gone as well (surprise surprise).

[justinandimcool]

LA Daily News reports Nick Young is leaving USC for the draft as well. :lorraine

[willthethrill]

Damn what a fallout. NC contenders are dropping like flies.

[UNC41]

USC loses Nick Young, but they get Lil Romeo.

www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6935

[kydmb99]

All I know is with these defections to the NBA, I think UNC is the team to beat.... I think Louisville will be up there too.

[UNC41]

All I know is with these defections to the NBA, I think UNC is the team to beat.... I think Louisville will be up there too.

Even if/when Wright leaves, I still like their chances.

[dmbmuskie]

I like Memphis next year.

[emu513]

Conley, Cook, and Oden gone. Not shocking.

Ohio State will still be very good next year. How good will depend on the PG play. Conley is the biggest loss to the team. Butler isn't half the player Conley is and Ohio State could be in trouble if he doesn't step up.

[UNLTrpt]

USC loses Nick Young, but they get Lil Romeo.

www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6935

fair trade off :rolleyes

[JamesM]

nova! nova!

[UNC41]

UNC vs. tOSU again in the ACC Beats up on the Big 10 Challenge, this time in Columbus.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/636093.html

[unccrombie]

i need me some preseason polls

[seekupig]

i need me some preseason polls

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2836005

[clayj41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2836005

IU's standing on the list should go up with DJ announcing that he's coming back...

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...0601/704160422

[UNC41]

i need me some preseason polls

I'll do an Ants one once the deadline to leave passes and Patterson and Lucas sign LOIs.

[unccrombie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2836005
clutch

[mizzoudmbfan]

Took them long enough.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2007-04-17-text-messaging_N.htm

Rumor on the Mizzou board is that kansas is at the top of Legion's list.

http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=24493

[seekupig]

Rumor on the Mizzou board is that kansas is at the top of Legion's list.

http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=24493

KU could definately use a 3 pt. gunner.....

their achilles heel has been not being able to shoot over zone defenses consistently, this would definately help.

[seekupig]

there was supposed to be a press conference today at 3 in Chapel Hill, haven't heard anything else about it though....

North Carolina freshman Brandan Wright (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=277) will be announcing his intentions to enter the NBA draft on Monday, multiple sources told DraftExpress Saturday evening.

Wright had been going back and forth on whether to declare or not for the past few weeks, but finally decided to put his name in the draft after meeting with Roy Williams this weekend and being urged by the North Carolina head coach himself to not pass up the opportunity of being a top 5 pick.

Wright’s next move will be to hire an agent.

[seekupig]

15 minutes after my last post, it's official. he's not signing an agent though...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2846811

[willthethrill]

Meh, he's gone. He just hasn't met with any agents yet. Good luck BWright, hello Deon Thompson. Can't wait for October 15.

[kydmb99]

Looks like Gillispie has gotten his first top 50 commitment at Kentucky.... and it's for NEXT YEAR. :eek (He also has a commitment from one of the top PG's in the 09 class).

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6731208

:bounce :bounce :bounce

[seekupig]

this is killing me..... Rush should decide today. this could make or break next season.... :BANG

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2849565

[seekupig]

:BANG :BANG :BANG

Rush is gone (not hiring an agent yet....)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2849565

all of a sudden, KU doesn't even look like a top ten team...... :(

[kydmb99]

:BANG :BANG :BANG

Rush is gone (not hiring an agent yet....)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2849565

all of a sudden, KU doesn't even look like a top ten team...... :(

All I know is Bill Self couldn't take this team to a Final 4, I have to wonder if he ever will. If it weren't for Florida I think this Kansas team could've been looked on as the best we've seen in years.

[seekupig]

All I know is Bill Self couldn't take this team to a Final 4, I have to wonder if he ever will. If it weren't for Florida I think this Kansas team could've been looked on as the best we've seen in years.

playing UCLA in California in the Elite Eight didn't help...... i really wanted to see KU and Florida play again.

also, KU has had much worse teams get to a final four, and much better teams not make it. it's all timing and matchups, it just wasn't meant to be this year.

[UNC41]

:BANG :BANG :BANG

Rush is gone (not hiring an agent yet....)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2849565

all of a sudden, KU doesn't even look like a top ten team...... :(

This is more than likely a recent conversation at the Rush household.

Brandon: "Guys, I thinking of declaring for the NBA draft, but am not sure if it's the right decision."

Kareem: "You might as well. I don't think there's any way you'll be as big of a first round bust as I was."

JaRon: "And I never even made it into an NBA game, so there's no way you fail worse than me."

Kareem: "Yeah, I felt like a huge success averaging 6.4 points per game before winding up out of the league."

Brandon: "So I could have a pitiful career and still more than likely wind up as the most successful member of the family? That's it, I'm in."

[willthethrill]

This is more than likely a recent conversation at the Rush household.

Brandon: "Guys, I thinking of declaring for the NBA draft, but am not sure if it's the right decision."

Kareem: "You might as well. I don't think there's any way you'll be as big of a first round bust as I was."

JaRon: "And I never even made it into an NBA game, so there's no way you fail worse than me."

Kareem: "Yeah, I felt like a huge success averaging 6.4 points per game before winding up out of the league."

Brandon: "So I could have a pitiful career and still more than likely wind up as the most successful member of the family? That's it, I'm in."
Love you.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Looks like Rickma is back in the game (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/slu/story/0F774D68A47BC1F7862572CA0076C67E?OpenDocument).

For those of you not familiar with St. Louis(I think that's pretty much everyone here). SLUs campus is a few blocks north of a neighborhood known as "The Hill", basically STLs Little Italy, some of if not the best food in the city. SLU is also a few blocks east of Barnes-Jewish Hospital, one of the nations foremost cardiology centers. Should be a good fit...

[UNLTrpt]

Looks like Rickma is back in the game (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/slu/story/0F774D68A47BC1F7862572CA0076C67E?OpenDocument).

For those of you not familiar with St. Louis(I think that's pretty much everyone here). SLUs campus is a few blocks north of a neighborhood known as "The Hill", basically STLs Little Italy, some of if not the best food in the city. SLU is also a few blocks east of Barnes-Jewish Hospital, one of the nations foremost cardiology centers. Should be a good fit...

:lol

Majerus was one of the names being thrown around for the Nebraska job before Doc got it. I would have liked him to come here but the awfulness of Nebraska basketball would have killed him last year.

[justinandimcool]

:BANG :BANG :BANG

Rush is gone (not hiring an agent yet....)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2849565

all of a sudden, KU doesn't even look like a top ten team...... :(

Damn. :BANG Sorry bud. :(

Is it me or is the number of big name college players jumping to the NBA higher than usual this year? I dunno, it just seems like it. :(

[seekupig]

Damn. :BANG Sorry bud. :(

Is it me or is the number of big name college players jumping to the NBA higher than usual this year? I dunno, it just seems like it. :(

seems that way. probably because half of the ones that are jumping wouldn't have gone to college at all had the rule not been changed. so now you have the players that would have gone anyways, and the freshmen that would have gone last year had they been able to....

[GavMan33]

Looks like Rickma is back in the game (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/slu/story/0F774D68A47BC1F7862572CA0076C67E?OpenDocument).

For those of you not familiar with St. Louis(I think that's pretty much everyone here). SLUs campus is a few blocks north of a neighborhood known as "The Hill", basically STLs Little Italy, some of if not the best food in the city. SLU is also a few blocks east of Barnes-Jewish Hospital, one of the nations foremost cardiology centers. Should be a good fit...

OK, I'm all for some Atlantic 10 press here. Hopefully Majerus will do a fantastic job for the Billikens, and the A-10 will start to get better as a whole.

[SmoothD41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2853904&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab6pos2

Andy Katz's revised, post-draft declaration, preseason top 25

of course players that aren't signed with an agent can still come back, and that would obviously change things...but something to kill the time anyways

[SoRight24]

Thank God Majerus returned to coaching, now we don't have to hear him spew his bullshit on ESPN.

That guy is the worst announcer/analyst ever.

[seekupig]

Wow.... do you think John Callipari is happy with his team for next year? :lol

"It's scary," Calipari said Sunday. "Everybody lost somebody except for us."

"You can make a case [for us as No. 1]. Everyone talks about our offense but we were in the top 10 defensively in three categories."

"We've got a terrific defense coming back, too," Calipari said.

that's it from him, here's Andy Katz's revised Top 25 since the declaration day passed.....

1. Memphis
2. UNC
3. Kansas
4. Georgetown
5. Washington State

read the rest on your own..... ;)
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2853904

[unccrombie]

the 3pt line is movin back starting 08/09 :bounce

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2859065

[GavMan33]

Thank God Majerus returned to coaching, now we don't have to hear him spew his bullshit on ESPN.

That guy is the worst announcer/analyst ever.

As the resident A-10 guy here, I'm super psyched he is in St. Louis. It will bring some media not only to the STL, but to the conference as a whole, and we desparately need some. Maybe we can make some national noise next year; with STL now suddenly in the mix, we could have them, Xavier, GW, UMass, and maybe URI.

In 2005 we were a one-bid conference with GW winning the A-10, and St. Joe's with its 14-2 conference record relegated to the NIT. In 2006, if not for Xavier winning 4 games in 4 days, we would have been a 1-bid league again with GW the one. And this year, if not for GW winning the conference tourney, we would have been a one-bid conference again, this time Xavier. I'd love to see if we can get those 2 bids to 3 bids.

In 2004, the A-10 sent (I think) 4 teams to the NCAA Tournament, and two Elite Eight berths with St. Joe's and Xavier. The Muskies are not far from there again, as shown in our game vs. Ohio St., and that would definitely bring some media back to the conference, and maybe look favorably on some other teams in the conference. Just a thought....

[justinandimcool]

^ You and your damn A-10 Bob :lol :p


NBA lottery draft predictions:


http://www.nba.com/features/draft2007_consensus.html

[UNLTrpt]

^ You and your damn A-10 Bob :lol :p


NBA lottery draft predictions:


http://www.nba.com/features/draft2007_consensus.html

*crosses fingers and hopes Minnesota wins the Greg Oden lottery*

When is the ping pong drawing anyway?

[GavMan33]

Syracuse Assistant Coach Mike Hopkins will be the successor of Jim Boheim as Syracuse's Head Men's Basketball Coach. No Boheim did not retire, and there is no timetable for this to happen. But when it does, it will be Hopkins at the helm. Good to see a Syracuse alumnus again at the helm....

[bustdstuff]

Syracuse Assistant Coach Mike Hopkins will be the successor of Jim Boheim as Syracuse's Head Men's Basketball Coach. No Boheim did not retire, and there is no timetable for this to happen. But when it does, it will be Hopkins at the helm. Good to see a Syracuse alumnus again at the helm....

Here's to hoping that when the time comes Wojo will replace Coach K.

[GavMan33]

Here's to hoping that when the time comes Wojo will replace Coach K.

Shhh. As a Duke fan, you shouldn't even think such blasphemous things. Shame on you....

[seekupig]

Here's to hoping that when the time comes Wojo will replace Coach K.

where the hell have you been hiding at?

[UNC41]

Now starting at C and PF for the Duke Blue Devils ... Lance Thomas and Brian Zoubek. :lol :lol :lol

[seekupig]

looks like the ACC is going to go to an 18 game conference schedule, as opposed to the 16 they are currently playing. won't go into effect for a couple of years, but it looks like it's happening....

[unccrombie]

hopkins to succeed boeheim: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2871275

[SmoothD41]

green leaving, hibbert staying.

[GavMan33]

green leaving, hibbert staying.

Good move on Hibbert's part. I think he needs another year. Also involving Georgetown. Apparently a Xavier Assistant Coach, Kenya Hunter, has signed on as an assistant for Coach Thompson at GTown. Good for him....

[UNC41]

UNC got its first '08 recruit today, a PG named Larry Drew. Scout's got him as the 4th best PG in the class, but he's the guy Roy's targeted all along. If Roy wanted him over the others, so did I.

[justinandimcool]

Yay Dustin
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2882935

[willthethrill]

UNC got its first '08 recruit today, a PG named Larry Drew. Scout's got him as the 4th best PG in the class, but he's the guy Roy's targeted all along. If Roy wanted him over the others, so did I.

I was so excited to see that we got LD the other day. Finally, a recruit! Hopefully Aminu, Davis and Samuels will come rolling in too.

Now starting at C and PF for the Duke Blue Devils ... Lance Thomas and Brian Zoubek. :lol :lol :lol

Good article detailing that situation. Has K lost his touch?
http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070523/COLUMNIST30/705230465

[seekupig]

Yay Dustin
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2882935

there's more to it than what was initially reported.....


LAWRENCE | Kansas guard Brandon Rush has withdrawn from the NBA draft because of a knee injury sustained Thursday evening in a Kansas City gym.
John Walker, Rush’s former summer league coach and mentor, said Rush began experiencing soreness in his right knee after landing awkwardly on a layup attempt. A magnetic resonance imaging exam performed Friday morning in Lawrence revealed ligament damage.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/colleges/story/123834.html

[UNC41]

Yay Dustin
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2882935

I saw this and thought Kansas was up there with UNC, UCLA, Memphis and Georgetown as elite teams next year.

there's more to it than what was initially reported.....


LAWRENCE | Kansas guard Brandon Rush has withdrawn from the NBA draft because of a knee injury sustained Thursday evening in a Kansas City gym.
John Walker, Rush’s former summer league coach and mentor, said Rush began experiencing soreness in his right knee after landing awkwardly on a layup attempt. A magnetic resonance imaging exam performed Friday morning in Lawrence revealed ligament damage.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/colleges/story/123834.html

I saw this and thought maybe not. I'd be nice to see Rush healthy. He's a ton of fun to watch.

[UNC41]

Rivals.com Power Rankings

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/viewcbse.asp

Roy - #6 HC
Hansbrough - #1 PF
Lawson - #4 PG
Ellington - #6 SG

A couple of lolz from the list ...
- Donovan #1 coach
- Paulus ahead of Collins at PG

[GavMan33]

Rivals.com Power Rankings

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/viewcbse.asp

Roy - #6 HC
Hansbrough - #1 PF
Lawson - #4 PG
Ellington - #6 SG

A couple of lolz from the list ...
- Donovan #1 coach
- Paulus ahead of Collins at PG

Not #1 coach anymore....

[unccrombie]

Not #1 coach anymore....
zing

[GavMan33]

So who is the #1 coach now? Xavier head coach Sean Miller?

No, honest. Howland at UCLA? Williams at UNC? My vote will be cast to John Thompson III at Georgetown....

[UNC41]

Not #1 coach anymore....

That's why it brought the lolz.

So who is the #1 coach now? Xavier head coach Sean Miller?

No, honest. Howland at UCLA? Williams at UNC? My vote will be cast to John Thompson III at Georgetown....

I think Thompson is a really good coach, but it's quick to anoint him #1 after just one good tourney run.

[GavMan33]

That's why it brought the lolz.



I think Thompson is a really good coach, but it's quick to anoint him #1 after just one good tourney run.

OK, I can agree. I thought he did a great job with relatively little. I think Hibbert is only OK, and obviously Green. Not too much else there though.

Underachieving coach? Jamie Dixon, Pittsburgh. And yes, I'm a huge Pitt hater, only because I think they always fade come postseason time. Similar to Bob Huggins's Cincinnati days....

[UNC41]

OK, I can agree. I thought he did a great job with relatively little. I think Hibbert is only OK, and obviously Green. Not too much else there though.

Underachieving coach? Jamie Dixon, Pittsburgh. And yes, I'm a huge Pitt hater, only because I think they always fade come postseason time. Similar to Bob Huggins's Cincinnati days....

Wallace, Summers and Sapp are all pretty solid players, but that wasn't the deepest team I've ever seen.

I don't know if I'd call Dixon underachieving. Yes, he seems to lead an overrated team into March year in and year out, but he's not working with a whole lot of talent either.

[chiznaz]

Just read that A&M landed 5 star small forward Anthony Jones for the 2008 class. Can't be too rough having a 6'9'' wing player. Nice "first signee" for Turgeon at A&M :)

[GavMan33]

Just read that A&M landed 5 star small forward Anthony Jones for the 2008 class. Can't be too rough having a 6'9'' wing player. Nice "first signee" for Turgeon at A&M :)

:thumbsup Good stuff bro. Glad to see that things won't suffer in College Station with a coaching change. Good for the Aggies....

[chiznaz]

Just read that A&M landed 5 star small forward Anthony Jones for less than 24 hrs. It can be rough having a 6'9'' wing player for less than 24 hrs. Almost a Nice "first signee" for Turgeon at A&M :)



Pretty much his momma said not so fast. A made commitment without her there and without his AAU coaches. It was him and his HS coaches apparently.

I really don't know what's going on. Either his mom is going to pick where he goes (and she doesn't like A&M for whatever reason), or he felt too pressured to make a decision right now, and wants those said people in on the process.

Either way, this makes AAU and basketball recruiting look even more shady than it has been. If the kid really does want to be at A&M, then the people around him need to have a nice plate of STFU and let the kid live his own life.

[GavMan33]

Pretty much his momma said not so fast. A made commitment without her there and without his AAU coaches. It was him and his HS coaches apparently.

I really don't know what's going on. Either his mom is going to pick where he goes (and she doesn't like A&M for whatever reason), or he felt too pressured to make a decision right now, and wants those said people in on the process.

Either way, this makes AAU and basketball recruiting look even more shady than it has been. If the kid really does want to be at A&M, then the people around him need to have a nice plate of STFU and let the kid live his own life.

I understand that AAU is a great way to play in front of college coaches and scouts. But I just don't see that it's a great upside in terms of quality of hoop. I was down at the Rumble in the Bronx over the weekend. Saw some good hoop; guys committed to Florida, Stanford, Seton Hall, Xavier, among others. But it's really just running up-and-down all game long, seeing who's the most athletic.

Now athleticism is a very important part. Because you're a great shooter means nothing. I bet there are some good shooters reading this thread. Shooters are a dime a dozen. Athleticism is also a dime a dozen, especially in New York City. Gotta be able to put it together.

Not really sure where I was going with that. Bottom line: don't like AAU. I think coaches don't necessarily point their kids in the right direction. Maybe the kid that verballed to A&M felt pressured into a decision; but maybe he truly in his heart wants to be an Aggie. I think AAU coaches are all in it for themselves, not for the good of the kids....

[UNC41]

Tim Floyd is a recruiting pedophile.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6938958?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10136

[GavMan33]

Tim Floyd is a recruiting pedophile.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6938958?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10136

:confused I'm not even going to go into what I think about this story. How can you possibly offer a scholarship to a 14-year old kid?

[SoRight24]

Floyd is a fucking snake.

He won't even be at SC when that kig gets there.

[UNC41]

:confused I'm not even going to go into what I think about this story. How can you possibly offer a scholarship to a 14-year old kid?

You can't text message recruits, but you can recruit them at 14. It's fucked up.

[GavMan33]

You can't text message recruits, but you can recruit them at 14. It's fucked up.

:lol

[justinandimcool]

I don't even know what Tim's doing, but he's done a good job so far with the 08 and 09 commitments so I'm not going to complain.

[UNC41]

I don't even know what Tim's doing, but he's done a good job so far with the 08 and 09 commitments so I'm not going to complain.

There's a good shot Derozen may wind up in Chapel Hill.

[justinandimcool]

There's a good shot Derozen may wind up in Chapel Hill.

Hmm, since when?

[GavMan33]

I'm not big into the whole recruiting deal, but it seems everybody else is. So I'll just throw it out there. The Xavier 08 class is set, 3 in the top 150, 1 just outside. 6'11" Kenny Frease from Ohio (#41), 6'2"ish Brad Redford from Michigan (somewhere in the 100s), and 6'1" Mark Lyons from New York (right around 150). The fourth is Brian Walsh, a 6'4" shooting guard from Pittsburgh (somewhere outside 150, but apparently close enough that with a good AAU showing this summer, could crack it in the fall).

Andy Katz has Xavier in as #22 in his latest Preseason rankings. Again, none of this means much to me, just thought I'd share....

[justinandimcool]

God dammit Bob, don't you know that during the offseason the Atlantic Ten fades back with the rest of the mid major conferences that no one cares about? WHO THE FUCK CARES!?!?!?



just kidding :hug

Xavier looks stacked, impressive. Nice to see a big guy like Frease, hopefully he's a great stud defensively and by his rank, he must be. :thumbsup

And hopefully your backcourt can step it up on defense when it comes to guarding three point shooters late in the game. You never know when you're up by three with ten seconds left trying to avoid overtime. But that never happens.


Don't kill me. :angel

[kydmb99]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2908108

Never too early for some pre-season bracketology/polls. :)

[justinandimcool]

Nice to see all those Pac-10 teams up there. If the Lopez twins breakthrough as actual offensive threats this year, look for Stanford to move up, way up.

[kydmb99]

Nice to see all those Pac-10 teams up there. If the Lopez twins breakthrough as actual offensive threats this year, look for Stanford to move up, way up.

Yeah, the Pac-10 could be pretty tough next season.

Also, not sure if I agree with Kentucky being a #3 just yet. I think they'll definitely get better as the season progresses but I'd say between a 4-6 is more likely. If they do get a 3 though, I'll :bounce in the streets.

Also, Florida #25 in the pre-season poll? :confused

[clayj41]

I love seeing this thread topped!

[UNC41]

Hmm, since when?

I first heard he reopened his recruiting about a month ago and that it's a soft verbal to USC. One rumor I've heard is that he's likely to go somewhere other than USC and is looking at ASU and UNC. If that's true it looks good for the Heels. I'd suggest everyone go check him out on YouTube. The kid's an athletic freak. He reminds me of someone in the VC or Corey Maggette mold.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2908108

Never too early for some pre-season bracketology/polls. :)

What I wouldn't give to have Marquette and Kentucky as the No. 2 and No. 3 seeds in UNC's bracket.

[GavMan33]

God dammit Bob, don't you know that during the offseason the Atlantic Ten fades back with the rest of the mid major conferences that no one cares about? WHO THE FUCK CARES!?!?!?



just kidding :hug

Xavier looks stacked, impressive. Nice to see a big guy like Frease, hopefully he's a great stud defensively and by his rank, he must be. :thumbsup

And hopefully your backcourt can step it up on defense when it comes to guarding three point shooters late in the game. You never know when you're up by three with ten seconds left trying to avoid overtime. But that never happens.


Don't kill me. :angel

This fucking guy. Hilarious. :lol

*Little shit* Bob mutters under his breath :lol

[justinandimcool]

Can anyone point me to a site (if it exists) other than collegehoops.net that has an up to date look at all the rosters/commitments going on round the country?

[justinandimcool]

So when do schedules come out?

[bustdstuff]

The sporting news is usually good about commitments and the like. As for schedules I go to my team site or ESPN, since they have a boatload of the games.

[justinandimcool]

Ew, you have to be a member of rivals. And I guess schedules weren't released to ESPN yet. But thanks anyways Steph, greatly appreciated :hug :)

I found the Pac-10 Prospectus, pretty fabulous stuff. But they're the only conference that has one released. But it's pretty much EXACTLY what I've been looking for.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/pac10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/07-08REVISEDMBBProspectus.pdf

[bustdstuff]

Ew, you have to be a member of rivals. And I guess schedules weren't released to ESPN yet. But thanks anyways Steph, greatly appreciated :hug :)

I found the Pac-10 Prospectus, pretty fabulous stuff. But they're the only conference that has one released. But it's pretty much EXACTLY what I've been looking for.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/pac10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/07-08REVISEDMBBProspectus.pdf

I get you, but at least it's information.I don't remember when they usually get released, but I'm relativley sure it's after football starts. I usually check goduke.com for the schedule first. Then I go look to see how many aren't going to be on ESPN (usually easier to count the one's that aren't than are:p )

[willthethrill]

Can anyone point me to a site (if it exists) other than collegehoops.net that has an up to date look at all the rosters/commitments going on round the country?

Scout.com is good, Justin. You can look at any team's prospects/commits without having an account.

On that note, I sure hope Ed Davis decides to come to UNC, as Aminu is pretty much gone.

On the upcoming season, I can't wait....:D Give me an experienced, cohesive, talented group of kids in Roy's system for 1+ years, and I'm happy. That's all it took the '05 Champs.

[seekupig]

On the upcoming season, I can't wait....:D Give me an experienced, cohesive, talented group of someone else's kids in Roy's system for 1+ years, and I'm happy. That's all it took the '05 Champs.

fixed. :D :p ;)

[willthethrill]

fixed. :D :p ;)

That's just wrong. :violent :violent

I really hope KU and UNC get to play sometime next year.

[41ravens]

Ew, you have to be a member of rivals. And I guess schedules weren't released to ESPN yet. But thanks anyways Steph, greatly appreciated :hug :)

I found the Pac-10 Prospectus, pretty fabulous stuff. But they're the only conference that has one released. But it's pretty much EXACTLY what I've been looking for.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/pac10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/07-08REVISEDMBBProspectus.pdf

good find, justin. :thumbsup

[UNC41]

On that note, I sure hope Ed Davis decides to come to UNC, as Aminu is pretty much gone.

Hope no longer, Ed Davis is coming to Chapel Hill. :bounce :bounce :bounce

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/659302.html

[willthethrill]

Hope no longer, Ed Davis is coming to Chapel Hill. :bounce :bounce :bounce

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/659302.html
I know! I saw it around 6 today, so psyched! DT and Ed down low in 08-09.:multi

[unccrombie]

Hope no longer, Ed Davis is coming to Chapel Hill. :bounce :bounce :bounce

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/659302.html
kobeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[mizzoudmbfan]

Skip Prosser HC at Wake has died. Heart attack while jogging.

[bustdstuff]

My thoughts are with WF. An incredible loss. :hug

[unccrombie]

terrible death indeed, i loved that guy

[willthethrill]

Bryan, are you on IC or CB? A post on IC sounded like you. Made mention of UND and Minnesota, I thought I remembered those connected to you.

[seekupig]

Kansas released their basketball schedule for the upcoming season..... some pretty good games on there....

http://www2.kusports.com/mens_basketball/schedule/2007_08/

notable non-conference games.....

vs. Arizona (nov. 25th)
@ Georgia Tech (dec. 18th)
@ Boston College (jan. 5th)

[SoRight24]

Bryan, are you on IC or CB? A post on IC sounded like you. Made mention of UND and Minnesota, I thought I remembered those connected to you.

I have premium on IC.

IC is miles better than CB, in every way. :)

[UNC41]

Bryan, are you on IC or CB? A post on IC sounded like you. Made mention of UND and Minnesota, I thought I remembered those connected to you.

I lurk and post on rare occasions.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=AlVkzgvGbiu_RdmteNOy_eLevbYF?slug=rivals-144094&prov=rivals&type=lgns

I hope Roy takes the rims down early and gets the Heels playing tough defense from the get go. I can't wait to see the leaps Lawson, Ellington and Thompson make this year.

[UNC41]

A couple of photos in honor of Jackie signing with the Celtics. There's nothing like making a couple of All-Americans your bitch.

http://photos.tarheeltimes.com/UNC_Basketball_Photos/Photos/slides/Jackie%20Stuffs%20JJ%20Redick.html

http://photos.tarheeltimes.com/UNC_Basketball_Photos/Photos/slides/Jackie%20Over%20Hodge.html

[justinandimcool]

Oden vs Duncan on Oct. 30th.

Oden vs Durant on Christmas Evening.


The NBA might be getting more attention that it should from me this year :)

[UNC41]

Who do you guys think tops this list Rivals made? They'll post it tomorrow. I think it's got to be the '91 Runnin' Rebels. Yes, they lost to Duke in the title game, but I don't think it's really that debatable that they should be on top. I also think Kentucky's '96 team should definitely be second. The biggest snub on the list has got to be Duke's '99 team.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=696681

[UNC41]

Nobody? Must be August.

[UNC41]

I've always thought that North Carolina's title team in '05 was just as good as the Florida team that went back to back. The only difference was there was no mass exodus to the lottery after Florida won their first title. Rivals rated this year's Florida team better. I decided to go to our trusty friends at whatifsports.com to see if they agreed in a seven game series on a neutral court.

Game 1: UNC 102, Florida 75
Jawad blows up with 23 while May adds 17 and 10 and Felton almost gets a double-double with 14-9. Nobody from Florida gets going as Humphrey leads the Gators with 13.

Game 2: UNC 92, Florida 68
The Heels win with a balanced attack. Felton leads the Tar Heel attack with 17, while May, Marvin and McCants score 16, 16 and 15 respectively. Florida's frontcourt is shutdown again as Green scores 15 and Humphrey 14 to lead the Gators.

Game 3: UNC 97, Florida 81
The Gators are closing the gap, but not by much. McCants gets hot and drops 24, including 5 for 6 from behind the arch. Four other Tar Heels score in double figures, including Felton's double-double with 15 points and 10 assists. Green leads four Florida players in double figures with 19 points, while Marreese Speights is a bright spot off the bench with 11 points in 11 minutes.

Game 4: Florida 99, UNC 96
The Gators avoid the sweep behind Taureen Green's 24 points. Horford finally shows up with 18 points and 10 boards and Brewer posts a nice line with 14 points, 6 boards and 6 assists. Felton drops 23, but the Heels aren't going to beat a team like Florida when he only gets 3 assists.

Game 5: UNC 95, Florida 81
The Heels win despite just 2 points from Felton, although he did chip win with 8 assists and just one turnover. McCants was the story of the game as he went 10 for 12 from the field, including 4 for 4 from deep, for 29 points. Marvin Williams added 17 and 10. Humphrey and Horford lead the Gators, who were unable to recover from a 24 point halftime deficit, with 14 points a piece.

These games were with UNC listed as the home team on the neutral court. I went back and tested with Florida as the home team and the Heels swept it 4-0.

[seekupig]

Who do you guys think tops this list Rivals made? They'll post it tomorrow. I think it's got to be the '91 Runnin' Rebels. Yes, they lost to Duke in the title game, but I don't think it's really that debatable that they should be on top. I also think Kentucky's '96 team should definitely be second. The biggest snub on the list has got to be Duke's '99 team.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=696681

oklahoma '88 at #10? the same team that was beaten by Danny Manning and a few other guys wearing KU uniforms? interesting....

you could make a case for the KU '03 team that lost to 'Cuse just as easily....

[UNC41]

oklahoma '88 at #10? the same team that was beaten by Danny Manning and a few other guys wearing KU uniforms? interesting....

you could make a case for the KU '03 team that lost to 'Cuse just as easily....

I know nothing about that OU team, so I can't comment on that. They did place the Georgetown team that lost to Nova at No. 5, so there's no doubt in my mind that UNLV is No. 1. Like I said before, I'm amazed Duke '99 didn't make the last. That was one hell of a team.

[UNC41]

P.S. '90 UNLV will top the list, but '91 was the better team.

[UNC41]

Yup. They named UNLV '90 No. 1 and then went on to talk about how great the '91 team was for pretty much the whole article. Pretty dumb if you ask me. '91 was clearly the better team.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=699025

[willthethrill]

Yup. They named UNLV '90 No. 1 and then went on to talk about how great the '91 team was for pretty much the whole article. Pretty dumb if you ask me. '91 was clearly the better team.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=699025

Just got back from the beach, catching up some. They obviously didn't want to name a team that didn't win an NC to #1.

I've had many chats with a UNC bud of mine about matching up the '05 Heels to the UF champs. I really don't think there's any comparison.

5 - May v. Horford is really the only tossup.
Sean played unbelievable ball in March '05.

4 - Jawad/Marv v. Noah/Richard.
Right.

3/2 - Manuel/McCants v. Brewer/Humphrey.
An interesting matchup. Manuel is the same body as Brewer, and Brewer actually guards McCants, but this is all about even considering McCants's offensive skills and Jackie's D. Plus let's not forget bringing Noel off the bench to spell them and apply more pressure on the UF duo.

and lastly, the reason UNC wins almost everytime in this matchup
1 - Felton v. Green.
No contest. Felton went up against 3 guards better than Green (Illinois) and still came up with a huge performance.

All around a pretty clear whoopin'. But a 2-time champ (even in two extremely weak years of ball) is always going to get the vote from the media.

[seekupig]

Yup. They named UNLV '90 No. 1 and then went on to talk about how great the '91 team was for pretty much the whole article. Pretty dumb if you ask me. '91 was clearly the better team.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=699025

i agree that the '91 team was better, but i'd give the nod to '90 simply for the fact that they were the team that caused Bobby Hurley to run off the court in the middle of the National Title game with a case of the shits..... :lol :lol

[UNC41]

Just got back from the beach, catching up some. They obviously didn't want to name a team that didn't win an NC to #1.

I've had many chats with a UNC bud of mine about matching up the '05 Heels to the UF champs. I really don't think there's any comparison.

5 - May v. Horford is really the only tossup.
Sean played unbelievable ball in March '05.

4 - Jawad/Marv v. Noah/Richard.
Right.

3/2 - Manuel/McCants v. Brewer/Humphrey.
An interesting matchup. Manuel is the same body as Brewer, and Brewer actually guards McCants, but this is all about even considering McCants's offensive skills and Jackie's D. Plus let's not forget bringing Noel off the bench to spell them and apply more pressure on the UF duo.

and lastly, the reason UNC wins almost everytime in this matchup
1 - Felton v. Green.
No contest. Felton went up against 3 guards better than Green (Illinois) and still came up with a huge performance.

All around a pretty clear whoopin'. But a 2-time champ (even in two extremely weak years of ball) is always going to get the vote from the media.

I agree completley. Here's my take on the matchups.

May vs. Horford
Advantage: May.
Horford will wind up being the better NBA player, but May was completely unstoppable the last two months of '05. He put up 23 points and 18 boards and 26 points and 24 boards against the National Defensive Player of the Year, 16 points and 13 boards against a frontcourt that involved future NBA draft picks Charlie Villeneueva, Josh Boone and Hilton Armstrong, 21 and 11 against a solid player in Nik Caner-Medley, 17 and 11 against that tall drink of water, Luke Schensher, 29 and 12 in the Elite Eight against Wisconsin, 22 and 7 on a pretty good post player in Paul Davis at the Final Four and 26 and 10 in the National Championship game. I really like Horford, but May was absolutely unstoppable for those two months.

Williams/Williams vs. Noah/Richards
Advantage: Williams/Williams
I hate Noah, but he was a very good player and Richards as underrated in college. Still, I think UNC was just a bit better. Jawad was a nice complement to May as he was able to pull bigs out to the perimeter and make teams double May with a smaller guy in the post. Marvin was the same, but could do more on the block and a better rebounder. Plus, he just had a knack for coming up huge ... the offensive board and three-point play to clinch it against Duke and tip-in against Illinois.

Manuel/McCants vs. Brewer/Humphrey
Advantage: Draw
Overall, I'd rather have the UNC duo, but with looked at how the players match up against one another it's extremely close. Brewer is one of the few guys over the past couple years with the defensively ability to keep McCants in check, aside from his own head. Manuel would be able to do the same to Brewer, although he wasn't nearly as talented offensively as Rashad. Jackie didn't have a jump shot, but would probably get a couple buckets with his athleticism in the open court. Likewise, Humphrey would more than likely get four or five good looks from deep and probably knock down at least two of them.

Felton vs. Green
Advantage: Felton
This one's not even close. I could go on, but it's not really necessary.

i agree that the '91 team was better, but i'd give the nod to '90 simply for the fact that they were the team that caused Bobby Hurley to run off the court in the middle of the National Title game with a case of the shits..... :lol :lol

Well, he was a dookie ...

[seekupig]

since we're making cases for our teams, i'm gonna stretch it a little bit and throw out one of the best teams not to make it to the Final Four....

Kansas - 96-97 season.

final record - 34-2
Big XII - 15-1
home - 15-0
away - 10-1
neutral - 9-1
Big XII champs, regular season and tourney.

only losses were at Mizzou in 2OT, and vs. eventual champs Arizona in the tourney.

avg. pts per game - 84.9
avg. pts against - 66.1

starting 5...

G - Jacque Vaughn
G - Jerod Haase
F - Paul Piece
F - Raef Lafrentz
C - Scott Pollard

[willthethrill]

starting 5...

G - Jacque Vaughn
G - Jerod Haase
F - Paul Piece
F - Raef Lafrentz
C - Scott Pollard

That guy's not so bad anymore. ;)

[SoRight24]

Our schedule pretty much BLOWS this year.

A whole month without a game at the Smith Center? Bullshit.

[UNC41]

I can see how that sucks as a student, but I kind of like it. We'll learn a lot about the team with road games against NCAA tournament teams like Ohio St, Kentucky and Penn, and a potential neutral sight game against Louisville.

[justinandimcool]

ACC schedules are out? POST EM BITCHES :p

This is exciting :multi

[GavMan33]

Schedules. And I know everybody in this room loves the Atlantic 10 :lol And Xavier in particular, so I'm just gonna give you a little taste of the most ambitious schedule in the school's history. We have games this season against Virginia, Tennessee, Indiana, Cincinnati, Creighton, and Arizona State. Throw in our always tough rivalry game vs. Miami (OH), and that's a very tough nonconference schedule. But as you all can imagine, it's very difficult to get an at-large berth into the NCAAs when you don't come from a major conference, so it's imperative for us to schedule big.

The Tennessee game will be at Xavier this season, which is a return game from a game we played in Knoxville in the 2004-2005 season. The game was supposed to be returned in 05-06, but when Bruce Pearl became the coach at UT, he pulled out of the game, and they moved it to this season. We got a major pickup when we were able to get Virginia on the schedule in a home-and-home. The first game was supposed to be in Charlottesville, but UVA had to move it to make room for Syracuse to go to Charlottesville to play, so next season we will be at UVA. The IU game is part of a tournament (I don't remember the name of it) in Chicago. There are two guarantee-type games on our homecourt, and then two big games in Chicago. Rounding out the nonconference we have Delaware St., Coppin St., Oakland, Belmont, and maybe one other I'm forgetting.

The Atlantic 10 is changing the way they do their conference scheduling. They now have the conference split into tiers, with the top teams playing the other top teams twice. So this season we play George Washington, St. Joseph's, and Dayton twice, everybody else once. In addition to this, teams in the top tier may not schedule anybody in their nonconference with an RPI under 200. The conference of course is allowing the schools to honor existing contracts with schools. Interesting stuff for you ACC, Big XII, and PAC-10 boys in the house :lol

[UNC41]

ACC schedules are out? POST EM BITCHES :p

This is exciting :multi

Here's Carolina's. It's a fairly solid schedule with another beatdown of Kentucky, Ohio St., Penn and probably Louisville.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/3/bbschedule.html

I haven't seen dook's schedule, but it's pretty safe to say they play all cupcakes at Cameron or American Airlines Arena in East Durham, NJ.

[GavMan33]

Here's Carolina's. It's a fairly solid schedule with another beatdown of Kentucky, Ohio St., Penn and probably Louisville.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/3/bbschedule.html

I haven't seen dook's schedule, but it's pretty safe to say they play all cupcakes at Cameron or American Airlines Arena in East Durham, NJ.

First I forgot to mention that Xavier is also playing Kansas St. this season.

In terms of the Dookies, I did see the other day that they are playing Davidson in Charlotte. I imagine the Devils will win the game with relative ease, but Davidson is no slouch....

[willthethrill]

I can see how that sucks as a student, but I kind of like it. We'll learn a lot about the team with road games against NCAA tournament teams like Ohio St, Kentucky and Penn, and a potential neutral sight game against Louisville.