Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[GavMan33]

basketball is mackey....and I haven't been there in so long I hardly even remember it. I'm sure it probably sucks, most things at Purdue do.

Related to Purdue. Not sure if you have the Big Ten Network out there. But if you do, guess who you get to hear for in-studio analysis? That's right; legendary Boilermaker coach Gene Keady :lol I'd imagine that'd be a snooze-fest, huh?

[willthethrill]

Oh damn, Zeller best come to Chapel Hill if he wants to play his style of basketball. But if he'd rather play grind it out basketball, that's his choice. Wahtever, it's halloween and I live in Chapel hilkl... yessssssssssssssss!!! #1.

[SoRight24]

Oh damn, Zeller best come to Chapel Hill if he wants to play his style of basketball. But if he'd rather play grind it out basketball, that's his choice. Wahtever, it's halloween and I live in Chapel hilkl... yessssssssssssssss!!! #1.

You good and drunk? :lol

[chiznaz]

Oh, and we hate them more than anyone. :D

That's definitely up for grabs:lol

[seekupig]

While Brown told his North Carolina team that he wasn't a candidate for the recently-vacated job at the University of Texas, he was soon identified by Longhorn Athletic Director DeLoss Dodds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLoss_Dodds) and the Texas search committee as one of only two men they were interested in hiring. At the time, the Tar Heels had just completed their most successful season in years. The 1997 Tar Heels notched a 10-1 record--only the third 10-win regular season in school history. They were slated to appear in the Gator Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gator_Bowl) for the second year in a row--only their second (or third) New Year's Day bowl game since the Justice era. They were also all but assured of their highest final ranking in the AP Poll in half a century.
On December 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2), 1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997), Brown was contacted while at the ACC's football banquet in Atlanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta). He agreed to meet with the hiring committee, which included Dodds, Texas coaching legend Darrell Royal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Royal), several former Texas players, and several important boosters, most notably Tom Hicks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hicks) (owner of the Dallas Stars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Stars) and Texas Rangers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Rangers_%28baseball%29)), who donated time, energy and the use of his private jet corps to the coaching search that also included an exploratory meeting with Northwestern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_University)'s Gary Barnett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Barnett) in Chicago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago).
Brown met the committee on December 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_3) in the Four Seasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Seasons_Hotels) hotel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel) in Atlanta.
The committee was impressed with Brown and Dodds offered him the job on the spot. The offer included a sizeable pay raise to about $750,000 a year (which could climb to as high as $1 million with incentives), and a similar amount to recruit assistants who loved the game, were familiar with college football, and could fit in at Texas.
Brown tentatively accepted, but went back home with his wife, Sally, to ponder the decision and meet with his coaching staff. After thinking about it, he met with his players and promised them that his future was at North Carolina. UNC officials countered with a longer, more lucrative contract than Texas had offered, but Brown changed his mind and stuck by his decision to go to Texas. The players found out later that day about Brown's decision to leave via a press conference.
That Thursday night, Brown flew to Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin%2C_Texas). He was introduced to an enthusiastic Longhorn crowd on Friday.
As a consequence of taking the Texas post, Brown was not on the sidelines during the Tar Heel's 42-3 rout of Virginia Tech in the 1998 Gator Bowl, having been replaced as head coach by defensive coordinator Carl Torbush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Torbush). To this day, no Tar Heel fan has ever forgiven Brown.



Wow, had no idea. That's shitty.

that story sounds eerily similar to an old Kansas basketball coach.... his name is escaping me at the moment... ;) :D

[UNC41]

that story sounds eerily similar to an old Kansas basketball coach.... his name is escaping me at the moment... ;) :D

Did Roy tell his Kansas staff and players at Kansas he was not taking the job the second time?

[seekupig]

Did Roy tell his Kansas staff and players at Kansas he was not taking the job the second time?

no, but he did tell Bonnie Bernstein that he "didn't give a shit about Carolina," immediately following the loss to Syracuse in the title game and then proceeded to take the UNC job a week later. :lol

i know it's not the same thing, i just like giving Tarholes shit over it.... living in this area i have to defend myself a lot... :lol

[UNC41]

no, but he did tell Bonnie Bernstein that he "didn't give a shit about Carolina," immediately following the loss to Syracuse in the title game and then proceeded to take the UNC job a week later. :lol

i know it's not the same thing, i just like giving Tarholes shit over it.... living in this area i have to defend myself a lot... :lol

I didn't think so, but honestly didn't know for sure. And I expect nothing less from you. You've got to defend your self down there.

And despite not liking what came out of Roy's mouth, it was awesome when he said that to Bernstein. That's not a side of Roy that comes out very often.

[seekupig]

I didn't think so, but honestly didn't know for sure. And I expect nothing less from you. You've got to defend your self down there.

And despite not liking what came out of Roy's mouth, it was awesome when he said that to Bernstein. That's not a side of Roy that comes out very often.

i've got a t shirt with that on it.... :lol

front - CAROWHINA
back - I agree with Roy, "i don't give a shit about Carolina"

[seekupig]

Ahhh, good hit. So then, for instance, Xavier either got one #24 ranking, or 2 #25 rankings, and so on down the line. So there was a maximum of 150 points, and Carolina got 149 of them. Wow :lol

i gave them a #25 ranking just for you. i had a team in their twice so when i sent him the team i wanted to add, he dropped them to #24. that was my token vote for you, they'll have to earn the rest.... :lol

[GavMan33]

no, but he did tell Bonnie Bernstein that he "didn't give a shit about Carolina," immediately following the loss to Syracuse in the title game and then proceeded to take the UNC job a week later. :lol

i know it's not the same thing, i just like giving Tarholes shit over it.... living in this area i have to defend myself a lot... :lol

i gave them a #25 ranking just for you. i had a team in their twice so when i sent him the team i wanted to add, he dropped them to #24. that was my token vote for you, they'll have to earn the rest.... :lol

I didn't realize that he had such a quote. That said, right after the NCAA title game, that´s the last thing you wanna hear about, everybody knows that.

Yeah, well, Dustin, we gotta earn respect from everybody else too, so it´s not that big a deal....Coming out of the A-10, we know what we're up against. Just get ready to start making legit votes for X later on this season ;)

EDIT: Bonnie Bernstein is gorgeous. That is all.

[UNC41]

I didn't realize that he had such a quote. That said, right after the NCAA title game, that´s the last thing you wanna hear about, everybody knows that.

Yeah, well, Dustin, we gotta earn respect from everybody else too, so it´s not that big a deal....Coming out of the A-10, we know what we're up against. Just get ready to start making legit votes for X later on this season ;)

EDIT: Bonnie Bernstein is gorgeous. That is all.

You've got the respect of Jeff Goodman ...

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7372444

[SoRight24]

that story sounds eerily similar to an old Kansas basketball coach.... his name is escaping me at the moment... ;) :D

But that is a little bit different.

UNC is Roy's alma mater, he was very close with Dean Smith and couldn't turn us down the second time.

Mack just bolted a team that he had put in the top 10 and was on the rise and left us high and dry. We are still feeling the effects of that son of a bitch these days, it set our football program back 10 years....

Luckily, we have Butch Davis now.

[willthethrill]

I would like to apologize for my post above. Whew.

[seekupig]

But that is a little bit different.

UNC is Roy's alma mater, he was very close with Dean Smith and couldn't turn us down the second time.

i know it's different, and i don't hold it against him. but just for fun, i'll give you the recycled response i give to Carolina fans every day that give me that response....

"Kansas was Dean's alma mater and he never felt the need to go back...." :lol

it's only funny because your average Tar Heel fan doesn't know that and doesn't believe it when i tell them....

[UNC41]

i know it's different, and i don't hold it against him. but just for fun, i'll give you the recycled response i give to Carolina fans every day that give me that response....

"Kansas was Dean's alma mater and he never felt the need to go back...." :lol

it's only funny because your average Tar Heel fan doesn't know that and doesn't believe it when i tell them....

Neither did Rupp. ;)

[seekupig]

Neither did Rupp. ;)

they may not have a lot of National Titles, but you can't argue the history of the program.... James Naismith, Adolph Rupp, Dean Smith, Phog Allen, Roy Williams, etc....

[UNC41]

they may not have a lot of National Titles, but you can't argue the history of the program.... James Naismith, Adolph Rupp, Dean Smith, Phog Allen, Roy Williams, etc....

They had a coaching tree in this year's Athlon prieview that just listed Dean and Rupp's diciples below Naismith and it's crazy.

[SoRight24]

i know it's different, and i don't hold it against him. but just for fun, i'll give you the recycled response i give to Carolina fans every day that give me that response....

"Kansas was Dean's alma mater and he never felt the need to go back...." :lol

it's only funny because your average Tar Heel fan doesn't know that and doesn't believe it when i tell them....

You crazy phoggers. :lol

[GavMan33]

You've got the respect of Jeff Goodman ...

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7372444

Hot damn! #19? Damn that's high. I know we'll be OK, but looking at it objectively. How can you put a team that lost 3 key starters to graduation, and that doesn't reload like a Carolina or somebody like that, at #19 that quick? That's respect, that's for sure

[willthethrill]

i know it's different, and i don't hold it against him. but just for fun, i'll give you the recycled response i give to Carolina fans every day that give me that response....

"Kansas was Dean's alma mater and he never felt the need to go back...." :lol

it's only funny because your average Tar Heel fan doesn't know that and doesn't believe it when i tell them....

I kinda felt it was pretty much inevitable anyway. Would you agree?

[GavMan33]

You've got the respect of Jeff Goodman ...

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7372444

Reading into this guy's rankings further, this is not too legit. He's got 4 non-BCS schools not named Memphis in his Top 25. Illegit. I'll give him Southern Illinois, and MAYBE Gonzaga. No way 4 non-BCS schools not named Memphis should be in the PRESEASON Top 25....

[SoRight24]

Reading into this guy's rankings further, this is not too legit. He's got 4 non-BCS schools not named Memphis in his Top 25. Illegit. I'll give him Southern Illinois, and MAYBE Gonzaga. No way 4 non-BCS schools not named Memphis should be in the PRESEASON Top 25....

NC State at #18?

I know the Pack are gonna be pretty good this year, but damn thats a little premature.

Goodman has always been somewhat of a douche though....

[UNC41]

I have Gonzaga ranked #13 and NC State #21. Two people had the Pack higher than me, including one at #18.

[seekupig]

I kinda felt it was pretty much inevitable anyway. Would you agree?

no.

i never thought Dean would bring himself to beg to save his empire.... but i thought wrong. ;)

[SoRight24]

no.

i never thought Dean would bring himself to beg to save his empire.... but i thought wrong. ;)

Dean has mafia-esque connections, you should never doubt him. :lol

[GavMan33]

I have Gonzaga ranked #13 and NC State #21. Two people had the Pack higher than me, including one at #18.

To be completely honest with you, I only remember a handful of my picks :lol

Who do the Zags return anyway? They got the guy with the stash of mushrooms back. Who else?

And yes, NC St. will be on the up and up. I don't remember that coach's name, but I do remember I liked him a lot :thumbsup

[UNC41]

To be completely honest with you, I only remember a handful of my picks :lol

Who do the Zags return anyway? They got the guy with the stash of mushrooms back. Who else?

And yes, NC St. will be on the up and up. I don't remember that coach's name, but I do remember I liked him a lot :thumbsup

Heyvent, when not getting in trouble for drugs, is a beast in the post. Jeremy Pargo fits real well in their system. He's great to watch play. I like Bouldin at the other guard. He was one of the bigger recruits the Zags have gotten recently. They grabbed another Top 60 kid to play on the wing. But the guy who I think will really breakout is Micah Downs, who I'm sure Dustin could tell you all about.

[willthethrill]

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=1300698

So Duke wins by 79. What does that mean for the game tomorrow when UNC faces off against the same Shaw team? 100 point margin? 300?

[SoRight24]

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=1300698

So Duke wins by 79. What does that mean for the game tomorrow when UNC faces off against the same Shaw team? 100 point margin? 300?

I'm going to the football game and then directly after going to the basketball game.

Tomorrow should be a great day. :thumbsup

[UNC41]

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=1300698

So Duke wins by 79. What does that mean for the game tomorrow when UNC faces off against the same Shaw team? 100 point margin? 300?

It's going to be a matter of days until Duke fans are calling Singler the best basketball player ever to grace the face of this earth because he dropped 23 on a team of absolute scrubs.

[SoRight24]

It's going to be a matter of days until Duke fans are calling Singler the best basketball player ever to grace the face of this earth because he dropped 23 on a team of absolute scrubs.

Singler has that typical dookie stuck up brat look.

It's funny all the guys they recruit look and act the same.

[UNC41]

Singler has that typical dookie stuck up brat look.

It's funny all the guys they recruit look and act the same.

My first reaction to seeing him is Shavlik McRoberts, but a weaker in the post and with a better jumper.

[GavMan33]

Guys, I really get off on you guys continuing to shit all over Duke. Amazing; that would never fly over in the baseball thread, and especially in the football thread with our boy Ryan walking the streets over there. Anyway, I think it's great, having no real affiliation with either team.

I will say this. I was down at Jillian's last March, really upscale sports bar in downtown Albany, watching the Xavier/BYU 1st round game. Duke was playing VCU in that same time slot, so they had that game on, and probably 1 or 2 other games. I think the Duke game ended before the Xavier game did. I remember when that final buzzer went off and Duke lost, there was a collective cheer throughout the entire bar (and it's a big place). It was pretty unbelievable, that EVERY person in the entire place was rooting against Duke :lol

EDIT: Is McRoberts back this year?

[UNC41]

No Bob, McRoberts is gone. He went from being possibly the first pick in the draft out of high school, to a lottery pick after his freshman year to a second rounder in the most recent draft.

[SoRight24]

No Bob, McRoberts is gone. He went from being possibly the first pick in the draft out of high school, to a lottery pick after his freshman year to a second rounder in the most recent draft.

Which is what usually happens with players from Duke

K just destroys their draft status.

[GavMan33]

No Bob, McRoberts is gone. He went from being possibly the first pick in the draft out of high school, to a lottery pick after his freshman year to a second rounder in the most recent draft.

Which is what usually happens with players from Duke

K just destroys their draft status.

:eek Wow. Did he have more eligibility left? If he did, he should have gone back. I didn't think he was anything THAT special. I didn't realize he was that highly touted out of high school. I guess he had to have been to be playing at Duke. But still, unbelievable. The player carousel just keeps going around and around on Tabacco Road....

[SoRight24]

:eek Wow. Did he have more eligibility left? If he did, he should have gone back. I didn't think he was anything THAT special. I didn't realize he was that highly touted out of high school. I guess he had to have been to be playing at Duke. But still, unbelievable. The player carousel just keeps going around and around on Tabacco Road....

Personally, I think he left because he was tired of K's bullshit.

He was NOT happy. He didn't leave because he thought he was ready.

[GavMan33]

Personally, I think he left because he was tired of K's bullshit.

He was NOT happy. He didn't leave because he thought he was ready.

Honestly, you really have to wonder who's telling these guys that something's a good idea. And that goes for a lot of things. My favorite was I was on vacation in Jersey this summer, hanging out at the hotel pool. I see this girl in the pool with a bikini on; right about each breast, a bigass lightning bolt up to each collar bone. Like, who in the hell told you that was a good idea? :lol

But really, someone like McRoberts. Who told him he was ready to leave to go to the NBA. It goes for other guys too. Whoever's giving them advice, they need to get rid of.

[willthethrill]

I think it was probably K shoving him out the door as much as anything. It will be addition by subtraction with him gone. And to think he was the #1 player coming out of high school...

I'm excited about the festivities tomorrow, can't wait to get back in the dome.

EDIT: Also, it's not hard for Singler to look good with the cast he has around him.

[willthethrill]

I'm going to the football game and then directly after going to the basketball game.

Tomorrow should be a great day. :thumbsup

:thumbsup

Do you come down to CH often? Are there family and friends down here that you meet up with?

[HolyCow]

Obviously you guys didn't see it and I realize OU played Rockhurst, but Blake Griffin looks like the real deal. Six dunks, four alleyoops. He looks good.

[SmoothD41]

ty zeller press conference monday at 2:00 PM.

down to Purdue, Indiana, North Carolina, Notre Dame.

Have a feeling it will be Purdue, from what I've been reading.

[SoRight24]

It's Purdue.

And btw, Grand Valley State beats Michigan State in their exhibition. :lol

Wow....

[justinandimcool]

It's Purdue.

And btw, Grand Valley State beats Michigan State in their exhibition. :lol

Wow....

:eek

Not a good year for Michigan schools against non-division 1 teams :lol

That's not gonna count against them is it?

[SoRight24]

:eek

Not a good year for Michigan schools against non-division 1 teams :lol

That's not gonna count against them is it?

Nope won't count.

But it's still pretty embarrassing if you're a MSU fan. :lol

[GavMan33]

It's going to be a matter of days until Duke fans are calling Singler the best basketball player ever to grace the face of this earth because he dropped 23 on a team of absolute scrubs.

Obviously you guys didn't see it and I realize OU played Rockhurst, but Blake Griffin looks like the real deal. Six dunks, four alleyoops. He looks good.

It's Purdue.

And btw, Grand Valley State beats Michigan State in their exhibition. :lol

Wow....

The first two seem like two opposites don't they? I can't get into exhibitions and that crap. Practices are better. Exhibitions are just what they say: they are for people to come in and see them play, it's all for show, especially since it's supposed to be a big team come in and show off, like 6 dunks and 4 alleyoops, at the expense of a D-2 or D-3 so it's not "embarrassing anyone." Practices are lethal.

That said, what a bad hit for Michigan State. Ouch. Tom Izzo, what happened?

[OneSwtWld34]

I'm proud to say that I am a GVSU alum... Go Lakers!!

I have a feeling that MSU won't schedule GVSU anymore... :)

[GavMan33]

I'm proud to say that I am a GVSU alum... Go Lakers!!

I have a feeling that MSU won't schedule GVSU anymore... :)

I had to think what GVSU was for a second :lol

So where is GVSU?

[OneSwtWld34]

The school is located in Allendale, MI.. basically, it's about 30 minutes west of Grand Rapids, MI.

http://gvsulakers.cstv.com/index-main.html

The athletic program at GVSU is top-notch in Division 2!! The basketball team is 3rd in the preseason rankings. The football team is ranked #1 and has won 4 of the last 5 national championships. They currently have the longest winning streak going in all of college football (36 consecutive wins!). Also, the womens volleyball team is ranked 8th and womens soccer is undefeated and ranked #1.

[GavMan33]

The school is located in Allendale, MI.. basically, it's about 30 minutes west of Grand Rapids, MI.

http://gvsulakers.cstv.com/index-main.html

The athletic program at GVSU is top-notch in Division 2!! The basketball team is 3rd in the preseason rankings. The football team is ranked #1 and has won 4 of the last 5 national championships. They currently have the longest winning streak going in all of college football (36 consecutive wins!). Also, the womens volleyball team is ranked 8th and womens soccer is undefeated and ranked #1.

Damn. I'd say so. I knew Grand Valley St. sounded familiar. I guess, from what you're saying, I've seen them watching the Div. 2 Nat'l Championship game on ESPN. A regular jock school huh? I'm actually surprised that MSU would schedule this team then. Sure they're D-2. But they are ranked #3 in Div. 2.

Anyway, good education lesson to go to sleep on :thumbsup

[willthethrill]

It's Purdue.

And btw, Grand Valley State beats Michigan State in their exhibition. :lol

Wow....
Incredible.

[GavMan33]

Some tool in the upset thread or whatever it is is saying how Justin Cage made a great acting job when Oden slammed him to the floor last year. You think my blood pressure's not up? I tell you what, that is one uneducated guy, to say the least. All I ask is to be intelligent when you speak....

Now I'm going to put the DVD in and watch the last sequence over and over again. Wish me luck, hope I don't go off the deep end :violent :violent

[GavMan33]

Some tool in the upset thread or whatever it is is saying how Justin Cage made a great acting job when Oden slammed him to the floor last year. You think my blood pressure's not up? I tell you what, that is one uneducated guy, to say the least. All I ask is to be intelligent when you speak....

Now I'm going to put the DVD in and watch the last sequence over and over again. Wish me luck, hope I don't go off the deep end :violent :violent

Here you go fellas, here's the short version for you, courtesy of CBS. So you have it fresh in mind. Now I gotta put the DVD in. Wish me lucky. Also, tell me that's an act job. I dare you.

http://www.sportsline.com/video/player?id=134349s&channel=topvideos

[UNLTrpt]

1st time since 1952 KU has been ranked and Nebraska hasn't. And 2nd time in over 100 some years.

amazing.

[UNLTrpt]

1st time since 1952 KU has been ranked and Nebraska hasn't. And 2nd time in over 100 some years.

amazing.

ok that's football, not basketball

its happened many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many...more times in basketball.

[GavMan33]

1st time since 1952 KU has been ranked and Nebraska hasn't. And 2nd time in over 100 some years.

amazing.

ok that's football, not basketball

its happened many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many...more times in basketball.

:lol Yeah I got really really confused there

[thestand]

I'm going to have to keep my eye on this Kamyron Brown. 12 points and 5 steals in 28 minutes on the court. Oregon has a strong base with Taylor, Leunen, Hairston, and Porter. That 5th guy will probably be the best freshman available, and Brown looks promising.

[GavMan33]

I'm going to have to keep my eye on this Kamyron Brown. 12 points and 5 steals in 28 minutes on the court. Oregon has a strong base with Taylor, Leunen, Hairston, and Porter. That 5th guy will probably be the best freshman available, and Brown looks promising.

Oregon has a very promising year ahead of them. Not that Churchill Odia has anything to do with it :lol

[willthethrill]

UNC looked pretty sloppy last night against Shaw. First half was a mix of easy buckets around the rim and poor rebounding. At the start of the second half, the starters had such a hard time getting it going that the entire lineup was pulled, a UNC strategy known as putting in the "Blue Team." That group couldn't do anything either as Shaw climbed within 15 or so of the lead. That lead Roy to put in the 5 guys behind them. UNC scored 5 points in the first 6 minutes of the second half.

2-13 from three is very worrying, as that is one of the great unknowns and keys to this year's team. I don't remember seeing a single made three pointer, but I was also a few minutes late. 12 offensive rebounds by a small Shaw team is disappointing, and there were too many turnovers from the 2 and 3 position, most notably Ellington, Green and Ginyard.

Hansbrough was himself, dominating everything around him. Thompson looked very fluid, leading the break once. He was on the receiving end of some quick scores as he was the first one downcourt, a definite plus as a sort of replacement of Brandon Wright's fastbreak ability.

Lawson looked in control. He really could score at will against this team, and it seems like he doesn't know it yet. But when he wanted to go to the basket, nobody could stop him. He can be just as dominating as Tyler if he wants to be.

All in all, it's an exhibition, and I'm probably giving too much analysis for that sort of thing. UNC 114 - Shaw 62

[SoRight24]

Ellington played horrible last night.

He HAS to start hitting from 3. Coming out of high school he was supposed to be automatic, but he hasn't shown me that so far.

I know it was an exhibition, but Ellington looked the worst out of anybody.

I left with about 7 minutes left though because I was damn tired, that football game took alot out of me.

[willthethrill]

Ellington played horrible last night.

He HAS to start hitting from 3. Coming out of high school he was supposed to be automatic, but he hasn't shown me that so far.

I know it was an exhibition, but Ellington looked the worst out of anybody.

I left with about 7 minutes left though because I was damn tired, that football game took alot out of me.
Yea, he really hasn't shown me much lately.

Words can't describe how tired I was last night. I have never been less energetic at a basketball game. Tailgating for 5 hours and then the football game absolutely slayed me.

[justinandimcool]

Lute Olson takes a leave of absence.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3094359

Not health-related, just a family issue. Hope he's back soon.

[GavMan33]

All you Carolina worryers out there: RELAX, sit back, and have a beer

Your team is fine. You're ranked #1 in the country for a reason. I know for a fact that exhibition games, to players, is just a big joke. All it is is a chance for the team to run up and down against someone other than themselves. Northern Kentucky was ahead of Xavier most of the game before X put on a late run to win the game. Roy Williams is fine too. Nobody is reading into anything that happened at Dean Dome last night.

[justinandimcool]

Is Michigan State fine Bob?

[GavMan33]

Lute Olson takes a leave of absence.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3094359

Not health-related, just a family issue. Hope he's back soon.

Wow, and so close to the start of the season. I hope it's not serious, and everything is OK. Interesting they are scrimmaging a team from Montreal. You would think they would set a scrimmage from someone in state or near there. That's a travel expense for that team from Canada.

In other news, taking advantage of a new NCAA rule, Xavier was up at the University of Akron yesterday for a scrimmage. It allows two D-1 teams to play each other, but there is NO ONE present for these games. Just players, coaches, and other people that are necessary, such as managers. No score kept, no records kept. No spectators, no press. You can see the positives of this; you can set up different game situations, play a bunch of quarters, etc. The negative for schools like these is you lose out on all the revenue that would be generated from having a home exhibition. So for instance Xavier could get 8, maybe 9,000 for an exhibition game. Without the extra one, you lost that money. Xavier is able to do that this season due to an extra home game on the schedule, due to a late schedule change with Virginia that moved the game from Charlottesville to Cincinnati.

[GavMan33]

Is Michigan State fine Bob?

Trouble, no. Embarrassed? Absolutely :lol

[justinandimcool]

I realized there are no games on TV this week. The first one is Duke vs New Mexico State and that's next week. How am I supposed to catch any of these games? :(

[willthethrill]

All you Carolina worryers out there: RELAX, sit back, and have a beer

Your team is fine. You're ranked #1 in the country for a reason. I know for a fact that exhibition games, to players, is just a big joke. All it is is a chance for the team to run up and down against someone other than themselves. Northern Kentucky was ahead of Xavier most of the game before X put on a late run to win the game. Roy Williams is fine too. Nobody is reading into anything that happened at Dean Dome last night.

Oh, I'm not worried. I just expected us to look a little crisper with no new players. Definitely looked rusty, but I'm not biting my nails over next week's matchup with Davidson.

[UNC41]

Lute Olson takes a leave of absence.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3094359

Not health-related, just a family issue. Hope he's back soon.

Hope everything is ok with Lute. I've always liked him as a coach and fellow North Dakotan.

[SoRight24]

Oh, I'm not worried. I just expected us to look a little crisper with no new players. Definitely looked rusty, but I'm not biting my nails over next week's matchup with Davidson.

I'm not panicking either, but Davidson will be anything but a cakewalk.

It should be a good early season test. :thumbsup

And so should Vegas, with a possible matchup with Louisville.

[SmoothD41]

zeller to UNC....extremely reliable and leading poster on the IU board.

congrats heels.

[SoRight24]

zeller to UNC....extremely reliable and leading poster on the IU board.

congrats heels.

Yep, the mods on the Carolina board are confirming this as well.

Nice! Come on down Mr. Zeller! :thumbsup

[GavMan33]

Oh, I'm not worried. I just expected us to look a little crisper with no new players. Definitely looked rusty, but I'm not biting my nails over next week's matchup with Davidson.

Wow Davidson huh? Is that game scheduled every year? I'd be surprised Carolina would schedule that game this particular year if it's not played every other year. How about the ACC/Big 10 Challenge? What's on tap for that?

[SoRight24]

Wow Davidson huh? Is that game scheduled every year? I'd be surprised Carolina would schedule that game this particular year if it's not played every other year. How about the ACC/Big 10 Challenge? What's on tap for that?

We are playing at Ohio State.

Right after we play at Kentucky.

Tough stretch....

[UNC41]

Yep, the mods on the Carolina board are confirming this as well.

Nice! Come on down Mr. Zeller! :thumbsup

:bounce :bounce :bounce

[lockman21]

Is Michigan State fine Bob?

Shut it Justin.

[justinandimcool]

:hug It doesn't count :hug

[lockman21]

:hug It doesn't count :hug

:lol I know.

But a DII team...:(

[seekupig]

#4 in football and basketball..... it's a great time to be a Jayhawk. :multi

[GavMan33]

#4 in football and basketball..... it's a great time to be a Jayhawk. :multi

Hey...Dustin!

Would your football team just go ahead and lose already! You know the world's getting weirder everyday when Kansas is ranked, nonetheless in the Top 5. I'm looking for all the BCS teams to have 1 loss by the end of the year. That means YOU! And Ohio State. But let's get those Rainbows be the only undefeated team in college football this season.

In terms of basketball, #4 is normal. That's acceptable :thumbsup

[seekupig]

Hey...Dustin!

Would your football team just go ahead and lose already! You know the world's getting weirder everyday when Kansas is ranked, nonetheless in the Top 5. I'm looking for all the BCS teams to have 1 loss by the end of the year. That means YOU! And Ohio State. But let's get those Rainbows be the only undefeated team in college football this season.

In terms of basketball, #4 is normal. That's acceptable :thumbsup

no. i'm hoping they go undefeated and get screwed out of a title shot because their jersey says "Kansas" on it...... :BANG

[kydmb99]

no. i'm hoping they go undefeated and get screwed out of a title shot because their jersey says "Kansas" on it...... :BANG

As long as your coach keeps wearing those jumpsuits or whatever they are, I think Kansas should have a place in the title game regardless of their record.

[seekupig]

As long as your coach keeps wearing those jumpsuits or whatever they are, I think Kansas should have a place in the title game regardless of their record.

as soon as he finds something else with enough elastic in to cover him up, i'm sure he'll find something else to wear.

rumor has it that a wing joint in Lawrence offered him one free wing for every point they put up on Nebraska this weekend.....

[lockman21]

As long as your coach keeps wearing those jumpsuits or whatever they are, I think Kansas should have a place in the title game regardless of their record.

Seriously. I think it's hilarious that they keep making fun of him on SportsCenter though. :lol

[CrashDMB237]

Another one on the Big East...

http://www.spmsportspage.com/published/spmfeatures/big-east-as-players-leave.shtml

[willthethrill]

Wow Davidson huh? Is that game scheduled every year? I'd be surprised Carolina would schedule that game this particular year if it's not played every other year. How about the ACC/Big 10 Challenge? What's on tap for that?

Yea, we pretty much play them every year. I hope the team doesn't look past them, Curry is GOOD.

Zeller! :multi

[GavMan33]

no. i'm hoping they go undefeated and get screwed out of a title shot because their jersey says "Kansas" on it...... :BANG

Dustin, actually, that could very well happen. That's all that is wrong with college football. I hate the BCS :violent

[UNC41]

Hansbrough, Hibbert, Lofton, Neitzel and Collison make up the AP preseason All-American team.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3095643

[GavMan33]

Hansbrough, Hibbert, Lofton, Neitzel and Collison make up the AP preseason All-American team.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3095643

Can't go wrong with any of them. Except maybe Neitzel....

[lockman21]

Can't go wrong with any of them. Except maybe Neitzel....

Woah....how do you figure? :ugh

[seekupig]

Woah....how do you figure? :ugh

he probably means that he's a good player, but there are better ones out there. or he could mean that an all-american wouldn't let his team lose to Grand Valley State at home... ;)

[willthethrill]

Zing.

[justinandimcool]

Fuck Time Warner for not having ESPNU. How am I supposed to watch the Memphis game tonight or Kentucky tomorrow. Fuck I'm so depressed :(

[seekupig]

Fuck Time Warner for not having ESPNU. How am I supposed to watch the Memphis game tonight or Kentucky tomorrow. Fuck I'm so depressed :(

they do here...

[justinandimcool]

they do here...

That sucks so much.

I even had my mom argue with the Time Warner people. They just don't have it. My life is over.

[SoRight24]

That sucks so much.

I even had my mom argue with the Time Warner people. They just don't have it. My life is over.

Our Time Warner carries it too.

Sorry Justin. :(

[Carbon Copy]

such a beautiful time of year

[Carbon Copy]

1. North Carolina (29) 0-0 1,728
2. UCLA (24) 0-0 1,710
3. Memphis (18) 0-0 1,680
4. Kansas 0-0 1,568
5. Georgetown (1) 0-0 1,504
6. Louisville 0-0 1,380
7. Tennessee 0-0 1,371
8. Michigan State 0-0 1,296
9. Indiana 0-0 1,145
10. Washington State 0-0 1,103
11. Marquette 0-0 1,002
12. Oregon 0-0 918
13. Duke 0-0 868
14. Gonzaga 0-0 711
15. Texas 0-0 638
16. Texas A&M 0-0 623
17. Arizona 0-0 499
18. USC 0-0 480
19. Arkansas 0-0 468
20. Kentucky 0-0 372
21. North Carolina State 0-0 338
22. Pittsburgh 0-0 293
23. Stanford 0-0 290
24. Southern Illinois 0-0 222
25. Kansas State 0-0 216

out of these teams....quote and bold the ones where you feel the boosters help pay for the player's cars etc.

[willthethrill]

out of these teams....quote and bold the ones where you feel the boosters help pay for the player's cars etc.

Yikes. Easy there. Will just further stereotypes about those particular teams, whether true or not (ahem, Memphis).

[SoRight24]

Yikes. Easy there. Will just further stereotypes about those particular teams, whether true or not (ahem, Memphis).

:lol :lol

It was funny when State was drooling over Calipari a few years ago.

[SoRight24]

Speaking of Memphis, they are currently losing to Tennessee Martin 26-21. :lol

[justinandimcool]

I hate being a College Basketball fan in Southern California.

I'm missing the fucking season opener.

[SoRight24]

I hate being a College Basketball fan in Southern California.

I'm missing the fucking season opener.

Color me unimpressed with Memphis so far.

[justinandimcool]

Color me unimpressed with Memphis so far.

All the more reason to be upset that I'm missing this.

[SoRight24]

All the more reason to be upset that I'm missing this.

Not a fan of Memphi$, Justin? :lol

[justinandimcool]

Not a fan of Memphi$, Justin? :lol

Hahaha. I just want to see them play.

[willthethrill]

Well I'm stuck at work in the library if that makes you feel any better, Justin. I am keeping an eye gametracker though.

[Carbon Copy]

so NC got zeller? assholes

[UNC41]

so NC got zeller? assholes

With Zeller's ability to run the court he belongs nowhere near the Big 10.

[SmoothD41]

so NC got zeller? assholes

to be honest, it is a pretty weak class for big men....no WAY zeller is a top 5 center in the country, nor a top 20 player overall. I wouldn't lose any sleep over not getting him. He is going to be a nice player, and sure I wish he would have commited to IU, but it's not a huge loss for Purdue or IU by any means, in my opinion.

[willthethrill]

to be honest, it is a pretty weak class for big men....no WAY zeller is a top 5 center in the country, nor a top 20 player overall. I wouldn't lose any sleep over not getting him. He is going to be a nice player, and sure I wish he would have commited to IU, but it's not a huge loss for Purdue or IU by any means, in my opinion.

Probably a pretty big loss for Purdue more than anything. They have a nice class coming in and he really would've helped them reach the level of the other Big Ten powers.

That said, he fits perfectly in UNC's system. I'm psyched to have him. It's nice to know that when Roy goes to plan B (after missing out on the first batch of recruits he wanted), he can still get a top 10 class. Ballin'.

[justinandimcool]

Memphis has some athletic motherfuckers. Derrick Rose is like wow. CDR put up some good numbers, I look forward to watching him after catching a few glimpses last year.

[UNC41]

to be honest, it is a pretty weak class for big men....no WAY zeller is a top 5 center in the country, nor a top 20 player overall. I wouldn't lose any sleep over not getting him. He is going to be a nice player, and sure I wish he would have commited to IU, but it's not a huge loss for Purdue or IU by any means, in my opinion.

Both teams will be pretty thin in the frontcourt next year, so letting a kid as talented as Zeller out of state is a pretty big loss. And we all know what happens when a post player leaves Indiana and heads to Chapel Hill. :D

He's a kid who fits perfectly in UNC's offense and will more than likely be on campus for a minimum of three years. It's a great get for UNC.

[Carbon Copy]

to be honest, it is a pretty weak class for big men....no WAY zeller is a top 5 center in the country, nor a top 20 player overall. I wouldn't lose any sleep over not getting him. He is going to be a nice player, and sure I wish he would have commited to IU, but it's not a huge loss for Purdue or IU by any means, in my opinion.

i mean for our recovering program, i think he would have been a great fit. purdue needs a big man. they havent had one in a while. i have a feeling he could regret this decision. with him being an indiana bred player i think the big ten would have fit him well, but with UNC being such a big powerhouse, its hard to take him away.

either way, i think he'll be a pretty good fit anywhere. i think once he matures, he'll be an extreme powerhouse, but for now he's a little greenshoe

[willthethrill]

i mean for our recovering program, i think he would have been a great fit. purdue needs a big man. they havent had one in a while. i have a feeling he could regret this decision. with him being an indiana bred player i think the big ten would have fit him well, but with UNC being such a big powerhouse, its hard to take him away.

either way, i think he'll be a pretty good fit anywhere. i think once he matures, he'll be an extreme powerhouse, but for now he's a little greenshoe

Just because he was born in the Midwest doesn't make him a Big Ten-style player. He doesn't strike me as a workhorse on the block playing grind it out basketball. I think he made the right decision system-wise. Even if those are blue-tinted sunglasses I'm wearing. :cool

[GavMan33]

Woah....how do you figure? :ugh

he probably means that he's a good player, but there are better ones out there. or he could mean that an all-american wouldn't let his team lose to Grand Valley State at home... ;)

Hot DAMN! That sure was a ZING there Dustin.

[lockman21]

he probably means that he's a good player, but there are better ones out there. or he could mean that an all-american wouldn't let his team lose to Grand Valley State at home... ;)

:lol HEY! It was exhibition!

KU is going to lose to Mizzou.




































Yes that's the best I got. :lol

[seekupig]

:lol HEY! It was exhibition!

KU is going to lose to Mizzou.
Yes that's the best I got. :lol

you could have gone Bucknell, Bradley or Oral Roberts...... :lol

i expect to lose to Mizzou....:lol

[UNC41]

Anyone interested in setting up a fantasy college basketball league? I'd be more than willing to work with someone over AIM to setup a "Constitution" for the league before the draft.

http://www.profantasysports.com/easycite/ros.php?PID=6690

[willthethrill]

Anyone interested in setting up a fantasy college basketball league? I'd be more than willing to work with someone over AIM to setup a "Constitution" for the league before the draft.

http://www.profantasysports.com/easycite/ros.php?PID=6690

Hmm, that might be interesting, and would provide my fantasy fix for next semester after football gets done. Are there good websites for running a league?

[GavMan33]

Anyone interested in setting up a fantasy college basketball league? I'd be more than willing to work with someone over AIM to setup a "Constitution" for the league before the draft.

http://www.profantasysports.com/easycite/ros.php?PID=6690

Hmm, that might be interesting, and would provide my fantasy fix for next semester after football gets done. Are there good websites for running a league?

Boy fellas. Here's my issue, and why I don't participate in football, baseball, etc. fantasy leagues. I'd be involved for like two weeks, and then I'd forget to change people in and out, etc. I'm going to need to know the rules, and if someone could give me a worthwhile reason, I'd be open to it. I just have serious reservations about my performance in this kind of league....

[willthethrill]

Boy fellas. Here's my issue, and why I don't participate in football, baseball, etc. fantasy leagues. I'd be involved for like two weeks, and then I'd forget to change people in and out, etc. I'm going to need to know the rules, and if someone could give me a worthwhile reason, I'd be open to it. I just have serious reservations about my performance in this kind of league....

Just think of it as another way to learn about college basketball. You'll learn about a bunch of players you would never have known. You'll also encounter countless insults from those in this thread if you forget to change up your team which should cause you to stay on your toes. :D

[SoRight24]

Just think of it as another way to learn about college basketball. You'll learn about a bunch of players you would never have known. You'll also encounter countless insults from those in this thread if you forget to change up your team which should cause you to stay on your toes. :D

And also gives you reason to watch games which you otherwise wouldn't care about. :thumbsup

[seekupig]

Anyone interested in setting up a fantasy college basketball league? I'd be more than willing to work with someone over AIM to setup a "Constitution" for the league before the draft.

http://www.profantasysports.com/easycite/ros.php?PID=6690

i'm in. :)

[willthethrill]

And also gives you reason to watch games which you otherwise wouldn't care about. :thumbsup

A habit of fantasy football that absolutely kills my Sunday study time.

[UNC41]

I don't know of any Web site that does this, but my thought would be to create a thread here and do drops and adds that way. Once we agreed upon a scoring system we could keep score on a spreadsheet. I've got enough free time, and interest in college basketball, to do it.

Bob, you're in. Like Wilson said, it'll be a great way to learn more about the game and players.

[SoRight24]

FYI, College Gameday season preview is on right now on ESPN.

[SmoothD41]

i'd be interested in the fantasy league, sounds cool..

[justinandimcool]

A Fantasy League would just ruin my grades. I will already be watching all the televised games as it is and posting on here every day discussing them :lol

[GavMan33]

I don't know of any Web site that does this, but my thought would be to create a thread here and do drops and adds that way. Once we agreed upon a scoring system we could keep score on a spreadsheet. I've got enough free time, and interest in college basketball, to do it.

Bob, you're in. Like Wilson said, it'll be a great way to learn more about the game and players.

:lol OK, you heard the man.

But let's get one thing straight. You all know that I don't drink that big-conference koolaid. I like the little boys :thumbsup

I'm down with the countless insult thing too Travis. Keep me on my toes. Bryan, goodluck figuring this thing out online.

Kentucky/Central Arkansas on ESPNU right now. Apparently on for all of us Time Warner boys, except for Justin. Ironically, Mouthie just named Orange Juice a Diaper Dandie. Go figure, I never would have thought that :rolleyes

[DMBnick15]

i'd be in for a fantasy league.

oh and dick vitale picked hansbrough as player of the year, and tarheels to win it all!

GO HEELS!

[justinandimcool]

:lol OK, you heard the man.

But let's get one thing straight. You all know that I don't drink that big-conference koolaid. I like the little boys :thumbsup

I'm down with the countless insult thing too Travis. Keep me on my toes. Bryan, goodluck figuring this thing out online.

Kentucky/Central Arkansas on ESPNU right now. Apparently on for all of us Time Warner boys, except for Justin. Ironically, Mouthie just named Orange Juice a Diaper Dandie. Go figure, I never would have thought that :rolleyes


I hate you.

[GavMan33]

A Fantasy League would just ruin my grades. I will already be watching all the televised games as it is and posting on here every day discussing them :lol

Justin, all you gotta do is make it to Christmas in good shape. After that, just don't get kicked out of school. Before you know it, you'll be in that wonderful place they call college :thumbsup

EDIT: I hope you been workin on some of those interviews. Remember, sell yourself

[justinandimcool]

Justin, all you gotta do is make it to Christmas in good shape. After that, just don't get kicked out of school. Before you know it, you'll be in that wonderful place they call college :thumbsup

Lies. Last year around February and especially March killed my grades. :lol

[GavMan33]

i'd be in for a fantasy league.

oh and dick vitale picked hansbrough as player of the year, and tarheels to win it all!

GO HEELS!

I hate you.

Damn, another Tar Heel? You guys are everywhere.

And Justin, I got you :hug

Serious question. Who is the most popular college basketball team in the country? I'm thinking it comes down to Duke/Carolina. Any other nominees?

[UNC41]

Dickie V just asked how Illinois let Derrick Rose out of state to Memphi$. Tough question ...

So we've got myself, Bob, Travis, Wilson, Dustin, Justin, Smooth and Nick. I'll see if anyone shows interest in here for a bit and then start a thread later.

Anyone interested in helping me figure out how to set up the scoring? I'm headed grocery shopping at halftime of the Wolves game, but will be around later tonight or other nights this week.

[GavMan33]

Lies. Last year around February and especially March killed my grades. :lol

Every year, on my birthday (December 7), and in March, I ALWAYS, without fail, had bad hits all throughout high school. I got my first military detention (I went to military high school) because I got caught filling out an NCAA bracket, and they called it betting in school. That's bullshit :lol

[justinandimcool]

Duke, UNC, and UK as far as televised games, tradition, and NBA stars go. UCLA a close 4.

Number 1 most popular is probably UNC, because of Michael Jordan.

[SoRight24]

I had forgotten Thuggins left K State after just one year for West Virginia.

[justinandimcool]

Every year, on my birthday (December 7), and in March, I ALWAYS, without fail, had bad hits all throughout high school. I got my first military detention (I went to military high school) because I got caught filling out an NCAA bracket, and they called it betting in school. That's bullshit :lol

:lol :lol :lol that's fucking hilarious.

My pre-calc teacher had the whole class fill out brackets as an assignment. Needless to say I was the one telling everyone what to pick.

The girl I had a huge crush on (and is one of my best friends right now) guessed the Final Four correctly. Bitch.

[HolyCow]

Yeah! Vitale gave Blake Griffin a shout out. Nice.

[SmoothD41]

Dickie V just asked how Illinois let Derrick Rose out of state to Memphi$. Tough question ...

So we've got myself, Bob, Travis, Wilson, Dustin, Justin, Smooth and Nick. I'll see if anyone shows interest in here for a bit and then start a thread later.


name is Danny, by the way. Just so i'm not the only guy going by his username :lol

[willthethrill]

:lol OK, you heard the man.

But let's get one thing straight. You all know that I don't drink that big-conference koolaid. I like the little boys :thumbsup
That will only help you. There will be plenty of good fantasy players whom I've never heard of that you will probably know well.

Dickie V just asked how Illinois let Derrick Rose out of state to Memphi$. Tough question ...

So we've got myself, Bob, Travis, Wilson, Dustin, Justin, Smooth and Nick. I'll see if anyone shows interest in here for a bit and then start a thread later.

Anyone interested in helping me figure out how to set up the scoring? I'm headed grocery shopping at halftime of the Wolves game, but will be around later tonight or other nights this week.
I can help you out whenever. My IM is willthethrill120, email: wmandrew@email.unc.edu

[UNC41]

name is Danny, by the way. Just so i'm not the only guy going by his username :lol

:lol

Sounds good. When you guys going to start keeping top players in state? I'm not complaining, but there's been some serious talent coming out of Indiana recently that have nixed the Hoosiers.

And Wilson, I'll try and hit you up tonight. I don't know too much about AIM so if we get multiple people I'll have you set up the chat.

[GavMan33]

:lol :lol :lol that's fucking hilarious.

My pre-calc teacher had the whole class fill out brackets as an assignment. Needless to say I was the one telling everyone what to pick.

The girl I had a huge crush on (and is one of my best friends right now) guessed the Final Four correctly. Bitch.

Yeah! Vitale gave Blake Griffin a shout out. Nice.

I'm telling you Justin, Boyz II Men ;)

Royce, you got to get in on this fantasy college hoop deal Bryan's running.

Skip Prosser. What a horrible thing for those guys at Wake Forest. I know a few guys that saw him and spoke with him at an AAU Tournament in Orlando the day before he died. Said he looked great, was his usual fun-loving self. I never got the chance to meet Coach Prosser or to see him coach, not being from Cincinnati, but from all that I've heard, he's an outstanding character....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyh-vwPMcSU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtdGdNDujr8

[SoRight24]

:lol

Sounds good. When you guys going to start keeping top players in state? I'm not complaining, but there's been some serious talent coming out of Indiana recently that have nixed the Hoosiers.

And Wilson, I'll try and hit you up tonight. I don't know too much about AIM so if we get multiple people I'll have you set up the chat.

Even Clay has spurned the Hoosiers, and he goes there to school. :lol :lol

[willthethrill]

Even Clay has spurned the Hoosiers, and he goes there to school. :lol :lol

Impeccable timing. :lol :lol

[SmoothD41]

:lol

Sounds good. When you guys going to start keeping top players in state? I'm not complaining, but there's been some serious talent coming out of Indiana recently that have nixed the Hoosiers.



well, nobody wanted to play for Mike Davis during his time at IU (and actually Knight's last few years either).....hence why Eric Gordon verbally commited to Illinois at first. I'm not so sure Zeller wouldn't have come to IU if not for all the off court crap with Sampson. Just a lot of uncertainty there....I think once all this passes, and HOPEFULLY Sampson will get his shit together, more of the in-state talent will come to IU.

[GavMan33]

nobody wanted to play for Mike Davis during his time at IU.....hence why Eric Gordon verbally commited to Illinois at first. I'm not so sure Zeller wouldn't have come to IU if not for all the off court crap with Sampson. Just a lot of uncertainty there....I think once all this passes, and HOPEFULLY Sampson will get his shit together, more of the in-state talent will come to IU.

I think you're right on the money. Mike Davis was a sacrificial lamb, even with the national title game appearance. He just wasn't going to make it. And personally, I just don't think Sampson was the right hire for that job. I don't know who it is, but it's not Sampson, not at IU....

[SmoothD41]

I think you're right on the money. Mike Davis was a sacrificial lamb, even with the national title game appearance. He just wasn't going to make it. And personally, I just don't think Sampson was the right hire for that job. I don't know who it is, but it's not Sampson, not at IU....

I think he's a fantastic coach, i love his coaching philosophy (gritty defense and rebounding) and he is great with the players....but obviously there are other concerns.with him. If the NCAA doesn't come down hard on the program, I think all this will crap will blow over and he'll be on the sideline for a long time (assuming he keeps his nose clean :shrug)

[kydmb99]

Fucking ESPN U. :BANG

[justinandimcool]

What happened?


Those fuckers. I hope they died.

[SmoothD41]

not that they're supposed to be anywhere near as good as last year...but Ohio State just lost by two to the University of Findlay :lol

[willthethrill]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/preview2007/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=3092147

Katz suckz. I really don't think any part of that article is redeeming. Why do we need a face? And why must that face pander to the camera and have an ego to be the face of an amateur sport. Bleh.

In unrelated news, ESPN wonders who's more now in the world of water polo.

[SoRight24]

not that they're supposed to be anywhere near as good as last year...but Ohio State just lost by two to the University of Findlay :lol

The Big Ten sure is looking strong so far. :lol :lol

[SmoothD41]

The Big Ten sure is looking strong so far. :lol :lol

no kidding....at least my team knows how to take care of business. 50 point win against north alabama, hell yeah! :lol

[GavMan33]

not that they're supposed to be anywhere near as good as last year...but Ohio State just lost by two to the University of Findlay :lol

Link please? It's not on ESPN

[justinandimcool]

Is Michigan basketball playing Appalachian State anytime this year?

[GavMan33]

Is Michigan basketball playing Appalachian State anytime this year?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh! :lol

We can get the double-whammy Appalachian State/Grand Valley State smackdown on the state of Michigan....

[willthethrill]

Link please? It's not on ESPN

It's an exhibition.

[SmoothD41]

Link please? It's not on ESPN

i don't have a link for you....but I have a friend who was watching on Big Ten Network....they lost 70-68, exhibition game. Confirmed.

[GavMan33]

i don't have a link for you....but I have a friend who was watching on Big Ten Network....they lost 70-68, exhibition game. Confirmed.

Wow.

In other news, Xavier beats Georgetown, 74-51!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Georgetown College, but still :rolleyes

[justinandimcool]

Wow.

In other news, Xavier beats Georgetown, 74-51!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Georgetown College, but still :rolleyes


:lol :thumbsup




And here's confirmation. http://ohiostate.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=917&fid=435

[GavMan33]

:lol :thumbsup




And here's confirmation. http://ohiostate.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=917&fid=435

:shrug Great. So Findlay wins a close game vs. Ohio St., but Xavier doesn't :lorraine

I'm pretty tired. To bed. Goodluck with the points system tonight

[UNC41]

Anyone around and want to discuss scoring?

[justinandimcool]

I get a 100 point headstart because I'm the youngest (and the coolest).

[UNC41]

But then you lose 100 points for not having to stay up late, late, late to watch the best conference in the nation this year. Sorry buddy.

[justinandimcool]

But then you lose 100 points for not having to stay up late, late, late to watch the best conference in the nation this year. Sorry buddy.

Excuse me, but 7 oclock PM is VERY LATE for me.

[kydmb99]

Ehh... UK looked kinda ragged tonight, but that's to be expected. I'll take a 27 point win, but we're gonna have to play better if we want to compete with the Memphis, UNC type teams.

Unfortunately, I think we're still a year away. :shrug

[UNC41]

Excuse me, but 7 oclock PM is VERY LATE for me.

I'd suggest wiping the sand out of your vagina then ... nobody in this thread is going to do it for you. :D

[justinandimcool]

I'd suggest wiping the sand out of your vagina then ... nobody in this thread is going to do it for you. :D

Excuse me, but Jared and Bob always wipe the sand out of my future CBB fantasy league winning vagina.

Some friend you are.

[SoRight24]

I am going to pwn all of you.

[kydmb99]

Excuse me, but Jared and Bob always wipe the sand out of my future CBB fantasy league winning vagina.

Some friend you are.

Fuck that, I'm not touching that shit.

[UNC41]

Excuse me, but Jared and Bob always wipe the sand out of my future CBB fantasy league winning vagina.

Some friend you are.

But our little boy has to grow up sometime. If it takes a little tough love, so be it.

Oh, if any of you want to discuss add me on AIM theengy3. I have no idea how to do anything on there as the only thing I've used it for is a fantasy football draft.

[SoRight24]

Ehh... UK looked kinda ragged tonight, but that's to be expected. I'll take a 27 point win, but we're gonna have to play better if we want to compete with the Memphis, UNC type teams.

Unfortunately, I think we're still a year away. :shrug

I just hate it when UK has down years.

Oh wait.....no I don't. ;)

[justinandimcool]

But our little boy has to grow up sometime. If it takes a little tough love, so be it.

Oh, if any of you want to discuss add me on AIM theengy3. I have no idea how to do anything on there as the only thing I've used it for is a fantasy football draft.

You have no idea? I have no idea either :lol

[kydmb99]

I just hate it when UK has down years.

Oh wait.....no I don't. ;)

Too bad our down years are 23-12, not 8-20. ;)

[justinandimcool]

Too bad our down years are 23-12, not 8-20. ;)

Pwnage.

[SoRight24]

Too bad our down years are 23-12, not 8-20. ;)

I have totally erased the Doherty years away from memory, so I have no idea what you are talking about. ;)

[UNC41]

I have totally erased the Doherty years away from memory, so I have no idea what you are talking about. ;)

A national championship will do that. Not like Kentucky fans know anything about that this decade ...

[justinandimcool]

A national championship will do that. Not like Kentucky fans know anything about that this decade ...

Pwnage.

[SoRight24]

A national championship will do that. Not like Kentucky fans know anything about that this decade ...

:lol :lol

Nice.

[kydmb99]

I have totally erased the Doherty years away from memory, so I have no idea what you are talking about. ;)

I remember them very, very well...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KNmvyLHHEQo

[kydmb99]

A national championship will do that. Not like Kentucky fans know anything about that this decade ...

Yeah, only 2 more and you'll be all caught up. :)

[justinandimcool]

Pwnage.

[UNC41]

I remember them very, very well...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KNmvyLHHEQo

Crawford looked like he finally learned shot selection and defense tonight. And I was planning on taking the high road and not bring up three straight defeats too.

[kydmb99]

Crawford looked like he finally learned shot selection and defense tonight. And I was planning on taking the high road and not bring up three straight defeats too.

Crawford seems like a totally new player under Gillispie. Gillispie will win big at UK, and will have good success this year, but it will take a little bit of time to get back in the elite.

Really? Well, I didn't plan on bringing up more national titles and wins. Wouldn't really serve a purpose anyways.

[chiznaz]

Ehh... UK looked kinda ragged tonight, but that's to be expected. I'll take a 27 point win, but we're gonna have to play better if we want to compete with the Memphis, UNC type teams.

Unfortunately, I think we're still a year away. :shrug

Keep us (or me) updated on Kentucky this year. I'm interested in how the respond to CBC system and philosophy on the game.

I've gotten over my hatred of Billy Clyde for bolting to greener pastures.



Yall heard it here..... kentucky is going to be the most intense team to play against. When they get all the pieces in place, the defensive intensity is going to be unmatched in college basketball, and that alone will consistently win them 20+ games.




Edit: I missed everything tonight 'cause I had a acct test a 7 and a group project right after

[justinandimcool]

I hate you all. Fucking ESPNU.

[kydmb99]

Keep us (or me) updated on Kentucky this year. I'm interested in how the respond to CBC system and philosophy on the game.

I've gotten over my hatred of Billy Clyde for bolting to greener pastures.



Yall heard it here..... kentucky is going to be the most intense team to play against. When they get all the pieces in place, the defensive intensity is going to be unmatched in college basketball, and that alone will consistently win them 20+ games.

Yeah, their defense was amazing tonight. Central Arkansas shot 20% from the field and only scored 40 points.. They could be a really good team this year, just depends on people getting healthy and how far along the freshman come.

[UNC41]

Crawford seems like a totally new player under Gillispie. Gillispie will win big at UK, and will have good success this year, but it will take a little bit of time to get back in the elite.

Really? Well, I didn't plan on bringing up more national titles and wins. Wouldn't really serve a purpose anyways.

Well I suppose you need to live in the past since it's been nine years since Kentucky has gotten to the Final Four.

[kydmb99]

Well I suppose you need to live in the past since it's been nine years since Kentucky has gotten to the Final Four.

Yeah, thankfully we were already so far ahead of North Carolina in terms of national titles and wins that it won't really matter once Gillispie takes us back. :)

[UNC41]

Yeah, thankfully we were already so far ahead of North Carolina in terms of national titles and wins that it won't really matter once Gillispie takes us back. :)

Gillispie is going to make up ground when Roy's got the preseason No. 1 team this year, a top 5 class coming in next year, what should shape up to be a MONSTER class in '09 and already a top 10 commit in '10. :D

[justinandimcool]

Um. We got Lil' Romeo. BEAT THAT BLUE BOYS.

[kydmb99]

Gillispie is going to make up ground when Roy's got the preseason No. 1 team this year, a top 5 class coming in next year, what should shape up to be a MONSTER class in '09 and already a top 10 commit in '10. :D

Well, let's see.... He brought in 2 top 50 (one top 15) players in the first month he arrived for this year, has 2 top 50 (one top 20) players commited for next year, and a top 40 overall PF is a UK lean, plus 2 top recruits from 2010.

Tubby's gone. :)

[UNC41]

Um. We got Lil' Romeo. BEAT THAT BLUE BOYS.

:lol :lol

Well, let's see.... He brought in 2 top 50 (one top 15) players in the first month he arrived for this year, has 2 top 50 (one top 20) players commited for next year, and a top 40 overall PF is a UK lean, plus 2 top recruits from 2010.

Tubby's gone. :)

That's pretty solid, I'll admit. Almost as good as having the frontrunner for NPOY, an All-American caliber PG, PF who lead the U19 team in rebounds and blocks (was third in points and could easily be better than Pat-squared) this summer, two top 20 recruits for next year (and a PG who was top 40 before injuries last year), leans from 2 top 10 guys in '09 and a top 10 commit in '10.

Tubby's gone, but Roy's here to stay. :)

[kydmb99]

:lol :lol



That's pretty solid, I'll admit. Almost as good as having the frontrunner for NPOY, an All-American caliber PG, PF who lead the U19 team in rebounds and blocks (was third in points and could easily be better than Pat-squared) this summer, two top 20 recruits for next year (and a PG who was top 40 before injuries last year), leans from 2 top 10 guys in '09 and a top 10 commit in '10.

Tubby's gone, but Roy's here to stay. :)

Hey, I'm not denying the fact that UNC is stacked and will continue to do so under Roy Williams... I'm just excited that it's finally... well, exciting to be a Kentucky basketball fan again. I think having those two programs at or near the top is great for the game... As long as UK gets back to it's rigtful place as #1, of course. :evil

[UNC41]

Hey, I'm not denying the fact that UNC is stacked and will continue to do so under Roy Williams... I'm just excited that it's finally... well, exciting to be a Kentucky basketball fan again. I think having those two programs at or near the top is great for the game... As long as UK gets back to it's rigtful place as #1, of course. :evil

I agree it will be nice when/if Kentucky is back to an elite level, but the point/counterpoint was too much fun. I wish they'd play every year.

[willthethrill]

Boo on me, I missed all the bickering.

I think it was last season that I was talking with someone about what would have to happen for UNC to overtake UK in overall wins. I think it was something like UNC winning 5 more games a year for 10 years or something like that. Might be a little tougher now that Tubby is gone, but I expect Roy to pass UK before his time is up.

[kydmb99]

Boo on me, I missed all the bickering.

I think it was last season that I was talking with someone about what would have to happen for UNC to overtake UK in overall wins. I think it was something like UNC winning 5 more games a year for 10 years or something like that. Might be a little tougher now that Tubby is gone, but I expect Roy to pass UK before his time is up.

:thumbsdow Fuck that.

Billy G ain't letting that happen....

[kydmb99]

I agree it will be nice when/if Kentucky is back to an elite level, but the point/counterpoint was too much fun. I wish they'd play every year.

Yep, the two best programs in college basketball IMO. I expect UNC to take it this year but it should be a good game... Definitely a good learning experience for our freshman who have the talent, just need the seasoning.

[willthethrill]

Here's the current top 10 in wins.

Season Yrs. Won Lost Tied Pct.
1. Kentucky.......................................190 3 101 1,876 577 1 .765
2. North Carolina................................1911 94 1,827 677 0 .730
3. Kansas .........................................1899 106 1,825 762 0 .705
4. Duke............................................19 06 99 1,737 781 0 .690
5. St. John's (N.Y.).............................1908 97 1,668 784 0 .680
6. Syracuse.......................................190 1 103 1,630 752 0 .684
7. Temple.........................................189 5 108 1,623 888 0 .646
8. Pennsylvania..................................1897 104 1,572 886 2 .639
9. Indiana.........................................19 01 104 1,555 839 0 .650
10. Notre Dame.................................1898 99 1,548 851 1 .645

Say UNC averages 35 games a year, with Roy continuing his 80% winning percentage. That's 28 wins a year.

If UK averages 23 a year and UNC averages 28 a year for 10 years, UNC grabs the top spot. Maybe a stretch. We'll see how good UK becomes over the next few years.

EDIT: Damnit, I tried to format it correctly across the top. Oh well, that looks dumb.

[kydmb99]

Here's the current top 10 in wins.

Season Yrs. Won Lost Tied Pct.
1. Kentucky.......................................190 3 101 1,876 577 1 .765
2. North Carolina................................1911 94 1,827 677 0 .730
3. Kansas .........................................1899 106 1,825 762 0 .705
4. Duke............................................19 06 99 1,737 781 0 .690
5. St. John's (N.Y.).............................1908 97 1,668 784 0 .680
6. Syracuse.......................................190 1 103 1,630 752 0 .684
7. Temple.........................................189 5 108 1,623 888 0 .646
8. Pennsylvania..................................1897 104 1,572 886 2 .639
9. Indiana.........................................19 01 104 1,555 839 0 .650
10. Notre Dame.................................1898 99 1,548 851 1 .645

Say UNC averages 35 games a year, with Roy continuing his 80% winning percentage. That's 28 wins a year.

If UK averages 23 a year and UNC averages 28 a year for 10 years, UNC grabs the top spot. Maybe a stretch. We'll see how good UK becomes over the next few years.

EDIT: Damnit, I tried to format it correctly across the top. Oh well, that looks dumb.

Ehh... I just don't see UK winning only 23 games a year on average seeing as play about 35 as well... I mean last year was a down year for us and we still won either 22 or 23. Time will tell, I suppose.

[VanHorneDog]

Pac10 owns... some guy today on ESPN was like "9 teams form the pac10 can make the NCAA tourny"

and im like... yeah who is the oddball out? ASU.. fuck we suck. HAHAHA!

[lockman21]

College basketball needs to start.

Now.

[GavMan33]

Boo on me, I missed all the bickering.

I think it was last season that I was talking with someone about what would have to happen for UNC to overtake UK in overall wins. I think it was something like UNC winning 5 more games a year for 10 years or something like that. Might be a little tougher now that Tubby is gone, but I expect Roy to pass UK before his time is up.

At least you didn't go to bed Wilson. Better than I :lol

So basically it's who has more wins, who's going to have more wins, how everybody hates Tubby Smith, and apparently I was unfairly indicted of some things I do for Justin. That's shady. I just want my boy to get into college, that's all. Damn you people are rough.....

In other news, any news about a point scoring system? Or was it just bickering between UNC and UK all night?

[seekupig]

Or was it just bickering between UNC and UK all night?

all that bickering and no mention of the great school that produced Adolph Rupp and Dean Smith. thankless bastards..... :lol

[GavMan33]

all that bickering and no mention of the great school that produced Adolph Rupp and Dean Smith. thankless bastards..... :lol

:lol Good shit Dustin :lol

[willthethrill]

all that bickering and no mention of the great school that produced Adolph Rupp and Dean Smith. thankless bastards..... :lol

Oh, and I didn't realize KU was only 2 wins behind UNC. ;) KU has been better to UNC than any sort of recruiting pipeline could ever be.

[SoRight24]

all that bickering and no mention of the great school that produced Adolph Rupp and Dean Smith. thankless bastards..... :lol

FU....KU. ;)

[seekupig]

Oh, and I didn't realize KU was only 2 wins behind UNC.

they're not.... (unless this is wrong)

As of the beginning of the 2007-2008 season, Kentucky is the all-time winningest team in Division I Men's Basketball with 1,948 victories. The top 5 programs are:
1 - Kentucky - 1,948
2 - North Carolina - 1,914
3 - Kansas - 1,906
4 - Duke - 1,818
5 - St. John's - 1,705

[seekupig]

KU has been better to UNC than any sort of recruiting pipeline could ever be.

Dean Smith
Roy Williams (doesn't really count in my book, started at UNC)
Tyler Hansboro

not bad... :lol

[DMBnick15]

where's the final four this year?

[GavMan33]

Dean Smith
Roy Williams (doesn't really count in my book, started at UNC)
Tyler Hansboro

not bad... :lol

where's the final four this year?

Was Hansborough recruited by Roy at KU maybe?

I believe the Final Four is in San Antonio

[UNC41]

Was Hansborough recruited by Roy at KU maybe?

I believe the Final Four is in San Antonio

San Antonio is correct. I don't know if Hansbrough was a Kansas lean before Roy went to UNC, but I am 99.9% sure he never committed to the Jayhawks. I'm guessing Dustin said that because Tyler is from Missouri, which you can almost consider in-state recruiting for Kansas, because who wants to play for Missouri.

[SoRight24]

San Antonio is correct. I don't know if Hansbrough was a Kansas lean before Roy went to UNC, but I am 99.9% sure he never committed to the Jayhawks. I'm guessing Dustin said that because Tyler is from Missouri, which you can almost consider in-state recruiting for Kansas, because who wants to play for Missouri.

Tyler was more of a Kentucky lean than he was for Kansas.

[UNC41]

Tyler was more of a Kentucky lean than he was for Kansas.

I had no idea and was just throwing the possibility out there. I cannot imagine him playing anywhere else though.

Did you see Kendall's blog they have on IC? Should be interesting over the next couple years.

[SoRight24]

I had no idea and was just throwing the possibility out there. I cannot imagine him playing anywhere else though.

Did you see Kendall's blog they have on IC? Should be interesting over the next couple years.

I just read it a few minutes ago.

He seems like a great person as well as player.

And I already loved Marcus Ginyard, but after reading that blog, I love him even more. He is an awesome human being. :thumbsup

[UNC41]

I just read it a few minutes ago.

He seems like a great person as well as player.

And I already loved Marcus Ginyard, but after reading that blog, I love him even more. He is an awesome human being. :thumbsup

Marcus is the man. Such a great person. Give me a guy like him over Tyreke Evans any day of the week. Here's a great article on him.

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020507aab.html

[GavMan33]

San Antonio is correct. I don't know if Hansbrough was a Kansas lean before Roy went to UNC, but I am 99.9% sure he never committed to the Jayhawks. I'm guessing Dustin said that because Tyler is from Missouri, which you can almost consider in-state recruiting for Kansas, because who wants to play for Missouri.

I just read it a few minutes ago.

He seems like a great person as well as player.

And I already loved Marcus Ginyard, but after reading that blog, I love him even more. He is an awesome human being. :thumbsup

Marcus is the man. Such a great person. Give me a guy like him over Tyreke Evans any day of the week. Here's a great article on him.

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020507aab.html

You mean you didn't like Quinn Snyder!?!? :lol

Man, I would be a great fit for Roy Williams at UNC, due to the type of character he is