Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[UNC41]

Yeah Wilson, Charlotte was supposed to be a HUGE pickup for the Atlantic 10 after the major conference shifting took them from CUSA. But it just never happened. They were supposed to be awesome in 2006 with Curtis Withers, their first in the A-10; but their nonconference was dreadful that year, and it just continued downhill. But you're right, the year before the switch, they were ranked at one point, and a NCAA team. Go figure.....

:lol :thumbsup Well done Bryan. Way to state the obvious. And how ugly are these UConn jerseys? Man they are disturbing....

If Beasley wouldn't have de-committed from Charlotte he would have absolutely run over the A-10 this year.

I'm actually a fan of Price. The guy overcame a brain hemorrhage. That's amazing. That, and I absolutely loved watching Marcus Williams in college too.

Huskies are looking fantastic. For a #3 v. unranked game, I don't really see a clear winner.

I could definitely go either way, but Dorsey's foul trouble is huge and could turn out to be the difference.

[GavMan33]

If Beasley wouldn't have de-committed from Charlotte he would have absolutely run over the A-10 this year.

I'm actually a fan of Price. The guy overcame a brain hemorrhage. That's amazing. That, and I absolutely loved watching Marcus Williams in college too.



I could definitely go either way, but Dorsey's foul trouble is huge and could turn out to be the difference.

I don't care what he did off the court (well I do, but for the purpose of this post, I don't), on the court, he was an animal. SO good. Shocking in so many ways how they lost in the Elite Eight....

[justinandimcool]

Again with the inconsistency from Memphis AND Connecticut. Although it seems obvious Memphis' potential is 1000 miles ahead of UConn's. Very pesky, very athletic, very unselfish. I just wish they could hit more shots.

[justinandimcool]

CDR though, that guy can shoot.

[UNC41]

I don't care what he did off the court (well I do, but for the purpose of this post, I don't), on the court, he was an animal. SO good. Shocking in so many ways how they lost in the Elite Eight....

So much fuss was made about North Carolina being a team full of talented individuals and not a great team in '05, but that was exactly the case the next year with UConn and it was hardly mentioned. Oh, and that fuss in '05 was a bunch of garbage.

[justinandimcool]

Did you see that Kevin Durant buzzer beater? :lol Man that was great.

[GavMan33]

So much fuss was made about North Carolina being a team full of talented individuals and not a great team in '05, but that was exactly the case the next year with UConn and it was hardly mentioned. Oh, and that fuss in '05 was a bunch of garbage.

:lol Cmon baby, no one even provoked you and you're gettin steamed :lol

[GavMan33]

Just was readin the Orlando Magic thread. I got two things, then I gotta go sleep....

Justin, I can't believe you just said you liked watching Reddick. Ouch :violent :hug

And speaking of a team similar to the 06 UConn team, how about that 99 Duke team that didn't win it all? Wow that team was fantastic. And yeah, I'm the douchebag that said Elton Brand couldn't make it in the NBA :rolleyes :BANG

[willthethrill]

This Memphis/UConn game is great. Once again, Memphis looked absolutely fantastic during stretches and average during others. Derrick Rose is getting all the pub, but if Dorsey is the key to their success. Price has looked great. I bet he's excited to go check his stats on a brand new laptop after the game.

ZING!

Well done Bryan.

That was a very entertaining game to watch. CDR is sick. G'night guys.

[GavMan33]

Well, I didn't go to NYC this weekend. So I'm taking the opportunity to go downtown to see the 20th-ranked Stanford Cardinal play Siena. I'm hopeful the tree will be there :lol

[thestand]

We're at Portland tonight. I really like our chances to go undefeated in non-conference play again. Our only real challenge is Kansas State.

[UNLTrpt]

We're at Portland tonight. I really like our chances to go undefeated in non-conference play again. Our only real challenge is Kansas State.

:( :(

We suck.

[SmoothG]

We're at Portland tonight. I really like our chances to go undefeated in non-conference play again. Our only real challenge is Kansas State.


In my opinion, that is kind of tragic. Undefeated against a bunch of no ones. What was your non conference schedule? Wooo!

Although Michael Beasly is nasty!

[UNLTrpt]

we're a no one

:lorraine

[thestand]

In my opinion, that is kind of tragic. Undefeated against a bunch of no ones. What was your non conference schedule? Wooo!

Although Michael Beasly is nasty!We haven't been a premier school, so the chance to play good teams are few and far between. Last year was-

Lehigh
Cal State Northridge
Portland State
UC Irvine
Rice
Georgetown
Nebraska
Bethune-Cookman
Eastern Washington
Idaho State
Mercer
Portland

Georgetown was #18 when we beat them. But other than that, cakewalk. This year-

Pepperdine
Pacific
Western Michigan
Portland
Saint Mary's
San Fransisco
Kansas State
Utah
Sacremento State
Nebraska
Oakland
Mt. St. Mary's

[GavMan33]

#20 Stanford goes down at Siena....

[thestand]

DAMN IT! Why did I not go! Gah. My bad college sports week continues.

[thestand]

And I watched one Stanford game online this year, and they looked good, so to me, this speaks volumes about Siena.

[GavMan33]

And I watched one Stanford game online this year, and they looked good, so to me, this speaks volumes about Siena.

Good squad, they play my preferred method. They RUN! They shoot a lot of threes. They spread the floor; they didn't run a whole lot of halfcourt sets until late in the game when they had a lead and were runnin the shot clock down a bit. They do make mistakes and play sloppy at times, but that's expected of a team that plays the way they do. Stanford went up 7 at one point early in the 2nd half, and could have pulled away. But Siena fought back, and their biggest lead was 14 toward the end of the game. Siena did the same against Syracuse the other night; they are able to withstand a run, and come back from it. You can look for some good things from them. St. Joseph's will be in Albany to play Siena a few days after Christmas. That should be a good test for them. And they play at Memphis, and ESPNU game. I suggest you at least take a look at them, might pay off in March ;)

[SoRight24]

We get Iona tomorrow night at the Smith Center.

We should be able to control that game from start to finish, Iona is pretty bad.

I really want to see a solid performance from our guys, especially tuning up for the Las Vegas tournament with a possible matchup with Louisville looming.

[justinandimcool]

Holy shit Arizona's gonna be great come tournament time.



Mayo and Hackett combine for 51 points. I'm impressed.

[willthethrill]

We get Iona tomorrow night at the Smith Center.

We should be able to control that game from start to finish, Iona is pretty bad.

I really want to see a solid performance from our guys, especially tuning up for the Las Vegas tournament with a possible matchup with Louisville looming.

Most certainly. Unfortunately I didn't get tickets because of the inane ticket policy implemented last year. Oh well, I have a lot of work to get done anyway.

UNC must win by 25 tomorrow for me to be assured.

[willthethrill]

Mayo and Hackett combine for 51 points. I'm impressed.

Meh. Sounds like a phlegm sandwich. :cool

(I know, I know, original.)

[justinandimcool]

Meh. Sounds like a phlegm sandwich. :cool

(I know, I know, original.)


:lol :lol :lol

That was fucking great.

[thestand]

Malik Hairston is going to have an amazing year. Guy's lowest scoring game so far is 17 points. 24 tonight.

[justinandimcool]

Oregon State lost at home to Alaska Fairbanks :lol :lol :lol :lol

[thestand]

I have a feeling the Civil War games won't exactly be heated this year, then. :lol

[justinandimcool]

These Virginia kids are lights out from outside. I wonder why they're picked to finish so low. Not enough inside presence, but the guard play is stellar, and the defense is solid.

[justinandimcool]

Bayless, Buddinger, Hill are monsters.

[justinandimcool]

These two teams need to recruit some designated inbounders, though. What a terrible sequence.

[thestand]

Bayliss is retarded. :lol

[justinandimcool]

Speaking of retarded, my high school's special ed team could've come up with something better than that last possession. Wow. Pac-10 takes another huge hit.

[thestand]

Terrible.

[justinandimcool]

Terrible.


They played a great game, but Arizona's youth was all over that last play. 3 bad plays based on impulse. The low percentage layup, the much too quick putback, and the panicked 3 point attempt that happened to be 3 feet inside the 3 point arc.

Bad, bad, bad play. Props to UVA, great shooters. Arizona gave this one away though.

[seekupig]

Arizona gave this one away though.

they'd better get over this before their trip to Lawrence next weekend.... :)

[willthethrill]

UVa's not bad. Singletary is real nasty. Nothing down low, as you said, though.

[chiznaz]

NAME GMS MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
Michael Beasley 2 30.0 31.0 19.0 3.5 5.0 1/1.4 1.5 2.0 4.0 .615 .667 .400 1.59



Michael Beasly..... best player in college ball right now? Very well could be.

30pt/19reb avg (even though it's only two games) is pretty damn good starting out the season.

[justinandimcool]

Will you be playing fantasy with us Chaz?

[chiznaz]

Afraid not, although it sounds like it's going to be awesome. I really don't have the time. I'll be gone on an internship in the spring and traveling as a result. Work's also going to keep from most all BigXII games A&M is playing at home save Kansas and a few others.

[justinandimcool]

:( :( :(

I wanted to kick your ass though. I hope you get to squeeze in a roster to play for the whole year, it'll be really fun! But yeah I understand, work. Bleh.

[chiznaz]

If you wanted to see an ass kicking, just follow Mayo around. I'm sure he'll run into another teammate at some point:P

[justinandimcool]

That my friend is true. He only managed to take 20 shots tonight though. But if he can make half of those, which he did, I'll take it. Hackett was solid as well. As long as they're effectively unselfish.

[UNC41]

NAME GMS MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
Michael Beasley 2 30.0 31.0 19.0 3.5 5.0 1/1.4 1.5 2.0 4.0 .615 .667 .400 1.59



Michael Beasly..... best player in college ball right now? Very well could be.

30pt/19reb avg (even though it's only two games) is pretty damn good starting out the season.

Not to mention 28 points and 22 boards last night. Wow ...

[willthethrill]

Not to mention 28 points and 22 boards last night. Wow ...

First pick?

[SoRight24]

First pick?

I say Mayo will still go 1st.

But Beasley is definitely looking like the #2 pick....

[GavMan33]

I say Mayo will still go 1st.

But Beasley is definitely looking like the #2 pick....

I want that psycho guy from Chapel Hill ;)

[MPizzle06]

Ahhh....basketball in Hawaii...and GOOD basketball in Hawaii at that

MONDAY - All games on ESPN2 - All times ET

Chaminade vs #10 Marquette, 2:30p
LSU vs Oklahoma St., 5pm
Princeton vs. #13 Duke, 9pm
Arizona St. vs Illinois, 11:30pm

[GavMan33]

Ahhh....basketball in Hawaii...and GOOD basketball in Hawaii at that

MONDAY - All games on ESPN2 - All times ET

Chaminade vs #10 Marquette, 2:30p
LSU vs Oklahoma St., 5pm
Princeton vs. #13 Duke, 9pm
Arizona St. vs Illinois, 11:30pm

GREAT tournament. I think we should take the time to reflect of the time (maybe like 1982ish?) that Chaminade beat a highly ranked Ralph Sampson-led Virginia squad. Amen.

EDIT: College Basketball ALL day. I think it's safe to say there will be no work done on Monday.

[chiznaz]

Mayo should not go first..... Beasley is the better player as far as stats are concerned.

[GavMan33]

Mayo should not go first..... Beasley is the better player as far as stats are concerned.

When is the lottery and how is it being done?

[SoRight24]

I thought we were talking about the NBA draft?

That's why I said Mayo will go first.

[chiznaz]

I thought we were talking about the NBA draft?

That's why I said Mayo will go first.


Ahhh I see. I was talking about the fantasy game.

[willthethrill]

Ahhh I see. I was talking about the fantasy game.

Hah, me too. I thought Travis's response was a little weird.

[willthethrill]

These threes are getting me hot.

[Mustang1]

Ahhh....basketball in Hawaii...and GOOD basketball in Hawaii at that

MONDAY - All games on ESPN2 - All times ET

Chaminade vs #10 Marquette, 2:30p
LSU vs Oklahoma St., 5pm
Princeton vs. #13 Duke, 9pm
Arizona St. vs Illinois, 11:30pm

That's a solid tournament. Is everyone playing 3 games?

[SoRight24]

Now THIS is Carolina basketball baby!

WOW what a dunk by THanny!

[clayj41]

Good to see such UNC dominance...Psycho T had a hell of a game!

[willthethrill]

Now THIS is Carolina basketball baby!

WOW what a dunk by THanny!

Yea, that was sick nasty.

Much improved effort from Thompson and continued great three point shooting. I like what I see.

[SoRight24]

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

State loses at home to the University of New Orleans.

Gotta watch out for those Privateers! :lol :lol

[MPizzle06]

That's a solid tournament. Is everyone playing 3 games?

Yes. If a team loses it's first two, it plays the other team that lost it's first two in the 7th/8th place game.

The Maui & the whole season couldn't come at a better time! (Da Bears suck & still 6ish weeks until New Year's Day and the next Illini football game)

[MPizzle06]

http://www.mauiinvitational.com/bracket/

[Darksideofoz]

UNC played like a UNC team should tonight. I'm really looking forward to Louisville.

That was an awesome ending in the New Orleans game

[UNC41]

Wow. Just wow.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wtPU9vhJ2_4

And The Pack only have three more losses this year, right Gavin ...

[justinandimcool]

Great week for Miami. Solid guy in the middle in King, and they've got a great backcourt in Dews and McClinton. Definitely a threat.

Providence ain't too shabby either.

[jsilvia2]

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

State loses at home to the University of New Orleans.

Gotta watch out for those Privateers! :lol :lol
Oh boy, i knew this was coming:(

Should i have just admitted being a Pack fan?

[willthethrill]

Wow. Just wow.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wtPU9vhJ2_4

And The Pack only have three more losses this year, right Gavin ...

Haha, a post on IC mentioned that maybe he meant in the 2007 calendar year...

It's a full-fledged meltdown on packpride.com right now.

[willthethrill]

Oh boy, i knew this was coming:(

Should i have just admitted being a Pack fan?

You're not the only one on this board, but there isn't much State representation in here. You're welcome as long as you don't mind a few Heels. ;)

[seekupig]

Haha, a post on IC mentioned that maybe he meant in the 2007 calendar year...

It's a full-fledged meltdown on packpride.com right now.

i just spent the last hour talking my friend down from a window ledge. luckily he lives in a one story house, so he was never in any real danger....but the last thing you want to do to a wolfpacker after a humiliating loss is insult their education at the same time.... so i let him go on for a bit....

[mizzoudmbfan]

A guy that posts on Tigerboard just got this in a Youtube PM.

Your chance to help a guy out

Dear dbooker34,

My name is Thomas Akers and I'm from Boston. I'm an agent for players that are furthering their basketball days in European Leagues. I've been in this business for more than 20 years and have gotten to represent some great players. One of my clients is a player that you have a video of in your list of videos. His name is Christian Moody and your video shows him missing free throws against the Missouri Tigers. I made this screen name today to ask you a favor that would really help Christian in his future. Many team owners and coaches look up players on the internet and this video obviously is a deterent to what coaches see in Christian. Can you please remove this video, even if only for a period of five months, while we try to place Christian in another European Program. I thank you for your time and concideration. Also I will be sending a similar message to one other similar video on youtube. Please reply to this message when you have read it.

Thomas Akers

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0klol9ahw) is the link to the video. IF this is legit, I feel slightly sorry for the guy, but the "agent" claims he has been in the business for 20 years yet a google search for Thomas Akers returns nothing. I just thought it was funny this is the way the agent decided to approach it.

On a side note gotta love the "I took my headset off and I can't remember ever being in a louder building", haven't heard those kind of remarks very often in Mizzou Arena's tenure.:lol

[willthethrill]

i just spent the last hour talking my friend down from a window ledge. luckily he lives in a one story house, so he was never in any real danger....but the last thing you want to do to a wolfpacker after a humiliating loss is insult their education at the same time.... so i let him go on for a bit....
Why would you want to insult their education? :D

Ah, the wolfpack. They are a rare breed. To think I actually considered going to engineering school there. :twak

[UNC41]

I've forgotten about the poll. We'll resume next week after the long weekend. My bad, guys.

[willthethrill]

On a side note gotta love the "I took my headset off and I can't remember ever being in a louder building", haven't heard those kind of remarks very often in Mizzou Arena's tenure.:lol

Damn, Quin Snyder. I forgot about that Moody kid. That game was ridiculous.

[mizzoudmbfan]

Damn, Quin Snyder.


Effin' dookies, no?

;)

[SoRight24]

Quin Snyder just has the look of a sleezy guy.

Typical dookie.

[GavMan33]

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

State loses at home to the University of New Orleans.

Gotta watch out for those Privateers! :lol :lol

Great week for Miami. Solid guy in the middle in King, and they've got a great backcourt in Dews and McClinton. Definitely a threat.

Providence ain't too shabby either.

The Curse of Appalachian State continues....

McClinton is a former Siena guy....

[willthethrill]

The Curse of Appalachian State continues....

McClinton is a former Siena guy....

So we learned that Siena and Iona are big time rivals tonight, no? The commentators said something about it. I'll take Siena this year.

[GavMan33]

So we learned that Siena and Iona are big time rivals tonight, no? The commentators said something about it. I'll take Siena this year.

In the past, they have been big rivals. Members of the MAAC. Iona is located in New Rochelle, NY, which is about 500 feet from the New York City border. Siena is generally a good ballclub, and Iona was always a very good team in the conference, until recently. Actually, several years ago, if my mind is serving me correct, Iona played Syracuse very tough in a 1st round NCAA game. What I'm failing to see exactly is how a win against a BAD Iona team is getting you psyched to play U of L :rolleyes

PS-Question. When Siena upset Stanford on Saturday afternoon, the student rushed the court. What do you think? Acceptable? Not? What's the word?

[thestand]

A MAAC team rushing the court when they upset a ranked PAC10 team? Sure, it's acceptable. We (Oregon) rushed the court when we beat #1 UCLA, a team we play twice a year every year, and we were ranked at the time. :lol

[thestand]

I should condition that answer by pointing out that we're on the field for nearly every football game win, and most PAC-10 basketball wins. Yeah, we're "that" school.

[seekupig]

it seems it's time to repost this article by Pat Forde on ESPN a few years back about appropriate "court rushing." :lol


After watching all these giddy group gropes, it's high time to publish the Forde Minutes Court-Storming Protocol Guide. Students are advised to read the following rules and to act accordingly the next time their team agitates them to the edge of hoops ecstasy:
• The Old Money Principle (2): Look up at the ceiling of your gym and count the banners. If your school has won three or more national titles in its history, you shall not rush the floor at any time. Schools affected: UCLA (11 titles), Kentucky (seven), Indiana (five), North Carolina (four), Duke (three).
Your program has won big games before. Act like it.
The Old Money Principle clearly puts the Indiana student body in violation of The Forde Minutes' protocol. Especially when the vanquished team, Illinois, owns zero national titles of its own. How terribly tacky.
The Illini did not even qualify for a Minutes Protocol Exception (3), which states that if your august basketball program has hit the skids to a dispiriting degree (Indiana has missed the last two NCAA Tournaments), a storming is allowable under certain conditions:
Condition A (4): The opponent is ranked No. 1 and/or undefeated at least halfway through the season (14 or more games). Illinois was merely ranked fifth in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and already had a loss on the season.
Condition B (5): Your august program defeats a top-five team on a suitably miraculous shot (25 feet or farther) at the buzzer, spurring spontaneous joy that overrides better impulses. (The Indiana-Illinois game went down to the wire, but it wasn't won at the buzzer on a prayer.)
Condition C (6): You are so intoxicated that you cannot remember the opponent's ranking, or how many titles your school has won. But be forewarned that The Minutes will not pay your bail if you're the lone trespasser on the court and wind up in cuffs.
Condition D (7): You see college hoops fan Ashley Judd (8) sitting at the other end of the court, and you know that the shortest distance to her is a straight line.
• The Upper-Middle Class Principle (8): If your school has won multiple national titles, you are generally discouraged from storming the court unless you have defeated one of the above blue bloods, and only at the last second. Schools affected: Kansas, Louisville, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Michigan State, Connecticut, North Carolina State.
However, stormings are allowable under the following conditions:
Ancient History Exception (9): If your national titles predate Texas Western's, you are free to storm the court for any dramatic win over a top-five team. Schools affected: Oklahoma State, San Francisco, Cincinnati.
Semi-Ancient History Exception (10): If your national titles predate the 3-point shot, you are free to storm the court for any dramatic win over a No. 1-ranked team. Schools affected: Louisville and North Carolina State; Kansas and Michigan State halfway (one title before the three, one after).
Current power Connecticut (two titles in the last seven years) is discouraged from rushing the court under any but the most extraordinary circumstances, such as beating the No. 1 team on an eyes-closed, left-handed hook shot from half court.
• The Middle Class Principle (11): If your program plays in a major conference, has some basketball heritage and takes itself fairly seriously, court stormings should be reserved for: upsetting a top five team; knocking off an unbeaten league rival of particular dislike; ending a period of extreme and elongated futility against an arch rival; clinching a conference championship.
Under this principle, Iowa is hereby indicted for its floor rush Tuesday night after beating No. 11 Indiana. (In fact, it's flatly inexcusable on any level, other than the boredom that January in Iowa City can precipitate.) Michigan is granted clemency under the elongated-futility-against-an-arch-rival clause. Georgetown, St. John's and Tennessee were all cleared for liftoff last Saturday.
(Although The Minutes fully understands the Rocky Top rush, the SEC did not. It fined the Volunteers $5,000 for failing to keep the students off the floor, a violation of the league's sportsmanship policy. The Minutes fails to see the clear and present danger. This isn't football, where the fans mount heavy metal objects and send them crashing down upon the mob below. First time they tear down a basket stanchion, a fine will be in order. Not until then.)
• The Lower Class Principle (12): If your team plays in a mid-major or low-major league and manages to coax (or trick) a BCS-conference school into visiting and you win the game, a storming is allowed. Exceptions: Memphis, Gonzaga or any other school whose program is demonstrably larger than its conference profile. Also: beating a certifiably horrible BCS-conference school (Baylor, Arizona State, Purdue, South Florida or anyone with an RPI worse than 150) is not worth the effort.
The Bottom Feeder Principle (13): If you're North Dakota State, still on the D-I taxi squad, and you shock Wisconsin? Go crazy. Even if it's a road game. Break into the home gym and storm that sucker.
• The Morehead State Principle (14): The Eagles are 0-15 against NCAA competition. Any 8-0 run is justifiable incentive to rush the floor.

[GavMan33]

:lol :thumbsup I've been looking all over for that story. Good get Dustin.

Under these rules, the court-rushing vs. Standford over the weekend was in fact sanctioned, via the Lower Class Principle. If a low-major is able to coax a BCS team to your home court, and you win, go nuts. But, as the story says, a Ariz. St. or Purdue or Baylor, etc., is not worthy.

I would like to add that I was in a court-rush once. The Atlantic 10 Tournament was in Cincinnati in 2006. We finished the season only 8-8 in the A-10 (17-10 overall), and were a #10-seed in the A-10 Tourney. If you all remember, that was the year GW was 16-0 in the A-10; but Temple did the whole conference a favor and beat them in the Quarters, opening up a second bid. Well we beat St. Joe's 62-61, winning our 4th game in 4 days (for the 2nd time in 3 years), to take the tourney. That was followed by a massive court-rush. Good times.

If I haven't said it before, let me say it now. I LOVE College Basketball season, and I'm so glad it's here!

:bounce :bounce :bounce

[GavMan33]

I'm double-posting, for the simple fact that I want a brand new post :lol Figure I'll give out a little recent Xavier history; not that anyone asked for it, but I don't care. Read it anyway :lol

In 2004, you all know Xavier went to the Elite Eight, and if not for a few phantom fouls against the dominant player in the game, Xavier Forward Anthony Myles, we would have been in the Final Four. I digress.

What people don't know is that we started that season 10-9. In that stretch, we lost to teams like Ball State, an Indiana team that finished 14-15, an Iowa State team that finished 16-12, Duquesne, and a George Washington team that did not make a postseason tournament. That run was capped off by a 3-game losing streak, where we lost to Richmond, GW, and Dayton. The next game was the Crosstown Shootout, as it's known in Cincinnati, against a Bearcats team that was ranked 10th in the country, at home. Well we won that game, the difference-maker coming with a 17-footer by Lionel Chalmers, and we won the game 73-71. That started a string where we won 16 of our final 18 games. Finishing 10-6 in the conference, we had to play 4 games again, the conference tournament 50 minutes to the north in Dayton, Ohio. Well we banged up on St. Bonaventure by 26 in the first round game, setting up a date with #1 St. Joseph's the next night. Well we absolutely obliterated them, at one point leading 74-37. The next night, we played Dayton, in their home gym. They say that it was a fantastic win, to beat Dayton on their home floor to win the conference tournament. And again, we rushed the floor on their court.

During that 16-2 run, we beat 10th ranked Cincinnati, an NCAA-tournament bound Richmond team, A-10 regular season champ Dayton twice, a #1 St. Joseph's team, a Rick Pitino-led Louisville team, 8th-ranked (and second-seeded) Mississippi State, and 12th-ranked (and 3rd-seeded) Texas, before falling to #6 (and #1 seed in the South Region) Duke. Xavier put Lionel Chalmers as the A-10 Tournament MVP, with Romain Sato and Anthony Myles joining him on the All-Tournament team. All three were on the All-Sub regional team after the First/Second Round games in Orlando, Florida. And all three were on the All-Regional Team after the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 games in Atlanta, Georgia. As the story goes, some students made the trip to Orlando. When X made the Sweet 16, most of campus had emptied out to make the 6 and a half-hour drive to Atlanta. And by the time the date with Duke was made final, campus completely emptied out, everybody jumped in their cars, and drove to Atlanta for a chance to see Xavier advance to the Final Four.

In that Elite 8 game, the pregame stat sheet came to our radio announcers, it read Duke Blue Devils, and the Xavier Mountaineers :rolleyes

We led most of the game, by as many as 9 points in the second half, before giving it up with 3 minutes to go. JJ Redick hit two daggers on defensive breakdowns from long distance late, and they couldn't be overcome. As I said, Xavier Forward Anthony Myles was the game's best player, scoring 16 points in just 23 minutes. He took his fourth foul on a phantom call with 12 minutes to go, and his fifth foul just 6 seconds later on another questionable call, battling Shelden Williams.

Although we lost the game, it was great to be there, and as I said after we lost to Ohio State last season, we believe we are not far from the Final Four. It'll happen, and soon.

I know this is like the 200th time I've posted something like this, but oh well. In case you haven't figured it out yet, I like to rant :lol

[willthethrill]

UNC should never rush the court. Unless it involves a national championship. We've done too much for court rushing to happen. The only instance I can think of would be a down year for UNC versus a #1 ranked dook team (what are the chances of those two things ever happening again?) If UNC mounted a furious comeback in the last 5 minutes after being down by 15, 20 and then won it on a last-second shot, I could see rushing the court. But it would have to be DRAMATIC.

[GavMan33]

UNC should never rush the court. Unless it involves a national championship. We've done too much for court rushing to happen. The only instance I can think of would be a down year for UNC versus a #1 ranked dook team (what are the chances of those two things ever happening again?) If UNC mounted a furious comeback in the last 5 minutes after being down by 15, 20 and then won it on a last-second shot, I could see rushing the court. But it would have to be DRAMATIC.

Wilson, is that just speculation? Or did that happen recently?

[UNC41]

Bob, the '03 Xavier team was the one with West, Sato and Chalmers, correct? I really liked that team. Sato was my favorite of the trio, such a defensive beast.

[willthethrill]

Wilson, is that just speculation? Or did that happen recently?

Just speculation. I have no idea really, just trying to use experience to create a theory. I think we might have rushed if we had beat dook in '06 at home, with the freshmen versus JJ and Shelden, #1 ranked. That place was ready.

[justinandimcool]

Wow, UCLA is helpless against the full-court press.

[darbini]

Wow, UCLA is helpless against the full-court press.

You didn't notice that the last two years when they played Florida?

[willthethrill]

Wow, UCLA is helpless against the full-court press.

Damn I'm jealous. Once again, stuck at work.

[GavMan33]

Bob, the '03 Xavier team was the one with West, Sato and Chalmers, correct? I really liked that team. Sato was my favorite of the trio, such a defensive beast.

Yes, the 2003 team had Senior National Player of the Year, Juniors Sato and Chalmers. They won a school record 16 games in a row, earning a 3-seed in the NCAAs. Unfortunately, we got stuck in the same sub-regional with defending national champ Maryland, and we never gave ourselves a chance in that 2nd round game. And yes, Sato was a defensive stud :thumbsup

And I feel compelled, as our resident A-10 boy, to point out that the Atlantic 10 produced two straight National Players of the Year; the first being West in 2003, and then Jameer Nelson of St. Joe's in 2004. And now they are both NBA studs ;)

[willthethrill]

Yes, the 2003 team had Senior National Player of the Year, Juniors Sato and Chalmers. They won a school record 16 games in a row, earning a 3-seed in the NCAAs. Unfortunately, we got stuck in the same sub-regional with defending national champ Maryland, and we never gave ourselves a chance in that 2nd round game. And yes, Sato was a defensive stud :thumbsup

And I feel compelled, as our resident A-10 boy, to point out that the Atlantic 10 produced two straight National Players of the Year; the first being West in 2003, and then Jameer Nelson of St. Joe's in 2004. And now they are both NBA studs ;)

West is making $10 mil a year and dropped 40 on Friday night. I'll say.

[GavMan33]

If you missed Missouri vs. Michigan State tonight, you missed a goodie. That Mizzou team impressed me....

[UNC41]

Missouri looked good, but I'm still not buying Michigan St. as a title contender.

Here's a little something sweet. Ronald Curry to Julius Peppers. Welcome to the, err, NFL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5sQOExoQK8

[unccrombie]

If you missed Missouri vs. Michigan State tonight, you missed a goodie. That Mizzou team impressed me....
espn u is the espn insider of tv

[GavMan33]

espn u is the espn insider of tv

:thumbsup :thumbsup I'm tellin you, Time Warner just picked it up here. It's SWEET. Gonna get to see like twice the hoop games you normally do. So psyched :hump

[justinandimcool]

If you missed Missouri vs. Michigan State tonight, you missed a goodie. That Mizzou team impressed me....

I saw like 2 minutes of bonus coverage :shrug

[unccrombie]

:thumbsup :thumbsup I'm tellin you, Time Warner just picked it up here. It's SWEET. Gonna get to see like twice the hoop games you normally do. So psyched :hump
we dont have it in syracuse...with time warner digital. we just got the espn hd's a couple months ago for free

[GavMan33]

I saw like 2 minutes of bonus coverage :shrug

Might wanna keep Mizzou on your radar this season, I sure will be....

:lol So Dayton has a massive banner at UD Arena, of the 2003 Maui Invitational Championship. Douchebags :lol

[GavMan33]

we dont have it in syracuse...with time warner digital. we just got the espn hd's a couple months ago for free

Still workin on gettin the HD capable TV. At some point, maybe for Christmas? :rolleyes

[unccrombie]

Still workin on gettin the HD capable TV. At some point, maybe for Christmas? :rolleyes
i've had mine like 5 years, best thing ever. though many games arent in HD, unless its the primetime games. football always is though which is cool

[willthethrill]

i've had mine like 5 years, best thing ever. though many games arent in HD, unless its the primetime games. football always is though which is cool

Careful how you use the F word around Bob.

[unccrombie]

Careful how you use the F word around Bob.
:lol

[GavMan33]

Careful how you use the F word around Bob.

Wilson, I got nothing against football, I really love watching the NFL. I'm a Bills fan. And yes, I wasted 4 hours of my life Sunday night, I watched the entire thing. That's called patience gentlemen. College Football I follow casually, especially when I moved to Ohio and everybody breathes college football. I just can't handle the BCS system. It's the worst idea, really in the history of the world. I don't know who thought that would be a good idea, but whoever it was is not a bright individual

[unccrombie]

Wilson, I got nothing against football, I really love watching the NFL. I'm a Bills fan. And yes, I wasted 4 hours of my life Sunday night, I watched the entire thing. That's called patience gentlemen. College Football I follow casually, especially when I moved to Ohio and everybody breathes college football. I just can't handle the BCS system. It's the worst idea, really in the history of the world. I don't know who thought that would be a good idea, but whoever it was is not a bright individual
college football as a whole >>>>>>> nfl

[MPizzle06]

Some great games coming up on Tuesday:

#2 UCLA vs #11 Michigan State
#12 Marquette vs Oklahoma State
#10 Duke vs Illinois

good stuff

[GavMan33]

college football as a whole >>>>>>> nfl

Some great games coming up on Tuesday:

#2 UCLA vs #11 Michigan State
#12 Marquette vs Oklahoma State
#10 Duke vs Illinois

good stuff

Sorry John, just can't get into it, because it leads to a dead end. In the NFL, we're playing toward the playoffs. In college football, we're waiting to see who's gonna get screwed. I really think if Oregon hadn't lost last weekend and won out with LSU, an undefeated Kansas team would not have been in the BCS Championship. But John, I'm also not a college football junkie, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, because I'm really not much of a know-it-all on the subject....

Those games are tasty....

[mizzoudmbfan]

sigh...just got back from watching the game. thought we were going to pull it out there at the end. While I am not one for claiming any sort of moral victory, this game, and the tenacity we showed this evening gives me hope for the future. At the same time our shot selection and foul trouble leaves quite a bit to be desired.

[unccrombie]

Sorry John, just can't get into it, because it leads to a dead end. In the NFL, we're playing toward the playoffs. In college football, we're waiting to see who's gonna get screwed. I really think if Oregon hadn't lost last weekend and won out with LSU, an undefeated Kansas team would not have been in the BCS Championship. But John, I'm also not a college football junkie, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, because I'm really not much of a know-it-all on the subject....

Those games are tasty....
oh, same for me, i just find them more exciting. i also agree the bcs is a load of shit

[UNC41]

Trav,

Is there anything on IC Premium saying UNC still in the hunt for Tyreke Evans? This guy on an espn.com chat keeps saying they are. Also, if you could tell me who is the Top 25 wing from the '08 class Roy is still going after?

[SoRight24]

Trav,

Is there anything on IC Premium saying UNC still in the hunt for Tyreke Evans? This guy on an espn.com chat keeps saying they are. Also, if you could tell me who is the Top 25 wing from the '08 class Roy is still going after?

There are no indications that UNC is going to get involved with him.

Tyreke's past is haunting him when it comes to UNC, he seems to be a bit troubled, and we all know Roy stays away from guys like that.

For example, Andray Blatche, Vernon Macklin, Chris Paul etc.... all who professed a love for UNC and wanted to go there.

Same way with Tyreke, I just don't see UNC getting involved.

[SoRight24]

And the wing guy is Scotty Hopson, who committed to Mississippi State back in the spring, but has recently opened his recruitment back up.

Almost all of the elite schools are going to be after him hard.

[UNC41]

I'd go nuts if UNC got Hopson. That's what I thought about Tyreke. I've read about his relationship with Worldwide Wes and how his brothers are handing the recruiting process. From what I'm aware of UNC would have been a lock had they offered some time ago, but Roy didn't want him.

[darbini]

Gators are now ranked, and I care!

[UNLTrpt]

espn u is the espn insider of tv

espn insider = cockblock of sports internet
espnu = cockblock of sports TV.

[unccrombie]

espn insider = cockblock of sports internet
espnu = cockblock of sports TV.
that was my thought process



i can not wait for this msu/ucla game. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[thestand]

Maryland/Mizzou on ESPNU right now. Should be a good one.

[thestand]

Also, Oregon game tonight at 10 ET on ESPNU.

[SoRight24]

Final, Carolina- 110 - SC State - 54.

That was a tough one. :lol

[justinandimcool]

^ Check the Tennessee score and tell me about an easy one :lol

[SoRight24]

^ Check the Tennessee score and tell me about an easy one :lol

Damn, nice.

We've been outdone. :lol

I love Chris Lofton, he is a stud. :thumbsup

The Heels forced 30 turnovers. :eek

[thestand]

Anybody see the douches behind the commentators at the Oregon game?

Also, Kamyron Brown is starting. I really wanted to see him, so I'm glad.

[UNC41]

Brendan, we're going to run a fantasy college basketball draft on AIM in a few and have had some guys not show. Any interest at all?

And I don't get ESPN U, so no Oregon game for me. Weak sauce.

[cruscott35]

UCLA/MSU should be a good game, too bad Neitzel might not play.

[unccrombie]

UCLA/MSU should be a good game, too bad Neitzel might not play.
theres no way he isnt playing. i think he'll get about 20 min

[thestand]

This is the sloppiest I've seen this team play in a long, long time. Probably since the USC game last year.

[cruscott35]

theres no way he isnt playing. i think he'll get about 20 min


A guy from my other board said he's pretty sick, and they don't expect much out of him at all, FWIW.

[thestand]

The only good things so far is they're trying to play at our tempo, and there's no chance they can keep up with us the entire game.

[unccrombie]

A guy from my other board said he's pretty sick, and they don't expect much out of him at all, FWIW.
they dont know his heart. like i said, he's in

[thestand]

If we're down by more than 7 at the half, Bryce Taylor will play. Bank on it.

[cruscott35]

they dont know his heart. like i said, he's in


Diehard MSU fans, surely they know his heart.

[thestand]

I hate St. Mary's court. If the ball is more than 5 feet off the ground, you can't even see it. You don't see the shot once it leave the players hands, until it falls.

[cruscott35]

That Kevin Love kid is pretty money.

[unccrombie]

I hate St. Mary's court. If the ball is more than 5 feet off the ground, you can't even see it. You don't see the shot once it leave the players hands, until it falls.
sucks for you guys :lol

[SoRight24]

That Kevin Love kid is pretty money.

He's pretty fat too.

Dude needs to hit the weightroom, and then he'd be unstoppable.

[thestand]

Ugh. Worst game I've seen this squad play since a few mid-season games last year.

But to anyone playing the fantasy league- Patrick Mills. Get him. Holy shit.

FG FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA PTS OFF DEF TOT AST TO STL BLK PF
10 20 9 10 4 13 33 1 3 4 0 0 0 0 1

[unccrombie]

lucas is blowing the game for msu

[thestand]

So that's what a court rush feels like when you're on the losing side.

Not a fan.

[SoRight24]

Wow, Nietzel is nasty!

Even with the stomach virus he is hitting clutch shots!

[willthethrill]

Wow, Nietzel is nasty!

Even with the stomach virus he is hitting clutch shots!

On my fantasy! He's the white Mike.

[UNC41]

I know Neitzel has got ice in his veins, but that was a horrid offensive possession coming out of a timeout.

[cruscott35]

Less than a minute to go, I don't like the feeling I've got as a MSU fan.

[cruscott35]

I know Neitzel has got ice in his veins, but that was a horrid offensive possession coming out of a timeout.


Agreed.

[thestand]

So if this score holds, both #1's win, both #11's lose. :lol

[unccrombie]

I know Neitzel has got ice in his veins, but that was a horrid offensive possession coming out of a timeout.
no one was moving

[willthethrill]

What. a. shot.

[SoRight24]

I can't believe Michigan State is gonna blow this shit....

[unccrombie]

2 shitty plays out of a time out. unacceptable

[justinandimcool]

Fuck UCLA. Fuck UCLA. Fuck, man. :BANG

[UNC41]

no one was moving

It looks like the plan was to get Neitzel the ball and then just run an iso. If so, Izzo blew it. If not, the team blew it on those last two possessions.

[unccrombie]

I can't believe Michigan State is gonna blow this shit....
i blame lucas and his inability to play point for like 10 min

[SoRight24]

Mata-Real is the ugliest guy in college basketball.

He looks like such a douche.

[unccrombie]

Mata-Real is the ugliest guy in college basketball.

He looks like such a douche.
noah was worse. on a side note love's sister is bangin

[thestand]

Mata-Real is the ugliest guy in college basketball.

He looks like such a douche.I hated him more than Joakim Noah last year. Burning passion.

[SoRight24]

noah was worse. on a side note love's sister is bangin

I agree.

But Noah is gone now.

[SoRight24]

I hope we play UCLA in the tournament.

I would love nothing more than to run those bastards into the ground.

Kevin Love meet Tyler Hansbrough.

[unccrombie]

I agree.

But Noah is gone now.
i still cant get his ugly mug out of my head

[unccrombie]

I hope we play UCLA in the tournament.

I would love nothing more than to run those bastards into the ground.

Kevin Love meet Tyler Hansbrough.
we'd pull a gerald henderson on their face

[SoRight24]

i still cant get his ugly mug out of my head

And that stupid fucking dance he did last year.

I wanted to smack him.

[justinandimcool]

I hope we play UCLA in the tournament.

I would love nothing more than to run those bastards into the ground.

Kevin Love meet Tyler Hansbrough.

Please do. That Westbrook kid looks like a fucking douchebag. His classless street gang hairstyle, trying to throw the ball off someone's leg on the inbound with 1 second left. I hate him. I hate Mata too. God, damn MSU, coulda came up with a better shot than that :BANG

[SoRight24]

I hated him more than Joakim Noah last year. Burning passion.

Yeah, I hated him at the first sight of his face last year.

It's amazing just how looks can make me hate someone, even a guy. :lol

He just looks like a douche, and seems to act like one as well.

[thestand]

Yeah, I hated him at the first sight of his face last year.

It's amazing just how looks can make me hate someone, even a guy. :lol

He just looks like a douche, and seems to act like one as well.It's the 8" beak he's got. Everytime he comes on the court they should get a penalty for too many on the floor.

[UNLTrpt]

woohoo!

Nebraska gets the win tonight 83-48 over Norfolk State!

That's right fans! Nebraska is 3-0!

[willthethrill]

Well, to get things back to a more positive note, the game was great tonight at the Dean Dome. The first half went especially well as SC State had no answer for the talent on the floor. Two alleys: Ty to Tyler and couple monster jams by Danny Green. Played pretty good defense and Alex Stepheson showed off some offensive skills to go with his already beastly rebounding.

Tyler drew a foul almost every time he touched the ball, leading to 26 points. There were multiple times he could have gone up for an easy layup or dunk, and instead waited over a second for somebody to foul him during the shot. Dude is absolutely insane.

Looking forward to the Vegas games.

[SoRight24]

Well, to get things back to a more positive note, the game was great tonight at the Dean Dome. The first half went especially well as SC State had no answer for the talent on the floor. Two alleys: Ty to Tyler and couple monster jams by Danny Green. Played pretty good defense and Alex Stepheson showed off some offensive skills to go with his already beastly rebounding.

Tyler drew a foul almost every time he touched the ball, leading to 26 points. There were multiple times he could have gone up for an easy layup or dunk, and instead waited over a second for somebody to foul him during the shot. Dude is absolutely insane.

Looking forward to the Vegas games.

Yeah, I listened to the first half on the radio, that was all i could take.

I hate listening on the radio.

I actually had tickets 5 rows up, center court but couldn't make it tonight, so I gave them to my brother and his friends.

[UNC41]

I hope we play UCLA in the tournament.

I would love nothing more than to run those bastards into the ground.

Kevin Love meet Tyler Hansbrough.

It would be a good game. The starting lineups are pretty even, but I'd give North Carolina the edge with Danny Green coming off the bench.

[willthethrill]

It would be a good game. The starting lineups are pretty even, but I'd give North Carolina the edge with Danny Green coming off the bench.

Especially with the way Wayne has been playing.

[SoRight24]

It would be a good game. The starting lineups are pretty even, but I'd give North Carolina the edge with Danny Green coming off the bench.

I agree, I just hope we could control the tempo.

UCLA plays that slow down, half court game. If we could push the ball up the court, we beat them by 10 plus....

[bothedmbfan]

If you can't, they beat you by 8...

[seekupig]

I hope we play UCLA in the tournament.

I would love nothing more than to run those bastards into the ground.

Kevin Love meet Tyler Hansbrough.

just hope you're a lower seed than they are. for whatever reason, the selection people like to make the #1 seed go out to California to play the #2 seed UCLA. i guess they don't believe in rewarding the #1 seed for the season they had...... :BANG

[RJ2kWJ]

we'd pull a gerald henderson on their face

That dunk was real nice.

[GavMan33]

just hope you're a lower seed than they are. for whatever reason, the selection people like to make the #1 seed go out to California to play the #2 seed UCLA. i guess they don't believe in rewarding the #1 seed for the season they had...... :BANG

And I just wish that referees would man up, and make the right calls at the end of games. Even if it is against the all-holy Greg Oden. Make the right call :BANG

[seekupig]

And I just wish that referees would man up, and make the right calls at the end of games. Even if it is against the all-holy Greg Oden. Make the right call :BANG


that game pissed my off as well (not as much as you, though.... :lol ). i was sitting at the bar with one of my buddies, he had Ohio St. in the Final Four, i had Xavier beating them in the second round. needless to say, i was not a happy camper. i thought if was common knowledge that if a player ends up in the third row of cameramen behind the basket that there was probably a foul somewhere in the play.... i guess not. :BANG

[unccrombie]

That dunk was real nice.
you guys got a tough one tonight. everytime i see marquette it looks like they all took 5 grams of speed

[dreamingtreeIU]

you guys got a tough one tonight. everytime i see marquette it looks like they all took 5 grams of speed

they do

[thestand]

Few good games already today. LSU/ASU was great.

[MPizzle06]

Few good games already today. LSU/ASU was great.

:thumbsup That was a great game

Marquette/Duke should be entertaining later

[unccrombie]

Few good games already today. LSU/ASU was great.
possible upset in the works too between wash and the aggies

[thestand]

possible upset in the works too between wash and the aggies
Very surprised by this. I don't pay much attention to polls, especially preseason, but Washington is ranked 8th in the PAC10. But to be fair, ASU was ranked 9th, and they did fine.

[PhildoMurph #41]

Very surprised by this. I don't pay much attention to polls, especially preseason, but Washington is ranked 8th in the PAC10. But to be fair, ASU was ranked 9th, and they did fine.U-Dub is a talented bunch and Brockman is a stud. The Pac-10 is stacked this year though, thus the pick at 8th. 6 or 7 teams could make it to the dance in the Pac 10 this year don't be shocked if the Dawgs are one of them. :monkey

[willthethrill]

Wow, Greg Paulus couldn't guard a dead stick. This is the highest of comedy with Dominic James breaking his ankles every time down court.

[unccrombie]

Wow, Greg Paulus couldn't guard a dead stick. This is the highest of comedy with Dominic James breaking his ankles every time down court.
he's too slow. even in HS

[unccrombie]

duke looked very solid tonight. GP had a solid game along with singler and nelson. marquette is going to be a force. they remind me a lot of the 4 guard nova team with better speed and defense. SU shat another brick once they faced some competition...honestly what the hell. got flat out, out played

[SoRight24]

God I hate watching Duke play.

Watching K yell at the refs every time a call goes against the dookies is just sickening.

[RJ2kWJ]

duke looked very solid tonight. GP had a solid game along with singler and nelson. marquette is going to be a force. they remind me a lot of the 4 guard nova team with better speed and defense. SU shat another brick once they faced some competition...honestly what the hell. got flat out, out played

Is that the same 4 guard Villanova team that was cheated out of a call a few years ago? Wink Wink. Thanks for the compliment though. First one I have seen out of these boards in a while. I will add, UNC should be the solid #1. UCLA doesnt show what UNC does. AT ALL.

No other school has won more than two championships in the 24 years of this event.

[RJ2kWJ]

duke looked very solid tonight. GP had a solid game along with singler and nelson. marquette is going to be a force. they remind me a lot of the 4 guard nova team with better speed and defense. SU shat another brick once they faced some competition...honestly what the hell. got flat out, out played

Is that the same 4 guard Villanova team that was cheated out of a call a few years ago? Wink Wink. Thanks for the compliment though. First one I have seen out of these boards in a while. I will add, UNC should be the solid #1. UCLA doesnt show what UNC does. AT ALL.

God I hate watching Duke play.

Watching K yell at the refs every time a call goes against the dookies is just sickening.

Seriously... Shut the hell up. Dont represent the UNC nation like that. While it is a great rivalry, you are making yourself look like an idiot with this statement. I LOVE watching a talented team like UNC play. You should be able to say the same about Duke becuase they play like a much DEEPER and a much more TALENTED team than last year... But you are REALLY making yourself look like an idiot talking about a coach that is representing your country and is currently juggling between two programs. K is bringing the USA B-Ball team back to where it should be... As in not losing to teams like Garbagewecanbarelyplaybasketballistan.

Lets see Roy do anything like that. :lol

Here is to the BlueDevils winning the tourney.

"No other school has won more than two championships in the 24 years of this event."




EDIT: Why did half of my reply, post twice??? Probably the alcohol. :lol

[JamesM]

Villanova shall jump to 3-0 after a defeat over UCF today.

[unccrombie]

stubhub legends classic = barf. honestly, i wish this corporation would tank

[thestand]

Ohio State just got manhandled. Nice. :lol

[Mustang1]

Ohio State just got manhandled. Nice. :lol

A&M can play some defense.

[unccrombie]

ODU is playing real well vs UNC tonight...

[GavMan33]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving, and watched some fantastic basketball over the last several days. Looks like we have to watch out for the CAA again this season. How about that George Mason team? VCU? Oh buddy....

[GavMan33]

This, gentlemen, is what we call a statement game.

Xavier 80, Indiana 65

:thumbsup

[dreamingtreeIU]

yea yea

[thestand]

Today has been a great day in basketball. Great win, Bob.

And it wouldn't be a post by me without mentioning something PAC10 related, and this is the most ridiculous headline I've ever read-

Washington St. holds MVSU to nine points in second half

I mean, are you kidding me? Wow.

[thestand]

And the UNC/BYU game is hella entertaining.

[unccrombie]

And the UNC/BYU game is hella entertaining.
just turned it on...is unc playing bad or is byu playing well?

[thestand]

just turned it on...is unc playing bad or is byu playing well?UNC isn't playing terrible, but not really A-game. BYU is firing on all cylinders, though.

[unccrombie]

UNC isn't playing terrible, but not really A-game. BYU is firing on all cylinders, though.
gotcha, i heard lawson got hurt in the 2nd minute. could mean a loss for us

[thestand]

Oregon made sure everyone knew the St. Mary's loss was a fluke. 110-79 win over San Fransisco. 10 players had floor time, and only three were in single digits scoring.

[unccrombie]

Oregon made sure everyone knew the St. Mary's loss was a fluke. 110-79 win over San Fransisco. 10 players had floor time, and only three were in single digits scoring.
:thumbsup St. Mary's is always scrapy however. at least you got your clunker out of the way

[GavMan33]

Well, Vitale wants us all to know that he is rooting for Carolina to win this game. I can't stand listening to him, but it's something else exactly how much he's on Carolina right now.

BYU is just relying so much on the 3, and it's not going down. It's too bad, but this BYU squad, again, remember who they are.....

And Vitale knows that Duke is a lot better than people thought they would be. Grrrr :violent

[thestand]

God, I somehow always forget how much I despise Vitale until basketball season comes back. And then I hear more than 30 seconds of him, and I remember.

[unccrombie]

Well, Vitale wants us all to know that he is rooting for Carolina to win this game. I can't stand listening to him, but it's something else exactly how much he's on Carolina right now.

BYU is just relying so much on the 3, and it's not going down. It's too bad, but this BYU squad, again, remember who they are.....

And Vitale knows that Duke is a lot better than people thought they would be. Grrrr :violent
:lol if i could kill one human being...

[unccrombie]

God, I somehow always forget how much I despise Vitale until basketball season comes back. And then I hear more than 30 seconds of him, and I remember.
dickie: edge ucla/memphis...but carolina theyre gonna go all the way baby!!

[thestand]

He has said Xavier a handful of times tonight though, Bob. :lol

[GavMan33]

God, I somehow always forget how much I despise Vitale until basketball season comes back. And then I hear more than 30 seconds of him, and I remember.

After Ellington's dagger 25-footer:

"Oh, and if Ellington had his little buddy Lawson with him, he'd be getting shots like this all night."

I'm to bed. Goodnight all....

[GavMan33]

He has said Xavier a handful of times tonight though, Bob. :lol

I heard that, but the Xavier Backcourt was not on the screen with the UCLAs and Memphis's of the world. Don't they know Xavier is far and away the #1 team in the country, and quite possibly in the history of college basketball! :rolleyes :lol

A couple years ago, we had an ESPN game, George Washington @ Xavier. Vitale wasn't scheduled to do the game, but he ended up being there. A couple of our players got his autograph before the game. Also before the game started, Vitale went over and conducted our band. Everybody loved him. I bet if you were watching the game, you'd think differently :lol

[unccrombie]

I heard that, but the Xavier Backcourt was not on the screen with the UCLAs and Memphis's of the world. Don't they know Xavier is far and away the #1 team in the country, and quite possibly in the history of college basketball! :rolleyes :lol

A couple years ago, we had an ESPN game, George Washington @ Xavier. Vitale wasn't scheduled to do the game, but he ended up being there. A couple of our players got his autograph before the game. Also before the game started, Vitale went over and conducted our band. Everybody loved him. I bet if you were watching the game, you'd think differently :lol
there was your chance to kill him...a tuba falling from the top row could be a legit accident

[thestand]

there was your chance to kill him...a tuba falling from the top row could be a legit accidentBut I'm sure he'd even make dying annoying. The tuba would hit him in the head, he'd backstep a little bit, yell, "It's ovah, baby!" obnoxiously loud, and then collapse.

[dreamingtreeIU]

xavier is underrated.....ive watched them semi-religiously for the past 4 or 5 yearsm that being said i wanted iu to win tonite

[unccrombie]

xavier is underrated.....ive watched them semi-religiously for the past 4 or 5 yearsm that being said i wanted iu to win tonite
xavier always has an under the radar team, theyre always my pick come tourney time to do some damage

[unccrombie]

But I'm sure he'd even make dying annoying. The tuba would hit him in the head, he'd backstep a little bit, yell, "It's ovah, baby!" obnoxiously loud, and then collapse.
im ok with one final "baby" as long as he's 6 feet undah-baby!

[dreamingtreeIU]

my freshman yr of college we always had convos in dick vitale language

[DMBCubs25]

xavier is underrated.....ive watched them semi-religiously for the past 4 or 5 yearsm that being said i wanted iu to win tonite

xavier is always a dangerous team come tournament time, seems like they always either pull off the first round upset and possibly a bigger 2nd round upset, or they lose the first round game but make a hell of a game out of it

[willthethrill]

This, gentlemen, is what we call a statement game.

Xavier 80, Indiana 65

:thumbsup

Congrats Bob. I thought of this thread when I saw that score. :thumbsup

UNC looks like the only way they'll be beaten is if the opponent shoots lights out from 3 the entire game. BYU came close but when they started missing, they went down.

[GavMan33]

Congrats Bob. I thought of this thread when I saw that score. :thumbsup

UNC looks like the only way they'll be beaten is if the opponent shoots lights out from 3 the entire game. BYU came close but when they started missing, they went down.

I was only able to see the final 5 or so minutes of the game, by that point BYU had gone completely cold, but continued to fire horrible 3-point shots. Is that how they played all game? Do they rely on the 3? I'm surprised they didn't go inside to Plastaid (sp?) more. Anyway, I didn't see much of it. What does their offense look like?

[SmoothD41]

nice win for Xavier, they just dominated IU.

That was an embarrassing game for IU, i really don't think they could have played any worse. DJ is the only guy that showed up. I'm just glad it wasn't on national tv.

They need to establish some sort of identity.

[darbini]

Vitale sat behind me on an airplane once, was quiet as a mouse

[GavMan33]

nice win for Xavier, they just dominated IU.

That was an embarrassing game for IU, i really don't think they could have played any worse. DJ is the only guy that showed up. I'm just glad it wasn't on national tv.

They need to establish some sort of identity.

Vitale sat behind me on an airplane once, was quiet as a mouse

Smooth, it was a very unsettling first 6 or 7 minutes of the second half for me. IU came out denying Lavender any touches; I don't know who it was in deny on him, but he did a fantastic job, forcing the other 4 guys into handling the ball. Not sure why they didn't stick with it. I think the dagger for IU was the And 1 Josh Duncan got on that layup.

That's really funny about Vitale. I guess he didn't know anyone on the flight :lol

Here's an interesting number. We know in 2004 (Xavier's Elite Eight season) that they beat #1 St. Joe's in the A-10 Tourney, a #8 Mississippi St. team in the NCAAs, and also #12 Texas in the Sweet 16. But the win yesterday against #8 Indiana was the first regular season win over a Top 10 team not named Cincinnati since the 1988-89 season, when Xavier upset #4 Louisville. Of course, Xavier beat two #1-ranked Cincinnati teams in the regular season, in 1996-97, and again in 1999-2000. Xavier also beat #10 Cincinnati in the 2003-2004 season.

Now here's where it gets dicey. We have 4 straight games at home coming up, but here's who it is. Oakland, who lost to #11 Michigan St. last night by a mere 4 points (and if I remember right, I think they were an NCAA team last year). After that is Belmont, and we're all aware of the pesky Atlantic Sun conference this season. Then it's Creighton, who we've lost to 3 years in a row, and is always a tough squad, always in the NCAAs. And then the Crosstown Shootout, against Cincinnati.

As I mentioned above, both Xavier teams to beat the #1 Cincy teams were unranked. On the other side of the token, Cincinnati has beaten far superior Xavier teams. In David West's Junior season of 2001-2002, they beat us by 20 points, when we were the superior team. And the disgusting game of last season, when Cincinnati was horrible, and they beat us by 10. What I'm trying to say is when it's Xavier vs. Cincinnati, you throw the records out. It's for city bragging rights. I'm not kidding, the city of Cincinnati basically shuts down the week of the Crosstown Shootout. I believe this is the closest proximity rivalry in college basketball, the two schools a mere 3.4 miles from each other.

So those 4 games I mentioned will not be cakewalks. And don't forget, after those 4, we still play @ Arizona St., Tennessee, Kansas St., Virginia, and @ Auburn. And then of course the grind of the conference season.

So the win yesterday is nice, but there's so much more out there for us to accomplish. So we have to get our nose back to the grindstone, and get ready for Oakland on Wednesday :thumbsup

[JamesM]

Villanova for Old Spice Classic champions. Beat NC State!

[willthethrill]

I was only able to see the final 5 or so minutes of the game, by that point BYU had gone completely cold, but continued to fire horrible 3-point shots. Is that how they played all game? Do they rely on the 3? I'm surprised they didn't go inside to Plastaid (sp?) more. Anyway, I didn't see much of it. What does their offense look like?

They shot their fair share of 3s all game. The bald guy Tavernari couldn't miss for a while. In the second half they got the ball to Plaisted and he abused Deon Thompson. Thankfully Roy put Stephenson in on him and he cooled off, but he was still a force.

Their offense seemed to revolve around the 3 in the first and Plaisted in the second. Overall I can't really give you much more than that. I was half asleep with a splitting headache.

[unccrombie]

They shot their fair share of 3s all game. The bald guy Tavernari couldn't miss for a while. In the second half they got the ball to Plaisted and he abused Deon Thompson. Thankfully Roy put Stephenson in on him and he cooled off, but he was still a force.

Their offense seemed to revolve around the 3 in the first and Plaisted in the second. Overall I can't really give you much more than that. I was half asleep with a splitting headache.
tavernari had like 3 sequences where he'd shoot a 3, miss, theyd get the rebound, and he'd shoot again. truely poor shot selection. one of the reasons they lost the game. on a side note, i've missed bobby frasor

[MPizzle06]

LMAO at Indiana last night :lol :lol :bounce

[GavMan33]

LMAO at Indiana last night :lol :lol :bounce

Buddy whoa, relax kid. IU played a legit squad, for sure....

[willthethrill]

Buddy whoa, relax kid. IU played a legit squad, for sure....

Who? Some eggs team?

[41ravens]

zona hanging tough with kansas. i like it.

[JamesM]

The NC State win over Villanova was a fluke. The foul call at the end was complete B.S.

[dreamingtreeIU]

eh he shouldnt have just reached in, got what he deserved

[JamesM]

That Kansas shot was amazingly missed

[SoRight24]

That Kansas shot was amazingly missed

Holy shit that was insane, that thing did everything but go in.

When it was in mid-air, I was like holy shit that could go down, it looked perfect.

[GavMan33]

Who? Some eggs team?

I tell you what man. I wasn't gonna gloat when I beat your ass in fantasy this week. But because of that comment, it's on ;)

[justinandimcool]

That Kansas/Arizona game was epic. Way too many unforced turnovers on Arizona's end. But they look really solid hanging in there for 40 minutes. Budinger is awesome. That shot at the end of regulation had me crying. Wow I wish that went in.

The NC State/Villanova ending was a thrill too. Not sure about the call, I thought it was good. :shrug

[JamesM]

Who won Arizona/Kansas? My sister found the need to come down here and watch Everybody Loves Raymond.

[SoRight24]

Who won Arizona/Kansas? My sister found the need to come down here and watch Everybody Loves Raymond.

That is unacceptable.

But KU won it.

[JamesM]

That is unacceptable.

But KU won it. That last shot in regulation should of counted atleast one point.

[SoRight24]

That last shot in regulation should of counted atleast one point.

I agree, and even though I hate KU, that would have been awesome if it had went in.

[JamesM]

I agree, and even though I hate KU, that would have been awesome if it had went in. That Arizona guy is gonna see that open lane he had on film and kill himself.

[justinandimcool]

The Arizona big guys (Breilmaier, Walters, Horne) were a pain to watch. Don't recall them making a good play, just getting called for the same foul over and over. They couldn't adjust defensively, and were offensively invisible. Bayless made some amazing plays, but you could argue he lost the game for Arizona. Just too many awful decisions, unforced turnovers, bad shots, etc.

[SoRight24]

The Arizona big guys (Breilmaier, Walters, Horne) were a pain to watch. Don't recall them making a good play, just getting called for the same foul over and over. They couldn't adjust defensively, and were offensively invisible. Bayless made some amazing plays, but you could argue he lost the game for Arizona. Just too many awful decisions, unforced turnovers, bad shots, etc.

In short, it's called being a freshman.

No matter how polished they are, they will still make mistakes. :thumbsup

[justinandimcool]

This Rhodes guy on Mississippi State is killin. Too bad the rest of the team isn't :shrug

[GavMan33]

Let's get Miami a victory here.....

[justinandimcool]

Wow, these guys are one of the SEC frontrunners?

I haven't seen Miss St. play since the beginning of time, so am I supposed to be surprised with this loss?

[justinandimcool]

In short, it's called being a freshman.

No matter how polished they are, they will still make mistakes. :thumbsup

Touche.

[JamesM]

I can't wait until December 6th for LSU at Villanova.

[SoRight24]

Touche.

But true. ;)

[SoRight24]

I can't wait until December 6th for LSU at Villanova.

If Les Miles is coaching, I like Nova's chances.

[JamesM]

If Les Miles is coaching, I like Nova's chances. He'd make them shoot the three if they were down by one

[GavMan33]

Good stuff. The more wins Miami gets, it makes the loss @ Miami hurt less.

Oh yes. I hate the SEC. Not just one team. I hate the whole conference :violent :violent

[SoRight24]

He'd make them shoot the three if they were down by one

I have to get down to Auburn for a football game sometime.

They are my favorite SEC team, I always pull for them. Unless they are playing UNC which is rare.

[JamesM]

I have to get down to Auburn for a football game sometime.

They are my favorite SEC team, I always pull for them. Unless they are playing UNC which is rare. If I remember right we played UNC in a bowl game a couple of years ago....