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Joe M.
12-16-2003, 01:18 PM
Post comments regarding the 12-20-03 Blue Cross Arena. Rochester, NY show here.

12-20-03 Blue Cross Arena. Rochester, NY

Garrett Bastable (AT853) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.at853.txt)
Scott Berner (MK4v) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.mk4v.txt)
Greg Mendelsohn (MK4) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.mk4.txt)
Eric Naylor (AKG481) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.akg481.txt)
George Sisak (AKG481 -> UA5) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.akg481.ua5.txt)
Mike Vernal (KM140) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.km140.txt)
Ian White (MKH 800) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMaF/dm+f2003-12-20.mkh800.txt)

Vote on your favorite source for this show (http://www.antsmarching.org/tour/favsource.php?ShowID=3372)

Fooltothink55
12-21-2003, 07:13 PM
Dave Matthews and Friends
Blue Cross Arena: Rochester, Ny
December 20, 2003

Source: Schoeps MK4Vs->KCY actives->Schoeps VMS5U->Sony SBM-1->Sony PCM-M1
Location: 3rd row aisle, left stack, 17+' high

Conversion: Sony M1->SGI Octane coax->SGI Sound Editor-> NFS mount(linux)->shn


Disc One:

Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds

01 intro 2:14.74
02 #41 6:40.02
03 Where Are You Going 5:12.74
04 Typical Situation 7:39.15
05 Cry Freedom 6:18.20
06 Dancing Nancies 8:32.08

Dave Matthews and Friends

07 Intro -> 3:17.59
08 Trouble 8:23.05
09 Dodo 9:43.41
10 intro to... 1:38.45
11 Stay or Leave 5:25.71
12 Up And Away -> 7:17.17
13 Tell Me Something Good && 6:32.61


Disc Two:

01 intro 0:26.37
02 So Damn Lucky 5:33.57
03 Gravedigger -> 5:20.09
04 Grey Blue Eyes 4:45.12
05 Up On Cripple Creek @% 7:03.43
06 American Tune + 4:54.50
07 Oh 4:16.13
08 Oh Sister ^ 5:46.29
09 Too High -> 7:44.50
10 Fire %= 5:29.48
11 Some Devil ** 5:02.30
12 (Butterfly) 2:42.71


Disc Three:

01 Spanish Moon &% 7:46.41
02 Solsbury Hill # 5:45.59
03 Sweet Up and Down 6:04.56
04 Thank You ~ 8:34.71
05 encore break(DAT flip) 2:23.07
06 intro 1:13.48
07 Everyday -> *** 5:31.24
08 Bathtub Gin -> ***#% 3:41.20
09 Everyday *** 3:44.00
10 Fool In The Rain $$ 9:27.53


# Peter Gabriel cover
% Trey on lead vocals
~ Sly and The Family Stone cover
+ Paul Simon cover
^ with Emmylou Harris; Bob Dylan cover
$$ Led Zeppelin cover
** Dave solo
*** Dave and Trey
# Phish cover
@ The Band cover
& Little Feat cover
= Jimi Hendrix cover
&& Stevie Wonder cover

-----------

And just so you know this show is up at the Groove. :)

Mark
12-21-2003, 07:17 PM
god dammit. you beat me to it again :lol :lol

who is the taper? any idea?

edit: the poster at the groove was sberner. there is a taper with the name Berner, isn't there?

Fooltothink55
12-21-2003, 07:18 PM
god dammit. you beat me to it again :lol :lol

who is the taper? any idea?

:p Umm I'm not sure about the taper....thats all I saw at the Groove.

dmband_fan1
12-21-2003, 08:10 PM
god dammit. you beat me to it again :lol :lol

who is the taper? any idea?

edit: the poster at the groove was sberner. there is a taper with the name Berner, isn't there?


answering your "edit" question: scott berner..

Crazy_K
12-21-2003, 08:19 PM
Can someone give me pointer to The Groove? Would love to get this show!! Thanks in advance.

Dorfnut
12-21-2003, 11:56 PM
I'm sorry if this sounds like too much of a n00b issue, but I was at that show last night and it was simply incredible... I've been searching for any word of recordings all day. Could you tell me/us how to get to this "Groove" site/server, or if not could you tell us how we might be able to get the show? Thanks a lot.

-The Dorfnut

dwj21
12-22-2003, 12:25 AM
Taper: Ian White <ian.white@enterworks.com>
Location: Section 31, Row J, Seat 2
Source: Sennheiser MKH-800s @ ~ 16' > Lunatec V3 @ 24/48 >
VXPocket V2 > Sony Vaio PCG-SRX87 > n-Track 3.3
Conversion: Goldwave 5.06 > flac 1.1.0

** DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 OR OTHER LOSSY FORMAT **

Disc 1: 65:13
- [Set I - Dave & Tim]
01 Intro 02:20
02 #41 06:40
03 Where Are You Going 05:09
04 Typical Situation 07:42
05 Cry Freedom 06:18
06 Dancing Nancies 08:53
- [Set II - Dave & Friends]
07 Intro -> 02:59
08 Trouble 08:20
09 Dodo 09:44
10 Stay Or Leave 07:04

Disc 2: 65:10
01 Up And Away -> 07:16
02 Tell Me Something Good % 06:59
03 So Damn Lucky 05:33
04 Gravedigger -> 05:20
05 Grey Blue Eyes 04:44
06 Up On Cripple Creek !# 07:03
07 American Tune * 04:54
08 Oh 04:16
09 Oh, Sister \$ 05:43
10 Too High -> 07:47
11 Fire ^# 05:29

Disc 3: 62:33
01 Some Devil | 04:51
02 (Butterfly) -> 02:53
03 Spanish Moon ~# 07:48
04 Solsbury Hill + 05:45
05 Sweet Up And Down 06:04
06 Thank You = 13:06
-Encore-
07 Everyday (#36) -> || 05:25
08 Bathtub Gin (Everyday reprise) -> || 07:31
09 Fool In The Rain ++ 09:05

-> Indicates a segue into the next song
() Indicates a partial song or tease

% Stevie Wonder cover
! The Band cover
* Paul Simon cover
^ Jimi Hendrix cover
~ Little Feat cover
\ Bob Dylan cover
& Trey Anastasio with "Little Drummer Boy" interpolation
+ Peter Gabriel cover
= Sly And The Family Stone cover
++ Led Zeppelin cover
# Trey Anastasio on lead vocals
$ Emmylou Harris on vocals
| Dave solo
|| Dave and Trey


Compiled by Ian White 12-21-03

its being shared on DC and will be here by tomorrow

peace
darron

greppson
12-22-2003, 12:33 AM
its being shared on DC and will be here by tomorrow

peace
darron
what DC hub?

dwj21
12-22-2003, 02:27 AM
i'm on shnhaven, sharingthegroove, dmb sharing organization

greppson
12-22-2003, 02:28 AM
i didn't see you on the haven earlier, that's why i was asking.

dwj21
12-22-2003, 02:33 AM
iam definitely there and have been all day long, well for a few days long

Mark
12-22-2003, 07:53 AM
Taper: Ian White <ian.white@enterworks.com>
Location: Section 31, Row J, Seat 2
Source: Sennheiser MKH-800s @ ~ 16' > Lunatec V3 @ 24/48 >
VXPocket V2 > Sony Vaio PCG-SRX87 > n-Track 3.3
Conversion: Goldwave 5.06 > flac 1.1.0


is this 24 or 16 bit FLAC ?

dwj21
12-22-2003, 10:09 AM
is this 24 or 16 bit FLAC ?

he has both flac and shn

24 bit flac

16 bit shn

greppson
12-22-2003, 11:09 AM
well, i checked the shn haven for 12-20 and the only one there is scott berner's, and only 2 people have that.

i am in passive mode, but i should still be able to see you there and search for the files, but they aren't showing up at all.

seekup40
12-22-2003, 11:19 AM
correction on both sources:

Dave Matthews & Friends
Blue Cross Arena
Rochester, NY
December 20, 2003

Taper: Ian White <ian.white@enterworks.com>
Location: Section 31, Row J, Seat 2
Source: Sennheiser MKH-800s @ ~ 16' > Lunatec V3 @ 24/48 >
VXPocket V2 > Sony VAIO PCG-SRX87 > n-Track 3.3
Conversion: Goldwave 5.06 > flac 1.1.0

** DO NOT DITHER/DOWNSAMPLE TO 16/44.1
AND/OR CONVERT TO MP3 OR OTHER LOSSY FORMAT **

[Set I - Dave & Tim]
01 Intro 02:20
02 #41 06:40
03 Where Are You Going 05:09
04 Typical Situation 07:42
05 Cry Freedom 06:18
06 Dancing Nancies 08:53
[Set II - Dave & Friends]
07 Intro -> 02:59
08 Trouble 08:20
09 Dodo 09:44
10 Stay Or Leave 07:04
11 Up And Away & -> 07:16
12 Tell Me Something Good % 06:59
13 So Damn Lucky 05:33
14 Gravedigger -> 05:20
15 Grey Blue Eyes 04:44
16 Up On Cripple Creek !# 07:03
17 American Tune * 04:54
18 Oh 04:16
19 Oh, Sister \$ 05:43
20 Too High -> 07:47
21 Fire ^# 05:29
22 Some Devil | 04:51
23 (Butterfly) -> 02:53
24 Spanish Moon ~# 07:48
25 Solsbury Hill + 05:45
26 Sweet Up And Down 06:04
26 Thank You = 13:06
-Encore-
28 Everyday (#36) || -> 05:25
29 Bathtub Gin (Everyday reprise) || -> 07:31
30 Fool In The Rain ++ 09:05

-> Indicates a segue into the next song
() Indicates a partial song or tease

% Stevie Wonder cover
! The Band cover
* Paul Simon cover
^ Jimi Hendrix cover
~ Little Feat cover
\ Bob Dylan cover
& Trey Anastasio with "Little Drummer Boy" interpolation
+ Peter Gabriel cover
= Sly And The Family Stone cover
++ Led Zeppelin cover
# Trey Anastasio on lead vocals
$ Emmylou Harris on vocals
| Dave solo
|| Dave and Trey


Compiled by Ian White 12-21-03

__________________________________________________ ______

Dave Matthews & Friends
Blue Cross Arena
Rochester, NY
December 20, 2003

Taper: Ian White <ian.white@enterworks.com>
Location: Section 31, Row J, Seat 2
Source: Sennheiser MKH-800s @ ~ 16' > Lunatec V3 @ 24/48 >
VXPocket V2 > Sony VAIO PCG-SRX87 > n-Track 3.3
Conversion: Wavelab 4.01 > Goldwave 5.06 > mkwACT 0.97

** DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 OR OTHER LOSSY FORMAT **

Disc 1: 65:13
[Set I - Dave & Tim]
01 Intro 02:20
02 #41 06:40
03 Where Are You Going 05:09
04 Typical Situation 07:42
05 Cry Freedom 06:18
06 Dancing Nancies 08:53
[Set II - Dave & Friends]
07 Intro -> 02:59
08 Trouble 08:20
09 Dodo 09:44
10 Stay Or Leave 07:04

Disc 2: 65:10
01 Up And Away & -> 07:16
02 Tell Me Something Good % 06:59
03 So Damn Lucky 05:33
04 Gravedigger -> 05:20
05 Grey Blue Eyes 04:44
06 Up On Cripple Creek !# 07:03
07 American Tune * 04:54
08 Oh 04:16
09 Oh, Sister \$ 05:43
10 Too High -> 07:47
11 Fire ^# 05:29

Disc 3: 62:33
01 Some Devil | 04:51
02 (Butterfly) -> 02:53
03 Spanish Moon ~# 07:48
04 Solsbury Hill + 05:45
05 Sweet Up And Down 06:04
06 Thank You = 13:06
-Encore-
07 Everyday (#36) || -> 05:25
08 Bathtub Gin (Everyday reprise) || -> 07:31
09 Fool In The Rain ++ 09:05

-> Indicates a segue into the next song
() Indicates a partial song or tease

% Stevie Wonder cover
! The Band cover
* Paul Simon cover
^ Jimi Hendrix cover
~ Little Feat cover
\ Bob Dylan cover
& Trey Anastasio with "Little Drummer Boy" interpolation
+ Peter Gabriel cover
= Sly And The Family Stone cover
++ Led Zeppelin cover
# Trey Anastasio on lead vocals
$ Emmylou Harris on vocals
| Dave solo
|| Dave and Trey


Compiled by Ian White 12-21-03

seekup40
12-22-2003, 11:22 AM
i am also sharing on DC hubs: SHN haven, DMBShare, and SHNFamily

should be up on main server in a few hours.

auyer319
12-22-2003, 07:32 PM
This is a very noob question so please refrain from any harsh comments. I was at the Roch show and was blown away. I would like to have it, but was wondering where to get it from. Will it be up here soon? I am new to the trading game, so I am not sure where to go, or how to go about getting shows.

Fooltothink55
12-22-2003, 07:46 PM
http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28841

White's is up at the Groove. :)

tjc2418
12-22-2003, 08:28 PM
Any comments on White vs "Unknown" (sberner). I've got the first one (Unknown). Love it. I was about to burn a bunch of copies for friends. Is White better?

Thanks
Tom

djanks11
12-22-2003, 11:52 PM
Can someone help me and explain how you download from the groove.

Thanks in advance
Dan

XeroMav
12-23-2003, 01:07 AM
Go to www.sharingthegroove.org (http://www.sharingthegroove.org) and ask them. :)

alyson1
12-23-2003, 03:06 AM
Can someone help me and explain how you download from the groove.

Thanks in advance
Dan

Dan and the others asking for info, as you can well imagine this question comes up all the time.
Sharing the Groove will point you to this site to get lessons first. Sharing the Groove just has the links to the downloads but first you have to have the software to convert the files for CD.
http://research.umbc.edu/~hamilton/shnfaq.html

take your time reading through it, many have gone before you and got through it with no experience either.

XeroMav
12-23-2003, 03:57 AM
They'll also need to read up on FLAC, APE, BitTorrent, etc. too. Links and information are on the Groove's boards...somewhere.

Fooltothink55
12-23-2003, 01:01 PM
This recording is amazing :) :


Dave Matthews and Friends
December 20, 2003
Blue Cross Arena
Rochester, NY


Taper: Garrett Bastable <s.garrett.bastable@villanova.edu>
Source: AT853, A/B @ 18ft. > BattBox (SP-SPSB-3L) >
Oade Mod. Edirol UA-5 (A/D + pre-amp) > Sony TCD-D8
Location: Row 5 (far left isle seat), ~18ft. from left stack

Conversion: Garrett Bastable <s.garrett.bastable@villanova.edu>
DAT > SHN: Seagate CTD8000R-S (DAT2WAV v1.2) > Dell Dimension B1000r >
.wav > CD Wave v1.71 > .shn (mkwACT 0.97 BETA 1)


*** DO NOT ENCODE THIS SHOW INTO MP3 FORMAT ***

Track | Title | Time (m:s.f)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Disc -1-
d1t01: Intro > 02:06.70
d1t02: #41 06:42.12
d1t03: Where Are You Going 05:10.68
d1t04: Typical Situation 07:39.14
d1t05: Cry Freedom 06:18.14
d1t06: Dancing Nancies 08:53.07

Total: 36:50.35
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Disc -2-
d2t01: Trouble 11:20.22
d2t02: Dodo 09:44.16
d2t03: Intro to... 01:37.54
d2t04: Stay or Leave 05:26.42
d2t05: Up and Away > 07:15.34
d2t06: Tell Me Something Good ! 07:00.38
d2t07: So Damn Lucky 05:33.59
d2t08: Gravedigger > 05:20.10
d2t09: Grey Blue Eyes 04:45.09
d2t10: Up on Cripple Creek @ 07:03.48
d2t11: American Tune # 04:54.61
d2t12: Oh 04:17.41

Total: 74:19.59
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Disc -3-
d3t01: Oh Sister % 05:42.52
d3t02: Too High > 07:47.08
d3t03: Fire & 05:29.28
d3t04: Some Devil * 04:54.53
d3t05: (Butterfly) * 02:48.18
d3t06: Spanish Moon + 07:50.69
d3t07: Solsbury Hill = 05:45.61
d3t08: Sweet Up and Down 06:04.58
d3t09: Thank You ~ ^ 11:21.40
d3t10: E: Everyday $ > 05:25.03
d3t11: E: Bathtub Gin ( $ > 03:47.45
d3t12: E: Everyday $ 03:43.48
d3t13: E: Fool in the Rain [ 08:07.19

Total: 78:48.52
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Special Guests:
! - Stevie Wonder cover
@ - The Band cover, w/ Trey on lead vocals
# - Paul Simon cover
% - Bob Dylan cover, w/ Emmylou Harris on vocals
& - Jimi Hendrix cover, w/ Trey on lead vocals
* - Dave solo
+ - Little Feat cover, w/ Trey on lead vocals
= - Peter Gabriel cover
~ - Sly and The Family Stone cover
$ - Dave and Trey
( - Phish cover
] - Led Zeppelin cover

Notes:
- Disc #1: Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds
- Disc #2 + #3: Dave Matthews and Friends (Featuring: Trey Anastasio,
Brady Blade, Tony Hall, Ray Paczkowski, and Tim Reynolds)

^ - DAT tape changed right after Thank You; ~60 seconds of crowd noise
was lost during the flip; I used the Sound Forge 6.0 Graphic Fade
process to fade out of the main-set and into the encore
- The entire show was normalized to 0.00dB (100.00%, peak level)
using Sound Forge 6.0 Normalize process. This was done because I
had level trouble early on and did'nt want to adjust them during the
show; as a result, I simply needed to raise the entire show's volume.
- Special thanks to Jeff Pilcicki for the awsome tickets


Compiled by Garrett Bastable on 2003-12-22

mob420
12-23-2003, 01:40 PM
This was my 27th show, and it was definitely in the top 3! I have about 100 live dave shows, and would be willing to get you any of them for a copy of this show.....please reply!

Thanks-----

Dave Matthews and Friends
Blue Cross Arena: Rochester, Ny
December 20, 2003

Source: Schoeps MK4Vs->KCY actives->Schoeps VMS5U->Sony SBM-1->Sony PCM-M1
Location: 3rd row aisle, left stack, 17+' high

Conversion: Sony M1->SGI Octane coax->SGI Sound Editor-> NFS mount(linux)->shn


Disc One:

Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds

01 intro 2:14.74
02 #41 6:40.02
03 Where Are You Going 5:12.74
04 Typical Situation 7:39.15
05 Cry Freedom 6:18.20
06 Dancing Nancies 8:32.08

Dave Matthews and Friends

07 Intro -> 3:17.59
08 Trouble 8:23.05
09 Dodo 9:43.41
10 intro to... 1:38.45
11 Stay or Leave 5:25.71
12 Up And Away -> 7:17.17
13 Tell Me Something Good && 6:32.61


Disc Two:

01 intro 0:26.37
02 So Damn Lucky 5:33.57
03 Gravedigger -> 5:20.09
04 Grey Blue Eyes 4:45.12
05 Up On Cripple Creek @% 7:03.43
06 American Tune + 4:54.50
07 Oh 4:16.13
08 Oh Sister ^ 5:46.29
09 Too High -> 7:44.50
10 Fire %= 5:29.48
11 Some Devil ** 5:02.30
12 (Butterfly) 2:42.71


Disc Three:

01 Spanish Moon &% 7:46.41
02 Solsbury Hill # 5:45.59
03 Sweet Up and Down 6:04.56
04 Thank You ~ 8:34.71
05 encore break(DAT flip) 2:23.07
06 intro 1:13.48
07 Everyday -> *** 5:31.24
08 Bathtub Gin -> ***#% 3:41.20
09 Everyday *** 3:44.00
10 Fool In The Rain $$ 9:27.53


# Peter Gabriel cover
% Trey on lead vocals
~ Sly and The Family Stone cover
+ Paul Simon cover
^ with Emmylou Harris; Bob Dylan cover
$$ Led Zeppelin cover
** Dave solo
*** Dave and Trey
# Phish cover
@ The Band cover
& Little Feat cover
= Jimi Hendrix cover
&& Stevie Wonder cover

-----------

And just so you know this show is up at the Groove. :)

rhuss
12-23-2003, 02:04 PM
This was my 27th show, and it was definitely in the top 3! I have about 100 live dave shows, and would be willing to get you any of them for a copy of this show.....please reply!

Thanks-----
the show is up on sharingthegroove.org as a torrent and i am sure it will be up here at ants soon (if its not up already). if you are a newbie to downloading or trading please see the FAQ forum and read the faq's.

dm40band
12-31-2003, 03:39 PM
anyone have any ideas on whose is better?

Daveison123
01-06-2004, 08:19 PM
What Do I Do When I Am Done Downloadin???

Mark
01-06-2004, 08:27 PM
read the faq

greppson
01-06-2004, 08:40 PM
i compared fool in the rain for all but white's source and i like berner's the most. my personal pref though.:)

Mike
01-09-2004, 09:17 AM
i compared fool in the rain for all but white's source and i like berner's the most. my personal pref though.:)

Have you heard any of Naylor's yet? :bounce

greppson
01-09-2004, 09:20 AM
Have you heard any of Naylor's yet? :bounce
i thought i had... maybe not though!

Mike
01-09-2004, 12:54 PM
i thought i had... maybe not though!

I think he had just started spreading it, but actually now he is fixing up disc 3, he had a slight track problem. I took a listen to some of it an I thought the recording was amazing...look for it ( the fixed up version ) to be making its way around soon :)

Mike

greppson
01-09-2004, 01:04 PM
coolness, if you get it up on your ftp let me know, i'd love to grab it and compare to berner's.

greppson
01-17-2004, 11:03 PM
i do care for naylor's over berner's now... not sure why because they both sound very good.

jecohen
04-28-2004, 11:04 AM
Any idea when the server for the 2003 shows will be up again? Any other way for me to download this show?

rhuss
04-28-2004, 11:53 AM
Any idea when the server for the 2003 shows will be up again? Any other way for me to download this show?
you can download it from 1 of the ftp servers

Mark
04-28-2004, 11:57 AM
rhuss, where you been dude?

rhuss
04-28-2004, 12:53 PM
rhuss, where you been dude?
i've been around ... don't frequent the 'downloading' forum that much anymore since the tour hasn't started yet.

Rippy
04-28-2004, 02:35 PM
anyone have the dvd of this show??