Da Bears

[crashintonickdm]

and the rout begins, just like i said.

but hey, at least this will probably force a QB change that you fans all want.

[dmbhoosier21]

Damn. I don't care how "tough" or "weak" Grossman is mentally, having a whole stadium chant for another player has to affect him. Plus of course the incessant criticism can't be good either.

[jaking1185]

haha, Grossman just might be the worst starting quarterback of all time.

In other news, I think it's time for everyone to come to grips with the fact that Romo is the truth.

Not all-time, but lord help me he sucks so bad.

[SoRight24]

well its great to see the our Defense fucking sucks, and we all know that Rex sucks. So time to get a new team.

:lol :lol

I'm not laughing at the Bears losing, but that statement struck me as hilarious.

[Ev42]

tony romo is still overrated though


:rolleyes

i would love Romo on the bears

[Ev42]

and the rout begins, just like i said.

but hey, at least this will probably force a QB change that you fans all want.

yeah will take Romo of your hands

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Mcnabb would be nice to pick up.

[jaking1185]

Even Madden feels sorry for him, looking for something good to say about him.

[davehead86]

haha, Grossman just might be the worst starting quarterback of all time.

In other news, I think it's time for everyone to come to grips with the fact that Romo is the truth.


No one said he was a bad QB, only an idiot would make that statement. And he's not the worst QB of all time idiot.

and the rout begins, just like i said.

but hey, at least this will probably force a QB change that you fans all want.

They are all ESPN watching freaks that want a change. I want a fucking QB that can produce, after all the work Grossman did he still isnt producing, Griese SUCKS and so does Orton.

Not to mention that our recievers cant hold onto fucking anything.

[dmbhoosier21]

Romo does have skillz in "improvising" when under pressure. Guy is athletic and very accurate when throwing on the run.

[davehead86]

Even Madden feels sorry for him, looking for something good to say about him.

Madden is an idiot.

[davehead86]

What is this, NOW he starts to throw completions. WTF

[jaking1185]

They are all ESPN watching freaks that want a change. .

I think about 60,000 people in Soldier Field want a change too.

[Ev42]

I think about 60,000 people in Soldier Field want a change too.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Ev42]

Madden is an idiot.

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[crashintonickdm]

lol @ Rex Grossman. poor guy.

Tony Romo, hes priceless!!!! if you think hes overrated now, you're ignorant.

[davehead86]

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

Oh please, hes a fucking cow that feeds the same East Coast bias that ESPN does.

[davehead86]

I think about 60,000 people in Soldier Field want a change too.

:lol :lol True, me too. :lol :lol

[Ev42]

in my book Madden:thumbsup :thumbsup

[jaking1185]

Griese....Griese....Griese

It doesn't even have to be Brian. I think Bob Griese would even be an improvement.

[crashintonickdm]

Griese....Griese....Griese

It doesn't even have to be Brian. I think Bob Griese would even be an improvement.

lmao @ Rex Gross, man.

[Tiduwho]

Tommie Harris is gone for the year now no doubt.

[davehead86]

Griese....Griese....Griese

It doesn't even have to be Brian. I think Bob Griese would even be an improvement.

I think Lovie needs to draft QB next year, drop Orton and have Rex as second string and Griese as third string.

[Ev42]

man Tommie down for get this i'm watching family guy

[davehead86]

Tommie Harris is gone for the year now no doubt.

Seems we have lost everyone tonight.

Vasher
Briggs
Harris

[davehead86]

Nail in coffin.



Family Guy it is.

[ChetUbetcha]

This. Fucking. Blows.

[Tiduwho]

It's not that our defense was worn down John, it's that the middle of our defense is gone...not playing.

No Tommie Harris, no Lance Briggs, no Nate Vasher.

[jaking1185]

I feel bad for the Bears now. All those injuries so far this season.

It does help the Packers though.

[DMBZeppelin]

Seems we have lost everyone tonight.

Vasher
Briggs
Harris

You forgot Ogunleye. We need to suck this year and get Brohm from Louisville.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Thats the season.

Life is over.

[ChetUbetcha]

We need to suck this year and get Brohm from Louisville.

Fuck. No.

[jaking1185]

Love that Grossman...

[41ravens]

i wish you guys the best of luck this season. honestly. i feel bad they've kept grossman around this long.

[Ev42]

Um Hello bad Rex

[jaking1185]

At least you have the Cubs.

[DMBZeppelin]

Thats the season.

Life is over.

No we'll be a wild card and lose in the 1st round.

[ChetUbetcha]

Um Hello bad Rex

There isn't any other Rex.

Rex is history. Good riddance. Take your mega hot wife and head back to Florida.

[Tiduwho]

Put Rex on suicide watch tonight.

[jaking1185]

Put Rex on suicide watch tonight.

He'd try to shoot himself, but someone would intercept the bullet.

[Ev42]

Love that Grossman...

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol i bet you do. how about this we will give you 20,000,000 but you also have to take Rex and have him start for your team deal?

[skatcat]

He'd try to shoot himself, but someone would intercept the bullet.

:lol My team needs a new qb!

[davehead86]

i wish you guys the best of luck this season. honestly. i feel bad they've kept grossman around this long.

I dont know what goes on in his head. The beginning of this game he wasnt that bad, the last two games he wasnt that bad, now he just plain flat out sucks, alot.

Youve seen it too though, our recievers are blowing tons of passes and runs.
Our O-Line is still allowing stray runners to just hit up the middle. That all gets tacked onto Grossman (not that Im defending this game at all), but this shit has got to weigh heavy on Grossman.

[Tiduwho]

He'd try to shoot himself, but someone would intercept the bullet.

That was pretty good. :lol

[jaking1185]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol i bet you do. how about this we will give you 20,000,000 but you also have to take Rex and have him start for your team deal?

I'll talk to the shareholders....

[Ev42]

He'd try to shoot himself, but someone would intercept the bullet.

Dude thanks for the laugh:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[ChetUbetcha]

Put Rex on suicide watch tonight.

:rolleyesAnyway.....

Adam Archuleta is teh suck BTW.

[davehead86]

No we'll be a wild card and lose in the 1st round.
No we wont, not if we play like this.

There isn't any other Rex.

Rex is history. Good riddance. Take your mega hot wife and head back to Florida.

He wont be gone.

[ChetUbetcha]

No we wont, not if we play like this.



He wont be gone.

After this season? Yes, he will. It's his last year under contract.

[Ev42]

Ditka just stoled your wife Rex

[Ev42]

No we wont, not if we play like this.



He wont be gone.

knowing lovie he will be starting next week

[DMBZeppelin]

i wish you guys the best of luck this season. honestly. i feel bad they've kept grossman around this long.

Why? We never saw him play before 06' for any length of time. Al Michaels even said he was the MVP the first two months of last season. Rex has talent. Not anyone can throw 23 TD's and 3,000 yards in the NFL. Rex is in the same situation Brees was a few years back. But I'm pretty sure Rex might be benched for the year.

[Ev42]

Rexy probably cums in his wife's eye when he's suppose to shot on her tits.

[Ev42]

off topic what's the chance we get torie hunter next year

[jaking1185]

Dude thanks for the laugh:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

:lol No problem. Glad to help.

[davehead86]

After this season? Yes, he will. It's his last year under contract.

This season, maybe (yes right now). But I ment he thought after this game.

[ChetUbetcha]

Rexy probably cums in his wife's eye when he's suppose to shot on her tits.

:ugh

[jaking1185]

Rexy probably cums in his wife's eye when he's suppose to shot on her tits.

:lol At least you can laugh about it.

[ChetUbetcha]

This season, maybe (yes right now). But I ment he thought after this game.

Ah, of course not...never even considered that.

[Ev42]

:lol At least you can laugh about it.

man you have to i'm not going to be all depressed an whine about i didn't play the game

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I'm done with Rex.

The Bears will probably make it to the playoffs, if we do decent this year, but Superbowl......LOL!

My hopes are all on the Cubs right now.

I still have something to look forward too...........

[ChetUbetcha]

Rex is currently on Bears Post Game Live (Comcast Sportsnet) for you Chicago area folks.

For a while he was talking but nobody could hear him, turns out he was missing the mic...ZING.

[dmbmuskie]

The other 52 players on the Bears deserve to have someone else leading the offense.

[davehead86]

I'm done with Rex.

The Bears will probably make it to the playoffs, if we do decent this year, but Superbowl......LOL!

My hopes are all on the Cubs right now.

I still have something to look forward too...........

:thumbsup :cool

[jaking1185]

man you have to i'm not going to be all depressed an whine about i didn't play the game

That's a good attitude to have.

[davehead86]

The other 52 players on the Bears deserve to have someone else leading the offense.

A bunch of those 52 players are sucking it up just as much as Grossman.

[Ev42]

Rex is currently on Bears Post Game Live (Comcast Sportsnet) for you Chicago area folks.

For a while he was talking but nobody could hear him, turns out he was missing the mic...ZING.

:lol :lol i like mine better

[dmbmuskie]

A bunch of those 52 players are sucking it up just as much as Grossman.

He's sucking the life right out of them.

[Tiduwho]

We tied the game up at 10, and we had the Cowboys on the 5 yard line. 3 and 11. And I said before the play, fucking guard TO. But do they? Nope. Of course not.

That play was the turning point. The absolute pinpoint turning point. We lost all momentum on that play. Pathetic. We had all the momentum back and going our way, and then our defense shits a brick on 3 straight plays. Horrible pass defense. Archuleta got lit up. Just like that they were in the red zone on the other side of the field.

[cottlerocket]

Rex is an awesome QB! He's teh manzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[jordonh]

The cowboys ended up beating the bears and the refs. Atleast the refs realized it and helped the cowboys in the second half.

[ChetUbetcha]

. Archuleta got lit up.

He was benched by the Redskins for this exact reason. Fucking white boy.

[crashintonickdm]

did anyone see rex on the podium on ESPN?

[Ev42]

no why

[crashintonickdm]

no why

he looked like romo did when he spoke to the media after the bobbled field goal.

lost, confused, like crying.

[Dancing Ants]

i guess we'll see on sunday. prepare to be surprised. jason garrett takes no prisoners.

:D:D:D

[crashintonickdm]

at least??? thats quite a bit of confidence against Urlacher and crew. I have a ton of confidence we can hold the Cowboys offense under 20 points. :twenty4

that quote was from 9/18.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[cbotnyse]

that quote was from 9/18.

:lol :lol :lol :lolMy hat is off to you sir, you beat us.

The only good thing I got from this game is I met a really hot girl at the bar tonight. We are going out next week. :)

[Tiduwho]

6 starters, 5 Pro Bowlers all down from our defense.

This is now far from the defense that started the season off so well against the Chargers.

- Tommie Harris
- Mike Brown
- Adewale Ogunleye
- Lance Briggs
- Nathan Vasher
- Dusty Dvorecek


:lorraine


We didn't have a chance without an offense by the end of the 3rd quarter. Our backups can't replace these guys. :shrug

[crashintonickdm]

My hat is off to you sir, you beat us.

The only good thing I got from this game is I met a really hot girl at the bar tonight. We are going out next week. :)

congrats bro. :thumbsup and you may also get a new QB!!!

[DMBZeppelin]

Ok, I noticed this thread is turning into the bash Rex thread. For any of you that think our teams woes are mostly on Rex, you are all on crack. Rex isn't as bad as you'd all like to believe. Makes about as much sense as the "Rex is a deer in headlights" crap when he's showed he's tough as nails this year.

They are bringing up a lot of great points on the radio, despite some fans who disagree. Rex threw some picks late. But what would you rather have him do? Take sacks and give up on the game? He HAD to make ill advised throws. We were down big late in the game. No one was getting open, and time was working against us. Rex HAD to try and muscle something in there. It didn't work. Benson's fumble IMO was the turning point.

Also other good points brought up. If we put in Griese, will that actually improve the offense in any way? If it's not, can you honestly go back to Rex after you give up on him? I think we have to give up on Rex because he's turned into a scape goat. He's the reason for all our problems, and he always will be when he's starting.

Someone brought up they didn't like Rex sitting on the sidelines not doing much. You always see Manning and others breaking down photos and crap on the sidelines. The point brought up was Rex does EXACTLY what the coaches want him to do. He's not on the side lines refusing coaching. It's the coaching staff's job to give our QB's (not just Rex) resources to succeed.

I want you all to remember how bad we were on offense in 2004, and 2005. The 2005 offense was the same as the 2006 with the exception of Grossman starting. We have a bad O-line, recievers dropping balls, and a running back who sucks. That is a HORRIBLE situation for Rex. While we can all blame Rex for the rest of the offense sucking. Griese would probably replicate a similar performance. Griese is slower, and unlike Rex he can't make all the throws.

I don't mind if everyone wants to be "BENCH REX!" but we need to bench other guys as well for not doing their job. Even if it's just a week. Rashid Davis and Mark Bradley need to start next week. Moose is a captain, and making a lot of money. Being this leader he doesn't do anything to change the game. He runs routes like crap, and is VERY SLOW turning the corner. Rex's first INT should have been a completion.

If Berrian doesn't drop a TD pass, and Moose doesn't kill a drive. Who knows how the game turns out. If we get a lead, Rex won't be making bad throws. Honestly this offense's woes are a lot on Angelo as well. He let this O-line get old. We have an elite center with only so many more years in the tank. We're going to waste his prime with this crap.

Tommie Harris, Adawale Ogunleye, Lance Briggs, Nathan Vasher, Dusty Dvorceak, and Mike Brown. What do all these people have in common? They are starters, and injured. Over half of the opening day starting defense was off the field by the 2nd half of this game. This could be a long season if they are all gone for many weeks.

Also Adam Archuletta is a role player. He's a guy who could get away with misplays by having a Pro Bowl safety in Mike Brown back there. Now with Brown gone he looks HORRIBLE. He needs to learn to wrap up guys, and not just try to get a shoulder in there. He got burned a LOT. I wish we had Dante Wesley and Chris Harris back.

All in all you can blame this all on Rex. That's great, but we haven't really given him the tools. I don't mind if we go out and draft a QB in the 1st round next year. Though I'd rather get a new running back, and a QB in the 2nd unless we are in the top 10. Then I'd want a stud QB. But that QB will not succeed in this situation. A running back who looks like he's always hurt. Gets up off the ground so fucking slow, after laying there and taking a nap. Then you have the recievers who can't catch, and an O-line who can't block. With Ron Turner who's HORRIBLE at play calling. So don't expect whoever takes Rex's place to be any better.

Also I think I've realized something about this whole team philosophy. We don't believe in changing what we do. People can adjust to us. Cowboys couldn't run, so they basically passed the entire 2nd half. On third downs TO would run the SAME route and get the 1st down. We lacked a lot of creativity on offense. We don't try and attack certain players on the defense. Why didn't Olsen see the field more? He looked good, and nothing else was working. This whole coaching staff needs to learn to adjust their play calling to what's working.

In 2005 against Carolina in the playoffs. The fact we got exposed for only letting a corner play one side of the field got revealed. They basically got to choose their matchups. Hence having a practice squad CB on Steve Smith. Hell in the Super Bowl the Colts were giving everything underneath, but Turner kept going deep. I'm not sorry for ranting. There's so much wrong with this team, and everyone gets a free pass but Rex. This whole team is bad, and a mixture of coaching and bad players will ruin this season.

[DMBZeppelin]

congrats bro. :thumbsup and you may also get a new QB!!!
Promise me one thing. You guys are offically kings of the NFC tonight. Just don't let the Packers beat you in the playoffs. Also I think Romo finally earned himself that new contract tonight. His escapeability is AMAZING.

[bothedmbfan]

If I never saw Rex play QB for us again, I would sleep peacefully.

[Ev42]

If I never saw Rex play QB for us again, I would sleep peacefully.

agree

[crashintonickdm]

Promise me one thing. You guys are offically kings of the NFC tonight. Just don't let the Packers beat you in the playoffs. Also I think Romo finally earned himself that new contract tonight. His escapeability is AMAZING.

im a big brett favre fan so im happy for him and we actually play them in like november.

as far as what you said about rex grossman. dude, give it up, he fucking blows. he cost you that game. not to be ignorantly blunt, but face it.

[Tiduwho]

If I never saw Rex play QB for us again, I would sleep peacefully.

Yeah, I'm envying the day we get to see 3 qb's a season again, and each time the crowd cheers for the backup who of course sucks as well after short-term success. Those were good days. :rolleyes

[Ev42]

new thread Bash Rex thread.

[bothedmbfan]

Yeah, I'm envying the day we get to see 3 qb's a season again, and each time the crowd cheers for the backup who of course sucks as well after short-term success. Those were good days. :rolleyes

Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

[Ev42]

Lovie Rex is are QB. hey lovie he suck monkey nuts. i hope he starts every game and falls flat on his face so people see what he really is.

[Ev42]

Rexy you dumb shit you throw the ball to people with the same helmet on

[bothedmbfan]

Trade for Kurt.

[DMBZeppelin]

im a big brett favre fan so im happy for him and we actually play them in like november.

as far as what you said about rex grossman. dude, give it up, he fucking blows. he cost you that game. not to be ignorantly blunt, but face it.
No Benson cost us the game. Rex nailed the coffin shut, but he didn't have many options at that point. Try to make something happen or give up. I'm sick of him being the scape goat, and I'm sick of hearing about him. I like Rex, but he needs to go. Once we get back to 7-9 TDs a year and 1,500 yards passers. Everyone can get back to being happy. Because that's the Bears football I grew up watching.

Honestly though, Benson was the 4th overall pick in 2005. We gave up TJ because he was blocking him from becoming the runner the Bears thought he could be. Benson BLOWS. He doesn't try and he doesn't care. Bears draft strategy next year needs to be:
Round
1. QB
2. RB
3. Safety
4. DT
5. WR
6. LB
7. WR

[Ev42]

benson does blow so dose Sexy Rexy, so does barrian

[Ev42]

Trade for Kurt.

Kurt = superbowl

[bothedmbfan]

Berrian isn't ready to be a #1. He's a good #2 though.

[bothedmbfan]

Kurt = superbowl

Truth.

[DMBZeppelin]

Kurt = superbowl
I hope you're joking around. There's so much wrong with this offense. Honestly though I hope this gets Bradley more playing time. He has number 1 reciever potential. Yet he's stuck behind 4 guys who are supposedly so great, but I'm not seeing it.

[gocubsgo3822]

rex was really bad tonight hate to pile on but they wont win withhim in there he just has no confidence. Mark Schlereth was really hard on him...

[Ev42]

kurt to Ditka touchdown. Rex can clean Ditka's jockstrap

[Ev42]

rex was really bad tonight hate to pile on but they wont win withhim in there he just has no confidence. Mark Schlereth was really hard on him...

what did he say

[Dancing Ants]

how many of your defensive players were down before this game ever started?

[bothedmbfan]

kurt to Ditka touchdown. Rex can clean Ditka's jockstrap

Kurt can then smother Rex with his religious nuts.

[bothedmbfan]

how many of your defensive players were down before this game ever started?

2 I think.

[crashintonickdm]

2 I think.

we blew you out reguardless.

lets go cowboys!!!

[Dancing Ants]

we blew you out reguardless.

lets go cowboys!!!

i think they got the message man.

[Ev42]

Kurt can then smother Rex with his religious nuts.

:lol :lol :lol

[crashintonickdm]

i think they got the message man.

uh ok thanks. all i heard all week was the cowboy offense wont do shit.

[bothedmbfan]

I named my cat's kitten Rex Grossman.

Why? Because after this week, he is fucking gone.

[Ev42]

we blew you out reguardless.

lets go cowboys!!!

congrats

[Ev42]

I named my cat's kitten Rex Grossman.

Why? Because after this week, he is fucking gone.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[crashintonickdm]

I named my cat's kitten Rex Grossman.

Why? Because after this week, he is fucking gone.

wassup bo?

[Ev42]

uh ok thanks. all i heard all week was the cowboy offense wont do shit.

Ditka Says get the fuck out you whiney little bitch

[bothedmbfan]

wassup bo?

The Cubs.

[crashintonickdm]

Ditka Says get the fuck out you whiney little bitch

ditka played for the cowboys before he went to the bears.

go to hell.

[gocubsgo3822]

rex was really bad tonight hate to pile on but they wont win withhim in there he just has no confidence. Mark Schlereth was really hard on him...

that he had no confidence that he was playing not to lose and you cant do that. That if this shit keeps happening their wiill be rumbling because of the fact that the rest of the team will get pissed. ROugh day for Grossman..

Maybe the cowboys wont resign romo and we could bring him here

[crashintonickdm]

The Cubs.

yeah im pretty upset the worthless NL central will have a playoff team before the phillies. it happened last year and it probably will happen this year.

[DMBZeppelin]

uh ok thanks. all i heard all week was the cowboy offense wont do shit.
Great, and good for you. You guys won fair a square, but if you want to gloat about it. I'm going to start bringing up the Pro Bowl defenders on defense we were missing.

[Ev42]

ditka played for the cowboys before he went to the bears.

go to hell.

Ditka only played for Da Bears.

Ditka is going to smash your face

[crashintonickdm]

Great, and good for you. You guys won fair a square, but if you want to gloat about it. I'm going to start bringing up the Pro Bowl defenders on defense we were missing.

and ill bring up the fact that if they were in we would have won reguardless, just not as bad. the defense isnt your problem. they got tired because of rex's 3 turnovers.

your defense is nasty.

[crashintonickdm]

Ditka only played for Da Bears.

Ditka is going to smash your face

lol. ditka began it all in big D.

[Ev42]

that he had no confidence that he was playing not to lose and you cant do that. That if this shit keeps happening their wiill be rumbling because of the fact that the rest of the team will get pissed. ROugh day for Grossman..

Maybe the cowboys wont resign romo and we could bring him here



that would be awesome

[ShotgunDMB]

Like I've been saying for a long time now; Grossman is bad. How many times does he have to completely suck before they look for a competent quarterback?

[Dancing Ants]

lol. ditka began it all in big D.

actually Ditka was drafted by the Bears in '61 man.

[bothedmbfan]

Ditka only played for Da Bears.

Ditka is going to smash your face

Well...he played for the Iggles too...

[crashintonickdm]

actually Ditka was drafted by the Bears in '61 man.

lol i thought dallas drafted him.

[Ev42]

lol. ditka began it all in big D.

Nope he he felt so sorry so he graced that shit stain for a while. he's a Bear

[bothedmbfan]

lol i thought dallas drafted him.

That makes you wrong, doesn't it?

[Dancing Ants]

uh ok thanks. all i heard all week was the cowboy offense wont do shit.

yeah i heard that too. but who won the game? enough has been said by the players on the field. no reason to rub it in (unless it's Philly. then you're free).

[crashintonickdm]

That makes you wrong, doesn't it?

yep.

[crashintonickdm]

yeah i heard that too. but who won the game? enough has been said by the players on the field. no reason to rub it in (unless it's Philly. then you're free).

yep, i have. i'm still getting told that romo is overrated, and that dallas isnt that great cause they didnt play the packers or redskins yet.

i responded with laughter, yes the packers will be tough but our offense is too strong. i think we'll be okay with anybody.

[Dancing Ants]

Nope he he felt so sorry so he graced that shit stain for a while. he's a Bear

rrright. that shitstain that was consistently one of the best teams in the league for 95% of Tom Landry's head coaching career.

[ShotgunDMB]

yep, i have. i'm still getting told that romo is overrated, and that dallas isnt that great cause they didnt play the packers or redskins yet.

i responded with laughter, yes the packers will be tough but our offense is too strong. i think we'll be okay with anybody.

Carolina. December 20something. Mark it down.

[crashintonickdm]

Carolina. December 20something. Mark it down.

:lol oh god, them again?

[Ev42]

Bear Grylls should be are QB we would never lose a game

[bothedmbfan]

Bo Pearson should be are QB we would never lose a game

Fixed for accuracy.

[Ev42]

rrright. that shitstain that was consistently one of the best teams in the league for 95% of Tom Landry's head coaching career.

sorry to offend you more towards the other guy. I retract it

[ShotgunDMB]

:lol oh god, them again?

heck yeah. if we played today, ill admit dallas would probably beat us. i think it will be competitive though. i'll give dallas their props. they look touuuugh.

[crashintonickdm]

sorry to offend you more towards the other guy. I retract it

lol, that would offend any cowboy fan.

[Ev42]

Bear Grylls should be are QB we would never lose a game

True that:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[ShotgunDMB]

Why is Rex Grossman SOOOO bad?

[crashintonickdm]

heck yeah. if we played today, ill admit dallas would probably beat us. i think it will be competitive though. i'll give dallas their props. they look touuuugh.

give us our bad luck blue jersyes in carolina for the playoffs this year. i want reveenge for 1996 and 2003.

[bothedmbfan]

True that:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

No, it should be Robert Pearson. This guy has fucking talent.

[Ev42]

Rexy probably cums in his wife's eye when he's suppose to shot on her tits.

i got to quote this. it's just that good

[crashintonickdm]

oh god. anyone watching ESPN right now?

[ShotgunDMB]

give us our bad luck blue jersyes in carolina for the playoffs this year. i want reveenge for 1996 and 2003.

lol, we'll see. even T.O. is being a good teammate this year..crazyness. i want revenge for 2003, 2005 and 2006(regular season).

[DMBZeppelin]

oh god. anyone watching ESPN right now?
What's being said?

[crashintonickdm]

lol, we'll see. even T.O. is being a good teammate this year..crazyness. i want revenge for 2003, 2005 and 2006(regular season).

nah we beat you in 2005. 24-20. that was a great game. julius jones actually broke tackles.

[crashintonickdm]

What's being said?

talking about hurricane katrina and the rebuilding process (nothing wrong with that). sunday conversation with reggie bush. the thing that isnt right about this is, it should be drew brees doing the speaking. all it is a hyping reggie bush thing. brees is the leader of that team and if anyhting, mccalister is 2nd after him. reggie bush is overrated and acts like hes on the dancing of the stars when he runs.

[DMBZeppelin]

the thing that isnt right about this is, it should be drew brees doing the speaking.
I'm surprised you'd like Brees. He was basically Rex Grossman till 2004.

Though I agree, Reggie Bush needs to learn to just run. It's cool to dance once in a while, but at least get the 1st down! You don't have to score a TD on every play.

[bothedmbfan]

Bush pisses me off.

[crashintonickdm]

I'm surprised you'd like Brees. He was basically Rex Grossman till 2004.

Though I agree, Reggie Bush needs to learn to just run. It's cool to dance once in a while, but at least get the 1st down! You don't have to score a TD on every play.

unlike rex though, brees turned his career around. i hope he turns it up soon, hes on my fantasy team (thank god for tony romo)

[DMBZeppelin]

unlike rex though, brees turned his career around. i hope he turns it up soon, hes on my fantasy team (thank god for tony romo)
I know, and good for Brees. But for instance, lots of people call Rex short. Despite the fact you have a guy like Brees who's an inch shorter and no one complains. Brees was benched off and on for Doug Flutie of all people. Brian Griese is better then Doug Flutie. Brees had LT but not much else. Then the Chargers went out and spent the 1st pick on a QB. They could of kept Brees and used that on something else.

Regardless I wish Rex the best even if it's not with the Bears. I just hope whoever is the QB that we can get them some weapons on offense. We have Olsen, but he saw the field for very few snaps. Though when he did, he made plays. Berrian and Bradley have talent, but they need a true number 1 reciever to take pressure off them.

[davehead86]

I think Olsen, if given the opportunity, will become the star for this Bears team, he just needs to get in there.

[Heavy As Stone]

I actually feel somewhat bad for Rex. I know he has been sucking and they should probably put in Griese, but I dunno. I just feel bad for him. Maybe Orton can pull a Brady/Romo and be a nobody who is just all the sudden awesome.

[davehead86]

I actually feel somewhat bad for Rex. I know he has been sucking and they should probably put in Griese, but I dunno. I just feel bad for him. Maybe Orton can pull a Brady/Romo and be a nobody who is just all the sudden awesome.

As soon as Rex becomes a nobody I could see that happening for him. He just has so much attention constantly from the crowd and media.

Griese is by far not a solution, maybe Orton has learned something sitting on the bench.

[saygdbye4134]

Orton can throw. he's actually a pretty damn good QB. he should have his chance.

Griese is not the solution. to put it like madden, "griese is just a band-aid to the problem right now."

Wrecks is definetly not the solultion. I think last night should have been his last chance. he is just not that good of an NFL QB. I don't believe that he would be a starter anywhere else, even baltimore or miami.

we are already 2 games back in the division. things need to change now, or the season is lost.

[41ravens]

the bears shouldn't have gone away from their tight ends. that is the cowboys' biggest weakness...right down the middle of the field. as shown on that one drive. instead, they kept throwing out routes to the sidelines where there was double/triple coverage. olsen looked pretty good in the 2 plays he was involved in.

[Dancing Ants]

the bears shouldn't have gone away from their tight ends. that is the cowboys' biggest weakness...right down the middle of the field. as shown on that one drive. instead, they kept throwing out routes to the sidelines where there was double/triple coverage. olsen looked pretty good in the 2 plays he was involved in.

good point. especially with the way Roy "tackles" people now (read: bounces off of them), it would've done them good to exploit the middle. but then we probably would've taken that away from them. look what henry did after we let them run those mini hook routes to berrian the whole first quarter.

[dmbmuskie]

I think Olsen, if given the opportunity, will become the star for this Bears team, he just needs to get in there.

It's hard for a TE to become a star. I think he'll be a nice player, but I don't think he'll ever make it onto the level where Gates and Gonzales are.

[dmbmuskie]

the bears shouldn't have gone away from their tight ends. that is the cowboys' biggest weakness...right down the middle of the field. as shown on that one drive. instead, they kept throwing out routes to the sidelines where there was double/triple coverage. olsen looked pretty good in the 2 plays he was involved in.

NFL coaches outthink themselves. I'm sure in a meeting it was decided not to attack the middle because the Cowboys will be expecting them to. There is nothing more humiliating than knowing what is coming and not being able to stop it. I love watching the Steelers pound the ball behind Faneca and the Colts run play action off the stretch, while the defense is helpless to stop it.

[Tiduwho]

If our defense doesn't get healthy, it won't matter who we have behind center or who is running the ball. Plain and simple.


Besides that point, at least this is nothing new from Rex, god damnit why did we trade Thomas Jones (and for NOTHING might I add?). Benson just runs. That's what he does. Guy in the way? He'll just run into him. Running a sweep and there's guys everywhere? Just run into them. He runs the designed play and doesn't adjust whatsoever.

This isn't college, you can't barrel over people anymore!

[Dancing Ants]

That's what he does. Guy in the way? He'll just run into him. Running a sweep and there's guys everywhere? Just run into them. He runs the designed play and doesn't adjust whatsoever.


are you talking about Julius Jones? he does the EXACT same thing.

[Tiduwho]

are you talking about Julius Jones? he does the EXACT same thing.

He must not take after his brother. Thomas was great at cutting back.

[Dancing Ants]

He must not take after his brother. Thomas was great at cutting back.

yeah he doesn't take after him. it's just run to the hole > fall down.

[davehead86]

the bears shouldn't have gone away from their tight ends. that is the cowboys' biggest weakness...right down the middle of the field. as shown on that one drive. instead, they kept throwing out routes to the sidelines where there was double/triple coverage. olsen looked pretty good in the 2 plays he was involved in.

Well that would be Ron Turners glorious decision. What a fucking tool bag. :BANG

[davehead86]

Orton can throw. he's actually a pretty damn good QB. he should have his chance.

Griese is not the solution. to put it like madden, "griese is just a band-aid to the problem right now."

Wrecks is definetly not the solultion. I think last night should have been his last chance. he is just not that good of an NFL QB. I don't believe that he would be a starter anywhere else, even baltimore or miami.

we are already 2 games back in the division. things need to change now, or the season is lost.

:lol :lol OMFG did you think of that all by yourself??? :rolleyes

[Ev42]

i'm not a Rex fan at all but i think he should get 2 more games before a switch what do all you think.

[jaking1185]

i'm not a Rex fan at all but i think he should get 2 more games before a switch what do all you think.

I guess that depends if you want to face a 1-4 record. But then again Griese and Orton are not the answer either.

This should have been addressed in the offseason, finding a more capable veteran quarterback. Jeff Garcia come to mind. He is playing well in Tampa.

The Bears don't need a Peyton Manning type, just someone who can control the ball and not make mistakes that kill your team. The defense and special teams can take care of the rest.

Maybe the Pack will let you have Aaron Rodgers.:D

[cbotnyse]

i'm not a Rex fan at all but i think he should get 2 more games before a switch what do all you think.I think we need a line that can block or recievers that will run routes and actually catch balls or it wont matter if we have Peyton Manning back there.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

The Bears are really good at one thing this season:

Getting Injured.

[davehead86]

i'm not a Rex fan at all but i think he should get 2 more games before a switch what do all you think.

Lovie said half way on Comcast the last time he spoke. I wonder if that will stick.

[cbotnyse]

The Bears are really good at one thing this season:

Getting Injured.that and turnovers...what is our TD to turnover ratio?

[jaking1185]

The Bears are really good at one thing this season:

Getting Injured.

First time I was ever quoted in a sig. Thanks.

[jaking1185]

that and turnovers...what is our TD to turnover ratio?

According to NFL.com

2 offensive TD's (1 rush, 1 pass)

5 Fumbles
6 Interceptions

so thats 2/11

[ChetUbetcha]

They are so bad right now. This shit better get turned around fast. And it only begins with Rex

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

They are so bad right now. This shit better get turned around fast. And it only begins with Rex

Rex is part of it but it doesn't begin there.

Our Defense is injured and we are big big trouble in that aspect.

Also our Running game is pretty bad.



But yeah I used to back up Rex, untill last night.

I'm not sure I can support him much longer....

I'll give him one last chance to woo me this week....

Untill then I will remain silent about him.....

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

According to NFL.com

2 offensive TD's (1 rush, 1 pass)

5 Fumbles
6 Interceptions

so thats 2/11

Thats a big difference from last years start.

We were leading the league in TD's the first 6 games I think...

[cbotnyse]

According to NFL.com

2 offensive TD's (1 rush, 1 pass)

5 Fumbles
6 Interceptions

so thats 2/11I dont remember it ever being that bad so fast. that is brutal.

[DMBZeppelin]

The only positive thing I've read is Desmond Clark ranted about Rex still being his guy. Probably because Rex likes to throw to tight ends. Of course Ron Turner didn't have any of that. Once he saw Rex attacking the middle of the field when the scored 7, well that was the end of that.

I've had mixed emotions on Rex all day. One person I keep getting more and more down on is Moose. It would be Benson, but he was never good to have a fall. Moose wears a C for Captain. He's suppose to be a #1 reciever. He's suppose to be a leader and go out and make a difference. The guy has done nothing but drop easy passes. Rex hits the guy in the hands, even in the KC game and it's a drop.

Regardless of what you think about Rex's last two INTs. Rex got picked off leading his reciver who had the inside. THINK ABOUT THAT! Moose turns the corner ungodly slow, having position the whole time. AND IT'S AN INTERCEPTION! If you have the inside, you should also be in a position to break it up.

Regardless I don't think Lovie will bench Rex, he may surprise me, but I think if he does it will be after the Lions game. Lovie breaks the season into four quarters. They really do a serious evaluation after each quarter. Though it's hard to tell who should be benched when the unit plays like crap as a whole. Just next week, for the love of God let Moose see the field less. We need more of Mark Bradley.

[davehead86]

The only positive thing I've read is Desmond Clark ranted about Rex still being his guy. Probably because Rex likes to throw to tight ends. Of course Ron Turner didn't have any of that. Once he saw Rex attacking the middle of the field when the scored 7, well that was the end of that.

I've had mixed emotions on Rex all day. One person I keep getting more and more down on is Moose. It would be Benson, but he was never good to have a fall. Moose wears a C for Captain. He's suppose to be a #1 reciever. He's suppose to be a leader and go out and make a difference. The guy has done nothing but drop easy passes. Rex hits the guy in the hands, even in the KC game and it's a drop.

Regardless of what you think about Rex's last two INTs. Rex got picked off leading his reciver who had the inside. THINK ABOUT THAT! Moose turns the corner ungodly slow, having position the whole time. AND IT'S AN INTERCEPTION! If you have the inside, you should also be in a position to break it up.

Regardless I don't think Lovie will bench Rex, he may surprise me, but I think if he does it will be after the Lions game. Lovie breaks the season into four quarters. They really do a serious evaluation after each quarter. Though it's hard to tell who should be benched when the unit plays like crap as a whole. Just next week, for the love of God let Moose see the field less. We need more of Mark Bradley.

I agree with this statement, well put. And Lovie said it himself, the entire team was bad and there are numerous guys that could be benched right now, not just Rex.

Im still pissed about Rex's performance this year. Last year his numbers were decent in the beginning and then something happened and it started to go downhill, but I supported him and that he was a good QB for Chicago, I dont know about that anymore.

[kurz41]

NFL Network reporting that Griese named starter for this Sunday! We'll see what he can do!!!

[Ev42]

The only positive thing I've read is Desmond Clark ranted about Rex still being his guy. Probably because Rex likes to throw to tight ends. Of course Ron Turner didn't have any of that. Once he saw Rex attacking the middle of the field when the scored 7, well that was the end of that.

I've had mixed emotions on Rex all day. One person I keep getting more and more down on is Moose. It would be Benson, but he was never good to have a fall. Moose wears a C for Captain. He's suppose to be a #1 reciever. He's suppose to be a leader and go out and make a difference. The guy has done nothing but drop easy passes. Rex hits the guy in the hands, even in the KC game and it's a drop.

Regardless of what you think about Rex's last two INTs. Rex got picked off leading his reciver who had the inside. THINK ABOUT THAT! Moose turns the corner ungodly slow, having position the whole time. AND IT'S AN INTERCEPTION! If you have the inside, you should also be in a position to break it up.

Regardless I don't think Lovie will bench Rex, he may surprise me, but I think if he does it will be after the Lions game. Lovie breaks the season into four quarters. They really do a serious evaluation after each quarter. Though it's hard to tell who should be benched when the unit plays like crap as a whole. Just next week, for the love of God let Moose see the field less. We need more of Mark Bradley.


agree but i rather sit Berrian than Moose

[cbotnyse]

NFL Network reporting that Griese named starter for this Sunday! We'll see what he can do!!!link? serious?

[kurz41]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=12C9502B913B038317049598237C63FF? id=09000d5d802abff2&template=with-video&confirm=true

[Ev42]

Listen to Mac, Jurko & Harry seems like Griese is the QB. might be the end for Rex in Chicago

[DMBZeppelin]

agree but i rather sit Berrian than Moose
Berrian can still make plays, Moose is just a waste of space.

Anyways my girlfriend told me they said Griese is starting Sunday. She said on the Score they got a report from the NFL Network who has the news. If what she heard is true, Rex is 3rd string. So basically, bye bye Rex.

I understand but don't agree with the decision. The Lions offense can be lit up as show by other teams. Whoever starts against the Lions will have a good game.

[cbotnyse]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=12C9502B913B038317049598237C63FF? id=09000d5d802abff2&template=with-video&confirm=true i dont see anywhere in that link where Lovie was quoted as saying such. He said we will know wednesday.

[DMBZeppelin]

NFL Network reporting that Griese named starter for this Sunday! We'll see what he can do!!!
He'll do good. They got guys like Ernie Simms injured. Rex had 4 TD's 0 INT's against the Lions last year, and the defense is weak right now. If Griese doesn't score a lot on them, I'd be very scared.

[kurz41]

i dont see anywhere in that link where Lovie was quoted as saying such. He said we will know wednesday.
Did you see the first sentence of the article? It wasn't Lovie, but i doubt NFL network would publish if not true.

[Ev42]

Berrian can still make plays, Moose is just a waste of space.

Anyways my girlfriend told me they said Griese is starting Sunday. She said on the Score they got a report from the NFL Network who has the news. If what she heard is true, Rex is 3rd string. So basically, bye bye Rex.

I understand but don't agree with the decision. The Lions offense can be lit up as show by other teams. Whoever starts against the Lions will have a good game.

disagree imo

[kurz41]

He'll do good. They got guys like Ernie Simms injured. Rex had 4 TD's 0 INT's against the Lions last year, and the defense is weak right now. If Griese doesn't score a lot on them, I'd be very scared.
and if we put Bradley and Berrian @ starting WR's!?????????????!!!!!!!!!! Who knows? We may just put a lot on the board.

[cbotnyse]

Did you see the first sentence of the article? It wasn't Lovie, but i doubt NFL network would publish if not true.I'd rather hear Lovie say it then some NFL writer....although I wont be surprised if it is true.

[Ev42]

i think we will find out tomorrow like Lovie said

[kurz41]

I'd rather hear Lovie say it then some NFL writer....although I wont be surprised if it is true.
But it is true. I'm not sure why you're so skeptical.

[DMBtheStoned]

da bears

[DMBZeppelin]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3035841
Tommie Harris will probably be out about a month. Thank god he didn't tear something.

[cbotnyse]

But it is true. I'm not sure why you're so skeptical.:lol why are you so bend on believing this dude, when Lovie said he will tell us tomorrow. What if I said in my myspace blog that Orton is starting, would you believe it. Just because it is the NFL network doesnt mean poo.

[kurz41]

:lol why are you so bend on believing this dude, when Lovie said he will tell us tomorrow. What if I said in my myspace blog that Orton is starting, would you believe it. Just because it is the NFL network doesnt mean poo.
It's okay....you can believe tomorrow what I know today. ;) There's a big difference between a blog and NFL Network.

[DMBZeppelin]

Did you see the first sentence of the article? It wasn't Lovie, but i doubt NFL network would publish if not true.
Like when everyone wanted to be first about the Eli injury, and they all said he was out at least a month. Then he wound up starting that following Sunday.
disagree imo
Berrian is 27th in the league in recieving yards. He's on pace for 1,179 yards. Moose has 36 yards and is on pace for 192 on the season. They've both had their chances. Berrian has cost us some TD's and mis ran a route or gave up a route that resulted in INTs, but so has Moose. They've both messed up. Only difference is Berrian is somewhat productive. Moose is just HORRIBLE. I don't know why you disagree.
and if we put Bradley and Berrian @ starting WR's!?????????????!!!!!!!!!! Who knows? We may just put a lot on the board.
We can only hope. Moose wanted Rex benched, and semi-blamed him for the offenses woes. So I hope he doesn't take it personal if Lovie benches him too. If Brian Griese can't tear up the Lions I'll be sad. Lions game the past two years:

2006 Week 2: Rex went 20/27, 289 Yards, 4 TD's and 0 INT
2006 Week 16: Rex went 20/36, 197 Yards, 1 TD's and 0 INT
2005 Week 2: Orton went 14/21, 150 Yards, 1 TD and 0 INT
2005 Week 8: Orton went 17/31, 230 Yards, 1 TD and 0 INT

[cbotnyse]

It's okay....you can believe tomorrow what I know today. ;) There's a big difference between a blog and NFL Network.if Rex didnt suck monster balls, I might take you up on that bet. But I'm sure it is true. But I like Lovie's style of sticking to his word, so when he says we will know tomorrow, I take it as we will know tomorrow.

[jaking1185]

I like the change just for the sake of change. How much longer could the team survive another abysmal performance from Rex? The season isn't lost yet and they had to try something.

This is not the Rex from the first 1/2 of last year. He is gone, and it doesn't look like he'll ever be back.

[DMBZeppelin]

I like the change just for the sake of change. How much longer could the team survive another abysmal performance from Rex? The season isn't lost yet and they had to try something.

This is not the Rex from the first 1/2 of last year. He is gone, and it doesn't look like he'll ever be back.
But no one else is going to be better.

- Recievers running bad routes
- Recievers dropping easy passes
- O-Line sucks at picking up Blitzes, and general pass protection
- ZERO Run game, and the running backs don't help in pass protection or running game

You know what all that equals? A HORRIBLE situation for a QB. You can blame Rex all you want, but he never had a chance.

[Tiduwho]

What's the over/under on when Orton starts? I'd like to see him again, honestly.

5 weeks?

[DMBZeppelin]

What's the over/under on when Orton starts? I'd like to see him again, honestly.

5 weeks?
Depends on the Packers. Next 5 weeks:
Week 1: @ Lions
Week 2: @ Packers
Week 3: V.s. Vikings
Week 4: @ Eagles
Week 5: V.s. Lions

The problem there is the Lions really suck on D. Griese will look good his 1st week, and then we'll probably lose to the Pack the next week. Then we have to hope Vikes and Eagles show he bombs before he can have another good game against the Lions.

[Tiduwho]

The Vikings are bad outside of their O and D lines. Amazingly bad.

[jaking1185]

But no one else is going to be better.

- Recievers running bad routes
- Recievers dropping easy passes
- O-Line sucks at picking up Blitzes, and general pass protection
- ZERO Run game, and the running backs don't help in pass protection or running game

You know what all that equals? A HORRIBLE situation for a QB. You can blame Rex all you want, but he never had a chance.

I feel that you take too much blame off of Rex. I understand he is your QB, but at some point he has to be held accountable for his mistakes. All those INT's came out of his hand, even if the receivers did not help. All his bad decisions were made by him. At some point he has to man up and admit he is not playing well and maybe it would be better for the team to go in another direction.

Take Favre for example. Last year the team was bad, and Brett seemed to follow the team and played bad. He forced passes and made bad decisions. This year, with the same cast of characters, he is playing much better. He has no running game, and only one decent receiver. The difference is that he decided to begin playing within the context of the team offense, and stopped trying to force everything. Because the team is 3-0 Brett seems recharged too, and is playing like he did 3-4 years ago.

What I am saying is that Rex would need to learn how to control himself and stop forcing things. I don't see him maturing to that level, and he may never get there. Other team problems aside, the lack of offensive prodcution is directly attributed to the man running things, and that's Rex. I think that people who want to stick with him are holding on to the belief that "Good Rex" is coming back. He's not. Good Rex was an illusion.

[TempHelpNeeded]

Report: Griese will replace Grossman at QB Sunday

(Mariotti on ESPN)

sure you all heard already.

[DMBZeppelin]

I feel that you take too much blame off of Rex. I understand he is your QB, but at some point he has to be held accountable for his mistakes. All those INT's came out of his hand, even if the receivers did not help. All his bad decisions were made by him. At some point he has to man up and admit he is not playing well and maybe it would be better for the team to go in another direction.

Take Favre for example. Last year the team was bad, and Brett seemed to follow the team and played bad. He forced passes and made bad decisions. This year, with the same cast of characters, he is playing much better. He has no running game, and only one decent receiver. The difference is that he decided to begin playing within the context of the team offense, and stopped trying to force everything. Because the team is 3-0 Brett seems recharged too, and is playing like he did 3-4 years ago.

What I am saying is that Rex would need to learn how to control himself and stop forcing things. I don't see him maturing to that level, and he may never get there. Other team problems aside, the lack of offensive prodcution is directly attributed to the man running things, and that's Rex. I think that people who want to stick with him are holding on to the belief that "Good Rex" is coming back. He's not. Good Rex was an illusion.
I agree that Rex deserves blame, but I don't think before we play a game we can really see if Rex has it or not that we bench him. Point being INTs are INTs. But is it a bad decision by Rex if he throws it where a reciever will be. Then a guy gives up on it, or is so old and slow he can't turn the corner WHILE HAVING THE INSIDE and the ball gets picked off. That's not on the QB at all.

The INTs late in the game were Rex's fault, but he had to throw those INTs. You're down by a few scores late, and no one is getting open. Take sacks and punt, or try to force a play. It didn't work and he gets blame for it, but I do take consideration he was in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. I like Rex, and he's clearly the most TALENTED QB on the roster. It might be time for a change.

I'm a Bears fan who wants his team to win a Super Bowl. Griese is horrible in big games. In the end if Griese tears it up I will support him. It's just that Rex gets blamed for everything and it's not fair.

[ChetUbetcha]

What's the over/under on when Orton starts? I'd like to see him again, honestly.

5 weeks?

Yeah. No.

But s'all good. Griese in the house.

[DMBZeppelin]

Yeah. No.

But s'all good. Griese in the house.
Wow! :twak

I have no problem if anyone thinks Griese starting is going to be an improvement. But I do have a HUGE problem if people think Rex is the only reason the offense was bad. There's a lot of problems with this offense. Griese won't fix any of them. The only thing he'll do is be Brian Griese.

[ChetUbetcha]

Wow! :twak

I have no problem if anyone thinks Griese starting is going to be an improvement. But I do have a HUGE problem if people think Rex is the only reason the offense was bad. There's a lot of problems with this offense. Griese won't fix any of them. The only thing he'll do is be Brian Griese.

What?

All I was saying is that Orton stinks. Calm down there, asshat.

[DMBtheStoned]

Griese sucks. This is coming from a Bucs fan.

[ChetUbetcha]

BTW I actually posted that thinking Tiduwho's post was before it was announced Griese was starting.

[jaking1185]

I agree that Rex deserves blame, but I don't think before we play a game we can really see if Rex has it or not that we bench him. Point being INTs are INTs. But is it a bad decision by Rex if he throws it where a reciever will be. Then a guy gives up on it, or is so old and slow he can't turn the corner WHILE HAVING THE INSIDE and the ball gets picked off. That's not on the QB at all.

The INTs late in the game were Rex's fault, but he had to throw those INTs. You're down by a few scores late, and no one is getting open. Take sacks and punt, or try to force a play. It didn't work and he gets blame for it, but I do take consideration he was in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. I like Rex, and he's clearly the most TALENTED QB on the roster. It might be time for a change.

I'm a Bears fan who wants his team to win a Super Bowl. Griese is horrible in big games. In the end if Griese tears it up I will support him. It's just that Rex gets blamed for everything and it's not fair.

I know Rex is not 100% to blame. The whole offense has taken a step back. Thomas Jones is sorely missed. The rock solid defense is beaten up and missing several key parts. I also don't have a lot of faith in Lovie or Ron.

It does seem that Rex bashing has been out of control for awhile, and I have played a part in that as well. As a football fan, he ticks me off because he doesn't get it at times. The last game of the season last year and he admits to not studying or taking the game seriously. What kind of attitude is that? Regardless of the game being important or not you owe it to your fans to give 100%, and he failed at that, and had a "oh well" attitude about it after the game.

He made me mad because you had a team that deserved to win a Super Bowl last year and he could have been the deciding factor in getting the team a LOMBARDI trophy. He was a big factor in that loss. The window for championships is so small that you shouldn't just take for granted you're getting back there the next year.

I guess the Bears will never catch the Pack, and they may add another one this year. ;)

[DMBZeppelin]

I also don't have a lot of faith in Lovie or Ron.
I agreed with just about everything you said. Ya they should have won the Super Bowl. Rex messed up when was in his hands to win the game. Though the defense shouldn't have blown that lead. Then the Bears could have just ran the ball.

Regardless, I'm happy someone sees Lovie and Ron might not be all that great. Lovie's system is great in that we can plug a lot of people in there and make them look good. The problem is with his system, is that he doesn't adjust. TO ran the SAME route in the middle of the field and Romo kept hitting him there. It was ridiculous.

Also Ron Turner is just a horrible play caller. Lovie needs to go out and get himself an offensive coordinator. One who adjust to attack what a defense will give him, and allows their QBs to audible at the line and change protections.

[bothedmbfan]

I like Lovie as our head coach. He does have a big problem making adjustments though.

[ChetUbetcha]

Trading TJ is turning out to be one huge mistake. But you can't blame Lovie. It was purely a $$$ move. Can't be paying all that money for a benchwarmer (Benson). Sounds exactly like something that old bitch McCaskey would do.

[SoRight24]

On behalf of the New York Jets, I'd like to thank the Bears for Thomas Jones.

:thumbsup ;)

[cbotnyse]

On behalf of the New York Jets, I'd like to thank the Bears for Thomas Jones.

:thumbsup ;)is he doing well over there? (I really havent followed)

[SoRight24]

is he doing well over there? (I really havent followed)

Well he was injured those first two weeks, so he was pretty much unproductive.

But last week he had over 100 yards. :thumbsup

[Ev42]

I think Rex is done with Da Bears

[bothedmbfan]

Me too. Thank God.

[DMBZeppelin]

Me too. Thank God.
Ya thank God the franchise is set back by 5 years. Thank GOD that the most talented QB on the roster since the 80's is done in Chicago. God forbid he succeed.

[bothedmbfan]

We were fucked this year anyways.

Maybe Orton can step up and be decent; but now we don't have to worry about resigning Rexy. Maybe a really good Qb will fall to us in the draft. Maybe Jesus Christ will come back from the dead, and play QB for us, with a few angels playing on the line around Fish. Maybe we can finally stay healthy. Who knows really.

[Ev42]

Ya thank God the franchise is set back by 5 years. Thank GOD that the most talented QB on the roster since the 80's is done in Chicago. God forbid he succeed.

he's done in the nfl. maybe a back up

[bothedmbfan]

STILL not too late to trade for Kurt.

(This way I can do the Jerry Lawler call from the Armageddon Hell in a Cell when Kurt Angle is all bloody and shit. Video coming soon, and the mark in which it happens so you don't have to watch Wrestling.)

[bothedmbfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXdoBFn_AvI

5:13

[DMBZeppelin]

he's done in the nfl. maybe a back up
You kidding? He threw 23 TD's last year, and has show he has a great arm. He's at worst a backup. When guys like Joey Harrington, Ken Dorsey, and even in the past Vinny and Flutie had backup jobs. Rex will go somewhere next year where he'll get a chance to compete for a job, or at worst be a backup. He also has the edge in that he's only 27.

[davehead86]

Rex is not done. 23 TD's in one season does not equate finished.



And I cant wait to see what everyone is saying when Griese has the same troubles starting as Rex did. Im sure they will find some way to say its not Grieses fault and he is much better than Grossman.

[DMBZeppelin]

Rex is not done. 23 TD's in one season does not equate finished.



And I cant wait to see what everyone is saying when Griese has the same troubles starting as Rex did. Im sure they will find some way to say its not Grieses fault and he is much better than Grossman.
Well maybe if Orton sucks too, people will finally say "I think this offense has some issues besides QB."

[Ev42]

You kidding? He threw 23 TD's last year, and has show he has a great arm. He's at worst a backup. When guys like Joey Harrington, Ken Dorsey, and even in the past Vinny and Flutie had backup jobs. Rex will go somewhere next year where he'll get a chance to compete for a job, or at worst be a backup. He also has the edge in that he's only 27.

he can be a back up but no way he will be a starter any time soon. the superbowl broke him

[jaking1185]

he can be a back up but no way he will be a starter any time soon. the superbowl broke him

He had it together for 1/2 a season. Then I think he believed the hype and he got snakebit thinking he was Brett Favre and could get away with being a gunslinger.

There's only one guy who can do that, and even he blows up from time to time. He almost has the INT record for a reason.

[davehead86]

No the superbowl didn't break him, it broke the defense and the offense, Grossman was the only one who was trying to get thing together. The defense didn't change, the offense continued to suck it up and forced Grossman to make some bad plays to try and catch up in the game.

I still hold that Ron Turner lost us the Superbowl, and the defensive coordinator (who thank god was replaced).

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3874


" The unit will need all healthy hands on deck Sunday in Detroit when it faces a Lions offense that leads the NFL with 1,036 passing yards. "


WTF ?!?!?!

They lead the league in passing yards ?!?!?!?!

I would have thought for sure that The Patriots or some other team had this stat owned so far this year.

Seriously, what the shit ?

[DMBZeppelin]

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3874


" The unit will need all healthy hands on deck Sunday in Detroit when it faces a Lions offense that leads the NFL with 1,036 passing yards. "


WTF ?!?!?!

They lead the league in passing yards ?!?!?!?!

I would have thought for sure that The Patriots or some other team had this stat owned so far this year.

Seriously, what the shit ?
That info is wrong.

Top 5 in Passing Yards
1. New England - 1,323
2. Dallas - 1,261
3. Detroit - 1,239
4. Indianapolis - 1,195
5. Cincinnati - 1,179

Bottom 5 in Rushing Yards
27a. Miami - 239
27b. New Orleans - 239
29. Detroit - 203
30. San Diego - 202
31. Kansas City - 192
32. Green Bay - 171

The Lions pass A LOT, but Kitna is an INT machine.

[Ev42]

No the superbowl didn't break him, it broke the defense and the offense, Grossman was the only one who was trying to get thing together. The defense didn't change, the offense continued to suck it up and forced Grossman to make some bad plays to try and catch up in the game.

I still hold that Ron Turner lost us the Superbowl, and the defensive coordinator (who thank god was replaced).

no it broke him he will never be the same IMO best of luck to him i just don't see him back with the bears. I'm not saying Brian or kyle are the answer but neither is Rex

[DMBZeppelin]

I don't know if any of you have ever heard the David Stein show. In Chicago it's on from like 12am-4am area on 670 the Score. It's aired nationally though. They talk about sports, but from different aspects.

Tonight was all about Rex. It wasn't about if he deserved to be bench or not. The point was to be past that. The show was about how much of it was Rex being a bad QB, and how much the mental strain. About how in the last decade no one has been more criticized then Rex, for on the field performance.

I agree with him there, the Rex hate is ridiculous. Anyone notice on MNF they showed since 2006 who's thrown the most INTs? He had the same as Kitna, and 2 more then Big Ben. Where's the hate for those two?

Anyways imagine if everywhere you went in town people told you suck. Think about what your job is. "Hey you're the worst waitress ever, you're the worst carpenter ever" ect. and the papers always bash you, and you're booed at home constantly. Remember in the playoffs last year? He was booed coming out of the tunnel. The fans were lowering his confidence before he even got on the field.

I'm sure you all know when you're afraid of messing up, you actually do mess up more. People started chanting "GRIESE! GRIESE!" when he threw a ball away on 3rd down because no one was open. So not only does he feel pressure to try to make something happen because they're losing later in the game. He feels the need to try and win over the fans.

[DMBZeppelin]

Holy crap, David Stein ended his show with my e-mail.

If anyone cares, here it is. I bolded the parts he read


I heard you mention earlier what it was like for his family to go to the games, but that you weren't sure.

Well besides the fact his wife got to watch her husband, and his parents, their son get booed coming out of the tunnel. Before he even gets to touch the ball he's already getting booed. They weren't booing poor performance, they were booing just to boo. It's been documented that his family gets harrassed at games by fans. Which I think is VERY classless. We shouldn't be tearing down his parents because we don't their son. I don't think his wife should have to sit there, and be verbally attacked because her husband plays a game.

People forget that in 2005 Rex almost single handidly help the Bears beat Carolina. The Bears defense did not show up for that game, and Grossman got off to a bad start. Still he pulled it together and they pulled it within 28-20 which was the final. They lost by one score, and earlier in 2005 it was assumed if the Bears score 20+ they win. Steve Smith tore them up, but all fans saw was "They didn't score enough."

In 2006 Rex won Player of the Month in Septemeber. He was considered an MVP candidate going for the first two months of the season. He was being mentioned with Peyton Manning. Then he struggled, and instead of getting support from the fans. They started booing him. He had 7 games of a QB Rating in 2006 with 100+ QB rating. That's second to Peyton Manning last year.

Grossman has serious talent, but he will never succeed with so many people against him. Because of all the national attention he gets. Most people label him as a bad QB. He's in a contract year, and if he walks to go somewhere else. People will see "(Team Name) has signed Rex Grossman." and be upset. They will probably boo him if he ever comes into a game for them. He may never get a chance to succeed anywhere due to negativity. It's quite sad he went from Heisman candidate, MVP consideration early in 2006 his first full year starting, to people saying he shouldn't be in the NFL.

[dre2142]

part of being a good athlete is overcoming criticism.

[webbo_5]

Good riddance. I can't deal with anymore Rex.

I don't have much faith in Griese either but the change was a must.

[webbo_5]

part of being a good athlete is overcoming criticism.

and actually being a good athlete more than 1/4 of the time.

[darbini]

He's overcome the criticism, but the criticism hasn't let up one bit. Last year was essentially his rookie year, and people want to crucify his ass because he's off to a bad start. They don't have a running game, his receivers aren't helping him, and the defense is hurting the team bad, especially with 5 starters out, a few gone for the year. Griese will start, but we'll see how that goes. Griese is a good in-betweener quarterback, but they should stick with Rex. Rex is obviously still young and has the potential to be a really good quarterback.

[dmbhoosier21]

part of being a good athlete is overcoming criticism.

Agreed. You just can't keep coming up with excuses for Rex. Every QB deals with criticism. Manning dealt with a legend of a father at QB and all the BS about being unable to win it all (plus he wasn't exactly Mr. Accurate in his rookie season). Although I'd have to agree that Rex probably dealt with a lot more criticism than most, but that's not an excuse; it can't be an excuse.

Talented - Sure. But he was unable to handle the pressure which is part of the job. That's not an excuse.

Does Rex deserve 100% of the blame - hell no; but QBs get more credit than they deserve (when their teams win) and more blame than they really deserve (when their team loses) - justified or not; it's just reality. It's the "nature" of being a QB.

I was actually rootin' for Rex - he's from the hoosier state.

Although I must say, Bears fans definitely can never be accused of being fair-weather fans.

[dmbhoosier21]

He's overcome the criticism, but the criticism hasn't let up one bit. Last year was essentially his rookie year, and people want to crucify his ass because he's off to a bad start. They don't have a running game, his receivers aren't helping him, and the defense is hurting the team bad, especially with 5 starters out, a few gone for the year. Griese will start, but we'll see how that goes. Griese is a good in-betweener quarterback, but they should stick with Rex. Rex is obviously still young and has the potential to be a really good quarterback.

Physically, I'd agree, but mentally? He hasn't shown he can handle the pressure.

[Dancing Ants]

Physically, I'd agree, but mentally? He hasn't shown he can handle the pressure.

agreed. that's the difference between Peyton Manning and Rex. Peyton continued to improve every year until he became the QB he is today. Rex is still the same Rex he was at the end of last year.

[cbotnyse]

Holy crap, David Stein ended his show with my e-mail.

If anyone cares, here it is. I bolded the parts he read


I heard you mention earlier what it was like for his family to go to the games, but that you weren't sure.

Well besides the fact his wife got to watch her husband, and his parents, their son get booed coming out of the tunnel. Before he even gets to touch the ball he's already getting booed. They weren't booing poor performance, they were booing just to boo. It's been documented that his family gets harrassed at games by fans. Which I think is VERY classless. We shouldn't be tearing down his parents because we don't their son. I don't think his wife should have to sit there, and be verbally attacked because her husband plays a game.

People forget that in 2005 Rex almost single handidly help the Bears beat Carolina. The Bears defense did not show up for that game, and Grossman got off to a bad start. Still he pulled it together and they pulled it within 28-20 which was the final. They lost by one score, and earlier in 2005 it was assumed if the Bears score 20+ they win. Steve Smith tore them up, but all fans saw was "They didn't score enough."

In 2006 Rex won Player of the Month in Septemeber. He was considered an MVP candidate going for the first two months of the season. He was being mentioned with Peyton Manning. Then he struggled, and instead of getting support from the fans. They started booing him. He had 7 games of a QB Rating in 2006 with 100+ QB rating. That's second to Peyton Manning last year.

Grossman has serious talent, but he will never succeed with so many people against him. Because of all the national attention he gets. Most people label him as a bad QB. He's in a contract year, and if he walks to go somewhere else. People will see "(Team Name) has signed Rex Grossman." and be upset. They will probably boo him if he ever comes into a game for them. He may never get a chance to succeed anywhere due to negativity. It's quite sad he went from Heisman candidate, MVP consideration early in 2006 his first full year starting, to people saying he shouldn't be in the NFL.:thumbsup pretty cool. nice work.

and I'm with you on Rex, sort of. I do not blame him for everything. With a aging line, and very bad recievers, its hard for him to succeed. I support the change at QB, but I am much more concerned about our banged up defense and the fact that (ignoring the QB position) we have no real threat on offense, at all.

[Dancing Ants]

Holy crap, David Stein ended his show with my e-mail.

If anyone cares, here it is. I bolded the parts he read


I heard you mention earlier what it was like for his family to go to the games, but that you weren't sure.

Well besides the fact his wife got to watch her husband, and his parents, their son get booed coming out of the tunnel. Before he even gets to touch the ball he's already getting booed. They weren't booing poor performance, they were booing just to boo. It's been documented that his family gets harrassed at games by fans. Which I think is VERY classless. We shouldn't be tearing down his parents because we don't their son. I don't think his wife should have to sit there, and be verbally attacked because her husband plays a game.

People forget that in 2005 Rex almost single handidly help the Bears beat Carolina. The Bears defense did not show up for that game, and Grossman got off to a bad start. Still he pulled it together and they pulled it within 28-20 which was the final. They lost by one score, and earlier in 2005 it was assumed if the Bears score 20+ they win. Steve Smith tore them up, but all fans saw was "They didn't score enough."

In 2006 Rex won Player of the Month in Septemeber. He was considered an MVP candidate going for the first two months of the season. He was being mentioned with Peyton Manning. Then he struggled, and instead of getting support from the fans. They started booing him. He had 7 games of a QB Rating in 2006 with 100+ QB rating. That's second to Peyton Manning last year.

Grossman has serious talent, but he will never succeed with so many people against him. Because of all the national attention he gets. Most people label him as a bad QB. He's in a contract year, and if he walks to go somewhere else. People will see "(Team Name) has signed Rex Grossman." and be upset. They will probably boo him if he ever comes into a game for them. He may never get a chance to succeed anywhere due to negativity. It's quite sad he went from Heisman candidate, MVP consideration early in 2006 his first full year starting, to people saying he shouldn't be in the NFL.

he has shown that he doesn't care enough to prepare for a game. like the New Year's game last year...he partied the night before. Or against Dallas this week, when they were on Dallas' 2 yd line, with Dallas in a dime defense and he didn't even have the wherewithal to audible to a run play. against a 1 LB formation! come on...how you support this guy I'll never know. It's not like he's shown he really cares anymore..

[cbotnyse]

he has shown that he doesn't care enough to prepare for a game. like the New Year's game last year...he partied the night before. Or against Dallas this week, when they were on Dallas' 2 yd line, with Dallas in a dime defense and he didn't even have the wherewithal to audible to a run play. against a 1 LB formation! come on...how you support this guy I'll never know. It's not like he's shown he really cares anymore..Its hard to say he doesnt care. He is in a contract year and playing for his job and he knows that...He's just not that good. :shrug

[DMBZeppelin]

Agreed. You just can't keep coming up with excuses for Rex. Every QB deals with criticism. Manning dealt with a legend of a father at QB and all the BS about being unable to win it all (plus he wasn't exactly Mr. Accurate in his rookie season). Although I'd have to agree that Rex probably dealt with a lot more criticism than most, but that's not an excuse; it can't be an excuse.

Talented - Sure. But he was unable to handle the pressure which is part of the job. That's not an excuse.

Does Rex deserve 100% of the blame - hell no; but QBs get more credit than they deserve (when their teams win) and more blame than they really deserve (when their team loses) - justified or not; it's just reality. It's the "nature" of being a QB.

I was actually rootin' for Rex - he's from the hoosier state.

Although I must say, Bears fans definitely can never be accused of being fair-weather fans.
Ok, but what Rex went through was NO WHERE near normal QB criticism. Like David Stein said, name a football player who took more criticism for on field performance then Rex in the last 10 years? You have no idea how much the Chicago media tore into this guy. If everyone kept telling me I sucked, I'd eventually be pretty down on myself.

Don't compare what Rex and Peyton went through. There's a difference between "You can win a big game." then "You can't play the QB position." No one ever doubted Peyton's ability to play the position. No started "SORGI! SORGI! SORGI!" chants because maybe he could beat the Pats.

It took a certain ammount of mental toughness for Rex to rehab a few year sin a row. Not every QB can come back from that. But to think you, or any other athlete could handle what Rex went through and succeed is just crazy. Rex delt with a better crowd on road games.
:thumbsup pretty cool. nice work.

and I'm with you on Rex, sort of. I do not blame him for everything. With a aging line, and very bad recievers, its hard for him to succeed. I support the change at QB, but I am much more concerned about our banged up defense and the fact that (ignoring the QB position) we have no real threat on offense, at all.
Well the point of the show like I said wasn't if Rex was good or bad. Just if you would succeed at your job if everyone was against you. He was asking about how the parents felt and what not. I remember reading articles about Bears fans verbally attacking them at the playoff games.

Honestly they booed him out of the tunnel last year. If you're getting booed right before you do something, how do you think you'll do? What if everyone instead of booing chanted "REX! REX! REX!" for once. He might feel pretty good like "Hey we can do this."
he has shown that he doesn't care enough to prepare for a game. like the New Year's game last year...he partied the night before. Or against Dallas this week, when they were on Dallas' 2 yd line, with Dallas in a dime defense and he didn't even have the wherewithal to audible to a run play. against a 1 LB formation! come on...how you support this guy I'll never know. It's not like he's shown he really cares anymore..
Rex screwed himself by being honest. Have you ever read the actual quote?

''In this league, especially at this position, you have to bring it every single week, no matter what, and the situation was I felt like I was going to play about a half, and it was the last game, it was New Year's Eve -- there were so many other factors that brought my focus away from what is actually important, and that's something that I am never going to do again.There is too much I am responsible for to not give it 100 percent during the week and just the full attention. It's another lesson.''

He NEVER said he was out partying the night before. The guy said he just wasn't focused. The guy spends a lot of time preparing for each game. He's always the first to Hallas Hall and the last to leave. Also the Bears don't audible. Even during the pre-season with other QB's WE DO NOT AUDIBLE. That's on Ron Turner, not Rex. We are a very simple offense, that doesn't make adjustments.

[SoMuchToSay_07]

I do feel kind of bad for the guy, constantly getting booed, and he's being criticized way more than any other QB I ever remember, but he's just not consistent enough, and has way too many turnovers.