Da Bears

[dmbhoosier21]

Ok, but what Rex went through was NO WHERE near normal QB criticism. Like David Stein said, name a football player who took more criticism for on field performance then Rex in the last 10 years? You have no idea how much the Chicago media tore into this guy. If everyone kept telling me I sucked, I'd eventually be pretty down on myself.

Don't compare what Rex and Peyton went through. There's a difference between "You can win a big game." then "You can't play the QB position." No one ever doubted Peyton's ability to play the position. No started "SORGI! SORGI! SORGI!" chants because maybe he could beat the Pats.

It took a certain ammount of mental toughness for Rex to rehab a few year sin a row. Not every QB can come back from that. But to think you, or any other athlete could handle what Rex went through and succeed is just crazy. Rex delt with a better crowd on road games.


Without a doubt Rex had it tougher than Manning. The amount of criticism and doubt Rex had to go through was intense.

That is a fact. It's also a fact that he folded like a cheapsuit - he couldn't handle the pressure; he has played poorly. The amount of pressure/critcism is part of being a pro-athlete and he couldn't handle it. It's not an excuse, nor will it ever be.

Also, Rex kind of had a part in bringing in all the criticism and doubt. When someone plays THAT inconsistently (from playing like a pro-bowler one week to a complete bum the next) that gets the attention of both the fans and natl. media.

Plus, trying to portray Rex as some sort of "victim" - playing against unsurmountable odds is hogwash.

I'd have to say athletes like Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, etc... now that was pressure that might have excused them from playing well (but it didn't)

Basically, pressure/criticism comes with being an athlete and is not an excuse for Rex or any other athlete.

[Ev42]

He's overcome the criticism, but the criticism hasn't let up one bit. Last year was essentially his rookie year, and people want to crucify his ass because he's off to a bad start. They don't have a running game, his receivers aren't helping him, and the defense is hurting the team bad, especially with 5 starters out, a few gone for the year. Griese will start, but we'll see how that goes. Griese is a good in-betweener quarterback, but they should stick with Rex. Rex is obviously still young and has the potential to be a really good quarterback.

bull shit stop saying that it was his 4th fucking year in the NFL. that is such a copout when people say it was essentially his first year

[Heavy As Stone]

bull shit stop saying that it was his 4th fucking year in the NFL. that is such a copout when people say it was essentially his first year

Wait a second... how much playing time did Rex get before last year? How many games did he start?

[Ev42]

Wait a second... how much playing time did Rex get before last year? How many games did he start?

i don't know 3 season but he did play it was not his first season

[Tiduwho]

Wait a second... how much playing time did Rex get before last year? How many games did he start?

People just want to delude themselves into believing that:

1.) Playing 3 games, then being injured and not being able to play and waiting an entire offseason...
2.) Then playing another 3 games, being injured and not being able to even step on a practice field for an entire year let alone gain actual experience...
3.) Then playing 2 preseason games and being injured and again not being able to even step onto a practice field for an entire year let alone get actual NFL experience...

...Is the same thing as starting 6 consecutive games that each built off of each other combined with the regular seasoning a quarterback would get practice over 3 years (like Tony Romo for example). As if being on crutches and looking at books is the same thing as running an offense in practice every day and learning how an NFL defense adjusts and what those adjustments look like.

Oh, and let's not forget that each year that he wasn't even able to step onto the practice field he "should have at least been able to learn the playbook after 3 years"....except for the part where it was a different offensive coordinator and different playbook for 4 straight years in a row with Rex.

:rolleyes

[Heavy As Stone]

People just want to delude themselves into believing that:

1.) Playing 3 games, then being injured and not being able to play and waiting an entire offseason...
2.) Then playing another 3 games, being injured and not being able to even step on a practice field for an entire year let alone gain actual experience...
3.) Then playing 2 preseason games and being injured and again not being able to even step onto a practice field for an entire year let alone get actual NFL experience...

...Is the same thing as starting 6 consecutive games that each built off of each other combined with the regular seasoning a quarterback would get practice over 3 years (like Tony Romo for example). As if being on crutches and looking at books is the same thing as running an offense in practice every day and learning how an NFL defense adjusts and what those adjustments look like.

Oh, and let's not forget that each year that he wasn't even able to step onto the practice field he "should have at least been able to learn the playbook after 3 years"....except for the part where it was a different offensive coordinator and different playbook for 4 straight years in a row with Rex.

:rolleyes

Exactly. Thats why I feel bad for him. Ideally, I'd like to see the bears put someone else in, and make him a backup for a season or two, then get him back in. He would hit the ground running. Either that or cut him loose and let another team pick him up. There has to be a coach out there somewhere who sees the situation for what it is and will give him a shot. Besides, the situation in Chicago is just not good for him right now. He can't build up any confidence at all, let alone run an offense.

[Ev42]

People just want to delude themselves into believing that:

1.) Playing 3 games, then being injured and not being able to play and waiting an entire offseason...
2.) Then playing another 3 games, being injured and not being able to even step on a practice field for an entire year let alone gain actual experience...
3.) Then playing 2 preseason games and being injured and again not being able to even step onto a practice field for an entire year let alone get actual NFL experience...

...Is the same thing as starting 6 consecutive games that each built off of each other combined with the regular seasoning a quarterback would get practice over 3 years (like Tony Romo for example). As if being on crutches and looking at books is the same thing as running an offense in practice every day and learning how an NFL defense adjusts and what those adjustments look like.

Oh, and let's not forget that each year that he wasn't even able to step onto the practice field he "should have at least been able to learn the playbook after 3 years"....except for the part where it was a different offensive coordinator and different playbook for 4 straight years in a row with Rex.

:rolleyes

point is he is NOT A ROOKIE

[Styx Cover Band]

Exactly. Thats why I feel bad for him. Ideally, I'd like to see the bears put someone else in, and make him a backup for a season or two, then get him back in. He would hit the ground running. Either that or cut him loose and let another team pick him up. There has to be a coach out there somewhere who sees the situation for what it is and will give him a shot. Besides, the situation in Chicago is just not good for him right now. He can't build up any confidence at all, let alone run an offense.

I heard they are bringing back Henry Burris to start next week (and only because PT Willis turned down an offer).

:lol Sorry, I couldn't resist

[jaking1185]

point is he is NOT A ROOKIE

You are right. Despite the injuries he had more than enough time to become a better QB. He was regressing (yes I know about the O line, WR's not running good routes) and the team had to do something to try and save the season. I think he is done in Chicago.

If he gets one more chance with another team I foresee the same inconsistant Rex as always. After that there can be no defending him, no matter how much you believe in him.

[BotheDMBFan]

Kurt....Kurt.

[jaking1185]

Kurt....Kurt.

With Leinart struggling, he isn't going anywhere.

[BotheDMBFan]

With Leinart struggling, he isn't going anywhere.

And I know it. Fucking sucks.

[jaking1185]

And I know it. Fucking sucks.

The Bears could use Fitzgerald and Boldin too.

[Ev42]

You are right. Despite the injuries he had more than enough time to become a better QB. He was regressing (yes I know about the O line, WR's not running good routes) and the team had to do something to try and save the season. I think he is done in Chicago.

If he gets one more chance with another team I foresee the same inconsistant Rex as always. After that there can be no defending him, no matter how much you believe in him.

can't believe i'm agree with a packer fan but i agree 100%

[BotheDMBFan]

The Bears could use Fitzgerald and Boldin too.

Yeah.

[Tiduwho]

point is he is NOT A ROOKIE

No, you must have missed the point. The point was that, essientially, he was.


Year 1: Welcome to the NFL. New system to learn, sit on bench til end of season. Start 2 games, very very vanilla offense, basically handing off the ball. 3rd game injured. Offseason: New coordinator. Back to Square one.

Year 2: Start 2 games, a new offense, vanilla variety. Game 3, take the chains off a few plays...and then season ending injury. No participation in any practices. Offseason: New coordinator. New playbook. No time to get acquainted with any system. Back to Square one.

Year 3: Practice a bit, start a quarter in the first preseason game handing the ball off. Second preason game, season ending injury. No participation in any practices until late in the year. Come in late in the season, turn up the heat a few games with the 31st ranked offense out of nowhere. Loss in the playoffs due to bad defense. The rest is history.


Going into his 4th year, was he an exact rookie? No. But in terms of experience within the NFL he was. Because he didn't get ANY experience, not even practice experience with his injuries, and any time he was able to hold together for two games he would start over from square one the very next year with a new offense, and a new coordinator.

While Tony Romo was on the bench in Dallas, he could study up on the offense, play it out in practice, and learn the system standing up. Rex never had the chance to until last year. He didn't know the first thing about defensive adjustments that an NFL Defensive Coordinator could throw at him. Each year he started over at Square one and his few minutes of experience earned that season were wiped clean.

"Oh yeah, of course I remember what it feels like to have a linebacker come on a delayed blitz and how to adjust to it. I mean...I saw it once an entire year ago...and haven't been on the field since...you bet I'm an expert at it." :rolleyes


The change needed to be made, for the sake of change. But to say Rex had a fair shot for extended success in the NFL is foolhardy.

[jaking1185]

can't believe i'm agree with a packer fan but i agree 100%

Even though you're a Bears fan I don't hold it against you. ;)

I enjoy discussing football with Bears fans because they, for the most part, know what they are talking about when it comes to the NFL.

If I want to talk to band-wagon people, I'll talk to Pats fans. :D

[jaking1185]

The change needed to be made, for the sake of change. But to say Rex had a fair shot for extended success in the NFL is foolhardy.

Maybe he didn't. The good first 1/2 half last year may have actually hurt him. If he was still progressing at a nice speed he'd still be the QB. Because he did well and then took steps backward he lost his job.

[DMBZeppelin]

I'll check it out when I get home, because I'm currently at school. But did anyone see the Tribune article on Rex? I guess they got opinions from 5 defensive coordinators from around the league on Rex's year thus far.

[Tiduwho]

Even though you're a Bears fan I don't hold it against you. ;)

I enjoy discussing football with Bears fans because they, for the most part, know what they are talking about when it comes to the NFL.

If I want to talk to band-wagon people, I'll talk to Pats fans. :D

Not gonna lie...never met a Pats fan in my life until 2001. I mean, I didn't even know any in '96 against the Pack. I just knew that the Bears Clownstomped them in '85 and there hadn't been so much as a whiff of "New England, the Patriots are we...we'll beat the Bears 100 to 3!" fandom around since.

[BotheDMBFan]

Same here.

[Tiduwho]

Maybe he didn't. The good first 1/2 half last year may have actually hurt him. If he was still progressing at a nice speed he'd still be the QB. Because he did well and then took steps backward he lost his job.

Nah, what really hurt him the most is that he was playing for a Super Bowl caliber team. Had he been healthy those down years, he'd have gotten more than a fair shot at working out the kinks.

[BotheDMBFan]

Maybe, but as the man said himself "shit happens."

[Ev42]

Rex Is Not A Rookie and if you think he is your crazy or in denial. He is done with the bears and i could care less

[DMBZeppelin]

point is he is NOT A ROOKIE
Right, you can't be a rookie unless it's your first year. I get the term rookie. He was rookie-esque in experiance though, and you can't deny that. When Rex came into the league he had OUTSTANDING pocket presence. People actually compared him to Marino, in that he wasn't fast but he moved around well in the pocket and could sense pressure.

After he came back from the injury in 2005, I've yet to see that exact same Rex. Though he still has the arm to make ALL of the throws. He was rehabbing more then studying film. When you're on crutches you can't put pressure on your legs. He couldn't even practice his mechanics. He would go a year without even throwing the ball.

When a pitcher, golfer, ect. takes a long time off it effects their mechanics. Drew Henson would have been a top NFL draft pick had he stuck with the sport. Rex was with the sport, but like Henson he wasn't doing anything in it for long periods of time. Rex worked on muscle memory, and getting his mechanics (which broke down at times last year) back to second nature.

His mechanics were fine, I saw signs of the pocket presence from 03' and 04' Rex. He was headed in the right direction. This offense isn't though. Do you remember 2005? We had Orton in, and EVERYONE knew we wouldn't win a playoff game with him. When Rex came in people started thinking SUPER BOWL! WE HAVE A PASSING GAME!

Last year no one doubted we had a passing game, when's the last time that happened? It was just a matter of not turning over the ball.

[jaking1185]

Nah, what really hurt him the most is that he was playing for a Super Bowl caliber team. Had he been healthy those down years, he'd have gotten more than a fair shot at working out the kinks.

You may be right. I guess we'll never know.

[DMBZeppelin]

You may be right. I guess we'll never know.
You serious? Wow, put Steve Young from Tampa Bay at the helm of the Patriots right now. Put Brett Favre who was disliked by Green Bay and wanted Mark Brunell to start at the helm of a winning team. They would have all been benched. The reason people are so hard on Rex is that he's an inexperianced QB on a winning team. The only problem is, no one thought we were a Super Bowl team TILL we had Rex as our QB.

[ShotgunDMB]

the bears whole offense lacks playmakers. Moose is getting old. And he isn't explosive. Barrian is mehhh....Benson is good, but not explosive. Grossman sucks. Griese is nothing more than a stop gap starter.

[Tiduwho]

You may be right. I guess we'll never know.

Not that this is a town that is easy on it's rookie QB's or anything (See: Cade McNown), but they would have been more accepting of turnovers and growing pains were there not a Super Bowl on the line. But it's true, we'll never know what could have been in that situation.

[PipeandaCrepe]

its about time they benched him

[jaking1185]

You serious? Wow, put Steve Young from Tampa Bay at the helm of the Patriots right now. Put Brett Favre who was disliked by Green Bay and wanted Mark Brunell to start at the helm of a winning team. They would have all been benched. The reason people are so hard on Rex is that he's an inexperianced QB on a winning team. The only problem is, no one thought we were a Super Bowl team TILL we had Rex as our QB.

But that's just it. What if Rex had not gotten hurt all those times. He could have developed into a good QB, or he could have just washed out earlier. We will never know, and we all have our opinions on which Rex that would have been.

[DMBZeppelin]

But that's just it. What if Rex had not gotten hurt all those times. He could have developed into a good QB, or he could have just washed out earlier. We will never know, and we all have our opinions on which Rex that would have been.
Ah, so you're saying Grossman is a bust and will never get another shot? I disagree, he's 27 and worse QB's have gotten backup roles. I 100% believe Rex could EASILY beat out a Ken Dorsey, Seneca Wallace, or Charlie Frye.

[jaking1185]

Ah, so you're saying Grossman is a bust and will never get another shot? I disagree, he's 27 and worse QB's have gotten backup roles. I 100% believe Rex could EASILY beat out a Ken Dorsey, Seneca Wallace, or Charlie Frye.

Sure, he could get another job. But my feeling is that he will be the same old Rexy.

Maybe with the right team and situation he could be ok, but I doubt it.

[DMBZeppelin]

Sure, he could get another job. But my feeling is that he will be the same old Rexy.

Maybe with the right team and situation he could be ok, but I doubt it.
He continues to improve, and is a better QB this year then he was last year. Why are you down on him so much? He has the talent, he's putting the work in. He just needs to get into a situation where everything clicks.

Terry Bradshaw was Grossman Sr., Steve Young was a bust in Tampa, Brett Favre's first 5 passes in Atlanta were INTs and the whole coaching staff voted to have him benced for Brunell. No one was ever sure why Holmgren decided to stick with Favre, Drew Brees was CONSTANTLY benched for Doug Flutie and considered a bust. I don't get why it would be so shocking to you if the guy with the live arm one day succeeded?

If it makes you feel any better. The Bears saved you a head ache. The Packers in 2003 were trying like CRAZY to trade up and get Grossman. Your scouting director at the time, who was one of the top guys in the league. Said Grossman was the closest thing to Favre he'd ever seen. Since no one knew he'd play this long. Green Bay wanted him to be the heir to Brett.

[jaking1185]

He continues to improve, and is a better QB this year then he was last year. Why are you down on him so much? He has the talent, he's putting the work in. He just needs to get into a situation where everything clicks.

Terry Bradshaw was Grossman Sr., Steve Young was a bust in Tampa, Brett Favre's first 5 passes in Atlanta were INTs and the whole coaching staff voted to have him benced for Brunell. No one was ever sure why Holmgren decided to stick with Favre, Drew Brees was CONSTANTLY benched for Doug Flutie and considered a bust. I don't get why it would be so shocking to you if the guy with the live arm one day succeeded?

If it makes you feel any better. The Bears saved you a head ache. The Packers in 2003 were trying like CRAZY to trade up and get Grossman. Your scouting director at the time, who was one of the top guys in the league. Said Grossman was the closest thing to Favre he'd ever seen. Since no one knew he'd play this long. Green Bay wanted him to be the heir to Brett.

I just see him as another in the long line of bad Bears QB's, but the talent of the team around him got him to the Super Bowl. Did he play a part in that, yeah, but not as much as you might feel he did.

I just don't have any faith in him. If you do then I give you respect for believing so strongly.

There were times when I wanted to strangle Brett in the beginning, and I did wonder what Holmgren was thinking, but they proved me wrong.

Could Rex have developed like Brett? Maybe, but you also have to realize that the Bears do not have the equivalent of Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren and Reggie White around to help with the development of Rex.

As far as the draft I will have to look into that. If that's true I do owe the Bears many thanks for taking him off the board.

Edit: I owe the Bears a double. You took Rex and we ended up with Nick Barnett. Thanks again!

[davehead86]

I have very mixed feelings about Rex being benched. i truley believe that our Offense is in shambles and its not solely because of Rex. Then again he is doing atrocious this year, Griese aitn gonna do any better and if fuckin Ron Turner lets Griese throw the ball all day I am going to scream.

[DMBZeppelin]

On Sports Center they talked about the QB switch. Lovie told Griese that he doesn't have to play like a Hall of Famer. That he doesn't have to look over his shoulder, and he'll be given every chance to prove what he can do.

Ok if anyone cares, here's some quote from various NFL people:

- "Griese has been in the position everybody loves to be in," one NFC personnel man said. "If he has to play for an extended period of time, everybody might be hollering for the other guy. Griese is smart and heady, but he doesn't have a strong arm. He won't do a lot to open up the running game."

- "Maybe they'll be initially better with Griese, but not necessarily long term. He can give them a spark, anyway."

- "I think they'll get better with Griese by playing to the strength of the team, which is their defense," said a defensive coordinator who has faced the Bears. "They'll let him manage the game, which Grossman didn't do well. They'll run the ball and run play-action."

- "Grossman's ability to take care of the ball is the issue," the defensive coordinator said. "He takes some chances sometimes that you don't want him to take."

- A second defensive coordinator had a different perspective on Grossman. "The QB is not at fault; they can't protect him," he said. "We thought Grossman was as tough as we've seen the last few years. The kid was trying to survive. He just got his butt kicked over the last three games. Both their tackles are struggling. Griese is going to get a rude welcome."

[davehead86]

On Sports Center they talked about the QB switch. Lovie told Griese that he doesn't have to play like a Hall of Famer. That he doesn't have to look over his shoulder, and he'll be given every chance to prove what he can do.

Ok if anyone cares, here's some quote from various NFL people:

- "Griese has been in the position everybody loves to be in," one NFC personnel man said. "If he has to play for an extended period of time, everybody might be hollering for the other guy. Griese is smart and heady, but he doesn't have a strong arm. He won't do a lot to open up the running game."

- "Maybe they'll be initially better with Griese, but not necessarily long term. He can give them a spark, anyway."

- "I think they'll get better with Griese by playing to the strength of the team, which is their defense," said a defensive coordinator who has faced the Bears. "They'll let him manage the game, which Grossman didn't do well. They'll run the ball and run play-action."

- "Grossman's ability to take care of the ball is the issue," the defensive coordinator said. "He takes some chances sometimes that you don't want him to take."

- A second defensive coordinator had a different perspective on Grossman. "The QB is not at fault; they can't protect him," he said. "We thought Grossman was as tough as we've seen the last few years. The kid was trying to survive. He just got his butt kicked over the last three games. Both their tackles are struggling. Griese is going to get a rude welcome."

I really think this is gonna happen. And Rex looks PISSSED right now. Hopefully he gets his chance to say fuck you guys and show them what he really has got to offer like he did last year.
As much as I am disappointed with his performance this year, there is something wrong with him, i really think he needs this kick in the balls.

[Ev42]

On Sports Center they talked about the QB switch. Lovie told Griese that he doesn't have to play like a Hall of Famer. That he doesn't have to look over his shoulder, and he'll be given every chance to prove what he can do.

Ok if anyone cares, here's some quote from various NFL people:

- "Griese has been in the position everybody loves to be in," one NFC personnel man said. "If he has to play for an extended period of time, everybody might be hollering for the other guy. Griese is smart and heady, but he doesn't have a strong arm. He won't do a lot to open up the running game."

- "Maybe they'll be initially better with Griese, but not necessarily long term. He can give them a spark, anyway."

- "I think they'll get better with Griese by playing to the strength of the team, which is their defense," said a defensive coordinator who has faced the Bears. "They'll let him manage the game, which Grossman didn't do well. They'll run the ball and run play-action."

- "Grossman's ability to take care of the ball is the issue," the defensive coordinator said. "He takes some chances sometimes that you don't want him to take."

- A second defensive coordinator had a different perspective on Grossman. "The QB is not at fault; they can't protect him," he said. "We thought Grossman was as tough as we've seen the last few years. The kid was trying to survive. He just got his butt kicked over the last three games. Both their tackles are struggling. Griese is going to get a rude welcome."



totally agree but it had to be done. when the whole stadium is chanting Grises something has to be done. i hope we draft a QB the first day next draft. this is how life goes sometimes

[BotheDMBFan]

Juice Williams for the 09 Draft!

[BotheDMBFan]

Actually; Let's draft a line in the next draft, and THEN get Juice Williams in 09, because he is going to be one of the greatest QBs of all time.

[darbini]

The Bears would've never made the super bowl had it not been for Grossman

[Ev42]

The Bears would've never made the super bowl had it not been for Grossman

IMO i say yes they would have

[darbini]

bull shit stop saying that it was his 4th fucking year in the NFL. that is such a copout when people say it was essentially his first year


it was essentially his first year:thumbsup

[Ev42]

it was essentially his first year:thumbsup

NO it was not why do people continue to use that excuse. who really gives a crap he is most likely done with chicago

[darbini]

I give a crap because I'm a Bears fan and a Rex fan. I'm sure they would've beat Seatle in overtime 27-24 with Kyle 'neck beard' Orton. Hopefully Chicago doesn't get rid of him or let him go, that would be a stupid mistake. He'll learn more patience by watching Griese, but Rex is a competitor and just wants to do good, that's why he is the best fit for the Bears.

[UNC41]

I give a crap because I'm a Bears fan and a Rex fan. I'm sure they would've beat Seatle in overtime 27-24 with Kyle 'neck beard' Orton. Hopefully Chicago doesn't get rid of him or let him go, that would be a stupid mistake. He'll learn more patience by watching Griese, but Rex is a competitor and just wants to do good, that's why he is the best fit for the Bears.

Do you honestly think there's a chance Rex will want to come back and play for the team who benched him for a mediocre journeyman and whose fan base has booed him, ripped him and used him as a scapegoat?

[davehead86]

The Bears would've never made the super bowl had it not been for Grossman

Tis the truth. Kyle Orton and Griese sure as hell wouldnt have thrown for 23 TD's.

Do you honestly think there's a chance Rex will want to come back and play for the team who benched him for a mediocre journeyman and whose fan base has booed him, ripped him and used him as a scapegoat?

Maybe he can find some drive in that and prove everyone wrong, or maybe he will just get traded out, no one knows.

[41ravens]

Actually; Let's draft a line in the next draft, and THEN get Juice Williams in 09, because he is going to be one of the greatest QBs of all time.

juuuuuuuuuuuice!!!

people love that guy around here.

[41ravens]

Tis the truth. Kyle Orton and Griese sure as hell wouldnt have thrown for 23 TD's.



Maybe he can find some drive in that and prove everyone wrong, or maybe he will just get traded out, no one knows.

i vote neither seeing as that his contract is up at the end of this year. someone will pick him up, though.

[cbotnyse]

Do you honestly think there's a chance Rex will want to come back and play for the team who benched him for a mediocre journeyman and whose fan base has booed him, ripped him and used him as a scapegoat?the same morons who always boo him will be chanting for him if Griese and Orton both fall on their faces too.

I personally think he will is done in Chicago, but someone will pick him up as a backup.

[kurz41]

juuuuuuuuuuuice!!!

people love that guy around here.
How can they not?! I'm sure football is a lot more exciting down there this year!

[darbini]

Do you honestly think there's a chance Rex will want to come back and play for the team who benched him for a mediocre journeyman and whose fan base has booed him, ripped him and used him as a scapegoat?

Yes. Almost every quarterback in the league has gone through the same thing at one time or the other. Bears fans are just overly anxious to go 16-0 and have the offensive and defensive MVP's on their team, and that's great, I hope so to. It just isn't fair to Rex with all the other bullcrap that's going on with the team right now. 5-7 defensive players out(which would help the offense tremendously), there is virtually no running game, the receivers are too slow and sloppy(they need to step it up), etc. I'm anxious to see what happens this weekend, and I hope the Bears keep Rex.

[DMBZeppelin]

Yes. Almost every quarterback in the league has gone through the same thing at one time or the other.
No one has had it as bad as Rex. Lets say the next game was at home instead of @ Detroit. If Brian Griese got hurt and Rex came in. People would boo like crazy. Usually the backup is the most popular guy in town.

Only way it can get better for Rex is if Brian Griese totaly blows, and gets hurt. Then Rex needs to come in, and get hurt where he'll just miss the rest of the game. Then Orton needs to come in and show why he's 3rd string. Once people see Rex is the best option, they'll stop booing.

[UNC41]

Yes. Almost every quarterback in the league has gone through the same thing at one time or the other. Bears fans are just overly anxious to go 16-0 and have the offensive and defensive MVP's on their team, and that's great, I hope so to. It just isn't fair to Rex with all the other bullcrap that's going on with the team right now. 5-7 defensive players out(which would help the offense tremendously), there is virtually no running game, the receivers are too slow and sloppy(they need to step it up), etc. I'm anxious to see what happens this weekend, and I hope the Bears keep Rex.

Very few quarterbacks currently have been scrutinized and bashed as much as Rex has been the past couple years.

[kurz41]

Very few quarterbacks currently have been scrutinized and bashed as much as Rex has been the past couple years.
All black QB's do, though. :rolleyes

[dmbhoosier21]

You serious? Wow, put Steve Young from Tampa Bay at the helm of the Patriots right now. Put Brett Favre who was disliked by Green Bay and wanted Mark Brunell to start at the helm of a winning team. They would have all been benched. The reason people are so hard on Rex is that he's an inexperianced QB on a winning team. The only problem is, no one thought we were a Super Bowl team TILL we had Rex as our QB.

I think this was ultimately the main factor in Rex being benched. Not only was he on a "winning" team, he was on a SB contending team.

Other "inexperienced" QBs were able to "grow/mature" and progress with their team, Rex did not have that luxury. He was on a contender who could not afford the "growing pains" of a relatively inexperienced QB. Rex just could not handle that pressure.

He'll definitely catch on with another team, and he'll get another shot down the line, IMO.

[Tiduwho]

If Rex stays on the bench, there's not a chance in hell he'll come back next year. I would personally say "Fuck Chicago" if I were him and I hope he has success elsewhere. In my opinion, A-Rod should do the same thing to New York for all the crap they gave him before this year.

[Tiduwho]

Brian Griese......Bill Lumbergh?

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2007/09/confirmed-brian.html

[Ev42]

Brian Griese......Bill Lumbergh?

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2007/09/confirmed-brian.html

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[webbo_5]

If Rex stays on the bench, there's not a chance in hell he'll come back next year. I would personally say "Fuck Chicago" if I were him and I hope he has success elsewhere. In my opinion, A-Rod should do the same thing to New York for all the crap they gave him before this year.

Rex can say "fuck Chicago" all he wants, won't change the fact that he plays quarterback like a fucking moron.

[Ev42]

Rex can say "fuck Chicago" all he wants, won't change the fact that he plays quarterback like a fucking moron.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[crashintonickdm]

you'll have donovan mcnabb next season.

[Tiduwho]

you'll have donovan mcnabb next season.

I've wanted him for years. :multi


But Philly won't let him go if he plays well the rest of the year.

[Ev42]

you'll have donovan mcnabb next season.

i can only hope

[DMBZeppelin]

Part of a blog on ESPN: http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3038451&name=nfl_nfc

In talking with someone in the Bears organization, I was told that the team had also restricted what Grossman could do in terms of calling audibles at the line this season. In most instances, it's the backup who has more restrictions then the starter. That will not be the case this week as Griese will be given more authority to change things at the line of scrimmage than Grossman had. This will get the Bears out of bad plays and give them a better opportunity to succeed on early downs.
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I just thought that was crap, it's like they set him up to fail. I just hope that if Griese bombs fast, in which case I don't think they'll go to Rex. That I hope Orton doesn't have Rex-like restrictions too.

[Ev42]

Part of a blog on ESPN: http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3038451&name=nfl_nfc

In talking with someone in the Bears organization, I was told that the team had also restricted what Grossman could do in terms of calling audibles at the line this season. In most instances, it's the backup who has more restrictions then the starter. That will not be the case this week as Griese will be given more authority to change things at the line of scrimmage than Grossman had. This will get the Bears out of bad plays and give them a better opportunity to succeed on early downs.
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I just thought that was crap, it's like they set him up to fail. I just hope that if Griese bombs fast, in which case I don't think they'll go to Rex. That I hope Orton doesn't have Rex-like restrictions too.

hmm maybe they don't trust him.

[BotheDMBFan]

juuuuuuuuuuuice!!!

people love that guy around here.

That's because he's the best.

[ChetUbetcha]

That's because he's the best.

Just wondering, what's the deal with you liking all Illinois teams being from Cali?

[BotheDMBFan]

Just wondering, what's the deal with you liking all Illinois teams being from Cali?

I lived in Illinois for 10 years.

I'm also going to go to U of I after I spend two year stint at Parkland College.

[ChetUbetcha]

I lived in Illinois for 10 years.

I'm also going to go to U of I after I spend two year stint at Parkland College.

Ah, :thumbsup.

But unfortunately Juice Williams sucks...

[BotheDMBFan]

Ah, :thumbsup.

But unfortunately Juice Williams sucks...

You commie bastard!

[ChetUbetcha]

You commie bastard!

:lol

Something tells me that having the name "Juice" gives you an edge with the fans, even if your skills don't back up the Juice.

[BotheDMBFan]

:lol

Something tells me that having the name "Juice" gives you an edge with the fans, even if your skills don't back up the Juice.

Juice will be the best ever. Write it down. (Don't say that I said it though...unless I end up being right...)

[ChetUbetcha]

Is there a college football thread up in here anywhere? This USF/WVU game is discussion worthy.

[BotheDMBFan]

Is there a college football thread up in here anywhere? This USF/WVU game is discussion worthy.

USF if WVU's kryptonite.

[ChetUbetcha]

Eh. I'd like to see them throw in Noel Devine as the 1st and 2nd down guy for the rest of the night...see what happens. Slaton just ain't having any luck tonight.

[BotheDMBFan]

Eh. I'd like to see them throw in Noel Devine as the 1st and 2nd down guy for the rest of the night...see what happens. Slaton just ain't having any luck tonight.

I haven't been paying too much attention to the game itself(It's been mostly Cubbies and Brew Crew right now)

[Ev42]

I haven't been paying too much attention to the game itself(It's been mostly Cubbies and Brew Crew right now)

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[ChetUbetcha]

Noel Devine for 37 yards......called it. TYVM.


Edit -- and....the new guy fucks it up. Great.

[BotheDMBFan]

Divine is fucking amazing.

[ChetUbetcha]

Yeah. Too bad he's only 5' 8. He may go down as one of the greatest college running backs ever if he stays out of trouble. But he won't be able to do much in the pros.

[Ev42]

Yeah. Too bad he's only 5' 8. He may go down as one of the greatest college running backs ever if he stays out of trouble. But he won't be able to do much in the pros.

Why :confused

[BotheDMBFan]

Why :confused

Too small.

[Ev42]

fuck that how tall was Barry Sanders

[DMBZeppelin]

fuck that how tall was Barry Sanders
Noel Devine: 5'8" 170 Pounds *only recently 19, will add weight as he gets into his 20's.

Other RB's not 6 feet tall:
Garrett Wolfe: 5'7" 177 Pounds *Rookie
Barry Sanders: 5'8" 200 Pounds
Emmitt Smith: 5'9" 212 Pounds
Warrick Dunn: 5'9" 180 Pounds
Walter Payton: 5'10" 200 Pounds
Reggie Bush: 5'11" 200 Pounds
Terrell Davis: 5'11" 210 Pounds

Wolfe is only on this list to show there's someone smaller then Noel in the NFL. Dunn is only on there because he's been a successful NFL RB, while not great but was small. Bush hasn't proven much, but he was bigger then Walter Payton.

[BotheDMBFan]

Garrett Wolfe is the best RB we have.

[ChetUbetcha]

You know the Bears are in trouble when...

http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/orton.jpg

That man is being discussed amongst possible quarterback options.

[davehead86]

So Im in Cali and cant watch the game. Anyone wanna tell me how Griese is living up to his potential.

[Ev42]

Noel Devine: 5'8" 170 Pounds *only recently 19, will add weight as he gets into his 20's.

Other RB's not 6 feet tall:
Garrett Wolfe: 5'7" 177 Pounds *Rookie
Barry Sanders: 5'8" 200 Pounds
Emmitt Smith: 5'9" 212 Pounds
Warrick Dunn: 5'9" 180 Pounds
Walter Payton: 5'10" 200 Pounds
Reggie Bush: 5'11" 200 Pounds
Terrell Davis: 5'11" 210 Pounds

Wolfe is only on this list to show there's someone smaller then Noel in the NFL. Dunn is only on there because he's been a successful NFL RB, while not great but was small. Bush hasn't proven much, but he was bigger then Walter Payton.

Thank you that guy that said he would do nothing is a dumb shit

[BotheDMBFan]

We. Suck. Dick.

[cbotnyse]

So Im in Cali and cant watch the game. Anyone wanna tell me how Griese is living up to his potential.our recievers still blow, but Griese isnt doing anything special so far.

[jaking1185]

We. Suck. Dick.

I would have put it nicer, but.....

[Ev42]

So Im in Cali and cant watch the game. Anyone wanna tell me how Griese is living up to his potential.

he looks like a guy who has not played a game in two years. and Benson looks like a waste of a a draft pick if Rex was benched i don't see why benson get to keep his:confused

[BotheDMBFan]

he looks like a guy who has not played a game in two years. and Benson looks like a waste of a a draft pick if Rex was benched i don't see why benson get to keep his:confused

Becuz his teh 4urth rnd dreft peck~!

[Ev42]

We. Suck. Dick.

are O sucks dick. D pretty good so far

[jaking1185]

he looks like a guy who has not played a game in two years. and Benson looks like a waste of a a draft pick if Rex was benched i don't see why benson get to keep his:confused

I think Benson is the next one to hit the pines.

[Ev42]

our recievers still blow, but Griese isnt doing anything special so far.

agree. And Benson is the biggest waste ever

[Ev42]

I think Benson is the next one to hit the pines.

He better be. than that heap of shit the bears call an O Line.

Ok here it is REX was not the problem i apologize and feel sorry for the guy

[BotheDMBFan]

Garrett Wolfe will make it all better bitches.

[Ev42]

Becuz his teh 4urth rnd dreft peck~!

Fuck that he sucks monkey balls

[cbotnyse]

Ok here it is REX was not the problem i apologize and feel sorry for the guytrue.

[davehead86]

He better be. than that heap of shit the bears call an O Line.

Ok here it is REX was not the problem i apologize and feel sorry for the guy

That right there tells me everything I need to know. Thanx.



I hope they put Rex back in and get this O Line straight.

[BotheDMBFan]

Fuck that he sucks monkey balls

I was being facetious.

[Ev42]

true.

i will give him props for never selling out the shit he had around him. Namely O line, Benson, Berrian they all suck

[Ev42]

That right there tells me everything I need to know. Thanx.



I hope they put Rex back in and get this O Line straight.


i was so wrong it was not even funny. Rex should get another shot

[BotheDMBFan]

i will give him props for never selling out the shit he had around him. Namely O line, Benson, Berrian they all suck

He knows he'd get murdered for it by the media if he did.

[Ev42]

He knows he'd get murdered for it by the media if he did.

True. i like seeing Garret out there he's a tough runner. Moose that what i like to see

[jaking1185]

i was so wrong it was not even funny. Rex should get another shot

It hasn't even been a half yet.

Did Rex get the shaft, yeah probably.

Putting him back in will not solve the problems either. Give Griese time.

[cbotnyse]

I cant believe we are winning this game.

[BotheDMBFan]

Griese~!

Moose~!

Garrett Wolfe~!~!

[Tiduwho]

Hot Damn, our O-Line picked up a blitz!?!? Amazing, I can't believe it.


Our QB actually had time to stand in the pocket and make a throw.



That's a first this year for our O-Line.

[BotheDMBFan]

Hot Damn, our O-Line picked up a blitz!?!? Amazing, I can't believe it.


Our QB actually had time to stand in the pocket and make a throw.

Maybe it's a sign of thngs to come.

[Ev42]

It hasn't even been a half yet.

Did Rex get the shaft, yeah probably.

Putting him back in will not solve the problems either. Give Griese time.

I'm not saying Griese is horrible just that The O sucks no matter who is at QB

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm not saying Griese is horrible just that The O sucks no matter who is at QB

Well, Juice Williams would be able to overcome it...

[jaking1185]

I'm not saying Griese is horrible just that The O sucks no matter who is at QB

I agree that they are a big part of the problem. The difference is that Griese will not kill you with mistakes like Rex will.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

4 Blocked FG's on the year so far.

Hopefully we keep that up.

Hester needs to be in more plays.

Hopefully he will get some room so he can run a punt back for a TD.

[BotheDMBFan]

Garrett. Mother. Fucking. Wolfe~!

[BotheDMBFan]

Thanks Griese, you ass.

[Ev42]

Garrett. Mother. Fucking. Wolfe~!

he's looking good so far

[jaking1185]

Thanks Griese, you ass.

:lol At least it was sorta positive.

[BotheDMBFan]

he's looking good so far

It's because he's the best RB to have ever laced um up.

[Ev42]

Bad Griese

[BotheDMBFan]

What happened to Meatwad?

[Ev42]

he'll be back after the playoffs or if we start bad

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Bad Griese

Good Griese

vs


Bad Griese

[BotheDMBFan]

he'll be back after the playoffs or if we start bad

OK, we need one more person to be Frylock, and we can be the ATHF.

[BotheDMBFan]

We could be up 14-3 right now...if only we ran it with Garrett Wolfe~!

[Ev42]

who is shake. by the way cumdumpster is really sucking donkey cock

[DMBZeppelin]

I agree that they are a big part of the problem. The difference is that Griese will not kill you with mistakes like Rex will.
Griese has three season with more TD's then INT's. He doesn't have a strong arm arm so people think he's a game manger.

Prop's to the O-line and RB's for actually PICKING UP A BLITZ! Then Moose for actually catching something, he's been wide open before and dropped easier passes. So he's stepping it up this week.

Also on the Griese INT, I love how it's not a bad decision. They said he just doens't have the arm strength. Rex would have gotten ripped for doing that. Then again Rex has a strong enough arm to where that's probably a TD instead of an INT.

Rex had 6 INTs this year, but 2-3 of them were not really on him. Berrian giving up a route, Moose not being able to turn despite having the inside. Just dumb crap, if Rex throws a timing route it's on the reciever to be there. As I've said, the 2 bad INT's that killed us against Dallas. We were down by a lot, he had to try and force a play or give up on the game.

[BotheDMBFan]

who is shake. by the way cumdumpster is really sucking donkey cock

Frickin' me.

These games are meaningless, so I'll pardon his cocksuckery...for now.

[Ev42]

i'm going back to good old meatwad

[DMBZeppelin]

YAY! Benson's best run of the year. Mainly because I probably could have gotten 20 yards running barefoot through the hole. But Tait is hurt, if it's serious... well I'm not sure how many hits a 30 something QB in Griese can take.

[BotheDMBFan]

Just let me find a good pic of Shake...

[BotheDMBFan]

YAY! Benson's best run of the year. Mainly because I probably could have gotten 20 yards running barefoot through the hole. But Tait is hurt, if it's serious... well I'm not sure how many hits a 30 something QB in Griese can take.

Garrett Wolfe~! is still better.

[GinaNMU]

I've got both Benson and Barrian playing on my fantasy team right now... pick it up boys!!

[DMBZeppelin]

Garrett Wolfe~! is still better.
Garrett Wolfe ran a 4.39 in his pro day. Probably the fastest guy on the team sans Hester. If Wolfe hits that hole, the Bears are up 14-3.

[BotheDMBFan]

Garrett Wolfe ran a 4.39 in his pro day. Probably the fastest guy on the team sans Hester. If Wolfe hits that hole, the Bears are up 14-3.

I'm telling you, he should be the starter.

[DMBZeppelin]

Mark Anderson is a BEAST! I just hope we can actually score. I mean 10 yards for a score, we should be able to do this.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Thats two interceptions by Grieseball now.

Althought that wasn't his fault at all.

Recievers are suckage.

[BotheDMBFan]

Mark Anderson is a BEAST! I just hope we can actually score. I mean 10 yards for a score, we should be able to do this.

GARRETT WOLFE~!

[BotheDMBFan]

Fuck You Brian Griese!!!!!

[Ev42]

Awesome shake. man that blows Rex has to be laughing right now

[cbotnyse]

This is quite clear that this is not Griese's (or Rex's) fault. We have the worst receivers I've ever seen.

[DMBZeppelin]

Wow, that's fucking great. Just so you know Phil, Griese threw a pass to Moose that should have been complete, and a pass to Berrian that should have been a TD. Instead it's a INT.

For once the recievers didn't screw up. Griese threw behind the recievers. So they tried to reach back, but neither could get it.

[BotheDMBFan]

Awesome shake. man that blows Rex has to be laughing right now

Lickin' his chops is more like it.

[Tiduwho]

Blame Rex Forever!!

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Wow, that's fucking great. Just so you know Phil, Griese threw a pass to Moose that should have been complete, and a pass to Berrian that should have been a TD. Instead it's a INT.

For once the recievers didn't screw up. Griese threw behind the recievers. So they tried to reach back, but neither could get it.

It's half and half here.

Griese threw behind a couple times and there were some passes our recievers should have caught.

[BotheDMBFan]

Blame Rex Forever!!

I blame Lovie for not giving the ball to Garrett Wolfe.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Blame Rex Forever!!

Its Rex's fault that Griese is doing bad.

[Tiduwho]

Our O-Line finally looks better today. But our receivers are still probably the worst in the league. Where is Greg Olsen??

[DMBZeppelin]

Thats two interceptions by Grieseball now.

Althought that wasn't his fault at all.

Recievers are suckage.

This is quite clear that this is not Griese's (or Rex's) fault. We have the worst receivers I've ever seen.
What are you talking about? I could clearly see it was Griese's fault. They even broke it down and even said "It wasn't a dropped pass, that was just a bad throw by Griese."

He pissed the easy open window by like 3 seconds. All he had to do was hit a wide open Berrian and lead him. Instead he throws it behind WELL AFTER the spot it should have been. In fact if Griese had thrown the ball to the spot, and tried to lead Berrian at that spot. It would have been an INT with a return.

TO, Randy Moss, or some other elite recievers might have bailed Griese out there with an amazing catch. Plain and simpla a VERY LATE and VERY BAD throw by Griese. Still as long as we give him time, and if the running game can get it together. This game is ours.

[BotheDMBFan]

Our O-Line finally looks better today. But our receivers are still probably the worst in the league. Where is Greg Olsen??

On his arse, or so I've heard.

[cbotnyse]

Zep, our receivers fuckin blow, just admit it. Those are catchable balls.

[DMBZeppelin]

Zep, our receivers fuckin blow, just admit it. Those are catchable balls.
Do our recievers blow? Yep. They haven't done much for Rex or Griese. But that was 100% not their fault. Did you see when they broke down the INT? Berrian was WIDE OPEN and all he had to do was throw it right in front of him. Berrian got about 3-5 yards pass the spot, and then Griese threw it.

Did Berrian get his hands on it? Yes and that itself is amazing. I want you to run as fast as you can. All your momentum is going FORWARD. Now if something is thrown behind you. You're expected to reach back and grab it? That's a hard thing to do. It's not like he was standing still.

That's football 101, a horrible horrible pass by Griese. Because Berrian was literally wide open IN FRONT OF HIM. Your number 1 reciever in the middle of the field about 5 yards out. You should be able to hit that slant with EASE.

[BotheDMBFan]

10-3.

[BotheDMBFan]

I wish they'd sitch out this Cowgirl's game so I could watch Da Bears.

[BotheDMBFan]

Mark Anderson is insane. That is all.

[BotheDMBFan]

13-3.

[DMBZeppelin]

Sucks that Ricky Manning Jr. couldn't hold his block, and cost Hester another TD. I think with a 13-3 lead with only about a quarter to go, that this is a win. I'm very scared about facing a good Green Bay defense next week in a prime time game.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Sucks that Ricky Manning Jr. couldn't hold his block, and cost Hester another TD. I think with a 13-3 lead with only about a quarter to go, that this is a win. I'm very scared about facing a good Green Bay defense next week in a prime time game.

As am I.

[jaking1185]

Sucks that Ricky Manning Jr. couldn't hold his block, and cost Hester another TD. I think with a 13-3 lead with only about a quarter to go, that this is a win. I'm very scared about facing a good Green Bay defense next week in a prime time game.

As you should be.;)

I have to say they really are stopping the Vikes today. Its not pretty, but they clamp down when they have to and are only giving up FG's.

Me and my friend Eric are probably going to the game next week. He loves the Bears so I expect to be mocking him throughout the game.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

13-10.

Not Good.

[Ev42]

D was carved up that drive

[DMBZeppelin]

Well D. Manning's field goal block is looking pretty big right now.

[DMBZeppelin]

Was that INT for a TD on the recievers to? Because I saw all Honalulu Blue there.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Take out Rex huh ?

Looks like Griese can't do much better.

[BotheDMBFan]

Take out Rex huh ?

Looks like Griese can't do much better.

Orton please.

[cbotnyse]

someone please tell me that was just a joke and we get a redo.

[BotheDMBFan]

someone please tell me that was just a joke and we get a redo.

It was just a joke and we get a redo.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Hesssssssssssssttttttttterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! !!!!!

[DMBZeppelin]

3 INT's and 1 TD so far for Griese. He needs 3 more to match Rex's 3 game output in INT's.

Also Griese's career stats when behind in the 4th quarter are GOD AWFUL. It probably looks like Rex's game against the Cards last year....

Wow well Hester is MVP of this team.

[BotheDMBFan]

Devin Hester you're my best friend in the world.

[Tiduwho]

It was just a joke and we get a redo.

It was. We just got our redo.

[Ev42]

hopefully Rex is back in next week i don't see why not

[BotheDMBFan]

hopefully Rex is back in next week i don't see why not

ORTON~!

[BotheDMBFan]

Damn it REX! I blame you for our defense seemingly always sucking it up in the 2nd half.

[DMBZeppelin]

ORTON~!
Until you see Wolfe and Orton fail, I know you'll keep saying this. But I went to a couple training camp practices. Orton's accuarcy is a lot better then it was in 05'. He still needs to develop some touch on his passes.

This was the first offseason he took football seriously. He lost weight, and worked on his game. Orton could probably be a decent starter for us, but he's not ready yet. No point in having him regress by getting killed out there with this O-line.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Lets not kid ourselves guys.....

This is all Rex's fault.

[BotheDMBFan]

Why would Wolfe fail? He's the best RB to have ever played the game.

[DMBZeppelin]

hopefully Rex is back in next week i don't see why not
Because Lovie told Griese he didn't have to look over his shoulder, and he'd get plenty of time to show what he can do. If Griese sucks against GB though and we wind up 1-4. Well I think we will see Rex or Orton.
Damn it REX! I blame you for our defense seemingly always sucking it up in the 2nd half.
Give the defense a break. Our 3rd safety to start the season, started at cornerback today. Our 5th corner to start the season started at corner today.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm just saying, every second half they seem to fall apart.

[DMBZeppelin]

Is that Olsen I see?

[BotheDMBFan]

Is that Olsen I see?

Is it?(I'm stuck with GB)

[Tiduwho]

Blame REX it's HIS fault! He got our defense injured, because he's the worst QB in the history of the league.

Put this game solely on Rex for getting our defense hurt by being bad.

[DMBZeppelin]

Is it?(I'm stuck with GB)
Ya, two TE set. Clark was out there as well. Then Griese threw it to Benson. Seriously though, if I hope this puts the end to the "Griese won't make dumb mistakes" argument.

[BotheDMBFan]

Blame REX it's HIS fault! He got our defense injured, because he's the worst QB in the history of the league.

Put this game solely on Rex.

You know what? If the D wasn't on the field so much, maybe some of them wouldn't have gotten hurt. ;)

[DMBZeppelin]

Blame REX it's HIS fault! He got our defense injured, because he's the worst QB in the history of the league.

Put this game solely on Rex for getting our defense hurt by being bad.
HILLENMEYER WAS OFFSIDE!?!? DAMN YOU REX! :lol Ya I wonder what Mac, Jurko, and Harry will say. I know Boers and Bernstein aren't really big on Rex either.

I don't care if people hate Rex. I just hope if he gets a second chance, we as a fanbase give him a second chance. Lets cheer Rex on if he sees the field again. Booing will do nothing but put more unneeded pressure on him.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Packers are about to be 4 and 0

Were about to be 1 and 3

Then next week I feel that Farve might pick us apart.

[jaking1185]

Ya, two TE set. Clark was out there as well. Then Griese threw it to Benson. Seriously though, if I hope this puts the end to the "Griese won't make dumb mistakes" argument.

I never said he wouldn't make any, just less than Rex.

It's all good though. The Packers have pulled away and will be 4-0. I am looking forward to next week.

[Tiduwho]

You know what? If the D wasn't on the field so much, maybe some of them wouldn't have gotten hurt. ;)

Exactly, blame him from now and at any point in the future! He set our franchise back 5 years!

[Ev42]

HILLENMEYER WAS OFFSIDE!?!? DAMN YOU REX! :lol Ya I wonder what Mac, Jurko, and Harry will say. I know Boers and Bernstein aren't really big on Rex either.

I don't care if people hate Rex. I just hope if he gets a second chance, we as a fanbase give him a second chance. Lets cheer Rex on if he sees the field again. Booing will do nothing but put more unneeded pressure on him.

they suck nuts

Mac, Jurko, and Harry rock:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[BotheDMBFan]

The NFL doesn't exist. Fact.

[cbotnyse]

its gonna be a long fuckin year.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Hester needs to return this for a TD.

RIGHT NOW HESTER CMON!!!!!!

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

And thats game.

The rest of the team will not pull through.

Thats the season goodbye Bears.

Maybe next year.

[DMBZeppelin]

I never said he wouldn't make any, just less than Rex.

It's all good though. The Packers have pulled away and will be 4-0. I am looking forward to next week.
Except he's on pace to have a lot more INT's then Rex.

What's sad is that the Lions suck against the deep pass. That's how the Eagles tore them up last week. What do we do? Bench our deep ball thrower the week before we play them. Oh well, unless we pull a 2001 (which required Mike Brown) I don't see a win.

Though I'll never forget being down 21-7 to the Browns with 32 seconds left in the 4th quarter, and WINNING! One of the craziest games I've ever seen.

[DMBZeppelin]

Why is Griese throwing behind people!? DOES HE NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO LEAD A RECIEVER!?

[jaking1185]

Except he's on pace to have a lot more INT's then Rex.

What's sad is that the Lions suck against the deep pass. That's how the Eagles tore them up last week. What do we do? Bench our deep ball thrower the week before we play them. Oh well, unless we pull a 2001 (which required Mike Brown) I don't see a win.

Though I'll never forget being down 21-7 to the Browns with 32 seconds left in the 4th quarter, and WINNING! One of the craziest games I've ever seen.

With the entire offensive collapse, I don't think Peyton could save the Bears right now. All they can do is try to fix things and get into position to sqeak into the playoffs.

[BotheDMBFan]

GRIESE YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT! WE SUCK! THE NFL IS A HOAX!


Mike Holmgren was so right about everything he said about teams that lose the Super Bowl.

[Ev42]

With the entire offensive collapse, I don't think Peyton could save the Bears right now. All they can do is try to fix things and get into position to sqeak into the playoffs.

PLAYOFFS:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[ChetUbetcha]

Pathetic.

I don't know what else to say...

[DMBZeppelin]

GRIESE YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT! WE SUCK! THE NFL IS A HOAX!


Mike Holmgren was so right about everything he said about teams that lose the Super Bowl.
All he said was that he did a lot of research on it after the Seahawks lost it. He said for whatever reason the loser always gets hit with the injury bug. Which held true last year for them, but they still got in.

[BotheDMBFan]

All he said was that he did a lot of research on it after the Seahawks lost it. He said for whatever reason the loser always gets hit with the injury bug. Which held true last year for them, but they still got in.

Which holds true for us too, and held true for a few other teams in recent memory.

[Tiduwho]

they suck nuts

Mac, Jurko, and Harry rock:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Couldn't disagree more. It's not even possible for me to be further on the other side of the fence.

[jaking1185]

PLAYOFFS:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I'm trying to be as positive as I can. :lol

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

This entire team has just fallen apart this year.

We are so fucking sloppy.

At least I have the Cubs and Bulls to look forward to.

Fuck it.

[DMBZeppelin]

PLAYOFFS:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
(Insert Jim Mora speach)
Playoffs... you're talking about playoffs? PLAYOFFS? You kidding me? We can't even win a game.

[ChetUbetcha]

This entire team has just fallen apart this year.

We are so fucking sloppy.

At least I have the Cubs and Bulls to look forward to.

Fuck it.

Are you saying you are giving up on the Bears?

Read my signature please. Keep it real.

[BotheDMBFan]

I don't know what to do in the draft this year. Do we go QB, even though there's a possibility of us getting McNabb? Do we go O-line? Do we go WR? What do we do?

[Tiduwho]

Who gives a crap about the draft. It's week 4.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm thinking ahead. Seeing as we blow dick this year. ;)

[Ev42]

Couldn't disagree more. It's not even possible for me to be further on the other side of the fence.

:ugh i dislike them so much my 2 cents

[ChetUbetcha]

Lets worry about this year Bo. I don't understand how you can say it's a lost season. I personally was expecting a rough week with all the injuries.

THIS IS NOT A LOST SEASON.

Who knows, Grossman could make a return and blow us away.

[BotheDMBFan]

Lets worry about this year Bo. I don't understand how you can say it's a lost season. I personally was expecting a rough week with all the injuries.

THIS IS NOT A LOST SEASON.

Who knows, Grossman could make a return and blow us away.

Ok, MAYBE we have a chance here...

[Tiduwho]

Thank God, way to actually catch it there.

[BotheDMBFan]

Why are they not showing this game here? This is bubkiss.

Who honestly watches Bull riding?

[cbotnyse]

awesome.

[BotheDMBFan]

Son. Of. A. Bitch.

[ChetUbetcha]

of course...

[DMBZeppelin]

So lets review.
Game 1 - Pass Attempts: 23
Game 2 - Pass Attempts: 34
Game 3 - Pass Attempts: 32
Game 4 - Pass Attempts: 50

What the hell is with that? We obviously couldn't run the first three games. So we let Griese air it out? But for whatever reason they also let Griese call audibles when they wouldn't let Rex.

So all in all that's just crap. I would have love to see what Rex could do with 50 pass attempts. Instead of run Benson on 1st and 2nd down. Then let Rex throw on 3rd down in obvious passing situations.

[BotheDMBFan]

We better be really fucking healthy next week, because we'll need all the help we can get.

[Ev42]

all you can do is :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[ChetUbetcha]

all you can do is :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I've been to passionate about this team for too long to find this funny. This year was the Bears' year. You know how hard it is to build a team with this much talent? Just look at the 90's and early 00's.

When you have a good team, you MUST take advantage. This is so sickening to me.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Are you saying you are giving up on the Bears?

Read my signature please. Keep it real.

No I'm not giving up but I have little hope for us.

Unless some drastic changes take place.

Im just really frustrated right now.

[BotheDMBFan]

We need something...what? I don't know.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

So lets review.
Game 1 - Pass Attempts: 23
Game 2 - Pass Attempts: 34
Game 3 - Pass Attempts: 32
Game 4 - Pass Attempts: 50

What the hell is with that? We obviously couldn't run the first three games. So we let Griese air it out? But for whatever reason they also let Griese call audibles when they wouldn't let Rex.

So all in all that's just crap. I would have love to see what Rex could do with 50 pass attempts. Instead of run Benson on 1st and 2nd down. Then let Rex throw on 3rd down in obvious passing situations.

Agree :thumbsup

[Ev42]

I've been to passionate about this team for too long to find this funny. This year was the Bears' year. You know how hard it is to build a team with this much talent? Just look at the 90's and early 00's.

When you have a good team, you MUST take advantage. This is so sickening to me.

you have fun with that i would rather :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol. why the fuck be upset and let it get you down. your not on the team it's just a game. unlike the Cubs which will kill me

[ChetUbetcha]

I honestly feel the Bears need to consider switching back to Rex. Griese is not a good quarterback.

On the bright side, they started 1-3 in '05, and ended up being north champs...

[ChetUbetcha]

you have fun with that i would rather :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol. why the fuck be upset and let it get you down. your not on the team it's just a game. unlike the Cubs which will kill me

Your cubs are my Bears. You dig

[BotheDMBFan]

I honestly feel the Bears need to consider switching back to Rex. Griese is not a good quarterback.

On the bright side, they started 1-3 in '05, and ended up being north champs...

Good point. Maybe with a healthy D, we can start running shit again.

[Ev42]

like a great man once said don't worry be happy

[Tiduwho]

I honestly feel the Bears need to consider switching back to Rex. Griese is not a good quarterback.

On the bright side, they started 1-3 in '05, and ended up being north champs...

With......Kyle Orton!


How soon until we hear the chants for Throat Beard? I can't wait to hear all week how "All this means is that Griese is bad too! Time to give up!"

[Ev42]

Your cubs are my Bears. You dig

i dig then it all right to trash the house

[Ev42]

I honestly feel the Bears need to consider switching back to Rex. Griese is not a good quarterback.

On the bright side, they started 1-3 in '05, and ended up being north champs...

agree

[BotheDMBFan]

With......Kyle Orton!


How soon until we hear the chants for Throat Beard? I can't wait to hear all week how "All this means is that Griese is bad too! Time to give up!"

Fine, Throat Beard it is. Can't get much worse.

[DMBZeppelin]

To update my previous post -
Game 1 - Pass Attempts: 23
Game 2 - Pass Attempts: 34
Game 3 - Pass Attempts: 32
Game 4 - Pass Attempts: 52

[ChetUbetcha]

Anyone watching Bears Postgame Live?

[ChetUbetcha]

Fine, Throat Beard it is. Can't get much worse.

Yes. it can. Kyle Orton is a douche bag and a waste of a roster spot

[BotheDMBFan]

Anyone watching Bears Postgame Live?

No, what are they saying?

[BotheDMBFan]

Yes. it can. Kyle Orton is a douche bag and a waste of a roster spot

Fine, put me in then coach.

[Ev42]

Anyone watching Bears Postgame Live?

yes..

[DMBZeppelin]

They are semi-defending Griese on ESPN 1000.

If anyone wants to hear the Bears post-game, plus you can hear what other Bears fan say who call in. Go to http://www.espnradio1000.com and click LISTEN LIVE on the Bears Post Game. They'll be going over the game, and taking calls for the next two hours.

[ChetUbetcha]

No, what are they saying?

Just got started but the usual stuff right now as you'd expect. Execution, blah blah blah.

I'll post the grades they give to Griese in a few minutes. Hopefully Lovie says something meaningful on the podium. Enough of the usual shit. Lay the smackdown.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'd call in...but I'd get kicked off probably.

[BotheDMBFan]

Just got started but the usual stuff right now as you'd expect. Execution, blah blah blah.

I'll post the grades they give to Griese in a few minutes. Hopefully Lovie says something meaningful on the podium. Enough of the usual shit. Lay the smackdown.

Lovie is too nice to lay the smackdown. I've never seen him yell, ever.

[ChetUbetcha]

I'd call in...but I'd get kicked off probably.

They don't have a call-in segment...but that would be funny stuff lol.

this is bears postgame live on comcast...not radio

[BotheDMBFan]

They don't have a call-in segment...but that would be funny stuff lol.

this is bears postgame live on comcast...not radio

I'm talking about the radio show that was put up.

[ChetUbetcha]

Ah.


Heh.......lovie is so pissed right now. Almost seems lost/confused.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

They are semi-defending Griese on ESPN 1000.

If anyone wants to hear the Bears post-game, plus you can hear what other Bears fan say who call in. Go to http://www.espnradio1000.com and click LISTEN LIVE on the Bears Post Game. They'll be going over the game, and taking calls for the next two hours.

I don't want anyone to defend Griese at all.

I don't like him, never did.

Take him out.

I wan't Rex back.