Da Bears

[UCFish]

Aaron Rodgers is going to crucify the Bears Pass D next week.

Edit: Turrible, LOL. Nice, Mike.

No our pass rush is going to destroy him.....wait no oh yeah I forgot we have NO pass rush whatsoever.

[BotheDMBFan]

This whole thing was worth bringing up for Bo's Ray Rice comment alone. But it looks like the only people who didn't hate the Forte pick were Tiduwho and myself. Now he's our best offensive player.

Plus the Brohm comment by gocubsgo is also a good one. As he couldn't beat out 7th round pick Matt Flynn for the backup spot in GB. Though I think Brohm reclaimed the #2 spot at one point.

Isn't Ray Rice the shit now too though? Yeah, fuck you.

[BotheDMBFan]

Given what we know now about Kellen Davis being a freak? What say you? I'm quoting us from the actual draft because I think it's funny. Lots of golden stuff like this. I think Kellen Davis might actually turn out to be a better tight end (not receiver) then Greg Olsen. I'll never forget this one handed grab though in the pre-season. He's still got the body of an O-linemen though, even with all his speed.










Bo do you still feel good about Brennan? I know he had a solid pre-season, but so did the guy I suggested the Bears draft (though they obviously didn't draft him) in Caleb Hanie, who we signed as a undrafted free agent.

I may be wrong about Brennan being a total bust, because he looked more competent then I expected. Give that Bo, right now who would you take between Brennan and Hanie?

I might go back and find other things like this for us to discuss from the past, unless we want to talk about how we shit the bed all week against the Titans.

I would still take Brennan, any day of the week.

[devilandthelord]

Isn't Ray Rice the shit now too though? Yeah, fuck you.

Forte is better though.

[BotheDMBFan]

Forte is better though.

Agreed. I'm just saying it also wouldn't have been a bad thing if we got Rice, asshole.

[DMBZeppelin]

No our pass rush is going to destroy him.....wait no oh yeah I forgot we have NO pass rush whatsoever.
Honestly we should run a 0-6-5, who needs D-linemen when they do nothing anyways?
Isn't Ray Rice the shit now too though? Yeah, fuck you.
He's solid, and has ok hands. But he's pretty much a pure RB. Guys like that are never great RB's. He's not a 3 down back. Forte can and should be in on every down. Some of the blitzers he stopped from getting to Rex blew my mind. Guys were going full speed for Rex, and then it was like they hit a wall... but it was really Matt Forte.
Agreed. I'm just saying it also wouldn't have been a bad thing if we got Rice, asshole.
The whole point I loved about your post was that you said we now had 4 RB's who couldn't start. I know you don't think that now. But Forte is a special kind of running back. I honestly think we wouldn't be in 1st without Forte. Yes it would be a bad thing had we gotten Ray Rice with our 2nd round pick. Because then we'd be seeing something other team with Matt Forte, and we'd all say "Wow he was available when we took Rice."

[BotheDMBFan]

Woah woah woah, Garrett Wolfe is still our best player now.

[DMBZeppelin]

Woah woah woah, Garrett Wolfe is still our best player now.
I know this is one of our long running jokes, but in all seriousness he might be our best special teams player this year.

[BotheDMBFan]

Who says it's a fucking joke?

He might honestly be our best all around player. Good tackler, fast as hell, good hands, etc etc.

Just because there are 6th graders taller than him, doesn't make him any less amazing.

[DMBZeppelin]

Who says it's a fucking joke?

He might honestly be our best all around player. Good tackler, fast as hell, good hands, etc etc.

Just because there are 6th graders taller than him, doesn't make him any less amazing.
Everything Wolfe does, Forte is better at. Until it became apparent he could do something on special teams, he basically was useless to this team. He will never have been worth the 3rd round pick we used on him.

[BotheDMBFan]

Everything Wolfe does, Forte is better at. Until it became apparent he could do something on special teams, he basically was useless to this team. He will never have been worth the 3rd round pick we used on him.

Wolfe was the dopeshit on special teams last year too. And Wolfe can be used as a 3rd down guy, because of how awesome his hands are. Shit, use him as a #4 or 5 WR too.

Wolfe is faster than Forte, this we know. Forte is a better RB though.

[darbini]

I'll take better over faster anyday

[DMBZeppelin]

Wolfe was the dopeshit on special teams last year too.
This is false.

[DMBZeppelin]

No one ever joined the Bears group :(

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/group.php?groupid=13

[jaking1185]

No one ever joined the Bears group :(

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/group.php?groupid=13

That's funny. The Packers group has more members and only 3-4 of us ever post in that thread. You'd think there'd be way more Bears fans.

[BotheDMBFan]

This is false.

No it's not. He got all them tackles, and he was a good blocker.

[DMBZeppelin]

-Devin Hester Record Watch 07'-

Most Punt Returns in a Career
Current Record: 10, held by Eric Metcalf
Devin Hester: 7

Most Kick Returns in a Career
Current Record: 6, held by 5 players
Devin Hester: 4

Most Returns (Combined) in a Career
Current Record: 13, held by Brian Mitchell
Devin Hester: ~11

~Missed Field Goal Against Giants, and Super Bowl kick return don't count in the record books.

Most Punt Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Jack Christiansen, Rick Upchurch, and now Hester
Devin Hester 07': 4

Most Kick Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Travis Williams and Cecil Turner
Devin Hester 07': 2

Most Returns (Combined) in a Season
Current Record: ~6
Devin Hester 07': 6

~ Hester's 6 this year is the record for most combined kick returns in a year. He had 6 combined returns last year, but only 5 were kick returns. The other was the missed field goal return against the Giants.

*Hester is tied for the most kickoff returns, and and kick returns for Touchdowns in a game (2). Which he has done multiple times. The Punt Return for Touchdowns in a game is only 2 as well, which you'd have to believe he'll eventually break.
* First person to ever return the opening kickoff in the Super Bowl for a touchdown.
*Hester set a single-game franchise record with 314 Kick Return yards, which is second all time to the Saints Tyrone Hughes who had 347
*Hester set a single-game franchise record for Punt Return yards with 152, and he nearly tied it in Week 12 of the 07' season against the Broncos with 151 punt return yards.
*Has made the Pro Bowl both years in the league.
*Won Week 2 NFC Special Team Player of the Week, 4th time in Career
*Won Sept. NFC Special Team Player of the Month, 2nd time in Career
*Hester previously tied for the record for longest play (108 yards), but that record has since fallen.
:mad I've been waiting all year to update this.

[Tiduwho]

I can't wait. The day to finally embarass Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson for being ego-maniacal asshats is here!


Let's take it to 'em! :multi

[DMBZeppelin]

Watching ESPN right now. Apparently Greg Jennings wanted to stop watching film of the Bears, because he couldn't believe what he was seeing. They don't plan to use any of their creative 5 wideout sets because they don't believe they need to.

Sad thing is, I know they're right :(

[DMBZeppelin]

:multi IT'S TIME!

BEAR DOWN CHICAGO BEARS!

[DMBZeppelin]

I see Roach is still starting, is Hillenmeyer the backup now, or is he still out?

[DMBZeppelin]

Wow, we're going to suck against the run today too? That's not good.

[DMBZeppelin]

Just went to ChicagoBears.com and got the inactives list, and I'm kind of surprised.

#12 - QB Hanie
#24 - CB Hamilton
#27 - RB Jones
#69 - T Miller
#75 - DT Toeaina
#85 - WR Bennett
#95 - DT Adams
#99 - DE Baldwin
So our 2nd string RB is inactive why? Just so Wolfe and Peterson can play special teams? How is that smart?

Also I'm sick of the SEC's All-time leader in receptions never getting to play. Honestly, he was a 3rd round draft pick. He's considered a really talented guy. He had a great pre-season and even returned a kick or punt for a touch down. I forget which, but why has he not been given a chance?

[DMBZeppelin]

Orton's first two passes have me kind of scared. Both were to guys very covered. Also sucked that Forte's big run got called back.

[DMBZeppelin]

Damnit Hester.

[DMBZeppelin]

Well Orton missed an open receiver, should I expect everyone to say he sucks? Didn't think so.

But I am worried about his ankle. I hope he didn't try to come back too soon. I'd rather him miss another game, then re-aggrivate the ankle and miss the next 3.

[DMBZeppelin]

Well we're down 7-0, I don't see how we win this game unless the Bears decide to stop the pass. Play some man to man damnit. Screw all this weird deep zone stuff.

[Tiduwho]

OMFG, this is EMBARASSING. I'm sick of this play 10 yards off the receiver bullshit. OMFG, fuck this god damn defense.

[highlander4]

OK guys... Sorry I am a little late. So they drove down the field with the passing game and scored on us. We can come back from this.

[highlander4]

I really like how Forte looks.

[highlander4]

I also think that Olsen is going to be a very good TE.

[DMBZeppelin]

I really like how Forte looks.
Ya he's amazing, just imagine if we build him a good offensive line.
I also think that Olsen is going to be a very good TE.
I'm not sure about that, but he's definetly going to be a receiver at worst. He needs to be a better blocker though.

[highlander4]

Just went to ChicagoBears.com and got the inactives list, and I'm kind of surprised.


So our 2nd string RB is inactive why? Just so Wolfe and Peterson can play special teams? How is that smart?

Also I'm sick of the SEC's All-time leader in receptions never getting to play. Honestly, he was a 3rd round draft pick. He's considered a really talented guy. He had a great pre-season and even returned a kick or punt for a touch down. I forget which, but why has he not been given a chance?

Bennett was very good on a very bad team at Vandy. I have no idea why they don't play him???

[DMBZeppelin]

THAT WAS SICK! Orton audibles to the shotgun, and Forte stays in bounds and makes an amazing catch, just wow.

[highlander4]

Ya he's amazing, just imagine if we build him a good offensive line.

I'm not sure about that, but he's definetly going to be a receiver at worst. He needs to be a better blocker though.

An O line would change our team 100%. Funny thing is it is not even a bad Oline it is just not a GOOD one.


Olsen is more of a Gates kind of TE. He does need to get to be a better blocker but I think he has very good potential.

[highlander4]

THAT WAS SICK! Orton audibles to the shotgun, and Forte stays in bounds and makes an amazing catch, just wow.

Great PLay.


Why do you challenge for a 7 yard difference like that? Makes no sense. I understand he won the challenge but come on, is that 7 yard difference worth a possible lost TO?

[highlander4]

I mean we were gonna kick a field goal either way as it turns out....

[Sou1 So1di3r]

7-3

blegh

shoud be 7-7

[DMBZeppelin]

Great PLay.


Why do you challenge for a 7 yard difference like that? Makes no sense. I understand he won the challenge but come on, is that 7 yard difference worth a possible lost TO?
It looked to me like he was in. He used all the green the field had, but his foot looked like it was directly next to the white, not on it.

[highlander4]

7-3

blegh

shoud be 7-7

I know we are going to take advantage of the short passing game due to not having Barnett in there but the Packers can't stop the run. If we would stick with the run I am SURE we could have gotten into the endzone.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Did he just say infield fly rule?

[highlander4]

It looked to me like he was in. He used all the green the field had, but his foot looked like it was directly next to the white, not on it.

Agreed....

[highlander4]

Did he just say infield fly rule?

Yes he did. Is he still in baseball mode????

[DMBZeppelin]

Did he just say infield fly rule?
yes... and how is that applicable to football? Who's out?

[Sou1 So1di3r]

LOL @ retarded commentators.

[DMBZeppelin]

What is this!?!?!?! WE BROKE UP A POCKET!?!? COVERAGE!??!

[DMBZeppelin]

Grant just got killed by Mike Brown.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Damn. that was a hard hit.

[DMBZeppelin]

"Mike Brown just came out of center field." I know that's commonly used, but still with other baseball references, it made me laugh.

[highlander4]

That is the Mike Brown I miss!!!

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Where the fuck is our defense??

[highlander4]

"Mike Brown just came out of center field." I know that's commonly used, but still with other baseball references, it made me laugh.

Watch for a big homerun hit in a little while...

[highlander4]

Grant is averaging over 8 yards a carry right now... COME ON D!!!!!!!

[Sou1 So1di3r]

"Pass is incomplete, ground ball along the base line."

[DMBZeppelin]

Even though he didn't get the tackle, that was a good thing that Brown was able to slow down the RB.

[highlander4]

Fuck Ryan Grant. Fuck him straight in the ass with a chainsaw!!!

[DMBZeppelin]

"Pass is incomplete, ground ball along the base line."
Am I watching a Cubs/Brewers game?

[Sou1 So1di3r]

nice break for us.

[DMBZeppelin]

THAT WAS A HUGE PENALTY! Hopefully we can stop them on 4th down.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Am I watching a Cubs/Brewers game?

"and Sabathia with a rocket to the reciever!!"

[Sou1 So1di3r]

What the fuck is going on?!?!

[DMBZeppelin]

Wait... what!?

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Interception urlacher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[highlander4]

Urlacher is MY FUCKING HERO!!!!!!!!!!

[DMBZeppelin]

URLACHER WITH THE INTERCEPTION! I think they made the wrong call, you're not allowed to catch the ball, even if you step back in balls. But it's good to see Urlacher make a play.

[DMBZeppelin]

:lol On the 7 yard run by Forte. I like how he had a guy on his back for a second, he kind of half brushed him off. Like it didn't even phase him.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

wait... What!?

doesnt matter anymore interception!!

[highlander4]

What the fuck is going on?!?!

We are watching a Footbasegame.

[GoLdpHiShDMB]

Kyle Orton starting?

[DMBZeppelin]

Kyle Orton starting?
Or Ted Lilly, we can't tell.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

well shit that was a waste.

[highlander4]

DAMNIT... 3 and out! SHIT.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Or Ted Lilly, we can't tell.

:lol:lol:lol

[GoLdpHiShDMB]

Hahaha.. It must be nice to have a cool QB.

[DMBZeppelin]

This pass defense makes me sick.

[DMBZeppelin]

BULL! You're allowed to do that if you look at the ball.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

damnit

[DMBZeppelin]

And a collective groan from Grant fantasy owners, but a sigh of a relief to this Bears fan.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

damnit damnit damnit

[DMBZeppelin]

Well I'll say this, we need to score before half time or I don't this game going well for us.

[Ev42]

lol at this fucking D. can't stop the pass or the run.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

What the fuck is going on here.

[jaking1185]

How about Grant? ;)

I can't remember the last time the Bears run D was so bad in a game.

[Tiduwho]

Lol, this is pathetic. Any time we do have them stopped, we get a penalty.

[Ev42]

What the fuck is going on here.

the bears D sucks! and has sucked all year

[DMBZeppelin]

Hester in years past could have easily switched directions.... he's just not the same player. He's just a mediocre receiver with a great skill set. Seriously he needs to be almost all special teams. Getting sick of this, we killed one of our BEST weapons. Last year we'd start this drive at the 40.

[Ev42]

honestly i can see the bears winning 1 more game and thats it

[devilandthelord]

Whoa!
How is that the Bears are able to completely shut down what had been an unstoppable Titans Running game, and today Ryan Grant and the Green Bay running game which had struggled most of the year have over 100 yards before halftime???

That said, I am glad I stuck with my decision to start Ryan Grant today, but damn thats messed up.

[DMBZeppelin]

Whoa!
How is that the Bears are able to completely shut down what had been an unstoppable Titans Running game, and today Ryan Grant and the Green Bay running game which had struggled most of the year have over 100 yards before halftime???

That said, I am glad I stuck with my decision to start Ryan Grant today, but damn thats messed up.
They took the extra guy out of the box. Past games we stopped the run at all cost. Today we went with a more balanced defense. So maybe instead of being awful against the pass, we just suck. Instead of being great against the run, we're just ok.

[DMBZeppelin]

honestly i can see the bears winning 1 more game and thats it
St. Louis next week?

[DMBZeppelin]

The Bears handed GB the dagger. Awesome.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

wow this is retarded

[Ev42]

St. Louis next week?

can either run all over the bears or knowing the bears they will pass all over us.

[Ev42]

i fucking hate seeing lovie's face

[Tiduwho]

This is one of the worst defenses I've ever seen.


2008 Bears D vs 1997 Bears D, who was worse? The 1997 Bears started out 0 and 7.

[DMBZeppelin]

i fucking hate seeing lovie's face
:lol How come?

[BotheDMBFan]

Urlacher is the only one in this game that looks like he's actually trying.

[DMBZeppelin]

Oh please miss this 53 yard FG.

[DMBZeppelin]

:( Only Hester can save us now.

[BotheDMBFan]

Nope, perfect kick.

Way to go Ron Turner, you fucking mongoloid.

[Ev42]

i can't wait for cubs season

[BotheDMBFan]

Oh sweet, OH SWEET.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

fucking retards

[DMBZeppelin]

Hester really needed to just get out of bounds, give us a few extra seconds.

[BotheDMBFan]

GO FOR THE ENDZONE!

If we can go in down 17-10, that would be swell.

[DMBZeppelin]

You know what's hilarious, with 2 seconds left I remember a time this decade we'd just kneel down.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

lame lame lame lame LAME

[DMBZeppelin]

WHAT!?!?!? WE RUN!?!?!?!? SERIOUSLY!?!?!? Wow.... no lets not try to throw a hail mary.

[BotheDMBFan]

This team defies all logic. Just, fuck.

[devilandthelord]

How's Orton looking?

I'm at work so I can't watch.

But I was just curious.
Cuz I was thinking about whether this was a good or bad idea to start him if he's not more healthy.
But then I thought about how although GB's Defense is not very good, they are very good at picking off passes and more importantly getting pick 6's.
Which could bode very badly for a guy with Rex's decision making playing against him.
Then I was glad Orton was starting. I was just hoping he could still be effective and not hurt himself any further.

[DMBZeppelin]

How's Orton looking?

I'm at work so I can't watch.

But I was just curious.
Cuz I was thinking about whether this was a good or bad idea to start him if he's not more healthy.
But then I thought about how although GB's Defense is not very good, they are very good at picking off passes and more importantly getting pick 6's.
Which could bode very badly for a guy with Rex's decision making playing against him.
Then I was glad Orton was starting. I was just hoping he could still be effective and not hurt himself any further.
I think Rex would have been about the same had he started. I know he missed guys in the last game, but the Titans are one of the top defenses in the NFL. Regardless Orton has looked ok, but not great.

5 for 10, 55 yards. But just like with any Bears QB, I think the receivers need to help out the QB sometimes and that never happens. Early on Orton was limping I thought he might come out. He was throwing to guys who were covered, but he seems to be getting better as the game goes along.

He's over thrown a guy or two, but overall there haven't been a ton of guys open.

[BotheDMBFan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Turner_(American_football)#Coaching_career

Last paragraph of the Coaching Carreer section REALLY defines Ron Turner well.

[DMBZeppelin]

They were talking about Orton on the Score earlier this week. That all his good games have come against bad defenses. The Bears are 1-3 against good defenses and 4-1 against bad ones.

I'm still mad we didn't get to see Orton against the Titans, because I still don't know what we have in him. We need to find out before the season is over, and we give him a huge contract.

I'd also like to know why Earl Bennett hasn't played yet, and if Orton is the guy hopefully we draft him some play makers.

[DMBZeppelin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Turner_(American_football)#Coaching_career

Last paragraph of the Coaching Carreer section REALLY defines Ron Turner well.
I'm guessing you just did that?

[BotheDMBFan]

I did no such thing. Just because those are phrases I commonly use, does not mean that I did that.

[Tiduwho]

The refs just keep making sure the Bears can't do anything.


Hillenmeyer didn't even touch him!!!!! Fuck these God Damn refs. Fucking God Damnit. :BANG

[clcfball11]

Lovie Smith is the shittiest coach in professional football.


As a diehard lifelong fan of Bears football, I have watched Lovie Smith mismanage the clock for his entire tenure as coach of this team. Just a few minutes ago, Lovie's inability to manage a football game at the end of the half led to 3 easy points for Green Bay. In addition, he has absolutely NO control over these players. Not to sound like an old-school grumpy dude, which I am not considering I am 20 years old, but most of the guys on this defense are a bunch of spoiled pieces of shit. The things Urlacher and Harris have been saying to the media is a joke. A player who respects,looks up to, and maybe even fears their coach a little bit doesn't point fingers at other teammates and just give off a vibe of complete disrespect. Remember Tommie Harris' incredibly stupid move against Atlanta that may have lost us the game? when he flopped on a loose football and then just inexplicably lost it? Not a SINGLE word was said to him on the sidelines. In fact, there isn't a single word said to anybody on the sidelines. This guy flat out blows as a coach and mentor. And don't give me this "oh but he led them to the Super Bowl" garbage, because thats like saying Grossman led them to the super bowl, if you know what I mean. Get some fucking control of your team, and quit standing there with that same dumbass look on your face while you stare at the scoreboard. Just please, DO SOMETHING, maybe like taking a knife and running into it.


/rant.

[DMBZeppelin]

Way to kill a great return! Seriously why when Hester got sprung by the block, didn't he just run full speed ahead? He'd have been gone, he never does that anymore.

[BotheDMBFan]

God dammit.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

testicles

[BotheDMBFan]

Devin Hester, please return one. PLEASE.

[highlander4]

We need Hester now...

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Devin Hester sucks

[DMBZeppelin]

Lovie Smith is the shittiest coach in professional football.
False

I have watched Lovie Smith mismanage the clock for his entire tenure as coach of this team. Just a few minutes ago, Lovie's inability to manage a football game at the end of the half led to 3 easy points for Green Bay.
While if Lovie wanted to, he could tell Turner what to do. He really doesn't do that. Because Lovie being a defensive coach, doesn't know jack about offense.

In addition, he has absolutely NO control over these players. Not to sound like an old-school grumpy dude, which I am not considering I am 20 years old, but most of the guys on this defense are a bunch of spoiled pieces of shit. The things Urlacher and Harris have been saying to the media is a joke. A player who respects,looks up to, and maybe even fears their coach a little bit doesn't point fingers at other teammates and just give off a vibe of complete disrespect.
Who exactly have Harris and Urlacher pointed fingers at? I'm a guy who lives and breathes Chicago sports. I read the Suntimes, I listen the Score. I know what's going on. Harris has ALWAYS been very very very weird. He pointed fingers at the media this week, but not teammates. What did Urlacher do?

Remember Tommie Harris' incredibly stupid move against Atlanta that may have lost us the game? when he flopped on a loose football and then just inexplicably lost it? Not a SINGLE word was said to him on the sidelines. In fact, there isn't a single word said to anybody on the sidelines. This guy flat out blows as a coach and mentor.
Contrary to popular belief, Lovie has yelled at his players. He doesn't do it often, and Lovie is never going to be a guy who is always screaming and yelling. That can only work for so often. These players are grown men will millions of dollars. Let me ask you this, I know you're only 20, but do you need your boss to yell at you everyday to do a better job? Wouldn't that eventually get old after a while?

And don't give me this "oh but he led them to the Super Bowl" garbage, because thats like saying Grossman led them to the super bowl, if you know what I mean.
Nope, despite how much you think Rex may suck in 2008. Tell me how he didn't lead them to the Super Bowl in 2006. Using actualy facts. "The defense did" is not a good answer.

Get some fucking control of your team, and quit standing there with that same dumbass look on your face while you stare at the scoreboard. Just please, DO SOMETHING, maybe like taking a knife and running into it./rant.
He looks at the scoreboard probably because he's getting a close up look of what just happened during the last play. Honestly I do not like Lovie Smith as a head coach, but your case against him is crap. You don't need a coach to get into someones face and yell at them to be a good coach.

[highlander4]

I leave to take care of my daughter and I come back to this.... COME ON!!!!!!

[DMBZeppelin]

Devin Hester sucks
It's not in him anymore. The all time leader in receptions for SEC in Earl Bennett is inactive every week. We have better options then Devin. Because while we are turning Hester into an ok receiver. We got rid of the best weapon in football.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Wonderful. Just what we needed.

[BotheDMBFan]

False


While if Lovie wanted to, he could tell Turner what to do. He really doesn't do that. Because Lovie being a defensive coach, doesn't know jack about offense.


Who exactly have Harris and Urlacher pointed fingers at? I'm a guy who lives and breathes Chicago sports. I read the Suntimes, I listen the Score. I know what's going on. Harris has ALWAYS been very very very weird. He pointed fingers at the media this week, but not teammates. What did Urlacher do?


Contrary to popular belief, Lovie has yelled at his players. He doesn't do it often, and Lovie is never going to be a guy who is always screaming and yelling. That can only work for so often. These players are grown men will millions of dollars. Let me ask you this, I know you're only 20, but do you need your boss to yell at you everyday to do a better job? Wouldn't that eventually get old after a while?


Nope, despite how much you think Rex may suck in 2008. Tell me how he didn't lead them to the Super Bowl in 2006. Using actualy facts. "The defense did" is not a good answer.


He looks at the scoreboard probably because he's getting a close up look of what just happened during the last play. Honestly I do not like Lovie Smith as a head coach, but your case against him is crap. You don't need a coach to get into someones face and yell at them to be a good coach.

Trufe.

I love Lovie, I hate our offensive line and defense. Babich sucks at football.

[highlander4]

I HATE Charles Woodson....

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Sweet first down.

[DMBZeppelin]

What a huge penalty for us.

[highlander4]

Trufe.

I love Lovie, I hate our offensive line and defense. Babich sucks at football.

PERFCECTLY said.

[DMBZeppelin]

A Brandon Lloyd sighting... weird.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

And once again we get nothing

[BotheDMBFan]

Oh, and Herm is probably the worst in football. Benching the best WR of all time...fucking moron.

[BotheDMBFan]

WHY IS URLACHER THE ONLY ONE THAT IS TRYING?!

Fuck.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Damn...I mean, Devin Hester got pretty much mauled, but we get called for that joke of a pass interference call at the end of the first half....We really haven't gotten a call all day long. Not to mention the play calling today is atrocious. Orton hasn't been very sharp but I just keep thinking that they just don't look like they care at all about winning this game.

[highlander4]

Mike Brown is bringing the lumber today...

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Ok. Bears are gonna loose. No doubt.

[BotheDMBFan]

Orton has looked fine, it's just that ourWRs suck.

[DMBZeppelin]

Here's a reason to not like Lovie. Daniel Manning is a FREE SAFETY!!!! Not a frickin' nickle or corner back. Seriously we've messed him up in the head so much. He has a ton of talent, but because he was a rookie, and lined up in the wrong defense in the Super Bowl (Mike Brown would always correct him earlier in the year, Chris Harris wasn't good at doing that because it was his second year.)

Ever since then they've been afraid to put him into his natural position. Which sucks, because he's a Pro Bowl talent there. I like Kevin Payne a LOT, but he's a strong safety. We have two strong safetys in Payne and Brown. Make Manning a Free Safety damnit.

[highlander4]

WHY IS URLACHER THE ONLY ONE THAT IS TRYING?!

Fuck.

Just Urlacher and Mike Brown today...

[DMBZeppelin]

Orton has looked fine, it's just that ourWRs suck.
Orton has had some bad throws, where if he throws it a little better it's a completion. Though I agree we don't have good receivers.

[BotheDMBFan]

Well, I'm taking his ankle injury into this (Yes, believe it or not, your ankle affects your throws, a lot). But he's looked just fine.

[Bron Yr Aur]

It's not in him anymore. The all time leader in receptions for SEC in Earl Bennett is inactive every week. We have better options then Devin. Because while we are turning Hester into an ok receiver. We got rid of the best weapon in football.

I think it's kind of stupid to really take issue with Devin Hester and little issues like this. Yeah he's having a subpar season and isn't a great receiver, but that is the least of our worries. The real problems the team has is the absolutely terrible play calling and management of the game...bonehead mistakes from the coaches as well as the players; and the defense, which has been pretty bad. Mostly because of the secondary. I mean, they are just bad bad bad. NOBODY should give up 400+ yards to Brian Griese.

[DMBZeppelin]

24-3? Well put in Rex and Garrett Wolfe. No reason to risk Orton screwing up his ankle anymore, and Forte did his job today. Save them for next week. I don't see how we win it.

[DMBZeppelin]

I think it's kind of stupid to really take issue with Devin Hester and little issues like this. Yeah he's having a subpar season and isn't a great receiver, but that is the least of our worries. The real problems the team has is the absolutely terrible play calling and management of the game...bonehead mistakes from the coaches as well as the players; and the defense, which has been pretty bad. Mostly because of the secondary. I mean, they are just bad bad bad. NOBODY should give up 400+ yards to Brian Griese.
I do take issue with it, when we keep throwing to Hester. He's gotta be wide open to catch a ball, he's not someone who likes taking big hits.

[BotheDMBFan]

Wolfe will win it for us.

[Ev42]

Just Urlacher and Mike Brown today...

yep brown sure is after they complete 15 yard passes in front of him.

[DMBZeppelin]

Well, I'm taking his ankle injury into this (Yes, believe it or not, your ankle affects your throws, a lot). But he's looked just fine.
Granted, but people didn't want to give Rex a mulligan for not having started since like November 2007 when he played the top defense last week. They expected perfect timing and what not.

While I don't expect Orton to be perfect, if he's healthy enough to play on the ankle and take all the hits he's had. I'd imagine he considered himself healthy enough to throw like he normally does.

Since the opening drive, I haven't seen Orton limp at all. I think it's not bothering him now, but tomorrow might be a different story. Hopefully they don't make him practice this week so he's 100% for the Rams game.

[Bron Yr Aur]

I do take issue with it, when we keep throwing to Hester. He's gotta be wide open to catch a ball, he's not someone who likes taking big hits.

I mean, I agree with you that we shouldn't put him in the position to have to catch a jump ball down the field like early in the game when he made that pass interference penalty, because he's way too small for that....However, I don't know why we aren't spreading the field and trying to create some space downfield to let Orton air it out more. Orton is at his best not on the short dump-off passes over the middle, but when he's throwing it down the field. I just don't get how we can have such a poor offensive game plan.

[BotheDMBFan]

Because Ron Turner wrote it.

[DMBZeppelin]

I mean, I agree with you that we shouldn't put him in the position to have to catch a jump ball down the field like early in the game when he made that pass interference penalty, because he's way too small for that....However, I don't know why we aren't spreading the field and trying to create some space downfield to let Orton air it out more. Orton is at his best not on the short dump-off passes over the middle, but when he's throwing it down the field. I just don't get how we can have such a poor offensive game plan.
Actually Orton's short game has been considered his strength, but they haven't gone downfield because Green Bay has EXCELLENT corners. He'd probably get picked off a lot. They should still go down field by throwing down the seam by getting Olsen and Clark on the linebackers. That way you can go deep, but avoid the corners.

Though I still don't know why we don't send Hester on more fly routes.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

this game sucks

[DMBZeppelin]

:lol Buck said he thinks they should put Rex in because Orton is a sitting duck by there.

Again I agree only because this game is over. No reason to risk Orton or Forte at this point.

[clcfball11]

False


While if Lovie wanted to, he could tell Turner what to do. He really doesn't do that. Because Lovie being a defensive coach, doesn't know jack about offense.


Who exactly have Harris and Urlacher pointed fingers at? I'm a guy who lives and breathes Chicago sports. I read the Suntimes, I listen the Score. I know what's going on. Harris has ALWAYS been very very very weird. He pointed fingers at the media this week, but not teammates. What did Urlacher do?


Contrary to popular belief, Lovie has yelled at his players. He doesn't do it often, and Lovie is never going to be a guy who is always screaming and yelling. That can only work for so often. These players are grown men will millions of dollars. Let me ask you this, I know you're only 20, but do you need your boss to yell at you everyday to do a better job? Wouldn't that eventually get old after a while?


Nope, despite how much you think Rex may suck in 2008. Tell me how he didn't lead them to the Super Bowl in 2006. Using actualy facts. "The defense did" is not a good answer.


He looks at the scoreboard probably because he's getting a close up look of what just happened during the last play. Honestly I do not like Lovie Smith as a head coach, but your case against him is crap. You don't need a coach to get into someones face and yell at them to be a good coach.

My biggest thing is that, to put it simply, there are lots of under-achieving players on this team right now. tommie harris leading the way. I didnt wanna sound like one of those assholes that think yelling and going crazy is the only thing that matters as a coach, because thats false...however, I feel if a team is under-achieving and we arent getting the most out of our players, it is at least partially the coach's fault.

[clcfball11]

Wolfe will win it for us.


Top 5 college backs of all time :thumbsup Give the man the rock!

[Ev42]

babche should be out.

[DMBZeppelin]

Ok 27-3... pull the starters. Though we'll probably keep them in, and if Orton gets hurt I'll be pissed.

[DMBZeppelin]

My biggest thing is that, to put it simply, there are lots of under-achieving players on this team right now. tommie harris leading the way. I didnt wanna sound like one of those assholes that think yelling and going crazy is the only thing that matters as a coach, because thats false...however, I feel if a team is under-achieving and we arent getting the most out of our players, it is at least partially the coach's fault.
Tommie Harris sucks because his legs are messed up, and I'm not sure they'll ever get healthy. They got messed up in Week 3 of 2007 by former 1st round draft pick of the Bears Marc Colombo. He did something dirty, I forget what exactly, but Harris hasn't been Harris since.

[DMBZeppelin]

:lol We pull Hester, but not Orton. Seriously this is a bad idea. If we don't have a shot at winning the game. Why risk the QB with the bad ankle? This makes no sense.

[DMBZeppelin]

Nice play by Davis to shake all those guys off.

[clcfball11]

Tommie Harris sucks because his legs are messed up, and I'm not sure they'll ever get healthy. They got messed up in Week 3 of 2007 by former 1st round draft pick of the Bears Marc Colombo. He did something dirty, I forget what exactly, but Harris hasn't been Harris since.

I partially agree, but I personally think it is something a bit more. As each season comes and goes, I have started to hold the opinion that Tommie is a bit of a wierd guy/headcase. As a reader of all things Chicago Sports, do you recall the big-ass newspaper article prior to the 2006 season in, I think, the Tribune about Harris and how he was very, very close to calling it quits in football and focusing on his Christian faith? As a Christian myself, I'm definitely not putting the man down for having a strong faith, but shit..And at the beginning of this year, he started that stuff again when he was asked about his slow start.. he just kept mentioning God to the media and he was trying to get things straight or something. I think he has a little bit of Ricky williams in him, except instead of a strong love for marijuana, it is a strong love for Jesus Christ. lol.

[BotheDMBFan]

Difference is, Ricky Williams is an actual genius.

[DMBZeppelin]

I partially agree, but I personally think it is something a bit more. As each season comes and goes, I have started to hold the opinion that Tommie is a bit of a wierd guy/headcase. As a reader of all things Chicago Sports, do you recall the big-ass newspaper article prior to the 2006 season in, I think, the Tribune about Harris and how he was very, very close to calling it quits in football and focusing on his Christian faith? As a Christian myself, I'm definitely not putting the man down for having a strong faith, but shit..And at the beginning of this year, he started that stuff again when he was asked about his slow start.. he just kept mentioning God to the media and he was trying to get things straight or something. I think he has a little bit of Ricky williams in him, except instead of a strong love for marijuana, it is a strong love for Jesus Christ. lol.
I don't remember that at all. Was this after when he was all depressed when he went down for the year?

The shit about God this year, was because he took it pretty hard when he got that girl pregnant. Having a child out of wedlock messed with his head being that he is a man of faith.

[DMBZeppelin]

Damn Orton, if he hadn't tried tripping the guy it be 4th and 5.

[DMBZeppelin]

How the hell did Orton fumble that ball?

[jaking1185]

There's the icing!

[devilandthelord]

If you were to look at the Bears and Packers running stats without knowing who's the names or what team they played for, I bet you most people would think it'd be Forte with 142 yards against the Pack and Grant with 64 against the Bears.
Not the other way around. :(

[DMBZeppelin]

I've never seen a fumble like that. It hits him in the hands, looks like he got it. Goes to take it up by his head, and just dropped it. That was just weird, and a poor play by Kyle. I wonder if he was rushing himself worrying about getting the ball off in time? I don't know.

[devilandthelord]

Yikes, this is bad.

[DMBZeppelin]

WOW WOW WOW WOW! What a great return by Manning, he fought for like 15 yards of that. Just insane.

[DMBZeppelin]

Damnit a big run called back for holding. Tait's first of the year no less.

[DMBZeppelin]

Wow, that was actually a nice play by Rex to not get sacked.

[clcfball11]

I don't remember that at all. Was this after when he was all depressed when he went down for the year?

The shit about God this year, was because he took it pretty hard when he got that girl pregnant. Having a child out of wedlock messed with his head being that he is a man of faith.

Damn my questionable memory! I am prettyyyy sure it was prior to the super bowl season, but you may be right my friend. It might have been after his season ending injury in 06. Either way, just saying he has that gene in him where I am not exactly sure he is completely emotionally stable. And your point about him knocking up that broad, I suppose thats understandable.:thumbsup


EDIT: I just remembered what it was! It was an article written about Harris BEFORE he went down with the injury in 2006. It was about how well he was doing, and all of that, probably when we were still undefeated. A portion of the article described the fact that it was "a season that almost never was" because Tommie nearly quit football prior to the season. That is it, and I am 100% sure haha

[DMBZeppelin]

Damn my questionable memory! I am prettyyyy sure it was prior to the super bowl season, but you may be right my friend. It might have been after his season ending injury in 06. Either way, just saying he has that gene in him where I am not exactly sure he is completely emotionally stable. And your point about him knocking up that broad, I suppose thats understandable.:thumbsup
Given all that, I'm still with you he's a weird guy.

[BustedStuff87]

Let the hicks have their celebration. We'll fuck em' up when the come to Soldier Field, where we have the chance to end their season.

p.s. Hester at WR = :BANG

[DMBZeppelin]

Those son of a bitches. Just let the game end, run the ball.

[jaking1185]

Let the hicks have their celebration. We'll fuck em' up when the come to Soldier Field, where we have the chance to end their season.

p.s. Hester at WR = :BANG

Are you really that confident about that?

[TwoStep2888]

lollllllll

[DMBZeppelin]

Let the hicks have their celebration. We'll fuck em' up when the come to Soldier Field, where we have the chance to end their season.

p.s. Hester at WR = :BANG
I doubt it, they were clearly the better team. Now that may change by the time we get to seasons end, but at this point in the season they are clearly more balanced then we are. While I do like Forte more then Grant. You could argue Grant is better then Forte. But Rodgers, while I don't like him, is better then Orton. Receiving wise, lets not even joke.

[DMBZeppelin]

Are you really that confident about that?
Eh, you know how it goes. You suffer a big loss like this. You need to talk yourself up to make it seem not so bad "Ya we'll get them in Chicago."

[BustedStuff87]

Are you really that confident about that?

...yes

[TwoStep2888]

...yes

...lol

[clayj41]

That Monday night game in Chicago is going to be a tough game for the Packers to win. Let's live in the now though. The now is a thing of beauty! :D

[jaking1185]

Eh, you know how it goes. You suffer a big loss like this. You need to talk yourself up to make it seem not so bad "Ya we'll get them in Chicago."

Yeah, we have had to do that a lot this year. I always enjoy playing the Bears win or lose. We just had everything working today.

[clayj41]

Does Joe Buck pronounce the name "Daniel" as "Danielle?" :BANG

[clcfball11]

On a positive note, the Vikings are currently losing...

[BustedStuff87]

Is there a loop hole in Hester's contract where we can get back some of the money we paid him???

[clcfball11]

Does Joe Buck pronounce the name "Daniel" as "Danielle?" :BANG

I actually think thats correct pronunciation. Its spelled "Daniael" or something close to that.

[highlander4]

What a TERRIBLE game....

[clayj41]

On a positive note, the Vikings are currently losing...

That's positive for everybody!

[clayj41]

I actually think thats correct pronunciation. Its spelled "Daniael" or something close to that.

Hmmm...I've just always called him Daniel Manning.

[jaking1185]

Good game today. It was just our week.

[devilandthelord]

So, uh worst game of the season?

[BustedStuff87]

So with 6 games left, we've got a 3-way tie for the division and we have 2 left against the Vikings and Packers. Then have the Rams, Jaguars, Saints, and Texans. At least it's gonna be an entertaining end to the regular-season.

[UCFish]

Wow glad I was working.

Looked horrible on Gamecast.

[Tiduwho]

Pretty bad.

[BotheDMBFan]

Fuck our team.

[gocubsgo3822]

terrible... cant retun texts mike u dick....

had a hot ass asisan witer whose number i got at the bar iw as at today... thats the upside...

[DMBZeppelin]

Been listening to a lot of the post game stuff, especially with what fans are saying. Two questions everyone has, and it's hard to argue with either.

- How does Babich have a job?
- Why didn't Rex start?

[BotheDMBFan]

terrible... cant retun texts mike u dick....

had a hot ass asisan witer whose number i got at the bar iw as at today... thats the upside...

So, you only hate black people? Or just, you hate darkies with penises?

[TwoStep2888]

I really want to gloat, but I like the majority of you Chicago people. :shrug

hey, gocubsgo, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKER YOUR TEAM LOST LMAO

hey, the rest of you, tough game, guys. Better luck next time. :)

[gocubsgo3822]

So, you only hate black people? Or just, you hate darkies with penises?

no i dont hate black people.. never have...

[gocubsgo3822]

I really want to gloat, but I like the majority of you Chicago people. :shrug

hey, gocubsgo, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKER YOUR TEAM LOST LMAO

hey, the rest of you, tough game, guys. Better luck next time. :)

see i would most likely report this for being harrassing but unlike u and your douchebag colleagues i actually believe in free speech and dont get offended...

[BotheDMBFan]

no i dont hate black people.. never have...

I don't believe you.

[gocubsgo3822]

Our run defense sucked today.. absoultely terrible.. Urlacher looks slow and shit lovie needs to go he is jsut a turrible coach

[DMBZeppelin]

I really want to gloat, but I like the majority of you Chicago people. :shrug

hey, gocubsgo, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKER YOUR TEAM LOST LMAO

hey, the rest of you, tough game, guys. Better luck next time. :)
:lol Jon has turned himself into one of the most hated people on these boards.
no i dont hate black people.. never have...
You just think they should work for free. That's why people think you hate black people.

[gocubsgo3822]

I don't believe you.

i dont really care if you believe me or not Bo.. i know how i feel and i have shared every single one of my beliefs about obama and race relations with my close black friends and my boss.. they understand where i come from

[BotheDMBFan]

i dont really care if you believe me or not Bo.. i know how i feel and i have shared every single one of my beliefs about obama and race relations with my close black friends and my boss.. they understand where i come from


That right there shows me that you don't have black friends. You may have people you know that are black, but...yeah. You hate darkies. It's cool dude. I hate Polish people. Fuck those guys.

[BotheDMBFan]

:lol Jon has turned himself into one of the most hated people on these boards.

You just think they should work for free. That's why people think you hate black people.

You fucking racist Zach.

[gocubsgo3822]

:lol Jon has turned himself into one of the most hated people on these boards.

You just think they should work for free. That's why people think you hate black people.

i dont really care... no i think that all people should work

[devilandthelord]

That right there shows me that you don't have black friends. You may have people you know that are black, but...yeah. You hate darkies. It's cool dude. I hate Polish people. Fuck those guys.

You'd have a lot of enemies if you ever came back to Chicago.

[BotheDMBFan]

You'd have a lot of enemies if you ever came back to Chicago.

You'd be amazed. Polish people are like battered wives. You abuse the shit out of them, and they love you even more.

[DMBZeppelin]

i dont really care... no i think that all people should work
It was regarding your avatar. The South fought for their right to keep slaves. So they broke from the North and we had the civil war. You've made it pretty clear you support the south, which is the same as supporting slavery. Add that in with some of your Obama comments, and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

[devilandthelord]

You'd be amazed. Polish people are like battered wives. You abuse the shit out of them, and they love you even more.

I think I get you know, Bo.
You just save all your racism and hate for Polish people. :lol

[BotheDMBFan]

I think I get you know, Bo.
You just save all your racism and hate for Polish people. :lol

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call them "PEOPLE" but, whatever floats your boat.

[gocubsgo3822]

That right there shows me that you don't have black friends. You may have people you know that are black, but...yeah. You hate darkies. It's cool dude. I hate Polish people. Fuck those guys.

ok you are correct i am incorrect. I didnt have a best friend named demetrius for three years til he went away... u are correct

[BotheDMBFan]

ok you are correct i am incorrect. I didnt have a best friend named demetrius for three years til he went away... u are correct

All you had to say.

[devilandthelord]

ok you are correct i am incorrect. I didnt have a best friend named demetrius for three years til he went away... u are correct

Cuz u killed him cuz u hate teh blacks.

[TwoStep2888]

no, of course i'm not a racist piece of shit. according to my BLACK friend,

[gocubsgo3822]

It was regarding your avatar. The South fought for their right to keep slaves. So they broke from the North and we had the civil war. You've made it pretty clear you support the south, which is the same as supporting slavery. Add that in with some of your Obama comments, and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.


i dont want to debate the confederate flag i came in here to talk the bears... and those comments about obama rubbed people wrong becuase they were all truthful statements

[BustedStuff87]

Since no one's talking about the Bears. Young Jeezy was at my school yesterday. Never seen so many arrests on the streets, from my friends apartment window off the main road, within in an hour after the concert ended.

[UCFish]

terrible... cant retun texts mike u dick....

had a hot ass asisan witer whose number i got at the bar iw as at today... thats the upside...

Was working bitch

[gocubsgo3822]

Cuz u killed him cuz u hate teh blacks.

no posession with intent to distribute but yea....

[devilandthelord]

no posession with intent to distribute but yea....

Possession of your hands around his neck.
Hate crimer.

[gocubsgo3822]

Was working bitch

:lol:lol:lol:lol

we will go to the same bar i went to today when you are down for my gradation... great fucking beer deals and great food.....

and we are getting dad wrecked

[gocubsgo3822]

Possession of your hands around his neck.
Hate crimer.

i would do that to lovie right now... u cock sucker... And urlacher while we are at it

[UCFish]

Sounds fun.

Bought my tix yesterday.

coming for sure.

About time I made it out there.

[gocubsgo3822]

if i continue at the current rate of posting i could have the post lead in here also within a week

[BotheDMBFan]

Possession of your hands around his neck.
Hate crimer.

Ok guys, let's ease up on him. Let's hate on Babich again.

[UCFish]

Don't do it.

Your posts are mostly worthless anyway.

[gocubsgo3822]

Sounds fun.

Bought my tix yesterday.

coming for sure.

About time I made it out there.
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup shits going to be absurd

[BotheDMBFan]

i would do that to lovie right now... u cock sucker... And urlacher while we are at it

Urlacher is the only one out there actually, you know, trying.

[gocubsgo3822]

Don't do it.

Your posts are mostly worthless anyway.


they ha a sick pass rush today.. i actually thought we ran the ball alright was upset to see us get way from it... the problem was the penalties...

[DMBZeppelin]

if i continue at the current rate of posting i could have the post lead in here also within a week
doubtful

[gocubsgo3822]

Urlacher is the only one out there actually, you know, trying.


he is but he is not the same not at all.... he ha looked slow all year and the cover two is just not working for us.. ALso was alex brown injured today or did we just not play him @ all becuase of anderson being back

[DMBZeppelin]

he is but he is not the same not at all.... he ha looked slow all year and the cover two is just not working for us.. ALso was alex brown injured today or did we just not play him @ all becuase of anderson being back
Had to be hurt I'm guessing

Brown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anderson

[gocubsgo3822]

Had to be hurt I'm guessing

Brown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anderson

concurred

[BotheDMBFan]

Anderson just needs to learn fundamentals, he'll be great one day.

[DMBZeppelin]

Anderson just needs to learn fundamentals, he'll be great one day.
No the Bears ruined him. He couldn't defend the run, and now he doesn't know how to pass rush anymore. Just like they screwed up D. Manning, honestly that draft amazes me.

2006 Draft Picks
Round 2 - Danieal Manning (S)
Round 2 - Devin Hester (WR/KR/PR)
Round 3 - Dusty Dvoracek (DT)
Round 4 - Jamar Williams (LB)
Round 5 - Mark Anderson (DE)
Round 6 - J.D. Runnels (FB)
Round 6 - Tyler Reed (OG)

Honestly everyone but Runnels and Reed were extremely talented. Your first 5 round draft picks should all be starting. We screwed up Manning so badly I can't believe it. We turned the most explosive player in the NFL to a so-so receiver. Dusty just got hurt too much, but he doesn't even look as good as he did to start the season. Why is Roach starting over Jamar?! Mark Anderson was a VERY special pass rusher, we ruined him.

[darbini]

Orton sucks and makes the offense look anemic, put Rex is for crying out loud. How many overthrown/underthrown balls did Orton have yesterday? His best completions were those short ones where the receiver ran after the catch and avoided tackles. It is a complete waste of time to keep Orton in the game once he starts.:)

[DMBZeppelin]

Orton sucks and makes the offense look anemic, put Rex is for crying out loud. How many overthrown/underthrown balls did Orton have yesterday? His best completions were those short ones where the receiver ran after the catch and avoided tackles. It is a complete waste of time to keep Orton in the game once he starts.:)
In all fairness to Orton, he had no business starting. He was limited in the type of throws he could make. There were FOUR JUST FOUR completions to receivers in yesterdays game. How is that possible?

The scary thing about that? Two of those passes were from Rex. One to Lloyd, and the other to Hester. So Orton played basically the entire game, and managed 2 passes to wide receivers. That's sad, and tells me he was not healthy. Which you could see on the first drive.

Now since we rushed Orton back out there, it looked like he tweaked the ankle some at times. You have to wonder if A.) He'll be available for the St. Louis game and B.) If we even want him out there. Kyle Orton with one leg is not better then Rex.

I know some in here like to give Rex shit. Consider he hadn't started since Nov. 2007 and still did ok against an elite defense in the Titans. The Packers weren't an elite defense. It was very obvious from Rex two series, he was able to get away from the pressure. Orton was a sitting duck, probably re-aggrivated his injury. He didn't have any touch, and that's how we wound up with 13/26 for 133 Yards (5.1 AVG).

[BotheDMBFan]

In all fairness, Hester especially, dropped or just missed A LOT of easy passes. I didn't see Rex play (They switched the game, thank the fuck Christ) but I hear that he did OK.

[BustedStuff87]

Ha! I just remembered. I saw Mike Brown at the Cheesecake Factory Friday night as i was leaving, and as he passed me, i said "Good look Sunday Mike." and he said "thanks" and smiled. I guess I'm never doing that again.

[UCFish]

Go Bears today!!!

[Bron Yr Aur]

No the Bears ruined him. He couldn't defend the run, and now he doesn't know how to pass rush anymore. Just like they screwed up D. Manning, honestly that draft amazes me.

2006 Draft Picks
Round 2 - Danieal Manning (S)
Round 2 - Devin Hester (WR/KR/PR)
Round 3 - Dusty Dvoracek (DT)
Round 4 - Jamar Williams (LB)
Round 5 - Mark Anderson (DE)
Round 6 - J.D. Runnels (FB)
Round 6 - Tyler Reed (OG)

Honestly everyone but Runnels and Reed were extremely talented. Your first 5 round draft picks should all be starting. We screwed up Manning so badly I can't believe it. We turned the most explosive player in the NFL to a so-so receiver. Dusty just got hurt too much, but he doesn't even look as good as he did to start the season. Why is Roach starting over Jamar?! Mark Anderson was a VERY special pass rusher, we ruined him.

I don't know how you can say the team did anything to screw up Hester. He just hasn't been that good this year. You can't put that on the team. You have to lay the responsibility on the player once in a while...he just hasn't had the explosiveness on the kick and punt returns and isn't made to be a big time receiver. I think they should utilize his quickness on offense more, because he can lose defenders pretty well with his quick moves, but I still don't think you can say that the team has had much of anything to do with Hester's season.

[Tiduwho]

Who needs Hester? Daniel Manning almost takes it to the house...damn.

[DMBZeppelin]

What a return by D. Manning

[Tiduwho]

Who needs Hester? We do. Good work Hester.