Da Bears

[kittensXLI]

That's Bill Bidwell's fault.

[BotheDMBFan]

That's Bill Bidwell's fault.

I'm aware. Through this, why would you think they would bring in Palmer, who will demand a huge contract?

[kittensXLI]

Palmer could easily finish his career with them. He's one of the best quarterbacks in the league. It'd solidify a position for them that has almost always been poor.

[BotheDMBFan]

I agree, Im just saying I don't see him going there.

[kittensXLI]

I agree, Im just saying I don't see him going there.
Oh, I doubt he will also. It's just what I want to happen. If Arizona can win their division next year, and Palmer is available the following year, that'd be a pretty big incentive for him to want to play there. Obviously the last thing he wants to do is get stuck in another dump like Cincinnati.

[BustedStuff87]

Bears agree to terms with free agent lineman Omiyale

By: Larry Mayer | Last Updated: 2/27/2009 2:51 PM

LAKE FOREST, Ill. – Just a few hours into free agency, the Bears on Friday agreed to a four-year contract with offensive lineman Frank Omiyale. Terms were not disclosed.

Omiyale, who’s capable of playing tackle and guard, appeared in 10 games with one start last season for the Carolina Panthers. The 6-4, 310-pounder entered the NFL in 2005 as a fifth-round draft pick with the Atlanta Falcons.


Frank Omiyale
“We wanted to upgrade our offensive line, and we feel we’ve done that with Frank,” said coach Lovie Smith. “We’re getting a big, athletic offensive lineman. He’s versatile. We evaluated him on tape and liked what we saw.”

Omiyale, 26, made his lone start last season at left tackle in a 34-0 win over the Kansas City Chiefs. The Panthers rushed for 205 yards and two TDs on 48 carries in that contest.

Omiyale appeared in one game in two seasons with the Falcons before being waived by Atlanta on Sept. 1, 2007. The Tennessee Tech product was claimed off waivers by the Panthers, but he was inactive for all 16 games in 2007.

“I know he hasn’t played a lot, but watching him on tape, his tape kind of spoke for itself,” Smith said. “He’s a good player. He’s athletic and he plays with power. Normally you don’t find a guy like that.”

Omiyale will give the Bears depth and flexibility. They’re still attempting to re-sign veteran free-agent tackle John St. Clair and could also address the offensive line in the draft.

Smith was non-committal when asked where Omiyale will line up.

“We have options,” said the Bears coach. “We’re trying to sign St. Clair. [Omiyale] could play guard or tackle. He’s started at left tackle, and playing left tackle you know he can play right tackle, too. He also can play guard. We’re keeping our options open. We’re just going to see exactly how it all plays out.”

Russ Ehrenfeld, who was Omiyale’s position coach at Tennessee Tech, called the offensive lineman “a quality person” who “you want your son to grow up and be like.”

“He’s young in the league because he hasn’t been on the field a whole bunch,” said Ehrenfeld, now the offensive line coach at Tennessee-Chattanooga. “I think he’s got tremendous upside.

“You’re getting a great player. He’s going to do a great job up there. He’s a guy that you don’t ever have to worry about. He’s going to be where he’s supposed to be. He’s going to work hard. He’s going to be in the weight room. He’s going to do all the things that you’re supposed to do to become a successful NFL player."

Let's hope he makes a difference.

[BustedStuff87]

And the Cowboys looking to deal S Roy Williams. We should look into him.

[DMBZeppelin]

And the Cowboys looking to deal S Roy Williams. We should look into him.
Isn't Williams a SS? We need a FS. Plus I don't think Williams is a good fit for this system.

[BustedStuff87]

Isn't Williams a SS? We need a FS. Plus I don't think Williams is a good fit for this system.

He's a FS. That's why he's always around knocking the shit out of people with his helmet.

I don't know who else is out there that the Bears could stick there, besides Steltz. But I don't know what he can do.

[BotheDMBFan]

I thought they were trying to trade BOTH Roy Williams'

[JTRocks]

He's a FS. That's why he's always around knocking the shit out of people with his helmet.

I don't know who else is out there that the Bears could stick there, besides Steltz. But I don't know what he can do.

yeah, he hasnt knocked the shit out of anyone since 2006. He was injured this year but had a rough couple years before that. I have a few friends that are huge dallas fans and they couldnt be happier to see him go. He also cant cover anyone anymore either, which i dont know if i can deal with at this point. Not that i'm saying craig steltz is any better, but i think one of the few strengths Jerry Angelo has with his drafting, its at DB.

[Tiduwho]

And the Cowboys looking to deal S Roy Williams. We should look into him.

No. No. No.


Are you SERIOUS? Not only is he a POS, he's BAD. His skills are deteriorating faster than Adam Archuleta.

[UCFish]

Archuleta.....god I hated him. He would just bounce right off people.

[DMBZeppelin]

Darren Sharper on the Chicago Bears' radar

The Bears need a safety and might find one by raiding a division rival.

According to Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the Bears are in the mix for Vikings veteran Darren Sharper (http://www.twincities.com/ci_11808724). Sharper is set to visit New Orleans on Monday.

The Bears got rid of one veteran when they decided to part ways with Mike Brown. Adding Sharper makes some sense, but he's on the decline at age 33. He is a four-time Pro Bowl section, but Bears fans might remember how Devin Hester blew by him for a 65-yard touchdown this past season.

Sharper, also an ex-Packer, had a war of words with Rex Grossman during the 2007 season.

The free-agent safety class continues to shrink with Brian Dawkins, Eugene Wilson, and Will Allen off the market, to name a few. Jermaine Phillips from Tampa Bay has yet to sign a contract.

[DMBZeppelin]

T.J. Houshmandzadeh headed to the Minnesota?

Our good friend Sean Jensen from the St. Paul Pioneer Press says T.J. Houshmandzadeh is expected& to meet with the Vikings (http://blogs.twincities.com/Vikings/2009/02/tj_on_way_to_minnesota.html). The coveted receiver was in Seattle on Friday.

As far as we know, the Bears are not in the mix. General manager Jerry Angelo said he plans to do some window shopping with no rush to spend. But expect the Bears to bring in a veteran safety if there is one out there worth the money.

If the Vikings land T.J. alongside Bernard Berrian, the Bears will need all the secondary help they can get.

[DMBZeppelin]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-1666/Spurned-Cutler-wants-to-be-traded.html

Source: Spurned Cutler wants to be traded

The Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) may have seriously damaged their relationship with quarterback Jay Cutler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9597).

A source close to the situation confirmed the Broncos were trying to acquire quarterback Matt Cassel (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8644) from the New England Patriots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe) by dangling Cutler, their Pro Bowl quarterback.

The trade talk infuriated Cutler, who now wants to leave the Broncos.

The source said the proposed trade was a three-way deal that would have sent Cassel to Denver to reunite with former Patriots offensive coordinator and new Denver head coach Josh McDaniels, Cutler to Tampa Bay and compensation from Tampa Bay to New England.

Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1257) were traded Saturday to Denver's AFC West rival Kansas City for a second-round pick.

A source close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Broncos pursued the trade because McDaniels wanted to be reunited with Cassel, who excelled under McDaniels last season as an injury replacement for Tom Brady (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2330).

In the aftermath of the trade Saturday, Cutler asked permission to find his own trade partner but was denied by the Broncos, according to the source. Cutler is still hopeful he will be traded because he feels betrayed by McDaniels, the source said.

The source said Denver is no longer interested in dealing Cutler, who made the Pro Bowl in 2008, his second full season as a starter. The source said Tampa Bay, Detroit and Chicago could be possible destinations if Cutler gets his way and is traded. The source pointed out that until Cutler heard about the trade talks Saturday, he was completely happy playing for McDaniels and being in Denver.

It may be difficult for Denver to trade Cutler now because there are no other quality quarterbacks available. It would be silly to trade him to the Lions for the No. 1 overall pick and try to draft Georgia's Matthew Stafford or USC's Mark Sanchez. Neither of those players is a known commodity, while Cutler has blossomed into one of the NFL's better quarterbacks.

Denver has to regain Cutler's trust immediately or this could turn into one of the NFL's uglier situations.

The source said that while Denver hopes to smooth the situation over, Cutler probably will seek to depart Denver as a restricted free agent in two years. Cutler signed a six-year deal with the Broncos after he was drafted with the No. 11 overall pick in 2006.

The source said Cutler was hurt by the news that McDaniels wanted to start his Denver tenure with Cassel and not him.

"The relationship has been tarnished," the source said. "I think it's beyond repair."

Cutler expressed displeasure when Denver fired coach Mike Shanahan in December. However, he has been publicly supportive of McDaniels and had several good meetings with the coach in the weeks since McDaniels took over. The source said Cutler was confused by the trade talk.

"It's like a knife to Jay's heart," the source said. "It will be hard for him to get past this."

McDaniels will be able to get past this issue, but it may take some time. The Broncos sold McDaniels' hiring as a chance for Cutler to flourish. Seven weeks later, the pairing has taken a sudden and potentially disastrous turn.

[DMBZeppelin]

Like... If Jerry Angelo isn't a complete idiot. He will do EVERYTHING in his power to get Cutler. The Bears have one thing, some of these other teams don't. They have a serviceable guy in Orton. He's not a franchise QB, but maybe the Bronco's go for it if we give them Orton and a 1st or 2nd round pick. Honestly I'd give them next years first and Orton. If Cutler came here, he needs a WR and LT. Seriously that's it. Then we're legit if Marinelli fixes the D-line like many think he can.

Like.... Jay Cutler on the Bears? I can't even imagine how amazing that be. He'd easily be one of the best QB's in the NFC.

[Tiduwho]

I would love Cutler. I just can't see Jerry pulling the drigger. Ever.

[DMBZeppelin]

I would love Cutler. I just can't see Jerry pulling the drigger. Ever.
With all the shit he talked though about how it all starts with the QB and needing to get it right. I just think it's the perfect time for Cutler to be available. The Bears will make the playoffs with Cutler as their QB.

I mean if Angelo doesn't go after the 25 year old pro bowl QB. He's an idiot. There's no smarts involved here. He's got the arm to play in Chicago, and it beats say trying to go after Bradford or whoever in the 2010 draft.

[DMBCubs25]

With all the shit he talked though about how it all starts with the QB and needing to get it right. I just think it's the perfect time for Cutler to be available. The Bears will make the playoffs with Cutler as their QB.

I mean if Angelo doesn't go after the 25 year old pro bowl QB. He's an idiot. There's no smarts involved here. He's got the arm to play in Chicago, and it beats say trying to go after Bradford or whoever in the 2010 draft.

No chance in hell Angelo makes this happen, everyone in the organization is an idiot for the most part, orton will be the bears qb in 09, guarantee

[DMBZeppelin]

Jones has suitors but wants to stay with Bears

Kevin Jones never used his knee as an excuse last season, but he was eight months removed from surgery to repair a torn right anterior cruciate ligament when the season began.

Now the running back is ready to show what kind of player he still is five years after being a first-round pick of the Detroit Lions.

''This is Kevin Jones' comeback year,'' Jones said Saturday from Blacksburg, Va., where he was visiting former college teammates at Virginia Tech. ''Whatever opportunity I get, it's going to happen.''

The Bears have offered him a contract to return, and he has received interest from the Buffalo Bills, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, ''pretty much all the teams that need backs right now,'' Jones said. He doesn't have any scheduled visits and isn't putting a timetable on the process as he searches for a new deal with agent Drew Rosenhaus, whom he hired last season.

The Bears used Jones sparingly, giving him 34 carries while Matt Forte got the bulk of the work. Jones was inactive for four games before going to Lovie Smith's office and asking for an opportunity to play special teams. He made an immediate impact in that role, and his role on offense might expand if he returns. General manager Jerry Angelo and Smith have said they want to have more of a two-back attack.

''I've been telling you all along, and you may have thought, 'This kid is crazy,' during last year, I want to come back to the Bears,'' Jones said. ''I like the staff; I like all the teammates. If you want an example of what an NFL team should be like, the coaching staff, everything, that's it. I'd love to be back, but sometimes business gets in the way.

''It's a negotiation process, and I am making sure I am in the right situation. The Bears expressed interest and I want to be back, but we've got to hammer out the paperwork. We'll see what happens.''

Jones would be in the mix with former third-round pick Garrett Wolfe to pick up some of Forte's work. Forte was fourth in the league with 316 carries.

The Bears also are taking a wait-and-see approach with offensive lineman John St. Clair. Angelo expressed a desire to re-sign him, but it's not believed the team has moved off the original offer it made Feb. 13.

[DMBZeppelin]

Given everything I know, with how pissed he was to be inactive at times last year. I can't believe Jones wants to stay. Especially with Forte here.

[BotheDMBFan]

Frankly, I respect the hell out of him now.

[Tiduwho]

I mean, he really is a solid backup running back. I don't know why people keep saying a backup running back is a need. It's really not.

[kittensXLI]

Kevin Jones could/should be starting in this league. I'd take him as a backup or a #2 in a timeshare any day of the week.

[DMBZeppelin]

Crabtree to have surgery March 4

Michael Crabtree (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&id=24682) won't perform in front of NFL scouts at his school's pro day later this month, opting to have surgery on a stress fracture in his left foot on March 4.

Crabtree, the top-rated receiver in this year's draft, will have surgery in Charlotte, N.C., to insert a screw.

"After thorough consideration and discussion with my advisors and doctors, I decided to have the surgery, rather than risk any further injury," Crabtree said in a statement Sunday. "As a competitor, I wanted to run at my pro day, but it became clear that the best thing for me is to have the surgery and be ready to get on the field as soon as possible."

Texas Tech's pro day is scheduled for March 26.

Rehabilitation is expected to take 10 weeks or more.

There already are questions about how his condition might affect his draft status. Before the combine, most projected the record-setting Texas Tech receiver to be among the top five picks.

But he measured 6-foot-1 -- two inches shorter than his listed height at Texas Tech, creating a potential concern for teams that thought he fit the mold of a taller receiver such as Randy Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1433) or Larry Fitzgerald (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5528).

There could be additional questions about his durability. Crabtree spent part of last season dealing with a right ankle injury and now there are questions about his foot.

With none of the usual statistics to evaluate -- such as the 40-yard dash and 20-yard shuttle -- scouts could have a difficult time assessing Crabtree against such receivers as Missouri's Jeremy Maclin (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&id=24673) or Florida's Percy Harvin (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&id=24688).

"He has a history, and his history is pretty good," Chicago Bears (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi) coach Lovie Smith said last month at the combine. "I think he'll be OK."

In the past two seasons at Texas Tech, Crabtree has put together a résumé worthy of being the first receiver selected in April.

He won the Biletnikoff Award as the nation's top receiver each of the past two years, the first repeat winner since the honor was established in 1994. He also earned All-America honors the past two seasons.

As a freshman, Crabtree caught 134 passes for 1,962 yards and 22 TDs -- all national bests and NCAA freshman records. Last season, he caught another 97 passes for 1,165 yards and 19 touchdowns despite being slowed by the ankle injury.

[DMBZeppelin]

That made me laugh because Lovie for whatever reason is the guy they interviewed for this. Though it be hilarious if all this crap caused him to be available when the Bears pick.

[BotheDMBFan]

Oh my God. If Crabtree fell to us....I would create a shrine to Mel Kiper.

[JTRocks]

Read this earlier, figured I would share it in here.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/93179-cutler-not-in-bears-future

Doesnt surprise me at all, but then again, it is still early in the game, and i wouldnt be surprised if this dragged on to the draft.

the one thing that kinda makes me like our chances, should the bears go after him, is that Denver doesnt have a ton of cap space and they probly wont trade for a top 10 or even 15 pick who will be demanding a huge contract. But, the bears management are a bunch of fucking morons, so I will never get my hopes up about this even happening until I hear that Angelo is actually making an attempt at making the trade

[DMBZeppelin]

Read this earlier, figured I would share it in here.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/93179-cutler-not-in-bears-future

Doesnt surprise me at all, but then again, it is still early in the game, and i wouldnt be surprised if this dragged on to the draft.

the one thing that kinda makes me like our chances, should the bears go after him, is that Denver doesnt have a ton of cap space and they probly wont trade for a top 10 or even 15 pick who will be demanding a huge contract. But, the bears management are a bunch of fucking morons, so I will never get my hopes up about this even happening until I hear that Angelo is actually making an attempt at making the trade
God forbid we piss someone off who won't be here in a few years. Right now someone needs to sell their soul so the following happens:

1. Culter to the Bears for our 2010 1st round pick
2. WR Crabtree falls to the Bears at 18, so he needs more bad press
3. WR Heyward-Bey is available in the 2nd round and we draft him
4. We find a decent tackle in the 3rd round

I doubt it would happen, but like I said someone needs to sell their soul... mainly Jerry Angelo.

[BotheDMBFan]

Jon's going to hell anyways probably, maybe we can get him to do it.

[DMBZeppelin]

Jon's going to hell anyways probably, maybe we can get him to do it.
Could you imagine the offense?

QB - Cutler
RB - Forte, Jones, Wolfe
WR - Crabtree, Heyward-Bey, Hester
TE - Clark, Olsen, Davis

Those would be the main guys getting playing time... it be CRAZY.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'd be ok if we didn't get Bey, but, holy shit.

Granted, our O-Line would still suck, but whatever.

[DMBZeppelin]

I'd be ok if we didn't get Bey, but, holy shit.

Granted, our O-Line would still suck, but whatever.
I think if we re-sign St. Clair it will be just average. We can work on beefing that up in 2010. Hopefully teams couldn't blitz so much with that many weapons.

[DMBZeppelin]

Source says Jason Taylor won't play for Bears

Sorry, ladies. Jason Taylor (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/jason-taylor-PESPT008445.topic) won't be dancing around these parts in the near future.

The pass-rush specialist was released by Washington on Monday after one season with the Redskins. But Monday night, a source close to Taylor said the free-agent defensive end had no interest in playing for the Bears (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/chicago-bears-ORSPT000036.topic).

Taylor, who earned national recognition as a finalist on "Dancing With the Stars," would have been an intriguing option for a Bears team in dire need of an improved pass rush. Although he struggled through a calf injury last season, Taylor has 1201/2 career sacks, 117 stemming from his Miami days.

The 34-year-old Taylor was due $8 million next season but could be a bargain now.
Taylor and Bears end Adewale Ogunleye (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/adewale-ogunleye-PESPT005535.topic) played together with the Dolphins and combined for 28 sacks during the 2003 season. A reunion of the pair might have revived their careers.

The Redskins reportedly wanted to add a workout clause to Taylor's hefty contract that would have required him to take part in 25 days of off-season workouts. He declined.

"He wanted to spend the off-season with his family," said Taylor's agent, Gary Wichard.

[DMBZeppelin]

Cassel, Cutler, Houshmanhowyoudoin': Don't call the Bears, they're not calling you

The Bears apparently have no interest in Denver quarterback Jay Cutler (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/03/jay-cutler-and-chicago-bears-are-no-match.html), who's screaming mad over the Broncos trying to acquire Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_11815666).

Cutler's agent said he has heard nothing from the Bears in the wake of Cutler's allegedly demanding a trade.

Remember how Bears general manager Jerry Angelo said the entire franchise is "fixated" on getting the quarterback thing right?

Well, lemme ask you something: How can you not place a call to a Pro Bowl quarterback's agent, just to find out what's true and what's not?

Same goes for Cassel. Look, Kyle Orton is not better than either of those guys after what I saw this season, and even the quarterback-challenged Bears have to see that. And they can't use some rollover minutes to find out who and how much?

When do the Bears react? When Cutler becomes a Viking? I mean, if you're the Bears and Cassel was on the market and Cutler might be, and you don't make a run at the most important position on the roster, you need to be fired.

If you want to tell me wide receiver isn't a draft need, then fine, OK, it's laughable unless you get T.J. Houshmandzadeh, but apparently the Bears aren't booking flights for him the way the Vikings are.

(Sidebar: The Houshmandzadeh thing isn't all the Bears' fault, but then, it is. The guy said he wanted to play for a team where he could make a difference. Bears dissed. And yet, Houshmandzadeh is considering the Seahawks. 'Scuse me? Either T.J. or the Bears needs to have "idiot" stamped on their forehead.)

The quarterback thing, though, the thing that Angelo can't get right, is something else. Next time Angelo tells you the entire franchise is "fixated" on solving the quarterback thing, tell him the rest of us are "fixated" on the Bears' telling the truth and having a sniff of credibility.

Then again, you can't get a difference-maker on your roster if you don't have a difference-maker in the GM's office.

[DMBZeppelin]

Cutler just the QB Bears need

Dan Patrick: You grew up in Indiana—are you a Colts (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/baltimore-colts-ORSPT000159.topic) fan? Jay Cutler: I'm a Bear fan. Patrick: Would you like to play for the Bears (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/chicago-bears-ORSPT000036.topic)? Cutler: Yeah, I wouldn't mind playing for the Bears. —WMVP-AM 1000 interview Yes, on March 2, Jay Cutler confessed to a national radio audience that he grew up a Bears fan and wanted to play for his favorite team. March 2, 2006, that is.

Back then, Cutler was coming out of Vanderbilt pegged as the first-round draft pick he would become. Monday, Cutler was just a disgruntled Denver Bronco teasing all NFL (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/nfl-ORSPT000007.topic) general managers in search of a franchise quarterback by acting like a guy who wants to be traded. Jerry Angelo, please indulge us by paying attention.

History suggests Angelo will stay miles away from any trade controversy in the Mile High city. Reality says the Broncos and first-year coach Josh McDaniels now will go out of their way to show Cutler he is king, not (Matt) Cassel. But suspend traditional Halas Hall practicality for a moment and replace it with some ingenuity.

The Bears probably aren't going back to the Super Bowl (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/super-bowl-EVSPR000004.topic) by stocking the roster with promising offensive linemen with one start in four NFL seasons, no matter how nice a signing Frank Omiyale is. And they won't return to NFC elite status by turning the wide receiver corps into an NFL internship program or chasing thirtysomething free-agent defensive backs. At some point it will require bigger and bolder moves, and prying Cutler away from Denver would be one that could cement Angelo's legacy in Chicago.

Angelo told the world after the 2008 season that he was fixated on fixing the quarterback position. If Angelo really meant that—and he is an earnest man—then he must exhaust every possibility to acquire a 25-year-old Pro Bowl QB who has suddenly found himself in the NFL equivalent of a bad marriage. In explaining why the Bears would stay out of the bidding for wide receivers such as T.J. Houshmandzadeh (who signed Monday with the Seahawks) and Nate Washington (who agreed to terms with the Titans on Monday), Angelo has espoused the theory that the quarterback makes the receivers and not vice versa. A quarterback such as Cutler finally would allow Angelo to prove that theory.

The Bears can win with Kyle Orton (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/kyle-orton-PESPT007026.topic). This idea has nothing to do with Orton. But Cutler is on the cusp of his prime and likely to become one of the game's top 10 quarterbacks over the next decade. For those reasons, Denver would be foolish to trade him. But then the Broncos were fools over the weekend when they considered trading Cutler for Cassel, so never underestimate the effect altitude has on judgment in the Rockies.

Reports in Denver say Cutler remains miffed regardless who initiated trade talks. Sports Illustrated reported he requested a trade last month when his offensive coordinator left the team. The Bears were one of three possible trade partners, according to an ESPN.com report. Where there is smoke in Denver, there is a need for Angelo to grab a mask and charge in, even if Cutler's agent, Bus Cook, told the Tribune he wasn't aware of anything involving Cutler and the Bears. Even if Broncos officials have repeated in the last several days that Cutler isn't on the trade block.

McDaniels is said to have wanted Cassel because he had run an offense in New England predicated on precision and accuracy that isn't Cutler's strong suit. Orton is accurate too. Cassel had better numbers than Orton but also a better supporting cast. He throws the deep ball better, but Orton has more experience. The point is, the traits McDaniels liked in Cassel he easily could find in Orton. Offering Orton to the Broncos along with this year's No. 18 pick and perhaps a third-rounder in 2010 for Cutler would give the Bears a potential answer to a decades-old question.

In return, Denver would get a solid starter and enough draft flexibility to select another one in April. The best veteran player the Bears have added through a trade or free agency since making Super Bowl XLI is defensive tackle Anthony Adams (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/anthony-adams-PESPT08285.topic). They have swung and missed on the likes of Adam Archuleta (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/adam-archuleta-PESPT007033.topic), Brandon Lloyd, Darwin Walker (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/darwin-walker-PESPT007651.topic) and ... well, that's enough to give Bears fans a headache. But keep swinging, this time for the fences.

This isn't Kurt Warner (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/kurt-warner-PESPT007711.topic) trying to use the Bears as leverage in free agency. This isn't Donovan McNabb (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/donovan-mcnabb-PESPT004924.topic) toying with the idea of coming home with two years left on his contract. This is an unhappy but potentially attainable Pro Bowl quarterback who grew up loving the Bears in Santa Claus (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/arts-culture/holidays/santa-claus-PEFCC000018.topic), Ind. That's a small town in southern Indiana where every day is like Christmas. Cutler would be the gift to Chicago that keeps on giving for the next decade.

[DMBZeppelin]

I actually had no idea Cutler was a Bears fan.

[BotheDMBFan]

I did. Another reason why we SHOULD get a deal done. It's not like he's 34 years old or something. This is a proven commodity. Fucking idiots we have in our Front Office.

[lockman21]

I did. Another reason why we SHOULD get a deal done. It's not like he's 34 years old or something. This is a proven commodity. Fucking idiots we have in our Front Office.

Seriously.

[BotheDMBFan]

They should hire me, skeriously.

[funksoul]

Soooooooo what is the Bears plan this offseason exactly?

[lockman21]

Soooooooo what is the Bears plan this offseason exactly?

Do nothing.

[BotheDMBFan]

Try to do worse than the Cubs.

[JTRocks]

Then again, you can't get a difference-maker on your roster if you don't have a difference-maker in the GM's office.

I dont know if it was said in here or i saw it somewhere else, but I almost wish we didnt make the super bowl back in 06, because it bought that piece of shit Angelo probly at least 5 more years to continue fucking shit up.

And when i say "fucking shit up" i mean that in a negative way

[funksoul]

Most exciting thing at Soldier Field this year will probably be U2.

[JTRocks]

not if its as lame as that grammy performance was

[funksoul]

Thought they were pretty great on Letterman last night.

[DMBZeppelin]

I did. Another reason why we SHOULD get a deal done. It's not like he's 34 years old or something. This is a proven commodity. Fucking idiots we have in our Front Office.
Nah, why would the Bears want a 25 year old Pro Bowl QB? Plus him coming to a weaker division would be a nice thing.
I dont know if it was said in here or i saw it somewhere else, but I almost wish we didnt make the super bowl back in 06, because it bought that piece of shit Angelo probly at least 5 more years to continue fucking shit up.

And when i say "fucking shit up" i mean that in a negative way
I agree, that Super Bowl appearance messed shit up. It got Lovie the power to make his own picks (Dan Bazuin was 100% his call), the ability to first his competition for head coach (Ron Rivera), and now if things go bad Angelo will still be around because he can fire Lovie. I hated over performing this past season, because at least Turner would have gotten fired.

[Tiduwho]

If Cutler goes to the Vikings before Angelo even gives the Broncos a fucking phone call, he deserves to be ended.

[DMBZeppelin]

If Cutler goes to the Vikings before Angelo even gives the Broncos a fucking phone call, he deserves to be ended.
It's like you read my mind :thumbsup

Though according to the Suntimes or Tribune the Bears don't want to hurt Orton's feelings.

[JTRocks]

so whatta ya say guys?

T.O. to the Bears?

yeah, would never happen

[meatball41]

so whatta ya say guys?

T.O. to the Bears?

yeah, would never happen


No FUCKING way. He can go fuck up someone else's locker room. The Bears got enough issues the way it is.

[funksoul]

so whatta ya say guys?

T.O. to the Bears?

yeah, would never happen


:lol Just a matter of time before this got posted. Even if we wanted him, he wouldn't come here. He wants a good QB and a chance to win the SB...neither of which I think we can provide in '09.

[funksoul]

It's like you read my mind :thumbsup

Though according to the Suntimes or Tribune the Bears don't want to hurt Orton's feelings.


I hate feelings.

[DMBZeppelin]

:lol Just a matter of time before this got posted. Even if we wanted him, he wouldn't come here. He wants a good QB and a chance to win the SB...neither of which I think we can provide in '09.

If the Bears REALLY wanted Cutler they could get him. Sadly we don't.

[JTRocks]

I've been thinking. Since they have made ZERO effort at trying to get any wide receiver in free agency, I think that we can only assume they're thinking WR for the first round, and if not the first, then for sure the second

[BotheDMBFan]

T-Holt to Bears. I'm hoping for it.

[Tiduwho]

Okay....the ESPN boards are lighting up about rumors of JA looking to pull the trigger with TO.



I don't know what kind of validity there is to this....

[UCFish]

Nooooo

[JTRocks]

Okay....the ESPN boards are lighting up about rumors of JA looking to pull the trigger with TO.



I don't know what kind of validity there is to this....

probly none. the people on the espn boards are ridiculous. I cant stand that place

[DMBZeppelin]

I've been thinking. Since they have made ZERO effort at trying to get any wide receiver in free agency, I think that we can only assume they're thinking WR for the first round, and if not the first, then for sure the second
Jerry basically said that's what we're going to do.
Okay....the ESPN boards are lighting up about rumors of JA looking to pull the trigger with TO.



I don't know what kind of validity there is to this....
ESPN boards :thumbsdow

[DMBZeppelin]

LM: Why haven’t the Bears tried to sign any of this year’s big-name free agents such as wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh or safety Brian Dawkins, both of whom are productive veterans who seemingly would provide major upgrades?

JA: Houshmandzadeh is a fine receiver. Would we have entertained him? Yes, but we wanted to see what his marketplace was. In this case, we felt like [what he received from the Seahawks] was an exorbitant amount of money. Remember, he was a No. 2 in Cincinnati. That’s not to say that what Seattle did wasn’t right for them; their situation is different in my mind than ours. They had an inordinate amount of injuries with receivers and they felt like they needed to get somebody that was established and healthy.

A lot of teams would have liked to have had Houshmandzadeh. But he’s going to be 32 in ’09 and the price that you’re paying for that receiver we felt was very high. You have to look at economics when you look at players. Who doesn’t want Houshmandzadeh? But you have to look at the economics: What are the implications to the cap going forward and what does that prevent us from doing in other areas within our team and/or in free agency?

With Brian Dawkins, he’s 35 years old. He’s a great player, but Philadelphia put a limit on what they were going to pay him and they know him the best. You have to understand that it’s not just, “Do you want the player?” Certainly there are players out there, but at what cost? And what does that cost do to your salary cap and to other things you may want to do internally and/or in free agency. You have to be patient as you go through this process. It’s not a matter of not wanting to spend the money. The cap is how you want to allocate the money. When we look at a player, we have to put a value on that player, and then we have to stay disciplined to stay within those parameters. With 14 players being franchised, it makes free agency less attractive, and the players that do get out in free agency are making an exorbitant amount of money because it’s a supply and demand business.

LM: How much of a priority is upgrading the wide receiver position either in free agency or the draft?

JA: Naturally, we’re going to look at that real hard, in all likelihood in the draft. We’re not looking for backup wide receivers. What we want are potentially starting wide receivers. We have a nucleus of receivers that we feel good about in terms of twos, threes, fours and fives, and if we carried six, a sixth receiver. Part of that ties into special teams. What we’re looking at is the top of the wide receiver position. Where does that come from? It comes with a premium receiver in free agency if there’s one out there and/or in the draft. Yes, it’s a position that we are looking at.

[DMBZeppelin]

Kevin Jones signed a 2 year deal with us. No idea on the terms.

[BustedStuff87]

Kevin Jones signed a 2 year deal with us. No idea on the terms.

Hopefully he'll be healthy and help us out. :thumbsup:thumbsup

[funksoul]

It's probably safe to assume the Bears will open the season on the road with U2 playing Soldier Field on the 12th.

[JTRocks]

I know we've talked about how JA is too much of a pussy to get some sort of trade for Cutler, but hey, i guess this means theres still a glimmer of hope

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968896

[Tiduwho]

He needs to meet with McDaniels to keep the situation moving forward in the right direction? How about fuck that. Stick to your guns Cutler, this guy BETRAYED you.

[UCFish]

My brother just told me we signed Torry Holt but I do not see this anywhere.

Anyone hear this.

[kittensXLI]

No, I've searched a ton of websites and can't find anything at all about Holt to Chicago; so I'm about 95% sure that's not true.

[Tiduwho]

Sigh....that would be nice.

[UCFish]

Damn I am gonna punch him.

[funksoul]

Dear Bears,

Go get Jay Cutler...even if he is a douchebag, I don't care anymore.

Thanks!

[UCFish]

Dear Bears,

Go get Jay Cutler...even if he is a douchebag, I don't care anymore.

Thanks!

Agreed :thumbsup

[DMBZeppelin]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/03/report_bears_could_be_among_cu.html

Report: Bears could be among Cutler's top 2 choices in trade scenario

It has reached the point where it's hard to believe the Jay Cutler saga will not be resolved until the quarterback receives a new contract.

From the Denver Broncos or from a team the Broncos trade him to because right now this storyline looks like it will be as everlasting as the Brett Favre mess a year ago.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen has even come to terms (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11919325) with the fact that the Broncos could be moving forward without their quarterback, who reached a Pro Bowl after just his second full season starting in the league. This, after a face-to-face meeting at the team's headquarters in which no progress was made between Cutler and new head coach Josh McDaniels, who had hoped to acquire Matt Cassel in a trade last month.
"I'm very disappointed," Bowlen said Sunday. "I'm disappointed in the whole picture, not just disappointed that we might lose our star quarterback."Klis speculates that the Bears could be among Cutler's top two choices along with Tennessee, which recently re-signed Kerry Collins. Klis seems to have been nailing accurate information throughout this process, and he hits the list of all clubs seemingly in the market for a passer, including the Bears' NFC North rivals in Detroit and Minnesota.
"If Cutler is dealt, his preferences figure to be the Tennessee Titans, who play in Nashville, or the Chicago Bears, his favorite childhood team who would seem to be in need of a quarterback upgrade. Other possibilities could be Cleveland, whose coach, Eric Mangini, was formerly McDaniels' colleague on Bill Belichick's staff in New England; Tampa Bay; Minnesota; Detroit and Arizona."Bears general manager Jerry Angelo and coach Lovie Smith have just about fallen over themselves professing their confidence in Kyle Orton ever since Angelo's press conference two days after the season ended. Just remember, that confidence only goes so far. The Bears don't have enough to extend Orton with a longterm contract. Not now, any way. Whether the Bears would be serious players for Cutler if the Broncos seek to end the madness with a divorce, it's impossible to say right now. What can be said is any effort to land Cutler would be--by far--the boldest move Angelo has made in nearly eight years on the job.

We're still not convinced things can't be mended in Denver with, what else, some green stuff. Cash. Cutler put one of his homes up for sale. His folks did the same thing with a home they have in the area. Reports say Cutler was looking to sell for some time and putting a house on the market in the dead of winter isn't the brightest move from a realty standpoint. Maybe that is why he waited until now. And keep in mind, the Bears have seen a for sale sign go up on a house before. That was one of the final negotiating ploys by running back Cedric Benson in 2005 before his five-week holdout was resolved. For sale signs can come down just as easily as they go up.

Stay tuned.

[BotheDMBFan]

Bears better sign Holt. Cutler would be good too.

[BustedStuff87]

Bears better sign Holt. Cutler would be good too.

Sign Matt Jones instead. He'd be faster cause of all the coke he's snortin up in the bathroom stall before a game. He'll have better hands than Hester.


AND......

Cutler to (Matt) Jones???

[Tiduwho]

Matt Jones sucks unbearably bad.

[JTRocks]

Cutler reunited with his old receiver and his old left tackle

[DMBZeppelin]

Cutler reunited with his old receiver and his old left tackle
Wow I didn't even think about that :thumbsup

[JTRocks]

Wow I didn't even think about that :thumbsup

yes, both of whom played a total combined 1-game all last season. Great 08 draft angelo

[BotheDMBFan]

Bennet, apparently will be the starter next year. :freak

[BotheDMBFan]

Browns signed St. Claire...

[kittensXLI]

Bennet, apparently will be the starter next year. :freak
Bennet who?

[BotheDMBFan]

Earl Bennet. He was THE SHIT in college. Then we drafted him, and didn't play him last year. Now he will step into the #2 WR role apparently. God I love this team...

[kittensXLI]

Earl Bennet. He was THE SHIT in college. Then we drafted him, and didn't play him last year. Now he will step into the #2 WR role apparently. God I love this team...
Who are the #1 and #3 WRs?

[BotheDMBFan]

Who are the #1 and #3 WRs?

1, Hester. 3, Probably Rasheed Davis.

Granted, in the draft, we'll probably draft a WR but...Yikes. We need T. Holt. But will we sign him? Of course not. Because we hate winning.

[kittensXLI]

Devin Hester is like a #3 or #4 at best... Rasheed Davis should not be any higher than a practice squad, if he's lucky.

[BotheDMBFan]

HEster has the potential to be a #2, MAYBE even a #1. Our coaches talk about his amazing hands, he just doesn't know how to be a WR.

[kittensXLI]

HEster has the potential to be a #2, MAYBE even a #1. Our coaches talk about his amazing hands, he just doesn't know how to be a WR.
If anything, his hands are one of his bigger problems, in my opinion. Has this guy even caught an NFL pass yet? He definitely doesn't know how to be a WR, regardless.

[pathetic]

If anything, his hands are one of his bigger problems, in my opinion. Has this guy even caught an NFL pass yet? He definitely doesn't know how to be a WR, regardless.
\yeah he caught a bomb from greaseball to win a game 2 seasons ago

[JTRocks]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/03/the_big_catch_bears_line_up_a.html

Bears have scheduled a private workout with Hakeem Nicks

[BotheDMBFan]

I think he meant Bennett. He knows that Hester has caught passes.

And Nicks has the potential to be the best WR in the draft.

[funksoul]

Bennet, apparently will be the starter next year. :freak

We obviously didn't want to unleash the receving fury that is Earl Bennett all at once.

[Tiduwho]

Orton is going to get eaten alive next year.

[DMBphan83]

who :shrug :confused. he must a bear I'm not familiar with his name at all. Now I have to call my good friend tomorrow and ask him? I know this much my good friend and I are planning a bears draft party and I order another football jersey just in time too :)
We obviously didn't want to unleash the receving fury that is Earl Bennett all at once.

[kittensXLI]

Earl Bennett is probably the best WR out of the entire city of Chicago's sports team's rosters.

[devilandthelord]

So.........

Did they get Cutler yet?
Cuz if the answer is no, they should be spending all their energy trying to get Cutler.

[BustedStuff87]

Here's to Compensatory Picks. The next HOF QB is going to be picked with the 99th overall selection.

[DMBZeppelin]

I was worried we'd only get a 4th rounder for Berrian. I'm pretty pumped we got that 3rd rounder. Most of that is due to the Vikings over paying for him.

On Monday, the Bears received the 99th overall selection, the third highest choice awarded at the end of the third round behind the New England Patriots (97th) and Cincinnati Bengals (98th). The Bears also received the 246th and 251st picks in the seventh round. The league awarded a total of 32 picks to 16 teams in Rounds 3-7.

Chances are those two 7th rounders won't even make the team. I was hoping we'd get a 6th rounder for Ayien...(whatever, however you spell it) that went to Baltimore.

[Tiduwho]

I was worried we'd only get a 4th rounder for Berrian. I'm pretty pumped we got that 3rd rounder. Most of that is due to the Vikings over paying for him.



Chances are those two 7th rounders won't even make the team. I was hoping we'd get a 6th rounder for Ayien...(whatever, however you spell it) that went to Baltimore.

I'd ask Doug Buffone.

[JTRocks]

i'm hoping the bears use one of those 3rd rounders on a qb, particularly Rhett Bomar. Anyone remember him? He got kicked out of Oklahoma 2 years ago for violating some ncaa rule. basically he had some bullshit job that he never had to go to but would still get paid. Anyway, he transferred to sam houston state and tore shit up for his last two years of eligibility. I actually wouldnt be that surprised if he was gone by the time the bears pick in the 3rd round

[DMBZeppelin]

i'm hoping the bears use one of those 3rd rounders on a qb, particularly Rhett Bomar. Anyone remember him? He got kicked out of Oklahoma 2 years ago for violating some ncaa rule. basically he had some bullshit job that he never had to go to but would still get paid. Anyway, he transferred to sam houston state and tore shit up for his last two years of eligibility. I actually wouldnt be that surprised if he was gone by the time the bears pick in the 3rd round
I would be because I haven't heard shit about him. So unless he tore it up at the combine (if he was invited). I'm not sure where his stock will be at. I wouldn't mind if the Bears drafted a couple QB's if they aren't going to get serious about Cutler. Nate Davis, the guy you mentioned. I mean there's a couple guys who might not go in the first two rounds that could be good NFL starters. I just hope the Bears aren't overly content with Orton. He's NOT the answer. That guy has started enoug games that we know what he's all about.

[DMBZeppelin]

Jerry Angelo will never ever ever have another chance like this. If I don't hear the Bears are out there trying to match any offer for him. They can f*** themselves. An opportunity like this is SO RARE. I know we have a lot of needs, but building around a 25 year old Jay Cutler on offense is a GREAT start.

[DMBZeppelin]

In case you're clueless: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4031893

[DMBZeppelin]

I've been thinking about it and here's what I'd like for them to offer:

Devin Hester
Brian Urlacher
Kyle Orton
2009 2nd Round Pick
2010 1st Round Pick

Bronco's need a middle linebacker, and the Cover 2 doesn't. Urlacher is just a bonus in this system, but I'd be fine with giving him up. If we don't give up our 1st rounder this year they can have Hester. That way we can draft someone better for Cutler to throw to at 18. Plus we have Bennett who he worked with in college.

Also, Hester isn't what he was at returner. He never will be with the work load we give him at receiver. D. Manning runs like he's on fire. The 2nd round pick is nice, because we have 2 third rounders this year. Plus hopefully with Cutler and an improved defense. That turns into a low 1st rounder. Orton just to give them a QB option that we wouldn't need anyways.

With an offense built around Cutler, Olsen, Forte, and a receiver we select in the 1st round this year. I'd really be happy. Honestly I'd be ok with giving up almost ANYONE on this team.

[funksoul]

I've been thinking about it and here's what I'd like for them to offer:

Devin Hester
Brian Urlacher
Kyle Orton
2009 2nd Round Pick
2010 1st Round Pick

Bronco's need a middle linebacker, and the Cover 2 doesn't. Urlacher is just a bonus in this system, but I'd be fine with giving him up. If we don't give up our 1st rounder this year they can have Hester. That way we can draft someone better for Cutler to throw to at 18. Plus we have Bennett who he worked with in college.

Also, Hester isn't what he was at returner. He never will be with the work load we give him at receiver. D. Manning runs like he's on fire. The 2nd round pick is nice, because we have 2 third rounders this year. Plus hopefully with Cutler and an improved defense. That turns into a low 1st rounder. Orton just to give them a QB option that we wouldn't need anyways.

With an offense built around Cutler, Olsen, Forte, and a receiver we select in the 1st round this year. I'd really be happy. Honestly I'd be ok with giving up almost ANYONE on this team.

You're saying a combination or all of these pieces?

[JTRocks]

I would also be cool with giving up almost anybody too, but i can guarantee you that they would never trade Hester and Urlacher together. It goes beyond just theyre playing abilities, those two players are basically the faces of the team. I would actually be shocked if either of them got traded. But I can see getting rid of maybe one of them, just not both. In the nfl, trades are never really fair or at least dont ever seem fair at the time of the trade. So i'm thinking we can maybe get away with a good trade here from our side.

[Darksideofoz]

Jerry Angelo will never ever ever have another chance like this. If I don't hear the Bears are out there trying to match any offer for him. They can f*** themselves. An opportunity like this is SO RARE. I know we have a lot of needs, but building around a 25 year old Jay Cutler on offense is a GREAT start.

This just isn't the MO for the organization. Jay Cutler is not walking through the door, Curtis Enis might or even Jeff George. You need to settle down and accept reality.

[Tiduwho]

Well, let's get Orlando Pace signed for starters.

[funksoul]

Well, let's get Orlando Pace signed for starters.


I remember when he was good.

[DMBZeppelin]

You're saying a combination or all of these pieces?
All of them. Urlacher is on a fast decline. We've probably ruined Hester. Trade him before people figure out last year wasn't a fluke in the return game. If we have Cutler we don't need Orton. We can easily find a MLB for the Cover 2 in this draft in the later rounds. We'll get someone like Heyward-Bey or Nicks for Cutler in the 1st round this year.

I'm sure they'll want Orton because he's serviceable. The Bears don't have as much to offer as other teams so we'll have to give more. Again any of that would be worth it.

I would also be cool with giving up almost anybody too, but i can guarantee you that they would never trade Hester and Urlacher together. It goes beyond just theyre playing abilities, those two players are basically the faces of the team. I would actually be shocked if either of them got traded. But I can see getting rid of maybe one of them, just not both. In the nfl, trades are never really fair or at least dont ever seem fair at the time of the trade. So i'm thinking we can maybe get away with a good trade here from our side.
But they'd be trading them for a MEGA face of the franchise in the first real QB in a long time. I think the Bears would be happy to get rid of Urlacher's contract with how he's played. Hester may be the face of this franchise, but what exactly is special about him anymore? Is he a great reciever? No. Is a great return man still? No.

[Tiduwho]

I remember when he was good.

He gave up 2 sacks last year. Compared to St. Clair's 9 or 10. And we don't even have him anymore.

Yeah, let's start Omiyale. Or maybe that bum we signed to our practice squad. Much better options than a former 7 time Pro Bowler. :rolleyes

[DMBZeppelin]

I'd love Pace just so he could mentor Williams.

[BotheDMBFan]

He gave up 2 sacks last year. Compared to St. Clair's 9 or 10. And we don't even have him anymore.

Yeah, let's start Omiyale. Or maybe that bum we signed to our practice squad. Much better options than a former 7 time Pro Bowler. :rolleyes

Pace only played in a few games though. He's a shell of his former self, and a total asshole in the locker room.

[DMBZeppelin]

In the meantime, the Broncos have informed all interested teams that they want at least two first-round picks for Cutler and getting a quarterback in exchange is not a necessity, Mortensen reports. A team source said it was possible Cutler could be traded as soon as Friday.

Mortensen is reporting the following teams' interest in Cutler:

• The Redskins are acting with urgency in their pursuit of Cutler but it doesn't appear the Broncos have interest in Jason Campbell. Consequently, even while the Redskins may be willing to offer two first-rounders for Cutler, they are trying to gauge interest elsewhere for Campbell. If the Broncos do deal with the Redskins, it would give them control of the 12th and 13th picks in the draft.

• The Lions are interested in Cutler and would be willing to send the Broncos the first pick in the draft. But the Broncos don't want it. Rather, the Broncos would ask for the Lions' second first-round pick (No. 20) and possibly their second-rounder (No. 33), or another first-round pick in 2010. The Lions don't believe they can financially bear the burden of paying for the first pick in this year's draft, as well as sign Cutler to a contract extension.

• The Jets and Buccaneers also are involved in talks with the Broncos.

• The Panthers have some level of interest and are not opposed to including defensive end Julius Peppers in trade discussions. However, even though the Broncos have a need for a player of Peppers' caliber, they are reluctant because signing Peppers to a new contract, a necessity to complete a trade with Carolina, is cost-prohibitive for the team.

[DMBZeppelin]

2009, 2010 1st Round Picks and Kyle Orton. If that's all it would take. I'd love it. Especially since our 1st rounders always suck.

You know what might be cool. Give them like a conditional draft pick that starts off as a 1st, but goes down the better Orton does. So if he turns into something good. We only give them like a 2nd or 3rd rounder instead of a first in 2010. Though I mean I'm just rambling. Just get this damn thing done. Otherwise we'll look back at our crappy 2009 and 2010 draft picks, and Orton won't be on the team and we'll all be asking ourselves "WHY!?!?!"

[JTRocks]

As much as i would love for this trade to happen, I just have absolutely no faith in JA getting this thing done. And thats probly a good thing because if this type of scenario happened 4 or 5 years ago, i would have been all over this shit, only to be let down

[funksoul]

2009, 2010 1st Round Picks and Kyle Orton. If that's all it would take. I'd love it. Especially since our 1st rounders always suck.

You know what might be cool. Give them like a conditional draft pick that starts off as a 1st, but goes down the better Orton does. So if he turns into something good. We only give them like a 2nd or 3rd rounder instead of a first in 2010. Though I mean I'm just rambling. Just get this damn thing done. Otherwise we'll look back at our crappy 2009 and 2010 draft picks, and Orton won't be on the team and we'll all be asking ourselves "WHY!?!?!"


I don't think the Broncos would want Kyle Orton.

[kittensXLI]

I'd take Orton in a heartbeat over any/every quarterback already on the Denver roster, or in free agency, or rookie from the draft.

[monkeyman420]

As much as i would love for this trade to happen, I just have absolutely no faith in JA getting this thing done. And thats probly a good thing because if this type of scenario happened 4 or 5 years ago, i would have been all over this shit, only to be let down
Feel the same way. And it pisses me off because Angelo came out and said after the season that stabilizing the QB position was more important than anything else. Well Jerry, here's your chance. Here's the chance to stabilize that position for years and give us Bears fans something we have never had in 50 years: a franchise quarterback.

[funksoul]

Sun Times saying we got Cutler :eek :monkey :bounce

[pathetic]

Sun Times saying we got Cutler :eek :monkey :bounce

Yes, my friend in chicago just called me and told me! wooooo

[meatball41]

Yes, my friend in chicago just called me and told me! wooooo

WORD!!!

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article

[DMBCubs25]

damn this is huge, wonder what we had to give up

[BotheDMBFan]

This is among the happiest days in my life.

[clcfball11]

Tits!!!!!!!!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

damn this is huge, wonder what we had to give up

8Crosses fingers and hopes it's Orton and Hunter Hillenmeyer*

[UCFish]

Awesome!!!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

Orton and 2 1st round picks and Da Bears get Cutler and a conditional 3rd. BEst. Deal. Ever.

[clayj41]

Sucks that I have to hate Cutler now. Oh well, at least the folks in Santa Claus, Indiana won't have to travel as far to watch him play in person now.

[BustedStuff87]

Cutler!!! Bout dam time. This makes the draft perfect for us to pick up a WR now.

Cutler to Olsen for 10 TD's this season!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

Don't hate, APPRECIATE!

[BustedStuff87]

Cutler!!! Bout dam time. This makes the draft perfect for us to pick up a WR now.

Cutler to Olsen for 10 TD's this season!!! (10 of his 40) :rolleyes

[BotheDMBFan]

Cutler!!! Bout dam time. This makes the draft perfect for us to pick up a WR now.

Cutler to Olsen for 10 TD's this season!!!

Bears should get Torry Holt ASAP.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Orton and 2 1st round picks and Da Bears get Cutler and a conditional 3rd. BEst. Deal. Ever.

Really? Best deal ever? Cutler is surely an improvement over Orton but he's still one of the more overrated QB's in the league as far as I'm concerned. And we gave up two 1st rounders and a 3rd. AND Orton. That's a lot. Guess what. Cutler isn't going to have any receivers to throw to and the offensive line is still going to suck.

[Darksideofoz]

This just isn't the MO for the organization. Jay Cutler is not walking through the door, Curtis Enis might or even Jeff George. You need to settle down and accept reality.

mother of god

[BotheDMBFan]

Really? Best deal ever? Cutler is surely an improvement over Orton but he's still one of the more overrated QB's in the league as far as I'm concerned. And we gave up two 1st rounders and a 3rd. AND Orton. That's a lot. Guess what. Cutler isn't going to have any receivers to throw to and the offensive line is still going to suck.

He can move a lot better than Orton though. And we suck at drafting in the 1st round anyways. And we GET a 3rd, not give up a 3rd.

[lockman21]

Who's going to be the backup now? I gotta say, I like that the Bears are pursuing a QB, but I don't know if Cutler is worth 2 first round choices.

[BotheDMBFan]

Hanie will be the back up.

[funksoul]

He can move a lot better than Orton though. And we suck at drafting in the 1st round anyways. And we GET a 3rd, not give up a 3rd.

We gave up two 1st's, and a a 3rd but get Cutler and a high 5th rd pick

[BotheDMBFan]

Cutler is 25 years old. A potential ROCK for this franchise. He grew up a Bears fan. This is a dream come true. We just need to give him someone to throw to and hope the O-Line doesn't totally suck and we could be REALLY good.

[clayj41]

Don't hate, APPRECIATE!

I don't have a choice.



I do appreciate how good the QB play might be in the NFC North because of this. Cutler and Rodgers were great last year....I guess we'll have to see what the Lions do, but the future of the division should be very bright.

[lockman21]

Nevermind, I decided I love this deal. Hopefully Cutler doesn't get hurt.

[BotheDMBFan]

We gave up two 1st's, and a a 3rd but get Cutler and a high 5th rd pick

ESPN just said it was 2 1sts and Orty for Cutler and a conditional 3rd.

[funksoul]

ESPN just said it was 2 1sts and Orty for Cutler and a conditional 3rd.


My source was Hub Arkish from Pro Football Weekly.

[Hanlon421]

You guys gave up a TON for a whiney infant. We'll see how it plays out.

[BotheDMBFan]

My source was Hub Arkish from Pro Football Weekly.

I won't totally doubt it; but I'm believing ESPN until they change it.

[BotheDMBFan]

You guys gave up a TON for a whiney infant. We'll see how it plays out.

We trade a QB every 20 years, he's set.

[mja271]

To clear things up. According to ESPN

Broncos get:
Kyle Orton
Bears 1st Rd Pick in '09
Bears 1st Rd Pick in '10

Bears get:
Jay Cutler
Broncos 3rd Rd Pick in '09

[funksoul]

You guys gave up a TON for a whiney infant. We'll see how it plays out.

I doubt I'll be hanging out with Jay Cutler anytime soon so I don't really care.

[mja271]

im not a Bears or Broncos fan, but it cracks me up when people are like "you gave up alot for a whiner". Who gives a shit if he complained about some things? Denver didn't treat him like the franchise and he got upset. Get over it. The guy can play football and he's not anything like a T.O.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'd love to hang out with him. He's one of my favorite Bears and he's only been on the team for 17 minutes.

[Styx Cover Band]

Wow I am shocked, SHOCKED, JA was able to swing this

[BotheDMBFan]

Me too. I thought he was a Redskin for sure and then I was praying for Campbell.

[clayj41]

I'd love to hang out with him. He's one of my favorite Bears and he's only been on the team for 17 minutes.

He's a dickhead, believe me.....and that assessment is not based solely on this trade controversy. You'd probably get along with him though.

[Hanlon421]

If the 3rd round pick is GOING to Chicago, than I think it's a great deal for Chicago. However if they gave up the 3rd along with 2 firsts, I think they gave up a bit much..

Not sure what to believe regarding the 3rd round pick involved..I refuse to believe ANYTHING ESPN & Mortenson report until it's confirmed elsewhere, cause they tend to make up a LOT of shit.

[Bron Yr Aur]

He can move a lot better than Orton though. And we suck at drafting in the 1st round anyways. And we GET a 3rd, not give up a 3rd.

Ok, this definitely makes sense now. So yeah, I'm happy about it, but it's not like this is going to turn the team into a contender immediately. However, Cutler could be a franchise QB for 7-8 years so that is nice.

[BotheDMBFan]

He's a dickhead, believe me.....and that assessment is not based solely on this trade controversy. You'd probably get along with him though.

I don't care if he's a dickhead. Brian Urlacher has enough illegitimate children of different races to field every team for the next World Baseball Classic; and he's a legend.

[Hanlon421]

So who steps in to be Cutler's favorite target?

And while typing this I realize I have Marshall in a keeper league, and I want to kill everyone because of it.

Marshall, suspension and no more Cutler = no good for my fantasy team!

[BotheDMBFan]

It'll be Bennett.

[Hanlon421]

I don't care if he's a dickhead. Brian Urlacher has enough illegitimate children of different races to field every team for the next World Baseball Classic; and he's a legend.

But the difference is, Urlacher doesnt act like a child. He may be a dick, but he's an adult.

Jay Cutler is a whiney cocky fuck, but he's a good player, just needs to be more consistent, which I think he will.

However, he no longer is surrounded by an elite passing system, so we'll see how that goes...

[clayj41]

I don't care if he's a dickhead. Brian Urlacher has enough illegitimate children of different races to field every team for the next World Baseball Classic; and he's a legend.

True enough. :lol


Heritage Hills was one our rivals in high school though, so my opinion of Cutler is biased. Funny thing is, I still wished him well in the pros but he keeps playing for teams I hate.

[BotheDMBFan]

He's reuniting with the WR he broke a shitton of SEC records with.

[Hanlon421]

He's reuniting with the WR he broke a shitton of SEC records with.


Ah, forgot about that...

What are your guys thoughts on Bennet? I don't know much about him.

[BotheDMBFan]

He will end up being one of the best Bears WRs ever. That's not saying much, but yeah.

[robthomas]

wow, what a franchise:

http://images.gametrailers.com/images/userposters/177532-443-SuperBowlShuffle.jpg

[AlexK79]

This is unreal. To anyone who says we gave up too much - PLEASE. Angelo would have wasted the 2 first rounders anyway. How many picks, dollars, and YEARS have we wasted trying to find a quarterback of Cutler's caliber? Tomczak, Harbaugh, Willis, Kramer, Walsh, Mirer, Kreig, Stenstron, McNown, Miller, Matthews, Moreno, Stewart, Quinn, Krenzel, Hutchinson, Grossman, Orton, Griese...did I get them all? LOL

I am beyond excited right now - I feel like a kid on Christmas morning. GO BEARS!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

Only Prince is great enough to beat Da Bears for a Grammy.

[Darksideofoz]

wow, what a franchise:

http://images.gametrailers.com/images/userposters/177532-443-SuperBowlShuffle.jpg

Best team ever

[Hanlon421]

By the way, you guys GAVE up the 3rd rounder, not sure why ESPN said otherwise.

[BotheDMBFan]

Because it is ESPN, and I will trust it until they change it.

[Hanlon421]

I think you guys had to do it.

On the same hand, I think Denver extracted a TON from you, and they did a good job getting what they did.

So my opinion is, you guys gave up too much even though you had to make the move.

[BotheDMBFan]

Now they're changing it. Oh well.

[cruscott35]

If the 3rd round pick is GOING to Chicago, than I think it's a great deal for Chicago. However if they gave up the 3rd along with 2 firsts, I think they gave up a bit much..

Not sure what to believe regarding the 3rd round pick involved..I refuse to believe ANYTHING ESPN & Mortenson report until it's confirmed elsewhere, cause they tend to make up a LOT of shit.

You can't be serious... A two pick swing in the third round shouldn't be enough to sway your opinion of this trade. I can't believe the Lions couldn't get this done. Fuck I hate my life.

[Darksideofoz]

This is unreal. To anyone who says we gave up too much - PLEASE. Angelo would have wasted the 2 first rounders anyway. How many picks, dollars, and YEARS have we wasted trying to find a quarterback of Cutler's caliber?

The truth.

[cruscott35]

I think you guys had to do it.

On the same hand, I think Denver extracted a TON from you, and they did a good job getting what they did.

So my opinion is, you guys gave up too much even though you had to make the move.


No, Denver got robbed.

[crashintonickdm]

cutler is back on a team with a joke deffense still. poor guy.

[BotheDMBFan]

Our D isn't a joke. Overrated, but not a joke.

[HolyCow]

Very good deal for Chicago.

[Darksideofoz]

Orlando Pace - wow! Old, but wow, where am i?

[Sou1 So1di3r]

awesome!!

[robthomas]

Best team ever

Whoa there Butkus that's a stretch - better turn on the technicolor now that your in Oz

[Hanlon421]

No, Denver got robbed.

:lol what?

What should they have gotten? Maybe Denver got robbed in the SITUATION, but they didn't get robbed in the trade value here.

[Hanlon421]

What are chicago's other picks like in this year's draft?

[cruscott35]

:lol what?

What should they have gotten? Maybe Denver got robbed in the SITUATION, but they didn't get robbed in the trade value here.

I would expect a comment like this from a Detroit fan.


There pick of any three picks from Detroit.

[GinaNMU]

Very good deal for Chicago.

:thumbsup I am very optimistic. As long as he doesn't act like such a bitch, I think it'll be a great thing. Now we need some f'in receivers...

[MPizzle06]

Yess!!!!!!! Very very exciting. Go Bears!!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

Wait, Bears got Pace today too? Just get Torry Holt and oh yeah.

[kittensXLI]

UnBEARlievable.

[Darksideofoz]

Wait, Bears got Pace today too? Just get Torry Holt and oh yeah.

ESPN says Orlando Pace done deal

[BotheDMBFan]

Apparently we're workin on lockin' Pace down too.

[Hanlon421]

There pick of any three picks from Detroit.

Are you part of Detroit's front office? Cause who said they offered that?

And having the first pick in this 2009 draft isn't really a great thing...

The more I look at it, the more I think this is a good deal all around.

[BotheDMBFan]

Possibly the best day in the history of Bears offseason. PLEASE get Torry Holt now...

[kittensXLI]

Torry Holt is going to the Jets before the Bears.

...and probably the Titans, Jaguars, or Panthers even before both of those teams.

[BotheDMBFan]

Torry Holt is going to the Jets before the Bears.

...and probably the Titans, Jaguars, or Panthers even before both of those teams.

Orlando Pace is his best friend.

[BotheDMBFan]

Can anyone here do Photoshop?

[kittensXLI]

Can anyone here do Photoshop?
I can.

[kittensXLI]

Orlando Pace is his best friend.
That's meaningless. Pace is finished now, and Holt doesn't have to sign with a potential above .500/playoff team. If one of those teams I mentioned decides to shower him in cash, it's a done deal no questions asked.

[BotheDMBFan]

I can.
http://blacksportsonline.com/index/jaycutler.jpg

http://www.stlmag.com/media/galleries/321/O-P-1.jpg

If you could put that smilin Orlando Pace next to Cutler, I'll be eternally grateful./

[BotheDMBFan]

That's meaningless. Pace is finished now, and Holt doesn't have to sign with a potential above .500/playoff team. If one of those teams I mentioned decides to shower him in cash, it's a done deal no questions asked.

Oh, and he's tight with Lovie.

Anyways, please God please get Holt.

[jaking1185]

Nice pickup guys!

[BotheDMBFan]

Which one? Cutler or Pace?

[Tiduwho]

Oh my God, I just got off work!!! :multi :multi :multi


NO WAY!!!! This is crazy!!!!

[jaking1185]

Cutler more, but Pace will help too.

[Tiduwho]

I haven't been this excited since the beginning of 2006, when it LOOKED like we had a QB. Holy WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

Zach is gunna shit himself. I called him then texted him. He won't believe it til he turns on his radio.

[jaking1185]

Zach is gunna shit himself. I called him then texted him. He won't believe it til he turns on his radio.

Yes he will. :lol

[Tiduwho]

Unreal!!!!


I can't get enough of this. I've got ESPN on TV, 670 the score on my radio, and about 5 different tabs with links to sports sites and message boards. :multi

[Tiduwho]

Neckbeard Nation is adrift with naysayers....

[BotheDMBFan]

This guy on ESPN is retarded, and sad.

[BotheDMBFan]

Neckbeard Nation is adrift with naysayers....

He's Denver's problem now! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[clayj41]

This guy on ESPN is retarded, and sad.

Ditka?




;)

[BotheDMBFan]

Ditka?




;)

You know you couldn't say that with a straight face.

Nah that assbandit for the Broncos that was on there.

[clayj41]

You know you couldn't say that with a straight face.

I just found it odd that when I read that comment, Ditka was indeed the analyst talking on ESPN. :lol

[BotheDMBFan]

Suck my ball sack bitch. BEARS GET CUTLER, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[selbo2]

Is it Christmas today?

[BotheDMBFan]

Is it Christmas today?

If Bears get Holt, pretty much.

[kittensXLI]

http://f.imagehost.org/0050/bo.jpg

It's pretty crappy, but that's what happens after 20 minutes of quick tinkering and no special effects. I'll work on something awesome later tonight, maybe.

[clayj41]

Suck my ball sack bitch. BEARS GET CUTLER, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

His diabetes gives me an in. It'd be a shame if his insulin got replaced with hydrochloric acid.

[BotheDMBFan]

Brian Urlacher just gave Jay his blessing.

[BotheDMBFan]

His diabetes gives me an in. It'd be a shame if his insulin got replaced with hydrochloric acid.

He'd overcome it; cold weather numbs the effects of your silly acid.

[clayj41]

Is it Christmas today?

Only in Santa Claus, Indiana.


:lol

[Number27]

Brian Urlacher just gave Jay his blessing.
By giving him a lifetime supply of Swagger?

[JaJunk]

I was wondering why this thread was packing some heat today. Think Hester can hold onto a Cutler deep ball? Da Bears.

[Tiduwho]

I can't believe Angelo actually pulled off a trade like this. Most unexpected event I've ever had as a Bears fan.

[JaJunk]

I can't believe Angelo actually pulled off a trade like this. Most unexpected event I've ever had as a Bears fan.

Ever since I heard he was on the market I knew people in Chicago would be salivating to grab him.

[Carbon Copy]

someone explain why this is a good trade. i will put $100 bucks that the bears have a worse record next year to the first person who wants to take this bet

[Carbon Copy]

he's 17-20 as a starting quarterback. who gives a fuck about this guy. what am i missing guys

[JTRocks]

I was wondering why this thread was packing some heat today. Think Hester can hold onto a Cutler deep ball? Da Bears.

The main issue with orton was he could never connect with hester on the deep balls because his arm sucks. This is the type of qb that will make hester better

[Tiduwho]

he's 17-20 as a starting quarterback. who gives a fuck about this guy. what am i missing guys

Jay Cutler's record when his defense holds teams under 21 points:


13 - 1.

[BotheDMBFan]

Sexxxay.

[DMBZeppelin]

2009, 2010 1st Round Picks and Kyle Orton. If that's all it would take. I'd love it. Especially since our 1st rounders always suck.
I stand by this.

Really? Best deal ever? Cutler is surely an improvement over Orton but he's still one of the more overrated QB's in the league as far as I'm concerned. And we gave up two 1st rounders and a 3rd. AND Orton. That's a lot. Guess what. Cutler isn't going to have any receivers to throw to and the offensive line is still going to suck.
Jerry Angelo sucks at drafting in the 1st round. It's a known fact the Bears were going receiver in the 1st round, and that recievers taken in the 1st are a crap shoot. You can get receivers in the 2nd-5th rounds who have 1st round talent and great NFL careers.

I guarantee you it's like one of the first round picks and Orton wouldn't have been on the team in 5 years. Cutler barring injury will be.

Who's going to be the backup now? I gotta say, I like that the Bears are pursuing a QB, but I don't know if Cutler is worth 2 first round choices.
Hanie was going to be a backup for Orton, and now Cutler. The Bears really feel like they caught lightning in a bottle with him.

Zach is gunna shit himself. I called him then texted him. He won't believe it til he turns on his radio.
Like I saw the rest of this page, and thought it was a joke. I'm in disbelief.

Nice pickup guys!
:thumbsup Thank you for being classy about this. If anything I think this will make the Bears/Packers rivalry one of the best in football agan. Cutler V.s. Rodgers two times a year.

someone explain why this is a good trade. i will put $100 bucks that the bears have a worse record next year to the first person who wants to take this bet
We didn't give up a player. We're brining back the same team. Except we have Orlando Pace instead of John St. Clair. We also have Jay Cutler instead of Kyle Orton. If you need this explained to you. You lack understanding of the NFL.

he's 17-20 as a starting quarterback. who gives a fuck about this guy. what am i missing guys

Jay Cutler's record when his defense holds teams under 21 points:

13 - 1.
That one loss? The defense gave up a 82 yard TD pass to Favre. Cutler had nothing to do with that one loss. The defense had everything to do with it.

With the Bears getting Marinelli possibly the best D-line coach in the NFL. This defense should get back to where it was when Rivera left. I think the Bears could be a contender this year because of Cutler.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm still so fucking happy.

[JTRocks]

i cant wait to play a season in madden with cutler as my qb

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm a man. I generally get him after Warner starts the first year anyways. Him or Jamarcus Russell.

[kittensXLI]

I'm a man. I generally get him after Warner starts the first year anyways. Him or Jamarcus Russell.
:vomit

[BotheDMBFan]

:vomit

I usually just sim the regular season; Russell has won MVP 6 years in a row now.

[funksoul]

he's 17-20 as a starting quarterback. who gives a fuck about this guy. what am i missing guys

You are missing your vision and question marks.

[DMBZeppelin]

i cant wait to play a season in madden with cutler as my qb
:lol :thumbsup

I still play Madden 09, and I traded for him when all this crap started. Never thought it pan out. Now it will feel more legit.

[Tiduwho]

Should Cutler grow some facial hair to appease Neckbeard Nation?

[DMBZeppelin]

Cutler grew up as a Bears fan in Santa Claus, Ind., and will be reunited in Chicago with two former Vanderbilt teammates, wide receiver Earl Bennett and offensive tackle Chris Williams. Cutler thinks so much of Bennett that he returned to Vanderbilt to throw to the receiver during Bennett’s Pro Day workout a year ago.

[Carbon Copy]

You are missing your vision and question marks.

it's a message board. why worry about grammar?

[funksoul]

it's a message board. why worry about grammar?


You asked what was missing...I don't care about your grammar. ;)


Name 5 Qb's you would like to have for the next 5 years...

[kittensXLI]

Ben Roethlisberger
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Jay Cutler

[DMBZeppelin]

If Nicks slips to the bottom of the 1st. I'd like the Bears to trade up and get him. They'd still have enough ammo to do so. I think he's NFL ready, and the perfect big guy to compliment Hester and Bennett.

[hubbsguyhaah]

carson palmer and aaron rodgers over brady, manning, romo, and matt ryan?!? come on now

[BotheDMBFan]

I wouldn't want Manning for the next 5 years, same with Brady. Ryan is wait and see.

[BotheDMBFan]

And Nicks may fall to the second round. Yay.

[DMBZeppelin]

Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2140), upon hearing that Cutler was now his teammate, was stunned by the news.

"I guess the Bears felt like we needed another quarterback, so they made a move," Urlacher told the Chicago Tribune. "They gave up a lot. Cutler must be pretty good."

"I guess we got better as a team," Urlacher added, according to the newspaper. "You get a quarterback who is a Pro Bowl guy. But I will say this: I think Kyle Orton is a good quarterback. He's a great teammate. I hope he does really well in Denver."

Urlacher, for his part, does not view Cutler as an incoming troublemaker.

"I would be ticked off, too, if someone was trying to trade me and didn't tell me about it," he told the Tribune. "I don't think Jay is going to be an issue. We have a pretty good locker room, so I'm not worried about that. [Linebacker] Hunter [Hillenmeyer] knows him. And [Cutler] seems like a pretty good guy. I've never met him but I've heard good things about him. I'm not worried about him fitting in."