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DMBZeppelin

09-22-2009, 02:36 PM

Play of line crucial as Cutler attacks blitz masterfully (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-22-pompei-film-session-sep22,0,3686467.column)

After Jay Cutler felt the heat from Bears fans and the Chicago media all week, a little pressure from the Steelers was no big deal to the resilient Bears quarterback.

How Cutler and the pass protectors handled the Steelers' blitz packages was the hidden story in the Bears' dramatic 17-14 victory Sunday.

Quarterback Grade: 8

The tape shows the Steelers brought five or more pass rushers 11 times, and Cutler absolutely slew the blitz. He completed passes on nine of the blitzes for 106 yards. On those 11 blitzes, he had a 137.1 passer rating, a completion percentage of .810 and an average per completion of 11.7 yards.

Cutler had only two bad throws as a result of the pass rush -- on one he was called for intentional grounding, and the other could have been intercepted but wasn't. Interestingly, he left the pocket to throw because he was under pressure only once -- quite a departure from the previous game. Because most of the Steelers' pressure came from the outside, Cutler had to step up in the pocket more this game, and he did that well.

Bears coaches were not overly ambitious in what they asked Cutler to do, but he executed the game plan well. Six of his 27 completions were quick hits or receiver screens. Of his 38 dropbacks, only eight were seven-step drops.

The things he did best were recognize where pressure was coming from, get the throw to the right receiver and keep his wits.

Running backs Grade: 3.5

The only reason this grade isn't lower is Matt Forte made some nice catches. His running certainly was nothing special. Forte didn't have much room, but he didn't create any either. Sixty-one percent of Forte's carries were for 2 yards or fewer.

His pass protection also was beneath his standards, and he had a fumble that could have cost the Bears the game.

On the Bears' first touchdown drive, Adrian Peterson gave the offense a boost.

Wide receivers Grade: 8

The numbers weren't flashy, but the receivers did exactly what they needed to do. The thrust of the Steelers' defensive game plan was to prevent Devin Hester from making big plays, so they kept a safety on top of him for most of the game.

That opened the door for someone else, and Johnny Knox came barging through.

Knox was the whole package. He ran his routes wonderfully and already might be the Bears' best route-runner. He made difficult catches look easy. And he showed toughness -- on one second-quarter catch over the middle, he gained about 10 yards after contact and wasn't brought down until he was hit by a fourth defender.

Tight ends Grade: 6.5

Interesting day for the tight ends. Greg Olsen had two passes knocked out of his hands and fell down in the end zone before the ball got to him on what could have been a touchdown catch.

But he redeemed himself by taking a big blow over the middle from Carter and hanging on in the fourth quarter, and by recovering a fourth-quarter fumble.

Kellen Davis proved to be a capable replacement for Desmond Clark with five catches, including a touchdown. But his best play of the game went almost completely unnoticed. On an incomplete pass to Knox in the second quarter, Davis picked up not one but two blitzing Steelers and blocked both.

Offensive line Grade: 6

This unit really should get two grades: an 8 for pass protection and a 3 for run-blocking. It's a good thing pass protection was more important in this game.

The pass protection wasn't perfect -- Chris Williams and Orlando Pace were beaten a couple of times. But considering the competition, it was pretty good. And the most important thing is the Bears had the right protection calls most of the time.

Pace and guard Frank Omiyale made some nice blocks in space.

Defensive line Grade: 7

Right end Alex Brown may have been the best player on the field Sunday. He played with intensity and instinct, and stepped up with a tackle for a loss and a sack just when the team needed him most -- with the Steelers driving in the fourth quarter.

Left end Adewale Ogunleye and nose tackle Anthony Adams had some flashes. Tommie Harris had one tackle and was not much of a factor again.

Linebackers Grade: 5

The Steelers' 4.8 average per carry has to be pinned mostly on this unit, as gap control got a little sloppy as the game wore on. Lance Briggs was very active and Hunter Hillenmeyer did not play poorly in his first game replacing Brian Urlacher.

On the 1-yard touchdown pass to tight end Matt Spaeth, linebacker Jamar Williams was responsible for coverage. But he got blocked at the line of scrimmage and never got into his drop.

Safeties Grade: 6

Who would have thought rookie Al Afalava would be the Bears' best safety through two games? Afalava had some nice tackles again Sunday, including a goal-line stop on Steelers tight end Heath Miller, who outweighs him by about 45 pounds.

Danieal Manning might have prevented the Spaeth touchdown if he had not been picked by the umpire.

Kevin Payne let a potential interception go through his hands on a Ben Roethlisberger overthrow in the second quarter.

Cornerbacks Grade: 7.5

The Steelers went Charles Tillman's way all day, surprisingly never challenging Zack Bowman deep in his first NFL start. Bowman had only four passes thrown in his direction.

Tillman held up well against some good receivers with one interception and another almost interception, as well as a nice defense of a potential touchdown pass in the fourth quarter.

Special teams Grade: 9

Is there a better kicker in the NFL with the game on the line than Robbie Gould? Even Gould's kickoffs were good. Punter Brad Maynard really is stroking the ball well.

Knox added something to the return game, though Hester clearly is not in one of his grooves.

Nice forced fumble by Williams on the Steelers' last kick return to seal the victory.

JTRocks

09-23-2009, 03:43 PM

so excited for the game this sunday. i think we go in there and dominate.

What was the deal with Danieal Manning not returning the kicks on sunday? Was it because he was starting?

I dont get why they cant just throw devin in there maybe once a game. its not like he needs to know anything, when he returns its just pure instinct

DMBZeppelin

09-23-2009, 03:45 PM

What was the deal with Danieal Manning not returning the kicks on sunday? Was it because he was starting?
It was because he was starting. Normally he'd do both, but he's had hamstring issues recently. As a result of him starting Knox was active over Aromashadu because they needed a kick returner. Safe to say that with Knox leading the Bears in receiving he'll be active this weekend. Hopefully the Bears bite the bullet and just play Aromashadu over Davis.

BotheDMBFan

09-23-2009, 04:21 PM

Kurt Warner for Bears OC...in the near future...

JTRocks

09-23-2009, 04:34 PM

what?

BotheDMBFan

09-23-2009, 08:09 PM

I want Kurt as our OC, and later HC.

BustedStuff87

09-23-2009, 10:34 PM

It was because he was starting. Normally he'd do both, but he's had hamstring issues recently. As a result of him starting Knox was active over Aromashadu because they needed a kick returner. Safe to say that with Knox leading the Bears in receiving he'll be active this weekend. Hopefully the Bears bite the bullet and just play Aromashadu over Davis.

If this were to happen, dare I say.....could it be.......a Super Bowl VICTORY!

Doors Allan Coe

09-24-2009, 12:22 PM

BustedStuff87

09-24-2009, 12:28 PM

What is with all the Rasheeeeed hate?

Davis isn't the best WR in the world but he's a damn good all around football player. In reality Aromashadu had a couple of good catches in the preseason. If Knox wasn't looking so good I would be more curious to see Aromashadu play again. Sitting Davis would really do nothing more than hurt kickoff coverage. Aromashadu isn't some game breaker. He was wavied by several teams before the WR depleted Bears picked him up. I would rather have Chicago Bears journeyman Rasheeeeeed Davis in anyday...

You can fill Davis's spot with some one else on kick coverage easily. Wolfe can handle that job himself.

There's no other reason for him to be on the team because he's shaky at catching the ball. He had NUMEROUS drops last year that would've kept a drive going.

DMBZeppelin

09-24-2009, 12:32 PM

What is with all the Rasheeeeed hate?

Davis isn't the best WR in the world but he's a damn good all around football player. In reality Aromashadu had a couple of good catches in the preseason. If Knox wasn't looking so good I would be more curious to see Aromashadu play again. Sitting Davis would really do nothing more than hurt kickoff coverage. Aromashadu isn't some game breaker. He was wavied by several teams before the WR depleted Bears picked him up. I would rather have Chicago Bears journeyman Rasheeeeeed Davis in anyday...
Aromashadu is only 25, and hasn't had much a chance on other teams. All you need to know is that Jay Cutler likes him. He's more then capable of developing a receiver. He was one of Cutler's favorite targets in camp and practice. That's the reason he started the season as the third receiver over Knox. Cutler doesn't like Davis, and won't throw to him. With Davis active over Aromashadu we can't run a 4 wide set.

Doors Allan Coe

09-24-2009, 12:52 PM

Aromashadu is only 25, and hasn't had much a chance on other teams. All you need to know is that Jay Cutler likes him. He's more then capable of developing a receiver. He was one of Cutler's favorite targets in camp and practice. That's the reason he started the season as the third receiver over Knox. Cutler doesn't like Davis, and won't throw to him. With Davis active over Aromashadu we can't run a 4 wide set.

You can run a 4 wide set. Olsen can effectively line-up as a TE or WR.

The Bears have consistently had some of the best Special Teams coverage for the past several years for a reason. It's not luck you don't see our Special Teams breakdown and give up TDs often. Rasheeeed clearly isn't the better WR however he has proven effective in the slot and seems to remain on the roster all these year for a reason.

Lovie is a Defensive minded coach. Toub is a great special teams coach. Cutler has enough weapons. Hester/Bennett/Knox/Olsen/Forte plus Dez and Kellen both are great #2 TEs.

Is having an untested #4 WR really that big of a deal. I think the team looked good Sunday. Aromashadu will eventually get on the field. I just don't think it should be at the expense of the Special Teams unit. Our top Special Teams has kept us in many games in the past.

I'm not the coach the clearly Rasheeeeed is a fighter and earned his spot.

JTRocks

09-24-2009, 01:03 PM

Doors Allan Coe

09-24-2009, 01:14 PM

i would actually much rather see a 4 wide set with Olsen lined up in there instead of one of our unproven WRs.

Seatles best LB Tatupu might be out for this sunday, and if he is, i think it could be Olsen's break out game for this season

Hopefully it is. He's been covered like crazy. It looks like Green Bay and Pitt both bought into the preseason hype.

Three WR with Olsen at TE is really the best set. With Olsen lined up as TE it creates a chance for some nice mismatches if a LB is covering him. With the Seahawks seemingly riddled with injuries Olsen should do well. I'm sure he will also benefit from the emergence of Johnny Knox.

Who do opposing teams worry about? Last year is was just Forte and Hester. This season it's Forte/Hester/Knox/Olsen as playmakers. They can't shadow everyone...

DMBZeppelin

09-24-2009, 02:33 PM

Rasheeeed clearly isn't the better WR however he has proven effective in the slot and seems to remain on the roster all these year for a reason.
He's been on the roster because we didn't have anyone else before. Keep in mind it's not like Davis is the best special teams player in the world. While as we go farther into the season we will run the ball more, but clearly our bread and butter is the passing game. I'd rather only have 2 tight ends if Rashid is that important. Gaines has been active and he's the 3rd TE/FB.

It's entirely possible Aromshadu is bad. Given how much Cutler likes him and all offseason went out of his way to mention him. I'd like to see if he can develop him.

I just don't think it should be at the expense of the Special Teams unit. Our top Special Teams has kept us in many games in the past.
I agree we should keep the special teams in tact, but lets not do it at the expense of the receiver position. Want Rashid on ST? That's fine, but activate one less linebacker, or corner.

Who do opposing teams worry about? Last year is was just Forte and Hester. This season it's Forte/Hester/Knox/Olsen as playmakers. They can't shadow everyone...
That was kind of my point in the previous post. If you add one more weapon that's one more people for them to worry about. Because Aromashadu is bigger then Knox and Hester, but fast enough to stretch the field. I don't want Knox and Aromashadu to alternate being active.

Azwethinkweist

09-24-2009, 03:27 PM

Daaaa Bears.

BustedStuff87

09-24-2009, 06:43 PM

I like Da Bears bro.

cwsrule88

09-24-2009, 07:34 PM

i like the bears chances against seattle this weekend

Tiduwho

09-24-2009, 07:52 PM

If we lose to Seneca Wallace just...wow would I be dying.

Remember a few years ago when Seneca had like two good games and managed to swing that into hype of being one of the best backups in the league? LMFAO.

Overrated garbage player needs to be exposed again this weekend..

DMBZeppelin

09-24-2009, 07:56 PM

Expect Forte's coming out party. Seattle has been horrible against the run their first two games.

Doors Allan Coe

09-24-2009, 09:17 PM

It's entirely possible Aromshadu is bad. Given how much Cutler likes him and all offseason went out of his way to mention him. I'd like to see if he can develop him.

That is what practice is for. I'm sure if Aromshadu would greatly help the offense they would activate him. There is no logical reason to have a 5th WR activated for the type of offense the Bears run. A 3rd TE is important because we run a 2 TE set often. The Chicago Bears aren't exactly running 4 WR sets often and 2/3 of the time when they do Olsen is the 4th WR. It is really just unnecessary. I'm sure somebody will get banged up and Aromshadu will be activated without a second thought.

I'm not sure when Cutler said "I like Aromshadu more than Knox/Hester/Bennett." I remember his vaguely hinting that he like Aromshadu more than our 3rd rounder who couldn't be cut. But, other than that I don't think he implied "Aromshadu is my favorite" or "Aromshadu is the best option"

I agree we should keep the special teams in tact, but lets not do it at the expense of the receiver position. Want Rashid on ST? That's fine, but activate one less linebacker, or corner.

Come on man. This is the Chicago Bears. With our porous D it wouldn't exactly be a wise idea to not dress a defender over a WR who will see what 10-15 plays tops, prob even less? More so than ever we need fresh defenders rotating in.

I'm not saying Aromshadu couldn't make a difference but this isn't fantasy football. I would much rather have seamless special teams play and enough defenders dressed than have Aromshadu catch 3 catches for 43 yards. What is he going to do as a #4 WR? He doesn't return kicks. He doesn't play special team (yet). Rasheed knows the playbook inside and out. He plays special teams and it is sad to say but he is our most experienced professional WR. Rasheed doesn't have the best hand, but he hasn't been around all these year because he is a one trick pony. Oddly enough he also can play CB if needed.

DMBZeppelin

09-25-2009, 12:03 AM

That is what practice is for. I'm sure if Aromshadu would greatly help the offense they would activate him. There is no logical reason to have a 5th WR activated for the type of offense the Bears run.
In practice Aromashadu has been one of Cutler's favorite targets. The only reason he missed the GB game was because of a quad injury. Against the Steelers with Manning starting they needed a kick returner. So Knox got the start over Aromashadu despite the fact he's the third receiver. Knox will again be returning kicks in Seattle because of Manning starting. Who they don't want to over work coming off a bad ham string.

I'm not sure when Cutler said "I like Aromshadu more than Knox/Hester/Bennett." I remember his vaguely hinting that he like Aromshadu more than our 3rd rounder who couldn't be cut. But, other than that I don't think he implied "Aromshadu is my favorite" or "Aromshadu is the best option"
Watch/listen to any Cutler interview from this offseason. He brought him up a lot. It's no secret he lobbied for Aromashadu and Rideau to make the roster over Davis. The Bears let him have one of them. Cutler liked Aromashadu and Rideau better then Knox and Igelasias.

The emergence of Knox has been a pleasent surprise. Cutler rarely threw to either rookie in camp or practice. Obviously due to injuries he was forced into the lineup, and he's coming along quick. Cutler is a lot happier with him now. Going into the season in terms of Cutler's favorite targets:

1. Olsen
2. Aromashadu
3. Bennett
4. Hester
5. Rideau
6. Knox
7. Igelsias
8. Davis

Come on man. This is the Chicago Bears. With our porous D it wouldn't exactly be a wise idea to not dress a defender over a WR who will see what 10-15 plays tops, prob even less? More so than ever we need fresh defenders rotating in.
Defense seems to be fine to me. I could say the same thing about the defense. Some of these backups don't play at all. Cutler has already said this week publically that he wants D.A. out there.

I'm not saying Aromshadu couldn't make a difference but this isn't fantasy football. I would much rather have seamless special teams play and enough defenders dressed than have Aromshadu catch 3 catches for 43 yards. What is he going to do as a #4 WR? He doesn't return kicks. He doesn't play special team (yet). Rasheed knows the playbook inside and out. He plays special teams and it is sad to say but he is our most experienced professional WR. Rasheed doesn't have the best hand, but he hasn't been around all these year because he is a one trick pony. Oddly enough he also can play CB if needed.
What does it matter if Rashid knows the playbook? You haven't seen him on the field at all. Because Cutler doesn't like him. Maybe that will change, but everyone knows his making the roster had nothing to do with catching the ball. How important do you think Davis is to our overall special teams? Because I don't think he's a difference maker the way Adrian Peterson is.

I know you assume he's the 4th receiver, but he's not. He's the third receiver who hasn't gotten a shot to play. I just can't believe you'd rather take away a target Cutler likes to play a guy who does nothing on offense and is marginal at special teams.

funksoul

09-25-2009, 12:23 AM

Tiduwho

09-25-2009, 08:50 AM

Where is he rated? :confused

Again, a couple years ago when he had a couple good games subbing for Hass. Then lived off it ever since. In the "who's the best backup in the league" contest, the names brought up were always Seneca Wallace, Jim Sorgi, Matt Schaub, and Billy Volek. Schaub was the only one that was actually good and had talent.

During that period, he was "overrated". He lived off it hiding behind Hass until last year, when people realized he's actually bad.

Doors Allan Coe

09-25-2009, 12:16 PM

Going into the season in terms of Cutler's favorite targets:

1. Olsen
2. Aromashadu
3. Bennett
4. Hester
5. Rideau
6. Knox
7. Igelsias
8. Davis

Are there some sort stats for targets during practice or something? I'm not trying to break your balls on this one. I just have never seen a list of favorite targets. Did you make this or was this published by bloggers watching practice?

If Cutler really loves him that much I'm shocked they don't activate him. The ONE interview I did see him mention this WR preferences I thought he was referencing the fact he liked both Aromashadu and Rideau over Igleseas and Davis. He mentioned how money wise the Bears couldn't keep everyone. I thought he was referencing Igleseas who signed his 3rd round tender.

What does it matter if Rashid knows the playbook? You haven't seen him on the field at all. Because Cutler doesn't like him. Maybe that will change, but everyone knows his making the roster had nothing to do with catching the ball. How important do you think Davis is to our overall special teams? Because I don't think he's a difference maker the way Adrian Peterson is.

I know you assume he's the 4th receiver, but he's not. He's the third receiver who hasn't gotten a shot to play. I just can't believe you'd rather take away a target Cutler likes to play a guy who does nothing on offense and is marginal at special teams.

You can't take away something he never had. I really like Cutler. I love this attitude. I love the fact he is honest. I love the fact be pisses off the media. However, I don't think "What Cutler wants, Cutler gets" is what should be happening in Chicago. If we didn't have any weapons I would agree with you. But we have several weapons. NONE have even shown what they are capable of yet. Hester/Bennett/Olsen/Knox all have HUGE untapped potential. I just don't see what difference one more guy with little expierience will help a team full of guys in the same boat. Hester/Bennett/Olsen/Know/Kellen all were drafted by JA. You can bet your ass he's giving them the benefit of the doubt over a guy who was cut by several other teams.

I respect your opinion but is it what it is. If we were running a "West Coast" offense I would agree the a #4 would help. But, we don't. What #4's make a difference? I couple of catches here and there. Even on pass heavy teams a #4 is an after thought most of the time...Who is behind Breaston in Arizona? Who is Peyton's #4? Off the top of your head it's hard to remember...

Doors Allan Coe

09-25-2009, 12:17 PM

Again, a couple years ago when he had a couple good games subbing for Hass. Then lived off it ever since. In the "who's the best backup in the league" contest, the names brought up were always Seneca Wallace, Jim Sorgi, Matt Schaub, and Billy Volek. Schaub was the only one that was actually good and had talent.

During that period, he was "overrated". He lived off it hiding behind Hass until last year, when people realized he's actually bad.

Wallace is a middle of the road back-up with the potential to stun and embarass an unprepared team with his agility and above average play when he is playing well.

DMBZeppelin

09-25-2009, 01:03 PM

I respect your opinion but is it what it is. If we were running a "West Coast" offense I would agree the a #4 would help. But, we don't. What #4's make a difference? I couple of catches here and there. Even on pass heavy teams a #4 is an after thought most of the time...Who is behind Breaston in Arizona? Who is Peyton's #4? Off the top of your head it's hard to remember...
I'm on my way to the DMB show tonight in Iowa. I'll reply to some of your other points later. Anyways:

- Aromashadu isn't the 4th receiver. He's the third. That's what the Bears depth chart says anyways. If he played I think Bennett would turn into the 4th.
- The Bears do run the West Coast offense. This is common knowledge.

Doors Allan Coe

09-25-2009, 02:35 PM

- The Bears do run the West Coast offense. This is common knowledge.

Let's not try and compare Ron Turner's scheme to Bill Walsh's scheme.

West Coast offense and the Bear offense are in theory polar opposites.

Lovie Smith makes is painfully clear he subscribes to the idea that a strong running game opens up the passing game. The West Coast offense is the opposite.

We do run quick slants and stuff similar to a tradition West Coast O, but that is about it. We use a West Coast passing scheme but not a traditional West Coast offense. It's like saying the Bears D is a Cover 2 when in reality it's a hybrid of several systems.

I'm not a professional coach and I didn't look up the specifics but that is what I was taught when I played football. I never played in a West Coast O. I've only played in a traditional scheme in which the run was supposed to open up passing lanes...

Well have fun at the show...Hopefully your encore is I Did It...I'm kidding... I actually enjoy our pissing matches in the Bears thread.

DMBZeppelin

09-25-2009, 03:14 PM

Doors Allan Coe

09-25-2009, 04:35 PM

I also enjoy debating Bears.

No one can run Bill Walsh's WCO because we lack Montana and Rice. Ron Turner loves to throw the ball, and uses the run game to setup the play action pass. We passed 55% of the time last year. It just never looked great with Orton. Lovie saying "We get off the bus running." is to appease the meat heads. Same reason he said beating GB was goal #1 when he took the job.

Though while Lovie says we're a running team. That's because Jones and Forte could be trusted. That wasn't the case with our QB's. Lovie tried to install a Martz passing system with Terry Shea when he got here. He got to see Warner/Bulger in St. Louis. We didn't give up two 1st to run. The Bears are now in the business of winning. If it means passing or throwing we'll do it. Lovie may say we run the ball, but Turner doesn't. He was asked about why there wasn't any balance this year and he blew it off.

That makes me a meathead. I don't have "Get off the bus running" tattooed on me. The Bears typically do that because our running backs are better than our quarterbacks. They run early and often. Once it gets colder and messier a persistent running game pays dividends. The defense gets to rest, lower chance of turnovers, and a general sense of ass kicking. There is nothing more enjoyable than watching the Bears suit up and weather the sloppy, cold, snow covered field. Up until two weeks ago, we HAD to get off the bus running, we didn't in 2006, but Rex Grossman scared us back into it. Kyle Orton gave us no reason not to.

When Lovie said beating GB was his #1 goal, I was excited. Up to that point Green Bay had been totally embarrassing us. Losing 2 games a year, every year doesn't add up to success. It's an Achilles heel. You could see things changed and we didn't have to hope for a 9-7 season. Imagine if we beat Green Bay week one? The talking heads would be crowning them the best team in the league. Instead of total confidence a feeling of uncertainty looms overhead. Obviously that can change on Sunday. If Green Bay weren't good for so many years it wouldn't mean anything. Favre had a really good run and Rodgers looks great. Imagine what Favre could have done if you turn all our wins under Lovie into losses...The Packer used to be guaranteed losses.

Packers went 13-3 in Favre's last season, that would have been 15-1. We really were a pain in his ass for his last few years in Green Bay. Hopefully we continue to make his life a living hell. Too bad Peterson is just so damn good. He is so good it frightens me.

DMBZeppelin

09-25-2009, 05:09 PM

That makes me a meathead. I don't have "Get off the bus running" tattooed on me. The Bears typically do that because our running backs are better than our quarterbacks. They run early and often. Once it gets colder and messier a persistent running game pays dividends. The defense gets to rest, lower chance of turnovers, and a general sense of ass kicking. There is nothing more enjoyable than watching the Bears suit up and weather the sloppy, cold, snow covered field. Up until two weeks ago, we HAD to get off the bus running, we didn't in 2006, but Rex Grossman scared us back into it. Kyle Orton gave us no reason not to.
Since you understand that you don't qualify as a meathead. There's a faction of the Bears fan base who only want to run the ball. Passing scares them. Run:Pass ratio shouldn't matter to anyone if we win. Cold weather didn't stop Montana and Rice from coming in here in January and passing all over the Bears. Cutler has a cold weather arm.

When Lovie said beating GB was his #1 goal, I was excited. Up to that point Green Bay had been totally embarrassing us. Losing 2 games a year, every year doesn't add up to success.
Lovie was talking to the people who'd be happy to go 2-14 if those two wins are the Packers. I hate the Packers more then any other NFL team. The number one goal should ALWAYS be to win the Super Bowl. We could go 14-2 and get swept by the Pack every year, but if we won it all I'd be just as happy.

BotheDMBFan

09-25-2009, 05:26 PM

DA = Should be playing.
RD = Should be practice squad.

cwsrule88

09-25-2009, 06:44 PM

i hope forte has a huge game this weekend and they atleast get some form of a run game going

Tiduwho

09-25-2009, 07:57 PM

No excuse for losing.

BotheDMBFan

09-25-2009, 11:52 PM

God damn.

Doors Allan Coe

09-26-2009, 09:46 AM

Lovie was talking to the people who'd be happy to go 2-14 if those two wins are the Packers. I hate the Packers more then any other NFL team. The number one goal should ALWAYS be to win the Super Bowl. We could go 14-2 and get swept by the Pack every year, but if we won it all I'd be just as happy.

I really can't imagine somebody hating Green Bay so much that they would be happy with a 2-14 season. Obviously every teams goal every year is to win the Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure Lovie wasn't trying to imply he would be happy JUST beating the Packers. The difference between 8-8 and 10-6 used to be the Packers any given year. The Bears were pretty uncompetitive for a while. Terrible drafts. Terrible Qbs. Laughable D. We're not talking a season were talking from like 15+ years of being so-so or bad. I'm on board with Lovie and JA. They are the cats pajamas compared to past administrations.

JTRocks

09-26-2009, 01:32 PM

DMBZeppelin

09-26-2009, 05:30 PM

I really can't imagine somebody hating Green Bay so much that they would be happy with a 2-14 season. Obviously every teams goal every year is to win the Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure Lovie wasn't trying to imply he would be happy JUST beating the Packers. The difference between 8-8 and 10-6 used to be the Packers any given year. The Bears were pretty uncompetitive for a while. Terrible drafts. Terrible Qbs. Laughable D. We're not talking a season were talking from like 15+ years of being so-so or bad. I'm on board with Lovie and JA. They are the cats pajamas compared to past administrations.
See this is why you're not a meat head. These fans do exist. They care more about just beating the Packers then the playoffs. They care more about our linebacker and running back tradition then being a good offense. Go to the message boards on ESPN.com. Listen to 670 the Score or ESPN 1000.

I was listening to Boers and Bernstein yesterday. At a recent show where they did it on location at a Buffallo Wild Wings, or something like that. This guy who they said besides being an idiot was a nice guy. Came up and was screaming about "CUTLER SUCKS! BRING BACK ORTON! THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE TRADED HIM!" and they asked him "Do you actually believe Kyle Orton is a better QB then Jay Cutler?" and he said "No... but CUTLER SUCKS!"

BotheDMBFan

09-26-2009, 11:07 PM

Zach when in the show did that assbandit say that?

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 04:14 AM

Are there some sort stats for targets during practice or something? I'm not trying to break your balls on this one. I just have never seen a list of favorite targets. Did you make this or was this published by bloggers watching practice?
Just because I told you I'd get back to this. Every major sports writer/reporter who covers the Bears that went to all the Bears training camp practices. Guys like Zach Zaidman, David Haugh, Jerry Azumah, Mike Mulligan, Jeff Dickerson, David Haugh, Vaughn McClure, Brad Biggs, That guy from ChicagoBears.com, I think his name is Larry. I mean basically any form of Chicago media be it offical website, radio, newspaper, ect. had reports from each practice. I listened and read the stuff everyday. I know bothedmbfan did as well. We discussed this stuff as training camp was going on.

If Cutler really loves him that much I'm shocked they don't activate him. The ONE interview I did see him mention this WR preferences I thought he was referencing the fact he liked both Aromashadu and Rideau over Igleseas and Davis. He mentioned how money wise the Bears couldn't keep everyone. I thought he was referencing Igleseas who signed his 3rd round tender.
DA was hurt the 1st game. Which was the only reason Knox was active. They needed a returner the 2nd game because Manning couldn't start and return kickoffs. So Knox got the nod again. I'd hate to see Knox miss games because they want to get DA some playing time.

Cutler has talked about Aromashadu in multiple interviews. The first big one about him was when he was interviewed after Family Night at Soilder Field. Look for Bears articles written around that time.

I really like Cutler. I love this attitude. I love the fact he is honest. I love the fact be pisses off the media. However, I don't think "What Cutler wants, Cutler gets" is what should be happening in Chicago.
I disagree. As long as he isn't saying "Go sign this guy, trade for Marshall." ect. ect. Then I have no problem with him deciding what receivers make the team. He's the one who has to trust these guys.

Zach when in the show did that assbandit say that?
I don't know if it happened earlier in the show, but they were talked about the whole incident on Friday's show.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 04:16 AM

Seahawks are suppose to wear their lime green jersey's tomorrow. Those are some ugly jerseys. They are doing this to distract the Bears, I'm sure of it.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 10:17 AM

Lets go BEARS!!!

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 11:58 AM

Hass officially ruled out.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 01:11 PM

Just because I told you I'd get back to this. Every major sports writer/reporter who covers the Bears that went to all the Bears training camp practices. Guys like Zach Zaidman, David Haugh, Jerry Azumah, Mike Mulligan, Jeff Dickerson, David Haugh, Vaughn McClure, Brad Biggs, That guy from ChicagoBears.com, I think his name is Larry. I mean basically any form of Chicago media be it offical website, radio, newspaper, ect. had reports from each practice. I listened and read the stuff everyday. I know bothedmbfan did as well. We discussed this stuff as training camp was going on.

Woah....footballaholic...

...there's a 12 step program for you guys, I think. ;)

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 01:22 PM

Woah....footballaholic...

...there's a 12 step program for you guys, I think. ;)

Too many steps.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 02:06 PM

Woah....footballaholic...

...there's a 12 step program for you guys, I think. ;)
Last time I tried all I did with my sponsor was talk about football.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 02:19 PM

:lol

Well, it's good for the rest of us....where else would we get all of these ridiculous statistics?

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 03:19 PM

Inactive for the Bears: Aromashadu, Iglesias, Smith Moore, Tinoisamoa, Louis, Toeaina, Clark.

Gilbert will see his first NFL action.

Walter Jones (LT), Hasselbeck (QB), and their MLB Tofuptu or however you spell it will all miss the game.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 04:10 PM

What a wasted first drive.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 04:15 PM

Well looks like they marched right down the field.....

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:16 PM

This season is over.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:24 PM

What the FUCK? What did Cutler do???

Are they trying to say he did the same thing that Favre did????? Crack back? He went at his waist and feel down, and from the FRONT? How is that a penalty?

WTF????

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 04:28 PM

God damn it, IT'S THE SEAHAWKS...FUCK.

water_into_wine

09-27-2009, 04:30 PM

I need Cutler to have a good game because I have Bennett and Knox starting. I don't care about interceptions though :D

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 04:30 PM

Looks like we got INT-Cutler today.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 04:31 PM

Umm why are we losing to this team of backups.....

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:32 PM

Omg, lmao at that holding. Omg, lmao. Thye didn't show it!!!!! Omg, they showed the other side Alex Brown. LMAO!!!!

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:33 PM

Looks like we got INT-Cutler today.

:twak

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 04:37 PM

This is an absolute joke. 10-0 to the Seahawks? After that kickoff return? Seriously. That's pathetic. Jay Cutler, you need to pull your head out of your ass. Know when to pull it down, seriously. Defense, please man up. You are giving Seneca Wallace so many easy passes? Why do we play such shitty defensive schemes in the secondary?????

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:42 PM

We're blitzing, Seattle knows it, and is doing 1 to 3 step drops and slants/screens to compensate.

Pathetic.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:46 PM

Another botched snap to blame Rex for.

rconverse

09-27-2009, 04:46 PM

Wow. Bears look like shit today.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:48 PM

What is going on here.......?

1st down WHO?

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 04:49 PM

What the crap?

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 04:50 PM

What the hell is this team doing?

Gould misses FG
godawful tackling > TD
Cutler interception
botched snap on 3rd and short
botched punt

How can you play any worse than this? This team needs to fucking man up immediately? Have they even been coached this week or have they been sitting at home just fucking around???

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 04:55 PM

Seriously. What the fuck is going on? Why the fucking Cover 2? WHY????

UCFish

09-27-2009, 04:57 PM

Ok lets start playing for real now......this is a joke.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 04:59 PM

ok, this is the most important drive of the game right here. A touchdown is a must.

DMBCubs25

09-27-2009, 05:05 PM

offense looks like complete shit

UCFish

09-27-2009, 05:06 PM

terrible

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 05:06 PM

God damn it.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:08 PM

Game over.

This team is just playing really really bad. And what happened to the play calling from the drive that they reached the endzone?? They were moving downfield with ease. Now Ron Turner decides to go back to run-run-pass??? What a fucking joke. Jay Cutler can throw the goddamn ball. You don't need to establish the run (not to mention it's fucking pathetic that they can't run against the Seahawks, though Forte is doing everything he can).

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:08 PM

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:09 PM

The biggest problem this game is the defense can't stop the Seahawks on 3rd down. They've scored on every possession. I'm not too worried about the offense.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 05:10 PM

Nice sack

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:11 PM

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:15 PM

3rd and 1... with Forte starting to heat up I'd like to see a play action here. I'd also like to see us go for it on 4th down if we don't pick this up.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:15 PM

This game has shown me we should just give up on our run game. Maybe use it to surprise a team, but let Forte get his hands on the ball with short passes. This O-line just can't run block. Maybe put Beekman in since he can run block.

Yeah. They just can't run it up the middle. Ever. If they try it on 3rd down they'd be stupid.

And the lack of ability to stop teams on 3rd and long is nothing new. The cover 2 just gives up so many of those goddamn plays. Just stop using it plz.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:16 PM

Play action to Olsen!!!

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:17 PM

I just fucking said, DO NOT RUN THE FUCKING BALL ON 1st and goal from the 10 yard line.

What a STUPID waste of a down.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:17 PM

Fumble.... I hate life.

rconverse

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Whoops.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Lmfao....

DMBCubs25

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

How many red zone turnovers are we going to commit, my god

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Gotta review it no matter what here.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

I think we could win this challenge.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Okay, it's close. Not sure at this point.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

What the fuck. Honestly. Why are you even trying that. More fucking careless mistakes. This challenge is going to be a big fail. That was pure stupidity right there.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Come on...

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:20 PM

Seriously, what is this team thinking today? They have not done a single thing right. At all. This is a fucking nightmare. Especially after the Vikings pull that win out of their asses at the end. This is fucking sad, sad, sad. Just a team of mistakes. They can't just play sound football. They haven't all year, today is no different.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:20 PM

He's definitely down from that back view. Yeah baby! Clear as day!

UCFish

09-27-2009, 05:21 PM

Still under review?

DMBCubs25

09-27-2009, 05:21 PM

No chance they overturn this

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:22 PM

DOWN BY CONTACT :multi

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:22 PM

What the fuck. Honestly. Why are you even trying that. More fucking careless mistakes. This challenge is going to be a big fail. That was pure stupidity right there.

:banned

DMBCubs25

09-27-2009, 05:22 PM

WOW, did not think they would actually overturn that

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:22 PM

Wow. Worst call of the season.

Hochuli'd

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:23 PM

What the fuckkkk????

They get a gift and fucking waste it with that moronic run play??? WHAT THE FUCKKK?????

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:23 PM

Lol, and instead of the obvious playaction rollout to Olsen, they run the ball. Lmao....

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 05:23 PM

Go. For. It.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:23 PM

Ron Turner, please go fuck yourself. That was the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:24 PM

We need to go for it. I want Cutler in shotgun. No play action here. Give him time to make a quick throw, or if they don't blitz he could easily run it in. I'm just worried if we do a play action Cutler will get sacked.

rickyh24

09-27-2009, 05:25 PM

Looking good today.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:25 PM

This is the ugliest thing I have seen in a long, long time

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:25 PM

Styx Cover Band

09-27-2009, 05:25 PM

I say run it up the middle. It hasn't worked at all this game, maybe it will work this time :rolleyes f'n Ron Turner

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:26 PM

TD TO GREG OLSEN! :multi :multi

But see the play action shit he almost got sacked. I don't like that in that situation.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 05:26 PM

Thank god.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:26 PM

Hey people it's not like he ran with McKie or Peterson. This is Matt Forte. He needs to be apart of this offense. You're all just upset it didn't work. That's fine, but running in that situation a lot of good teams would call that.

You were exactly right, thankfully Cutler got it out quick enough.

Seriously, again this week, Cutler is our best player. And he made a stupid interception. Pretty much tells you how bad we are today.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:27 PM

Lol, and instead of the obvious playaction rollout to Olsen, they run the ball. Lmao....

That's what I'm fucking talking about. Should have done that last down.

By the way, there was also offsides AND roughing the passer on that play.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 05:27 PM

TOUCHDOWN! Nice.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:28 PM

You were exactly right, thankfully Cutler got it out quick enough.

Seriously, again this week, Cutler is our best player. And he made a stupid interception. Pretty much tells you how bad we are today.

Why do you keep acting like that was Cutler's interception? Knox was a retard and the ball kept getting tipped. How many times did that ball get tipped?

That's not on Cutler. He shouldn't have thrown at all, but that doesn't mean he made the bad play. Why are you in such a rush to blame him? :confused

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:28 PM

I want to see the defense get Cutler the ball before the half is over. We still have 2 timeouts.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:30 PM

Wow, we look like geniuses running into each other.

And Bowman is hurt AGAIN. Fucking fuck. Please be back in the 2nd half. No more Vasher please....

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:30 PM

Cutler is our best player. And he made a stupid interception. Pretty much tells you how bad we are today.
On that play Cutler was getting chased, and yes he threw it high. It was Knox tipping it to the defender as to why it was an INT. Those kind of things will happen with this guy. He makes plays when others wouldn't be able to. How many QB's could come out of that play action pass and make that quick of a read and throw? He's special, but Cutler will cost the Bears some games with his arm. Chances are he'll win A LOT more because of it.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:31 PM

Special teams is shit today. usually the best part of our team.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:32 PM

Here comes the Prevent yourself from winning defense. Yay!!!

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:33 PM

Wow. Why do we play the cover 2? We ar egetting shredded by Seneca Wallace. It's really pathetic. You just cannot give up so many points.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 05:34 PM

Defense just getting shredded.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:36 PM

Damnit I wish the Bears would use their timeout. When you have Cutler I always want to give him a chance to run a few plays. Even we have 20 seconds. Lets see if he can hit someone deep. Just see what happens.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:37 PM

SEAHAWKS MISS IT!!!! :multi

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:37 PM

Don't down it. Hail Mary plz!!!!

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:38 PM

:lol Forte just falls.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:39 PM

This defense needs to come out and send a message to start the 2nd half. A quick 3 and out is what I want to see.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Hey people it's not like he ran with McKie or Peterson. This is Matt Forte. He needs to be apart of this offense. You're all just upset it didn't work. That's fine, but running in that situation a lot of good teams would call that.

Ok, but you're contradicting yourself. A few pages back you said the Bears have to realize that our offensive line just gives us no run game. Forte has done one really dumb thing today and the refs bailed him out. Otherwise, he has done all he can for yards, but just trying to jam it up the middle with our o-line is just stupid. Especially when Cutler is so good with these play action plays and the short goal-line pass plays.

On that play Cutler was getting chased, and yes he threw it high. It was Knox tipping it to the defender as to why it was an INT. Those kind of things will happen with this guy. He makes plays when others wouldn't be able to. How many QB's could come out of that play action pass and make that quick of a read and throw? He's special, but Cutler will cost the Bears some games with his arm. Chances are he'll win A LOT more because of it.

Right, Knox had a mis-timed jump but what do you want him to do? had he not tipped it the guy might've intercepted it anyway. He was just giving the most effort he could to try to get the ball. And sure there was an element of bad luck there. But, it was still a missed throw that if on target, we aren't having this discussion. You can't just pawn off all the blame onto the rest of the team.

I mean, I've already said that, despite a botched snap and INT, Cutler has been the best player on the team today. But I'm not going to give him a pass for every ill-advised pass he makes.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:51 PM

Ok, but you're contradicting yourself. A few pages back you said the Bears have to realize that our offensive line just gives us no run game. Forte has done one really dumb thing today and the refs bailed him out. Otherwise, he has done all he can for yards, but just trying to jam it up the middle with our o-line is just stupid. Especially when Cutler is so good with these play action plays and the short goal-line pass plays.
At that time we weren't doing anything. Run blocking has been our problem. Thing is it wasn't like it was 3rd and 10. It was 3rd and short. Even if the run game is crap. I do believe Forte can pick up 1-2 yards.

Right, Knox had a mis-timed jump but what do you want him to do? had he not tipped it the guy might've intercepted it anyway. He was just giving the most effort he could to try to get the ball. And sure there was an element of bad luck there. But, it was still a missed throw that if on target, we aren't having this discussion. You can't just pawn off all the blame onto the rest of the team.
I don't blame Knox for trying to make a play. Just like I don't blame Cutler for trying to get it to Knox while being chased. I mean look at the Olsen TD. That was almost a sack. I don't want Cutler throwing into triple coverage because that me is a terrible INT. Sure Cutler would like that one back, but he's always going to try and make that play.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:54 PM

At that time we weren't doing anything. Run blocking has been our problem. Thing is it wasn't like it was 3rd and 10. It was 3rd and short. Even if the run game is crap. I do believe Forte can pick up 1-2 yards.

I don't blame Knox for trying to make a play. Just like I don't blame Cutler for trying to get it to Knox while being chased. I mean look at the Olsen TD. That was almost a sack. I don't want Cutler throwing into triple coverage because that me is a terrible INT. Sure Cutler would like that one back, but he's always going to try and make that play.

That's fine, but I still dont' think you do the ultra-predictable run play there when you get second life....

...and the pass wasn't so much ill-advised as just overthrown. I'm still going to give him the blame even if it was a bit of a fluke play.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:55 PM

:multi FUMBLE AND BEARS RECOVER!!!! YES YES YES YES!

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:56 PM

Yeah baby. Fumble, eat your words Houshmanzadeh.

Kill them, touchdown. RIGHT NOW. No more f'ing around.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:56 PM

Fuck yes Cutler.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

We got this game, do not worry. Throw it to Olsen in the end zone. Again. Right now.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

...and the pass wasn't so much ill-advised as just overthrown. I'm still going to give him the blame even if it was a bit of a fluke play.
I never said you were wrong for blaming him. I just don't feel like it was a stupid interception. The ones where you go "WHAT WERE YOU DOING!?"

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

Hester's hands have improved so much....keeps getting better and better as a receiver.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

I said PLAYACTION you stupid fuck Rutner!!!!

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:58 PM

JOHNNY KNOX :multi!!

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 05:59 PM

Knox baby!!! Picked him up and started him in Fantasy,.

Fuck yeah!!!!!!! :mutli

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 05:59 PM

I think this TD stands!

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 05:59 PM

I never said you were wrong for blaming him. I just don't feel like it was a stupid interception. The ones where you go "WHAT WERE YOU DOING!?"

Right, but I just think that you have to be a bit more careful when you get inside the red zone.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:00 PM

Knox's last step was in bounds. Remember that goal line wraps all the way around the world. As long as Knox is in bounds and it goes past the goal line it's a TD.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:00 PM

Okay, i've had a bucnh of beers, but no it's time for Heradura Reposada Tequila!!!

Yeah baby!!!! :multi

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:01 PM

IT'S GOOD!!! WOOOOO! :multi

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:02 PM

Okay, i've had a bucnh of beers, but no it's time for Heradura Reposada Tequila!!!

Yeah baby!!!! :multi

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:03 PM

Ok defense you have the lead. No excuses just stop the Seahawks.

rickyh24

09-27-2009, 06:05 PM

Okay, i've had a bucnh of beers, but no it's time for Heradura Reposada Tequila!!!

Yeah baby!!!! :multi

DMBCubs25

09-27-2009, 06:05 PM

Glad i picked up Knox in fantasy, fuck yea!

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:06 PM

Here we go with stupid penalties.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:06 PM

Omg...he facemasked the SHIT out of him....

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:07 PM

God what stupidity. Idiots. And it was a dangerous play as well.

STOP WITH THE FUCKIN PENALTIES!!!

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:08 PM

Lol, facemask AGAIN!!!!

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:08 PM

Absolute stupidity.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:08 PM

I'm so angry right now. These facemask penalties didn't have to be made. We were going to tackle them regardless.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:09 PM

How did we score?

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:10 PM

Can't beleive senscea keeps making these throws iunder pressure

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:11 PM

How did we score?

Johnny Knox baby!

Stipped Housh on the 1st play, then drove a bit. Knox 10 yards or something, reach for the pylon, nailed it.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:11 PM

Can't beleive senscea keeps making these throws iunder pressure
This is what's making me angry. Force Seneca to pick you apart. He's too fast. We keep sending too many people and getting burned. Force him to make reads and pick apart our coverage. He's not the most accurate QB, but he can hit people wide open on the run.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:13 PM

Wow! I CAN'T BELIEVE HE MISSED A 34 YARDER!!! THANK JESUS!

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:14 PM

Goddamn. These have been some ugly football games so far this year. Another missed FG....yikes

Seriously, with the last play of the 1st half and the start of this 2nd half, the Seahawks are really repaying the favor with their own sloppy play.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:14 PM

Now THAT'S the Olindo Mare I remember from the Dolphins. LMFAO!!!! :multi

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:14 PM

Wide

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:15 PM

What the shit? How hard is it to kick an extra point? Jesus.

Ask Mason Crosby.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:15 PM

I'd like to see a bomb to Hester on this drive.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:16 PM

Why even THROW THE BALL THERE>>?>>?>

Bubble screens NEVER WORK.

What a nother fucking WATDST of adown

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:17 PM

Well that was some ugly play calling.

2 straight screens to Hester....and then on 3rd down you just try to chuck it deep? Hmm....

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:17 PM

What a horrible drive. At least the punt was great.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:18 PM

Hey, what do you know, another Roughing the Passer uncalled. Everyone knows that if that was Brady it would have been 15. AGAIN.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:18 PM

What a horrible drive. At least the punt was great.

How the FUCK did you get that off?

You ahead of me? The punt was still going on when you typed that for me.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:20 PM

LANCE BRIGGS INT!!! :lol :multi

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:21 PM

BRIGGS!

nice play.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:21 PM

Owned.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:21 PM

How the FUCK did you get that off?

You ahead of me? The punt was still going on when you typed that for me.
You watching in HD? I was but the HD feed was choppy as hell.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:22 PM

Epic fail Bears :( Lets get this field goal.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:22 PM

Ouch. Horrible. How did that happen????

At least we get a fg...

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:23 PM

Gould nails it to give us a 4 point lead. Lets just keep the Seahawks out of the end zone.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:23 PM

Inside of 50 yards......Robbie Gould is the 3rd most accurate kicker in NFL history.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Well, we got points out of it.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Ouch. Horrible. How did that happen????
Chris Williams is having an awful game.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Inside of 50 yards......Robbie Gould is the 3rd most accurate kicker in NFL history.
He's the 3rd most accurate kicker in NFL history period. Inside 50 he might be better.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:29 PM

This is ridiculous. How is he so open???? Where is the fuckin' defense?

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:30 PM

Our secondary are a bunch of fucking cunts.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:30 PM

Thank god for that false start. If the Bears won't stop the Seahawks, maybe they will.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:31 PM

Jesus christ a fucking jump ball!? SERIOUSLY!?!?!? THEY GET A 1ST ON THAT PLAY!?

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:32 PM

Lllololo.llolloll

UCFish

09-27-2009, 06:32 PM

why does Seattle have 300 yards with a backup QB?

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:32 PM

They have just GOT to make changes to this passing defense. They have to. It's just horrifyingly bad.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:33 PM

God damn it. I'm pissed at our D outside of the D Line and Briggs.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:34 PM

They have just GOT to make changes to this passing defense. They have to. It's just horrifyingly bad.
Who are they going to put in? Vasher? Part of the problem is Seneca is so damn fast we keep trying to pressure him and he gets away from it. I'd rather them just double up on some of these guys and force him to try and pick you apart. We can't let them get a TD here.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:35 PM

3rd and 10. This is usually where we give up the big play.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:35 PM

Holy crap we stopped them. Lets hope this kicker's struggles continue.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:36 PM

Damnit he makes a 39 yarder.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 06:36 PM

Lets score another TD now.

Can't count on the D.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:41 PM

Ok this is ridiculous. Is Forte hurt? I don't know if I like running with Wolfe.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:42 PM

Ok fuck you Ron Turner. This is insane.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:43 PM

Wow. Can we please fire Ron Turner? On 3rd and short we go OUTSIDE with WOLFE?????? 3 straight running plays. When you have Jay Cutler.

Over-reliance on the run has killed us today.

UCFish

09-27-2009, 06:43 PM

Worst playcalling ever?

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:46 PM

Thank god we played D on that play. 8 yard loss for the Seahawks.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:50 PM

See Forte can get a yard. Not fucking Wolfe.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:53 PM

God damnit turnovers will cost us this game.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:54 PM

Bears lose.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:55 PM

Good Lord. Horrible offensive play-calling and Jay Cutler is not having a good day.

Why does Ron Turner refuse to take any fucking chances? It is just enraging watching them try dump-off passes all day, becuase it doesn't help the run game at all.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 06:57 PM

Why couldn't they just intercept that....

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 06:57 PM

And we trail god damnit. Ok this is why we got Cutler. O-line I swear to God you better protect him.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 06:57 PM

Goddamnit. Goddamnit. At least this will force Ron Turner to be more aggressive.

The offense is a fucking joke today and I lay the blame squarely on Turner.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 06:59 PM

Dang it Bobby.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:00 PM

Thank god Forte is getting some yards. It will set up the play action down the field.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 07:01 PM

Christ it took us 55 minutes to establish a running game.....

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 07:02 PM

I don't see this ending well. Ron is going to become too in love with the run.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 07:03 PM

Not sure I'm in favor of the ulta-conservatism ATM.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:04 PM

Not sure I'm in favor of the ulta-conservatism ATM.
It only works if we can pick up a 1st down now and run out the clock. Otherwise we screw ourselves if we don't make a long field goal, and have no time to get the ball back.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:05 PM

CUTLER TO HESTER!!!! :multi :multi :multi

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:05 PM

Eat a dick Seattle.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 07:05 PM

Scored too early. Defense can't stop the pass.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:06 PM

Hopefully we convert this.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:06 PM

Two point conversion as well.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 07:07 PM

Cutler overcame a few mistakes but again leads us on a great drive.

Devin Hester made a great play there punctuated by a terrible TD celebration, :lol

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 07:07 PM

This is why we got Cutler. Our offense finally looks competant, no thanks to Ron Turner.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:07 PM

2 POINT CONVERSION! Love that call. It makes it so a field goal and on onside followed by another field goal ties it, or if they get a TD it makes the extra point matter.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:09 PM

Let's please get a turnover RIGHT AWAY.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:10 PM

I hate you Julius Jones.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:10 PM

Lmfao @ our tackling again.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 07:11 PM

Gosh dang it.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 07:12 PM

Defense is pathetic.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:14 PM

Okay, wow wtf.

A.) They didn't start the clock when they were supposed to. Cheating hometown.
B.) Flag much?
C.) Timout? Wtf, we had them stopped. Damnit.

Bron Yr Aur

09-27-2009, 07:14 PM

Setting up for a devastating loss.....a la ATL '08

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:15 PM

Here comes a loss.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 07:16 PM

Gosh darn it. Why did Wallace decide to have the game of his life tonight?

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:18 PM

BEARS TAKE OVER ON DOWNS!!!!! :multi :multi :multi

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:19 PM

Bears win! Bears Win! :multi

Everyone that had doubts should be embarrassed.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:19 PM

Cutler leads a game winning drive, and the bends but doesn't break.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:20 PM

We'd be 0-3 without Cutler. I love having a QB.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 07:21 PM

Bears Win. Whoooooo!

UCFish

09-27-2009, 07:25 PM

Thank god!

Bears Win.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 07:26 PM

Should have been easier, but at least it was.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 07:48 PM

I just turned on NBC. Have they gone over Bears highlight yet? I want to hear Dungy eat more crow about Cutler.

Tiduwho

09-27-2009, 07:57 PM

I just turned on NBC. Have they gone over Bears highlight yet? I want to hear Dungy eat more crow about Cutler.

He just kept saying that Lovie is going to focus on the running game and he isn't happy with the team right now.

He did say "Cutler won the game at the end, and that's why they got him. But Lovie wants the running game.....etc etc."

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 08:03 PM

He just kept saying that Lovie is going to focus on the running game and he isn't happy with the team right now.

He did say "Cutler won the game at the end, and that's why they got him. But Lovie wants the running game.....etc etc."
How about Lovie likes to win. The Bears didn't run all over the Seahawks, but they ran it enough. I don't care if we run or pass just win the game.

BotheDMBFan

09-27-2009, 08:12 PM

Yup.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 08:16 PM

Cutler's Gamelog Thru 3 Games
Week 1: 17/36 (47.2%) 277 yards (7.7 YPA) 1 TD and 4 INT (43.2 QB Rating)
Week 2: 27/38 (71.1%) 236 yards (6.2 YPA) 2 TD and 0 INT (104.7 QB Rating)
Week 3: 21/27 (77.8%) 247 yards (9.1 YPA) 3 TD and 1 INT (126.4 QB Rating)

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 08:45 PM

The Bears scored 25 of the game's final 31 points to come back from a 13-0 deficit and win in Seattle for the first time since 1976.

We haven't won their since 1976? Then again they used to be in the AFC. I do like that we've trailed in the 2nd half each of the first three games, and Cutler has given the the Bears a lead late in the game. Too bad the defense couldn't hold the lead in GB, but I do like that we've been in every game.

DMBZeppelin

09-27-2009, 08:51 PM

ZachZaidman (http://twitter.com/ZachZaidman) Nearly half of Cutler's 19 wins have come via game winning drives in last 2 mins or overtime
13 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/4430166113) from mobile web

BEAR DOWN!

UCFish

09-28-2009, 01:39 AM

Did not know TJ housasdfjadf was talking shit this week.

Good he got put in his place. Nice fumble jackass. Just shut your mouth.

The only NFL player who I enjoy watch run his mouth is Ochocinco!

DMBZeppelin

09-28-2009, 05:34 AM

Jay Cutler is currently on pace for 4,053 yards and 32 TD's.

DMBZeppelin

09-28-2009, 05:55 AM

This is a couple days old, but interesting to me anyways.

How random is it that Knox leads the Bears in receiving yards? I’ll let Angelo explain to you how the Bears settled on him as a draft pick:

“We didn’t really get interested in Johnny until late in the process. We went down to the Texas-versus-the-Nation all-star game in El Paso, and we noticed him down there. From my perspective, that’s really where he jumped out at us. He got himself invited to the [scouting] combine in part because of his good performance at that all-star game -- during the week of practice and in the game itself. When he got to the combine, he ran one of the fastest times. That’s a pretty good feat given all the talented players who are there.

“We were in the fifth round of the draft and [coach Lovie Smith] looked at the board along with the scouts and said, ‘How about this Johnny Knox?’ He said, ‘We really don’t have anybody like him.’ We all talked together and we thought given the other players that we were considering that he had the traits we look for at the position. He was probably a little bit more unknown given his level of competition, but we knew that with Jay [Cutler] being on board, he could be another potential weapon, so we went ahead with it.”