Da Bears

[UCFish]

Thank god Stafford has missed some of these open guys

[skwormin]

doesn't make me feel good saying the only reason we aren't losing by more is because the other team isn't executing

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

So: Chris Harris = Joke. Hester = joke of a receiver. Entire O-Line = absolute joke. Roy Williams = washed up joke. Davis = Joke, so glad we got rid of Olsen..., Garza = half as good as Kruetz. Sanzenbacher(sp) = too short to ever be a good receiver.

Our entire passing and block team on offensive is a absolute joke.

[sean52692]

Unbelievable.

[Bron Yr Aur]

What a fucking joke of a call.

Hester redeemed himself on that. Hell of a catch.

[sean52692]

And now Hester has hands.

[UCFish]

Hester goes up and grabs one.....shocked

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

How the helll does hester make that catch and not that easy TD?

[sean52692]

Our offensive line should not be considered professional athletes.

[skwormin]

Stop fucking flase starting

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Forte is so explosive in open field. Love it.

[DMBZeppelin]

Stop fucking flase starting
That one on Webb when Vanden Bosch came across was BS.

[thechad90000]

That one on Webb when Vanden Bosch came across was BS.

They showed the replay. He jumped way after Vanden Bosch got out of the neutral zone.

[sean52692]

Very nice Jay!

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Cutler!!!!

[skwormin]

We can haz touchdowns!?!?

[UCFish]

FUCK YESl!!

[Bron Yr Aur]

Great drive. Try not to give up a TD before halftime.

[skwormin]

if we can get a stop.. and get ball back first 2nd half.
then I feel good.

[UCFish]

Great drive. Try not to give up a TD before halftime.

this times 100

[DMBZeppelin]

That was a fun drive. Jay did all the things Martz hates for you to do. It's hard to remember how great Jay can be outside the pocket since he rarely has time to get there.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Hey another kickoff deep out of the end zone. So glad they changed that rule, makes things so much more exciting :rolleyes

[skwormin]

lol Gould just kicks it out every time.

such a fucking stupid new rule!!

[skwormin]

nice pick. too bad we don't have any fucking TIMEOUTS!!

[DMBZeppelin]

Seriously Meriweather WTF? Briggs is the one they call it on. There goes a chance at a quick play.

[sean52692]

Such a weird half of football.

[skwormin]

even though the score says we are winning, I feel like we are losing.

[bonzo48280]

Being a Bears fan is like being in a bad relationship that you can't get out of

[UCFish]

even though the score says we are winning, I feel like we are losing.

Truer wprds have never been spoken

[UCFish]

Berman thinks the score is 7-3....WhT?

[DMBZeppelin]

Being a Bears fan is like being in a bad relationship that you can't get out of
I watch a LOT of games around the league. Only the Bears look this bad on offense. Part of that is because we give Cutler no control of the offense. He's not allowed to audible. We're the only offense in football who doesn't want a receiving tight end. I mean guys like Brady, Rodgers, and Brees all heavily use them... why should we? I just hate how we waste what potential we have.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I watch a LOT of games around the league. Only the Bears look this bad on offense. Part of that is because we give Cutler no control of the offense. He's not allowed to audible. We're the only offense in football who doesn't want a receiving tight end. I mean guys like Brady, Rodgers, and Brees all heavily use them... why should we? I just hate how we waste what potential we have.

This. This. This. This.

[Bron Yr Aur]

I watch a LOT of games around the league. Only the Bears look this bad on offense. Part of that is because we give Cutler no control of the offense. He's not allowed to audible. We're the only offense in football who doesn't want a receiving tight end. I mean guys like Brady, Rodgers, and Brees all heavily use them... why should we? I just hate how we waste what potential we have.

Hey, we traded Greg Olsen for a 3rd rder, but look at what Roy Williams is giving us :rolleyes

Take an awful o-line and mix it with random receivers, and you get the Bears offense.

Wow, what the fuck is Hester doing!!

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Greg Olsen accounted for a lot of our offense since we've had him. We really need that over the middle pass to beat all these successful pass rushes every team is hitting us with.

[DMBZeppelin]

If they don't know the status of Peppers' knee.... DON'T LET HIM PLAY! Might need him for more than this game.

[Bron Yr Aur]

What a horrible call. Didn't even hit him with the helmet. Dreadful call. 15 yards for that??

Fuck.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Terrible call....

[sean52692]

They just walked in on that one.

Bad call on Urlacher.

[UCFish]

BS penalty caused that...however need to get them off the field on 3rd and long

[cruscott35]

Being a Bears fan is like being in a bad relationship that you can't get out of

As a Lions fan I always LOL when people say shit like this. You were in the NFC Championship game last year. STFU. Endure 20 years of losing and then talk to me.

[sean52692]

Good god, Hester.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Devin Hester, what the fuck are you thinking this half? Good fucking God. Let it go. At worst you're at the 20, at best it goes out of bounds and you start at the 40.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Isn't it funny how cruscott returns as soon as the Lions take the lead?

[cruscott35]

Isn't it funny how cruscott returns as soon as the Lions take the lead?

Pure coincidence.

Why teams don't run more against us is beyond me. We can't stop it.

[skwormin]

cutler = new rapelessburger?

[UCFish]

Our o-Line is SO BAD

[UCFish]

Cutler is looking amazing despite the terribleness surrounding him

[DMBZeppelin]

I love how people 2nd year in still don't know where to go in this offense.

[DMBZeppelin]

Forte you HAVE to catch that. Just wow.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Wow, that is so frustrating. Perfect pass.

[skwormin]

how the FUCK do you drop that?

[UCFish]

Not sure if that ball could have been thrown any better

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

This is infuriating to watch. We can't pass. At. All.

Where the fuck is Roy 'Jesus Christ' Williams to save us?

[DMBZeppelin]

I sometimes wonder what we'd say about Cutler if he had protection and good receivers. I'm sure he'd still make the gunslinger interception where he tried to put a ball where it just couldn't go. Seriously he can make every throw, extend plays with his feet... just seriously how are we in year 3 and don't have ANYTHING to give Cutler.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Defense is lookin real bad this year.

[skwormin]

Are u fucking serious

[cruscott35]

Maybe you should worry about the run.

[UCFish]

well that was awful

[skwormin]

the amount of babies I want to murder right now is unbelievable

[UCFish]

Maybe you should worry about the run.

i think you are a troll but this post did bring

:lol:lol:lol

[bonzo48280]

Maybe you should worry about the run.

maybe you should worry about baseball

[sean52692]

Good god

[UCFish]

maybe you should worry about baseball

:lol:lol:lol

[cruscott35]

maybe you should worry about baseball

Why? I've got a top 5 football team to root for... First time in 20 years.

[UCFish]

Why? I've got a top 5 football team to root for... First time in 20 years.

I thought they were top 2?

[bonzo48280]

Why? I've got a top 5 football team to root for... First time in 20 years.

and your "greatest team ever" Tigers are down 0-2

[cruscott35]

I thought they were top 2?

Case could be made. They are unarguably top 5.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Fuck this team.

[cruscott35]

and your "greatest team ever" Tigers are down 0-2

Link please? I called the loss in the 8th inning tonight, our manager is an idiot. Keep grasping at straws, I'm having a good night.

[bonzo48280]

Bears ball

[bonzo48280]

Bears ball

idiot....

[skwormin]

Case could be made. They are unarguably top 5.

nope. nope

[UCFish]

Link please? I called the loss in the 8th inning tonight, our manager is an idiot. Keep grasping at straws, I'm having a good night.

go to the lions thread....please no one cares about your opinions

[cruscott35]

go to the lions thread....please no one cares about your opinions

Don't take your frustrations out on me.

[bonzo48280]

the lions thread that was started under a month ago.....

[Bron Yr Aur]

Our defense is bad this year.

Our offensive line is terrible. Our receivers can't catch the football. This team is just not good.

[cruscott35]

nope. nope

Who's your top 5? Just know, whoever they are, most people who watch the NFL would disagree with you if it doesn't include the Lions.

[skwormin]

the lions thread that was started under a month ago.....

wouldn't be surprised if thats the same time he became a lions fan

[cruscott35]

wouldn't be surprised if thats the same time he became a lions fan

LOL, yup, you got me.

[crashintonickdm]

How many times does cutler get sacked in the 4th? I'll say 5-7 times

[DMBZeppelin]

I just hope if we lose tonight we fire Mike Martz. The season is over at that point. The only thing we need to worry about at that point is making sure Cutler lives.

[DMBZeppelin]

A friend just posted this on my wall "So the Bears more than double their time of possession... but the Lions more than double our score."

I didn't realize that, but it's just sad.

[bonzo48280]

Fire everyone.

The Lions are easily top 5, that doesn't mean cruscott isn't a troll, though

[skwormin]

How many times does cutler get sacked in the 4th? I'll say 5-7 times
ill go with 2

[rustysurf83]

The Bears really suck balls, but the Lions wont do shit either. One and done.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Terrible call. Terrible.

[bonzo48280]

I wish the Bears would put Toews out there. They would win.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Untouched. Just unbelievable. Omiyale is just horrible.

[UCFish]

Fuck this fucking team....GOD DAMN JOKE

[Absolute34]

No line whatsoever. It is sad to watch.

[rustysurf83]

Martz and Angelo are destroying Cutlers career.

[Bron Yr Aur]

So glad we improved our offensive line in the offseason!

[skwormin]

i can't believe I'm still watching this game

[lockman21]

Good thing we used all that extra cap room we had this year.

Oh wait...

[MtSkier]

Poor Jay.

[DMBZeppelin]

CowherCBS (http://twitter.com/#%21/CowherCBS) Bill Cowher
It must be frustrating to watch Bear fans. Why doesn't Off Coord Mike Marta keep backs/ te's in to chip the ends? Did u see GB last night!
47 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/CowherCBS/status/123596920630415361)

[bonzo48280]

I hate this

[lockman21]

Mike Martz refuses to believe this game progresses and changes. He's stuck in 12 years ago.

[bonzo48280]

Hester needs to stop being a pussy and just run

[Absolute34]

CowherCBS (http://twitter.com/#%21/CowherCBS) Bill Cowher
It must be frustrating to watch Bear fans. Why doesn't Off Coord Mike Marta keep backs/ te's in to chip the ends? Did u see GB last night!
47 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/CowherCBS/status/123596920630415361)

That thought crossed my mind

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I can't tell you guys how much shit talkin I've heard about Cutler over the past two years. None of his sucking is his fault. I try to explain it to people and they just think he's a terrible pussy QB.

[UCFish]

Canada is that close to Detroit?

[crashintonickdm]

theres 2 sacks

[lockman21]

God this is pathetic.

[cruscott35]

Canada is that close to Detroit?

Right across the river.

[UCFish]

Frank Omiyale can't be more worthless

Is there really no guy sitting out there that is not better?

[Bron Yr Aur]

Why does it take them this long to get Omiyale's sorry ass out of the game?

[UCFish]

Right across the river.

interesting....clearly my geography is awful

[bonzo48280]

Jay Cutler is the fucking man and anybody that doesn't think that is an idiot.

[cruscott35]

interesting....clearly my geography is awful

One of the few places, if not the only, where you go south to get to Canada.

[lockman21]

Thank God for the Indian Head.

[crashintonickdm]

bears recieving core is horrendous

[RiotAct]

interesting....clearly my geography is awful

Windsor : Detroit as Fort Erie : Buffalo

[UCFish]

Cutler is amazing....FUCK everyone but Forte

[lockman21]

Cutler is awesome. Everyone else sucks.

[cruscott35]

To be fair, our secondary is shit.

[rustysurf83]

Jesus fucking chip somebody

[UCFish]

Thank God for the Indian Head.

Yep.....thats about all I got right now

[ShotgunDMB]

Worst offensive line I've ever seen.

[skwormin]

trying to set the record for most false starts?

[UCFish]

trying to set the record for most false starts?

do we not already have it?????

[lockman21]

Let's go Hawks!

[DMBZeppelin]

Worst offensive line I've ever seen.
2010 Bears say "Call me"

[UCFish]

Gould is amazing

[lockman21]

Oops, wrong thread.

[MtSkier]

Cutler is beasting through this. I'm just waiting for the day he says screw it and just walks off the field hahahah. Idk how he takes the hits he does every game and keeps going.


Seriously? So they go for it in the 1st quarter when they don't have to, and now instead of going for it when they are 2 TD's down, they take the FG. Idiots.

[skwormin]

1 possession game!! That's basically a win right?

[UCFish]

2010 Bears say "Call me"

I am not sure.....last year I feel he held on too long....This year that is not an option

[ShotgunDMB]

2010 Bears say "Call me"

:lol I can't imagine how any of those bums block Peppers in practice.

[UCFish]

Cutler is beasting through this. I'm just waiting for the day he says screw it and just walks off the field hahahah. Idk how he takes the hits he does every game and keeps going.


Seriously? So they go for it in the 1st quarter when they don't have to, and now instead of going for it when they are 2 TD's down, they take the FG. Idiots.

LOL...u understand math?

[DMBZeppelin]

Cutler is beasting through this. I'm just waiting for the day he says screw it and just walks off the field hahahah. Idk how he takes the hits he does every game and keeps going.
If I was him I'd have retired by now.

Seriously? So they go for it in the 1st quarter when they don't have to, and now instead of going for it when they are 2 TD's down, they take the FG. Idiots.
If only there was a way to score 8 points...

[skwormin]

LOL...u understand math?

:lol:lol:lol

[lockman21]

:lol I can't imagine how any of those bums block Peppers in practice.

Peppers isn't allowed to practice.

Or he has to wear bricks tied to his shoes.

[skwormin]

oh look, another touchback

BAaaaZINGA!

[cruscott35]

Pay attention to run.

[Tiduwho]

Merriweather is a joke.

[rustysurf83]

How poorly coached can a team be?

[skwormin]

welp, that's game eh?

[sean52692]

And there goes Best again. Fuck this team

[skwormin]

yeah seriously though, merriwether fucking sucks

[DMBZeppelin]

Well thank you defense for giving us a chance.

[DMBZeppelin]

yeah seriously though, merriwether fucking sucks
It looked to me like Harris went to the wrong gap. Meriweather does suck though.

[UCFish]

BLOLOLOLOLOL

Best has best rushing game over

[MtSkier]

If I was him I'd have retired by now.


If only there was a way to score 8 points...

Fair enough, I'm so pissed I'm not thinking straight hahaha. But knowing the Bears red zone performance 2pt conversion will never happen.

[DMBZeppelin]

:lol Bears you suck!

[Bron Yr Aur]

Our defense is just horrible this year.

[lockman21]

Why are you guys still watching?

[sean52692]

Fair enough, I'm so pissed I'm not thinking straight hahaha. But knowing the Bears red zone performance 2pt conversion will never happen.

:thumbsup

[sean52692]

Why are you guys still watching?

Not watching.

[DMBZeppelin]

Oh and if Bears held the Lions to a field goal I likely win my fantasy game. Instead the Lions have a chance to throw to Calvin Johnson (who I'm playing against) and I have a 6 point lead. Bears giving me more reason to hate them.

[skwormin]

and I stayed up to almost 5 am for this fucking bullshit?

[DMBZeppelin]

Barring a Cutiracle this game is over.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Hey remember when we passed up that FG early in the game? Sure would be nice to have those 3 points right now.

[skwormin]

night night. what a fucking waste of my time

[UCFish]

Hey remember when we passed up that FG early in the game? Sure would be nice to have those 3 points right now.

Evidence again of why Lovie is the worst

Honestly I hate this team sometimes....

D is old and looking awful...O-Line is terrible

WR...HA

Where do we go from herE?

[Bron Yr Aur]

Why is Jay still in there. Goddamn.

[UCFish]

how many times will the O-Line embarrass themselves in the last 2 min

[DMBZeppelin]

That was a dangerous take down. You don't want a QB going down backwards with his legs under someone else.

[DMBZeppelin]

Why is Jay still in there. Goddamn.
You can't pull starters in a 2 score game.

[DMBZeppelin]

How was that not offsides on the defense?

[DMBZeppelin]

Receivers HAVE TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE HOT! I hate watching this.

[bonzo48280]

so we need an o-line? I guess we can start the 2012 talk?

[UCFish]

Well that was rough.....Lets be honest now....If we have any postseason chance we need to move starting now....

Season not over yet 2-3 not terrible but need a lot better

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

It's so funny that the Bears finally acquire a QB and cannot protect him. Even the defense we thought was good is terrible. What the fuck happened to this team?

We looked like a different team against Atlanta the first game of the season defensively and offensively.

[rustysurf83]

Lovie with the most idiotic excuse of a press conference I've ever seen.

[UCFish]

Lovie with the most idiotic excuse of a press conference I've ever seen.

did not see it but I am sure he brought out his inner retard.

[DMBZeppelin]

GenoEspn (http://twitter.com/#%21/GenoEspn) Gene Wojciechowski
Anyone who doubts Cutler's toughness needs to do what he did vs. Lions: stand in middle of freeway during rush hour + live to tell about it.
5 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/GenoEspn/status/123618061826801665)

[DMBZeppelin]

False Starts This Season
17 - Bears
12 - Seahawks
10 - Packers
10 - 49ers

[Bron Yr Aur]

Lovie is obviously not the best coach ever, but he doesn't make too many egregious mistakes. Not kicking a field goal early was stupid but had we gotten the first down it could have given us the momentum early. And the fact is, it's not Lovie's fault that Angelo doesn't go out and sign some offensive linemen.

[DMBZeppelin]

Lovie is obviously not the best coach ever, but he doesn't make too many egregious mistakes. Not kicking a field goal early was stupid but had we gotten the first down it could have given us the momentum early. And the fact is, it's not Lovie's fault that Angelo doesn't go out and sign some offensive linemen.
Lovie also runs the system you want in the modern day NFL. You want a system that only has you rush 4 linemen. Blitzing is a hard thing to pull off in this day and age. QB's will just pick you apart. We just need the players to run this system.

The only man responsible for Cutler going 3+ seasons without protection is Angelo. This is the same man who told us: No team did more to improve their offensive line than the Chicago Bears this off-season. Defense is old? Well who's responsible for getting youth. What team besides the Bears redshirts picks in the top 3 rounds? The defensive tackle you took in the 2nd round should be starting right now. If he's not good enough to be active then that's a terrible pick.

[gocubsgo3822]

Couple thoughts from the game:

1. I love cutler. I mean i love him. He is an awesome quarterback. In 3 years he hasnt had a legit #1 or #2 receiver or a legit offensive line. He keeps so many plays alive with his pocket awareness and he can make a lot of throws. Sure he makes some bad throws sometimes but a lot of them wouldnt have to be made if the offensive line didnt give him 2 seconds or he had a wide receiver.

2. Pay Forte. He is singlehandedly keeping this team in a lot of games.

3. I have never seen a wide receiving core that sucks this much ass. They are fucking terrible. Devin drops a touchdown, Knox is invisible, Roy Williams should be arrested for robbery, Sam Hurd is sam fucking Hurd, Sanzenbacher is not ready half the time. These guys fucking suck ass.

4. Brandon Merriwether should be cut. He is fucking garbage. Chris Harris tonight garbage.

5. Everyone not named Julius Peppers on the d line WHy dont you get some pressure? Good idea.

6. Lovie Smith garbage. Kick the field goal, If you do want to go for it maybe DONT FUCKING RUN IT RIGHT AT FUCKING SUH, DONT then CHALLENGE a ball spot when there is 0% chance it gets overturned. This guy is a fucking joke with challenges. He wants to challenge that and not challenge the touchdown vs. Washington last year.

7. Devin Hester i will give you a pass but you did not have your best night returning kicks or punts tonight. It happens

8. Offensive line just turn in your keycards. Frank Omiyale should be released tomorrow. Jamarcus is a fucking joke. Seriously there is this thing called a snap count. FIGURE IT THE FUCK OUT. its really fucking hard to advance the ball when they can send 4 and only 4 pretty much all day and still just make Cutler have no time.

9. Defense looked old as shit (They not only bent but they fucking broke) I cant remember two plays of that long in any game in a long fucking time if ever.

10. All around shitty day. If i was jay cutler and Matt Forte i would be pissed they played their asses off while everyone else was fucking garbage.

Shitty fucking game. Based on the schedule i am seeing 8-8 but with a chance to potentially go 10-6 if carimi comes back and earl plays well when/if he comes back.

But that could be a disaster cause this team needs some talent in the trenches on both sides and someone who can catch a fucking pass. Just fucking pathetic.

Fire Angelo too

[DMBZeppelin]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d822dc80a/Sound-FX-Jay-Cutler?module=HP11_cp

Didn't see this until now, but Cutler was mic'd up last week. I hope was today as well. I always enjoy his pre-game dry humor with Hanie.

[bonzo48280]

rapidly becoming one of my favorite players

[skwormin]

after last night I just feel utterly sick.

how did we go from 1 game away from Super Bowl to absolutely shit?

[cruscott35]

after last night I just feel utterly sick.

how did we go from 1 game away from Super Bowl to absolutely shit?

Happens when teams play the Lions. Keep your head high, Bears fans.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Firesale. Fire everyone you can. Cut and release anyone you can. Tell Martz, if he doesnt throw over the Blitz... Just threaten to kill Martz. There was one play yesterday where Cutler snapped the ball and immediately threw over the blitz to Davis. If we utilized more plays like this, the pass rush wouldn't be nearly as effective against us.

If the snap count issue is not fixed by next week, line them up against a firing squad and tell them if they can block the bullets they can keep their jobs.

[trippinchad]

I feel bad for Jay. I take back what I said about him needing to stop bitching. After watching that game last night that line is horrendous..i've never seen anything like it.

[41ravens]

i actually have a newfound respect for cutler, as well. not just after last night, it's slowly been kind of building this year. sure, i like to rag on him every once in a while, just cause i've never really liked the bears. but that guy seriously has dogshit surrounding him. if i was the qb for the bears, i'd have the same fucking look on my face on the sidelines.

[cazzie34]

after last night I just feel utterly sick.

how did we go from 1 game away from Super Bowl to absolutely shit?

Umm, because you guys got ridiculously lucky last year. All the numbers said you shouldn't be a playoff team.

The statistics gods are making everything right in the universe.

[GUnit]

Umm, because you guys got ridiculously lucky last year. All the numbers said you shouldn't be a playoff team.

The statistics gods are making everything right in the universe.

Lucky team that was in the nfc title game. So dumb when ppl say it is luck. There isn't any team that wins over 10 games that doesn't have luck on their side. Look at detroit... they should have 2 losses but instead, 5-0 and a national story. Dallas and minnesota had them beat, and somehow they won both. Lucky as shit. But that's not part of the story now, just 5-0 and are they for real blah blah. Ill tell you what, I saw them live last night and they aren't.

[DMBZeppelin]

Hub Arkush had a good idea for the o-line. Williams sucked at left tackle and guard, but was ok at right tackle. He said Carimi would probably play great at guard. Garza is best at guard. So you have Spencer or Edwin Williams at center. I'd personally go with:

LT - J'Marcus Webb
LG - Gabe Carimi
C - Chris Spencer
RG - Roberto Garza
RT - Chris Williams

It's not great but at least you won't see Lance Louis or Omiyale. Carimi could probably come back sooner if he didn't need his full range of motion like he would at tackle.

[GUnit]

Hub Arkush had a good idea for the o-line. Williams sucked at left tackle and guard, but was ok at right tackle. He said Carimi would probably play great at guard. Garza is best at guard. So you have Spencer or Edwin Williams at center. I'd personally go with:

LT - J'Marcus Webb
LG - Gabe Carimi
C - Chris Spencer
RG - Roberto Garza
RT - Chris Williams

It's not great but at least you won't see Lance Louis or Omiyale. Carimi could probably come back sooner if he didn't need his full range of motion like he would at tackle.

I like what ur throwin out here. Some combo has to work eventually. Sometimes they look ok, idk why we can't get a consistent effort.

[bonzo48280]

Tice and Martz will stay stubborn and change nothing.

[Tiduwho]

Season pretty much over amirite?

[skwormin]

Lucky team that was in the nfc title game. So dumb when ppl say it is luck. There isn't any team that wins over 10 games that doesn't have luck on their side. Look at detroit... they should have 2 losses but instead, 5-0 and a national story. Dallas and minnesota had them beat, and somehow they won both. Lucky as shit. But that's not part of the story now, just 5-0 and are they for real blah blah. Ill tell you what, I saw them live last night and they aren't.
QFT
Season pretty much over amirite?

We were 4-3 at the BYE last year.

We can be in the same position again if we beat Minnesota and Tampa Bay

[DMBZeppelin]

Bears best offer to Matt Forte was about $6 million a year (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/10/bears_best_offer_to_matt_forte.html)

Just before the regular season, the Bears best offer to running back Matt Forte was believed to be worth about $6 million per year, with $13 to $14 million guaranteed.

On Monday, before kickoff of the Lions-Bears, general manager Jerry Angelo made clear that Forte was the team's top priority.

"We anticipated Matt having a great season like he's having. It isn't new. That's why we did what we did," Angelo said. "I don't want that message to get lost, that we were trying to do something before we felt Matt was going to be good."

But there's a difference between good and great.

That's the fundamental issue between the two sides. It's unclear how much Forte wanted, but Angelo noted in several instances during the preseason that Forte was not an unrestricted free agent.

In the NFL, a deal that averages about $6 million a season gets a running back closer to good than great. Consider that Steven Jackson and DeAngelo Williams get an average of $8.6 million on their latest deals, while Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson average over $13 and $14 million, respectively.

So is Peterson worth more than twice what Forte is?

But here's another way to look at why Forte balked at the Bears offer, even though he's making $600,000 this season. San Francisco 49ers running back Frank Gore got a deal that averaged $7 million a year -- back in March 2007.

Gore is a two-time Pro Bowl selection, but he's played all 16 games just once in his six previous NFL seasons and has not been as statistically productive as Forte, which has been documented. Before the start of this regular season, Gore signed another three-year extension that averages $7 million and includes $13.5 million in guarantees.

Even Forte's backup, Marion Barber, landed a contract that averaged $6.5 from the Dallas Cowboys in 2008, when the club projected he'd be a featured back. Barber, though, six

Through five games this season, Forte is now first in total yards from scrimmage with 785, and he's also sixth in rushing yards (440) and seventh in total catches (30).

According to ESPN, he's accounted for a league-high 51.5 percent of his team's total offensive yardage. The next closest player? Jacksonville's Maurice Jones-Drew, at 40.1 percent.

The last NFL running back to finish a season with more than 50 percent of his team's total yardage was O.J. Simpson in 1973.

Asked if he can carry his offense, Forte said, "I've always been prepared to carry the load.

"As a running back, you have to run, catch and block. And whatever they call on me to do, I'm prepare to do. And I've been doing that my entire career. It's not going to change now."

Until he's no longer a Bear, which looks the way things are headed.

Angelo said there's nothing new toward a deal, and Forte's agent Adisa Bakari told the Sun-Times last week that the process dragging on and on will only complicate matters.

"We've stated, from the very beginning, the longer we wait, the more difficult and complicated it becomes."

The Bears, of course, could franchise him at a projected cost of about $8 million for the 2012. But, if Forte continues to play well, they may be best served trading him to another club that will work out a contract with him.

If that happens, though, Angelo would be letting go of arguably his best draft pick - in terms of value and production - during his tenure as Bears general manager. Then, he'd have to find another productive running back.

[DMBZeppelin]

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7092989/chicago-bears-jay-cutler-playbook-change-ease-pressure?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Chicago Bears (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/chi/chicago-bears) quarterback Jay Cutler (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9597/jay-cutler) expressed belief in the system of offensive coordinator Mike Martz, but he said he wouldn't mind seeing tweaks made to alleviate the beating he's taken.

Cutler revealed the team's protection issues are taking a toll, psychologically, adding he's jokingly asked Martz to make changes to the offense, with more plays designed to get rid of the ball faster.

"I said I'm hoping ... I'd like to see that happen," Cutler said. "At a certain point you're gonna have to evaluate what you can do in the passing game and what you can't do. That's not up to me, though. I don't really want to be under pressure a lot. Physically, [the pressure is] not that big of a deal. Mentally, it just speeds up my clock. It just makes me uneasy in the pocket. Psychologically and mentally [it's more an issue] than anything [else]. I just don't want to take a sack, just [want to] try to get rid of the ball as fast as possible."

[Bron Yr Aur]

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7092989/chicago-bears-jay-cutler-playbook-change-ease-pressure?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Chicago Bears (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/chi/chicago-bears) quarterback Jay Cutler (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9597/jay-cutler) expressed belief in the system of offensive coordinator Mike Martz, but he said he wouldn't mind seeing tweaks made to alleviate the beating he's taken.

Cutler revealed the team's protection issues are taking a toll, psychologically, adding he's jokingly asked Martz to make changes to the offense, with more plays designed to get rid of the ball faster.

"I said I'm hoping ... I'd like to see that happen," Cutler said. "At a certain point you're gonna have to evaluate what you can do in the passing game and what you can't do. That's not up to me, though. I don't really want to be under pressure a lot. Physically, [the pressure is] not that big of a deal. Mentally, it just speeds up my clock. It just makes me uneasy in the pocket. Psychologically and mentally [it's more an issue] than anything [else]. I just don't want to take a sack, just [want to] try to get rid of the ball as fast as possible."

I feel bad for Cutler. The guy needs a legitimate offensive coordinator. It just makes no sense to me, why a team would go out and make the big splash to get Jay, but do nothing--literally nothing--positive to help out the offense. The receiving core and o-line is an embarrassment. It really is. Hester and Sanzenbacher actually made a couple of decent catches but we have nobody above a #3 receiver. And we got rid of one of Jay's favorite targets in the off-season for an aging WR who had one single great season.

[lockman21]

We were 4-3 at the BYE last year.

We can be in the same position again if we beat Minnesota and Tampa Bay

Yeah....the thing about that is....Detroit and GB weren't 5-0 at this point last year.

New year, comparing records like that doesn't matter at this point.

[DMBCubs25]

Bairce to lose out?

[Doors Allan Coe]

Well... Monday Night was fun...

The line looked...wow...how many flase starts did they have? Even Davis was like 3-4 of them.

Cutler looked good in a shitty situation. Better than usual.

I'm really hoping Chicago puts together sort of trade before the deadline. Obviously it's not often teams are trading quality players mid-season unless they are liabilities or the team stinks so bad they would rather have draft picks.

Anyone with 1 year left? Here is a list!



Wide Receivers:

Harry Douglas – ATL
Derrick Mason – BAL
Brandon Jones – BAL
Roscoe Parrish – BUF
Steve Johnson – BUF
Wallace Wright – CAR
Earl Bennett – CHI
Andre Caldwell – CIN
Jerome Simpson – CIN
Demetrius Williams – CLE
Kevin Ogletree – DAL (R)
Brandon Lloyd – DEN
Eddie Royal – DEN
Matt Willis – DEN (R)
Bryant Johnson – DET
Derrick Williams – DET (R)
David Anderson - HOU
Anthony Gonzalez – IND
Reggie Wayne – IND
Pierre Garcon – IND
Tiquan Underwood – JAC (R)
Jerheme Urban – KC
Dwayne Bowe - KC
Greg Camarillo – MIN
Juaquin Iglesias – MIN
Deion Branch - NE
Wes Welker – NE
Matt Slater – NE
Marques Colston - NO
Robert Meachem – NO
Devin Thomas – NYG
Mario Manningham - NYG
Patrick Turner – NYJ (R)
Chaz Schilens – OAK
DeSean Jackson – PHI
Limas Sweed – PIT
Mike Wallace – PIT (R)
Patrick Crayton – SD
Craig Davis – SD
Vincent Jackson – SD
Isaiah Stanback – SEA
Ted Ginn Jr – SF
Josh Morgan – SF
Dominique Zeigler – SF
Donnie Avery – STL
Justin Gage – TEN
Lavelle Hawkins – TEN
Malcolm Kelly – WAS
Roydell Williams – WAS



How about OL?



Offensive Tackles:

Levi Brown – ARI
Ben Grubbs – BAL
Demetrius Bell – BUF
Erik Pears – BUF
Geoff Schwartz – CAR (R)
Garry Williams – CAR (R)
Herman Johnson – CHI (R)
Kevin Shaffer – CHI
Andrew Gardner – CIN
Anthony Collins – CIN
Jeff Backus – DET
Tony Ugoh – DET
Mark Tauscher – GB
Ryan Diem – IND
Guy Whimper – JAC
Allen Barbre – MIA
Cullen Loeffler – MIN
Kareem McKenzie – NYG
King Dunlap – PHI
Ramon Foster – PIT (R)
Breno Giacomini – SEA
William Robinson – SEA (R)
Adam Snyder – SF
Alex Boone – SF (R)
Mike Williams – WAS

I'm not totally sure how up to date this is. But, it's seems fairly correct at first glance. Any pipe dream? I'm working on mine now...

[Doors Allan Coe]

Wow actuallty it looks really out of date...

[Doors Allan Coe]

Anyone know for sure if Vincent Jackson is still on the last year of his deal? I forgot. Was he franchised this year?

Send Knox and a 2nd for Vincent Jackson!

I mean at some point JA is going to have to invest in the WR position...

[rustysurf83]

Word on the street is that Merriweather and Harris both will be benched against the Vikings. Omiyale has likely gotten his last chance as well.

[DMBcubs3641]

All 3 looked equally pathetic on Monday.

[GUnit]

Yep new ss and fs Sunday night.

[Tiduwho]

Happy Chris Conte day everyone! Wooo! :multi

[myersk27]

Anyone know for sure if Vincent Jackson is still on the last year of his deal? I forgot. Was he franchised this year?

Send Knox and a 2nd for Vincent Jackson!

I mean at some point JA is going to have to invest in the WR position...

isn't their plan to re-sign Knox and Bennett? I think they are more worried about doing that than going out and getting a legit WR

[rustysurf83]

Bennett questionable for Sunday. Peppers, Carimi, and Toeaina out.

[rustysurf83]

Sorry, Peppers is officially doubtful...but he's not playing.

[DMBZeppelin]

Apparently Melton will start at DE and Okoye will start at DT.

[Tiduwho]

Apparently Melton will start at DE and Okoye will start at DT.

How does that make even a LICK of sense? Melton gained like 30 pounds to play inside.

If this is true, then FML.

[rustysurf83]

Jesus...hopefully the Hawks are good this season.

[DMBZeppelin]

How does that make even a LICK of sense? Melton gained like 30 pounds to play inside.

If this is true, then FML.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-shakeup-expected-on-defensive-line-20111014,0,4677143.story

Briggs is saying it so I believe it. I agree it doesn't make sense.

[GUnit]

Oh boy. Hope we don't lose to minnesota, that would be sad. I wonder if lovie will get fired this year. Can't say that I am entirely against that

[bonzo48280]

I love Lovie, but we need to fire everyone and start fresh. It doesn't help that the McCaskey's are some of the worst owners in sports

[Tiduwho]

Is it time to be depressed? Methinks so.

[GUnit]

Yeah, id say be depressed. We can't be consistent this yr. Really hope we beat min. Also, was at the det game Monday, and the fans were terrible this yr. I go every yr to that game with my cousin. Holy cow, you'd think they have already won the division and the super bowl. So much shit talking and being a-holes. Worst fan base I've ever been around ever by a mile. Can't wait to be ruthless to their fans @ soldier in november.

[ProudMonkey420]

....still suck

[bonzo48280]

yep, Detroit Sucks.

[ProudMonkey420]

yep, Detroit Sucks.

Packer Fan here, but...

GO DETROIT!!! Good for that city! Lions and Tigers! Rock on D Town!

[BotheDMBFan]

We should try to get Brandon Marshall. I don't care if he's crazy.

[DMBZeppelin]

We should try to get Brandon Marshall. I don't care if he's crazy.
Reggie Wayne would probably cost less and rumor has it he's available.

[BotheDMBFan]

Reggie Wayne would probably cost less and rumor has it he's available.

Or both. I really don't give a shit. I just want someone who can actually catch the damn ball.

Lineman would be nice too.

That said, we will of course get nothing except for a dead Jay. What have the radio stations been saying about Cutler lately?

[DMBZeppelin]

Or both. I really don't give a shit. I just want someone who can actually catch the damn ball.

Lineman would be nice too.

That said, we will of course get nothing except for a dead Jay. What have the radio stations been saying about Cutler lately?
Marshall wouldn't fit this system at all. He's a perfect receiver for Cutler, but then you'd have a weapon Cutler likes that Martz won't use *cough*Aromashadu*cough* so if you do the trade you HAVE to fire Martz. You let Tice or Day call plays. Except you add in rollouts, boot legs, and 3 step drops. Cutler has been saying this week he wants quick passes. Martz responded to the media he agrees. I'll believe it when I see it.

Cutler put a ton of work into this offseason. He had his footwork down to perfection. Martz was able to destory it in 2 games. 16 sacks will have that affect though. The stations have been saying how do we save Cutler? People seem to be getting it that it's Cutler & Forte against the world. No one else is doing anything.

[Tiduwho]

Yeah, id say be depressed. We can't be consistent this yr. Really hope we beat min. Also, was at the det game Monday, and the fans were terrible this yr. I go every yr to that game with my cousin. Holy cow, you'd think they have already won the division and the super bowl. So much shit talking and being a-holes. Worst fan base I've ever been around ever by a mile. Can't wait to be ruthless to their fans @ soldier in november.

Yep...I've said this for years. Detroit Lion fans are far worse than anything we've ever experienced from Packer or Viking fans. Anytime they get even a hint of success, they turn into cocky assbags.

[cruscott35]

Yeah, id say be depressed. We can't be consistent this yr. Really hope we beat min. Also, was at the det game Monday, and the fans were terrible this yr. I go every yr to that game with my cousin. Holy cow, you'd think they have already won the division and the super bowl. So much shit talking and being a-holes. Worst fan base I've ever been around ever by a mile. Can't wait to be ruthless to their fans @ soldier in november.


Give us a break. Been a long time since we could talk shit to anyone. We deserve a little bit of being rowdy.

[cruscott35]

Yep...I've said this for years. Detroit Lion fans are far worse than anything we've ever experienced from Packer or Viking fans. Anytime they get even a hint of success, they turn into cocky assbags.

When was the last time we had even a hint of success? The first 8 weeks of 07? Before that? 99? 97?

[Tiduwho]

When was the last time we had even a hint of success? The first 8 weeks of 07? Before that? 99? 97?

The first 8 weeks in 07 yea, but more accurately it was actually going into the season of so many years in which the talking heads all had the Lions as the "breakout team of the year" all thru the 00s.

[cruscott35]

The first 8 weeks in 07 yea, but more accurately it was actually going into the season of so many years in which the talking heads all had the Lions as the "breakout team of the year" all thru the 00s.


You'll get that when you talk to the idiot fans of any team.

[Tiduwho]

You'll get that when you talk to the idiot fans of any team.

Agreed...

[AJF_41]

I feel good about the Vikes this week.

[UCFish]

I feel good about the Vikes this week.

so do I....AP may have 9 TD's

[GUnit]

Give us a break. Been a long time since we could talk shit to anyone. We deserve a little bit of being rowdy.

No fucking way dude. I can understand being amped and enjoying it, but the fans at ford field were some of the most classless dirtbags I've ever been around. Bunch of rookie fans up there who don't know how to enjoy a game. It was the least fun I've ever had at any sporting event ever. Ill go ahead and assume you are a pile of garbage too if you are defending that detroit trash bandwagon fan base.

[GUnit]

Yep...I've said this for years. Detroit Lion fans are far worse than anything we've ever experienced from Packer or Viking fans. Anytime they get even a hint of success, they turn into cocky assbags.

I agree. Most the time with any opposition its mainly playful and in good taste. The lions fans were a disgrace. I've never seen such blatant doucheyness from an entire stadium of people.

[ProudMonkey420]

so do I....AP may have 9 TD's

that means my fantasy team whoops up!!!

hahah who am i kidding, why would i pick a viking lol

GO PACK!!!! :multi:multiw:multi:multi:multi:multi:multi

[DMBZeppelin]

Yep...I've said this for years. Detroit Lion fans are far worse than anything we've ever experienced from Packer or Viking fans. Anytime they get even a hint of success, they turn into cocky assbags.
I agree. Kind of makes me hope they go back to being the Lions. I do love me some Calvin Johnson though.

Give us a break. Been a long time since we could talk shit to anyone. We deserve a little bit of being rowdy.
You have the Pistons and Red Wings. It's not like Detroit teams haven't won before. As a Cubs fan they've made the playoffs 4 times since 1985. One of those times was in 1989 when I was 4 years old.

You know how when a player scores they say "Act live you've been there before?" well act like you've been a fan before that season.

I agree. Most the time with any opposition its mainly playful and in good taste. The lions fans were a disgrace. I've never seen such blatant doucheyness from an entire stadium of people.
:thumbsup

[BotheDMBFan]

We will lose by 10 tonight.

[skwormin]

we'd better not lose tonight

[DMBCubs25]

Vikings 34 Barice 16

[GUnit]

i think that we should win this game tonight. that minn defense looks frisky but i just think we have way more talent than them. maybe our defense will come thru with a few points and we can get some special teams magic.

[rustysurf83]

If the Bears lose this, its season over...and I might rip the television off the wall.

[Tiduwho]

I don't know what the hub-bub is all about....all the Bears have to do is win out and they'll be fine.

[cruscott35]

I agree. Kind of makes me hope they go back to being the Lions. I do love me some Calvin Johnson though.


You have the Pistons and Red Wings. It's not like Detroit teams haven't won before. As a Cubs fan they've made the playoffs 4 times since 1985. One of those times was in 1989 when I was 4 years old.

You know how when a player scores they say "Act live you've been there before?" well act like you've been a fan before that season.


:thumbsup

I hate hockey, and out of the 3, football, baseball, basketball, I'd give up basketball first. Detroit is a football town. I was home for the ALDS and all sports radio talk was about the Lions, during a baseball playoff series.

And I promise you, when the Cubs are good, you'll probably be a little more obnoxious than you otherwise normally would. It's not like Chicago teams haven't won either, so quit the 'whoa is me' shit. The Lions have sucked for a long, long time. They are good now. The fans are going to enjoy it after years and years of ridicule.

[GUnit]

If the Bears lose this, its season over...and I might rip the television off the wall.

we should win this one. i think its obvious we arent going to the playoffs, but i think this minnesota team should be a relatively easy win

[GUnit]

actually let me rephrase that - not an easy win but one we should get. AP has a history of doing damage, but i dont think that mcnabb has the ability to kill us like their qbs have in the past. stop AP from running wild and we should have this one.

[Tiduwho]

So apparently Chris Harris losing his starting job wasn't enough, they are now inactive'ing him....:confused

[Tiduwho]

Peppers to play tonight....this after hearing a report on the Score just an hour ago that he wasn't....

[bonzo48280]

Peppers to play tonight....this after hearing a report on the Score just an hour ago that he wasn't....

Jeff Dickerson said not to count him out on Friday...good call by him

[rustysurf83]

Such a fucking joke that Harris is inactive.

[Tiduwho]

Such a fucking joke that Harris is inactive.

I'm scared. I really hope Chris Conte is a pleasant surprise...but I'm doubting it.

[rustysurf83]

It doesn't make sense. If you want to punish Harris for getting burnt last week (with a Hamstring injury), whatever; but the fact remains that he is the best Safety on the roster.

[GUnit]

I hate hockey, and out of the 3, football, baseball, basketball, I'd give up basketball first. Detroit is a football town. I was home for the ALDS and all sports radio talk was about the Lions, during a baseball playoff series.

And I promise you, when the Cubs are good, you'll probably be a little more obnoxious than you otherwise normally would. It's not like Chicago teams haven't won either, so quit the 'whoa is me' shit. The Lions have sucked for a long, long time. They are good now. The fans are going to enjoy it after years and years of ridicule.

"Whoa is me"? what does that even mean haha. the lions didnt look too good today when the niners fed them their lunch. in about 3 more wks they will be just what they are - the feel good story of the first few weeks of the year. I cant wait to watch the packers bend them over on national tv on thanksgiving. that will end all of the lions are good talk, and show that they are just competitive. being good and competitive are two different things.

[lockman21]

It doesn't make sense. If you want to punish Harris for getting burnt last week (with a Hamstring injury), whatever; but the fact remains that he is the best Safety on the roster.

That's so sad too.

[rustysurf83]

That's so sad too.

Its a complete indictment on JA that the best safety is Harris, the best WR is Bennett, and the best OL is...? Carimi? If only we had known these weaknesses coming into on the the biggest free agent frenzies of all time! Shit!

[GUnit]

yeah, for sure sucks to see how bad of shape our team is in when it comes down to it. definitely time for a new coach and GM.

[rustysurf83]

Fun fact: Omiyale has never been inactive and is dressed tonight.

[Tiduwho]

Martz needs to get Forte involved for once!!

[Tiduwho]

Oh lol, I had no idea this was a home game. For some reason I thought we were in Minny.

[crashintonickdm]

a rare roy williams sighting