Da Bears

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Glad I got to miss this game.

[rustysurf83]

PGL guys are roasting Angelo right now...

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Bears need to lose out.

[Tiduwho]

Start Enderle from here on out. There's NO reason not to.

[cruscott35]

Bears need to lose out.

Don't tell your buddy that.

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=13179617&postcount=13293

[iamjtr]

Can't believe what has happened here. Poor Knox too. I thought they guy was going to be a paraplegic after seeing that the first time.

[Tiduwho]

Don't tell your buddy that.

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=13179617&postcount=13293

Oh cruscott, you really are a troll.

Rooting for your team to make the playoffs, with the playoffs on the line. Or having your team lose out, when they are basically ELIMINATED from the playoffs.


How do you not see the merit in wanting to see your team in the playoffs with a healthy Cutler and Forte playing? Now that the Bears are eliminated from the playoffs, you really don't see a difference?

[cruscott35]

Oh cruscott, you really are a troll.

Rooting for your team to make the playoffs, with the playoffs on the line. Or having your team lose out, when they are basically ELIMINATED from the playoffs.


How do you not see the merit in wanting to see your team in the playoffs with a healthy Cutler and Forte playing? Now that the Bears are eliminated from the playoffs, you really don't see a difference?

Aren't eliminated are you?

[rickyh24]

I have Green Bays defense going against the Bears in FF championship week. So awesome.

[Tiduwho]

Aren't eliminated are you?

Only if your team continues to choke. :lol

Yes, then we will still be in it. And thus we should root to win next week in that scenario.

[UCFish]

Oh cruscott, you really are a troll.

Rooting for your team to make the playoffs, with the playoffs on the line. Or having your team lose out, when they are basically ELIMINATED from the playoffs.


How do you not see the merit in wanting to see your team in the playoffs with a healthy Cutler and Forte playing? Now that the Bears are eliminated from the playoffs, you really don't see a difference?

So true...

[DMBZeppelin]

I have Green Bays defense going against the Bears in FF championship week. So awesome.
If the Bears get officially eliminated on Saturday. Expect them to win big to screw up where they pick in the draft. Thus screwing your season. Never trust the Bears.

[bonzo48280]

Go Hawks!

[UCFish]

This team is fucking awful

[sean52692]

Was at the game today. Had a lot of fun.

But good god, what a terrible game. Hanie is just terrible and should never see a snap as a Bare again.

Go Bulls!

[sean52692]

This team is fucking awful

Our offense is so fucking awful.

Shame because our defense is great, and those guys are aging quickly.

[Tiduwho]

I HATE this team.

[UCFish]

Our offense is so fucking awful.

Shame because our defense is great, and those guys are aging quickly.

good point D is good until the offense put them in fucked situations.

[sean52692]

good point D is good until the offense put them in fucked situations.

:thumbsup

With so many key players injured on offense, there's really no positives.

[iamjtr]

Lose out, get a good draft, fix them injuries, keep forte, stabilize the line early next year. Those could all be positives of the 2011 season. We'll see how positive they decide to make this all.

[cwsrule88]

looks like Carimi is going to get more surgery on his knee. The Bears sure do know how to pick offensive lineman. :thumbsdow

[gocubsgo3822]

I am so mad with this team

[skwormin]

http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20111220/SHE0101/312210029/Packers-fan-angered-by-team-s-performance-charged-strangling-daughter?odyssey=mod%7Cdefcon%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

I've wanted to strangle someone for the past 4 weeks. Fuckin' Green Bay bitches get on the strangle train after 1 loss. I fucking hate football

[MPizzle06]

Our offense is so fucking awful.

Shame because our defense is great, and those guys are aging quickly.

This will be the long-term downfall of keeping Angelo with the notion that this year blew up because of injuries alone. We need a new GM who will not draft first round busts to replace the aging core of our defense.

[gocubsgo3822]

From Grantland today

Flop: Caleb Hanie, who serves as another example of why you can't take one quarter of action very seriously. In last year's playoffs, Hanie came in after Jay Cutler got hurt and Todd Collins 0 for 4 performance basically signed the death warrant on his own career. The Bears took Hanie's play as a sign that he was ready to be Jay Cutler's primary backup, and while he was an upgrade over the atrocious Collins, he's not an NFL quarterback. After his latest start, Hanie's thrown 102 passes and completed 51 of them, for a completion percentage at an even 50 percent. He's thrown nine interceptions, producing an interception rate of 8.8 percent. Nobody has thrown interceptions that frequently over 100 or more pass attempts in 23 years! Steve Grogan narrowly beat it out in 1988. After you adjust for the era Hanie plays in, pro-football-reference.com suggests that Hanie's been worse at avoiding picks than anybody in NFL history since the merger. Hanie's also been sacked on a whopping 14.5 percent of his dropbacks. PFR suggests that only three players since the merger, after adjusting for era, have gone down more frequently. Bottom line: Caleb Hanie might be the worst quarterback to throw 100 passes since the AFL merged with the NFL. If Chicago's backup had merely been below average, their defense would likely have been enough to get them into the playoffs. Instead, they will spend their January on the finest golf courses in America.

[RAPUNZEL13]

Josh McCown will be starting Sunday....

[BotheDMBFan]

I could be starting next week and I wouldn't care.

[lockman21]

Josh McCown will be starting Sunday....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

[skwormin]

0 fucks are being given

[RAPUNZEL13]

Yea, I couldn't care less. They should just pick up someone from the streets and start him.

Saw Jay Cutler at the Hawks game last night also.. That was sweet.

[Tiduwho]

Josh McCown will be starting Sunday....

Josh McCown: http://img.mediaspanonline.com/5149/4935740.jpg

Ivan Drago: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ktbR-vmpeI0/Ts1jfyhP1fI/AAAAAAAAIJU/XsYJ-02CSs8/s1600/josh.jpg

[RAPUNZEL13]

Josh McCown: http://img.mediaspanonline.com/5149/4935740.jpg

Ivan Drago: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ktbR-vmpeI0/Ts1jfyhP1fI/AAAAAAAAIJU/XsYJ-02CSs8/s1600/josh.jpg


:lol:lol:lol

[cwsrule88]

Sunday is going to get ugly

[RAPUNZEL13]

Sunday is going to get ugly

Thank god basketball returns Sunday..

[DMBCubs25]

O/U 17 point loss?

[iamjtr]

Yea, I couldn't care less. They should just pick up someone from the streets and start him.

Saw Jay Cutler at the Hawks game last night also.. That was sweet.
You say anything to him or did he have a crowd ?

[Tiduwho]

Had a dream we scored 2 defensive touchdowns and won.


Unless both Atlanta and Detroit lose today, winning is useless.

[bonzo48280]

Had a dream we scored 2 defensive touchdowns and won.


Unless both Atlanta and Detroit lose today, winning is useless.

nope.

Detroit has to lose out.
Seattle has to lose one game.
We have to win out.

Seattle plays San Francisco this week, so there is their loss. Detroit plays San Diego and the Packers, so if they lose today, and some miracle allows the Bears to win tomorrow, the odds of making the playoffs shoot up because we play Minnesota and Detroit plays the Pack.

[Tiduwho]

nope.

Detroit has to lose out.
Seattle has to lose one game.
We have to win out.

Seattle plays San Francisco this week, so there is their loss. Detroit plays San Diego and the Packers, so if they lose today, and some miracle allows the Bears to win tomorrow, the odds of making the playoffs shoot up because we play Minnesota and Detroit plays the Pack.

Yeah I know, I just meant playing the percentages. Just one team losing isn't enough for me. I want odds. Don't want to get happy for nothing.

[skwormin]

The only way we can still make the playoffs now is if Atlanta losses out and we win out.


I could see ATL losing to NO this week.

but that's about it. No way they lose to TB next week

[bonzo48280]

I didn't even know we could still win over ATL. That's nuts.

[RAPUNZEL13]

You say anything to him or did he have a crowd ?

Na.. There was a crowd. He was with his fiancé also. Didn't want to bother the man.

[RAPUNZEL13]

The only way we can still make the playoffs now is if Atlanta losses out and we win out.


I could see ATL losing to NO this week.

but that's about it. No way they lose to TB next week

Yea thats not gonna happen. :shrug

TB is awful. I don't understand how they went from decent last year, to horrible this year.

[sean52692]

Im on the beach in fl instead of watching these clowns

[gocubsgo3822]

Surprisingly not bad

[NextMovement41]

Really not that bad of a first half for da bears. You gotta be happy for your #3 and 4 backs, really stepping up there.

[NextMovement41]

Gotta love it when one of the big guys score

[UCFish]

got ugly quick

[DMBZeppelin]

If Bell can score a TD I can turn this off. Would of been leading in my fantasy game already but Bell gave the TD to Edwin Williams.

[UCFish]

McCown!!!!

Hmmm.....hindsight...but I bet he beats the Chiefs and Broncos...not sure about the Seahawks.

[gocubsgo3822]

Bairz are so bad

[rickyh24]

Like RUH ROH bad?

[thebestauntie]

Like RUH ROH bad?
Almost spit out my drink all over my laptop. :lol :lol :lol

[UCFish]

Like RUH ROH bad?

Much worse....but Bairz without Cutler not really the Bears...

unlike Pats without Brady....Pats were the same with Castle

=

Cutler>Brady

[gocubsgo3822]

Much worse....but Bairz without Cutler not really the Bears...

unlike Pats without Brady....Pats were the same with Castle

=

Cutler>Brady

You are smart unlike rickydumdum24

[UCFish]

You are smart unlike rickydumdum24

:lol:lol:lol

[rickyh24]

When did the Patriots have a Castle?

[UCFish]

When did the Patriots have a Castle?

3 years ago maybe 4?

[gocubsgo3822]

When did the Patriots have a Castle?

This is just dumb rickydumdum24.. You know what he meant

[rickyh24]

Like a Castle?? With a moat??? Must have missed it. Sounds fucking awesome though.

[gocubsgo3822]

rickydumdum24 is mad that the bulls are 1-0 and the celtics are 0-1... Its all good

[rickyh24]

I'm super mad about that. :lol Enjoy your off season.

[gocubsgo3822]

I'm super mad about that. :lol Enjoy your off season.

With your shitty defense you will be joining us soon

[MtSkier]

McCown!!!!

Hmmm.....hindsight...but I bet he beats the Chiefs and Broncos...not sure about the Seahawks.

Yep. No doubt.

[rickyh24]

With your shitty defense you will be joining us soon

Not that soon.

[DMBZeppelin]

5 game losing streak is the longest since the Jauron Bears in 2002.

[gocubsgo3822]

Whatever we will get an ok draft pick. I selfishly want Alshon for cutty

[skwormin]

Two things we learned tonight

Bell > Barber

McCown > Haine


Fire JA please.

[BotheDMBFan]

Whatever we will get an ok draft pick. I selfishly want Alshon for cutty

I wouldn't be opposed to trading up to get that guy from OK State.

[gocubsgo3822]

I wouldn't be opposed to trading up to get that guy from OK State.

I would not mind that either

[Tiduwho]

Bears. Season. Over.

(for real this time)

[MtSkier]

Yup. Hopefully in the offseason we will dump Barber (Bell proved himself as #2 back), acquire a receiver through the draft or free agency, get a real safety/fix the secondary in general, and patch up the line (though with Cutty they weren't quite as awful during the win streak). However knowing Angelo we will get rid of great players, waste money on old washed up dudes other teams dont want, and generally destroy the team.

[gocubsgo3822]

Need the following

1. Defensive backs particularly safeties
2. OLB so Nick Roach is minimized.
3.Wide Receiver Chief would busta nut if we drafted Alshon.
4. Linemen

[BotheDMBFan]

Need the following

1. Defensive backs particularly safeties
2. OLB so Nick Roach is minimized.
3.Wide Receiver Chief would busta nut if we drafted Alshon.
4. Linemen

I liked how Wright and Conte are moving forward.

Absolutely.

That'd be dope, although I want Blackmon instead.

Why is this not #1?

[pedramzahipour]

Blackmon's going top 5 you guys, doubt he makes it past St. Louis, wherever they end up picking. I'd set your sights on a Alshon Jeffrey or a Kendell Wright.

[BotheDMBFan]

We'll end up drafting a DT we don't need.

[bonzo48280]

Major Wright?? No, no, no.

[BotheDMBFan]

Tillman made a pro bowl. Good for him.

[bonzo48280]

I just want to see Urlacher win the Super Bowl once. I'll die a happy Bears fan. I think he has 4-5 years left, which means a lot rests on this offseason.

[Tiduwho]

I will be missing this last travesty-to-be of a Bears game. But do not fret, it is for a good cause. Going to the Rose Bowl!! Flying out to LA tomorrow. The girl I just started seeing had it all set up already (she went to Madison and has season tickets). I can't wait!! :multi

[DMBZeppelin]

Quest for the Best Draft Pick
1. 2-13 Rams
2. 2-13 Colts
3. 3-12 Vikings
4. 4-11 Jaguars
5. 4-11 Browns
6. 4-11 Buccaneers
7. 5-10 Dolphins
8. 5-10 Redskins
------------------
9. 6-9 Panthers
10. 6-9 Chiefs
11. 6-9 Bills
12. 7-8 Eagles
13. 7-8 Chargers
14. 7-8 Bears
15. 7-8 Cardinals
16. 7-8 Seahawks
17. 8-7 Jets
18. 8-7 Broncos
19. 8-7 Cowboys
20. 8-7 Raiders
21. 8-7 Giants
22. 8-7 Titans
------------------
23. 9-6 Falcons
24. 9-6 Bengals

In theory we could still tie for the 9th pick. Though I'm sure we'd lose some spots on tie breakers. Losing is VERY important this week. If we lose there's a solid chance at being a Top 15 pick. We could go no lower than the 16th pick.

Teams we want to win:
Vikings over Bears
Panthers over Saints
Chiefs over Broncos (if we lose)
Broncos over Chiefs (if we win)
Bills over Patriots
Eagles over Redskins
Chargers over Raiders (if we lose)
Jets over Dolphins
Titans over Texans

Whoever has the tougher Strength of Schedule
Chargers @ Raiders (if we win)
Seahawks @ Cardinals
Cowboys @ Giants

[Doors Allan Coe]

Even I'm on board for this one!

Lose out and get a better draft pick!

Top 10 would be fantastic. That would be a steal. Chicago was playoff bound until Cutler got hurt. Now we can reap the benefits of being a shitty team, all the while being on the brink of the playoffs! Top 10...god I would be looking forward to draft day. Depending on who is on the board that also give Chicago leverage to move back and accumulate some great picks. Not that we can count on them panning out...

[skwormin]

im in STL for the weekend and contemplating missing the bears game to go to the Rams 49ers game haha. If I can get really cheap tickets (which I probably can) I wouldn't mind going.. never been before.

Rose bowl sounds like it's going to be awesome man have a blast

[rustysurf83]

Where is Michael Floyd projected to go? Like 10-15?

[sean52692]

Where is Michael Floyd projected to go? Like 10-15?

Fuck we need to draft him. JA, please draft a receiver first round.

I will not be watching on Sunday.

[pedramzahipour]

Where is Michael Floyd projected to go? Like 10-15?

Probably even later, it seems the earliest most have him going is around 15. Kendell Wright's getting a lot of talk lately and that'll probably only increase after he runs the 40, so either he can push guys like Floyd down the board or he's a really interesting prospect himself.

[Tiduwho]

Please lose Bears.

[sean52692]

yeah, just lose. I rarely will root for my team to lose, but we just need to lose. It's hard to root for these fuckers without Cutler and Forte

[DMBZeppelin]

McCown to Williams... this teaches us nothing. We need to turn the ball over more. I'm pretty pissed Hanie is the backup. Enderle may be the only QB back next year. Why have him be a COMPLETE unknown? This is annoying.

[gocubsgo3822]

Aisle424 Tim McGinnis
That was a dangerous pass. He threw that right into the hands of a wide open Roy Williams. He got away with one.

[DMBZeppelin]

Damnit!!!! Just like that we lead. I don't see the Vikings coming back :(

[DMBZeppelin]

Peppers blocks a field goal. This is awful.

[Tiduwho]

Bears are fools.

[jaking1185]

Bears are fools.

Well that goes without saying. ;)

[gocubsgo3822]

Bairz are so dumb... Such a frustrating season

[DMBZeppelin]

Vikings leave 6 points in the field with blocked/bad field goals. So mad we won this game.

[rustysurf83]

Fucking Bears

[Tiduwho]

Matt Flynn wtf.....

[jaking1185]

Matt Flynn wtf.....

Even our backups can destroy people. Maybe you guys can pay him? :D

[Timebomb07]

Any update on Urlacher?

[rustysurf83]

Sprained MCL

[iamjtr]

I feel like this is a bit harsh, but I don't want Hanie to show his face in the city of Chicago again. Sorry bud, you sucked.

[rustysurf83]

Hanie shouldn't have even dressed today...

[DMBZeppelin]

Had we lost we'd have the 11th, 12th, or 13th pick depending on tie breakers.

[rustysurf83]

So, I think (emphasis on think) that using the NFL scheduling formula, next year's opponents will include the following in addition to division match ups.
@Jacksonville
@ Tennessee
@ St. Louis
@ Arizona
@ Carolina
v. Indianapolis
v. Houston
v. Seattle
v. SF
v. NY/DAL loser

[myersk27]

So, I think (emphasis on think) that using the NFL scheduling formula, next year's opponents will include the following in addition to division match ups.
@Jacksonville
@ Tennessee
@ St. Louis
@ Arizona
@ Carolina
v. Indianapolis
v. Houston
v. Seattle
v. SF
v. NY/DAL loser

seems right to me, but for some reason they didn't stay true to the scheduling formula this year for the Bears. They typically rotate the home and away for those out of conference games, but the Bears played at Oakland and home for KC this year just the same as in 2007....i'm not sure why those two games weren't home Oakland and at KC this year....does anyone know why that happened?

[DMBZeppelin]

So if what I'm reading is correct. Instead of the 13th pick we will wind up with the 19th. What a great win today. It only cost us a future impact player and Brian Urlacher. Glad we went all out today.

[sean52692]

fuck this franchise

[cwsrule88]

I don't even know in terms of the draft what the bears should do. So many holes on this team

[sean52692]

IMO our needs

1. WR
2. OL
3. DBs

we need an impact reciever capable of making some big plays.

[Tiduwho]

We are finished for years to come.

[iamjtr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GnDj0G1T64

Never saw this before but hysterical

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Missed the game just saw the urlacher injury. Ohhh shit... is this the end of Urlacher? Dudes pretty old...

[skwormin]

Urlacher will be fine. He is a beast.

This franchise? We are fucked.


FUCKED

[sean52692]

Urlacher will be OK, i think

[sean52692]

uhhhhh, is anyone else seeing this????? :multi :multi :multi

Chicago Tribune @chicagotribune 4m
#ChicagoBears GM Jerry Angelo is gone

[skwormin]

oh FUCK YES

[skwormin]

omg omg omg omg omg it's like second Christmas !! :multi

[skwormin]

I feel like my suffering for the past 6 weeks is no longer in vain

[MtSkier]

Im ready to dance in the streets I'm so happy. This trainwreck of a season was worth it for that.

[cwsrule88]

glad to see that Jerry Angelo got fired.

[Tiduwho]

No more JA yay!

[trippinchad]

Mike Martz resigns? Kinda surprising..I thought him and Cutler were finally making some strides.

[skwormin]

Mike Martz has resigned.

Brad Biggs @BradBiggs Close
#Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz has resigned, according to @danpompei as a day of change continues at Halas Hall.



well, we won't see the playoffs for a few years.

fuck

[skwormin]

Dan Pompei
@danpompei
Following

BREAKING: Mike Martz resigns from Bears over philosophical differences. Story coming soon at chicagotribune.com


fuck. I personally think this is a lot worse than it is good.

[trippinchad]

Yeah I'm not a bears fan but I must say I'm pretty surprised. I can't imagine this is good.

[Tiduwho]

How in the world is it not good?

Change was needed. Woo! We can finally get back to the playoffs now.

[skwormin]

I'm just afraid we're taking 2 steps back and 1 step forward

[Doors Allan Coe]

Yeah I'm not a bears fan but I must say I'm pretty surprised. I can't imagine this is good.

It's not bad.

Change is good. Sam Hurd pretty much sealed the deal for JA. Not to mention how ridiculously bad Chester Taylor or the big malituna turned out.

I'm not a JA hater. But, I'm excited to see which direction Chicago goes. Clearly he leaned too much on "sleeper" and "inury prone" during his drafts.

Trading for Cutler kept the franchise out of the cellar. It's a shame because if Cutler didn't get injured Chicago would have most likely made it to the playoffs...

[Doors Allan Coe]

I'm just afraid we're taking 2 steps back and 1 step forward

It could easily turn out that way...

[Doors Allan Coe]

How in the world is it not good?

Change was needed. Woo! We can finally get back to the playoffs now.

Chicago was in the playoffs last year and on course for the playoffs this year...

JA wasn't keeping Chicago out of the playoffs.

[trippinchad]

I wasnt talking about the GM leaving, I was talking about Martz...i thought the offense was finally looking good before Cutler went down.

[skwormin]

If Cutler doesn't get hurt we 100% without a doubt make the playoffs. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely delusional.

[trippinchad]

Im really curious now, as a Bears fan, are you happy to see Martz go? As an outsider, I thought the offense was really moving before Cutler got hurt..it looked like he was finally getting it down. I'd certainly say this is a step back IMO

[skwormin]

Im really curious now, as a Bears fan, are you happy to see Martz go? As an outsider, I thought the offense was really moving before Cutler got hurt..it looked like he was finally getting it down. I'd certainly say this is a step back IMO

Me personally, I think this is going to do more to hurt our team than help it, in the short run at least.

This is how I see it. We have had a playoff caliber team for 2 years now. Not that far removed from a Super Bowl.

We have an aging defense and an offense that was finally starting to gel.

Now rip everything apart and start from scratch. Defense is still aging. Who's to say they can even be half as good as they were these past few years?

In the long run, maybe, but I still don't feel too confident about this one.

[MtSkier]

Meh, lets be honest, that offense that succeeded wasn't the Martz system anymore, the Bears were over that when Cutler said he couldn't take getting destroyed out there anymore. Not a huge loss IMO.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Im really curious now, as a Bears fan, are you happy to see Martz go? As an outsider, I thought the offense was really moving before Cutler got hurt..it looked like he was finally getting it down. I'd certainly say this is a step back IMO

I mean sure now everyone has to learn a new offense but he didn't really fit here. The only way he'd be useful here is if we had an awesome O-line.

The only reason the offense was doing so much better is because Martz actually changed his schemes for us. He was chalked full of 7 step drops and deep threat attacks but since our O-line was so terrible Cutler was usually on his ass by the 7th step. He was like 60-70% pass to 30-40% run. Once he shortened everything up and took a step back and ran the ball more we did a lot better. And honestly really it was Cutler making all the plays out there. Half the time Martz play would fail and Cutler would have to scramble out of a sack and make something outta nothing.

Plus I think there was some stale air between other coaches and players and him still after Cutler called him out. I think we'll be fine without him. Just have to learn a new offense.

[DMBZeppelin]

Im really curious now, as a Bears fan, are you happy to see Martz go? As an outsider, I thought the offense was really moving before Cutler got hurt..it looked like he was finally getting it down. I'd certainly say this is a step back IMO

The offense moved because of Cutler. He had to demand Martz not run his offense. Bears need to hire Bill Polian. That guy knows how to build an
offense.

[DMBZeppelin]

I feel like my suffering for the past 6 weeks is no longer in vain
I just wish we were giving our new GM the 13th and not the 19th pick.

We need to let Cutler hire the next coordinator. Hell they just had Dez Clark on the Score. He says you won't find a better football mind on the field than Cutler. So putting this guy in a system he's comfortable with, building it around his strengths, and letting him audible. It would make Cutler that much better.

[DMBZeppelin]

Wow Laurence Holmes just said when Ruskell got there all the scouts had different grading systems to evaluate problems. So when he got there he streamlined the grading systems. That tells me just how bad Angelo was at his job.

[jaking1185]

Hello Bill Polian....

[crashintonickdm]

How in the world is it not good?

Change was needed. Woo! We can finally get back to the playoffs now.

you were going to the playoffs if you didnt lose your average QB and pro bowl RB.

when those two went down you had no running game, and a horrific backup.

[bonzo48280]

you were going to the playoffs if you didnt lose your average QB and pro bowl RB.

when those two went down you had no running game, and a horrific backup.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[cwsrule88]

hopefully the new GM can draft better then Angelo and the new offensive lineman uses the offense to Cutlers strengths.

[BotheDMBFan]

Im really curious now, as a Bears fan, are you happy to see Martz go? As an outsider, I thought the offense was really moving before Cutler got hurt..it looked like he was finally getting it down. I'd certainly say this is a step back IMO

The Martz offense was getting Cutler murdered. The Mike Tice offense kept him alive and us looking good.

[crashintonickdm]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

cutler doesnt strike me as anything more.

he took a pretty good stride this year, but overall, meh.

[BotheDMBFan]

The offense moved because of Cutler. He had to demand Martz not run his offense. Bears need to hire Bill Polian. That guy knows how to build an
offense.

No he doesn't. He knows how to draft Peyton Manning.

[BotheDMBFan]

cutler doesnt strike me as anything more.

he took a pretty good stride this year, but overall, meh.

He has had nothing to throw to. Johnny Knox was his best WR option.

[crashintonickdm]

He has had nothing to throw to. Johnny Knox was his best WR option.

like i said, he took a pretty good stride this year.

actually, yeah, average is being unfair. hes slightly above.

[bonzo48280]

No he doesn't. He knows how to draft Peyton Manning.

He knows how to not draft Ryan Leaf

[BotheDMBFan]

He knows how to not draft Ryan Leaf

Peyton was pretty much the consensus #1, though.

[bonzo48280]

Peyton was pretty much the consensus #1, though.

that is not true, at all. It was pretty much 50/50 between the two. That's why people say Luck is the first unquestionable top prospect since Elway, and not since Peyton.

[DMBZeppelin]

you were going to the playoffs if you didnt lose your average QB and pro bowl RB.

when those two went down you had no running game, and a horrific backup.

cutler doesnt strike me as anything more.

he took a pretty good stride this year, but overall, meh.

like i said, he took a pretty good stride this year.

actually, yeah, average is being unfair. hes slightly above.
If you truly believe this you're letting your Chicago hatred blind the obvious. Cutler elevated one of the worst o-line and receiving cores into an explosive offense when he went down. Cutler is a guy who was tearing it up in Denver. In Chicago he's yet to be given any sort of supporting cast outside of Forte. He's yet to have an offensive coordinator willingly play to his strengths. If Cutler had TWO of the Packers receivers he'd put up elite numbers no problem.

If he's "above average" then what exactly doesn't he do well? He doesn't have elite production because he doesn't have NFL talent surrounding him. Once he got used to the talent surrounding him he's done nothing but make great decisions, makes throws very few QB's in the NFL can make, and made everyone around him look a lot better. Even Forte didn't look too hot in the 5 quarters he played without Cutler.

This team was 7-3 because of Cutler. That record would have been even better if it didn't take till the Lions game to convince Lovie to handcuff Martz again. Without him it took two missed field goals by the 3 win Vikings to squeak out a victory.

No he doesn't. He knows how to draft Peyton Manning.
This is really incorrect. Polian put together some great teams for the Colts. Where he went wrong is letting his son get involved. Chris got heavily involved in the last 5 years with making football decisions. Bill couldn't fire his own son. It cost him his job. If Bill comes it has to be without Chris. We just need anyone who can draft receivers. A smart QB with good receivers can beat a pass rush and make this o-line look a lot better.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Polian would be pretty meh...

The Colts rarely could run the ball. The Colts D struggled.

On second thought... he might fit in just fine...

[crashintonickdm]

If you truly believe this you're letting your Chicago hatred blind the obvious. Cutler elevated one of the worst o-line and receiving cores into an explosive offense when he went down. Cutler is a guy who was tearing it up in Denver. In Chicago he's yet to be given any sort of supporting cast outside of Forte. He's yet to have an offensive coordinator willingly play to his strengths. If Cutler had TWO of the Packers receivers he'd put up elite numbers no problem.

If he's "above average" then what exactly doesn't he do well? He doesn't have elite production because he doesn't have NFL talent surrounding him. Once he got used to the talent surrounding him he's done nothing but make great decisions, makes throws very few QB's in the NFL can make, and made everyone around him look a lot better. Even Forte didn't look too hot in the 5 quarters he played without Cutler.

This team was 7-3 because of Cutler. That record would have been even better if it didn't take till the Lions game to convince Lovie to handcuff Martz again. Without him it took two missed field goals by the 3 win Vikings to squeak out a victory.


This is really incorrect. Polian put together some great teams for the Colts. Where he went wrong is letting his son get involved. Chris got heavily involved in the last 5 years with making football decisions. Bill couldn't fire his own son. It cost him his job. If Bill comes it has to be without Chris. We just need anyone who can draft receivers. A smart QB with good receivers can beat a pass rush and make this o-line look a lot better.

my 3rd post corrects my first two.

bears just had bad luck this year. losing a slightly above average QB, and star RB can kill a team.

canning the GM, and forcing the OC out seems stupid...

[sean52692]

Thank god Martz is gone.

Can we have Olsen back now? Fuck.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Thank god Martz is gone.

Can we have Olsen back now? Fuck.

Ya, no kidding. We need to get tight ends involved again.

Also, lets please cut Roy Williams.

[DMBCubs25]

Great day, don't let the door hit ya on the way out Jerry!!!

[cwsrule88]

my 3rd post corrects my first two.

bears just had bad luck this year. losing a slightly above average QB, and star RB can kill a team.

canning the GM, and forcing the OC out seems stupid...

no Jerry Angelo proved that he shouldn't be the Bears gm

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/03/zuba-angelos-top-picks-where-are-they-now/

[BotheDMBFan]

Martz is probably going to be UCLA's HC.

[skwormin]

no Jerry Angelo proved that he shouldn't be the Bears gm

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/03/zuba-angelos-top-picks-where-are-they-now/

Wow... I knew JA sucked at drafting........


but I guess I didn't realize he was THAT BAD. :violent

[cruscott35]

Wow... I knew JA sucked at drafting........


but I guess I didn't realize he was THAT BAD. :violent

You could put together a similar for just about every team in the league.

Losing Cutler killed you guys, just like I said it would. No team can lose a well above average QB and be fine, unless they've got a starter behind him, something few teams can say.

All of Martz's lines get sacked, didn't see enough to know if yours blows worse than others, but all of Martz's offenses lead the league in sacks. Throwing a lot, having 7 step drops, and not allowing the QB to audible will do that to you.

Getting a WR in the first round would be foolish, but I hope you guys do. Individual WRs are pretty replaceable unless you get an elite one.

[skwormin]

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7425159/ex-chicago-bear-sam-hurd-indicted-drug-dealing-charges

"Hurd allegedly negotiated to pay $25,000 per kilogram for the cocaine and $450 per pound for the marijuana."


Wow he was getting good prices :evil

[Doors Allan Coe]

You could put together a similar for just about every team in the league.
Losing Cutler killed you guys, just like I said it would. No team can lose a well above average QB and be fine, unless they've got a starter behind him, something few teams can say.

All of Martz's lines get sacked, didn't see enough to know if yours blows worse than others, but all of Martz's offenses lead the league in sacks. Throwing a lot, having 7 step drops, and not allowing the QB to audible will do that to you.

Getting a WR in the first round would be foolish, but I hope you guys do. Individual WRs are pretty replaceable unless you get an elite one.


1) I agree. Bears fans blast Angelo because they have horse blinders on. Many teams have been much worse over the past few years. As I as I like Lovie, you could also shift blame to inept playcalling and a dated D scheme. JA had some misses. But, every year many teams are hosed by 1st round picks.

2)I agree again! Unless it's one of those years where the top WR drops to 18, it's usually foolish to draft a WR at the position. It's a shame Chicago won that last game. 13th overall pick seems so much more exciting than 18th overall pick...

[bonzo48280]

Bears looking at Les Sneed from Atlanta: http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7427303/source-chicago-bears-look-atlanta-falcons-les-snead-gm

[patrick62181]

long live jay cutler
http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/34204066

[skwormin]

God what a fucking hardass.

I love Jay Cutler

[DMBZeppelin]

If Cutler is for it I wouldn't mind finally going to Bates. He knows how to use Cutler. He got fired in Seattle because he and Carrol had huge philosophical differences. I don't think that be an issue with Cutler and Bates. In the end all I want is a coordinator who trust Cutler to audible at the line, will listen to his input, and listen to Tice on what needs to be done to protect Cutler.

Lets remember when Cutler got here Turner called the EXACT same offense as when he had Orton. He refused to let Cutler use Aromashadu despite his weekly pleas, and wouldn't play to his strengths. No bootlegs or moving pockets. Finally the last two weeks they gave Cutler what he wanted and the offense flourished. We won our last two games and Cutler looked fantastic. Then we get Martz here. He runs his offense personnel be damned. It takes 7 weeks of Cutler getting killed for Lovie to force him to change. Finally he does and things look ok. Now this year same thing again. It takes about 5 weeks of Cutler getting killed, saying he doesn't know if he can last the season, and finally we change the offense.

The entire time he's been here Cutler has not had a single coordinator play to his strengths, play to the strengths of his supporting cast, or listen to his input unless absolutely forced to by Lovie Smith. We've wasted 3 years of his career. Imagine if we had the right guy from day one? Cutler could be going into year 4 of the system, and his production would probably be off the charts. Just frustrating how this has unfolded, but we need to get it right this time. This needs to be the last system Cutler ever has to learn. We need to groom potential replacement coordinators by having good QB coaches.

Actually here's my ideal off-season:

Hire the Ravens Eric DeCosta as the General Manager.
Hire the Packers Tom Clements as Offensive Coordinator.
Hire Jeremy Bates as the QB coach or OC if Clements doesn't happen.

[DMBZeppelin]

Damn one of the people I wanted the Bears to target if my top choice fell through.

Adam Schefter (https://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter) @AdamSchefter
Raiders now plan to hire Packers director of football operations Reggie McKenzie as their next general manager.

[cwsrule88]

Damn one of the people I wanted the Bears to target if my top choice fell through.

Adam Schefter (https://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter) @AdamSchefter
Raiders now plan to hire Packers director of football operations Reggie McKenzie as their next general manager.

Damn I heard today they are looking at the guy from Baltimore.

[skwormin]

Mike motherfucking Tice

[Tiduwho]

So mikw trice is the new o ccoordinator, bit there will be a co-passing coordinator???

[DMBZeppelin]

I don't like having a passing/running coordinator. I don't think Tice can challenge Cutler to make him better.

[sean52692]

Tice :lol

greaaaaat..

[DMBZeppelin]

Marshall's first tweet was about something that happened in the Saints/Lions game. It's VERY unlikely to happen, but it be pretty great if the new Dolphins head coach didn't want Marshall and they dealt him.

Brandon Marshall @BMarshall19
I miss @jaycutler6 believing in me like that.

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@BMarshall19 I can get #15 out of storage! Suit you back up.

Ryan Clady @RyanClady
@BMarshall19 @jaycutler6 Aww you guys are BFF's again. #Cute hahahaha

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@RyanClady You can join us big guy.

Brandon Marshall @BMarshall19
@JayCutler6 these young duos r the old us. Haha #chemistry

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@BMarshall19 Please. We can run circles around these guys.

Teddy Tidd @TTidd94
@JayCutler6 i think its time to get the cutler/marshall duo back together in thw windy city

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@TTidd94 Let's do it!

[BotheDMBFan]

I would die.

[UCFish]

Marshall!!!!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

Clady can come too.

[DMBZeppelin]

Clady can come too.
If we had had Clady at LT with Cutler's favorite receivers ever in Marshall and Bennett? Bears would never lose again.

I'll settle for getting Marshall and drafting a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round to develop.

[AJF_41]

Mike Tice

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[DMBZeppelin]

Mike Tice

:lol :lol :lol :lol
Tice makes a lot of sense. He's a well respected o-line coach, but has had the responsibility of being a head coach previously. While he's never been a coordiantor neither had Marinelli. So it's the exact same situation where they'll still focus on their respective lines while being in charge of the complete unit.

The main reason you're seeing Mike Tice is because it allows you to hand full control of the offense to Cutler. He will go into next year with it being his 3rd in the system. Tice will run the ball more than Martz, but that's also to protect Cutler. Not to mention Cutler should have the ability to audible now.

Tice isn't an offensive genius. For the sake of Cutler's continued development it makes a lot of sense to promote him, but we know who's really in charge.

[DMBZeppelin]

Oh and just so it doesn't get stuck on the end of the last page. This needs to be posted again.

Marshall's first tweet was about something that happened in the Saints/Lions game. It's VERY unlikely to happen, but it be pretty great if the new Dolphins head coach didn't want Marshall and they dealt him.

Brandon Marshall @BMarshall19
I miss @jaycutler6 believing in me like that.

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@BMarshall19 I can get #15 out of storage! Suit you back up.

Ryan Clady @RyanClady
@BMarshall19 @jaycutler6 Aww you guys are BFF's again. #Cute hahahaha

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@RyanClady You can join us big guy.

Brandon Marshall @BMarshall19
@JayCutler6 these young duos r the old us. Haha #chemistry

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@BMarshall19 Please. We can run circles around these guys.

Teddy Tidd @TTidd94
@JayCutler6 i think its time to get the cutler/marshall duo back together in thw windy city

Jay Cutler @JayCutler6
@TTidd94 Let's do it!

I would die.

Marshall!!!!!!

Clady can come too.

[sean52692]

I'd do cartwheels for a week if we signed Marshall

[bonzo48280]

Am I the only one who wouldn't be against trading Forte for picks and/or players? We could get more than the Browns got for Julio.

[sean52692]

Definitely against that. If we sign forte, he looks to be a sure thing for years to come at RB.

[lockman21]

Against losing Forte as well.

[bonzo48280]

my opinion is that we could get more than what the Browns got for Julio Jones, and they got 2 firsts, a second, and 2 fourths. I say all that and someone else at RB, is better than Forte at RB with the rest of our shitty holes

[myersk27]

tribune reports Raiders have asked for permission to talk to Tice for their head coaching position.....

[lockman21]

my opinion is that we could get more than what the Browns got for Julio Jones, and they got 2 firsts, a second, and 2 fourths. I say all that and someone else at RB, is better than Forte at RB with the rest of our shitty holes

I disagree.

Until this team shows any consistency with drafting under the new GM, I want no part of trading away proven superstars for draft picks. Even then, I don't know how I feel about that trade.

[DMBZeppelin]

my opinion is that we could get more than what the Browns got for Julio Jones, and they got 2 firsts, a second, and 2 fourths. I say all that and someone else at RB, is better than Forte at RB with the rest of our shitty holes
I'd need a TON of faith in the new GM's drafting ability. Not to mention it's not just rushing yards you need to replace with Forte. You need someone who can block and be a great receiver. I'm not sure Forte has maxed out his value coming off a season ending injury.

tribune reports Raiders have asked for permission to talk to Tice for their head coaching position.....
Which we have to allow him to interview per the rules. I'm hoping he gets it if only so we can hire a real offensive coordinator. Screw this passing coordinator crap.

[skwormin]

Forte is the future

[cruscott35]

my opinion is that we could get more than what the Browns got for Julio Jones, and they got 2 firsts, a second, and 2 fourths. I say all that and someone else at RB, is better than Forte at RB with the rest of our shitty holes

No way you get that much for Forte. Not in a million years.

[DMBZeppelin]

Ross merits high marks from bosses (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0119-gm-bears-chicago--20120119,0,1426625.story)
By Dan Pompei

The Bears (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/chicago-bears-ORSPT000036.topic) would like to be where the Giants (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/new-york-giants-ORSPT000197.topic) are, preparing for the NFC (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/national-football-conference-EVSPR00003532.topic) championship game.

Maybe one of the men who helped the Giants get there, college scouting director Marc Ross, one day can help the Bears get there as well.

The Bears interviewed Ross for their vacant general manager position Wednesday.

He was the third candidate to be interviewed after Patriots (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/new-england-patriots-ORSPT000192.topic) pro personnel director Jason Licht and Chargers (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/san-diego-chargers-ORSPT000056.topic) personnel director Jimmy Raye. The team also is scheduled to interview Bears personnel director Tim Ruskell on Thursday and Chiefs (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/kansas-city-chiefs-ORSPT000046.topic) college scouting director Phil Emery on Friday.

Ross has been with the Giants since 2007, working under general manager Jerry Reese. During Ross' tenure, the team has used first-round picks on safety Kenny Phillips (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/kenny-phillips-PESPT0014087.topic), wide receiver Hakeem Nicks (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/hakeem-nicks-PESPT0014027.topic), defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/jason-pierre-paul-PESPT0014090.topic) and cornerback Prince Amukamara (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/prince-amukamara-PESPT000009740.topic).

Ross is a veteran of three NFL teams even though he's only 38. At 27. he became the NFL's youngest scouting director while working for the Eagles (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/philadelphia-eagles-ORSPT000211.topic), who gave him his first full-time NFL job.

"He loved sports and knew his stuff," said former Eagles player personnel man John Wooten, who gave Ross his first NFL job. "With the knowledge he had, you knew he was something special. He has shown that in Philadelphia, Buffalo and New York."

Ross also worked for Tom Modrak with the Eagles, and Modrak later hired him to be his national scout for the Bills (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/buffalo-bills-ORSPT000034.topic).

"He has a great feel for what needs to be done," Modrak said. "He's able to see what the job is all the time. He's a really good talent evaluator."

It's almost cliche to say Ross is bright, but everyone says it anyway. He has a bachelor's degree from Princeton in sociology and a master's in sports administration from Massachusetts. At Princeton, he played wide receiver and still holds the school record for average yards per reception in a season with 20.2 in 1993.

But those who know Ross say he isn't one of those brainiacs who doesn't deal well with those around him.

"He is smart about football and people," Modrak said. "He has a feel for the room. He has the ability to pull things together. He draws from everybody around him because he's very aware."

That doesn't mean Ross can't be strong-minded. Modrak said Ross sticks to his convictions even if others disagree.

However, like former Bears general manager Jerry Angelo (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/jerry-angelo-PESPT0000011502.topic), Ross is considered a consensus builder.

"Here we do everything together," Reese said. "Wherever Marc goes, he knows everybody's voice is important. I think he'll take that with him. We come to a consensus on guys. We don't necessarily have one guy say this is our guy. If we can't come to a consensus, we'll pick somebody else."

Ross does not have extensive administrative experience, but he has done some contracts and Reese gives him considerable autonomy.

"Reese has him run the draft, very similar to what Ernie Accorsi did with Reese," said Wooten, who endorsed Ross in a phone conversation with Bears coach Lovie Smith (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/lovie-smith-PESPT008481.topic). "He's ready. He's ready to run a team."

Reese agrees.

"On draft day he does a tremendous job," Reese said. "He has veteran scouts around him and young scouts around him and he manages those guys really well. He stays out all year long looking for players just like our scouts. He's definitely qualified. Obviously I'm biased, but there's no reason for him not to succeed. He'll do a tremendous job wherever he goes."

[DMBZeppelin]

I like that Ross seems to be a pretty smart guy. I'd like for the Bears to get their own Theo Epstein. I looked over his drafts. It's a mixed bag because I don't think anyone hits all the time. What's REALLY important to me is he's hit on all the 1st round picks.

2007
Round 1 - Aaron Ross CB
Round 2 - Steve Smith WR
Round 3 - Jay Alford DT
Round 4 - Zak DeOssie LB
Round 5 - Kevin Boss TE
Round 6 - Adam Koets OT
Round 7 - Michael Johnson S
Round 7 - Ahmad Bradshaw RB

2008
Round 1 - Kenny Phillips S
Round 2 - Terrell Thomas CB
Round 3 - Mario Manningham WR
Round 4 - Bryan Kehl LB
Round 5 - Jonathan Goff LB
Round 6 - Robert Henderson
Round 6 - Andre Woodson QB

2009
Round 1 - Hakeem Nicks WR
Round 2 - Clint Sintim LB
Round 2 - William Beatty OT
Round 3 - Ramses Barden WR
Round 3 - Travis Beckum TE
Round 4 - Andre Brown RB
Round 5 - Rhett Bomar QB
Round 6 - DeAndre Wright CB
Round 7 - Stoney Woodson CB

2010
Round 1 - Jason Pierre-Paul DE
Round 2 - Linval Joseph DT
Round 3 - Chad Jones S
Round 4 - Phillip Dillard LB
Round 5 - Mitch Petrus G
Round 6 - Adrian Tracy LB
Round 7 - Matt Dodge P

2011
Round 1 - Prince Amukamara CB
Round 2 - Marvin Austin DT
Round 3 - Jerrel Jernigan WR
Round 4 - James Brewer OT
Round 6 - Greg Jones LB
Round 6 - Tyler Sash S
Round 6 - Jacquian Williams LB
Round 7 - Da'Rel Scott RB

[Tiduwho]

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7484018/donovan-mcnabb-was-expecting-call-chicago-bears

Donovan McNabb expected Bears call

Donovan McNabb (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1753/donovan-mcnabb) said Friday he was expecting a call from the Chicago Bears (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/chi/chicago-bears) after Jay Cutler (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9597/jay-cutler) went down with a fractured thumb Nov. 20, but that call never came and the Bears lost five of their last six to miss the playoffs.

"I thought the Bears would call," McNabb said on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "So many people continuously talked about the Mike Martz offense and things of that nature. I personally didn't care about that. If you want to win and win now, you go out and get a better quarterback and you cater your offense to his strengths, and obviously the strengths of your team.

"Obviously it didn't work out well for them. It's unfortunate. I wish things would have worked out, but it didn't. We will see what happens from now on."

Martz and the Bears parted ways shortly after the season ended, and Jerry Angelo was fired as general manager.

"That call (from the Bears) was fully never made," McNabb said. "I think also, just kind of what direction they wanted to go with. When you look at the situation they had, obviously Jay is their guy. I don't know about their backup situation, but you had a solid defense, a defense that was playing well at the time.

"Obviously going forward they have some decisions to make as far as bringing in some youth on both sides of the ball and some talent that will help them get to where they were last year."

McNabb admitted entertaining thoughts of returning as a hometown hero.

"I definitely thought about it," he said. "Growing up a Bears fan, I kind of saw myself playing back home and hopefully winning the Super Bowl ... I think when the situation was there, everyone, friends and family, thought it would happen. It didn't, things didn't work out well for them.

"I got a chance to relax and rest my body, so I don't mind at this particular time what happened, but things could have been different."

[Tiduwho]

By the way, sounds like the Chiefs guy Phil Emery is the front runner for GM.

[sean52692]

I know nothing about NFL GMs, so I can't comment. :lol

[Tiduwho]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-qb-cutler-and-fiance-cavallari-are-expecting-1st-baby-20120122,0,4770881.story

Uh oh, maybe the reason Cutty and Cavallari got back together is she broke the news?

[bonzo48280]

eh, idk about that. they were broken up for a few months. if she would have gotten preggers before they broke up she would be long pregnant by now, possibly even have had the baby

[Tiduwho]

Yeah, I never really followed the timeline. The second Billy Bush comes on my tv, I change it.

[BotheDMBFan]

I guess Vincent Jackson will actually be a free agent this off-season.

[DMBZeppelin]

@BobMcGinn: The #Bears on the verge of hiring #Chiefs dir. of college scouting Phil Emery as GM. NFL sources said just a matter now of dotting the i's.

Yay! We hired the wrong guy. A former Bears scout who worked for Tim Ruskell in Atlanta. They hired the comfortable candidate who'd bring little change as possible.

[bonzo48280]

who is responsible for drafting Urlacher and Briggs? Isn't it Emery?

[DMBZeppelin]

who is responsible for drafting Urlacher and Briggs? Isn't it Emery?
He worked as an area scout for the Bears for six years under Mark Hatley and Jerry Angelo.

If he gets credit for Urlacher and Briggs. He should also get credit for Curtis Enis, Cade McNown, David Terrell, Anthony Thomas, ect. plus all of Angelo's picks from 02-04.

[Tiduwho]

Phil Emery, aka BFF Phil, or some guy that's never been in a draft room before. Awesome choice of GM. This is gonna ROCK. :BANG

[Doors Allan Coe]

Licht v. Emery

I'm not totally sold on either guy, but I'm also not totally against either choice.

I tend to lean towards Licht because...well...he worked in New England. Which really doesn't mean much considering many former New England coaches and staffers have failed when hired elsewhere.

But, I feel nervous when looking at the Bears drafts during Emery's stinit in Chicago. Obviously he didn't make all the calls. But, damn that was a dark period.

Either way the new GM will have a lot of work to do...

[Doors Allan Coe]

Ok, I have a question...

Does anybody think that trading Forte could be a good move depending on what the Bears get in return?

Reasons for not trading Forte are clear. He is a huge part of the O. He has a great demeanor and seems like a team player. Asshat RBs are a dime a dozen, Forte is special.

Reasons for seeks a trade are also pretty clear. RBs have a short shelf life. While Forte was such a big part of Chicago's offesense, you could argue that it's because Chicago is in serious need of RB depth AND starting caliber WRs.

Obviously some people will want more than others, but I'm sure we can all agree that if the price was right it wouldn't be the worst idea. What type of deal would make you feel ok about trading Forte? For me, I would want 1 first round pick, plus a smattering of other picks to help re-build our aging D and hopefully fill some areas of need. What if the trade included a decent RB?

I'm not saying I want to see Forte traded. But, reality is that option seems open considering a new GM may not want to invest a ton of cash into an RB when many teams did well without one blockbuster RB. Plus, the Chris Johnson holdout / lost season sobered me up to the fact that many teams built around RBs tend to struggle. St. Louis, Minnesota, and Tennesse come to mind. Before this year I would throw San Fran in that category.

Thoughts?

[Tiduwho]

If we didnt have a QB, then I can are the forte trade. But we have probably one last chance w the defense, and we don't have time to rebuild w draft picks and still win next year.

If our defense was done, then lets get pueces around cutty.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Forte, Knox, and 4th

for

Marshall, 2nd, and 3rd


cool?

[bonzo48280]

Forte, Knox, and 4th

for

Marshall, 2nd, and 3rd


cool?

I would..

EDIT: are you speculating or is this going around somewhere?

[jaking1185]

Forte, Knox, and 4th

for

Marshall, 2nd, and 3rd


cool?

The Dolphins wouldn't do that. If they are in the Peyton chase they wouldn't get rid of their best receiver. Also they have Reggie Bush and wouldn't need Forte. Marshall also said on the radio that he is pretty much locked up in Miami, but would like to play with Cutler again.

[Doors Allan Coe]

I would..

EDIT: are you speculating or is this going around somewhere?

I wouldn't even call it speculation. I would call it a hypothetical trade scenario. After listening to all the Cutler love, I figured I would try and spark some conversation in here.


The Dolphins wouldn't do that. If they are in the Peyton chase they wouldn't get rid of their best receiver. Also they have Reggie Bush and wouldn't need Forte. Marshall also said on the radio that he is pretty much locked up in Miami, but would like to play with Cutler again.

Duh! Don't worry Mr. Reality, I'm just trying to start a little conversation. We know Forte need a contract. We know how dangerous signing an RB to a ridiculous deal could be. We see that even having an elite RB doesn't mean anything. I figured we might as well start getting used to the idea Forte might go bye bye.

Hell, after everyone freaked out over Olsen, we might as well brace ourselves...

[jaking1185]

I'm sorry that I injected reality into this.

Did you heard about us trading Forte for Chris, Calvin and Andre Johnson? ;)

[Doors Allan Coe]

I'm sorry that I injected reality into this.

Did you heard about us trading Forte for Chris, Calvin and Andre Johnson? ;)

Well, that's a bit different.

Forte clearly will either be signed to a huge deal or be sitting out camp.

The Dolphins will have a coach and strange things happen to every team when coaching staffs are shaken up.

I threw up the hypothetical to start discussion on Forte's possible departure. Instead of critiquing it and complaining about it you could have offered your 2 cents on the Forte situation. It's clear something is gonna happen either a long term extension or a trade. I think it's safe to say a new GM won't just let Forte sit out the season and get nothing in return. JA might have done that, but a new GM is going to want the team ready to roll week 1.

It's safe to say Forte won't be traded (if at all) until after both Free Agency and the Draft. But, since we don't have anything to talk about I didn't think it would be offensive to bring up the only Chicago Bears related story making the rounds on ESPN.

edit: i guess they could trade him ON draft day...

[DMBCubs25]

Emery chosen as the next GM.

[sean52692]

what do you guys think about this?

[DMBZeppelin]

what do you guys think about this?
Awful choice.

Maybe we luck out and Emery is the goods. He was the pick for all the wrong reasons. Number one reason he's here is because he has a history at Halas Hall. I wanted someone with ZERO connection to the Bears. Someone who could bring culture change not keep everything the same.

The second round of interviews were a joke. When the number one goal of the new GM was a good draft record. Why was the other guy interviewed in the 2nd round, from the Patriots, never allowed into the team's draft room?

Hopefully this guy just pans out. Keep in mind he's coming from a place like this: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14/3371495/arrowhead-anxiety-turnover-off.html

[sean52692]

god damn it bairs

[rustysurf83]

Stupid fucking Bears...

[DMBZeppelin]

KC drafts during Emery's tenure.

2009
Round 1: (DE) Tyson Jackson, LSU
Round 3: (DT) Alex Magee, Purdue
Round 4: (CB) Donald Washington, Ohio St.
Round 5: (OL) Colin Brown, Missouri
Round 6: (WR) Quinten Lawrence, McNeese St.
Round 7: (RB) Javarris Williams, Tennessee St.
Round 7: (WR) Jake O'Connell, Miami (OH)
Round 7: (K) Ryan Succop, South Carolina

2010
Round 1: (SS) Eric Berry, Tennessee
Round 2: (RB) Dexter McCluster, Mississippi
Round 2: (CB) Javier Arenas, Alabama
Round 3: (OG) Jon Asamoah, Illinois
Round 3: (TE) Tony Moeaki, Iowa
Round 5: (FS) Kendrick Lewis, Mississippi
Round 5: (DE) Cameron Sheffield, Troy

2011
Round 1: (WR) Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
Round 2: (OL) Rodney Houston, Florida St.
Round 3: (LB) Justin Houston, Georgia
Round 3: (DL) Allen Bailey, Miami
Round 4: (DB) Jalil Brown, Colorado
Round 5: (QB) Ricky Stanzi, Iowa
Round 5: (OLB) Gabe Miller, Oregon St.
Round 6: (DL) Jerrell Powe, Mississippi
Round 7: (RB) Shane Bannon, Yale

[BotheDMBFan]

That's actually pretty not that bad. that 2010 draft is tits.

[UCFish]

gross....

[MtSkier]

Could be terrible, but Ill reserve judgement until I see him in action.

[Doors Allan Coe]

I'm indifferent for now.

Nobody is really a perfect candidate. I also don't really hate the fact he has his to Halas Hall. It assures we won't see a huge disconnect. I'm curious on how the Forte situation will play out.

I personally don't think the Bears have been that bad. They've managed the cap well. If Emery could help bring Chicago stronger draft classes then he'll be an upgrade. It's not as if the attitude or culture in the locker room needed an overhaul. The Bears just need a GM who can built depth and succeed in the draft.

If the Bears have a couple of good drafts the team won't need to huge rebuilding period when the 30+ crowd moves on or retires.

[Tiduwho]

We are fuckt.

[DMBZeppelin]

Tim Ruskell is OUT!

Many thought he might be safe because he gave Emery his first big break. This shows me he's not a complete idiot.

[DMBZeppelin]

I'm indifferent for now.

Nobody is really a perfect candidate.
Well ya that's because the Bears had a list of candidates that weren't qualified to be GM's. There are other guys out there who are considered good young candidates that the Bears have no idea about.

I also don't really hate the fact he has his to Halas Hall. It assures we won't see a huge disconnect. I'm curious on how the Forte situation will play out.
You find out if there will be a disconnect by the interview process. You don't want to bring a guy in to run business as usual. You can't want massive change, but then ask for continuity.

I personally don't think the Bears have been that bad. They've managed the cap well.
Bad at what? The Bears roster is very thin. Cliff Stein is one of the best cap guys around. He's the reason we manage the cap so well. He should have Ted Phillips job.

If Emery could help bring Chicago stronger draft classes then he'll be an upgrade. It's not as if the attitude or culture in the locker room needed an overhaul. The Bears just need a GM who can built depth and succeed in the draft.

If the Bears have a couple of good drafts the team won't need to huge rebuilding period when the 30+ crowd moves on or retires.
If the only thing the Bears wanted out of a GM is to draft well they already screwed up the hire. Ross was the best scout of the bunch. He was also Lovie's choice.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Well ya that's because the Bears had a list of candidates that weren't qualified to be GM's. There are other guys out there who are considered good young candidates that the Bears have no idea about.
You find out if there will be a disconnect by the interview process. You don't want to bring a guy in to run business as usual. You can't want massive change, but then ask for continuity.


Bad at what? The Bears roster is very thin. Cliff Stein is one of the best cap guys around. He's the reason we manage the cap so well. He should have Ted Phillips job.


If the only thing the Bears wanted out of a GM is to draft well they already screwed up the hire. Ross was the best scout of the bunch. He was also Lovie's choice.


I don't really think disagree on anything. Chicago needs better drafts.

I can't tell why you picked apart my post sentence by sentence. I'm indifferent you're seemingly unhappy. What's the difference at this point? We'll all be singing a different tune once free agency hits, the draft happens, and the Forte situation is resolved. That's the first three thing we'll all make judgement on.

Maybe he'll be cheaper than JA and suck royally at every aspect of his job. But, he seems decent enough to reserve judgement until he does something. We won't have to wait very long. I'm into Vincent Jackson this offseason, so if he makes a play and signs VJ, I'll be a happy camper barring some sort of draft/Forte disaster. Not the VJ would cure all of Chicago's ailments. But, it wouldn't hurt. It would at least give me some false hope heading into next season...

[DMBZeppelin]

I can't tell why you picked apart my post sentence by sentence.
You made a lot of points. It's easier to respond if I do so to those points individually. I didn't realize you'd be upset by that.

I'm indifferent you're seemingly unhappy. What's the difference at this point? We'll all be singing a different tune once free agency hits, the draft happens, and the Forte situation is resolved. That's the first three thing we'll all make judgement on.

Maybe he'll be cheaper than JA and suck royally at every aspect of his job. But, he seems decent enough to reserve judgement until he does something.
Emery could turn out to be a fantastic GM and I wouldn't be floored if that happened. He was hired for the wrong reasons, but that's what happens when you have a non-football guy hire your main football guy.

A GM can't be "cheaper" you have to spend (x) amount under the current CBA. Angelo's problem was that he spent money terribly. Earl Bennett is the man, but he got a ridiculous contract. Jordy Nelson makes a lot less. When you over pay depth you wind up having to cut someone who's a quality player.

He's already better than JA at his job. He understands more about the NFL. Angelo didn't even have all his scouts using the same grading scale. Think about how insane that is in the modern NFL. Imagine going to school and your grade is a smiley face, kid next to you got a silver star, the in the row over got a B, and your best friend got a 7 out of 10 all on the same test. How do you compare prospects when you don't even know who's grading out better?

We won't have to wait very long. I'm into Vincent Jackson this offseason, so if he makes a play and signs VJ, I'll be a happy camper barring some sort of draft/Forte disaster. Not the VJ would cure all of Chicago's ailments. But, it wouldn't hurt. It would at least give me some false hope heading into next season...
I don't think he'll sign Forte long term. I'd expect him to get the franchise tag. Which I'm ok with because I don't believe Forte will holdout. A guy he may want over Jackson is Dwayne Bowe since he has history with him in KC. With Cutler campaigning for Brandon Marshall he'd have the cover to say "It wasn't on me. I'm just trying to make the QB happy."

[Doors Allan Coe]

Emery could turn out to be a fantastic GM and I wouldn't be floored if that happened. He was hired for the wrong reasons, but that's what happens when you have a non-football guy hire your main football guy.


The wrong reasons?

He has had decent success. He was worked in the organization before. I'm trying to understand what the "wrong reason" are. Nobody is really a promise of success.

I'm assuming the wrong reasons would be related to the fact he's older than Licht and he has a history with the Bears front office. But, maybe that's not what you're saying.

I still think it was a good hire. A bad GM can ruin a franchise. Emery is for all intensive purposes our new Chicago football god. He can do whatever he wants, hire, fire....whatever. The more I research his past the more I look forward to the offseason. He seems wise and respected. His track record is pretty good. Plus, he doesn't yet have the urge to gut the entire staff, which some GM do day one.

Bowe seems like the most logical WR aquisition. But, we'll see. It's hard to sit and hope for the top FA WR. I'm also excited the Chicago has 4 picks in the round 1-3 this year. I'm assuming Emery will either stay put or trade back depending on the circumstances. I haven't really looked into the mock drafts yet. So I'm not sure how all the top talent is ranked yet.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Well here is a list of Chicago free agents.



Matt Forte RB
Kahlil Bell RB* RFA
Zackary Bowman CB
Kellen Davis TE
Corey Graham CB
Caleb Hanie QB
Marcus Harrison DT
Israel Idonije DT
Tim Jennings CB
Josh McCown QB
Amobi Okoye DT
Matt Spaeth TE
Craig Steltz S
Edwin Williams C
Roy Williams WR

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Anyone wanna put some guesses in on who stays and who goes? I'm also guessing we might see some guys cut.

[DMBZeppelin]

The wrong reasons?

He has had decent success. He was worked in the organization before. I'm trying to understand what the "wrong reason" are. Nobody is really a promise of success.

I'm assuming the wrong reasons would be related to the fact he's older than Licht and he has a history with the Bears front office. But, maybe that's not what you're saying.
Emery has a similar background to Ted Thompson up in Green Bay. That worked out well. It's very possible he could turn out to be a great GM. Apparently behind the scenes he was much more decisive and drive with his vision than he let on in his presser. Where he basically said nothing, but maybe he doesn't want to reveal any detail no matter how small.

Licht was the worst possible choice out of the 5 we interviewed. The man wasn't even allowed into the draft room for the Patriots drafts. That's how much his opinion on players was valued. I would have liked someone younger, but he's not ancient.

The wrong reasons are that Ted Phillips has almost no football connections. He didn't know who to reach out to or who the top GM candidates around the NFL were. That's to be expected for a guy doesn't have a football background. He also has ties to the Bears. He got the job because he's someone they're very comfortable with. If there was an obviously more talented and accomplished prospective GM that interviewed for the job? Emery was likely to be the guy. He was the favorite from before the interviews even started. Emery told people during the week at the Senior Bowl he was getting the job. Other NFL teams, per Mike Florio, were laughing about it.

I still think it was a good hire. A bad GM can ruin a franchise. Emery is for all intensive purposes our new Chicago football god. He can do whatever he wants, hire, fire....whatever. The more I research his past the more I look forward to the offseason. He seems wise and respected. His track record is pretty good. Plus, he doesn't yet have the urge to gut the entire staff, which some GM do day one.
You are incorrect about Emery being able to gut the team. He's not allowed to consider firing Lovie until next year. Go listen to his interview on Boers and Bernstein. They really try to find out how much power he has, but he deflects everything. It was known for everyone going into the interview that the Bears wanted the team to stay the same. They want a guy to run the draft and stuff for now. Eventually Emery might get total control. Had prospective GM's been given full authority day 1 we'd have attracted a better list of candidates.

[Doors Allan Coe]

CHICAGO -- The Chicago Bears have hired former Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates to be the team's quarterbacks coach, the club announced on Tuesday.

wow!

This offseason is shaping up! I know you have got to love this one Zepp! It was only 2 years ago you were hoping he would be our OC. Now he's actually working with Cutler!

I'm liking this a lot. I'm a big Tice fan. Adding Bates is awesome.

All we need is some primo talent and Chicago is all set!

[DMBZeppelin]

Really really shocked we signed Bates. A couple weeks ago he wasn't even an option because the Bears were mad at him for shooting them down last time. He went to Seattle and didn't even interview with the Bears. There were even reports that the Cutler/Bates relationship was overblown.

I do know two things.

1. Without a doubt Bates was working with Cutler when he was at his best.
2. Bates doesn't come here without Cutler signing off on it

This is nice because Bates can come in and learn all our terminology under Tice. The key is to keep Cutler in the same system. He said himself he didn't want to learn new one. I don't think Tice will be our offensive coordinator forever, but if he's not up to the task you promote Bates.

[Doors Allan Coe]

This is nice because Bates can come in and learn all our terminology under Tice. The key is to keep Cutler in the same system. He said himself he didn't want to learn new one. I don't think Tice will be our offensive coordinator forever, but if he's not up to the task you promote Bates.

Yeah, it really is a great acquisition. Tice has a limited shelf-life whether he does great or does terrible. So maybe I missed something, but is bringing in Bates the FIRST official signing Emery has made? So far, so good. I'm starting to get excited for free agency and draft speculation.

[DMBZeppelin]

Zach Zaidman is saying Bates will be just the QB coach. There won't be a passing game coordinator. A clear power structure will work better IMO.

[DMBZeppelin]

Brandon Marshall would relish reunion with Jay Cutler (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/10476271-606/brandon-marshall-would-relish-reunion-with-buddy-jay-cutler.html)
BY SEAN JENSEN

INDIANAPOLIS — A month after a Twitter exchange with the Bears’ starting quarterback, *Miami Dolphins receiver Brandon *Marshall reiterated his affection for Jay Cutler.

Marshall is under contract through the 2014 season, but he was asked by the Sun-Times if *reuniting with his former Denver Broncos teammate would appeal to him.

“Maybe down the road, we may have some extra picks, and we may be able to trade for him,” Marshall said. “But we have a quarterback in place in Matt Moore. He did an amazing job [in the] second half of the season, and where we go from there we’ll see. But Jay is a special talent, and he’s a great friend.”

Marshall said he and Cutler stay in touch.

“We’re very good friends,” Marshall said. “Cutler, man, he’s an amazing guy. He’s probably got one of the biggest hearts. I played with Cutler at a time when I was very young and immature, and his guidance and leadership helped me not fall off the deep end. So Cutler is a very special *person to me.”

In July 2011, Marshall announced at a news conference that he had been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, and he hoped to spread awareness about the illness. It has affected him throughout his adult life, and it has played a part in a couple of legal incidents.

[rustysurf83]

Sounds like Marshall got his dick slapped for the Twitter deal. I mean, come one, everyone knows the talk wasn't about Cutler going to Miami.

[Doors Allan Coe]

randy moss?
to?

I'm not against either. I do think Moss would really fit with the deep passing game theme that the Bears have been tossing around since Tice has been promoted. What harm could it do? If he sucks, cut him. If he is a dick, cut him. I could be naive but maybe he's mellowed out a bit and just wants to win a ring.

[DMBZeppelin]

randy moss?
to?

I'm not against either. I do think Moss would really fit with the deep passing game theme that the Bears have been tossing around since Tice has been promoted. What harm could it do? If he sucks, cut him. If he is a dick, cut him. I could be naive but maybe he's mellowed out a bit and just wants to win a ring.
I'm 100% against Moss. I'd rather re-sign Roy Williams. With three teams in 2010 his production sucked. In addition to a year off football he'll have probably lost another step at his age. I'll take an undrafted free agent over a 35 year old Randy Moss. I think if he had anything left he'd have made a team last year. I'm not worried about him being a dick. I just think he has nothing left.

[Tiduwho]

randy moss?
to?

I'm not against either. I do think Moss would really fit with the deep passing game theme that the Bears have been tossing around since Tice has been promoted. What harm could it do? If he sucks, cut him. If he is a dick, cut him. I could be naive but maybe he's mellowed out a bit and just wants to win a ring.

Why waste the roster spot? Sounds absolutely crazy. There is a legit crop of free agent WRs out there, there's no reason to take flyers on has-beens this offseason. None at all.

Sign one, if not two WRs. Legit guys we've all heard of. Then build everything else in the draft. I don't see a 2nd or 3rd round WR contributing next year, so save it for better positions. Get the proven guy at WR.

Randy Moss or TO would probably duplicate Chad Ochocinco's year, and would be wasting a roster spot completely.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Why waste the roster spot? Sounds absolutely crazy. There is a legit crop of free agent WRs out there, there's no reason to take flyers on has-beens this offseason. None at all.

Sign one, if not two WRs. Legit guys we've all heard of. Then build everything else in the draft. I don't see a 2nd or 3rd round WR contributing next year, so save it for better positions. Get the proven guy at WR.

Randy Moss or TO would probably duplicate Chad Ochocinco's year, and would be wasting a roster spot completely.

Well, if Chicago signs a top tier WR they won't be spending any more FA money on a WR, other than possibly a lost cost guy like Moss.

If they sign 2 middle of the road FA WRs then shame on Emery.

But, Tice and Moss go waaaaay back baby! Why would I think out OC would be able to bring in a couple of guys he like? Happens every year. Moss is super low risk with a decent upside. Depends on his demeanor, but it's not that far fetched.

[DMBZeppelin]

Well, if Chicago signs a top tier WR they won't be spending any more FA money on a WR, other than possibly a lost cost guy like Moss.

If they sign 2 middle of the road FA WRs then shame on Emery.

But, Tice and Moss go waaaaay back baby! Why would I think out OC would be able to bring in a couple of guys he like? Happens every year. Moss is super low risk with a decent upside. Depends on his demeanor, but it's not that far fetched.
What? :ugh

You are severely overrating Moss at this point in his career. His upside is limited because he's old. Everyone has so much football in their body. He's used a lot of it up, and age is no longer on his side.

I don't think anyone is saying it's impossible for Moss to contribute somewhere. It's crazy to think he's a fit here. We need to sign a veteran receiver who's a lot better than Moss. On that much we agree. Obviously we need more than one guy. You draft the rest. That's where you find low cost guys with upside. Take one in the first two rounds. Grab another in rounds 3-5. We need to put together some receivers who will be with Cutler for a while.

Plus the other issue with Moss is he's not a special teams guy. Lets say we sign a bigger name FA lets say Bowe from KC since Emery has a connection. You don't target Moss you need to find a younger decent receiver who can play special teams. We need a replacement for Sam Hurd.

[Doors Allan Coe]

What? :ugh

You are severely overrating Moss at this point in his career. His upside is limited because he's old. Everyone has so much football in their body. He's used a lot of it up, and age is no longer on his side.

I don't think anyone is saying it's impossible for Moss to contribute somewhere. It's crazy to think he's a fit here. We need to sign a veteran receiver who's a lot better than Moss. On that much we agree. Obviously we need more than one guy. You draft the rest. That's where you find low cost guys with upside. Take one in the first two rounds. Grab another in rounds 3-5. We need to put together some receivers who will be with Cutler for a while.

Plus the other issue with Moss is he's not a special teams guy. Lets say we sign a bigger name FA lets say Bowe from KC since Emery has a connection. You don't target Moss you need to find a younger decent receiver who can play special teams. We need a replacement for Sam Hurd.


agreed.

almost forgot about hurd.

[Doors Allan Coe]

McCaskey: Money won't be issue in free agency

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-mccaskey-money-wont-be-issue-in-free-agency-20120216,0,5936632.story

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gotta love it.

so who is it? Bowe? who else? I'm about to officially make my wishlist for the offseason.

[Tiduwho]

McCaskey: Money won't be issue in free agency

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-mccaskey-money-wont-be-issue-in-free-agency-20120216,0,5936632.story

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gotta love it.

so who is it? Bowe? who else? I'm about to officially make my wishlist for the offseason.

Holy shit. George McCaskey looks like Principal Pedo from Ferris Buehler's Day Off!!!!

http://idiotflashback.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/bueller_03.jpg

[DMBZeppelin]

McCaskey: Money won't be issue in free agency

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-mccaskey-money-wont-be-issue-in-free-agency-20120216,0,5936632.story

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gotta love it.

so who is it? Bowe? who else? I'm about to officially make my wishlist for the offseason.

Minus that whole salary cap thing we're in great shape :lol

$8-9 mil on a franchise tag, another $3-5 mil on the draft class. We'll have some money but if we want to re-sign guys we won't have a ton to spend.

[DMBCubs25]

Holy shit. George McCaskey looks like Principal Pedo from Ferris Buehler's Day Off!!!!

http://idiotflashback.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/bueller_03.jpg

Edward Rooney. Isn't he dead now?

[Doors Allan Coe]

Minus that whole salary cap thing we're in great shape :lol

$8-9 mil on a franchise tag, another $3-5 mil on the draft class. We'll have some money but if we want to re-sign guys we won't have a ton to spend.

I thought the Bears have like 25 million.

I think thats enough to be competitive when free agency hits.

[DMBZeppelin]

I thought the Bears have like 25 million.

I think thats enough to be competitive when free agency hits.

I'm just going off the article you posted which said $20. I have no idea if it's $25.