Gorge 2004 Labor Day Thread

[rastawolf]

The seats are arranged in a similar arc to the gray(box seats) portion of the seating chart. I was in Sec C, Row 28, about the middle of the row for one show last year & it was a pretty good seat. I believe Butch was partially hidden from view though. I've also sat in rows 39-41 towards the inside of the section & I think they're fairly good seats as well. I just wouldn't want to be on the far outside of any of the rows.

Here's a crappy photoshop pic to show how the rows are arranged.

[dman0808]

a little late with my posting but i got

N1: Sec A row 16
N2: Sec A row 26
N3: GA2 Lawn

My friend got:

N1: Sec A row 7
N2: GA1 Lawn
N3: Sec C row 9

[uofmjess]

damn..my plane tickets went up $30 since yesterday. is anyone else waiting to buy their tickets to see if they go down?

[dmbpromoguy]

damn..my plane tickets went up $30 since yesterday. is anyone else waiting to buy their tickets to see if they go down?
Airlines usually work the opposite, prices increase as the date of when you want to travel grows near, for the best possible price its usually best to book early.

[pichtd]

Airlines usually work the opposite, prices increase as the date of when you want to travel grows near, for the best possible price its usually best to book early.
Especially for a holiday weekend. The prices actually did not go up, but the cheaper fare class has likely sold out.

[dmbpromoguy]

Ummmmmm......... this thread is dead! Whats up with threads about venues that dont even have shows, or threads about festivals that were never confirmed inthe first place gettin more action than this one????

[jenniferlee]

Hey ...I'll be right there w/ ya'll aththe Gorge shows...Can't wait!!!:bounce :multi :o

[jenniferlee]

The seats are arranged in a similar arc to the gray(box seats) portion of the seating chart. I was in Sec C, Row 28, about the middle of the row for one show last year & it was a pretty good seat. I believe Butch was partially hidden from view though. I've also sat in rows 39-41 towards the inside of the section & I think they're fairly good seats as well. I just wouldn't want to be on the far outside of any of the rows.

Here's a crappy photoshop pic to show how the rows are arranged.

The very back rows in reserved seating are the best. Im a long time Gorgr vet and nothing beats the last ten rows of sec A, B or C for the best band viewing and dancing

[dmbpromoguy]

The very back rows in reserved seating are the best. Im a long time Gorgr vet and nothing beats the last ten rows of sec A, B or C for the best band viewing and dancing
for a long time gorge vet........ C row 11 seat 29 whats your take?

[jenniferlee]

Im telling u guys...next to the soundboard is best...for seeing, hearing and dancing....

[jenniferlee]

For any section row 11 is gonna be good...seat 29 puts u right about the middle which isn;t bad if you can convince everyone in your row to fold their chair up to create more space....

[dmbpromoguy]

yeah I'm not so much looking forward to this folding the chairs up crap

[jenniferlee]

Not much of a dancer?? you'll get a better picture once your there...:)

[dmbpromoguy]

its not so much being a dancer vs not a dancer its more of the, if I'm in row 11 and people from rows 10-16 decide to fold up chairs around me, I've now got to deal with row 16ers pushing their way forward to stand next to me. Not lookin forward to it if it happens. This is exacly why the front floor sections at the arena where I live uses benches for the first swack of rows.

[jenniferlee]

I think the point of a show is to have a good time and it's silly that row 11 cant intermingle w/ row 16 or whatever...sounds kinda snobby to me..I come fron seeing a lot of Dead shows where most of the time its general admission...everybody mingles and nobody is pushy ...If someone wants to get in front of me to see better its ok by me. I've had plenty of front row nights where fans have allowed me to get a better peek at my favorite band. Row 55 people pay just as much as row 11 people....:p

[Mickey Carson]

I think the point of a show is to have a good time and it's silly that row 11 cant intermingle w/ row 16 or whatever...sounds kinda snobby to me..I come fron seeing a lot of Dead shows where most of the time its general admission...everybody mingles and nobody is pushy ...If someone wants to get in front of me to see better its ok by me. I've had plenty of front row nights where fans have allowed me to get a better peek at my favorite band. Row 55 people pay just as much as row 11 people....:p
A) It's not general admission.
B) It's not silly to me that row 16 can't intermingle with row 11...that's the point of rows and reserved seating.
C) If you had tickets in the front row would you want your row to be folded up so that someone 55 rows back can push his way up to your spot? If you want to experience the concert in a general admission fashion, move to the lawn.
D) Often people in row 11 pay more than people in row 55 because they've purchased their seats from brokers, have paid more money to the WH (i.e. membership fees) to get that seat, etc.

[dmbpromoguy]

Yes but this is not a general admission event. DMB could have made it one if they wanted, but they didnt.

[jenniferlee]

A) So??

B) the point of reserved seats is so they dont sell out the floor too heavy so people will be comfortable...
C) yes...you would???
D) Let your credit card free......:)

[dmbpromoguy]

ummmmmmmmm.....ya

[dman0808]

I think the point of a show is to have a good time and it's silly that row 11 cant intermingle w/ row 16 or whatever...sounds kinda snobby to me..I come fron seeing a lot of Dead shows where most of the time its general admission...everybody mingles and nobody is pushy ...If someone wants to get in front of me to see better its ok by me. I've had plenty of front row nights where fans have allowed me to get a better peek at my favorite band. Row 55 people pay just as much as row 11 people....:p

it's not snobby, it's a matter of having your space...if i'm in the front and people start folding up chairs, it becomes a GA show and people start pushing and shoving to get closer...you're experiences with the Dead may be different because most of my GA expereriences most people try to get as close as possible so when the artist comes on stage there is always a push towards them....and with as many people as there will be with DMB it'd just be caos...if you remember a few years back there was an incedent in D.C. and Dave wanted to stop the show because people were pushing to get closer and some people were getting hurt...if anything at all it's for safety.

[jenniferlee]

I think that should say somthing to people dont you...how much better is your experience when you have to shove your way through other people to get what...10 feet closer to the band. Maybe DMB audiences should take a lesson from other bands fanbases..i.e The Dead, String Cheese Incident, Phish...and relax a little, dont think so much about yourself and think more about the audience as a whole and your experience as well as the bands will be much better....:rolleyes:

[dmb_41_sd]

I think that should say somthing to people dont you...how much better is your experience when you have to shove your way through other people to get what...10 feet closer to the band. Maybe DMB audiences should take a lesson from other bands fanbases..i.e The Dead, String Cheese Incident, Phish...and relax a little, dont think so much about yourself and think more about the audience as a whole and your experience as well as the bands will be much better....:rolleyes:



Enough with this bullshit about folding up chairs. You better not fold up my chair or I'm gonna turn around swinging. I got lucky when I got row 2, I doubt I'll ever get it again and I dont want row 55 pushin their way next to me. Audience as a whole. I would if it was a general admission show but it's not.

GO TO THE LAWN if you wanna dance around swirling your arms!

:BANG :violent :BANG :violent

(ok, back to my usual calm self)

[Duckyguy]

Enough with this bullshit about folding up chairs. You better not fold up my chair or I'm gonna turn around swinging. I got lucky when I got row 2, I doubt I'll ever get it again and I dont want row 55 pushin their way next to me. Audience as a whole. I would if it was a general admission show but it's not.

GO TO THE LAWN if you wanna dance around swirling your arms!

:BANG :violent :BANG :violent

(ok, back to my usual calm self)

AMEN! :thumbsup

[BustedJeff]

I want to go to a Gorge show one of these days...

[jenniferlee]

maybe you 2 should have your own red velvet roped off section so no one will rub your elbow the wrong way at at show...

[Duckyguy]

maybe you 2 should have your own red velvet roped off section so no one will rub your elbow the wrong way at at show...

Fine with me. I am there to listen to music, not mingle with people 20 rows behind me because they pushed their way up.

[dman0808]

B) the point of reserved seats is so they dont sell out the floor too heavy so people will be comfortable...

yeah...and even if they didn't over sell the floor...all the people in the back begin pushing up and then where's teh confortability go?

maybe you 2 should have your own red velvet roped off section so no one will rub your elbow the wrong way at at show...

can i get a velvet rope too?

[dmb_41_sd]

maybe you 2 should have your own red velvet roped off section so no one will rub your elbow the wrong way at at show...

If I'm told I'm gonna get a velvet rope, damnit I want one. Just like everyone in the first 15 rows expect to be the only ones in those 15 rows. We were told we were going to be there and are told nobody else will be there crowding us. We have those spots reserved! Why dont you undertand that? It's not about being a snob, it's not about feeling better than the rest of the people behind us. You have such a skewed point of view on this it amazes me.

[Duckyguy]

:lol

[jenniferlee]

Either u 2 don't have very many shows under your belts and you have not experienced a truly unified crowd yet...or...your just that stuck up...sorry..im not trying to be mean but come on...sounds a little "I have row 2 and you have row 16 so don't evrn try to get into my space..."

[Duckyguy]

Actually classifying someone on how many shows they haven't been to is the stuck up thing here.

I don't want to experience an "unified crowd"

I want to listen to music and NOT have a) my chair removed from behind me and, b) not get pushed around because people are trying to push to the front.

I want to hear music.

You can have your unified crowd up on the lawn.

[Crumbo]

A) It's not general admission.
B) It's not silly to me that row 16 can't intermingle with row 11...that's the point of rows and reserved seating.
C) If you had tickets in the front row would you want your row to be folded up so that someone 55 rows back can push his way up to your spot? If you want to experience the concert in a general admission fashion, move to the lawn.
D) Often people in row 11 pay more than people in row 55 because they've purchased their seats from brokers, have paid more money to the WH (i.e. membership fees) to get that seat, etc.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[jenniferlee]

I think u have experienced too many shows where people are pushing and shoving...Ive been to plenty of Dave and other shows where the floor is a great experience..with no pushy issues...

[jenniferlee]

ps..you cant hear music w/o you chair or with others standing next to you??
please......................................

[mihighdavehead]

I want to listen to music and NOT have a) my chair removed from behind me and, b) not get pushed around because people are trying to push to the front.

I want to hear music.

You can have your unified crowd up on the lawn.

:thumbsup :thumbsup
Its all about the music.
Leave the seats alone, they cost $60+/each. ;)

[Duckyguy]

Really, because the past two year at the Gorge for DMB, I have had my chair removed without even asking me and/or been surged upon.

[Duckyguy]

ps..you cant hear music w/o you chair or with others standing next to you??
please......................................
I like my seat to be there more so people will not push up on me.

I like my space.

Plus, I like to be able to sit down if I get tired.

[jenniferlee]

Maybe you should just stay home and listen online or download the show afterward...you could be in your own private world happy as a oyster...(with a pearl...)

[JanelleM]

I have never sat...even for a second during a DMB show. D+F though was another story...

[jenniferlee]

Yeah!!!!:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[Duckyguy]

Nah, I prefer watching it live. Standing...with my chair comfortably behind me. Sitting when I want to. Enjoying THE MUSIC. Not experiencing an unified crowd. Not being bothered.

ENJOYING THE MUSIC

that is what I am there for.

[Duckyguy]

I have never sat...even for a second during a DMB show. D+F though was another story...

I have a knee issue. I can't stand for a couple hours at a time too much. So I expect the chair that I paid for to be behind me when I want to sit down.

[jenniferlee]

sounds like to me that your most worried about whats going on w/ you 5$ metal folding chair...if u were on ly there for the music u wouldnt care where u where in the crowd and who was in front of you and how unfair it is.....:devil

[Duckyguy]

sounds like to me that your most worried about whats going on w/ you 5$ metal folding chair...if u were on ly there for the music u wouldnt care where u where in the crowd and who was in front of you and how unfair it is.....:devil


Please see my post above.

EDIT: that is exactly why i want my chair and not to be pushed around

[jenniferlee]

great...no proble...keep your chair...but dont get upset if people around u want to enjoy themselves by dancing and having a good time..at a concert its unreasonable to expect you ont get your toes stepped on a few times...thats the nature of the game...maybe indoor venues w/ attached chairs are more suitable for someone that is so stuffy...

[Duckyguy]

Maybe the lawn is more suitable for people who want to dance.

EDIT: To each their own. But I guarantee that my chair will prevail over anyone trying to take it away from me.

[jenniferlee]

I think you sound like a show rookie when u make a statement like that...it must turn so many people off to hear how attached you are to your chair and it's little area it sits in.....

[Duckyguy]

See there you go again with classifying by how many shows someone has been to.

Like I said, to each their own.

[Duckyguy]

Jennifer, still waiting on your answer on the Gorge warehouse reserved thread too. :)

[dmb_41_sd]

I think you sound like a show rookie when u make a statement like that...it must turn so many people off to hear how attached you are to your chair and it's little area it sits in.....

:lol , I'm done with this argument. It's clearly not going to end. Let's just stop.

[Duckyguy]

I think you sound like a show rookie when u make a statement like that...it must turn so many people off to hear how attached you are to your chair and it's little area it sits in.....

Oh yeah, since I am not into the unified crowd theaory like you are, I don't really care if the crowd "is turned off" by me sitting down when I need to.

[Duckyguy]

:lol , I'm done with this argument. It's clearly not going to end. Let's just stop.


Good point.

Like I have said on two earlier posts....to each their own.

[Mickey Carson]

I think you sound like a show rookie when u make a statement like that...it must turn so many people off to hear how attached you are to your chair and it's little area it sits in.....

And you sound pretentious when you make a statement like that. It doesn't matter if you've been to 15 shows and I've been to 0...I have more of a right to do whatever the fuck I want with MY chair than you do. I paid 70+ dollars for that right...don't fuck with it because it's more convenient for you.

EDIT: And this conversation has easily run it's course...there's never going to be a consensus about this folding chair debate. But it does seem that everytime it's brought up, the majority of Dave fans want that chair there to avoid being potentially squished. And so does Dave.

[pichtd]

Maybe you should just stay home and listen online or download the show afterward...you could be in your own private world happy as a oyster...(with a pearl...)
Maybe you should find somewhere else to post.

I've been to enough shows to know what I like and don't like. Sat in reserved and lawn and enjoyed both, but no matter where I'm at, I want my space. If I have row 55 reserved, I don't want 56 shoving up my ass, and I don't want to be doing it to 54. Stay in you area, that is what the band wants, the fans around you want, and the venue wants. If DMB wanted it differently they would get rid of pavillion seats and have it GA up there.

[AudreyM]

I think that should say somthing to people dont you...how much better is your experience when you have to shove your way through other people to get what...10 feet closer to the band. Maybe DMB audiences should take a lesson from other bands fanbases..i.e The Dead, String Cheese Incident, Phish...and relax a little, dont think so much about yourself and think more about the audience as a whole and your experience as well as the bands will be much better....:rolleyes:
You've completely tromped on your own previous statement. First you say that row 16 should be able to mingle with row 11, and now you say that you shouldn't have to shove your way forward to get a better experience. :freak
There is room aplenty to dance with the chairs where they are. In fact there's more room to dance with the chairs where they are. It's set up so everyone gets their own little space of the venue. If someone is lucky enough to be close, let them be. One of these days you'll be there and you'll enjoy it so much more without row 16 trying to butt-fuck you.

A| Touch my chair and I'll go Uma on ya!

[FPrefect61]

A| Touch my chair and I'll go Uma on ya!

I'll do one better. Touch my chair, and I'm going fucking Mick Foley on you, and bashing your hippie head in with said chair.

Have a wonderful day, peace and love and lots of tree hugging!

[jenniferlee]

my whole point being that ive never been to a show,
Dave or otherwise, where I've been shoved or had to shove for some room. I've been close...I've bbeen far..If people around me think they need more room to dance by moving my chair or theirs...it's ok by me....

[jenniferlee]

And you sound pretentious when you make a statement like that. It doesn't matter if you've been to 15 shows and I've been to 0...I have more of a right to do whatever the fuck I want with MY chair than you do. I paid 70+ dollars for that right...don't fuck with it because it's more convenient for you.

EDIT: And this conversation has easily run it's course...there's never going to be a consensus about this folding chair debate. But it does seem that everytime it's brought up, the majority of Dave fans want that chair there to avoid being potentially squished. And so does Dave.
tanks for also being an expert on what dave wants...none of us including Dave want anyone to be squished..I'm saying no one has to get squished and still free to move around a little...geesh...

[item8274]

I'll do one better. Touch my chair, and I'm going fucking Mick Foley on you, and bashing your hippie head in with said chair.

Have a wonderful day, peace and love and lots of tree hugging!

cactus jack is much meaner than mick :rolleyes:


~PEACE~LOVE~MUSIC~

[asmjm39]

this crap again? Take my chair and see what happens

[dman0808]

tanks for also being an expert on what dave wants...none of us including Dave want anyone to be squished..I'm saying no one has to get squished and still free to move around a little...geesh...

true no one has to...but it does happen, plain and simple...if, anything, it's a safety percaution....it has happened before and you can't say it won't happen this time, because it easily could.

[rastawolf]

So anyways, I'm gonna have a grand f'in time in about 134 days. How bout everybody else?

[dmbpromoguy]

Either u 2 don't have very many shows under your belts and you have not experienced a truly unified crowd yet...or...your just that stuck up...sorry..im not trying to be mean but come on...sounds a little "I have row 2 and you have row 16 so don't evrn try to get into my space..."
YES YES YES YES YES YES IT IS I have row 2 and you have row 16. Thats why on my ticket is printed a certain row and on your ticket is printed a certain row. For fuck sakes DMB could have made it a general admission floor if they wanted to, the gorge allows this. and no they wouldnt be faced with overselling it because tehy limit the amount of tickets they sell for the floor area. Just like they limit the amount of tickets for the lawn, the lawn is GA and they cap it at 12 000ish they dont keep selling lawn tickets forever and ever just because its GA. Theyknow 12000 people can fit therefore we sell 12000 tickets.

Isnt it funny though that its people at the back that wish to initiate chair folding so they can move forward, so its them wanting to invade the space of people ahead of them. I have never in my life been to a show when someone infront of me folded their chair and motioned for people to move forward, but rather its someone in the back who insists on coming forward. If you want the crowd experience than turn around and look back, see the green, go there. Oh but wait no you want to get closer AND get to dance like a fool, thats just gettin greedy!

[dmbpromoguy]

sounds like to me that your most worried about whats going on w/ you 5$ metal folding chair...if u were on ly there for the music u wouldnt care where u where in the crowd and who was in front of you and how unfair it is.....:devil
If you were only there for the music yourself you wouldnt mind going to the lawn, or the parking lot even

[jenniferlee]

Woke up this morning...feeling the same...wish there was a way to please everyone...as always....not gonna happen i guess....

[dmbpromoguy]

ummmmm......... you arent really looking for a way to please everyone, but rather a way to please yourself. You didnt get any support in here really for the chair folding rant. There is an easy way to please everyone.

People who want to have their own space without being pushed around by others and those who like to have a defined area to call their own may purchase a seat in the reserved area. Thus giving them exclusive use of the 3 foot square area where their seat sec and row #'s are located.

People who want to flail about, be part of the mass mob crowd, and who wish to have a communal experience with other people may purchase tickets to sit on the lawn.

Does anyone else think this is a good solution to the problem, a solution that really meets everyones needs????


Its too bad the Gorge cant have a set up like Red Rocks....

Stage
reserved
GA
reserved
GA

Ah well, tough shit, its the Gorge

[dman0808]

Its too bad the Gorge cant have a set up like Red Rocks....

Stage
reserved
GA
reserved
GA

Ah well, tough shit, its the Gorge

Red Rocks is usually set up

stage
GA
reserved
GA

[rapunzelchick]

I'll do one better. Touch my chair, and I'm going fucking Mick Foley on you, and bashing your hippie head in with said chair.

Have a wonderful day, peace and love and lots of tree hugging!
Whoa! Take it easy!

[dmbpromoguy]

Red Rocks is usually set up

stage
GA
reserved
GA

Hmmmm ah well the seating chart I saw was...

1 row handicapped/Reserved
1 row Reserved
GA
about 30 rows Reserved
GA

doesnt matter you got my point:)

[FubarMichy]

I cannot wait for Gorge... woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rastawolf]

for a long time gorge vet........ C row 11 seat 29 whats your take?

I was just watching the Gorge Special, remembered seeing you post a bunch about how your seat is. Well, here's a good picture of where you'll be. Looks pretty far to the side but you'll get a good view of Dave, Stefan & Roi. :thumbsup

Zoom in on it, you'll obviously be on the left hand side. The row just out of view in Sec B would be row 11. So you can follow where it would curve around.

[kelme]

I was just watching the Gorge Special, remembered seeing you post a bunch about how your seat is. Well, here's a good picture of where you'll be. Looks pretty far to the side but you'll get a good view of Dave, Stefan & Roi. :thumbsup

Zoom in on it, you'll obviously be on the left hand side. The row just out of view in Sec B would be row 11. So you can follow where it would curve around.

got any pics of sec b row 30ish? and how much general admission space is there in comparison to the reserved seating? making the trip from dallas for my first gorge show:)

[dmbpromoguy]

got any pics of sec b row 30ish? and how much general admission space is there in comparison to the reserved seating? making the trip from dallas for my first gorge show:)
6 000 reserved
12 000 lawn GA

[rastawolf]

got any pics of sec b row 30ish? and how much general admission space is there in comparison to the reserved seating? making the trip from dallas for my first gorge show:)

There's a lot of lawn. This picture really isn't that skewed.
http://www.hob.com/venues/concerts/gorge/seating.asp

The lawn goes all the way up to the trees, viewed from beginning of lawn, top of terrace walkway.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/2625/lilith3.jpg

Same spot but looking @ the stage
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/2625/lilith4.jpg

If you really zoom in you can see row 30
http://www.hob.com/pics/slideshow/gorge/10.jpg

[kelme]

If you really zoom in you can see row 30
http://www.hob.com/pics/slideshow/gorge/10.jpg


so i take it that thing with the blue roof is the soundstage? anyone know what row that thing starts at? thanks for the pics. it helped a lot.

[uofmjess]

i don't care where i sit as long as i'm there!

[Mickey Carson]

i don't care where i sit as long as i'm there!
Exactly...I've seen Dave 3 times at the Gorge and have been in lawn each time...I'm pumped to be seeing him 3 more times this year at the Gorge, with 2 nights in the reserved section. Good times.

It'll be nice to be in reserved so that if the speakers on the lawn go tits up like they did 2 years ago I'll still be able to hear something :)

[jenniferlee]

so i take it that thing with the blue roof is the soundstage? anyone know what row that thing starts at? thanks for the pics. it helped a lot.
soundstage starts at about row 40..in between sec b and c

[rastawolf]

so i take it that thing with the blue roof is the soundstage? anyone know what row that thing starts at? thanks for the pics. it helped a lot.

That's the soundboard, prob ~row40-45.

I have a ton of good pics on my comp. I wish I could get to them. I've got one good enough where you can almost find your exact seat. Oh well.

[dmbpromoguy]

That's the soundboard, prob ~row40-45.

I have a ton of good pics on my comp. I wish I could get to them. I've got one good enough where you can almost find your exact seat. Oh well.
we would all love it if you could get to them :)

[chris917]

just imagine a 3 night stand with no repeats, you think thats going to happen this year?

[Mickey Carson]

just imagine a 3 night stand with no repeats, you think thats going to happen this year?
There will be some repeats...I imagine the setlists will be more like the 2002 Gorge run...a few repeats every night from the new album. Good times.

[6224321]

Beat this...I am flying from South Africa via London to get to the Gorge for a three night run. I land in New York and intend to hitchhike/bus to the Gorge. And I have no fucking idea where it is.

But it will be totally worth it...

[rastawolf]

Beat this...I am flying from South Africa via London to get to the Gorge for a three night run. I land in New York and intend to hitchhike/bus to the Gorge. And I have no fucking idea where it is.

But it will be totally worth it...

Haha, OK. I hope you give yourself enough time to hitch 2,500 miles. You'd need to head West to get there btw.

[pichtd]

Beat this...I am flying from South Africa via London to get to the Gorge for a three night run. I land in New York and intend to hitchhike/bus to the Gorge. And I have no fucking idea where it is.

But it will be totally worth it...
It is a six hour flight from New York, so have fun trying to hitch hike.

[Duckyguy]

Exactly...I've seen Dave 3 times at the Gorge and have been in lawn each time...I'm pumped to be seeing him 3 more times this year at the Gorge, with 2 nights in the reserved section. Good times.

It'll be nice to be in reserved so that if the speakers on the lawn go tits up like they did 2 years ago I'll still be able to hear something :)

Wait the speakers failed on the lawn in '02? I hadn't heard about that.

Glad I was in reserved. :monkey

[mihighdavehead]

Reserved at Gorge = the only option.
I have never sat lawn in my five years of seeing DMB at the Gorge. I have seen how early people line up just to get into the lawn and it doesn't look fun, especially when it is hot. Even if you are at the back of reserved seating, at least you don't have to arrive 5-6 hours before the show.

[rastawolf]

Yeah, it sucks sitting in the blazing sun all day, esp if you like to get fuzzy for showtime. Just tires you out. But otherwise, I don't agree. Reserved is def my favorite place to be but lawn can be sweet too. Last year, Night2, I had a couple of friends go in early & save a spot. But they only went in like 2 hours before the show started & we had a sweet spot at the bottom of the lawn above the walkway(above the terrace). I had one of the best times ever that night. Especially w/ the view, sun setting over the Gorge, seeing all of the people below you. It was money. So this year, I decided to get Reserve, Lawn, Reserved.

First night, you're right, reserved is sweet b/c you don't have to worry about getting there early, esp after the drive up there. Lawn is a nice change for the Sat show, just relaxing, letting the weekend get into full swing. Sunday, gotta have a good reserved seat to end the weekend, hopefully it'll be a sweet show to cap off the run.

[Mickey Carson]

Wait the speakers failed on the lawn in '02? I hadn't heard about that.

Glad I was in reserved. :monkey
Yeah I heard there were problems all 3 nights...but I can only speak for sure about Saturday.

During the midway point in Two Step the speakers began to cut out. No sound for 20 seconds, sound again for 5 seconds, no sound for 10 seconds...shit like that. During Cry Freedom and What You Are they were totally fucked up so it was hard to hear anything. The crowd would cheer when they came back on just to have them go back out again.

It sucked balls.

[dmbpromoguy]

So here is a question...... From looking at other seating maps of other venues it seems like the reserved seating at the gorge is notnearly as deep as others. I mean some venues have sections 100, 200, 300, 400, and in the 100's there are rows P and Q.

For example Toronto Molsom Am sec 102 and 202 have a total of 40 rows... count in 303 and 405/6 there are a total of about 70 rows of seats from the front row (A) of 102 to the back row (O)of 406.

at the Gorge there are 55 rows...

I dunno just from looking at all the maps and seating charts the gorge reserved section seems much smaller or compact than all others. I've never been to an outdoor event so I have nothing to compare to. Except for that I see people not happy with having tix in row 40..... where as a comparason people are really happy to have sec seats in the back of sec 202 of toronto, which with the break between 102 and 202 means they are actually farther away than 40 rows. I dunno, i just find it odd.

People think toronto 202 row U is decent while gorge row 40 is bad..... I would think that toronto 406 row O is bad!!! thats some 70 rows back.

[Duckyguy]

Arena shows have stadium seating, so you still get a decent view, just sitting higher.

The gorge only has fold out chairs on a big slab of concrete. If you are shorter and behind some tall people, you're screwed from seeing.

[rastawolf]

I've never been to another big amp either but I def wouldn't bitch about row 40 @ Gorge unless I was in the far outside seat on either side. They're good seats, but I think that @ the Gorge especially, just b/c of the atmosphere, people really want to be close so row 40 does become a "sucky" seat. The closest I've been yet will be 9/5 this year in row 22 & I'm super stoked. But I had no prob buying somebody's WH tix for row 34 on Friday. Row 34 is great as far as I'm concerned. Though maybe I've got a diff view from most b/c one show I sat at the VERY top of the lawn & it sucked.

[dmbpromoguy]

I dont see the appeal of the lawn just yet. never been to an outdoor event, never been to an event with a rush GA section, never been to an event on a grass lawn.... I think I'm gonna end up giving up my row 24 seat (worse out of my 3 nights) half way through the show on sunday and head into the lawn just to see what its like.

[rastawolf]

I dont see the appeal of the lawn just yet. never been to an outdoor event, never been to an event with a rush GA section, never been to an event on a grass lawn.... I think I'm gonna end up giving up my row 24 seat (worse out of my 3 nights) half way through the show on sunday and head into the lawn just to see what its like.

That's what's nice. You can just go chill up on the lawn & watch the sun set on the entire area & then go back down to your seat if you feel like it.

[dmbpromoguy]

That's what's nice. You can just go chill up on the lawn & watch the sun set on the entire area & then go back down to your seat if you feel like it.
I was gonna do the opposite, do the first half of the show in reserved then the 2nd half on the lawn with friends. I cant imagine it would be easy to get back to my seat smack in the middle of section A.... literally smack in the middle

[rastawolf]

I hear ya. But what I'm saying is it's a waste to miss the sunset if you're gonna go up to the lawn at all. The view is completely diff from the reserved section and even the bottom of the lawn. It's a spectacular view. Never gets old. If you're going to all 3 shows, you should at least catch the sunset from up top once.

[rastawolf]

You can partially see the difference in these pics.



http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/2625/gorge10.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/2625/gorge11.jpg

[mihighdavehead]

The sun is going to set well before the band gets on stage this year because the shows are in Sept. In 2002 the shows were almost the same dates as this year and the sun was gone at 8:20 when the band came on. Dave even made a point of telling the crowd on Friday that they were coming on early the next day to try to get part of the sunset. Last year the shows were early Aug. dates and the timing was perfect. :cool: The sun set around 8:15 and minutes later the band followed. My point is that if you have reserved you can still see the sunset from up top and have time to get back to your seat.

[dmbpromoguy]

The sun is going to set well before the band gets on stage this year because the shows are in Sept. In 2002 the shows were almost the same dates as this year and the sun was gone at 8:20 when the band came on. Dave even made a point of telling the crowd on Friday that they were coming on early the next day to try to get part of the sunset. Last year the shows were early Aug. dates and the timing was perfect. :cool: The sun set around 8:15 and minutes later the band followed. My point is that if you have reserved you can still see the sunset from up top and have time to get back to your seat.
They have gone and changed the time of the shows this year and bumped it up an hour though. Originally start time was 7:00 then assumng DMB would be on a little over an hour later, but a couple weeks ago (and printed on the tickets) the start time is 6:00, so we could assume DMB wouldbe on well before 8:00.

Gates open @ 3:00 ticket start time says 6:00, Mraz starts 6:30ish, DMB 7:30-7:45 is my guess.

[kasquith]

I've only been seeing shows since '02, but the routine is usually:

7pm to 740pm opener
740pm to 810pm change over
anywhere from 815pm to 830pm DMB hits the stage... closer to 830 in 2003

Assuming Mraz doesn't do a longer set, I'm guessing DMB will be on stage by 730pm at the latest. How does that time with sunsets?

[kasquith]

I dunno just from looking at all the maps and seating charts the gorge reserved section seems much smaller or compact than all others. I've never been to an outdoor event so I have nothing to compare to. Except for that I see people not happy with having tix in row 40..... where as a comparason people are really happy to have sec seats in the back of sec 202 of toronto, which with the break between 102 and 202 means they are actually farther away than 40 rows. I dunno, i just find it odd.

People think toronto 202 row U is decent while gorge row 40 is bad..... I would think that toronto 406 row O is bad!!! thats some 70 rows back.

It's all perspective... people just like feeling they are better off than the vast majority of others :) It's true. Anywhere in the 200s is "good" for a larger pavilion like Toronto, yet the Gorge equivalent is "bad".

Similarly, getting row 40 on an arena floor puts you almost at the back and it kinda sucks. But row 40 at a massive place like Hershey is not bad -- considering the whole GA section is still behind you.

[dmb_41_sd]

Just to throw it out there, could they be changing things up this year and start doing 2 sets again? Hit the stage a little earlier than in the past with a break somewhere in the middle and then commin back and doin another half. Then the shows would end at a somewhat similar time compared to the past years. Not likely, i know, but I'd be up for it. It'd be a nice change.

[kgiles21]

Just to throw it out there, could they be changing things up this year and start doing 2 sets again? Hit the stage a little earlier than in the past with a break somewhere in the middle and then commin back and doin another half. Then the shows would end at a somewhat similar time compared to the past years. Not likely, i know, but I'd be up for it. It'd be a nice change.

it would be nice to see that but, i highly doubt it.. all though i could go for a restroom break in the middle of the concert!
--kyle

[kgiles21]

It's all perspective... people just like feeling they are better off than the vast majority of others :) It's true. Anywhere in the 200s is "good" for a larger pavilion like Toronto, yet the Gorge equivalent is "bad".

Similarly, getting row 40 on an arena floor puts you almost at the back and it kinda sucks. But row 40 at a massive place like Hershey is not bad -- considering the whole GA section is still behind you.
how many rows is the pavillion at the gorge?

[Mickey Carson]

how many rows is the pavillion at the gorge?
About 45 rows in Sections A & C. About 55 rows in Section B.

[NateBOI]

I'll be there... 3rd year in a row! I'm coming up from Boise on Thursday. If anyone's coming through southern Idaho then, let's caravan.

[NateBOI]

Assuming Mraz doesn't do a longer set, I'm guessing DMB will be on stage by 730pm at the latest. How does that time with sunsets?

There's about enough daylight for the first song... or half the first song. In 2002 they started the second show a little early so they could film Grace is Gone. It was still only early by about 1/2 hour though. ... so about sunset... time for heaven to shine.

[dmbpromoguy]

There's about enough daylight for the first song... or half the first song. In 2002 they started the second show a little early so they could film Grace is Gone. It was still only early by about 1/2 hour though. ... so about sunset... time for heaven to shine.
What were sayin though is that this year start times were bumped up a full hour compared to years past..... unless the ticketed start time in previous years has said 6:00 as well.....

[dmb_41_sd]

What were sayin though is that this year start times were bumped up a full hour compared to years past..... unless the ticketed start time in previous years has said 6:00 as well.....

nope, they said 7:00

[dmbpromoguy]

So its definatly possible for things to all get going an hour earlier...... meanin the potential for a longer show...... The only thing that could top it off is if the 02 gorge run video turned out so crappy that they havnt released it because they plan on refilming it this year........ ahhhhh..... to dream......

[dmb_41_sd]

haha, that's even further out there than my 2 sets idea. ah well, we can dream right?

[dmbpromoguy]

haha, that's even further out there than my 2 sets idea. ah well, we can dream right?
I got bored in the SPAC thread I just had to come in here:p .......

But hey its not all too far off really:rolleyes: The 3rd date was added after the main dates were announced.... the shows are on a major long weekend..... there are 3 of them for cryin out loud, surely to god they would be able to get footage 1 of 3 nights. We know/suspect/assume/think..... the 02 footage crapped out, so why not make another go at it : ) And they bumped up the shows a full hour to a ticketed 6pm start......


Does anyone staying at wildhorse wanna rent a big ol inflatable castle :bounce

[plori]

So anyways, I'm gonna have a grand f'in time in about 134 days. How bout everybody else?
damn straight. this is my first year coming to the gorge and i'm thrilled!

[DollyLlama]

Ya know, one of these days I'm going to have to just bite the bullet and go to a Gorge show. Camping in WA would be a bitchin enough vacation as it is, DMB or not. Too bad I only have a couple of friends who would drive an hour to go see DMB, much less go 2 timezones away.

[dmbpromoguy]

Ya know, one of these days I'm going to have to just bite the bullet and go to a Gorge show. Camping in WA would be a bitchin enough vacation as it is, DMB or not. Too bad I only have a couple of friends who would drive an hour to go see DMB, much less go 2 timezones away.
I'm driving solo 11 hours :) Pickin up a couple of strangers in Seattle while I'm at it!

[Cordevil95]

OK... I think I'm going to the Gorge too! :D

[uofmjess]

i always have a problem finding people to go to shows with b/c there are never any shows within 3 hours of memphis

[dmbpromoguy]

i always have a problem finding people to go to shows with b/c there are never any shows within 3 hours of memphis
Closest show to Calgary since 1998 (last calgary show) is a fun filled 11 hour drive to either Vancouver or the Gorge

[on41greyst]

I only have tickets for fri I still need sat and sun if anyone can help e-mail me at on41greyst@yahoo.com

[ModestMouse2003]

i always have a problem finding people to go to shows with b/c there are never any shows within 3 hours of memphis

try within 13hrs from my home town

[mihighdavehead]

Just not right to have this thread on page 2...

[jordonh]

try within 13hrs from my home town

pretty close for me too

[uofmjess]

try within 13hrs from my home town

well i guess i shouldn't be complaining that much then...but the gorge is as far from memphis in the continental u.s.a. as you can get.

[maker75]

I'm flying in from Philly PA with a bunch of friends. Thank god for dividend miles. Does anyone know of any hotels with rooms at Moses Lake area?

[Mickey Carson]

I'm flying in from Philly PA with a bunch of friends. Thank god for dividend miles. Does anyone know of any hotels with rooms at Moses Lake area?
I know that the Best Western in Moses Lake was sold out almost immediately. Not sure about other hotels in the area...good luck.

[maker75]

Have you ever heard of the Oasis Budget Inn? I'm taking my brand new wife for our honeymoon for all three shows. I was told its in the same area as the Motel 6 and Best Western. E-mail me at ncastiello@hamiltonlane.com.

Thanks - Norm

[rapunzelchick]

I'm flying in from Philly PA with a bunch of friends. Thank god for dividend miles. Does anyone know of any hotels with rooms at Moses Lake area?
Moses Lake is completely booked. I had AAA help me and the closest we got was in Wenatchee.

[maker75]

Hey, what's up? I heard the Oasis Budget Inn at Moses Lake has room. Have you ever heard of that hotel?

[Rob D]

who cares where you stay...all you're doing is sleeping there. if you get a room, take it.

[dmbpromoguy]

who cares where you stay...all you're doing is sleeping there. if you get a room, take it.
Thats pretty much the way I see it too, considering all major hotel/motels were fully booked within hours of the tour dates being release, I would be thankful you found any business with the words "hotel, motel, inn, bed" it its name and has something available. Take it quick before someone else does!

[maker75]

Trust me, I know that, but tell that to my wife of two months for a delayed honeymoon!

[dmbpromoguy]

well she does have a choice........

the noname inn that nobody knows about, but it has beds..... or so we assume.

or

a farmers field with a tent and 10 000 other people

[mihighdavehead]

Wenatchee has some decent hotels and the city is pretty nice.

[rapunzelchick]

Wenatchee has some decent hotels and the city is pretty nice.
That's the closest room we could get, at the Best Western. I'm glad to hear it's a nice city.

How long do you think it takes to get from the venue to Wenatchee?

[mihighdavehead]

That's the closest room we could get, at the Best Western. I'm glad to hear it's a nice city.

How long do you think it takes to get from the venue to Wenatchee?
Its nice because there are a bunch of restaurants, Target, Old Navy, etc. Its like a suburb in the middle of nowhere.
I stood there last year and it takes about 30-40 minutes. Just watch out for the pigs :babe driving back at night. The roads are dark and they like to hide. Its a pretty scenic drive during the day.

[rapunzelchick]

Its nice because there are a bunch of restaurants, Target, Old Navy, etc. Its like a suburb in the middle of nowhere.
I stood there last year and it takes about 30-40 minutes. Just watch out for the pigs :babe driving back at night. The roads are dark and they like to hide. Its a pretty scenic drive during the day.
30-40 minutes? That's not bad at all! Mind you, it's not as easy as the 8 blocks from Alpine to The Country Inn & Suites, but from looking at the map I was definitely thinking it would be an hour if not two.

What do you think the traffic will be like before the show? Is it like Alpine where it gets backed up for miles on the highway?

Might be worth bringing the radar detector along since we'll be doing other traveling during the 3 days both before and after the shows, too. Unless the airport security will have an issue with it being in my bag....damn terrorists!

[jenniferlee]

:)30-40 minutes? That's not bad at all! Mind you, it's not as easy as the 8 blocks from Alpine to The Country Inn & Suites, but from looking at the map I was definitely thinking it would be an hour if not two.

What do you think the traffic will be like before the show? Is it like Alpine where it gets backed up for miles on the highway?

Might be worth bringing the radar detector along since we'll be doing other traveling during the 3 days both before and after the shows, too. Unless the airport security will have an issue with it being in my bag....damn terrorists!The traffic isn't too bad getting in if you leave early enough...arrive a couple hours before the show..More cops when u arrive than when u leave...Takes a little longer to get out of the lot after the show but once you get on the freeway it's easy sailing....
BTW...Hi!!!:) :bounce :)

[rapunzelchick]

:)The traffic isn't too bad getting in if you leave early enough...arrive a couple hours before the show..More cops when u arrive than when u leave...Takes a little longer to get out of the lot after the show but once you get on the freeway it's easy sailing....
BTW...Hi!!!:) :bounce :)
Well, we're hoping to arrive early and have that funky tea party of our own with these cool cats from Portland. :D

[jenniferlee]

Well, we're hoping to arrive early and have that funky tea party of our own with these cool cats from Portland. :D

Can't Wait!!!!!!!!!!:bounce :bounce :bounce How many days now???

[rapunzelchick]

Can't Wait!!!!!!!!!!:bounce :bounce :bounce How many days now???
115. :)

[mihighdavehead]

What do you think the traffic will be like before the show? Is it like Alpine where it gets backed up for miles on the highway?

The way that you will come in from Wanatchee is different than people that are coming from I-90. Traffic is not a problem until you get close, usually near Wildhorse is where the road backs up. Its not bad at all.

[jenniferlee]

115. :)Man..I have to get thru Bonnaroo first..Well not really get thru..AAAHHHHH Summer Show overload!!!!:multi :multi

[rapunzelchick]

So here's a typical midwestern girl question:

Are there MOSQUITOS in Washington State?

[rapunzelchick]

AAAHHHHH Summer Show overload!!!!
No such thing! ;)

[dmbpromoguy]

So here's a typical midwestern girl question:

Are there MOSQUITOS in Washington State?
hmmm..... I dont know, it is however rattlesnake country.

[rapunzelchick]

hmmm..... I dont know, it is however rattlesnake country.
:eek: Whoa! Don't get many of those up here! :ugh:

[dmbpromoguy]

:eek: Whoa! Don't get many of those up here! :ugh:
The gorge is in a fairly dry desert, but yeah its rattlesnake country, nothin to worry about really unless you plan on walking through the dirt/grass out in a field barefoot or somethin. I CANT WAIT TO GO TO THE GORGE

[Rob D]

if you get bit i'll suck the poison out for you...

[dmbpromoguy]

Does it matter where we get bit, or do you still suck anything anywhere anytime?

[dmbpromoguy]

Saturday Lawn tx are again available on Ticketmaster for the Gorge they just came back up either yesterday or today.

[rapunzelchick]

nothin to worry about really unless you plan on walking through the dirt/grass out in a field barefoot or somethin. I CANT WAIT TO GO TO THE GORGE
But I should be okay within the venue itself, right? I tend to be barefoot at most shows - makes it easier for me to dance freely. (I know, I know, damn hippies :rolleyes: !)

[mihighdavehead]

Barefoot is okay in the venue, just make sure you watch your step while using the Honey Bucket.

[rapunzelchick]

Barefoot is okay in the venue, just make sure you watch your step while using the Honey Bucket.
:lol Will do. I usually only have them off when I'm at my official seat, not while walking around (I learned the hard way).

[marhoochia]

Is anyone staying at Getty's ... I thought thats where all the Ants people were staying?

[jenniferlee]

But I should be okay within the venue itself, right? I tend to be barefoot at most shows - makes it easier for me to dance freely. (I know, I know, damn hippies :rolleyes: !)
barefoot is great for dancing in the shows...but he's right about watching your step..lawn or reserved people tend to leave a little of whatever they have behind :)
There are mosquitos but you won't have to worry about them since your not camping...never deen a snake up there though:)

[uofmjess]

i'm staying at vantage. is that close to any of the other campgrounds?

[mihighdavehead]

Vantage is right where the highway crosses the river.

[jenniferlee]

No...Vantage is about a 10 minute drive from the venue...Nicest of all campgrounds though as far as partying and the accomodations

[uofmjess]

thanks...i'm so psyched about going..i'm just worried about getting all my camping gear on the plane. will they let you take tents with metal poles on the plane as long as it's in the cargo part? how does everyone else get all their crap on the plane??

[mihighdavehead]

No...Vantage is about a 10 minute drive from the venue...
:confused: :confused: :confused:
http://www.vantagewa.com/index.html

Edit:vantage is where the highway crosses the river...

[jenniferlee]

whats confusing?? u dont like vantage??

[mihighdavehead]

whats confusing?? u dont like vantage??

read up^^^^

[jenniferlee]

I've been to vantage...The people that run it are awesome...Store, showers, never a noise restriction in the umpteen times I've been there, river soooo close, especially if you have a boat and campfire pits for evening fires...Very cool place...

[jenniferlee]

I've been to vantage...The people that run it are awesome...Store, showers, never a noise restriction in the umpteen times I've been there, river soooo close, especially if you have a boat and campfire pits for evening fires...Very cool place...
Shady w/ trees during the day too

[rapunzelchick]

4 days since a post on here!? :eek:

Anyone put in a request for the WH hotel package?

Only 108 days, people!!!:bounce :multi :bounce

[mihighdavehead]

Anyone put in a request for the WH hotel package?

I thought about it, but it is so much more expensive than the room I already have reserved. I couldn't justify spending $160 more....

[scoot_14]

4 days since a post on here!? :eek:

Anyone put in a request for the WH hotel package?

Only 108 days, people!!!:bounce :multi :bounce

I did, I'm hoping I got it. If so I'll pick up tickets for the first night, right now I only plan on going 2nd and 3rd.

[AudreyM]

I thought about it, but it is so much more expensive than the room I already have reserved. I couldn't justify spending $160 more....

I checked out the BW when the fake dates were posted, and there was nothing available, so, I knew something was up. I ended up finding a single room a few hours later after much searching. I took it for $95 Cdn/night, $105 Cdn after you factor in the roll-away bed. I put in for the WH package and requested a room with 2 beds which costs $120 US a night. Much more $$$ than the regular cost of a room, but if we're all comfy, I suppose it's worth it.....

A.

[matradtk]

4 days since a post on here!? :eek:

Anyone put in a request for the WH hotel package?

Only 108 days, people!!!:bounce :multi :bounce

I would but I already booked my hotel room. Plus my room is way cheaper, and it has free laundry and a jacuzzi in my room. It sounds like a great place to be since the band will be staying there. It should be a huge party! :thumbsup :)

[rapunzelchick]

It sounds like a great place to be since the band will be staying there. It should be a huge party! :thumbsup :)
Well, the WH still says "processing" but my credit card charge has gone through - completely, not the provisional charge. Hope that's good news! :)

[scoot_14]

I was confirmed today for the Warehouse hotel rooms, if anyone's interested their order should be done processing now.

[rapunzelchick]

I was confirmed today for the Warehouse hotel rooms.Me too! :bounce :multi :bounce

[ziggyosk]

I got screwed once again!

[canyonfool]

Confirmed!

[AudreyM]

Damn! Declined.

[dmbpromoguy]

I BOUGHT MY NEW CAR!!!!!! IAN HAS A NICE RIDE DOWN TO THE GORGE NOW!!!!

http://storage.msn.com/s1pZ8pl_R1n1zEQBkOLPh6977uOJ2zznU_wLX6gNrY8k-s9LCm7pbT63UlxIIucJfA2oBGVcqUXFSi9z9mddNSEFA/00.jpg?MdToken=821141920664581

[pichtd]

Finally got my spot reserved at Getty's. I'll be in spot 58. :multi

[domi00360]

Anyone get lucky enough to get a room through warehouse? Any chance you haven't cancelled your previous hotel reservations?

If anyone knows of anyone that has an extra room at any of the hotels in moses lake, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

Ryan
ryan@mortgagesonmain.com

[rapunzelchick]

Anyone get lucky enough to get a room through warehouse? Any chance you haven't cancelled your previous hotel reservations?

If anyone knows of anyone that has an extra room at any of the hotels in moses lake, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

Ryan
ryan@mortgagesonmain.com
We got the WH room and have not yet cancelled our other room...but the other room isn't in Moses Lake, it's in Wenatchee. If you're interested PM me.

[mihighdavehead]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
rapunzelchick, everytime I see your sig I get excited cause those are the shows I'm going to as well :cool:

[rapunzelchick]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
rapunzelchick, everytime I see your sig I get excited cause those are the shows I'm going to as well :cool:
I get pretty damn excited myself! :)
I wonder how many Ants have the exact same shows scheduled...I know Crumbo does.
See you in 23, 73 and 100 days!:multi

[il bacio dolce]

Just wanted to call attention to the "want ad" in my sig. I'm not taking my boyfriend, because well, I won't be able to get away with anything. :-P

[dmbpromoguy]

ISO: Pittsburgh-area DMB fan to join me on trip to Gorge in '05. PM or catch me on AIM if interestedGorge in '05..... thinking ahead are we

[JanelleM]

Only 100 days away! Right?

[il bacio dolce]

:lol I really wanted to do it this year, in fact I requested tickets, had travel buddies, all kinda stuff like that, then found out I couldn't because of school and money. Next year I really hope I get to. Don't make fun of me!

[rapunzelchick]

Only 100 days away! Right?
Right you are!!!! :bounce :multi :bounce

[dmb_41_sd]

I get pretty damn excited myself! :)
I wonder how many Ants have the exact same shows scheduled...I know Crumbo does.
See you in 23, 73 and 100 days!:multi

I'm going to those shows as well, plus deer creek. Close enough.

[#36firedancer]

100 DAYS!!!

:bounce

[rapunzelchick]

I'm going to those shows as well, plus deer creek. Close enough.
Even better!

[WestCoastDMBGrl]

I am goin 2 my first dave concert...me,my boyfriend and some friends are going! what day are all of you guys going on? we're going on the 4th...gonna prolly get there friday(gonna leave eairly friday morning)then pack it up sunday morning and head out...We're comming from Oregon

[rapunzelchick]

I am goin 2 my first dave concert...me,my boyfriend and some friends are going! what day are all of you guys going on? we're going on the 4th...gonna prolly get there friday(gonna leave eairly friday morning)then pack it up sunday morning and head out...We're comming from Oregon
Welcome to Ants! :hug

I can obviously only speak for myself...my boyfriend and I will be there all 3 nights. We're flying out from Minnesota and doing the Seattle/B.C. thing for the week before the shows.

Congrats on your first show...you're going to have a blast...you'll be hooked for life!

[OCMarsh]

Wife and I and friends are going to all 3 nights. For us, its a capper to our vacation. We will be camping in Central Oregon for a week then leave early Friday morning from our campsite for Central Washington and a hotel. Can't wait.:)

[JanelleM]

Under 100 days!! Woo hoo. Although Alpine is first for me so I am more excited for that as of right now :thumbsup

[jenniferlee]

Welcome from a fellow Oregonian WestCoastDMBGrl!! Your first show being at the Gorge will be amazing!! Try to arrive on Thursday if you can...Easier to set up and all...Friday is hectic with alot of traffic coming in...Love to see ya there!!
Jen:bounce :bounce


I am goin 2 my first dave concert...me,my boyfriend and some friends are going! what day are all of you guys going on? we're going on the 4th...gonna prolly get there friday(gonna leave eairly friday morning)then pack it up sunday morning and head out...We're comming from Oregon

[dmbpromoguy]

We have more Gorge news!!!!

A double opener!!!
First Jem, then Mraz, then DMB! That along with the Side Stage of Ari, this should be a rockin weekend!

4 Artists!

[pichtd]

That is great news.

[Mickey Carson]

We have more Gorge news!!!!

A double opener!!!
First Jem, then Mraz, then DMB! That along with the Side Stage of Ari, this should be a rockin weekend!

4 Artists!
Awesome news. That helps explain the 6pm start time as well.

[dmbpromoguy]

Why its turning into a mini festie :) lol

[JanelleM]

We have more Gorge news!!!!

A double opener!!!
First Jem, then Mraz, then DMB! That along with the Side Stage of Ari, this should be a rockin weekend!

4 Artists!
Very cool!! It is like a little festival. I can't wait!

[uofmjess]

what exactly is a side stage?

[OCMarsh]

what exactly is a side stage?
Over by the beer garden, cooling tents, etc. there is a small stage for little-known bands to prime the people before the show. There is a famous mini Dave show from that stage in '02.

[stunnersal]

Over by the beer garden, cooling tents, etc. there is a small stage for little-known bands to prime the people before the show. There is a famous mini Dave show from that stage in '02.
I'm so psyched that Ari will be on the side stage!!! :thumbsup

[Rob D]

Over by the beer garden, cooling tents, etc. there is a small stage for little-known bands to prime the people before the show. There is a famous mini Dave show from that stage in '02.
yeah, that's the mraz show that dave "bogarted" on two years ago. i have that video somewhere...

[dmbpromoguy]

Anyone wanna post some ideas as to what campground amusements people should bring? 3 days in a field can get boring if you have nothing to do, so besides the obvious....

soccer ball
football
frisbee

anyone have other ideas / suggestions?

Lets face it, drunken 'slip 'n' slide' sould be awesome, but without the water hookup, it would just plain hurt :)

[rapunzelchick]

Lets face it, drunken 'slip 'n' slide' sould be awesome, but without the water hookup, it would just plain hurt :)
:lol Nice visual! :lol

I never leave home without my travel-size Scrabble. Sounds dull, I know, but helps keep the mind sharp and shows/camping always inspire really interesting words to play!

[mihighdavehead]

I never leave home without my travel-size Scrabble. Sounds dull, I know, but helps keep the mind sharp and shows/camping always inspire really interesting words to play!
:thumbsup I was gonna suggest the same.
The travel Scrabble rocks.

How about a wiffle ball and bat? Maybe a little homerun derby would be fun.

[uofmjess]

you gotta bring cards!

[vannausj]

my vote is for the game phase 10, quick cheap card game (special deck though) but entertaining and competitive, should be available at most toy stores/target etc for like $5

[stunnersal]

I say a big game of strip poker!!! :thumbsup

[rapunzelchick]

Did anyone that got confirmed for the WH hotel package get any sort of additional info from WH yet?

In the confirmation announcement email (on 5/21) it said that additional details would be sent "next week."

[cougdmbfan]

Hey,

I saw a couple of you guys talking in the gorge thread about dave's bogart on the mraz side stage show in 02. I just wanted to let you know that actually the show that he bogarted on was in the parking lot. In addition to the side stage by the beer garden there’s a little stage there where people play before the gates open. This is where Mraz was playing and Dave hopped up on stage. For those who've never been to the Gorge or didn't know about this stage, definitely be sure to check out that as well, as the people I've seen play there the years I've been have all been entertaining and as the video which so many of us have seen has shown, just about anything can happen. The Gorge weekend is gonna be great, I can’t wait! Thanks all,

Nick

[Strugz10]

Hey,

I saw a couple of you guys talking in the gorge thread about dave's bogart on the mraz side stage show in 02. I just wanted to let you know that actually the show that he bogarted on was in the parking lot. In addition to the side stage by the beer garden there’s a little stage there where people play before the gates open. This is where Mraz was playing and Dave hopped up on stage. For those who've never been to the Gorge or didn't know about this stage, definitely be sure to check out that as well, as the people I've seen play there the years I've been have all been entertaining and as the video which so many of us have seen has shown, just about anything can happen. The Gorge weekend is gonna be great, I can’t wait! Thanks all,

Nick
When I get back home to my other pc I'll try and host this vid since it is pretty entertaining and I hope Dave will do some more "bogarting" this year :)

[rastawolf]

Anyone wanna post some ideas as to what campground amusements people should bring? 3 days in a field can get boring if you have nothing to do, so besides the obvious....

soccer ball
football
frisbee

anyone have other ideas / suggestions?

Lets face it, drunken 'slip 'n' slide' sould be awesome, but without the water hookup, it would just plain hurt :)

They have elevated sprinklers & garden hoses on the big,plush, lawn @ Wildhorse. It's a flat lawn but it would totally be doable. I'm in. :thumbsup

[dmbpromoguy]

For anyone staying at wildhorse come join me over at.......

wildhorse.tribe.net (http://wildhorse.tribe.net)

[tasclaire]

Hey
I'm coming all the way from Australia for this gig, mainly for Jason Mraz but I'm a huge DMB fan as well. What is the gorge like? obviously I've never been...
I cant wait. I'm going by myself, and cos i'm a stingy traveller I'm staying at a youth hostel. I think the one in Seattle. anyone wanna give me any advice on how to get the most out of this concert? are you able to move around and mingle with the crowd? or do you have to stay where your ticket says?

[dmbpromoguy]

Hey
I'm coming all the way from Australia for this gig, mainly for Jason Mraz but I'm a huge DMB fan as well. What is the gorge like? obviously I've never been...
I cant wait. I'm going by myself, and cos i'm a stingy traveller I'm staying at a youth hostel. I think the one in Seattle. anyone wanna give me any advice on how to get the most out of this concert? are you able to move around and mingle with the crowd? or do you have to stay where your ticket says?
On the lawn you can go where you want, in the reserved section, I wouldnt suggest it, you just might get beat up :twak


And staying at a youth hostel in seattle..... dear lord, I would chec that out, most international hostels have curfews and you will not make it back to seattle in time for curfew by any means. The show will end around 11:00, you wont get out of there till 11:30 then its a 3 hour drive back to seattle, probably 4 hours due to traffic getting out of the venue, so you would be back in seattle around 3:30 am. I would seriously think about camping. Depending on when you arrive in seattle, and how many shows you are going to, and if you 'pack light' I can fit you in my car and pick you up in seattle if you are coming alone. Cost would be $50 which covers transportation cost (gas) and 3 nights camping. I'm picking other people up in Seattle at the airport around 10am on the Friday.

give me a shout if you need me.... satellite_eye@hotmail.com, come join another member of the commonwealth :) I'm Canadian.

[tasclaire]

Hey
Is it worth going all three nights? what do you do during the day?
Sounds like its awesome! I can't wait
we havent got anything like it in Aussie, we have a few festival things but they go all day and night.
Do you ever get to meet any of the guys after the shows? I wanna meet Jason Mraz! I will have come all the way from Australia and It would make my trip complete!

[dmbpromoguy]

Hey
Is it worth going all three nights? what do you do during the day?
Sounds like its awesome! I can't wait
we havent got anything like it in Aussie, we have a few festival things but they go all day and night.
Do you ever get to meet any of the guys after the shows? I wanna meet Jason Mraz! I will have come all the way from Australia and It would make my trip complete!
Hey there I just replied to your e-mail a few minutes ago....


From what I hear, its 3 days or nothing, if you go one day you will see what its like and kick yourself for not staying to see more...... or so I have been told, so I went ahead and got tix for all three days and cant wait! And hey you are traveling all this way, for a once in a lifetime opportunity..... go for it! As far as daytime activities well.... Shows end at 11, back in the campground by 12, apparantly the party continues somewhat from there. Sleep till 9 or 10, go down to the big ass river swim for a while BBQ the afternoon away, then the gates to the venue open up at 3:00 or 4:00, then you do it all again......from what I hear!

come to this website and join us in there.....

dmbgorge.tribe.net

A bunch of people going to the Gorge for DMB

[dmb_41_sd]

wow, on the 3rd page! I just got confirmed for a campsite at gettys cove, hope it's nice there, never been there and I'm hoping it's a good decision. Anyone approve or dissprove it? Please say it's good!

[NateBOI]

wow, on the 3rd page! I just got confirmed for a campsite at gettys cove, hope it's nice there, never been there and I'm hoping it's a good decision. Anyone approve or dissprove it? Please say it's good!

Getty's Cove is good. You'll enjoy it. Where's your site?

[Mickey Carson]

The show will end around 11:00, you wont get out of there till 11:30 then its a 3 hour drive back to seattle, probably 4 hours due to traffic getting out of the venue, so you would be back in seattle around 3:30 am.
That timeline is sort of correct. Out of my many trips to the Gorge...on average, it takes about 60-70 minutes to get out of the parking lot after the show has finished depending on where you parked.

And from the Gorge to Seattle is about 150 miles...which will probably take about 2.5 hours (speed limit is 70mph on I-90 and there won't be much traffic). You'll probably make it back to Seattle around 2:30am.

[OCMarsh]

That timeline is sort of correct. Out of my many trips to the Gorge...on average, it takes about 60-70 minutes to get out of the parking lot after the show has finished depending on where you parked.

And from the Gorge to Seattle is about 150 miles...which will probably take about 2.5 hours (speed limit is 70mph on I-90 and there won't be much traffic). You'll probably make it back to Seattle around 2:30am.
Did this last year. Very stupid on my part, but I waited to make hotel reservations 'til about 2 weeks before the show. Seattle was the best I could do and I checked in at about 3:00AM, dead tired.

SIDENOTE: The past two years my friends and I have just hung out on the grass while waiting for the traffic to clear out. Listening to music and playing frisbee beats sitting in your car and staring at brake lights for an hour.

[Mickey Carson]

SIDENOTE: The past two years my friends and I have just hung out on the grass while waiting for the traffic to clear out. Listening to music and playing frisbee beats sitting in your car and staring at brake lights for an hour.
Exactly

[dmb_41_sd]

Getty's Cove is good. You'll enjoy it. Where's your site?

I'm in site 37.

[rastawolf]

Man, I can't wait to see what kinda shows they're going to put on after seeing all of the new songs pop up. Damn glad they added that third date. Gonna be soooo much fun.

[Idahofyrdncr]

Hi guys
I am new to the antmarching.org group. My roomie and I are going to the Gorge, all 3 shows. this is our third year. We might fly into seattle, so maybe we can catch up with yall there. Also, i have a really dumb question but i can't find the anwser anywhere. What is the story behind the fire dancer? I love the symbol, but i don't know where is started?

[Rob D]

Hi guys
I am new to the antmarching.org group. My roomie and I are going to the Gorge, all 3 shows. this is our third year. We might fly into seattle, so maybe we can catch up with yall there. Also, i have a really dumb question but i can't find the anwser anywhere. What is the story behind the fire dancer? I love the symbol, but i don't know where is started?
good news about the gorge. you obviously understand the draw behind it all. as for the firedancer, check out the search function up top and you'll find all you need to know on its history.

[mars_dmb]

I saw some others are staying at the Best Western Ephrata! Me too!! No one heads in that direction after the concerts, so once you're out of the parking lot and on the highway, it's smooth sailing.

[uofmjess]

Question about flights...I'll be in NYC until Aug. 28 or 29 and thought it might be nice to hang out in NYC for a couple of extra days and then fly directly to seattle. I was planning on going to seattle on the 1st anyway. Could I get a flight from NYC to seattle and then return seattle-memphis?

[Mickey Carson]

I saw some others are staying at the Best Western Ephrata! Me too!! No one heads in that direction after the concerts, so once you're out of the parking lot and on the highway, it's smooth sailing.
Indeed...it's gonna be good times @ the BW in Ephrata :)

[1graceturtle]

I AM SOOOOOO EXCITED!!!!! It will be my first year at The Gorge. I am going with an even bigger Dave Head than me. We are camping at The Gorge. I hear it is one of the most beautiful places on the planet and one of the best experiences one can have in a lifetime. I look forward to seeing all the ants! I haven't visited the site in a while...I forgot how much I've missed it.
Yeah beer! Yeah pot! Yeah camping! Yeah Dave!
Much love.

[Holemandaddy]

confirmed. i am going

[vannausj]

Question about flights...I'll be in NYC until Aug. 28 or 29 and thought it might be nice to hang out in NYC for a couple of extra days and then fly directly to seattle. I was planning on going to seattle on the 1st anyway. Could I get a flight from NYC to seattle and then return seattle-memphis?

I am sure a flight like this is possible, but it is usually fairly expensive because the airline treats it as essentially 2 1-way flights. I may be wrong, but whenever I have done flights like this it is not super cheap, but it is possible.

[texasdmblvr]

:multi EXTRA GORGE TICKETS 9/4 :multi
i know this is not the right place to post this but i've listed it on the trading thread with no response..

i have 2 tickets for the gorge show 9/4
section a row 33 reserved seats if anyone is interested...
pm me ~
i'm heading to FREAKIN' canada next tuesday and will be gone for a week (woohoo spac !!)
find me soon or find me after 7/5
they are available ~ outta $$ after this trip and texas tour - no way i can make it to the gorge also :(

[pichtd]

I am sure a flight like this is possible, but it is usually fairly expensive because the airline treats it as essentially 2 1-way flights. I may be wrong, but whenever I have done flights like this it is not super cheap, but it is possible.
Not really, depends on the airline.

[dmbpromoguy]

Question about flights...I'll be in NYC until Aug. 28 or 29 and thought it might be nice to hang out in NYC for a couple of extra days and then fly directly to seattle. I was planning on going to seattle on the 1st anyway. Could I get a flight from NYC to seattle and then return seattle-memphis?


Its very possible, call around to various airlines and check their deals. Check with discount airlines first as usually they sell all of their seats as one way seats. Airlines such as Southwest for example each seat is one way, its up to you if you chose to fly back to the same place you started from.

Southwest however doesnt fly to NYC (Buffalo/LongIsland/Albany only) and they dont go to Memphis, but check around to other airlines, its very possible to do.

[texasdmblvr]

:multi EXTRA GORGE TICKETS 9/4 :multi
i know this is not the right place to post this but i've listed it on the trading thread with no response..

i have 2 tickets for the gorge show 9/4
section a row 33 reserved seats if anyone is interested...
pm me ~
i'm heading to FREAKIN' canada next tuesday and will be gone for a week (woohoo spac !!)
find me soon or find me after 7/5
they are available ~ outta $$ after this trip and texas tour - no way i can make it to the gorge also :(

try it one more time
i hate for these to go to waste ~

[pichtd]

try it one more time
i hate for these to go to waste ~
May be interested, although we have lawn that night and would need to find some spare cash.

Are they warehouse or do you know the seat #s?

[texasdmblvr]

May be interested, although we have lawn that night and would need to find some spare cash.

Are they warehouse or do you know the seat #s?

they are warehouse.. no idea yet on the seat #s..sorry

[OCMarsh]

they are warehouse.. no idea yet on the seat #s..sorry
Along these same lines I will have two extra Warehouse tix for 9/5. I think they are Sec. C row 35.

[Rob D]

why is this on the 5th page?

[OCMarsh]

why is this on the 5th page?
Don't trouble the Gorge-goers with your petty questions!! They're too busy drinking to post an answer.

[FubarMichy]

Im camping out at Wildhorse for all 3 nights.. are many Ants camping there??

[dmbpromoguy]

Im camping out at Wildhorse for all 3 nights.. are many Ants camping there??
I am along with many others....

Check out my group at...

wildhorse.tribe.net

I'm driving from Calgary Alberta and goin out of my way to Seattle to pick up two guys flying in from Cali and 1 guy flying in from TX and one girl all the way from the land of Oz.... she posted here a while back saying she was going to be staying at a hostel in Seattle.... but now she's comin to all three days and camping with us! gonna be great!

[Rob D]

Don't trouble the Gorge-goers with your petty questions!! They're too busy drinking to post an answer.
i own this thread.

[webbah]

I am along with many others....

Check out my group at...

wildhorse.tribe.net

I'm driving from Calgary Alberta and goin out of my way to Seattle to pick up two guys flying in from Cali and 1 guy flying in from TX and one girl all the way from the land of Oz.... she posted here a while back saying she was going to be staying at a hostel in Seattle.... but now she's comin to all three days and camping with us! gonna be great!

I have tickets to Saturday and Sunday's shows so am on a waiting list for the Wildhorse since we're not coming in until Saturday. Sold my Friday night tix since I can't go - bummed cause I love the Wild Horse and they said chances are very slim on getting in on Saturday. Anyone want to transfer their reservation to me?

Thanks,

JW

[uofmjess]

I'm at Vantage but aren't all these campgrounds close to each other?

[rapunzelchick]

Anyone get any additional details yet from the WH regarding their BW hotel package?

[rastawolf]

I have tickets to Saturday and Sunday's shows so am on a waiting list for the Wildhorse since we're not coming in until Saturday. Sold my Friday night tix since I can't go - bummed cause I love the Wild Horse and they said chances are very slim on getting in on Saturday. Anyone want to transfer their reservation to me?

Thanks,

JW


Just sent you a PM about your situation.

-Dan

[xDaveIsMyHerox]

i would have.. but labor day weekend..is the weekend before school starts for the fall...so i wouldn't have been able to this year. not just that, but my mom is ill..:x