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AudreyM
07-14-2004, 09:12 PM
anyone know why dave kept changing guitars after each of the first 5 or 6 songs? does he always do that? they were all 6 strings, and i wasn't aware of him using different 6 strings for different songs. maybe i'm just uninformed? it didn't look like he was breaking strings or anything either.

I'm not a guitar expert, but I'm guessing because of different tuning. I know a few songs are in dropped D (?) For some reason, he just puts on a capo for Thing, but I think the others are just switched out... <shrug>

A.

unccrombie
07-14-2004, 09:16 PM
I'm not a guitar expert, but I'm guessing because of different tuning. I know a few songs are in dropped D (?) For some reason, he just puts on a capo for Thing, but I think the others are just switched out... <shrug>

A.
crush and DDTW are in drop D and im thinking so is one of the new songs, possibly sugar will. thing is capoed on 3

mckinb
07-14-2004, 09:20 PM
anyone know why dave kept changing guitars after each of the first 5 or 6 songs? does he always do that? they were all 6 strings, and i wasn't aware of him using different 6 strings for different songs. maybe i'm just uninformed? it didn't look like he was breaking strings or anything either.

Just saying hello!
Havn't been around much, thought I'd drop you a line, wish I would've known you were at the show! Where were you sitting??

Hope all is well!
Take care
Brittany :)

chris917
07-14-2004, 09:28 PM
Dont care what anyone says this show was awesome!!

Hightlights:

Dont Drink the water: sick opener, the boys were really into it

Pig- The crowd screamed up a storm when they played this.

Hello Again- Easy to tell that Dave loves this song

Crush- Nice bass opener, Nice long jam at the end

Warehouse- Stefan had everyone on thier feet with the hooos

Ants- Dave must have broke a string on the guitar but he kepts
singing the lyrics until a guy from side stage brang him a new one.

Tripping Billies- Best encore song there is. IMO

Downers:

The new songs> everyone got up and left during the new songs. Pretty depressing.


I was hoping for: Lie in our graves, #41, The Stone



I dont know where you were, but no one around me left or sat during the new songs.

chris917
07-14-2004, 09:36 PM
Some random thoughts...


Other Notes:
Carter's bandage was shot to hell by the end of the night. I remember several people from previous shows mentioning that when he first had the bandage, they didn't shoot him much with the cameras. Well, he was by far the most covered tonight by the cameramen, and there was no sign of pain. He seemed to step it up as night went on, and Roi seemed to step in for him too throughout the night (Roi had a good night). I've seen 18 shows, and this one definitely ranks in the top 2.


Are you kidding?? You could def. tell that Carter was in pain. There was one shot of him doing a drum roll on WWYS and it was clear that he was hurting. He also didnt sing which was weird.

The Sean
07-14-2004, 10:03 PM
I dont know where you were, but no one around me left or sat during the new songs.
people around me sat and left. although i was right in the middle of the season ticket holders bunch. friggin them.

texasdmblvr
07-14-2004, 10:31 PM
http://www.live365.com/stations/whatyouare21

gotta help out the ants
every one needs to listen!!! NOW

barefoot
07-14-2004, 10:36 PM
Had a great time, solid show with alot of great moments. Sean I got your message but I accidentaly deleted it before I saved the number :BANG :twak
I will have to catch up with you at Wegmans now :)

TwoStepFF
07-14-2004, 11:37 PM
Great time up at Darien this year ( I was 2nd row dead center of Dave)
Not good trying to get out of that place..2 1/2 hours it took to get out

DMB-CRAZY
07-15-2004, 12:11 AM
I got in the door from my 8 hour drive from Darien like half an hour ago...extremely extremely tired (leaving at 6am on tuesday was probably the main problem). I'm gonna go sleep till tomorrow afternoon now :lol. I will post all my highlights of the concert tomorrow...concert was great, hope everyone had a good time!!

The Sean
07-15-2004, 12:12 AM
Had a great time, solid show with alot of great moments. Sean I got your message but I accidentaly deleted it before I saved the number :BANG :twak
I will have to catch up with you at Wegmans now :)
thursday, 1-4. i got a short shift. friday, 230-8. all in produce. if im not on the floor then im in the back room

mxz440fan
07-15-2004, 12:58 AM
Just saying hello!
Havn't been around much, thought I'd drop you a line, wish I would've known you were at the show! Where were you sitting??OH MAN!? how did we not know!?
damn. i was in section 202 (we moved up to row 5...from 7 :lol)
next year we'll have to meet up fo sho.


and, as a side note...i still am not on "the list", people.

oh yeah, my quote of the night (7/13 night), "trying to find your car is a bitch, isn't it?". i aquired 3 beers that night as a result of asking that question. :D

mckinb
07-15-2004, 01:09 AM
OH MAN!? how did we not know!?
damn. i was in section 202 (we moved up to row 5...from 7 :lol)
next year we'll have to meet up fo sho. :D


Next year for sure, I wish I would've checked the thread BEFORE I left! :BANG
I was sitting 102, row 8!

Maybe next time! In the meantime, I'll see you around, take care!

brockboi
07-15-2004, 01:18 AM
and, as a side note...i still am not on "the list", people.
hey...which "the list" is this? my "the list"?

halloween21
07-15-2004, 01:37 AM
darein is up for dl

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:40 AM
its up on etree!!!!!!

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 02:31 AM
which source? there were 2 close mics towards the stacks and one like a couple feet behind them, then a couple in the further 200s

DMBhockey32
07-15-2004, 03:43 AM
I'll be at Darien, but since there is no SPAC, I'm going to look into going to Bonnaroo


So whats this SPAC u talk of..like what does it mean? also parking for darien is horrible if u let them flag u to the very back..ur best bet is to park up front then afterwrads go to ur car and get out..but this years concert including song that jane likes and warehouse was awesome...(i always wanted to be a part of the "whooo") Hopefully better seats next year..this year section 406 row 4

Mave Datthews
07-15-2004, 10:01 AM
So whats this SPAC u talk of..like what does it mean? also parking for darien is horrible if u let them flag u to the very back..ur best bet is to park up front then afterwrads go to ur car and get out..but this years concert including song that jane likes and warehouse was awesome...(i always wanted to be a part of the "whooo") Hopefully better seats next year..this year section 406 row 4SPAC=Saratoga Performing Arts Center

btw, i see you live in NT - i live in Amherst.:)

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 01:06 PM
:lol

We have to let Matt tell that story in his own words - if he remembers!!
I'll be looking forward to it.



Matt, give it up, let us in on this :)

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 01:08 PM
OH MAN!? how did we not know!?
damn. i was in section 202 (we moved up to row 5...from 7 :lol)
next year we'll have to meet up fo sho.


and, as a side note...i still am not on "the list", people.

oh yeah, my quote of the night (7/13 night), "trying to find your car is a bitch, isn't it?". i aquired 3 beers that night as a result of asking that question. :D
I don't think there was a list, I again was not contacted. You and I will have to get our own list next time :lol

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 01:09 PM
damn all you people, I got out of the lots in 10 minutes. :thumbsup was home and in bed for work the next morning before 1am.

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:18 PM
which source? there were 2 close mics towards the stacks and one like a couple feet behind them, then a couple in the further 200s
Taper: Sanjay Suchak
Source: AKGc1000s > NJB3
Location: Left Stack
Conversion: NJB3 > Firewire > Adobe Audition 1.5 > CDWave > Flac frontend > Flac

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:19 PM
only one up so far.

oh yeah, flac-level 8

The Sean
07-15-2004, 01:20 PM
only one up so far.

oh yeah, flac-level 8
i thought i read somewhere that it was a lawn recording

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:26 PM
i thought i read somewhere that it was a lawn recording
i remember seeing that, but i think that was nissan 7.11

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:28 PM
can't find it, but there was a shotgun/lawn source out there of something. not this one though

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 01:39 PM
im only getting 1kb/sec download with 4kb/sec upload. stupid torrents

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:42 PM
im only getting 1kb/sec download with 4kb/sec upload. stupid torrents
torrents kick ass, don't they.

my hershey park d/l just finished, and nissan is only at 50%

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 01:51 PM
found it, it is for this sow. beware, it's a lawn recording, and comes wit no text. you'll find it on etree, but not on the groove

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 02:00 PM
I'm gonna wait for a better one I think

rochny89
07-15-2004, 02:00 PM
I'm going at 5 kb down and 42 kb up :confused: with no firewall

Jordan#41
07-15-2004, 02:02 PM
I submitted my e-coupon and purchased a tour shirt and poster and never got the free gift from the lady b/c she was mobbed with people buying stuff. What was the gift? anyone wanna send it to me?

dobyblue
07-15-2004, 02:09 PM
I remember seeing that one lone taper's rack in the lawns! There will be some great tapes coming of this show though. There were at least 9 racks there from when I was looking around.

Come on Matt - share your roller coasting debacle with everyone.

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 02:13 PM
I'm gonna wait for a better one I think

the lawn source is not on the groove, there is a left stack source on there. it seems like people are thinking that we're d/ling the lawn source, but there is a better one.

RiotAct
07-15-2004, 02:16 PM
Holy shit, they were going to play STAY AS THE ONLY SONG IN THE ENCORE?!?!? Thank God they replaced it w/Billies.

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 02:17 PM
the lawn source is not on the groove, there is a left stack source on there. it seems like people are thinking that we're d/ling the lawn source, but there is a better one.
ohhh yup, your right, I'll have to get on that when I get home from work then...how's the quality?

hearmorphish
07-15-2004, 02:21 PM
haven't heard it yet, but source/location info looks nice

mxz440fan
07-15-2004, 02:44 PM
ohhh yup, your right, I'll have to get on that when I get home from work then...how's the quality?
sanjack source isn't that great. not worth d/l-ing imho, there will be better ones

BrahmaBull
07-15-2004, 02:48 PM
Fuck Darien Lake, they took my Warehouse keychain...
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Bitch guard: - -"you might throw it at the band"
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Me : "The Fucking band gave it to me"

BrahmaBull
07-15-2004, 02:54 PM
I remember seeing that one lone taper's rack in the lawns! There will be some great tapes coming of this show though. There were at least 9 racks there from when I was looking around.

Come on Matt - share your roller coasting debacle with everyone.

I passed out on the Superman.. :haha

texasdmblvr
07-15-2004, 03:12 PM
Fuck Darien Lake, they took my Warehouse keychain...
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Bitch guard: - -"you might throw it at the band"
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Me : "The Fucking band gave it to me"

perfect!!!
and i was wondering on the superman ride.. did you REALLY? eek

BrahmaBull
07-15-2004, 03:17 PM
sanjack source isn't that great. not worth d/l-ing imho, there will be better ones

their were 2 on etree...at home ive got the flac one going...is this the one youre refering to?

DMB-CRAZY
07-15-2004, 03:30 PM
Ahh, nice and rested...damn all that driving wore me out to no end!
So, it was my first Darien experience...Some of the concert highlights include:

Pig - first time hearing it live...I was so excited...

STJL - second time hearing it, I could hear it every concert and not get sick of it..was it just me or did Dave screw up the first verse and sang the the second one twice? Still, it rocked

RECENTLY!!!! - I had no voice after this song...me and Jeff were hoping for Recently since TO...I was so F'in excited!!

Ants - only the second time I've heard this song...energy was incredible

I really dig the new songs...especially Hello Again and Joy Ride...which have evolved since the TO show. And Dave is scatting like a champion!!!

DMB-CRAZY
07-15-2004, 03:40 PM
Now, for the venue comments...

We drove 8 hours to Darien (left at like 6am) so me and Jeff were completed exhausted, but we're troopers and went to the venue after checking into our hotel in Batavia.
We parked on this guys lawn beside the entrance to the venue (so I didnt get to tailgate with any ANTS) but we sat listened to DMB and drank some beers.
So once in the venue, I have never seen anyone projectile vomit before in my life...but Darien broke that cherry...people puking everywhere. This girl in front of us was hanging off all these guys around her (grabbing their crotch and ass)..finally we asked one of the guys who she was with..he said no one, that she came alone and they were afraid on how she was going to get home (she was way too loaded).
The crowd around us was great..some people sat down but everyone was singing along and dancing. I didnt get to take any pics (which is sad) cause we were too close to security and I didnt want to take the chance. Anyone get any good pics?

Steve - Glad I got to see you before the show and during...CANADA KICKS ASS!!! And I got to say hi to Matt, but briefly. I sat in front of a girl who sat beside us at TO, which was cool....
Well, thats about it...my first DL concert was great..the venue is so-so. It only took us like 15 minutes to get out of the parking lot so that was a bonus....
Its sad cause DL was my last DMB show this tour :( Bring on the next tour!!!

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 04:29 PM
I passed out on the Superman.. :hahaoh my God, why!? were you that scared? ;)

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 04:32 PM
sanjack source isn't that great. not worth d/l-ing imho, there will be better ones
spanks, I'll keep that in mind:thumbsup

did anyone get video of the show at all?

mxz440fan
07-15-2004, 05:12 PM
did anyone get video of the show at all?i haven't heard anything about video, yet, and there wasn't any pre-buzz about taping, either. the way they were patting people down...it would have been tough to get one in unless it was small, but security at the show was pretty chill, they were letting people take massive amounts of pictures.

scotty12
07-15-2004, 05:28 PM
I think they should save the next DVD for whenever they have this festival they're planning (hopefully next year)

This sounds like a great plan



Wow what a shame this thread was cool for a while and then 20+ pages get hijacked by setlist freaks.

j/k
Just got in the door from Darien. Sec 305 row 8 seats 9&10
Great performance, great company, great roller coasters.
will post a piccie of BrahmaBull and myself on Viper after hitting the scanner. I am back in canada. No doubt there is still people trying to get out of Darien. ha ha!

Unbelievably - I think we were out of the lot by 11:13. Walking to the truck took longer than driving out.



To make a long story short, after accidently blowing my friend off at SPAC nite 1, Fenton saw my friend again last night at Darien after the show and called him over to the soundboard. He told my friend to write down his address and he let me give him mine as well. If Fenton was being sincere then my friend and I will be recieving the full bands autographs in the mail very soon. pretty sweet

That is fucking awesome.



The only thing I didn't like were those damn seats not flipping back. The backs of my calves are bruised to shit from dancing!

Sorry to anyone who tried to reach us through my cell phone. I left it in Canada which is not like me at all. Very sorry.

Started off the day with Superman! Wow that will wake you up in a hurry!

Those seats were crappy for dancing.
Cell phone service was BS, almost impossible to make a call. I hope that all my "attempted" calls don't show up on my bill.
Rollercoasters scare the shit out of me - I let my gf down bigtime by not riding on all of them.



I remember the first time I rode it, when it first opened, my friends dad got us VIP passes somehow, so we went the first day, and as we're climbing up the hill the train STOPS like 15 feet from the top, and sat there for a good 10 minutes. Oh my God I nearly pissed myself it was so scary sitting up there almost 200 feet high not knowing what was going on.

My heart would have stopped beating.

I was very sick throughout the whole thing (I have the beginnings of whats starting to look like pneumonia), at least security asked me if I was ok a couple times.

Overall, a good show, probably in the middle of the pack as far as my shows go. Of course the seats make everything better, and the illness makes everything worse, so who really knows.

I'm really sorry to hear this. My gf wasn't feeling well and I felt for her the whole show too.

I felt really bad for this person who was in a wheelchair trying to watch a show but these asshole kids who were high kept dancing in the aisle in front of him and actually hit his chair which was not cool. Then on of their GFs tryed to pull him back but he was like no im staying where I want to..you could see how upset the handicapped person was....Why are people assholes.

That is horse shit and would take away from me enjoying the show if I had to watch that happen - I would feel terrible just seeing it go on.

Definitely agree. We were near the front of 201 and had 6 people with All Access passes sitting next to us. They sat for most of the show, didn't know a single song, and left early.

This seems to happen alot.

Wow! That's 5931 more times than it has been played by the band.

I LOVE this post - however he may be counting DVD watching.


I dont know where you were, but no one around me left or sat during the new songs.

There was alot of sitting and/or leaving in 100. It seemed like at least half of the people in my section did.

As well, even my gf (not a DMB fan) noticed that many people didn't know the songs.

Are you kidding?? You could def. tell that Carter was in pain. There was one shot of him doing a drum roll on WWYS and it was clear that he was hurting. He also didnt sing which was weird.

I agree 100% with this - I think I noticed wincing during hello again solo to.

I have never seen anyone projectile vomit before in my life...but Darien broke that cherry...people puking everywhere.

I didnt get to take any pics (which is sad) cause we were too close to security and I didnt want to take the chance. Anyone get any good pics?

Its sad cause DL was my last DMB show this tour Bring on the next tour!!!

Bolded text = Hilarious.

I didn't get pics either. Snuck my camera in but security was CRAZY...Could hardly even have your cellphone in your hand without the guy (who was pacing the rows all night) come RIGHT UP to your seat and check out what you were doing..he was like an annoying elementary school teacher.

It's also sad that we didnt get a LIOG - that would have made the whole 4 shows for me. But oh well, absence makes the heart grow fonder :)

Thanks again for calling me, sorry that I didnt get to see you.


I'm tired after typing all this so I will keep my own comments to a minimum: Highlights: Pig was nice, as was space between - watching fireworks and rollercoasters added to the show as well.
It feels wierd to post space as a highlight

One song encore, in my mind, was a letdown - especially when I was trying to anticipate what was coming next.
Getting out of the lot in a few minutes may also have been a highlight.

scotty12
07-15-2004, 05:33 PM
Oh I forgot to ask - did anyone camp at the Darien campgrounds?

mxz440fan
07-15-2004, 05:45 PM
i'm surprised i haven't seen this yet...or maybe its because i didn't read 2 or 3 pages of this...what was up with dave fucking up STJL lyrics? i kind of like it...mainly because i'm a poker player myself, so the more one eyed jack of spades the better :thumbsup

The Sean
07-15-2004, 05:45 PM
Fuck Darien Lake, they took my Warehouse keychain...
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Bitch guard: - -"you might throw it at the band"
-
Me : "The Fucking band gave it to me"
wait, explain this in more detail

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 05:51 PM
scotty, give me another call later today. my friend dragged me out of the venue. he was hell bent on leaving. if you can reach me by the end of today, give me your address and ill ship your stuff out tomarrow, sorry for the long delay :(

DMB-CRAZY
07-15-2004, 05:55 PM
Thanks again for calling me, sorry that I didnt get to see you.

I was nervous to call, but figured what the hell!!...sorry we didnt get to meet up either..our 1 min meeting at TO was too short!

scotty12
07-15-2004, 06:15 PM
scotty, give me another call later today. my friend dragged me out of the venue. he was hell bent on leaving. if you can reach me by the end of today, give me your address and ill ship your stuff out tomarrow, sorry for the long delay :(

You SON OF A BITCH!!! :twak

Just kidding, we were getting pushed every which way so we just left too - I'm glad that neither one of us was sitting around thinking "where is he? did he stand me up?"

I'll call ya later

dobyblue
07-15-2004, 06:22 PM
Fuck Darien Lake, they took my Warehouse keychain...
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Bitch guard: - -"you might throw it at the band"
-
Me : "The Fucking band gave it to me"
we entered through the park - they wouldn't let Matt take in his keychain from THE DAMN WAREHOUSE cuz he might throw it at someone? How dumb is that.
You can sell it at Molson Amphitheatre, not even bring it in at Darien?
Come on Matt - share your roller coasting debacle with everyone.
I passed out on the Superman.. :haha
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Matt I'm sorry but the way you worded that is so freaking funny my bollocks are bouncing off my chin!
Don't worry people it wasn't for the whole ride! :freak

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 06:37 PM
You SON OF A BITCH!!! :twak

Just kidding, we were getting pushed every which way so we just left too - I'm glad that neither one of us was sitting around thinking "where is he? did he stand me up?"

I'll call ya later
:lol ok sounds like a plan

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 06:40 PM
i haven't heard anything about video, yet, and there wasn't any pre-buzz about taping, either. the way they were patting people down...it would have been tough to get one in unless it was small, but security at the show was pretty chill, they were letting people take massive amounts of pictures.I've been trying to get a dvd of the Darien show last year and the Rochester show this past winter, and my God it's freakign impossible, a friend of mine was supposed to give them to me, but he hasn't, and I don't feel like bugging him anymore. I just want to see the shows again damnit! :lol

twosteppn36
07-15-2004, 06:42 PM
thats because you suck michelle

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 06:42 PM
there was a guy with a video camera, dressed in all black and with a walkie talkie going across the path in front of the 200s. not sure if he was with the band or not, but security let him carry on

DMBfan14567
07-15-2004, 06:42 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Matt I'm sorry but the way you worded that is so freaking funny my bollocks are bouncing off my chin!
Don't worry people it wasn't for the whole ride! :freakhahhaaa good Lord, that's funny, was it from fear or alcohol?!

scotty12
07-15-2004, 07:59 PM
Rollercoasters scare the fecal matter out of my bowels

I went on the boomerang, the predator, and the viper - Was going to go on the mind eraser and chickened out. I wont lie to anyone - the superman was never a possibility. My girlfriend was not impressed, to say the least

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 08:06 PM
i went on 3, mind eraser, superman, and boomerang. the ony bad part about the about the superman is the 1st drop. if you have the guts to get over it the rest is easy sailing.

the mind eraser wasn't bad at all and i was sitting in the front car. you should have given it a go! they dont look as bad as they appear

scotty12
07-15-2004, 08:15 PM
There is no way that you can tell me the superman is not as bad as it appears - I will simply ignore you.

I've heard enough arguments about my pussying out from my gf, and she can be VERY convincing - however I was not ruining a nice pair of shorts just to ride a rollercoaster

In other words: I don't have the guts (at least I didn't on wednesday)

By the way - do you want me to call you or do you just want my address?

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 08:19 PM
you can PM me your addy and i'll get it out tomarrow ;)

scotty12
07-15-2004, 08:29 PM
Thanks alot man - scary thing is I would still be waiting 4 more weeks probably if I had it shipped to Canada

Or maybe I would just never receive it - like my WH package

mxz440fan
07-15-2004, 08:35 PM
I've been trying to get a dvd of the Darien show last year and the Rochester show this past winter, and my God it's freakign impossible, a friend of mine was supposed to give them to me, but he hasn't, and I don't feel like bugging him anymore. I just want to see the shows again damnit! :lolthere are no darien dvds in circulation, to my knowledge. the 12/20/03 was pretty widespread after we got it up on BT.

AudreyM
07-15-2004, 08:53 PM
there was a guy with a video camera, dressed in all black and with a walkie talkie going across the path in front of the 200s. not sure if he was with the band or not, but security let him carry on

Yup. I saw him too.

A.

AudreyM
07-15-2004, 08:55 PM
Fuck Darien Lake, they took my Warehouse keychain...
-
Bitch guard: - -"you might throw it at the band"
-
Me : "The Fucking band gave it to me"

Get OUT! :lol

DMB-CRAZY
07-15-2004, 09:21 PM
I am just listening to the Darien show now from the groove, does anyone know where the stand was? I know I seen many stands, I wonder if there is a better version going to be out.

mxz440fan
07-15-2004, 10:53 PM
I am just listening to the Darien show now from the groove, does anyone know where the stand was? I know I seen many stands, I wonder if there is a better version going to be out.there will be a better source. i dont know for sure...but there were at least 7 rigs (section 200's and in), and 2 were *near* the stacks, so i have faith there is at least 1 better recording. when it'll be in circulation is anyones guess.

unccrombie
07-15-2004, 11:00 PM
what about the one on crumbo's ftp?

twosteppn36
07-15-2004, 11:02 PM
there will be a better source. i dont know for sure...but there were at least 7 rigs (section 200's and in), and 2 were *near* the stacks, so i have faith there is at least 1 better recording. when it'll be in circulation is anyones guess.



there were two right in front of me in the first and second rows...and then i saw another on the left side

snyddogg430
07-15-2004, 11:07 PM
Hey guys sorry I haven't been around this thread or the SPAC last few days, right after Darien I went up to camp, and tomorrow I'll be at Hartford, but I figured I should do my Darien review thing now.

First the park. Not as busy as I thought. Got there around 11, the guys made me park the absolute farthest away from the PAC and the park. Superman was great...only fifteen minute wait. Mind Eraser also had a very short line. Pissed off that for another coaster (I think it was the Viper, I know that it is the one right by the Batman stage thing) we were waiting for some mechanical problem. We were right at the front, two rides away from going on it, when the woman said we would have to wait a few minutes. That turned into ten minutes, then a guy came on and said the ride would be closed for 45 minutes for repairs. Oh well. Went swimming in the afternoon then got ready to tailgate around 3.

Got out to tailgate. Our friends that were gonna bring the alc got busted the night before at the state campground and lost all their stuff. We watched some people play some various beer games then walked around. Met up with some people. Got in the PAC around 7. Galactic had a pretty good opening set. Not really into the woman singing, but the jams were nice and a nice Led Zepplin cover to finish.

DDTW was a great opener, Dave really wailed. Pig was a surprise, heard it at SPAC and really liked it. The new songs were all great. I loved hearing Thing again. Crush was great, my friend called his gf and they listened to it together, he really enjoyed that. STJL was intense as usual. Too Much was the sickest version I have ever heard. Recently was also pretty cool. Space Between was a first for me, the crowd went nuts for this song and I enjoyed it. Warehouse was sweet. The tease was a nice surprise, as was Ants b/c it was played both Saturday and Sunday. Billies was a nice encore. I would have liked two songs but I guess the original encore was just Stay and I'll take a one song Billies encore over a one song Stay encore anyday.

Didn't get out of the lot until 2 am. We were parked at the absolute end so we waited until everyone else got out. My friend jumpstarted a car and the people gave him some cash which was nice. When the lot had no more lines of cars, we left and went to Denny's in Batavia. Got to our motel (Super 8 in Batavia) around 3. Great day overall.

It wasn't that much diff than SPAC, only song not played at SPAC was Space Between. Still it was great. It was nuts because LeRoi didn't wear his shades at all. My friend was a DMB virgin and heard nasty versions of his two DMB favorites: Ants and Too Much. We sat section 202 which was my best view yet. I'm really liking the new songs, especially Joy Ride and Thing. Can't wait until tomorrow, 6th row at Hartford!

kasquith
07-15-2004, 11:32 PM
there will be a better source. i dont know for sure...but there were at least 7 rigs (section 200's and in), and 2 were *near* the stacks, so i have faith there is at least 1 better recording. when it'll be in circulation is anyones guess.

Anyone know if Bastable taped this year? I LOVE Bastable's tapes.

AudreyM
07-15-2004, 11:38 PM
Anyone know if Bastable taped this year? I LOVE Bastable's tapes.

Hey Kyle!

Were you there? I was in 201, 2nd row. Saw at least 4 rigs in the 100's.

A.

kasquith
07-15-2004, 11:46 PM
Unfortunately, didn't hit Darien this year. It was a staple for me in 2002 and 2003, but when the tour dates came out it just didn't work. Mid-week meant I'd have to take at least half of Tuesday off, and Wednesday (or work REALLY tired). Plus, I was saving money for Gorge.

I was kinda nervous watching the set list on Tuesday. Knowing my luck, the year I skip Darien I was worried it would be the show of the year. Looks like a great night, but I'm not kicking myself for missing it. I did hit night 2 at SPAC (show was similar to Toronto, but what an awesome venue!) plus I've got Gorge coming. I'm satisfied :)

I just love Garrett Bastable's tapes, and he usually hits Rochester/Buffalo shows.

But anyways, I will see you at the Gorge!!! You still sitting B 49 the first night?

brockboi
07-15-2004, 11:52 PM
about Matt and the superman ride...i was sitting behind matt and to his left. i noticed that his head had dipped down...i thought he was going to spew all over steve and myself. he didn't, just blacked out for a sec. it was frickin jokes tho! he's a tropper tho and kept riding!

texasdmblvr
07-16-2004, 08:09 AM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Matt I'm sorry but the way you worded that is so freaking funny my bollocks are bouncing off my chin!
Don't worry people it wasn't for the whole ride! :freak
what ride are we waiting for the pic from?
hopefully not a pic of matt passed out :lol
although, that would be pretty freakin' funny!!!
matt, no worries ~ i've done the same thing on the texas cyclone - many many many years ago.. hence my chicken comments the morning ya'll left.

mckinb
07-16-2004, 10:13 AM
anyone get a listen to the show yet?, just curious what you all think the tease was!
I'm still sticking with my same thought, but I have to wait till I get back home this afternoon to pop in the Dead to compare.
Just curious????
Have a good morning everyone

Britt

mxz440fan
07-16-2004, 10:25 AM
Anyone know if Bastable taped this year? I LOVE Bastable's tapes.naylor and bastable are my favorite (audio) tapers :D
Ice and White are rising quickly, too.

Video, its no contest, Sinclair followed by Bernard.

watchtower6991
07-16-2004, 10:46 AM
did anyone see the drug sniffing dog that was walking around with the 2 cops in the parking lot before the show started.

dobyblue
07-16-2004, 10:56 AM
There is no way that you can tell me the superman is not as bad as it appears - I will simply ignore you.
the ony bad part about the about the superman is the 1st drop
This is the best bit! :lol
The worst bit is the 1st climb. I cannot talk, look around or even think when I go up the first hill. I'm literally petrified and scared silly. Once the ride starts though bearing that first incline is all worth it.

Superman - Darien Lake
Height 208'
1st Drop 205'
Speed 73 mph
Angle of Drop 68 degrees

Coming off of Superman I wondered how the hell I ever managed to do this one

Millenium Force - Cedar Point
Height 310'
1st Drop 300'
Speed 93 mph
Angle of Drop 80 degrees!!!!!!!!!

Think how straight down 68 degrees felt like on Superman then imagine how 80 degrees, 20 mph faster and 100ft taller felt! I was shaking like a leaf when I finished Millennium Force! :freak

scotty12
07-16-2004, 11:01 AM
Video, its no contest, Sinclair followed by Bernard.

Are these guys on ants?

DMBfan14567
07-16-2004, 11:05 AM
there are no darien dvds in circulation, to my knowledge. the 12/20/03 was pretty widespread after we got it up on BT.really? damn. I thought there was a Darien one..someone over at ami did it I believe ;) is the 12/20/03 still up for BT?

scotty12
07-16-2004, 11:07 AM
there will be a better source. i dont know for sure...but there were at least 7 rigs (section 200's and in), and 2 were *near* the stacks, so i have faith there is at least 1 better recording. when it'll be in circulation is anyones guess.

In the front of the left 100 section, there was the taper that was at Toronto and SPAC - not sure if it is Mehndelson or Berner - or if I just dont know my tapers at all - but they were close.

scotty12
07-16-2004, 11:08 AM
it was frickin jokes tho! he's a tropper tho and kept riding!

What was his other choice?
You are locked in and its either die or keep riding

scotty12
07-16-2004, 11:11 AM
Oh I forgot to ask - did anyone camp at the Darien campgrounds?

I'm not sure :confused:

DMBfan14567
07-16-2004, 11:14 AM
This is the best bit! :lol
The worst bit is the 1st climb. I cannot talk, look around or even think when I go up the first hill. I'm literally petrified and scared silly. Once the ride starts though bearing that first incline is all worth it.

Superman - Darien Lake
Height 208'
1st Drop 205'
Speed 73 mph
Angle of Drop 68 degrees

Coming off of Superman I wondered how the hell I ever managed to do this one

Millenium Force - Cedar Point
Height 310'
1st Drop 300'
Speed 93 mph
Angle of Drop 80 degrees!!!!!!!!!

Think how straight down 68 degrees felt like on Superman then imagine how 80 degrees, 20 mph faster and 100ft taller felt! I was shaking like a leaf when I finished Millennium Force! :freakoh my God, I love Millenium Force!!!

I went to Cedar Point last Memorial Day weekend...rode the Top Flight Dragster, holy shit. awesome.

PHYSICAL DIMENSIONS
Track Length: 2,800 feet
Lift Height: 420 feet
Angle of Lift Hill: 90 degrees
Vertical Drop: 400 feet
Angle of Descent: 90 degrees
Angle of Twist on Descent: 270 degrees

DESIGN
Ride Manufacturer: Intamin AG of Wollerau, Switzerland
Model: Launched out-and-back coaster
Structure: Steel tubular track
Features: Hydraulic launch system
Magnetic braking system
Tiered seating on the coaster’s cars for better viewing (similar to stadium seating)
270-degree spiral on descent
Color Scheme: Red and white alternating colored track on launch
TIME, SPEED, CAPACITY
Launch Speed: Approximately 120 mph in four seconds
Drop Speed: Approximately 120 mph
Capacity Approximately 1,500 riders per hour
VEHICLES
Coaches: Six 16-passenger trains
Five cars on each train; three four-passenger and two two-passenger cars
Design: Fiberglass and steel coaches with individual lap bars, interlocking seat belts and padded head restraint systems. May not accommodate Guests of Exceptional Size.
Train Colors: Black cherry; Indy green; fluorescent purple; cobalt blue; sunshine yellow; and sunset red
WORLD RECORDS
Firsts for Top Thrill Dragster First roller coaster EVER to top 400 feet
First coaster EVER to reach speeds of 120 mph
First “strata-coaster” built on planet Earth
CEDAR POINT HAS HELD THE TITLE OF WORLD'S TALLEST ROLLER COASTER FOUR TIMES! Gemini (125 feet, 4 inches)
Magnum XL-200 (205 feet)
Millennium Force (310 feet)
Top Thrill Dragster (420 feet)

they literally had a sign in line talking about "don't be alarmed, sometimes the trian does not clear the hill, it will return to the starting point and relaunch" or something like that. holy shit.

mxz440fan
07-16-2004, 11:22 AM
really? damn. I thought there was a Darien one..someone over at ami did it I believe ;) is the 12/20/03 still up for BT?Not to my knowledge...and I consider myself pretty up to date on what dvds are in circulation...or at least i know about it because 4 different people tend to tell me the minute somethings released :lol
12/20/03 torrent is probably dead, by now. you can check, though. the torrent is in the "Torrents" link in my sig, so you can see if anyones still on it.Are these guys on ants?Sinclair probably is. I don't think i've seen him post more then 4 times on any board because of how busy (and amazing) he is. Bernard sticks to the bridge and the groove... and tends not to post much, as well.

dobyblue
07-16-2004, 11:28 AM
they literally had a sign in line talking about "don't be alarmed, sometimes the trian does not clear the hill, it will return to the starting point and relaunch" or something like that. holy shit.
Ha ha! I wondered what would happen if the cars just hit that perfect speed where they stop right at the apex! I know my heart would explode from sheer terror!
At this link you can watch with Quicktime or Windows Media Player a great film of Top Thrill Dragster in action from a PPV and relive your excitement. We went last August and TTD was still a brand new ride so it was taking around 5 hours to ride it with all the stops and starts in operation. We couldn't wait that long as we only had 2 days in the park. Next year though. it certainly is an awesome sight to behold!
http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill/ttd/video/index.cfm
You can also watch little PPV videos of all the other coasters in the park at http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill/rollercoasters.cfm just click on the ride and then click on POV Video. Best park on the planet no doubt!

texasdmblvr
07-16-2004, 11:34 AM
What was his other choice?
You are locked in and its either die or keep riding
:lol
that's exactly what i was thinking when i read curt's post..
what else was he gonna do???
EEK and EEK !!
i'll take pictures from the ground..
ya'll ride
i can hold your beer :p

DMB-CRAZY
07-16-2004, 12:23 PM
I love rollercoasters...maybe cause I have only been to the ones at Wonderland. But on these ones, I think I would have yakked!!

DMBfan14567
07-16-2004, 12:32 PM
Ha ha! I wondered what would happen if the cars just hit that perfect speed where they stop right at the apex! I know my heart would explode from sheer terror!
At this link you can watch with Quicktime or Windows Media Player a great film of Top Thrill Dragster in action from a PPV and relive your excitement. We went last August and TTD was still a brand new ride so it was taking around 5 hours to ride it with all the stops and starts in operation. We couldn't wait that long as we only had 2 days in the park. Next year though. it certainly is an awesome sight to behold!
http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill/ttd/video/index.cfm
You can also watch little PPV videos of all the other coasters in the park at http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill/rollercoasters.cfm just click on the ride and then click on POV Video. Best park on the planet no doubt!yeah we were there RIGHT after it opened, and most of the day it kept closing down, so we were scared we wouldn't be able to ride it..but we got in line at 9pm and they kept it going until everyone in line rode...we finally got on it at like 11pm :lol and there were still tons of people behind us.


if it stopped at the apex, I'd kill myself in fear.

DMBfan14567
07-16-2004, 12:32 PM
Not to my knowledge...and I consider myself pretty up to date on what dvds are in circulation...or at least i know about it because 4 different people tend to tell me the minute somethings released :lol
12/20/03 torrent is probably dead, by now. you can check, though. the torrent is in the "Torrents" link in my sig, so you can see if anyones still on it.Sinclair probably is. I don't think i've seen him post more then 4 times on any board because of how busy (and amazing) he is. Bernard sticks to the bridge and the groove... and tends not to post much, as well.
I'll have to bug my friend again to see if he'll give me a copy :lol I don't have a DVD burner

mckinb
07-16-2004, 12:41 PM
I'll have to bug my friend again to see if he'll give me a copy :lol I don't have a DVD burner

If you have a problem getting it, let me know, I think I have an extra copy laying around, and if not I can always b+p for you. I'd be more than happy to help you out.
Email is in sig, if you are interested.

Britt

DMBfan14567
07-16-2004, 12:45 PM
If you have a problem getting it, let me know, I think I have an extra copy laying around, and if not I can always b+p for you. I'd be more than happy to help you out.
Email is in sig, if you are interested.

Britt
really? awesome, I'll be in touch if my friend falls through again:thumbsup

mckinb
07-16-2004, 01:00 PM
not a problem, just let me know

mxz440fan
07-16-2004, 01:38 PM
britt is amazing peoples :D

DMBfan14567
07-16-2004, 01:47 PM
I'd have to agree with that just from this small convo :thumbsup

mckinb
07-16-2004, 01:51 PM
britt is amazing peoples :D
^^ Are you hitting any other shows???

I'd have to agree with that just from this small convo

Thank you, thank you! :)

Always glad to help out!

mxz440fan
07-16-2004, 02:14 PM
^^ Are you hitting any other shows???no :(
i'm done for the summer, sadly :(

AudreyM
07-16-2004, 02:19 PM
You still sitting B 49 the first night?

Yup, but I managed to get us out of the 400's at Darien and into the 200's, so I haven't given up hope on scoring some better seats for night 1. How about you?

mckinb
07-16-2004, 02:58 PM
no :(
i'm done for the summer, sadly :(

that's too bad, I was hoping we could catch up at alpine or something :rolleyes:

kasquith
07-16-2004, 03:45 PM
Yup, but I managed to get us out of the 400's at Darien and into the 200's, so I haven't given up hope on scoring some better seats for night 1. How about you?

I keep an eye on Ticketmaster and the various boards, but I'm still B 48.

I'm not sure how hard I'll try to get better... I'm 12th row (sec A) night 2 and 19th row (sec B) night 3. But if something really good popped up, I'd probably take it. :)

BSDaze004
07-16-2004, 08:53 PM
they dont look as bad as they appear

:freak what?

mxz440fan
07-16-2004, 10:13 PM
:freak what?Warning: nipples are closer then they appear?

unccrombie
07-16-2004, 10:24 PM
:lol

fatty7999
07-16-2004, 10:35 PM
does anyone know which taper for darien is better?

brockboi
07-17-2004, 11:56 AM
i was just checking out my show stats again here now...and found something very interesting...especially for you Matt.
MY STREAK IS STILL ALIVE. 9 shows, 9 different openers!
i thought for sure i'd heard DDTW as an opener before, but all 3 other times i've seen it, it's been mid-set!
my streak continues Matt!!!

dmbluvr2178
07-17-2004, 11:57 AM
Were there any sightings of the band in the park before the show? I wanted to go in but spent ALL DAY out in the parking lot burning to a crisp.

brockboi
07-17-2004, 12:00 PM
haha, it was hot out!
i didn't hear of them in the park at all. i know they were last year.

dobyblue
07-17-2004, 12:01 PM
According to the setlist crew the band did enjoy the rides during the day before the show.

texasdmblvr
07-17-2004, 12:03 PM
According to the setlist crew the band did enjoy the rides during the day before the show.
oh man- wouldn't you love to see their pics....

greels1
07-17-2004, 02:06 PM
yea i saw 'Roi getting a ride over to the park in a golf cart.... I was like 5 feet away and in so much shock that it was him.. i just kinda stared at him and didnt even say hi.... he kinda smiled at me and then as he went by his bodygaurd was on the back and he just started laughing atme.... i felt like an idiot for freezing up like that... i was pissed at myself for the rest of the day

BrahmaBull
07-17-2004, 03:47 PM
i was just checking out my show stats again here now...and found something very interesting...especially for you Matt.
MY STREAK IS STILL ALIVE. 9 shows, 9 different openers!
i thought for sure i'd heard DDTW as an opener before, but all 3 other times i've seen it, it's been mid-set!
my streak continues Matt!!!

everyday screwed me, and DDTW burried me..haha...so 14 shows and now 2 opener repeats, and stills stuck at 92 songs, only new ones i think i have this yr are the new ones, and i still only have 1 I did it :monkey

BrahmaBull
07-17-2004, 03:48 PM
id like to figure out what songs (album, or more common) that I havent heard

BrahmaBull
07-17-2004, 04:00 PM
well, after further review, I have heard 9 new songs according to ants...

STJL
RECENTLY
5 new ones
SPACE BETWEEN
Prelude?->joy ride (i guess their callin this a song)

so 92 songs it is...next task is to see which songs i need to hear..hopefully i can hit 100:lol

BrahmaBull
07-17-2004, 04:17 PM
ok, 16 official releases I havent seen...

unccrombie
07-17-2004, 05:27 PM
has anyone downloaded the show yet? i'm wondering if the tease was the 2001 GiG or another song like i originally thought

unccrombie
07-17-2004, 05:29 PM
well, after further review, I have heard 9 new songs according to ants...

STJL
RECENTLY
5 new ones
SPACE BETWEEN
Prelude?->joy ride (i guess their callin this a song)

so 92 songs it is...next task is to see which songs i need to hear..hopefully i can hit 100:lol
i've heard 77, not too far behind :)

mxz440fan
07-17-2004, 05:54 PM
has anyone downloaded the show yet? i'm wondering if the tease was the 2001 GiG or another song like i originally thoughti've had it downloaded for a while, doesn't sound good (compared to the gems of this year...lots of crowd noise). i believe it is GiG prelude.

unccrombie
07-17-2004, 06:27 PM
your source must suck :)

mxz440fan
07-17-2004, 06:29 PM
your source must suck :)suchak source. i've been waiting patiently for another one to be posted to the groove/etree or even to my buddy's server. :(

DMB-CRAZY
07-17-2004, 06:40 PM
suchak source. i've been waiting patiently for another one to be posted to the groove/etree or even to my buddy's server. :(

That is the source I have...I hope a better one comes out...

DMB-CRAZY
07-17-2004, 06:40 PM
i've heard 77, not too far behind :)

I'm at 64...a little behind...not too bad for 8 shows though!

BrahmaBull
07-17-2004, 06:46 PM
ive downloaded and converted...havent listened...i got the one from etree that was FLAC...anyone know if this is the better of the two on etree? are thier more out there?

mxz440fan
07-17-2004, 07:43 PM
ive downloaded and converted...havent listened...i got the one from etree that was FLAC...anyone know if this is the better of the two on etree? are thier more out there?both on etree were flac. one was a lawn source, the other was suchak

BrahmaBull
07-17-2004, 07:46 PM
both on etree were flac. one was a lawn source, the other was suchak

lol figures...what is suchak tho? cuz i went away from the lawn one and got the other one, which i guess is suchak! wooo! :confused:

mxz440fan
07-17-2004, 07:52 PM
lol figures...what is suchak tho? cuz i went away from the lawn one and got the other one, which i guess is suchak! wooo! :confused:i haven't downloaded the lawn one...i figured suchak's was in the pavillion, so it had to be better. turns out it wasn't up to par with the rest of this year's (amazing) batch of recordings. oh well, we can wait for naylor/bastable to get their (i'm guessing) amazing recordings out :)

*assuming they recorded :confused:

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 12:13 AM
the other source on ants has a lot less crowd noise, but very heavy on the drums (so you can't hear dave very well) (i have ddtw downloaded, thats it, btw). there is some crowd, so its not IEM. doesn't sound quite right, though, i'm still waiting on naylor/bastable.

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 12:27 AM
after listening to this more...this sounds much like an IEM/aud matrix...when i get osw downloaded i'll give a new review for it.

so far i rate it a :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup and a half

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 01:36 AM
wow, i can't get enough of this recording, the more i listen to it, the more i like it.
heres DDTW (http://www.rpi.edu/~trojaa/ddtw.mp3)
i dont have enough room to post pig

brockboi
07-18-2004, 09:11 AM
i haven't seen any pics posted for this show. did i miss them or were there not really any taken by anyone?

TripPin BilLie
07-18-2004, 12:14 PM
Why don't they play at the dome in 'Cuse? I'd go there.

J.[/QUOTE]
if they were to play in syracuse..id definetly go...only an hours drive from me whereas i drove 4 hours to get to darien lake

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 12:27 PM
i haven't seen any pics posted for this show. did i miss them or were there not really any taken by anyone?i've got one nice pic that came out. PM me your email addy

dobyblue
07-18-2004, 12:32 PM
this sounds much like an IEM/aud matrix
It would not be on ants if it were an In Ear Microphone recording. They are illegal.

dobyblue
07-18-2004, 12:44 PM
I have seen 73 songs over 14 shows. It's the d+f shows that really make the difference. If I add the 12.20.03 show that I narrowly missed I jump up to 95 songs.
I think the stats are a little off at the moment though. Here's mine

Personal Show Statistics for dobyblue
You have been to 15 Dave Matthews Band shows in which 300 songs have been played, an average of 20.00 songs per show.
At these 15 shows, you have seen 95 different songs.

To see a list of songs you've seen live broken down by album, click here.

Your total rarity index for all the shows you've been to is 37.37

To see how dobyblue ranks against the other members of Ants, click here.


Top 10 Songs Heard
Ants Marching 13816
Christmas Song 1034
I'll Back You Up 1667
Minarets 2841
One Sweet World 11011
Recently 2290
Satellite 10928
Seek Up 2454
The Song That Jane Likes 4755
Tripping Billies 7857

Can you believe I've seen Seek Up 2454 times? :lol

texasdmblvr
07-18-2004, 12:50 PM
I have seen 73 songs over 14 shows. It's the d+f shows that really make the difference. If I add the 12.20.03 show that I narrowly missed I jump up to 95 songs.
I think the stats are a little off at the moment though. Here's mine
Can you believe I've seen Seek Up 2454 times? :lol
oh lord, gotta check mine out..
you could really fuck with somebodies head with that attatchment :lol :lol




***hmmmmm.. you're just special this morning i guess ;) mine seems to be right on!
:p

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 01:10 PM
It would not be on ants if it were an In Ear Microphone recording. They are illegal.i know, i know. it sounds right between an IEM and AUD (is the point i was trying to make)

dobyblue
07-18-2004, 01:27 PM
and I loved the download of DDTW, thanks. 330 KB/sec - great quality

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 01:49 PM
yeah man, no problem, see what i mean about how crazy the quality is?
i can't believe no one has their name attached to that recording!
(and that one is 112-128kbps mp3 {due to space})

unccrombie
07-18-2004, 02:00 PM
where'd you get that source from?

scotty12
07-18-2004, 02:33 PM
i haven't seen any pics posted for this show. did i miss them or were there not really any taken by anyone?

Security was the tightest I've ever seen at a show in the 100s. Three security guards in my aisle - and I was on an aisle seat.
Got my camera in but didn't take it out, which was a shame.

mckinb
07-18-2004, 02:46 PM
where'd you get that source from?

I beleive he is referring to the source in the ants download area, there is 2 sources, and he's talking of the unknown source.

Does anyone know if it is posted anywhere else?? I have a mac, which doesn't support ants downloader. Just really want to get a better source!
Thanks :D

RiotAct
07-18-2004, 02:50 PM
Security was the tightest I've ever seen at a show in the 100s. Three security guards in my aisle - and I was on an aisle seat.
Got my camera in but didn't take it out, which was a shame.
??? Seriously ??? I thought security was pretty lax. I saw a guy in Row 2 take out a camera and take a picture of the crowd. Security either didn't notice or didn't care.

mckinb
07-18-2004, 02:54 PM
yeah man, no problem, see what i mean about how crazy the quality is?
i can't believe no one has their name attached to that recording!
(and that one is 112-128kbps mp3 {due to space})

is it the Berner source?

TripPin BilLie
07-18-2004, 02:55 PM
i just figured out how to download and fix these downloads thingers to the comp and burn em whoooo (im a newbie at these things) i d/l the bit torrent for the darien lake show...ah i love it :monkey

DMB-CRAZY
07-18-2004, 02:58 PM
??? Seriously ??? I thought security was pretty lax. I saw a guy in Row 2 take out a camera and take a picture of the crowd. Security either didn't notice or didn't care.

I saw a guy in front of me get his camera confiscated. I got mine in, but didnt take any pics (I kick myself now)...but its better than going though the hassle of getting it back. I was also told twice for not smoking in my seats (I was in 405)..however, there were tons of others smoking around me..even in the aisles...oh well..

Rippy
07-18-2004, 03:00 PM
how is evryone downloading this show when the server is down??

mckinb
07-18-2004, 03:02 PM
I think they are going through users ftp sites, or the ants downloader.

Rippy
07-18-2004, 03:05 PM
the ants downloader isnt workin for me...isnt that still thru the server anyway??? i dont know

mckinb
07-18-2004, 03:12 PM
i think it may be ran through differently, but I could be wrong, I can't use it because I have a mac. What kind of connection do you have? Modem or cable and up??

brockboi
07-18-2004, 03:12 PM
Top 10 Songs Heard
Ants Marching 13816
Christmas Song 1034
I'll Back You Up 1667
Minarets 2841
One Sweet World 11011
Recently 2290
Satellite 10928
Seek Up 2454
The Song That Jane Likes 4755
Tripping Billies 7857

Can you believe I've seen Seek Up 2454 times? :lol
those are some amazing stats!!!

Rippy
07-18-2004, 03:15 PM
i think it may be ran through differently, but I could be wrong, I can't use it because I have a mac. What kind of connection do you have? Modem or cable and up??


i have cable

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 03:22 PM
i'm going through the ants downloader...cable (extremely slow :( 20kbps ish)
like i said before, its the unknown source...DAUD is all it says. mk4v for those of you that know mic types :confused:
theres a new source posted to the ants shn server, haven't been able to download the .txt for it, though

mckinb
07-18-2004, 03:26 PM
^^ I think that's the Berner source, because when I went through the user ftp to get it, the file name had Berner in it, I could be wrong, but I got almost immediately bumped out of it.

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 03:27 PM
someone said on another board that berner used mk4v's, so it probably is :)

mckinb
07-18-2004, 03:33 PM
cool, wish I was able to get a hold of it! :)

jno727
07-18-2004, 04:44 PM
i downloaded the show, now how long does it usually take for a coverart to be released? Is there a website i can go to where people make those? The ones i've used before were excellent and very well made. Hopefully someone will put out a good one for the darien lake concert.

unccrombie
07-18-2004, 05:32 PM
how can you be downloading from the ants server when it's down...?

mckinb
07-18-2004, 05:57 PM
ants downloader

unccrombie
07-18-2004, 06:44 PM
ants downloader runs off the http server

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 06:57 PM
hey, if it works...it works :rolleyes: :D

mckinb
07-18-2004, 07:52 PM
i'm downloading on my moms computer right now, it's SUPER slow though! :)

unccrombie
07-18-2004, 08:02 PM
that doesnt make sense, the ants downloader goes off the shn server...go figure

mxz440fan
07-18-2004, 10:06 PM
its a conspiracy.

DMB-CRAZY
07-19-2004, 01:37 AM
I am downloading from the ANTS downloader...its extremely slow, but at least its working! And the songs that I do have converter sound great better than the other source.

TwoStepFF
07-19-2004, 01:38 AM
good show up at darien

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 01:40 AM
crumbo's ftp is always full and it's making me cry :devil

tommytoohottie
07-19-2004, 02:36 AM
:cool: i thought the cocnert was fucking sweet, i was angry about the one song encore but i still love dave.....go bills

DMBBuffalo
07-19-2004, 02:43 AM
Im on day two of my download of the ants downloader, but the quality is awesome and worth the wait

DMB-CRAZY
07-19-2004, 02:43 AM
I was cool with the one song encore...the show rocked so I wasnt disappointed (although would I ever be with a DMB show)

DMB-CRAZY
07-19-2004, 02:44 AM
Im on day two of my download of the ants downloader, but the quality is awesome and worth the wait

I've gotten 10 songs since 3:00pm today...it is going at like 27kb/sec..but yeah the quality is awesome..I wonder where the stack was?

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 02:47 AM
there were 2 tapers about/less than 6 feet from the left and right stack. the stacks were behind those black curtains

mxz440fan
07-19-2004, 08:44 AM
wow, what a pleasant surprise...its finally done! alright! finished strong at 27kbps. sounds great. ambysshrink and i may be torrenting it once he finishes downloading it. (yeah, me torrenting audio :rolleyes:?)

mckinb
07-19-2004, 10:54 AM
^^ yeah, cause mine keeps failing, and I think I topped out at 11kbps! Oye!
Torrent would be lovely!!!! :)

texasdmblvr
07-19-2004, 11:08 AM
wow, what a pleasant surprise...its finally done! alright! finished strong at 27kbps. sounds great. ambysshrink and i may be torrenting it once he finishes downloading it. (yeah, me torrenting audio :rolleyes:?)
hey alan
how U doing today?? feeling any better?
thanks for helping me out yesterday- i 'ppreciate it man :p

DMBfan14567
07-19-2004, 11:09 AM
is there finally a better source out there? where is it if there is one?


man I feel lost after not beign on here all weekend

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 11:50 AM
^^ yeah, cause mine keeps failing, and I think I topped out at 11kbps! Oye!
Torrent would be lovely!!!! :)
try running on 56k, and gettin 2kb/sec

mckinb
07-19-2004, 11:54 AM
try running on 56k, and gettin 2kb/sec

that deserves a bigger OYE!! :o

dobyblue
07-19-2004, 11:59 AM
The threads over at sharing the groove are listing the DAUD - unknown over her at Ants Marching as the #1 quality source. I didn't have time this week-end to download it but I'm sure I'll get it next week-end.

On another note that little shit on ebay still has his bootleg 06.30.04 and 07.13.04 CD shows of DMB listed. Ebay better snag that shit before they sell. I was browsing over at nancies this morning during that brief little downtime AM.org had this morning. I posted the links to the auction there yesterday so they could give them all shit too and I guess the auctioner e-mailed a nancie back saying they taped the show and therefor could sell it if they like. Fucking arses!

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 01:28 PM
#1 quality source as in they have heard all the others? word is this is berner's. naylor should be releasing his soon

on a side note i'm now downloading @ 35kb/sec ;) explain that one to me

Onemoredrink
07-19-2004, 01:48 PM
i haven't seen any pics posted for this show. did i miss them or were there not really any taken by anyone?

I took a few pics..but haven't gotten them developed yet..i will scan them once i do.

c.

halloween21
07-19-2004, 01:55 PM
what is the better source that you guys are referrin to the DAUD or that Sahnjay kid

scotty12
07-19-2004, 02:22 PM
I guess the auctioner e-mailed a nancie back saying they taped the show and therefor could sell it if they like. Fucking arses!

That assclown has a different reply to EVERYONE that emails him :BANG

mxz440fan
07-19-2004, 02:25 PM
what is the better source that you guys are referrin to the DAUD or that Sahnjay kidis it really that many pages back? (hint...listen to song in sig)

DMBfan14567
07-19-2004, 02:31 PM
is it really that many pages back? (hint...listen to song in sig)
is that the one available on the groove?

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 02:35 PM
^ ants downloader, it's working for some reason. go download the .ants file in tour central. im pulling 20kb/sec right now on 56k :lol

dobyblue
07-19-2004, 02:53 PM
Yes.
DAUD - Unknown from the Ants Downloader. Excellent source. Berner.

DMBfan14567
07-19-2004, 02:53 PM
I have it set up at home, I'll grab it tonight, thanks!!! :thumbsup

BrahmaBull
07-19-2004, 02:55 PM
^ ants downloader, it's working for some reason. go download the .ants file in tour central. im pulling 20kb/sec right now on 56k :lol

I never understood the ants downloader...is it for whole shows only?

BrahmaBull
07-19-2004, 02:57 PM
wow, what a pleasant surprise...its finally done! alright! finished strong at 27kbps. sounds great. ambysshrink and i may be torrenting it once he finishes downloading it. (yeah, me torrenting audio :rolleyes:?)

is this the best source? better than the original 2 on etree?

BrahmaBull
07-19-2004, 03:11 PM
The threads over at sharing the groove are listing the DAUD - unknown over her at Ants Marching as the #1 quality source. I didn't have time this week-end to download it but I'm sure I'll get it next week-end.

On another note that little shit on ebay still has his bootleg 06.30.04 and 07.13.04 CD shows of DMB listed. Ebay better snag that shit before they sell. I was browsing over at nancies this morning during that brief little downtime AM.org had this morning. I posted the links to the auction there yesterday so they could give them all shit too and I guess the auctioner e-mailed a nancie back saying they taped the show and therefor could sell it if they like. Fucking arses!

what a douche...selling a shitty case for 20 bucks and giving the show away for "free". http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4025884034&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

dobyblue
07-19-2004, 03:17 PM
I'm sending another e-mail to ebay's copyright infringement/illegal items department. He's even made the auction private so that you cannot e-mail his bidders! Little gob shite. Anyway selling bootleg shows is still illegal. Although it does not say these are CD-R's ebay will still realise he's pulling a fast one.

Rippy
07-19-2004, 03:20 PM
what a douche...selling a shitty case for 20 bucks and giving the show away for "free". http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4025884034&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


haha. thats actually pretty clever. even though its wrong, there is nothing ebay can do

dobyblue
07-19-2004, 05:19 PM
Actually ebay can pull any auction they want. MusicToday or the Warehouse can see this auction and contact ebay immediately to let them know there is a violation of ebay's listing policies (in most part which are set to comply with the record companies) and ebay will act immediately to keep their policies relatively unchanged.
Do not doubt that.

mxz440fan
07-19-2004, 06:35 PM
hey guys, stop trying to pull my auctions, i need the money dammit!

:p :lol

mckinb
07-19-2004, 06:41 PM
hey guys, stop trying to pull my auctions, i need the money dammit!

:p :lol


I knew it had to be you!! :lol

Any word on the torrent, I'm still downloading, and not even 1/2 way done! :BANG

Rippy
07-19-2004, 06:58 PM
Actually ebay can pull any auction they want. MusicToday or the Warehouse can see this auction and contact ebay immediately to let them know there is a violation of ebay's listing policies (in most part which are set to comply with the record companies) and ebay will act immediately to keep their policies relatively unchanged.
Do not doubt that.


i know they can pull any auction they want, but he is not breaking any rules here techinically. hes selling a shitty cd case, people sell dumb shit all the time on ebay.

mxz440fan
07-19-2004, 07:26 PM
I knew it had to be you!! :lol

Any word on the torrent, I'm still downloading, and not even 1/2 way done! :BANGhe still needs two songs, so probably sometime tonight we'll have it up :)

mckinb
07-19-2004, 07:34 PM
he still needs two songs, so probably sometime tonight we'll have it up :)

:bounce THANK YOU :multi THANK YOU :bounce THANK YOU!!!! :multi

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 07:55 PM
I never understood the ants downloader...is it for whole shows only?
its a program that allows you to download whole shows continuously. no pause/resume feature so its optimal for dsl/cable. it downloads the songs in order so you dont have to keep clicking the next file through the http server thing

The Sean
07-19-2004, 08:13 PM
so, i take it a good copy of the show will surface soon?

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 08:19 PM
a good copy is already out :lol

BrahmaBull
07-19-2004, 08:42 PM
its a program that allows you to download whole shows continuously. no pause/resume feature so its optimal for dsl/cable. it downloads the songs in order so you dont have to keep clicking the next file through the http server thing

continuously as in multiple shows continuously? or all the songs of one show continuously? and how do you open/run the pig :babe ? im not home now...but i remember opening it and not being able to do jack with it. :BANG

brockboi
07-19-2004, 09:05 PM
just converted the flac files today...and listening to the show here now.
what a great version of too much. this is by far the best version i've ever heard. its a song that i'd rather not hear in concert, but wow, this was a great version IMO.

pretty solid "wooo's" in WH as well

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 09:59 PM
continuously as in multiple shows continuously? or all the songs of one show continuously? and how do you open/run the pig :babe ? im not home now...but i remember opening it and not being able to do jack with it. :BANG
you have to download a shn conversion tool. and it downloads the songs from 1 show continuously. each .ants file contains the data to download all the songs from that show in sequential order

mxz440fan
07-19-2004, 10:03 PM
here it is, asspeoples: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=6142
enjoy.

big thanks to ambysshrink for creating the torrent (because mine was messed up), yaddi yadda, he rocks.

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 10:07 PM
dankey

mckinb
07-19-2004, 10:23 PM
here it is, asspeoples: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=6142
enjoy.

big thanks to ambysshrink for creating the torrent (because mine was messed up), yaddi yadda, he rocks.

YOU SAVED MY SANITY!!
I thought I was going to go crazy, still not at 50% with the downloader!

:BANG I've broken through... :freak didn't think I'd recover!! :bounce

THanks guys for getting this to us!! :)

mxz440fan
07-19-2004, 11:39 PM
i am to please...you should know that by now ;)

unccrombie
07-19-2004, 11:47 PM
is it me or does it sound kind of distant? just listened to the intro/ddtw...but heard TM was crisp as can be?

mckinb
07-19-2004, 11:52 PM
i am to please...you should know that by now ;)

Ha, ha! Of course! Wouldn't expect anything less with you! :p

mxz440fan
07-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Ha, ha! Of course! Wouldn't expect anything less with you! :pawww, thanks britt :hug:

mckinb
07-20-2004, 12:11 AM
not a problem alan, I have much less of a headache b/c of you!
bt is going much smoother! :)

DMB-CRAZY
07-20-2004, 02:23 AM
here it is, asspeoples: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=6142

is this the same as the DAUD on the ants downloader?

BrahmaBull
07-20-2004, 04:26 AM
is it me or does it sound kind of distant? just listened to the intro/ddtw...but heard TM was crisp as can be?

ok john, you are pissing me off...which version is best?

blueparade
07-20-2004, 04:37 AM
so is the etree thing faster than the antsdownloader? Cuz the ants thing is gonna take me a lifetime to download this one show at about an average of 4KB/s. Blah.

I cant wait to hear this show again! The suspense is killing me!

mxz440fan
07-20-2004, 08:34 AM
is this the same as the DAUD on the ants downloader?yes. this is the good source, or i wouldn't have put it up.

barefoot
07-20-2004, 09:06 AM
the source I got off ebtree sounds good to me

barefoot
07-20-2004, 09:06 AM
:lol dbetree :D

DMBfan14567
07-20-2004, 10:03 AM
ok john, you are pissing me off...which version is best?hehe no kidding I"m so confused.

unccrombie
07-20-2004, 11:59 AM
download the torrent, but it doesnt seem to be working right now

The Sean
07-20-2004, 01:45 PM
i started it around 8am this morning. i came home at noon and it was done already. woot

dobyblue
07-20-2004, 02:04 PM
i know they can pull any auction they want, but he is not breaking any rules here techinically. hes selling a shitty cd case, people sell dumb shit all the time on ebay.
actually according to the rules stated

Recordable Media (CD-R / DVD-R) Policy
Do not list CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, or any other forms of recordable media on eBay unless they are blank.

Examples
The following are examples of items that may not be listed on eBay:

Music compilations on CD-R
The entire first season of a television series on one DVD-R
Compilation of 500 "freeware" and "shareware" programs on one CD-R
A VHS copy of a movie taped off of television

Exception
Sellers may list copies of software, music, movies, television programs, or games on CD-R, DVD-R (or other forms of recordable media) where:

the seller is the copyright owner; or
the underlying material is in the public domain

eBay Guideline: If you are the copyright owner of the material you are offering on CD-R or DVD-R, make sure you say so in your listing!


Examples

A local band decides to release its latest album on CD-R. The band may list the album on eBay so long as it is clear from the listing that the band is the copyright owner.
A buyer purchases an album on eBay that was released by a local band on CD-R. The buyer may not list the album on eBay, even though the band released the album on CD-R, because it violates eBay's Recordable Media policy.

Important Note: Even if you offer to give away for "free" (rather than sell) a prohibited, questionable, or infringing item, this will not relieve you of potential liability. This applies to both seller and buyer.

eBay Guideline: If you are the copyright owner of the downloadable material that you are listing on eBay, make sure you say so in your listing!

Rippy
07-20-2004, 03:00 PM
actually according to the rules stated

Recordable Media (CD-R / DVD-R) Policy
Do not list CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, or any other forms of recordable media on eBay unless they are blank.

Examples
The following are examples of items that may not be listed on eBay:

Music compilations on CD-R
The entire first season of a television series on one DVD-R
Compilation of 500 "freeware" and "shareware" programs on one CD-R
A VHS copy of a movie taped off of television

Exception
Sellers may list copies of software, music, movies, television programs, or games on CD-R, DVD-R (or other forms of recordable media) where:

the seller is the copyright owner; or
the underlying material is in the public domain

eBay Guideline: If you are the copyright owner of the material you are offering on CD-R or DVD-R, make sure you say so in your listing!


Examples

A local band decides to release its latest album on CD-R. The band may list the album on eBay so long as it is clear from the listing that the band is the copyright owner.
A buyer purchases an album on eBay that was released by a local band on CD-R. The buyer may not list the album on eBay, even though the band released the album on CD-R, because it violates eBay's Recordable Media policy.

Important Note: Even if you offer to give away for "free" (rather than sell) a prohibited, questionable, or infringing item, this will not relieve you of potential liability. This applies to both seller and buyer.

eBay Guideline: If you are the copyright owner of the downloadable material that you are listing on eBay, make sure you say so in your listing!


ahh good find

mxz440fan
07-20-2004, 11:29 PM
good to know they're going down!!

bastards. they could ruin it for all of us :(
haha, probably not, but they sure know how to piss us off

unccrombie
07-21-2004, 03:24 AM
just a quick question for ya'll.

i've been downloading shows lately (bit torrent) and when i go to convert shn-->wav i am getting a "no magic number" error. anyone have insight to this? all the file sizes add up when i check them with other files on a FTP, and if i download through a FTP the songs work...but most FTPs are full at night and i cant log into them to download

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 02:27 PM
:thumbsup berners recording is kick ass

Rippy
07-21-2004, 02:54 PM
:thumbsup berners recording is kick ass


better than the DUAD source?

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 03:29 PM
i only know of the 3 sources that are up on the groove...and berners is high quality

DMBfan14567
07-21-2004, 04:10 PM
so just to get this straight...Berners is the best, and it's available on the Groove?

BrahmaBull
07-21-2004, 06:33 PM
i hear there is a pic of dave, fenton and roi on the superman?

BrahmaBull
07-21-2004, 06:39 PM
hell with you guys... :lol found em... the roi/fenton shot is better

BrahmaBull
07-21-2004, 06:41 PM
you guys HAVE TO read this thread... http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=38813 they thought it was wyclef jean! hahaha

mxz440fan
07-21-2004, 07:04 PM
you guys HAVE TO read this thread... http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=38813 they thought it was wyclef jean! hahaha
haha, that one kid is a dumbass "carter"
i felt like hitting him. he even had two step in his sig :lol

DMBfan14567
07-21-2004, 07:07 PM
wow they're fucking retards.

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 07:15 PM
so just to get this straight...Berners is the best, and it's available on the Groove?



thats correct...it took me about 45 minutes to download earlier today...it was flyin

DMBfan14567
07-21-2004, 07:16 PM
thats correct...it took me about 45 minutes to download earlier today...it was flyin
excellent! I'm getting all over that like white on rice.

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 07:20 PM
are you home?

brockboi
07-21-2004, 07:21 PM
those pics are awesome...great work!

Rippy
07-21-2004, 07:26 PM
wow that fucking berner source from the groove is flyin!!!

DMBfan14567
07-21-2004, 07:27 PM
are you home?
yeah...got home 20 minutes ago...man, this source is FLYING!

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 07:30 PM
told ya :)

DMBfan14567
07-21-2004, 07:35 PM
yup, you were right. bow down to oh masterful Jeff.

mxz440fan
07-21-2004, 08:22 PM
yup, you were right. bow down to oh masterful Jeff.he gets a "masterful" and i get nothing? :(

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 08:24 PM
she should be givin you sexual favors for what you did

mxz440fan
07-21-2004, 08:28 PM
i know. you should too :p ;) :lol (in that order)

twosteppn36
07-21-2004, 08:31 PM
um....and im never speaking to you again :lol