Official Darien Lake 2004 Thread

[unccrombie]

well it's not SPAC but us NYers will have to appriciate it

[gregory311]

I'm not planning on this one anymore. Even though it's only 1/2 hour away, I just can't abide by that shitty, poorly-run, ill-equipped place.

I say that now. I'll probably get suckered into going anyway.

J.

[unccrombie]

yeah i really don't want to go either, not only for the same reasons as you said, but the shows there haven't impressed me. nor have the crowds :( i may end up going to hartford or tweeter

[MRGreySt.YNK]

I am there. I am kind of glad they're only playing here this summer. Its much more money friendly for me.

[jrcdmb40]

Im deciding beteween here, Hartford, or Tweeter.

[gregory311]

Last year really sealed the deal for me.

1. Bathrooms were totally unacceptable. Just fucking gross... I'm there to take a piss not stand in it.

2. Lawn crowd was awful. I've told the lawnchair throwing incident here more than once. Perhaps not allowing people to tailgate for 9 hours prior to the show would help that area. I'm all for tailgating, but no one needs to hit the sauce for nine freaking hours before a show. And they do.

3. Shitty beer selection. I want a frothy brew to cool off and enjoy. Not a $6 luke-warm Budweiser.

4. Lawn sound. The lawn is just not designed for good sound flow. It goes right over your head.

Why don't they play at the dome in 'Cuse? I'd go there.

J.

[unccrombie]

the acoustics at the dome are really shitty man. they'd have to spend a lot of money to design a good sound system to implement in the dome. what SU needs to do (like Notre Dame) is build a PAC, I think ND's hold around 6,000 people maybe 9,000 maximum

[DMBMike36]

Last year really sealed the deal for me.

1. Bathrooms were totally unacceptable. Just fucking gross... I'm there to take a piss not stand in it.

2. Lawn crowd was awful. I've told the lawnchair throwing incident here more than once. Perhaps not allowing people to tailgate for 9 hours prior to the show would help that area. I'm all for tailgating, but no one needs to hit the sauce for nine freaking hours before a show. And they do.

3. Shitty beer selection. I want a frothy brew to cool off and enjoy. Not a $6 luke-warm Budweiser.

4. Lawn sound. The lawn is just not designed for good sound flow. It goes right over your head.

Why don't they play at the dome in 'Cuse? I'd go there.

J.

yea, the acoustics in the dome suck and traffic would still be bad. That build is so old in comparison to most arenas and stadiums these days, it was built like 20 years ago

[unccrombie]

ever tried to park off campus for an SU game? :freak

[twosteppn36]

have you ever parked on campus for an su game? you cant, you have to have a permit to park in every fuckin lot...


but yeah...i guess i have to go to darien lake....but im disappointed

[mxz440fan]

already starting these threads..oh jeez.

i guess dariens my big show though, no spac, how wretched.

[The Sean]

i was about to start the thread, good thing i checked :)

now i can bring back my Darien FAQ thread, and possibly merge it with this or something

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65840

[DMBMike36]

have you ever parked on campus for an su game? you cant, you have to have a permit to park in every fuckin lot...


i know, thank god i live within walking distance

[SeekUp125]

I'll be there.

[unccrombie]

i was about to start the thread, good thing i checked :)

now i can bring back my Darien FAQ thread, and possibly merge it with this or something

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65840
please do, but i wanted to be #1 this year for official NY threads :D

[mxz440fan]

you'll be the only ny thread, otherthan "the official why is the band turning gay and not playing at spac thread"

[The Sean]

please do, but i wanted to be #1 this year for official NY threads :D
lol, yeah
well, i got the Blue Cross thread so im not too upset :D

[halloween21]

All I know is that this is really shitty and there should be spac dates. DAMN IT. Maybe there will be a DMB fest in NY but until then I'm pissed. F'n A.

[The Sean]

i was planning on skipping darien for spac this year :\ oh well

[The Sean]

Ordering Period Begins: 7:00 p.m., ET, Thursday February 26, 2004
Ordering Period Ends: 12:00 p.m. (noon), ET, Monday March 8, 2004
Order confirmations will be posted on or before Wednesday March 24, 2004

my warehouse membership expires at the end of march. i think i'll renew if i get confirmed. maybe.

[Jordan#41]

I'll be at Darian Lake... Im pumped to see DMB tear it up there!!!

[dancinancies090]

blah

[chris917]

I'll be at Darien, but since there is no SPAC, I'm going to look into going to Bonnaroo

[dobyblue]

If anyone drives past St. Catharines/Niagara Falls area on their way to Darien Lake show please pick me up!

[unccrombie]

Ordering Period Begins: 7:00 p.m., ET, Thursday February 26, 2004
Ordering Period Ends: 12:00 p.m. (noon), ET, Monday March 8, 2004
Order confirmations will be posted on or before Wednesday March 24, 2004

my warehouse membership expires at the end of march. i think i'll renew if i get confirmed. maybe.
i dunno if i'll order through WH. 2nd year member doesn't look to promising. did any of you wait in line last year?

i may order and sell...i don't know

[The Sean]

last year i was in Michigan when ticketmast tickets went on sale, so i had no choice at the time. thanks to the clearchannel getAccess promotion i managed to get 15th row seats as opposed to the level 500s that i got from the WH.

[twostep66]

this is probably my best option, though I just wish I knew where I'm going to be this summer. Home? Some city on internship? I don't know. Maybe I will before the order period expires.

[unccrombie]

I'll be at Darian Lake... Im pumped to see DMB tear it up there!!!
i heard the crowds suck, last year's set was mediocre compared to the rest of the tour. well seeing it's the only show in NY till maybe winter? it's gotta be good, right? :lol

and i swear...WAYG one more time and i pull out the colt .45

[twostep66]

last year's set was mediocre compared to the rest of the tour.

Serious? YNK, Kit Kat, Last Stop and Dreaming Tree alone made it a good set. At least I thought so.

edit: I do agree with your WAYG sentiments, tho.

[unccrombie]

Serious? YNK, Kit Kat, Last Stop and Dreaming Tree alone made it a good set. At least I thought so.

edit: I do agree with your WAYG sentiments, tho.
what made it not a good set was the crowd, my friend was in the 200s (i think its very close to the stage) and saidt it was shitty.

fingers crossed though

[The Sean]

so RCA said more dates will be released. dont count out spac yet

[The Sean]

im hoping for Pig, Two Step, Warehouse, Ants, and Crash at this show

[twostep66]

then it's not the set that was shitty, it was the venue itself, right? by set, i'm thinking of the list of songs, not the stage. I thought the set kicked ass (rarest show on my list, btw), but the crowd did suck. I was in the 400s, and the crowd wasn't great.

[The Sean]

crowd was just fine in the 100s :evil

[twostep66]

right in the middle of Lover Lay Down, some girl in front of me collapsed, not sure if it was from drugs, alcohol, or something else, but they called in the paramedics, and the entire song consisted of me trying to listen to the song while some EMT stood in front of me shouting at the girl over the music. That was the worst part of last year for me.

[unccrombie]

then it's not the set that was shitty, it was the venue itself, right? by set, i'm thinking of the list of songs, not the stage. I thought the set kicked ass (rarest show on my list, btw), but the crowd did suck. I was in the 400s, and the crowd wasn't great.
i guess, i take it back then :D

sean, where did RCA say they'd release more dates?

[twosteppn36]

i agree.....the crowd sucked last year....all around me people were talking, yelling, and laughing....and then the encore pissed me off...oh well, hopefully this year will be better

[unccrombie]

i agree.....the crowd sucked last year....all around me people were talking, yelling, and laughing....and then the encore pissed me off...oh well, hopefully this year will be better
i felt the WYA wrath at SPAC

here's to a new dmb album song in the encore

(raises chocolate milk glass)

[The Sean]

i guess, i take it back then :D

sean, where did RCA say they'd release more dates?i made a post in the main thread, lemme find it

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1526736&postcount=200

[twostep66]

here's to a new dmb album song in the encore

(raises chocolate milk glass)
:thumbsup
*raises diet pepsi glass in response*

[twosteppn36]

i felt the WYA wrath at SPAC

here's to a new dmb album song in the encore

(raises chocolate milk glass)



that WYA is actually my favorite out of all of em that ive seen


but that grace is gone/grey st encore left a bitter taste in my mouth

[mxz440fan]

i agree.....the crowd sucked last year....all around me people were talking, yelling, and laughing....and then the encore pissed me off...oh well, hopefully this year will be better
the NY crowds sucked for the whole summer last year. i thought spac crowds were even more wretched than dariens... not into everyday, watchtower, warehouse, etc...

[twosteppn36]

the NY crowds sucked for the whole summer last year. i thought spac crowds were even more wretched than dariens... not into everyday, watchtower, warehouse, etc...




spac night 2 last year i went up through the lawn to the concession and it was like teenie bopper central....im not talkin teenagers, im talkin like young teens...it was annoying..but oh well

[Behrend]

Darien is THE WORST VENUE I've ever attended in 30+ DMB shows. The parking alone is enough to never ever ever go there again. Anybody remember last year and how they didn't open the grass lot until like 3:00PM b/c they're a bunch of idiots? We brought everything to tailgate with including a grill and had to move off the pavement as soon as the lawn opened - we sat around for like 4 hours being HUNGRY and SOBER. DARIEN BLOWS. I'm so unhappy that they're playing there and not SPAC. Even though Darien is the closest venue to me it is an abomination. The sound sucks and the ampitheater itself is porrly designed - and don't even get me started about the toilets. . . DMB needs to find another WNY venue.

PS - SPAC is in my top three places to see DMB and it's a crime they're not playing there this year - I can't remember the last summer tour that they didn't play there.

Just wanted to share my frustration.

Thanks
S

[twosteppn36]

the fireworks show rocked though :lol

[unccrombie]

The reassembled Dave Matthews Band launches the outing in mid June, and is slated to hit amphitheaters throughout the U.S. and Canada until early September. More dates will be added, according to RCA Records, and ticket on-sale information hasn't been announced.

hmm, sounds odd to me, but hasn't ticket on-sale info already been released?
therefore, wouldn't all the dates be added? or...are they relasing more dates after on sale info in conjunction with the already scheduled dates?

[barefoot]

I totally agree about Darien it sucks. I go there because it is so close. If it was further you wouldnt be able to drag me there. Also all these threads suck. I hope they chop them off, one for every show is going to be annoying.

[unccrombie]

I totally agree about Darien it sucks. I go there because it is so close. If it was further you wouldnt be able to drag me there. Also all these threads suck. I hope they chop them off, one for every show is going to be annoying.
would you rather have 30 new ones everyday about the same god damn thing? this way all info is lumped together

[barefoot]

I dont see the point in an Official chat thread for every tour date. Pointless, waste of bandwidth that I am now contributing to.

[unccrombie]

:lol that's just you, sorry you feel that way

[maxxd97]

Darien's sound sucks.

But nothing beats my 15 year old brother telling me about how he saw some guy in front of him snort about 10-15 lines of coke throughout the show! :freak

[barefoot]

This is why I love my avatar, it sums up how I feel sometimes. :lol

[twosteppn36]

i cant remember...do they announce ticket prices when we request em or beforehand?

[unccrombie]

if you go to the tour dates page, click on the venue name (or date) they should be there

edit: here you go man

Reserved tickets are $56.50. Lawn tickets are $39.00. Parking is included in the ticket price.

[twosteppn36]

ah yes...i forgot about that...thanks a lot

[Dmbantgirl]

I am so upset no SPAC???? Anyways i guess i will live with Darien Lake. What ever happened to Finger Lakes??? They should go there instead of Darien Lake. Last year @ Darien we ahd to pick up are shit 1/2 way through partying and move to the grass since those assholes would not let us on the lawn. OH YEAH and camping there is like 150 a night and they are all strict about shit. :violent

[BSDaze004]

Why don't they play at the dome in 'Cuse? I'd go there.

J.


AMEN! :thumbsup

[BSDaze004]

and i swear...WAYG one more time and i pull out the colt .45
awww, john...i know 3 in a row is tough...but the song isn't that bad. Is it?

[The Sean]

3 in a row is

same goes for everyday. i mean, i like the songs, but enough is enough

[The Sean]

I am so upset no SPAC???? Anyways i guess i will live with Darien Lake. What ever happened to Finger Lakes??? They should go there instead of Darien Lake. Last year @ Darien we ahd to pick up are shit 1/2 way through partying and move to the grass since those assholes would not let us on the lawn. OH YEAH and camping there is like 150 a night and they are all strict about shit. :violenti have only ever heard bad things about finger lakes. every person i know who went to finger lakes vowed never to go to another dmb show. the crowd did them in mostly. oh well

[twosteppn36]

AMEN! :thumbsup





but with the dome...they have to get an ok from the school and go through all that campus jazz....which i doubt the school would approve


but 50,000 people in the dome watchin dmb would be sweet and loud as hell

[unccrombie]

3 in a row is

same goes for everyday. i mean, i like the songs, but enough is enough
ED is one song i can't ever argue about, cmon!

hani hani...

doesn't it make you smile? :D

[twosteppn36]

ED is one song i can't ever argue about, cmon!

hani hani...

doesn't it make you smile? :D



wouldnt it be great if we started with the hani hanis and they just busted out a full #36

[The Sean]

i'd like a LIOG>pig>LIOG reprise

[unccrombie]

wouldnt it be great if we started with the hani hanis and they just busted out a full #36
right after we get the liog-->pig-->liog reprise

[The Sean]

which will go straight into say goodbye which would be followed by dmb's cover of enter sandman

[unccrombie]

which will go straight into say goodbye which would be followed by dmb's cover of enter sandman
followed by Poland overthrowing the USA...ah...only during tour season :)

[mxz440fan]

followed by Poland overthrowing the USA...ah...only during tour season :)
and poland being overthrown by the no spac, i'm going to die clan

[The Sean]

and poland being overthrown by the no spac, i'm going to die clan
:lol good one

[unccrombie]

and poland being overthrown by the no spac, i'm going to die clan
kudos

[dragonfly102884]

I'll hopefully be going to Darien Lake. Hershey's closer but I'm camping until the 10th.

[unccrombie]

here's a conversation i just had with one of my close friends. im sure ya'll find it interesting (edit for your viewing enjoyment)


JEAS1341 (7:49:02 PM): spac hasnt announced any of its dates yet
JEAS1341 (7:49:04 PM): yeah
JEAS1341 (7:49:10 PM): i know it just says dl
UNCcrombie (7:49:12 PM): ...i dont understand
JEAS1341 (7:49:29 PM): but spac wont release who is comin for like another month
JEAS1341 (7:49:47 PM): spac releases all their shows at the same time
UNCcrombie (7:49:56 PM): so that gap...around the 4th of july weekend is spac possible?
JEAS1341 (7:50:07 PM): when are they playin DL
UNCcrombie (7:50:11 PM): 7.13
JEAS1341 (7:50:22 PM): yeah they will play spac prolly sometime around then
JEAS1341 (7:50:47 PM): they never release their spac dates until late
UNCcrombie (7:50:47 PM): why does spac withhold though? and why cant dmb report it? is spac anal or something?
JEAS1341 (7:50:53 PM): no
JEAS1341 (7:51:08 PM): but they never release their spac date right away
UNCcrombie (7:51:13 PM): they did last year?
JEAS1341 (7:51:21 PM): yeah
UNCcrombie (7:51:37 PM): but thats cuz they announced the tour later?
JEAS1341 (7:51:59 PM): no bc they didnt have a date from spac yer
JEAS1341 (7:52:00 PM): yet
UNCcrombie (7:52:14 PM): ah, well still hope i guess
JEAS1341 (7:52:27 PM): yeah they will play spac
JEAS1341 (7:52:29 PM): they always do
UNCcrombie (7:52:43 PM): i hope yer right, i really dont wanna go to darien
JEAS1341 (7:53:01 PM): they prolly will play after the mass shows
JEAS1341 (7:57:35 PM): they only have 3 shows listed
JEAS1341 (7:57:38 PM): im lookin at it right now
UNCcrombie (7:57:50 PM): send me their link
JEAS1341 (8:00:12 PM): john trust me
JEAS1341 (8:00:14 PM): i know spac
UNCcrombie (8:00:15 PM): i shall
JEAS1341 (8:00:24 PM): my fam has been goin to shows there since the 70s
JEAS1341 (8:00:29 PM): thats my dads fave place to see a show
JEAS1341 (8:00:47 PM): they only have 3 dates set
JEAS1341 (8:00:52 PM): im lookin at it right now
JEAS1341 (8:00:54 PM): on pollstar
UNCcrombie (8:00:57 PM): ok,i believe ya

please dont IM her, please. i'm just relaying info, not giving out talk to passes

[crushnancy]

If anyone drives past St. Catharines/Niagara Falls area on their way to Darien Lake show please pick me up!

I'll be there!!!

[brockboi]

dobyblue: you have a ride if i'm around. and we've gotta get together for beers sometime soon. i'm gone this weekend tho!

as for another venue in WNY area, what about HSBC? i've never seen a show there, but it's a new arena, can't be that bad is it? DL is outside which is a bonus, but with all the shit (parking, drunks, losers!) from last year would HSBC be that bad of an idea. so easy to get in and out of HSBC compared to DL as well.

also, for people who don't wanna go to DL, got to the toronto show. it's an outdoor venue, sweet set-up, great sound, downtown toronto...and only two hours from darien lake of highway driving.

[twosteppn36]

dobyblue: you have a ride if i'm around. and we've gotta get together for beers sometime soon. i'm gone this weekend tho!

as for another venue in WNY area, what about HSBC? i've never seen a show there, but it's a new arena, can't be that bad is it? DL is outside which is a bonus, but with all the shit (parking, drunks, losers!) from last year would HSBC be that bad of an idea. so easy to get in and out of HSBC compared to DL as well.

also, for people who don't wanna go to DL, got to the toronto show. it's an outdoor venue, sweet set-up, great sound, downtown toronto...and only two hours from darien lake of highway driving.


id rather see them play at ralph wilson again...outdoor venues are better in the summer

i went to toronto last year and had a blast...right on lake ontario, you have atlantis right next door and an after party there after the show

[brockboi]

holy shit i forgot about ralph wilson!!!! that would be classic, again! 70,000+ people in there! bills can't afford to have their field tampered with tho...thats all they have left.
did anyone go to that RW show or any show in RW for that matter? how is it there?
Toronto last year was the best concert i have ever seen in my life and maybe the best i will ever see. went to downtown Toronto early in the day after getting back from Montreal the night before, drank all afternoon (but i am Canadian and can hold my beer, unlike MOST at Darien last year, and this is not a shot at Americans), walked to the ampa. and DMB played an amazing show. can only hope for a show half as good as last years.

[twosteppn36]

i was at the ralph wilson show in 2001....great show except for macy gray opening...


the security in canada is nothing compared to security here...they didnt search the guys and only checked the girls purses...which was sweet...and yes...it was a great show

[brockboi]

Canada's security is def. lax compared to you guys. but during high threat times in the US Canada's security does get upped as well. i've had more trouble getting back into Canada recently then getting into the states. i was searched last year at the Toronto show and i said to the girl "do i look that threatenin?" and the girl doing it said "we only frisk the hot guys"! made me feel a bit better!

[mxz440fan]

Canada's security is def. lax compared to you guys. but during high threat times in the US Canada's security does get upped as well. i've had more trouble getting back into Canada recently then getting into the states. i was searched last year at the Toronto show and i said to the girl "do i look that threatenin?" and the girl doing it said "we only frisk the hot guys"! made me feel a bit better!
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ;)

[The Sean]

boom kid

[gregory311]

RW in 2001 was good, but that won't happen again.

Shit, they re-routed the Boss to Darien Lake this past year.

HSBC is not the best places for concerts, though. People like to tailgate and that isn't going to happen there. And it really depends on the PA that they bring in. I saw the Eagles last year and sat at the far end of the lower bowl and that was very good.

Last time I saw DMB there was in 99 and it was kind of muddy at points. Floor I hear was fine.

J.

[The Sean]

HSBC acoustics suck

[unccrombie]

not to get off topic, but real quick:

i was browing on the tour dates page, and it said (under DL) that you can get an all day (same day) park pass for an extra $9 when you buy with TM. is it possible to get this through WH? dilema is, we want to go to the park before hand. but if i get my tickets elsewhere i'd have to pay full price for the park

[#40BigEyedFish]

i wish it was bills stadium (ralph wilson) over darien lake........cause darien lake is a horrible acoustic place for dmb to play cause its a flat seating area.......jesus even go to finger lakes pac if its even open. or spac..........all i know is i m gonna end up w/ wh lawn if i m lucky cause even one in nys is goin to that show

[unccrombie]

all i know is i m gonna end up w/ wh lawn if i m lucky cause even one in nys is goin to that show

some will boycott, but i just realized that too. it's time to get ticket serious :devil most (not all) may go to NJ or MA. i would if I could, but it's not looking good

[2SteppingAnt41]

i've been to darien for dave twice now... both times BLEW in the lawn, and BLEW EVEN WORSE trying to get the hell home. i guess i'll just go cause it's close and no SPAC. :-(

[unccrombie]

i've been to darien for dave twice now... both times BLEW in the lawn, and BLEW EVEN WORSE trying to get the hell home. i guess i'll just go cause it's close and no SPAC. :-(
from what i've been hearing form the SPAC board members, we have a chance

[MistreatedLewis]

from what i've been hearing form the SPAC board members, we have a chance

Can you divulge what they have said about it? Are there open talks with the band currently? Is there a major reason why it wasn't booked yet?

I went to Darien Lake last year and it was a great time, but it is kind of a shitty venue. And I don't even think I could make it there this year. My best bets look like Hartford and Hershey. But the seltlist from Darien last year was awesome, with the exception of the disappointing encore. One of the best Dreaming Trees I have ever heard.

[unccrombie]

read the convo i posted above, a lot of that is going on, it'll explain things

[The Sean]

not to get off topic, but real quick:

i was browing on the tour dates page, and it said (under DL) that you can get an all day (same day) park pass for an extra $9 when you buy with TM. is it possible to get this through WH? dilema is, we want to go to the park before hand. but if i get my tickets elsewhere i'd have to pay full price for the parkget WH and TM, keep the better pair

[gregory311]

I know this is in Sean's FAQ about Darien Lake, but it's worth repeating:

If you go to the park before the show, you can park near the entrance of the parking lot. You can't really tailgate as well up there, but you'll be on your way home in no time at all. After the show last year I was back in Amherst in 30 minutes from the last song.

It's well worth the extra $10 or whatever I paid last year to do it.

J.

[unccrombie]

get WH and TM, keep the better pair
obviously, but if i can't get TM reserved (i'll be camping) then is the ride pass not an option unless i buy full?

[The Sean]

funny thing is, last year i got out of the lot in 11 minutes. (after hanging around for an hour) skipped so many people. it was cool.
i also got there with minimal traffic by getting off the thruway at exit 48, not 48A. we almost got lost in the backroads but we made it, snuck past another line of traffic there too.
i just wish i knew about the other merch stand being empty

[DMB-CRAZY]

I'm excited for this one, since I havent been to NY state before!!!

[DMB-CRAZY]

And I'm finally a warehouse member, so maybe I'll meet some ANTS finally!!

[brockboi]

i was browing on the tour dates page, and it said (under DL) that you can get an all day (same day) park pass for an extra $9 when you buy with TM. is it possible to get this through WH?
Even if you don't get the park pass with the WH tickets, you can purchase a park pass for around $10 at the front gate. Last year i got TM tickets without the park pass and paid for the park pass at the front gate.

[twostepfan]

The only good thing about Darien Lake is the park. The venue, the parking, the walk and the lines to get into the venue is the armpit of NY! Last year the band didn't seem like they enjoyed playing there. It is such a terrible place, they should have gone to SPAC!!

[The Sean]

i like the fireworks that go on around 10pm. and the video screen shot of leroi with the Viper coaster in the background was awesome during #41

[twosteppn36]

i like the fireworks that go on around 10pm. and the video screen shot of leroi with the Viper coaster in the background was awesome during #41




:thumbsup


thats weird because after i read the post above yours, i thought the exact same thing...the coaster goin with the sunset behind it...that was sweet

[twosteppn36]

ahhhhhhhhhh.....found it...here it is

[unccrombie]

Even if you don't get the park pass with the WH tickets, you can purchase a park pass for around $10 at the front gate. Last year i got TM tickets without the park pass and paid for the park pass at the front gate.
so basically the concert ticket acts as a discount coupon?

[gregory311]

so basically the concert ticket acts as a discount coupon?

Yes, it does.

Regular admission to the park is a lot more expensive. (Like $25 per person or something.)

Last year I drove up around 4:30 pm and went right into the park lot, not the concert lot. Paid $20 or so for two park passes and got something to eat before the show.

J.

[unccrombie]

Yes, it does.

Regular admission to the park is a lot more expensive. (Like $25 per person or something.)

Last year I drove up around 4:30 pm and went right into the park lot, not the concert lot. Paid $20 or so for two park passes and got something to eat before the show.

J.
nice, i havent decided how long to be at the park. not long nough to be tired, but enough to have enough time to do stuff with the lines.

how much were you able to do at 4:30?

[unccrombie]

no more tour dates, at least that's what they say
my email to the WH explains it all :( sorry all

> I've read (from RCA) there is a possibilty that DMB will release more tour
> dates? is this a rumor? Reason I ask is everyone around the forums is
> wondering why SPAC was left out, and there is a schedule gap between June 30 (Toronto) and July 9th (MA).
>
> Best regards,
>
> John B.

response...

While the band would love to play everywhere it is just not possible for
them to do so. As far as we know, the dates posted are the only tourdates. We hope to see
you at a show this summer.

Cheers!

[DMB-CRAZY]

I have no idea about Darien Center at all...how is the venue? Should I arrive at the concert fairly early, in regards to parking and such? How far is it from the border to Canada?

[brockboi]

I have no idea about Darien Center at all...how is the venue? Should I arrive at the concert fairly early, in regards to parking and such? How far is it from the border to Canada?
for me, i thought THE VENUE was a good one. not amazing, but good. you have the park which is a ton of fun and it's a nice outdoor venue IMO. last year i spent the full day in the park and then got to go to the concert, so it was kinda like two days in one if you know what i mean. i suggest a full day in the park for anyone, if they're not going to be too run down. you can drink in the park too, bonus! the reason why i am not a big fan of DMB being in darien lake was the people from last year. i don't expect people to be angels at concerts or even civil, but it was brutal. if you check out some of the posts from the 2003 thead i'm sure you'll see what i'm talking about. parking is BRUTAL there too. they jam waaaaaaaaay too many people in a lot with one basic exit. it's just terrible.

as for coming from canada. it's not far at all, and pretty easy to get to. it takes less than an hour to get from the border to the park.

[brockboi]

check out
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65840&highlight=darien
if you haven't already

[DMB-CRAZY]

Thanks so much, I am so excited for the tour now..I may consider going to the park beforehand as well! :)

[chrrie]

i'll definitely be there, i just dont have it in me to drive more than 2 hours...unless i get some nice offers for toronto... :)

[gregory311]

nice, i havent decided how long to be at the park. not long nough to be tired, but enough to have enough time to do stuff with the lines.

how much were you able to do at 4:30?

I've been there a million times so I wasn't in there for the rides and stuff. Got a beer or two and something to eat just to kill some time.

It's during the week so lines aren't as long for things as they are on the weekend. I suggest hitting Superman, the Viper, and the Mind Eraser. If you got there around 4-4:30 you should have enough time to hit up some rides and get some grub/beverage.

J.

[MistreatedLewis]

Pretty depressing. I am not going to hold out on SPAC... if it gets booked, great. If not, there are other reasonable venues...

no more tour dates, at least that's what they say
my email to the WH explains it all :( sorry all

> I've read (from RCA) there is a possibilty that DMB will release more tour
> dates? is this a rumor? Reason I ask is everyone around the forums is
> wondering why SPAC was left out, and there is a schedule gap between June 30 (Toronto) and July 9th (MA).
>
> Best regards,
>
> John B.

response...

While the band would love to play everywhere it is just not possible for
them to do so. As far as we know, the dates posted are the only tourdates. We hope to see
you at a show this summer.

Cheers!

[gregory311]

no more tour dates, at least that's what they say
my email to the WH explains it all :( sorry all

> I've read (from RCA) there is a possibilty that DMB will release more tour
> dates? is this a rumor? Reason I ask is everyone around the forums is
> wondering why SPAC was left out, and there is a schedule gap between June 30 (Toronto) and July 9th (MA).
>
> Best regards,
>
> John B.

response...

While the band would love to play everywhere it is just not possible for
them to do so. As far as we know, the dates posted are the only tourdates. We hope to see
you at a show this summer.

Cheers!

This information should be stickied in the tour forum. If it becomes untrue and they release more tix, take 'er down.

J.

[The J2H]

so what is all of your opinions...

i'm just looking for another new place to go this year. darien is relatively close (5 hours) from me. do you think it's worth the drive to maybe go to the show, spend a day at the park, or something like that?

[unccrombie]

This information should be stickied in the tour forum. If it becomes untrue and they release more tix, take 'er down.

J.
I PM'd Mark, but haven't had a response from him. also posted it in the official tour dates forum

[The Sean]

Mark, or Matt?

[unccrombie]

Mark, or Matt?
matt, mistyped

[gregory311]

so what is all of your opinions...

i'm just looking for another new place to go this year. darien is relatively close (5 hours) from me. do you think it's worth the drive to maybe go to the show, spend a day at the park, or something like that?

I don't know where else your planning on going, but PG Pavillion is way better than Darien Lake. If you haven't been there, go.

DL is not a great venue, but if you like tailgating and shit it doesn't get any better as you can get into the lot around 9-9:30 even though the park doesn't officially open until 10.

matt, mistyped

I PM'd him, too. :)

J.

[The Sean]

i asked matt to move the FAQ thread into this forum

[gregory311]

i asked matt to move the FAQ thread into this forum

How'd that Minnie Ripperton tune work out for you?

J.

[The Sean]

How'd that Minnie Ripperton tune work out for you?

J.:lol it worked just fine. thanks

now i gotta find me a non-corrupted version of Dream On. but im at school so the hub should have it
*goes to look for it*

[brockboi]

i'm just looking for another new place to go this year. darien is relatively close (5 hours) from me. do you think it's worth the drive to maybe go to the show, spend a day at the park, or something like that?
darien is great b/c of the park if you're into that. for myself, i'd say spend the two extra hours on the HWY and hit up toronto. better venue and usually shows IMO.

[unccrombie]

I PM'd him, too. :)


i did, no reponse yet

[greels1]

I'll definitely go to this. Ill prolly hit up the park too. make it a nice lil tuesday. So i hope i see you all there

[unccrombie]

(topper)

ya'll request yet?

[DMB-CRAZY]

I requested on Thursday...*crosses fingers* I hope to get good seats...It's my first tour being a Warehouse member...I joined in October 2003.

[unccrombie]

i suggest waiting in line at a TM as well, sell the crappier seats

[crushnancy]

I think I am going to order off TM also, just incase. Last year I got really good seats from....except I got over excited and hit the back button out of habit and lost them! I will NOT do that this year!

I too just joined the WH in September so I am not expecting much....but one can hope!

[unccrombie]

what'd you get off TM last year?

[The Sean]

i suggest waiting in line at a TM as well, sell the crappier seatsi would never wait in line. not when theres the internet

[The Sean]

(topper)

ya'll request yet?
i requested. i will be a 2nd year by the time the request period is over, hopefully it makes a difference, though i know it wont.

last year i got 503, row 3 from WH. then i got 102 row 15 through TM :D i'll try them again this year too :)

[unccrombie]

i would never wait in line. not when theres the internet
im a 56ker :lol

i'm only taking ticktets in section 100, 200, 300. anything after 300 can lick my nuts :)

[The Sean]

im a 56ker :lol

i'm only taking ticktets in section 100, 200, 300. anything after 300 can lick my nuts :)
ok youre excused. but you should find a broadband buddy.

this tour ive got RIT's internet connection, so that should help even more.
i just have to remember that my seats last year were a fluke and wont happen all the time

[brockboi]

last year i got montreal floor seats about 2 hours after tickets went on sale. i couldn't believe it. got 200s in toronto through TM and lawn at Darien. i'm going to try TM and anyone with extra tickets to this show i'd prob. take as well b/c quite a few of my friends are going.

[unccrombie]

ok youre excused. but you should find a broadband buddy.

this tour ive got RIT's internet connection, so that should help even more.
i just have to remember that my seats last year were a fluke and wont happen all the time
all my buddies around here are goin to darien, it's an evil competition. we actually have a pool on who will get the best seats

[DMB-CRAZY]

i suggest waiting in line at a TM as well, sell the crappier seats

IF I went with both TM and WH, would I have a good chance of getting rid of the ones I didnt need?

[unccrombie]

yes, you would

[mxz440fan]

all my buddies around here are goin to darien, it's an evil competition. we actually have a pool on who will get the best seats
loser pays for tickets? maybe i should try that out, save some cash, eh

[unccrombie]

loser pays for tickets? maybe i should try that out, save some cash, eh
$10 to get in on it, winner gets $100, so basically 1 ticket, gas, and some munchies

[The Sean]

IF I went with both TM and WH, would I have a good chance of getting rid of the ones I didnt need?especially for a rochester area show. extremely high demand

[nicknack]

i'll be at this one to, but not by boat like toronto.

[crushnancy]

what'd you get off TM last year?

I got through to TM right away and we got 4 tickets in section 100 - I could have kicked myself for pressing hte back button and ending up with lawns! :twak

[unccrombie]

I got through to TM right away and we got 4 tickets in section 100 - I could have kicked myself for pressing hte back button and ending up with lawns! :twak
:lol and :lol again

[crushnancy]

but it is soooooo not funny!

[unccrombie]

to me it is :) better luck this year

[The Sean]

4 seats in 100's. wow

[crushnancy]

Yeah, I suck....keep your fingers crossed for me this year!

[somedevil22]

hey ,Ill be going to Darien Lake for the third straight year i hear its not the best venue but i always have a good time there. This year i was thinking about goign to toronto and star lake to but i was wondering i should go to 2 nights at starlake and no toronto or 1 starlake and 1 toronto? for any one that has been there before.

[scotty12]

What are the nicest hotels close by to Darien?
Anyone who has stayed over there in past years, would you do it in the same place again?

[The Sean]

highest ratio of nicest to closest would have to be the actual hotel that 6 flags runs. besides that, idk. somewhere in batavia maybe?

[rossything]

especially for a rochester area show. extremely high demand



more like high demand because its a buffalo area show. alot of people never relize that darien is buffalo's ampitheater. I am from Buffalo and I will admit it does suck and the flpac is alot better. But the boys are very big in buffalo seeing how they played Ralph Wilson Stadium 2 years in a row.

[The Sean]

i know at least 3 people who will never see another dmb show because of FLPAC. not the venue itself, but the concertgoers

[somedevil22]

i know at least 3 people who will never see another dmb show because of FLPAC. not the venue itself, but the concertgoers
what is flpac? never heard of it. Or did you mean dlpac.

[The Sean]

Finger Lakes PAC

[brockboi]

how is that place for a venue? never been there. do they still get big name shows?

[unccrombie]

i heard it was a good venue, kinda on the small to medium size, just crappy with security and such

[mxz440fan]

i heard it was a good venue, kinda on the small to medium size, just crappy with security and such
flpac... sure sounds like a shitbox

[unccrombie]

flpac... sure sounds like a shitbox
just sayin what i heard

[mxz440fan]

just sayin what i heardi've never been there, i was just saying the name makes it sound like it sucks- from the name

[DMB-CRAZY]

I was just wondering if anyone has any information on good places to stay in this area, that are cheaper in price (american exchange always kills me!)? Even if there are places across the border into Canada? Thanks!

[sabres8182]

I was just wondering if anyone has any information on good places to stay in this area, that are cheaper in price (american exchange always kills me!)? Even if there are places across the border into Canada? Thanks!


you are not going to want to drive back to canada after the show... the parking lot is a mess. they have campgrounds there and darien lake also has a hotel that you could stay at.

[crushnancy]

It is too far to drive back to Ontario after the show.

Last year it took us 3 hours to get out of the parking lot and another 3 to get home (just north of Toronto). Stay at Darien if you can....I have gotten smart 3rd time around and am staying the night.

[brockboi]

i know the parking lot is absolutely terrible there, but it wasn't too bad for myself. maybe it's because we were at the park all day and hat a decent spot. but i was back in st. catharines (over an hour away) within 2 hours of the last song.

as for places to stay, talk with me closer to the date...maybe some people can stay at my place here in st. catharines if you don't wanna stay at the park.

[mxz440fan]

as for places to stay, talk with me closer to the date...maybe some people can stay at my place here in st. catharines if you don't wanna stay at the park.
PARTY AT BROCK'S HOUSE!


toga toga toga

[scotty12]

Is the darien hotel nice?

[unccrombie]

Is the darien hotel nice?
expensive i'd imagine seeing it's on site

[sabres8182]

Is the darien hotel nice?


never been to the darien hotel, but it looks pretty nice. I also think there is a minimum stay of 2 nights

[dpresti]

sleepy hallow campsite.. ... about 4 minutes from Darien lake.. make your reservations now, great campsite!

and yes last year the sound SUCKED at the dave show at darien lake, worst dave show i've seen in buffalo... and the parking lots are sweet for partying but horrible for getting outta there..

:hug

[The Sean]

not sure if im goin anymore, what with the festival and all. i dunno

[dpresti]

so whats the deal with the festival? its deffinetly on july 4th in nyc and its 2 days?

[crushnancy]

I can't believe the prices of the campgrounds at Darien, or the RV rates! THat is so expensive! I think I will drive home after all...

[dpresti]

I can't believe the prices of the campgrounds at Darien, or the RV rates! THat is so expensive! I think I will drive home after all...

i'll repeat myself, sleepy hallow campgrounds...check them out, great site, and cheap

[unccrombie]

not sure if im goin anymore, what with the festival and all. i dunno
same with me, figure $130 for 2 day pass + lodging + train tickets + food... as of now its looking to be only the festival unless i can work some OT

how do you plan on going down?

[crushnancy]

i'll repeat myself, sleepy hallow campgrounds...check them out, great site, and cheap\

I am going to check it out now....is there a website? Phone number?

Thanks

[scotty12]

minimum 2 night stay = bullshit..

did someone mention something about parking in driveways nearby darien?
Does anyone local have more information on this?

[The Sean]

had a temp charge, no real charges yet :(

[The Sean]

how do you plan on going down?well, my best friend has grandparents in brooklyn, and he goes down there every summer. he said this year his rents would let him take his car down there, (now that he has one). maybe i could talk him into going to the festival when he's there. i surprised him by taking him to darien last year, and he's love to see more live dmb. but then again, it might not work. :\

[unccrombie]

well, my best friend has grandparents in brooklyn, and he goes down there every summer. he said this year his rents would let him take his car down there, (now that he has one). maybe i could talk him into going to the festival when he's there. i surprised him by taking him to darien last year, and he's love to see more live dmb. but then again, it might not work. :\
always worth a shot, sounds like a good plan though :thumbsup

[The Sean]

i have been charged for reserved seats through WH

[Rippy]

so does that mean you officially have seats?

[The Sean]

im pretty sure. i dont think they can/would take back this charge. so yes, i do have seats. dont know where they are though :\ gonna try TM as well

[Rippy]

we wont find out exact seats for the darien show until about late june correct?

[The Sean]

probably not, if the WH continues what its done since last summer. it blows.

[unccrombie]

i have been charged for reserved seats through WH
nice, i haven't gotten any yet, doesn't mean a thing though i hope

[crushnancy]

I haven't either....not worried either

[crushnancy]

YEAHHHHHHHHH! I got confirmed charges for the T.O show and Darien show today on my credit card!!!!

[unccrombie]

confirmations must be soon if they're dishing out officials

[DMB-CRAZY]

I got charged for both TO and DL on my card too, I am so stoked! I hope we find out the seats soon, but I'll get TM tickets anyways, and sell the ones I dont want!

[unccrombie]

I got charged for both TO and DL on my card too, I am so stoked! I hope we find out the seats soon, but I'll get TM tickets anyways, and sell the ones I dont want!

seat locations are given approx. 2 weeks before the show

[crushnancy]

I was going to get TM tickets too this year but with buying a new house and moving inbetween the two shows I can't afford them! As long as I don't have to sit on the lawn I don't care if I am last row!!!

Congrats everyone!!! 3 months and 2 1/2 weeks until the show!!!

[unccrombie]

confirmed for 2 reserved :) now on to TM

[mxz440fan]

confirmed for 2, i'll see y'all there!

[unccrombie]

confirmed for 2, i'll see y'all there!
yay, you trying for TM as well?

[DMB-CRAZY]

Confirmed for 2 reserved!!! Getting TM as well though

[somedevil22]

confirmed for 2 lawn, but that is where all my friends will be. I will have pittsburg to have good seats.

[scotty12]

Looking very forward to this show...taking my gf, it will be her first dave show (its about time I get her hooked!)

[The Sean]

Confirmed for 2 reserved!!! Getting TM as well thoughme too

[twosteppn36]

confirmed for reserved....but my friend is sellin me his tickets :)

[mxz440fan]

yay, you trying for TM as well?
i might, i have a couple friends that want to go, so i may get a couple extra's and sell them the worse ones :p

[crushnancy]

I got confirmed reserved!!!! No more sitting in the pukey lawn!!!

[BDRead17]

seat locations are given approx. 2 weeks before the show
I think it will be different this year. When I called them a few days ago, they said they thought they'd have them up by the end of March. I got 2 reserved with a 5 year membership...so I am hoping for something sweet.

[The Sean]

maybe last year they experimented with releasing seat locations late, found out that it didnt work, and are back to their normal ways

[mxz440fan]

maybe last year they experimented with releasing seat locations late, found out that it didnt work, and are back to their normal ways
i like this idea/theory :thumbsup

[Rippy]

i like this idea/theory :thumbsup

and maybe Robert Randolph and the Family Band will be our opener :thumbsup

[The Sean]

or the flecktones :thumbsup

[unccrombie]

I think it will be different this year. When I called them a few days ago, they said they thought they'd have them up by the end of March. I got 2 reserved with a 5 year membership...so I am hoping for something sweet.
i posted that before the WH email with confirmations. in it they said locations will be forthcomming in the next few weeks

[Rippy]

i posted that before the WH email with confirmations. in it they said locations will be forthcomming in the next few weeks

so we will be getting seat locations soon unlike last year where we waited till rigfht before the show?

[unccrombie]

so we will be getting seat locations soon unlike last year where we waited till rigfht before the show?
that's what i get out of it, who knows if they'll hold to it

[unccrombie]

good luck with TM tomarrow all, i'll be home from camping around 11am, best of luck :evil

[crushnancy]

4 minutes after they went on sale from TM I could only get LAWN! So, I still have my reserved WH tickets. Will have to try for good ones for Toronto show.

How did everyone else do? Did anyone else try to get good seats? I was only going to pay for TM tickets if I could get 100's or close 200's.

[barefoot]

I do the same thing, I was on when they went on sale and the best I got was 2nd row sec 400 :lol

[Let It Be]

Sec 203, Row 3

[brockboi]

i was refreshing from about 9:57 and when they came up i could only get lawns as well. i'm thinking lawn was really all that was available.

[DaveTim322]

two tickets in 301, row 12 and a single ticket in 101, row 10

[brockboi]

:thumbsup Sec 203, Row 3
the one and only with seats!!! kidding, but you're lucky, there couldn't have been all that many tickets available in the theatre.

okay, once again ticketmaster F'd me. i was lucky that my room mate was up and could use his computer. for the rochester show i had some floor seats and everything and it says the "type in this word" thing. when i would type in the word it wouldn't work and it would say there was an Error. well i have since gotten a new computer and when i went to type in the word it f'd up again!!!! i couldn't believe it. i'm not a dumbass that can't read the word or something, it just wouldn't work again. i'm going to talk with TM about this b/c man that sucks when you have sweet ass tickets and the "type in a word" thing messes up!

[unccrombie]

section 200 row 4, seats 17 & 18

i'm a sexy sexy boy :)

[Rippy]

section 202 row 13 :thumbsup

[kasquith]

section 200 row 4, seats 17 & 18

i'm a sexy sexy boy :)
That's awesome - I was section 200, row 3 last year. It was a great view.

[unccrombie]

That's awesome - I was section 200, row 3 last year. It was a great view.
how far back is it? like 30 rows?

[Rippy]

how far back is it? like 30 rows?

sounds right

[kasquith]

If I remember correctly, the 100s are about 17 rows deep. Then there is an pathway and a couple VIP "boxes" before the 200s. But still, you're closer to a row 20 mark than row 30.

As well, my ticket stub from last year says I was sec 200, row 3, seat 17. And I was on the aisle. So I'm guessing you are aisle too.

[unccrombie]

If I remember correctly, the 100s are about 17 rows deep. Then there is an pathway and a couple VIP "boxes" before the 200s. But still, you're closer to a row 20 mark than row 30.

As well, my ticket stub from last year says I was sec 200, row 3, seat 17. And I was on the aisle. So I'm guessing you are aisle too.
so i got some kick ass seats? they sound incredible

[DMB34O1]

sec 303 row 13...but i was having tons of problems...i got those at like 10:30

[Rippy]

i have a single ticket for sale. sec 204 row 7. face value. anyone interested?

[SeekUp125]

Sec 202 Row 11 (2)
Sec 201 Row 13 (2)
Warehouse Reserved (2)

Not sure which pair I'll be in and where my friends will be yet. I'll have the best pair though.

[brockboi]

Sec 202 Row 11 (2)
Sec 201 Row 13 (2)
Warehouse Reserved (2)

Not sure which pair I'll be in and where my friends will be yet. I'll have the best pair though.

if you're selling any tickets i might be interested. all i could get was lawn through TM and i was on there at 10 sharp!

[Rippy]

if you're selling any tickets i might be interested. all i could get was lawn through TM and i was on there at 10 sharp!


anyone get 100 level through ticketmaster?

[SeekUp125]

if you're selling any tickets i might be interested. all i could get was lawn through TM and i was on there at 10 sharp!
I might might might be selling, but I'd have to find a better pair first. Drop me a line at rltelesca@hotmail.com and you'll be the first one I contact if I do.

[SeekUp125]

anyone get 100 level through ticketmaster?
I've NEVER seen anyone get 100s TM on sale date that weren't singles.

[Rippy]

I've NEVER seen anyone get 100s TM on sale date that weren't singles.

i remember last year some kid got 2 tix 13th row center

[mxz440fan]

section 202 row 13 :thumbsupi'm a couple rows ahead of you ;) row 7

originally had 2 for sec402, thought it was bullshit because i got in so quick, so i ditched those two got two singles, 202 (7) and 203 (row 10). will probably have to just move the 203 to 202 or vica verca.

[SeekUp125]

i remember last year some kid got 2 tix 13th row center
Darien Lake pavillion is so small though, that anything back through the mid 300's is good.

[Rippy]

i'm a couple rows ahead of you ;) row 7

originally had 2 for sec402, thought it was bullshit because i got in so quick, so i ditched those two got two singles, 202 (7) and 203 (row 10). will probably have to just move the 203 to 202 or vica verca.


200s are good seats

[brockboi]

I've NEVER seen anyone get 100s TM on sale date that weren't singles.
last year i got row about row 25 in the middle of the stage through TM in Montreal. i could have gotten much much better, but i bought Toronto first, then Darien then tried Montreal and still got floor that close. that was two tickets.

[MRGreySt.YNK]

Section 201 row 5, sweet.

[Rippy]

:goat

[The Sean]

Sec 202 Row 11 (2)
Sec 201 Row 13 (2)
Warehouse Reserved (2)

Not sure which pair I'll be in and where my friends will be yet. I'll have the best pair though.i'll trade you my 203s row 10 for the ticketmaster pair you dont take. theres no reason parker or cooper deserve a better view than me

[The Sean]

Darien Lake pavillion is so small though, that anything back through the mid 300's is good.its mostly just the crowd that deteriorates past the 300s. ive heard many bad experiences back there, whereas i had a blast up in the 100s

[Rippy]

anyone have 100 level for this show?? havnt heard from anyone yet..........

[unccrombie]

anyone have 100 level for this show?? havnt heard from anyone yet..........
have you checked the bridge or nancies?

[Rippy]

have you checked the bridge or nancies?


no not really. just wondering if someone got lucky on TM.

[dmb41er]

i wonder if corn nuts will make its reappearance this year:lol

great times in parkin lot 03... cant wait for the show this year

[Rippy]

i wonder if corn nuts will make its reappearance this year:lol

great times in parkin lot 03... cant wait for the show this year



:thumbsup corn nuts at darien in 04 :thumbsup

[scotty12]

Are there any nice hotels nearby? Within an hours drive maybe? I read that the darien hotel was $210 and that seemed steep to me.

[Rippy]

yea there are a few hotels. Econo Lodge is one i can picture in my head

[somedevil22]

i wonder if corn nuts will make its reappearance this year:lol

great times in parkin lot 03... cant wait for the show this year
In 02 if I remember correctly red bull came and were giving out free cans. I wonder what will be this year.

[crushnancy]

Did anyone get the parking pass this weekend? I was going to because the last 2 years I have spent 3 hours in the parking lot and another 3 driving home. Do you think the $15.00 parking pass is worth it?

[BrahmaBull]

F*CK kiss 98.5

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97637

[Rippy]

F*CK kiss 98.5

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97637


amen

[unccrombie]

bull shitty mc-bullshit at least i have great seats :lol

[The Sean]

i wonder how much my WH seats are gonna blow