6 year warehouse members

[boredtotears]

i know that these request are looked down on by most people on the boards but i really want some good tickets to a concert this year. i got stuck out on the lawn last year in Atl, and it was a terrible experiance, the guy next to me threw up on me and there were people passing drugs and shit around. i missed about 2 and a half songs cleaning myself up in the bathroom and i really want some good pavillion seats this time. if any 6th year members could help me out with ticket requests to the Nashville and Atlanta shows that would be really great and hopefully itll be a good experiance this year. PM me or send me an email at rcboaz@mccallie.org

[Kyle#41_7985]

haha, do people actually do that? I don't think I'd be bold enough to have somebody request shows for me. Especially since you can request only so many shows from a series.

[crashintosabine]

I just enjoy how it's only "6 year members." Guess a four year member like me isn't good enough. :rolleyes:

[boredtotears]

I just enjoy how it's only "6 year members." Guess a four year member like me isn't good enough. :rolleyes:

do you get good tickets?

[crashintosabine]

Ummm...yep. WH has been kind to me.

[unccrombie]

join the WH like the rest of us, god damn i hate these threads

[crashintosabine]

join the WH like the rest of us, god damn i hate these threads

Exactly. Not only does he ask for tickets from only 6th year members, but then has the nerve to ask me, a lowly 4th year, if my tickets are ever good, as if he may just reconsider his 6th year only request. :rolleyes: :violent

[unccrombie]

Exactly. Not only does he ask for tickets from only 6th year members, but then has the nerve to ask me, a lowly 4th year, if my tickets are ever good, as if he may just reconsider his 6th year only request. :rolleyes: :violent
i know, i get asked and i'm only a 1st year. should actually be 3rd year but that's a long story :(

it just goes on too much

[crashintosabine]

it just goes on too much

:thumbsup

[mp3ray]

Darn I missed it to, just a few months away from 5 years.

[boredtotears]

sorry about the 6 year thing, i want to change it to just senior members, how do i edit the title

[crashintosabine]

sorry about the 6 year thing, i want to change it to just senior members, how do i edit the title

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[AdamCU81]

i think you missed the point of the story

[crashintosabine]

I'm sorry, I just had to come back and make sure I read that correctly the first time.


sorry about the 6 year thing, i want to change it to just senior members, how do i edit the title

:lol :lol Yep, I did. :lol :lol

[Gregb486]

lawn is fun

[proudest_monkee]

I just enjoy how it's only "6 year members." Guess a four year member like me isn't good enough. :rolleyes:

I read his post in the "Ticket" section and almost said the same thing. I thought it was awful bold to ask for such a thing. Us 4th year people get no respect. All I can say is good luck...but don't hold your breath.

[snuffles]

sorry about the 6 year thing, i want to change it to just senior members, how do i edit the title

Please tell me this thread is a joke

[DMBFan920]

this thread is a joke








nope, I was lying, he's just a moron

[Mickey Carson]

I like this guy

[DMBFan920]

you wasted your 1000th post on me, I feel privileged, honestly, I do

[themabrklyn]

i think you missed the point of the story

Haha--I KNOW they missed the point of the story.

[Mickey Carson]

you wasted your 1000th post on me, I feel privileged, honestly, I do

Not you...the thread starter :lol

Although I'm sure you're a great person and everything...

[DMBFan920]

I'm gonna go and hide in a cave now, honestly, this is a cave ( ) this is me o and this is me in a cave ( o ), nope, that's something else, nevermind

[The J2H]

i'm a fifth year member...so does that mean i'm better than you lowly 4th years, but not quite as good as the 6th years?

i must admit, this thread got progressively better



i wonder if the thread started is actually our old friend "dmbATL99" undercover. i could see him making a thread like this. after all...he has to keep Julie happy, right?

[number4one]

i'm a fifth year member...so does that mean i'm better than you lowly 4th years, but not quite as good as the 6th years?

i must admit, this thread got progressively better



i wonder if the thread started is actually our old friend "dmbATL99" undercover. i could see him making a thread like this. after all...he has to keep Julie happy, right?
she's all..."but baby... i want good tickets... i'm a puppy for your love"

and BOOM he makes a fool of himself...AGAIN!:D

[OCMarsh]

What a great thread!

I'm just a first year WH member. Could the 6th year guys request some Gorge tix for me? Also, I'm looking for advice on parking and hotels, could the 6th year guys tell me any secrets? I'm also looking for a hot and intelligent girlfriend; any 6th year girls available?

[The J2H]

she's all..."but baby... i want good tickets... i'm a puppy for your love"

and BOOM he makes a fool of himself...AGAIN!:D
i'm glad my fellow Polarisite was here to back me up on my theory

[seekup41nancies]

join the WH like the rest of us, god damn i hate these threads

I 2nd that. I am a 4th yr. now, and am still trying to climb to the top!

[Rob D]

i don't see the harm in asking someone to request for you. i'm a 6th year and i did a bunch of requests for people on this board alone.

[raven rr]

^
would you do a request for me?

i'm a 4th year and have never gotten good seats. i'm talking 40 rows back is about the closest i've ever been thru WH tix.

[boredtotears]

i don't see the harm in asking someone to request for you. i'm a 6th year and i did a bunch of requests for people on this board alone.


hey man would you please make requests for me, id really appreciate it. email me at rcboaz@mccallie.org if you can. i just need to from series three, atlanta and nashville.

[gregory311]

What's so wrong with asking for tickets from a WH member? I have friends that are in it and only go to one or two shows and they don't use all their requests. If someone is cool and would give a fellow ant a shot at good seats as long as they pay for the tickets, where's the harm?

I guess I don't understand the animosity here. The sixth year thing was a little silly, I'll give you that. But if you don't want to help someone out, that's ace. Someone else might and that's nothing but cool.

J.

[Rob D]

hey man would you please make requests for me, id really appreciate it. email me at rcboaz@mccallie.org if you can. i just need to from series three, atlanta and nashville.
should've asked before...i've used all of my requests for all 4 series. sorry.

[Rob D]

What's so wrong with asking for tickets from a WH member? I have friends that are in it and only go to one or two shows and they don't use all their requests. If someone is cool and would give a fellow ant a shot at good seats as long as they pay for the tickets, where's the harm?

I guess I don't understand the animosity here. The sixth year thing was a little silly, I'll give you that. But if you don't want to help someone out, that's ace. Someone else might and that's nothing but cool.

J.
:thumbsup agreed. my only fear is that someone i hook up w/ try to sell the tickets on eBay, hence i try to do a overnight delivery as close to the date of show as possible to curb any thoughts of scalping. if i lose my membership for some fuck who trys to sell shit on eBay i'll drive to their door and pull a "charlie murphy" on his ass.

[boredtotears]

so any senior members willing to request for me?

[crashintosabine]

i don't see the harm in asking someone to request for you. i'm a 6th year and i did a bunch of requests for people on this board alone.


Asking someone to request a show for you is one thing. Granted, the lazy shit should join the WH, but whatever. It's just that he's not asking to just go to the show, he only wants the tickets that six years seniority and cost $180 in WH fees. It's bullshit.

[boredtotears]

i am in the warehouse

[BustedJeff]

Why do the dumbest threads get the most replies from people complaining about how the thread is dumb??? Just don't post! Ignore the thread and it will go away!

[crashintosabine]

Just don't post! Ignore the thread and it will go away!

like you did? ;) :lol

[barefoot]

I support this thread. This community is supposed to be built on cool people helping each other out. I see no harm in asking. If you dont agree so be it, everyone can voice their opinion.

[Rob D]

Asking someone to request a show for you is one thing. Granted, the lazy shit should join the WH, but whatever. It's just that he's not asking to just go to the show, he only wants the tickets that six years seniority and cost $180 in WH fees. It's bullshit.
i guess that's one way to look at it. but the way i see it is that it's membership money lost if i only request the 4 shows i'm going to and let 3 other series go empty. yeah, i've paid $180 in fees, but i've gotten my money's worth (no doubt about that) so i actually enjoy spreading the experience to people who either weren't fortunate enough to join when i did or maybe can't afford to join. i guess that's all i'm saying.

[boredtotears]

i guess that's one way to look at it. but the way i see it is that it's membership money lost if i only request the 4 shows i'm going to and let 3 other series go empty. yeah, i've paid $180 in fees, but i've gotten my money's worth (no doubt about that) so i actually enjoy spreading the experience to people who either weren't fortunate enough to join when i did or maybe can't afford to join. i guess that's all i'm saying.


would you request for me?

[boredtotears]

would you request for me?


whoops, lol forgot i already asked

[fleckhead]

if anyone from the band is reading this, would you please hook me up with some front row seats, and oh yeah, back stage passes?

[RaynorC]

i know that these request are looked down on by most people on the boards but i really want some good tickets to a concert this year. i got stuck out on the lawn last year in Atl, and it was a terrible experiance, the guy next to me threw up on me and there were people passing drugs and shit around. i missed about 2 and a half songs cleaning myself up in the bathroom and i really want some good pavillion seats this time. if any 6th year members could help me out with ticket requests to the Nashville and Atlanta shows that would be really great and hopefully itll be a good experiance this year. PM me or send me an email at rcboaz@mccallie.org
I was on the lawn in ATL last year and it was just fine! Just try your luck with ticketbastard, or invent a time machine, travel back to '98, and join the WH.

[The J2H]

no one officially asked me, lol

[DMBFan920]

whoops, lol forgot i already asked
that's too funny

[boredtotears]

no one officially asked me, lol

would you request for me?

[greppson]

wait, so you made 2 threads about this?

[DMBFan920]

if you're gonna ask someone again, please private message them, it makes you look pathetic when you do it on here, I'm just looking out for you

[sprit316]

What till a week or two before the show and look on ticketmaster, they almost always free up pretty good seats like top 20 rows or try to get instants if you get them really early you will get good seats.

[barefoot]

Wait til the day of, then you get sweet seats. Jason and I grabbed sweet seats for D&F on the day of.

[EatSleepJeep]

Why I hate my life
1) Some 1st year or no year has a 6th or 5th request a show they would not normally make a request for(multiply times 1000 people doing this=2000 artificial seats in front of a fourth year)
2) As a fourth year, the artificial seniority demand sticks ME on the puke covered grass
3) The puke covered grass is where I spent my time as a 1st and 2nd year.
4) 1st year $30 dues boy is now 4th row center for his 1st show.
5) 4th year $120 dues ME is getting puked on for the 25th time.

THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT! Pay your dues, do your time, don't be a snake. I know its not against the official rules, but is it ethical? No. Spend your time on the puke covered grass, I've paid my dues on the lawn.

Boredtotears and I will be meeting in the parking lot before the show for a ticket redistribution session. He knows that his actions are unfair, and he'd like to make it up to me. Right?

[AdamCU81]

Why I hate my life
1) Some 1st year or no year has a 6th or 5th request a show they would not normally make a request for(multiply times 1000 people doing this=2000 artificial seats in front of a fourth year)
2) As a fourth year, the artificial seniority demand sticks ME on the puke covered grass
3) The puke covered grass is where I spent my time as a 1st and 2nd year.
4) 1st year $30 dues boy is now 4th row center for his 1st show.
5) 4th year $120 dues ME is getting puked on for the 25th time.

THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT! Pay your dues, do your time, don't be a snake. I know its not against the official rules, but is it ethical? No. Spend your time on the puke covered grass, I've paid my dues on the lawn.

Boredtotears and I will be meeting in the parking lot before the show for a ticket redistribution session. He knows that his actions are unfair, and he'd like to make it up to me. Right?

IT is ok to do people favors once in a while. Nobody forced you to sit in your WH seats. You too could have been crafty and figured out a way to get closer.

Do you really think you're going to get better seats two years from now than you will now??? There are still tens of thousands of WH members in front of you.....it's not like once you become a 4th,5th,6th year member you automatically get better seats. Chances are only a negligable number of WH members will drop out in the coming years. So get used to the lawn, or be a little pro-active.

edit: ....and if this is why you hate your life, you might want to seek therapy.

And yes, it is a little silly to make a request like this on a public board where everyone wants the best seats.

[Rob D]

1) Some 1st year or no year has a 6th or 5th request a show they would not normally make a request for(multiply times 1000 people doing this=2000 artificial seats in front of a fourth year)
you know, you're right in some parts (the quote being one). i didn't think about it that way. i was figuring that people who just joined or aren't members would never get decent seats w/out paying an arm and leg for them. if i was a 3 year member and hoped that i would be closer because senior members weren't going to be using the tickets, i'd be very disappointed if they hooked up a bunch of people who haven't served their time. something to think about in the future.

[Chris_Norris41]

In my 6 years in the WH...I've only gotten good ticket once! I didn't even request this year yet. I'm so disappointed with the WH, they don't answer emails either. I have yet to receieve my WH package for this year yet...

[Rob D]

In my 6 years in the WH...I've only gotten good ticket once! I didn't even request this year yet. I'm so disappointed with the WH, they don't answer emails either. I have yet to receieve my WH package for this year yet...
that can't be possible. i've never gotten bad seats except for night 2's the past 2 or 3 years.

[twostep66]

The worst warehouse seat I've ever had was at Darien Lake, and that was 400 section under the tent. My first year as a member I had 19th row floor at SPAC 7/29/02. So they've been good to me, especially 8th row at montreal last year.

[Chris_Norris41]

that can't be possible. i've never gotten bad seats except for night 2's the past 2 or 3 years.

Yes, it is possible. Plus, I have gotten rejected from the warehouse for tickets as well. Three D+T shows from last year and 1 DMB show. How the hell the DMB show happened I have no clue! I'm feed up with the WH...

[gregory311]

I still see it this way:

If you want to make a request, go ahead.

If you want to ok a request, go ahead. If you don't want to ok a request, don't.

The anger towards these people making requests is misdirected. It's the club you have a problem with and not them. WH makes it possible for all these things to happen clean and simple and getting pissed at people asking others to hook them up is pointless.

There are loopholes for everything and people who are well connected are going to do this sort of thing all the time. It's part of being the club. You pay your money and you run the risks therein. I'm not saying it's a ok for the club to allow it, but it's their rules and that's all there is to it. By paying them $30 a year for however many years you do, you are acknowledging that you understand that you are not guaranteed everything that you want and others may get more than what they asked for.

It might not be the way it's supposed to work, but reality is reality.

J.

[greppson]

let's take a look at my warehouse experiences:

joined january 99:

7.8.00 foxboro, i got 25th row center.
12.9.00 albany, side of the stage, farther back part of the bowl
12.11.00 boston, pretty much the same as 12.9.00
6.17.01 foxboro, didn't attend but i had 13th row to the right side of the floor
7.25.02 meadows, rear part of pavillion
7.26.02 meadows, lawn
12.17.02 albany, 10th row right side of floor
3.19.03 oakdale, right side again, but second or third section back
3.28.03 denied
3.29.03 denied
5.5.03 amherst, upper back part
7.5.03 alpine, lawn
7.6.03 alpine, section like 201 211 or something up there, i was pretty close to the lawn
8.30.03 meadows, lawn
9.2.03 montreal, 5th row dead center
12.13.03 providence, about 17th row right side of floor
12.16.03 boston, about 20th row center


edit: never a meet and greet, never upgraded seats.

[slfairless]

i don't see the harm in asking someone to request for you. i'm a 6th year and i did a bunch of requests for people on this board alone.I know you are just trying to help people get good tickets but how many 5th year WH members are being pushed back because a 6th year got tix for a person who is not in the WH? This is my 3rd year in the WH and I've been to about 15 shows but I've never been in the first 20 rows, and I've often resorted to ticketmaster for better seats then WH seats, but I continue to pay my dues and continue to enjoy the shows.

Look at it this way, if fifteen 5th and 6th years [and I know there are more then that] score extra tix for non-WH members for the same show am me, my seats just moved back thirty seats for non-WH members to afford the perks of membership, without paying for membership -- at this point, why am I paying my WH dues to get seats that I could get through ticketmaster?

I will be honest, I asked one time to get tix from a senior member just to be front and center for once but it's sad to think I had to resort to that to get good seats for a change. I fully support the seniority clause in the WH but it has to be all or none and people cheating the system make me want to go away from seniority seating.

[Rob D]

I know you are just trying to help people get good tickets but how many 5th year WH members are being pushed back because a 6th year got tix for a person who is not in the WH? This is my 3rd year in the WH and I've been to about 15 shows but I've never been in the first 20 rows, and I've often resorted to ticketmaster for better seats then WH seats, but I continue to pay my dues and continue to enjoy the shows.

Look at it this way, if fifteen 5th and 6th years [and I know there are more then that] score extra tix for non-WH members for the same show am me, my seats just moved back thirty seats for non-WH members to afford the perks of membership, without paying for membership -- at this point, why am I paying my WH dues to get seats that I could get through ticketmaster?

I will be honest, I asked one time to get tix from a senior member just to be front and center for once but it's sad to think I had to resort to that to get good seats for a change. I fully support the seniority clause in the WH but it has to be all or none and people cheating the system make me want to go away from seniority seating.
read my post a couple of hours ago...

[dmbwildcat]

I have been in since 12/4/98, and have had great luck!
5/8/99 3rd row
5/9/99 Front row
6/18/99 2nd row
6/19/00 6th row
6/20/00 10th row
6/22/00 13th row
6/24/00 Front row
6/26/00 3rd row
12/4&5/00 Front row
4/21/01 16th row
8/5/02 2nd row
8/8/02 5th row
6/17/03 10th row
6/23/04 4th row

Membership has its privlages....

[boredtotears]

I know you are just trying to help people get good tickets but how many 5th year WH members are being pushed back because a 6th year got tix for a person who is not in the WH? This is my 3rd year in the WH and I've been to about 15 shows but I've never been in the first 20 rows, and I've often resorted to ticketmaster for better seats then WH seats, but I continue to pay my dues and continue to enjoy the shows.

Look at it this way, if fifteen 5th and 6th years [and I know there are more then that] score extra tix for non-WH members for the same show am me, my seats just moved back thirty seats for non-WH members to afford the perks of membership, without paying for membership -- at this point, why am I paying my WH dues to get seats that I could get through ticketmaster?

I will be honest, I asked one time to get tix from a senior member just to be front and center for once but it's sad to think I had to resort to that to get good seats for a change. I fully support the seniority clause in the WH but it has to be all or none and people cheating the system make me want to go away from seniority seating.

i am in the warehouse, i joined a few weeks ago, ive just want a senior member to help me get some close seats

[gregory311]

I know you are just trying to help people get good tickets but how many 5th year WH members are being pushed back because a 6th year got tix for a person who is not in the WH?

Yes, but you can make the same case for members who request their max amount with no intention of going to the show. And what's different about someone requesting the max for themselves?

Membership does have it's privledges and members are allowed to do whatever they want if the system ok's it. Dem's the rules and no one is breaking them according that system.

J.

[Rob D]

I have been in since 12/4/98, and have had great luck!
5/8/99 3rd row
5/9/99 Front row
6/18/99 2nd row
6/19/00 6th row
6/20/00 10th row
6/22/00 13th row
6/24/00 Front row
6/26/00 3rd row
12/4&5/00 Front row
4/21/01 16th row
8/5/02 2nd row
8/8/02 5th row
6/17/03 10th row
6/23/04 4th row

Membership has its privlages....
don't have time to look up all those dates. what's your stomping grounds? i'm sure that i've bumped into you more than once.

[slfairless]

Yes, but you can make the same case for members who request their max amount with no intention of going to the show. And what's different about someone requesting the max for themselves?

Membership does have it's privledges and members are allowed to do whatever they want if the system ok's it. Dem's the rules and no one is breaking them according that system.

J.
My frustration is in no way misdirected -- it is towards any WH member abusing the loopholes and requesting ANY tickets they are not planning on using. I don't care if it's a couple friends selecting two sets to use the best set and sell the other or if it's a 6th year taking tickets out of the hands of members to put them into the hands of non-members. I think the wH is working hard to get tickets out of the hands of scalpers however, there is a huge problem a lot closer to home and simply accepting it as "It might not be the way it's supposed to work, but reality is reality" will not get us anywhere.

If we are at the point where we throw our hands up that there is no winning, then I say take seniority seating away all together so we all have an equal chance... which sucks to think that I've paid this long, finally to start getting a little seniority and not that would all be for nothing but fair is fair.

[slfairless]

read my post a couple of hours ago...
I saw that and I respect that you would consider changing things in the future but that doesn't change the fact that you are pulling $2990 worth of front row tickets out for this summer tour.

[gregory311]

I saw that and I respect that you would consider changing things in the future but that doesn't change the fact that you are pulling $2990 worth of front row tickets out for this summer tour.

But this is exactly what I'm talking about. He has every right to do this. What difference does it make to WH members what he's doing with the tix? Whether or not he actually uses the tickets or sells them is irrelevant because the only thing that affects other WH members is the fact that you can't get those tickets as they aren't available to you.

That's what I'm saying here: the WH allows people to get mass amounts of tickets and it's taking away the chances of other WH members from getting tickets. That's your issue, not whether or not a WH member buys a ticket for himself of someone else.

At least that's what it sounds like.

J.

[dmbwildcat]

don't have time to look up all those dates. what's your stomping grounds? i'm sure that i've bumped into you more than once.

Kentucky

[slfairless]

But this is exactly what I'm talking about. He has every right to do this. What difference does it make to WH members what he's doing with the tix? Whether or not he actually uses the tickets or sells them is irrelevant because the only thing that affects other WH members is the fact that you can't get those tickets as they aren't available to you.

That's what I'm saying here: the WH allows people to get mass amounts of tickets and it's taking away the chances of other WH members from getting tickets. That's your issue, not whether or not a WH member buys a ticket for himself of someone else.

At least that's what it sounds like.

J.It makes a huge difference what he is doing with the tickets, I can not believe you are even asking that. I respect that he is a 6th year member and he deserves to be front row for every show that he wants to attend. Now if he was using his $2990 worth of tickets to go to shows rather then giving them away, I would have no complaint but by giving them to NON-members, he is taking away from other people paying membership dues. For every ticket Rob gets for a NON-member, that is one more member who gets declines.

The WH allows people to get mass amounts of tickets to go to mass amounts of shows, not to give them to non-members. The issue is not that they allow people to get a lot of tickets, the issue is Rob would not be taking so many tickets if he wasn't giving some away and in turn, more members would be able to go to the show.

EDIT: Are you a WH member Jay? I think your stance might be different if you were paying your dues and getting declined/shitty seats through the WH. You don't happen to be one of the people Rob is hookin up do you?

[gregory311]

It makes a huge difference what he is doing with the tickets, I can not believe you are even asking that.

This is what I'm saying: you cannot know what every WH member does with his/her tickets. The fact that you know what one person is doing doesn't make it right or wrong as the only thing that affects you is that the WH let's people do this and lets other people get the tickets. They make it available to older members and that's where the problem lies. It doesn't mean anything different to you on paper.

Ethically you have a point that people shouldn't do this, but the fact is that people do it because they can. The WH has a system that all but encourages it. But that's the way it is and I don't like it, but I also don't complain about it. Until the WH says, "Only the pruchaser of the WH tickets obtained may use them." this is going to happen thousands of times each tour.

I am not a member of the WH because I've never had a problem with any ticket I've ever received. Personally, I think it sucks that people are even allowed to get the amount of good tickets that they are. People pay $180 more than someone else over six years and they are the ones who get the choicest seats? $180??

I think it's a great idea to give fans the chance to get cool seats but in reality it's way out of hand and prevents the majority of fans from getting good seats.

J.

[slfairless]

I know there are tons of people doing it but simply because lots of people get away stealing, that doesn't reduce that fact that you get pissed off when someone steals from you does it? If someone openly admits to cheating the ticketing system, I have every right [as a paying WH member] to complain about the abuse... otherwise the WH can shove my $30 up their ass and I will cancel my membership today. I look at it like this, it's a problem and it needs to be addressed by the WH or I will just be taking my chances with ticketmaster.

[Rob D]

Per Warehouse: The resale or attempted resale of a ticket at a price higher than that appearing thereon is prohibited and if discovered may result in the ticket being voided without refund. The ticket may not be used for advertising, promotion (including contests and sweepstakes) or other trade purposes without the express written consent of Dave Matthews Band, Inc. ("DMB").

*please note that i'd never ask for a penny more than what my credit card incurred and that i'm always open to helping people out...even 4th year members ;)

i just figure that i have a unique opportunity to help people and i want to use it.

[gregory311]

I know there are tons of people doing it but simply because lots of people get away stealing, that doesn't reduce that fact that you get pissed off when someone steals from you does it? If someone openly admits to cheating the ticketing system, I have every right [as a paying WH member] to complain about the abuse... otherwise the WH can shove my $30 up their ass and I will cancel my membership today. I look at it like this, it's a problem and it needs to be addressed by the WH or I will just be taking my chances with ticketmaster.

No one is stealing anything here. Let's say WH offers up 6 pairs of tickets to any show. A person with higher standing in the club puts in his request and gets them. That's the end of it. WH doesn't care about where the tickets are going as long as they aren't scalped.

They allow this to happen and therefore members who do this are not stealing.

If I were a member of the WH I certainly would be pissed that they allow something like this to happen, but I can't understand why people get pissed at others who do nothing more than what WH allows them to do.

Your last sentence is the issue I was trying to get at before. Getting pissed at the people who are not breaking any rules set by WH isn't going to do anything. Getting the WH to regulate the distribution of the tickets available is the only way people are going to avoid this issue.

I guess the other problem with it that I have is this: I live with my fiance. Say we've been together for six years. I have a brother and a sister whom I've paid to get memberships each year knowing that I will be the only one accessing or using the membership. Now I can request four times what I normally would be able to do. I wonder how often that happens; I'll be it's more frequent than we all think and I know it happens because I've seen people here mention they have more than one account. So now one member is getting a crack at 96 tickets that will probably be choice seats.

Long-winded, but all my posts contiue to solidify my thoughts that the WH tickets should either be cut waaaaaay down or abolished outright.

J.

[slfairless]

Good grief... stealing was simply the analogy used, I wasn't trying to what Rob is doing is stealing. Point was: It's real easy to take your stance when you are not a member and have nothing to loose but instead, can only gain at the chance to get WH tickets from Rob without having to pay your money.

If you were paying your money and getting shitty tickets year after year I think your stance might be a little different -- as of now, this discussion is tired and we will not agree.

[gregory311]

Good grief... stealing was simply the analogy used, I wasn't trying to what Rob is doing is stealing. Point was: It's real easy to take your stance when you are not a member and have nothing to loose but instead, can only gain at the chance to get WH tickets from Rob without having to pay your money.

If you were paying your money and getting shitty tickets year after year I think your stance might be a little different -- as of now, this discussion is tired and we will not agree.

Shannon, it's not that we don't agree. I just think you getting mad at someone for doing something that the organization is letting him do is not kosher.

Get pissed at WH. They are your real problem, not guys like Rob.

J.

[slfairless]

:lol

Can we not just let this die? I have no problem with Rob... I've seen a lot of him on these boards and I know he is a stand up guy, it's not even about that. It's about a system and people taking advantage of that system without seeing the impact on the rest of the world that I have a problem with. Just because something is 'not illegal' doesn't make it any less wrong.

I'm not mad at anyone bro -- I am frustrated with the system and with getting shitty tickets year after year. It's all good :D

Peace-

[gregory311]

I'm not mad at anyone bro -- I am frustrated with the system and with getting shitty tickets year after year. It's all good :D

Peace-

You're still holding a grudge because I thought you were a chick, right? :)

No problems, I was only using R. as an example, he is a stand up guy, no doubt.

J.

[Rob D]

you guys are sweet. i'm stand up.

[crashintosabine]

WH doesn't care about where the tickets are going as long as they aren't scalped.



See, it's not the WH who cares, it's the people who have 3 or 4 years seniority that do. WH doesn't give a fuck, because the tickets sell and they get all those glorious processing fees.

If that 6-year member chooses not to attend a show, it puts me one seat closer. By that person giving his request away to someone who just wanders in asking for it they're screwing the people with less seniority than them.

[gregory311]

See, it's not the WH who cares, it's the people who have 3 or 4 years seniority that do. WH doesn't give a fuck, because the tickets sell and they get all those glorious processing fees.

If that 6-year member chooses not to attend a show, it puts me one seat closer. By that person giving his request away to someone who just wanders in asking for it they're screwing the people with less seniority than them.

And whose fault is that?

It's the organization that allows it to happen not the person who does what is allowed by said organizaton.

Bottom line: if this type of thing weren't allowed, it wouldn't happen and you wouldn't be unhappy with the service.

J.

[The J2H]

...and this thread lives on...

[The J2H]

i'm just curious...out of all the people "arguing" in this thread...how many of you actually plan on going to Atlanta?

[The J2H]

and I do realize that this practice applies to all shows, so I can understand why everyone here would get upset. And I totally forgot my whole point to this post...

[gregory311]

and I do realize that this practice applies to all shows, so I can understand why everyone here would get upset. And I totally forgot my whole point to this post...

I totally support this post. This is the kind of thing I can get behind.

J.

[Rob D]

well, it's official. i won't be doing this for future tours. too much bullshit it starts. if i were the jury and not hte defendant, i'd rule in favor of the 3rd and 4th years. winter tour is all yours.

[crashintosabine]

And whose fault is that?

It's the organization that allows it to happen not the person who does what is allowed by said organizaton.


J.

So...because the "organization" allows it, it's okay to screw over fellow fans to get better seats? I see... :rolleyes:

[boredtotears]

yall, i really didnt want to cause this much comotion over this, sorry

[scotty12]

I think that it would only take one will call to stop a person from doing this, as no one wants to lose money..

Also, allowing 6 requests per series, therefore 24 requests this tour, only increases the chance that this kind of stuff is going on, so I think that shows that the WH really isnt concerned with the trading issue.

[The J2H]

the warehouse is a business...businesses exist to make money...it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. the warehouse, although it's helping those who can afford to request a ton of shows, it's also helping to all those who can't give their requests away.

that probably made no sense, but at least g311 will support me on it, right?

[gregory311]

So...because the "organization" allows it, it's okay to screw over fellow fans to get better seats? I see... :rolleyes:

Yup, it's their rules and their policies. You agreed to it when you signed on the line.

Just like here. People may say things that you think are atrocious but the "organization" allows it. You can either hang with it or not.

Like I said, I don't think anyone is more of a fan than me because they joined the WH. I think setting aside tickets for people who shell out $30 a year is a bad idea because people are going to bitch and moan unless they get what they think they deserve. That's why I think that side of the WH is bad.

J.

[The J2H]

I think that there are obviously positives and negatives to joining the warehouse. in my personal opinion, the positives outweigh the negatives, and that's why i joined, and that's why i continue to pay my $30 (now $35) per year.

the seniority system obviously has it's positives as well. people who have been there from the beginning get the better tickets generally, however, that in turn discourages new people to join because they're afraid of getting poor seats. i believe the WH has taken steps to help stop these worries, but there is probably more that could be done. i don't necessarily think that a 6-year member should always get the good seats, once in a while you should allow the closer seats to go to the new people. i would guess that the random upgrades are a way to keep people interesting in the WH, people obviously a person who is already close probably won't get the upgrade. i could probably write an entire paper on the practices of the WH, both good and bad, and it would most likely be 10 pages long, but i don't really feel like doing that now.

anyways, i'm gonna cut myself off now, before i get carried away. maybe if this thread sparks my interest, i'll add some more thoughts. anyways, that's all for now.

[The J2H]

Like I said, I don't think anyone is more of a fan than me because they joined the WH.
i support this post

just because you joined the WH when it started, or at all for that matter, doesn't make you a "BIGGER" fan. this raises the question...how do you guage how "big" a fan is? can you really do it? i think that it is impossible.

I think setting aside tickets for people who shell out $30 a year is a bad idea because people are going to bitch and moan unless they get what they think they deserve. That's why I think that side of the WH is bad.

J.
i don't necessarily think that setting aside tickets is bad. this is america where everyone thinks they have a right to everything. people are always gonna bitch if they think they have been wronged, it's just the american way. people bitch when they don't think they got the tickets they deserved. people bitch when they think gas prices are to high. people bitch when they think they're paying too much for popcorn at a movie theatre. the way i see it, if you think you're not getting what you pay for, STOP PAYING FOR IT! you think you don't get the tickets you deserved, don't renew with the WH! if you think gas prices are too high, ride you bike!! if you think popcorn costs to much, don't buy the food at the theatre!!!

...and now i step down from my soapbox...

[slfairless]

You're still holding a grudge because I thought you were a chick, right? :)

No problems, I was only using R. as an example, he is a stand up guy, no doubt.

J.
:lol

I am still pissed at you putting my masculinity in question by thinking I was a chick! ;)

[slfairless]

well, it's official. i won't be doing this for future tours. too much bullshit it starts. if i were the jury and not hte defendant, i'd rule in favor of the 3rd and 4th years. winter tour is all yours.In all honesty Rob, I applaud your efforts in trying to share something that is considered to be priceless to most of us. Speaking for myself, after years of getting shitty tickets by the WH, I was willing to pay up to $1000 per front row tickets to see Dave and Tim [luckily I stumbled into decent tickets and didn't have to follow through] and you have the ability to make that a reality for people without them having to lower their morals and buy from scalpers/brokers.

Nobody here can tell you what you are doing is wrong because it's within the WH guidelines, however the grey area starts to become sketchy when WH-members requests get declined for a NON-WH member to get a front row seat. Maybe a good idea would be to limit the requests only to WH members? You could pass out 'X' to 4th year, 'X' to 3rd year, 'X' to 2nd, and 1 to 1rst year :D I don't know... you can obviously handle it however you want but I know you have the best intentions and to think that you would stop sharing tickets and that would just put that many more front row tickets into the hands of people selling those front row tickets above face... maybe this would be a good way to help other WH-members finally get a decent chance at great tickets in an otherwise crazy system. Just my 0.2 cents :D

[Rob D]

In all honesty Rob, I applaud your efforts in trying to share something that is considered to be priceless to most of us. Speaking for myself, after years of getting shitty tickets by the WH, I was willing to pay up to $1000 per front row tickets to see Dave and Tim [luckily I stumbled into decent tickets and didn't have to follow through] and you have the ability to make that a reality for people without them having to lower their morals and buy from scalpers/brokers.

Nobody here can tell you what you are doing is wrong because it's within the WH guidelines, however the grey area starts to become sketchy when WH-members requests get declined for a NON-WH member to get a front row seat. Maybe a good idea would be to limit the requests only to WH members? You could pass out 'X' to 4th year, 'X' to 3rd year, 'X' to 2nd, and 1 to 1rst year :D I don't know... you can obviously handle it however you want but I know you have the best intentions and to think that you would stop sharing tickets and that would just put that many more front row tickets into the hands of people selling those front row tickets above face... maybe this would be a good way to help other WH-members finally get a decent chance at great tickets in an otherwise crazy system. Just my 0.2 cents :D
if there was some way i could do that, i would. i obviously can't check someone's status as a warehouse member because of a. confidentiality and b. location. yeah, someone could just say "i'm a 4th year" and i'd have no way to prove or disprove them. i think it's in the best interests of everyone just to quit doing it. i've already made my promises for this year and i'm sticking to them, but future tours will just be for me and family.

[KJ.]

I've been a member since 99 but I'd definitely have a member from 98 make a request for me. Does it make a difference? Hell yes it does!

[MsMtnBkr]

I gotta say - I am a 4th year member and I guess I have been extremely lucky now that I am reading this. I have had 3rd & 4th row seats for as long as I can remember AND I was invited to the Carson Daly show AND the Letterman show as well. I would be happy to share my WH privies to members who have been with AM for at least 4 years. That would show me loyalty & dedication at least, since there is no way in verifying there status at the warehouse. Not that being a member here for a week means that you are not............ And I would only send out tickets a day or two before the show, just to make sure they are not be resold. Maybe that would be helpful to those who would want to share as well, but are stuck in thoughts........ anywhoooooooo............ my 3 cents!!

[DiscreetMike]

crashintosabine please get over yourself. this is a forum, not high school. Senority of any kind doesn't mean anything online...

[Jordan#41]

I guess i know how this guy feels. Im a second year member and am sick of getting shitty seats. I'd love to get floor seats but I dont know If dmb will be around in another 6 or 7 years..

[greppson]

I guess i know how this guy feels. Im a second year member and am sick of getting shitty seats. I'd love to get floor seats but I dont know If dmb will be around in another 6 or 7 years..
try being a 5th year member and only having been in the first 10 rows once... mainly because people do exactly what happened in this thread: 6th year members buy tickets to shows they aren't going to.

[Hoppytoad]

try being a 5th year member and only having been in the first 10 rows once... mainly because people do exactly what happened in this thread: 6th year members buy tickets to shows they aren't going to.

Some of us don't.

[greppson]

Some of us don't.
well i didn't mean ALL of y'all.;)

[barefoot]

I support this thread. This community is supposed to be built on cool people helping each other out. I see no harm in asking. If you dont agree so be it, everyone can voice their opinion.
Can I quote myself because it has been 7 months. :lol

[barefoot]

wait I dont think I agree anymore...

[NavyBoy41]

i have been a member since 2001 and have gotten lawn seats, upper pavilion seats, and declined... never front row or upgraded or won any contests...

do i care? no... i'm there to see a band i love. the warehouse gives me an opportunity to guarantee my attendance before the general public gets to the tickets. if i get declined? oh well, i try my luck at ticketmaster and there's always the ants.org ticket exchange :)

I will continue to renew my membership because as more and more people get pissed off and neglect renewing, I move up in seniority! That's just my take on things....

:monkey

[dcwckd]

Funny thing is, for everry warehouse member in Toronto, Canada, there are 8 lower bowls seats. LOL! I have never head of some1 in toronto thats a WH member getting any higher than 200 levels.

ROCK ON CANADA!

LOL! Now, this thread is enlightining, I have never imagined WH actually putting people on the lawns.