Everyone who receives assigned seating at the Gorge...

[ryanfitz]

I'm getting started early on spreading the word that everyone with assigned seating at the Gorge should fold up their chairs and stack them when the boys come out. My buddy and I got a good size crowd of people around us to do it last year, and it makes the pavillion seating experience a lot more enjoyable because you aren't so crowded. Everyone has plenty of room to dance and move around. It was awesome, and I think it would be even cooler if everyone did it. Who's backing me?

[mikemack8]

that's cool, but I wanna sit in a chair right in the middle of everyone

[ryanfitz]

that's cool, but I wanna sit in a chair right in the middle of everyone

No problem, just hold your chair under your arm til your ready to sit down.

Easy.

[greppson]

no thanks,
a. i'd rather not have a mosh pit
b. i paid for my seat and my spot, i don't want some dumb fuck getting in front of me and pushing me back.
c.yeah, no. safety concerns. i hate people pushing in front of me at non seated GA shows, i hate people stubbing up like a group of 4 people for 2 seats too.

[on41greyst]

great thread. Im with you for sure ! I hate it cuz after awhile the chairs behind you slide up into the back of my knees after awhile. lets make one big pile and light them on fire in the middle of section B!

[ryanfitz]

great thread. Im with you for sure ! I hate it cuz after awhile the chairs behind you slide up into the back of my knees after awhile. lets make one big pile and light them on fire in the middle of section B!

A little extreme, but you're followin me. Right on, right on.

Keep spreading the word. It won't create a mosh pit...trust me.

[recentlytrippin]

I'm getting started early on spreading the word that everyone with assigned seating at the Gorge should fold up their chairs and stack them when the boys come out. My buddy and I got a good size crowd of people around us to do it last year, and it makes the pavillion seating experience a lot more enjoyable because you aren't so crowded. Everyone has plenty of room to dance and move around. It was awesome, and I think it would be even cooler if everyone did it. Who's backing me?


Don't take this the wrong way, but your comments made me want to hit you with a brick. See ya at the Gorge!

[kas141]

No offense, but if I pay for a seat, I want a seat. Not a clusterf*ck in front of the stage.

If you don't want seats, then go to the lawn.

[on41greyst]

A little extreme, but you're followin me. Right on, right on.

Keep spreading the word. It won't create a mosh pit...trust me. Mosh pit? thats really funny.Ithink it will be fine, nobody likes to be crowded and thats what the chair do. Im suprised that this thread is getting negitive feedback. I guess some people like to snuggle with chairs. believe it or not I have ran into alot of idiots at the gorge. It can be a very conservative crowd filled with ants.boring , anf dull as well ! its too bad we cant get rid of them along with the chairs

[mihighdavehead]

In years past they have tied the rows together, so the only way to get this done is to cut them loose AND get a whole section of peeps to follow. It works if you don't want to sit for 3 hours. I have seen shows both ways, I like to rest sometimes I just feel sorry for the people that get the pile of chairs stacked in their seat spot. I agree with others here though, because if everyone does this, myself and others might bum rush the stage. The Gorge folding chairs have always sucked, but its the only way to keep order.

[Crumbo]

no thanks,
a. i'd rather not have a mosh pit
b. i paid for my seat and my spot, i don't want some dumb fuck getting in front of me and pushing me back.
c.yeah, no. safety concerns. i hate people pushing in front of me at non seated GA shows, i hate people stubbing up like a group of 4 people for 2 seats too.

:thumbsup

[recentlytrippin]

:thumbsup

I can just envision a horrible mass rushing towards the front of the stage, and me being very unhappy to fly from ocean to ocean to be in the middle of a cluster fuck.

[Crumbo]

I can just envision a horrible mass rushing towards the front of the stage, and me being very unhappy to fly from ocean to ocean to be in the middle of a cluster fuck.

my thoughts exactly......if I wanted to be in a cluster fuck with mass people I would sit in the lawn and I'm too old for that.

[dman0808]

Don't take this the wrong way, but your comments made me want to hit you with a brick. See ya at the Gorge!

:lol :thumbsup

[dmb2much40]

if this happened, people would rush the stage. in older shows (95ish, i can't remember the dates) people did this and rushed the stage. all it did was piss dave off and he yelled at the crowd to stop cause people in the front were getting smashed. that's why they have a lawn - so you don't have to sit in a seat if you don't want to.

[ryanfitz]

Here's the arguement that I posted on nancies.org:

If anyone saw the clip from Two Step on Driven (not the clip from Van Ryper's but the indoor one on the show) and saw the energy from the crowd and the band, you may know what I mean. If you haven't seen it, look for a copy of Driven somewhere and check it out. Could you imagine being in a crowd like that at a DMB show? It can't happen anymore because everyone is restrained by their seats.

Secondly, Stefan said in his radio interview, in so many words, that he's bored of today's DMB crowds and would like to see the crowd back like the old days, where if he wanted to, he could stage dive. I'm not expecting band members to hurl themselves off the stage, but imagine the heat, energy, and intensity coming off of a crowd of DMB fanatics rocking to Two Step, Halloween, etc. Concerts should be crowded, full of energy, and have a hard rocking crowd.

Either way, I hope some people do it along with me so that we can get some dancing room. Don't make 10 foot high stacks...I'm talking multiple 4 footers. That won't hurt anyone. Also, even if people sneak their buddies down, who really cares? I used to try to sneak close at every show and the first show that fans cared was in Salt Lake in 2001. Now the "laid back" fans at the Gorge are bitching about it.

Listen to the music, dance, and enjoy your surroundings. It really doesn't get much better than DMB at the Gorge!

[Mark]

Listen to the music, dance, and enjoy your surroundings. It really doesn't get much better than DMB at the Gorge!

so you can't listen to the music, dance and enjoy your surroundings with a seat behind you?

[greppson]

1. i don't remember saying he wanted to stage dive...
2. i paid for my ticket, my seat, my space, not for your sweaty stinky ass to be on top of me.
3. yes i do mind if you are your 8 buddies try to muscle your way down in front of me. then you stand and block my view or act like complete idiots and ruin the show for me.
4. the gorge may be chill and laid back, but if you do that near me i'm not going to put up with it. it's my space goddamnit, not you and your 8 friends.


hey man, do whatever you want, but i don't want your sweaty ass near me, i came to enjoy the show, not smell your BO.

edit: i'm a pretty laid back guy and can put up with just about anything but people fucking up my show.

[elmachobaracho]

If anyone saw the clip from Two Step on Driven (not the clip from Van Ryper's but the indoor one on the show) and saw the energy from the crowd and the band, you may know what I mean. If you haven't seen it, look for a copy of Driven somewhere and check it out. Could you imagine being in a crowd like that at a DMB show? It can't happen anymore because everyone is restrained by their seats.

^this stopped when DMB started playing in stadiums/ampitheaters. Small places where DMB used to play had dance floors for stuff like that. Stadiums/Ampitheaters have chairs. DMB plays at bigger venues now, so that kind of thing will never happen as long as thats happening. Maybe way down the line, when DMB has lost the college/high school/radio crowd that likes DMB because they are the cool band to like, DMB will start playing smaller venues again. But until then, if you want a chair get reserved seating, if you dont want a chair, go to the lawn.

[Mark]

why don't you and your drunk ass friends just sit on the lawn?

[ryanfitz]

so you can't listen to the music, dance and enjoy your surroundings with a seat behind you?

Dancing is cramped with seats around you and people bitching and calling security about the guy next to them who snuck his buddy down. Eliminating chairs would solve all of this.

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed every DMB show that I've seen at the Gorge, or anywhere for that matter. From seating (with and without chairs), to the lawn, I can promise you that everyone who really cares about being as close to the stage as possible will absolutely love the open area. When we packed up our chairs last year, no one was crushing anyone or invading anyone's space. It just made somewhat of a dance floor and the vibe was that much cooler.

I know that I'm not starting a revolution here. As long as I plant the seed, I'm sure that some people will find benefits from this thread when they travel to Washington this fall.

[elmachobaracho]

i'm a pretty laid back guy and can put up with just about anything but people fucking up my show.

Amen

[seekup40]

yeah, i'm sure tapers will just love this... :twak

[dmb2much40]

people bitching and calling security about the guy next to them who snuck his buddy down. Eliminating chairs would solve all of this.

I can promise you that everyone who really cares about being as close to the stage as possible will absolutely love the open area.

1. sneaking your friends down to the pavillion is bullshit. they are invading the space i paid for.

2. everyone that care about being close to the stage IS EVERYONE. who doens't want to sit front row? all it would cause is a huge rush to the stage and people being trampled.

[kasquith]

Don't take this the wrong way, but your comments made me want to hit you with a brick. See ya at the Gorge!

Me too.

I get enough, "dude, move over so I can fit my 11 friends from the lawn in this row" as it is.

[Rob D]

Mosh pit? thats really funny.Ithink it will be fine, nobody likes to be crowded and thats what the chair do. Im suprised that this thread is getting negitive feedback. I guess some people like to snuggle with chairs. believe it or not I have ran into alot of idiots at the gorge. It can be a very conservative crowd filled with ants.boring , anf dull as well ! its too bad we cant get rid of them along with the chairs
you're right man, i don't like to be crowded, and the chairs are what keep me seperate from you. anyone busts up my seat, i'm busting it over their respective heads.

[ryanfitz]

I guess it's true that DMB fans are starting to become lamer and more selfish as years pass. Go to an OAR or Rusted Root concert and compare the crowd energy to that of a DMB concert. Don't get me wrong, DMB is my favorite band, and most definitely my favorite band to see live, but the energy from the crowd is seriously lacking...even at 9/8/02, which was the most crowd energy I've ever seen at a DMB concert.

I'm sorry that I'm starting to dish personal blows, and I'm not even going to to defend those that people have dished towards me. I guess we'll just see what happens.

P.S. The stage dive comment from Stefan was in the X-Games interview. Sorry that I was mistaken.

[Mark]

we are being selfish because we don't want your drunk friends taking the spot that *WE* paid for?

[ryanfitz]

you're right man, i don't like to be crowded, and the chairs are what keep me seperate from you. anyone busts up my seat, i'm busting it over their respective heads.

Right on, tough guy

[ryanfitz]

we are being selfish because we don't want your drunk friends taking the spot that *WE* paid for?

Okay, fuck it with the not defending myself bit. Where does all this drunk friends shit come from. I'm not implying for people to sneak their buddies down. That's disrespectful anyway. Plus, you wouldn't even fucking know if there were more space to begin with. The seats at the Gorge are so tightly packed in that it's uncomfortable anyway.

[greppson]

you just said you sneak down. stay in your seat. do whatever you want bro, i am there to have a good time and if some idiot gets up in my face, i'm not going to put up with it.

if you think the energy is lame, then stay home. i'm sure there is someone who would love your seat and would actually use it.

[twosteppn36]

I guess it's true that DMB fans are starting to become lamer and more selfish as years pass. Go to an OAR or Rusted Root concert and compare the crowd energy to that of a DMB concert. Don't get me wrong, DMB is my favorite band, and most definitely my favorite band to see live, but the energy from the crowd is seriously lacking...even at 9/8/02, which was the most crowd energy I've ever seen at a DMB concert.




that is one of the most ignorant things ive ever read...im not goin to the gorge this year but i think your idea is fuckin stupid...if you want people all up against you and pushing against you while you're jammin out to the songs...go stand in the lawn...theres a reason why reserved seating is more than lawn...the gorge would throw away chairs and charge general admission otherwise

[Rob D]

Okay, fuck it with the not defending myself bit. Where does all this drunk friends shit come from. I'm not implying for people to sneak their buddies down. That's disrespectful anyway. Plus, you wouldn't even fucking know if there were more space to begin with. The seats at the Gorge are so tightly packed in that it's uncomfortable anyway.
you're doing well here bro.

[Duckyguy]

no thanks,
a. i'd rather not have a mosh pit
b. i paid for my seat and my spot, i don't want some dumb fuck getting in front of me and pushing me back.
c.yeah, no. safety concerns. i hate people pushing in front of me at non seated GA shows, i hate people stubbing up like a group of 4 people for 2 seats too.
:thumbsup
I agree.

in '02 at the Gorge some girl just folded my chair up without even asking me...I look at her, grabbed my chair back, and opened it and put it back where it belongs.

[Rob D]

I guess it's true that DMB fans are starting to become lamer and more selfish as years pass. Go to an OAR or Rusted Root concert and compare the crowd energy to that of a DMB concert.
personally, i wouldn't fly from raleigh to george, washington to ever see rusted root or OAR or pretty much anyone other than dmb. with all the money i put into the trip, i want to enjoy myself. maybe it's cause i'm old (comparitively) but general admission is not enjoyable to me...i'd rather have some chairs. if OAR came to raleigh and it was GA, then fine, but I'm paying for myself to go from one corner of the US to the other, don't fuck w/ that.

[Duckyguy]

I'm getting started early on spreading the word that everyone with assigned seating at the Gorge should fold up their chairs and stack them when the boys come out. My buddy and I got a good size crowd of people around us to do it last year, and it makes the pavillion seating experience a lot more enjoyable because you aren't so crowded. Everyone has plenty of room to dance and move around. It was awesome, and I think it would be even cooler if everyone did it. Who's backing me?

Plenty of room to dance around? No what you have is a few hundred people trying to get closer to the stage. I personally don't want the people behind me to breathing down my neck. A chair behind me gives me some freedom not to have people crowding.

[willnole]

Respect to all the people who disagree but it's a complete clusterfuck WITH the chairs.

They're packed in twice as closely as they should be, in order for you to have ANY breathing room whatsoever, get the chairs out of your way ASAP. Trust me when I say this, the guy who started this thread is only looking out for you. Ther'll be no mosh pit,but you'll be a hell of a lot more comfortable.

EDIT: ok maybe not all the chairs. but get rid of as many as you can.

[Rob D]

Respect to all the people who disagree but it's a complete clusterfuck WITH the chairs.

They're packed in twice as closely as they should be, in order for you to have ANY breathing room whatsoever, get the chairs out of your way ASAP. Trust me when I say this, the guy who started this thread is only looking out for you. Ther'll be no mosh pit,but you'll be a hell of a lot more comfortable.

EDIT: ok maybe not all the chairs. but get rid of as many as you can.
i was fine last year both nights w/ chairs. and my seats are usually good enough where everyone would be pushing on me to get closer. i want to dance and move around, not be shoulder to shoulder with people who should be back in the 15th row.

[willnole]

I guess we can only talk from our own experience, but all I know is that when people realized you could stack them, they did. It wasn't like "clear out all the chairs. everybody has to stand now" people just realized it was more compfortable if they got rid of some of the chairs. No one was pushing on me (And I had pretty decent seats myself) and I, personally was more comfortable after we did it. But hey, to each his own.

[ryanfitz]

I guess we can only talk from our own experience, but all I know is that when people realized you could stack them, they did. It wasn't like "clear out all the chairs. everybody has to stand now" people just realized it was more compfortable if they got rid of some of the chairs. No one was pushing on me (And I had pretty decent seats myself) and I, personally was more comfortable after we did it. But hey, to each his own.

Exactly. It's worth a shot for people to try.

[firedancn_nanci]

I was at the Gorge last year Row 21 Middle section and everyone from my row forward piled their chairs, like he said there is soooooo much more room to dance and such. I dig the idea I think it worked great. Good Idea!

[ryanfitz]

I was at the Gorge last year Row 21 Middle section and everyone from my row forward piled their chairs, like he said there is soooooo much more room to dance and such. I dig the idea I think it worked great. Good Idea!

That's exactly where I was. You must know EXACTLY what I was talking about.

[Rob D]

if you guys promise to stay away from the stage then pile to your little hearts desire.

[willnole]

if you guys promise to stay away from the stage then pile to your little hearts desire.
Listen First row boy. Goddam you for getting such great seats in the first place. :lol

[Rob D]

Listen First row boy. Goddam you for getting such great seats in the first place. :lol
i guess you're right. damn me straight to hell. :evil

[greppson]

as long as you stay back in the 21 st row where you belong, do whatever the hell you want.

[willnole]

as long as you stay back in the 21 st row where you belong, do whatever the hell you want.
Listen bitch I'm no second class citizen. Stop trying to oppress all of us who signed up for the Warehouse after 2000. :D

[greppson]

Listen bitch I'm no second class citizen. Stop trying to oppress all of us who signed up for the Warehouse after 2000. :D
:lol

i just don't want to have 100 people pushing me, getting in front of me, etc. i paid for my seat and now i am getting pushed back. not cool.

[willnole]

:lol

i just don't want to have 100 people pushing me, getting in front of me, etc. i paid for my seat and now i am getting pushed back. not cool.
Just point those people out to me and I'll wrap my neatly folded up chair around their cranium.

[Rob D]

Just point those people out to me and I'll wrap my neatly folded up chair around their cranium.
i already called the job of hitting people over the head w/ chairs. go back a page, damn it.

[willnole]

What can I say I'm a ripoff artist ;)

[asmjm39]

I am a big dude, and I like my space. That being said, I paid for a seat, anarchy belongs on the grass. I like how you think its all calm and organized. I've been at the Gorge one time when some dumb idiot got this idea, and uhh yeah I got pushed back. I hate this idea

[carkiwi]

Is it that hard to dance and stuff with the chairs there? And do lots of people sit on their asses then complain about you standing in front of them? This happened at Key Arena and totally ruined my D+F experience. I hope it's definitley not like that at the Gorge.

[Rob D]

Is it that hard to dance and stuff with the chairs there? And do lots of people sit on their asses then complain about you standing in front of them? This happened at Key Arena and totally ruined my D+F experience. I hope it's definitley not like that at the Gorge.
it's not hard to dance w/ chairs there unless your a noodle-twirling dancing freak. no sits at the gorge, but, as was said, i'm not letting anyone who didn't pay for a seat get past me cause the chairs were removed. you're going to have to be a bit craftier than that.

[on41greyst]

Im confused about all the pushing and shoving everyone is talking about , ive been to 5 shows at the gorge , and when we remove the chairs we have twice as much room. no one pushes or shoves, Im really confused .it was so crowded when the chairs were not removed. im sure we will make the room to dance and breath , since certain people like the chairs so much you can surely have mine !

[seekup40]

Im confused about all the pushing and shoving everyone is talking about , ive been to 5 shows at the gorge , and when we remove the chairs we have twice as much room. no one pushes or shoves, Im really confused .it was so crowded when the chairs were not removed. im sure we will make the room to dance and breath , since certain people like the chairs so much you can surely have mine !

it is not any more crowded than any other venue. i was there in '02 and had no problems with room because of chairs. you people are just looking for an excuse to get closer, despite your shitty seats. removing the chairs does just that. anyone that comes close to me and my gear that is not supposed to be is getting whacked, mafia-style biotch.

[on41greyst]

it is not any more crowded than any other venue. i was there in '02 and had no problems with room because of chairs. you people are just looking for an excuse to get closer, despite your shitty seats. removing the chairs does just that. anyone that comes close to me and my gear that is not supposed to be is getting whacked, mafia-style biotch. I never sat further then row 23 , get closer ? what are you talking about ? crack head!

[asmjm39]

you're nuts, someone always wants to get closer, I have got to sit in that nirvana section of yours

[on41greyst]

it is not any more crowded than any other venue. i was there in '02 and had no problems with room because of chairs. you people are just looking for an excuse to get closer, despite your shitty seats. removing the chairs does just that. anyone that comes close to me and my gear that is not supposed to be is getting whacked, mafia-style biotch. I will be wearing a typical situation shirt with the #36 on the back , when i fold up my chair , i would like to see you do somthing about it!

[asmjm39]

I will be wearing a typical situation shirt with the #36 on the back , when i fold up my chair , i would like to see you do somthing about it!


oooo tough guy

[Duckyguy]

I will be wearing a typical situation shirt with the #36 on the back , when i fold up my chair , i would like to see you do somthing about it!

Yeah man, get into a fight! Do it before the show starts even. That would be great....that way you can be removed from the venue, and it would be one less chair remover gone :p

[dmb_41_sd]

Yeah man, get into a fight! Do it before the show starts even. That would be great....that way you can be removed from the venue, and it would be one less chair remover gone :p

This thing about folding chairs up is rediculous. We had some chairs folded up in front of us last year only because the people who were in them left half way through the show, they were morons who didnt like the show. Anyways, the chairs got folded up and it gave us all some space but only because those people left. I dont care what you say, they chairs will end up in piles, not neatly stacked, and people will be tripping all over them, people will be rushing the front.

[seekup40]

I will be wearing a typical situation shirt with the #36 on the back , when i fold up my chair , i would like to see you do somthing about it!

please...what a donkey.

[Rob D]

I will be wearing a typical situation shirt with the #36 on the back , when i fold up my chair , i would like to see you do somthing about it!i'd like to beat your ass just for wearing a dumb ass shirt like that.

[twosteppn36]

i'd like to beat your ass just for wearing a dumb ass shirt like that.




:lol seriously

[angelces]

Ahh the boys of Ants. Rob, Jason, Chris and Mark, you all crack me up, this thread was one of the best reads on here in a while. :lol

[angelces]

Ok, I was at CP, there were no seats. The front section was packed like a can of sardines, people kept pushing and pushing their way to the front. The lawn wasn't graduated. People were standing shoulder to shoulder. You couldn't move you couldn't dance you couldn't see shit. But yeah it was CP so it was well worth it. But I'm with the boys on this one, if I'm gonna pay for seats I want SEATS not a spot to stand on that someone push me out of and stand in front of me with their girlfriend and make out.

[Jon Gruden]

:lol

i just don't want to have 100 people pushing me, getting in front of me, etc. i paid for my seat and now i am getting pushed back. not cool.i just don't want 100 people pushing me...LOL...are you kidding me...you wouldn't be here if 100 people started pushing you....stop being such a bitch...

[greppson]

i just don't want 100 people pushing me...LOL...are you kidding me...you wouldn't be here if 100 people started pushing you....stop being such a bitch...
huh?

i went through the proper channels, paid my time in the warehouse and got my good seats. i don't want people pushing me, crushing me, getting in front of me pushing me back. sit in the damn seat you were given.

how fair is that someone who got the last row in the seated section can push their way up to the front row? there is a REASON why dmb does seating: so people don't mosh and rush the stage.

so chill dude. not really sure what you mean by: "you wouldn't be here if 100 people started pushing you". and i'm not being a bitch, i'm just giving the straight out facts. if it remains cool, then all the power to it, but once people start pushing me or trying to get in front of me, i'm not gonna take it.

[Jon Gruden]

well dude all i can tell you is this thread wasn't started to get everyone to ditch their chairs and run to the front and push your ass out of the way...thats just how your taking it...and don't give me that shit i've been warehouse member for X number of years and i deserve the seats i get...if you end up at the top of the pavilion will you think you deserve those seats, probably not...matter of fact you'll probably start bitching about that and say something like I"M NOT GONNA TAKE IT...and by the way what exactly does that mean, your going whip someones ass if they bump into you...man i'd hate to be that person...the piont of this thread was for people to create a little more space where their seats are so they move around a little easier..not to screw you out of your WH seats...

[Jon Gruden]

and one more thing...i don't think you'd me able to take 100 people pushing you in the back....it would be kind of hard to hold your ground, i would think you'd crushed...and you'd probably end up in the hospital...but thats just me, i don't think i've ever been pushed in the back by 100 people...

[Mark]

and one more thing...i don't think you'd me able to take 100 people pushing you in the back....it would be kind of hard to hold your ground, i would think you'd crushed...and you'd probably end up in the hospital...but thats just me, i don't think i've ever been pushed in the back by 100 people...
jason's point is that this is exactly what will happen if people rush the stage.

[Jon Gruden]

first thing is i'm just messing with the guy...because he seems so serious about this whole thing...who really cares...he's going to be at some shows that are going really over crowded and he's going to get bumped into....big freaking deal....whats he going to do when some people do fold their seats up, stop the show and protest...me i'd just go with the flow and not let it reunion the night...but thats how some fans are, i think sometimes poeple look for someone who's fucked up, just so they can complain about it here...

[asmjm39]

He wasnt complaining, just saying that he paid for his seat and he wants it, and frankly go so I. chaos belongs in the lawn

[kgiles21]

the reason that i want reserved seating is so that the people infront of me have tickets for "seats" and the people beside me have tickets for "seats". So, I dont deal with people crunching in all around me.. so i am not moving my seats and i dont care what any one else thinks...

[Jon Gruden]

i do not plan on folding my seat up either...i just get a kick out big a deal it was for this guy...it will be tight fit either way and folks my bump into you, so go into it with that frame of mind...not with the, i'm not gonna take it frame of mind...because your just asking for a bad night...

[kgiles21]

i do not plan on folding my seat up either...i just get a kick out big a deal it was for this guy...it will be tight fit either way and folks my bump into you, so go into it with that frame of mind...not with the, i'm not gonna take it frame of mind...because your just asking for a bad night...
yes i understand that it is a tight fit and there will be people around us and you will get bumped into.. i think that my last post was not conveyed very well. im just saying if you want to do the big dance party scene.. head to the lawn.. maybe that makes a little more sense....

[dmb_41_sd]

I just dont want people grabbing my chair and folding it up for me, if you do it right, be sure everyone around you wants to do it, dont just start doing it because YOU want to. Not everyone will want this or accept it. be respectful of the people around you.

[willnole]

I can't believe this thread is still going on :confused: :freak

[Jon Gruden]

i'm trying to keep it going because i think it's kind of funny...i've always been very respectful to the poeple around me and i'm not usually into the big dance party scene...altough i don't sit on my hands either...i guess what i'm trying to say is if some poeple are a little too much fun it usually dosen't bother me that much...i enjoy both the lawn and the pavilion equally, that's why i requested both...lawn night one and pavilion the next two nights...this will be my last post on this thread...

[Duckyguy]

I just dont want people grabbing my chair and folding it up for me, if you do it right, be sure everyone around you wants to do it, dont just start doing it because YOU want to. Not everyone will want this or accept it. be respectful of the people around you.

Exactly. That is was pissed me off in '02. Someone just took my chair and removed it. Thats why I grabbed it again and immediately put it back up.

[Mitza24]

[QUOTE=ryanfitz]I guess it's true that DMB fans are starting to become lamer and more selfish as years pass. Go to an OAR or Rusted Root concert and compare the crowd energy to that of a DMB concert. Don't get me wrong, DMB is my favorite band, and most definitely my favorite band to see live, but the energy from the crowd is seriously lacking...even at 9/8/02, which was the most crowd energy I've ever seen at a DMB concert.

I'm sorry that I'm starting to dish personal blows, and I'm not even going to to defend those that people have dished towards me. I guess we'll just see what happens.

QUOTE]

Fitz, you seriously need to get a clue. The problem is, you have yourself and other fans rip other peoples chairs out so you have more room to dance. Meanwhile your pissing these fans off that may want to sit down during some point in the show. My buddy has a bad leg, and can't stand up the whole show. The Mosh pit-not happening at any DMB show anytime soon. Go see a heavy metal band. Like others have said, if you need room, bring a big blanket on the lawn, you will have all the room you want. This is a ridiculous idea, and its fans like you that make the concert less enjoyable for others.

[on41greyst]

i'd like to beat your ass just for wearing a dumb ass shirt like that.
You better have that chair ready cuz your gonna need it !

[matradtk]

No offense, but if I pay for a seat, I want a seat. Not a clusterf*ck in front of the stage.

If you don't want seats, then go to the lawn.

Amen sister. I am paying top dollar for my seats, I'm keeping mine. The lawn is where you wanna be if you want room to move. Plus there are enough drunken assholes to worry about and police, believe me I've seen them. We don't need to give the security one more thing to worry about. And the thing about burning the chairs?! Are you friggin nuts? Do you want another Woodstock 99? I think not. :twak

[Rob D]

You better have that chair ready cuz your gonna need it !
oh i will. and you will recognize me by the lover lay down shirt w/ spotlight written on the back w/ glitter and blue water written down both of my pant legs. find me and we'll get it on.

[asmjm39]

oh i will. and you will recognize me by the lover lay down shirt w/ spotlight written on the back w/ glitter and blue water written down both of my pant legs. find me and we'll get it on.


Classic!!! :lol :lol :lol

[stephcrushu]

:D I love it! this thread kept me awake for the past 15 minutes.

[greppson]

i do not plan on folding my seat up either...i just get a kick out big a deal it was for this guy...it will be tight fit either way and folks my bump into you, so go into it with that frame of mind...not with the, i'm not gonna take it frame of mind...because your just asking for a bad night...
:lol

wow, you actually thought it was a big deal for me? i don't give a fuck if i get bumped a little during a show, heck i have bumped people accidentally as i have been groovin' to the tunes---what i am saying is that i have seen people jump seats, try to squeeze more people into not as many seats as there should be, etc. i would HATE to see what it would be like sans chairs. that's what i am afraid of. i see at least 10-20 people per show try to get closer, why not just be happy with the seats you got?

[ryanfitz]

Amen sister. I am paying top dollar for my seats, I'm keeping mine. The lawn is where you wanna be if you want room to move. Plus there are enough drunken assholes to worry about and police, believe me I've seen them. We don't need to give the security one more thing to worry about. And the thing about burning the chairs?! Are you friggin nuts? Do you want another Woodstock 99? I think not. :twak
If you thought whoever it was talking about burning chairs is serious, you are absolutely retarded.

[chris917]

If you thought whoever it was talking about burning chairs is serious, you are absolutely retarded.


that wasnt very nice.

[bertramcheeks22]

ya do it...see if u get anymore 3 night stands

[mihighdavehead]

I can't believe this thread is still going on :confused: :freak


Exactly what I was thinking... :BANG

[twosteppn36]

i can feel the love in this thread....

[twostep]

Don't take this the wrong way, but your comments made me want to hit you with a brick. See ya at the Gorge!


Thanks for saying that. I feel the same way! See ya at the Gorge with my ass in my reserved seat!

[on41greyst]

:lol seriously
the shirt is one of the originals that was sold at a show in 93.I dont wear it to many shows for the fact that everyone offers me tons of cash for it! but Im gonna wear it to gorge because I want you to know who I am !

[Rob D]

the shirt is one of the originals that was sold at a show in 93.I dont wear it to many shows for the fact that everyone offers me tons of cash for it! but Im gonna wear it to gorge because I want you to know who I am !
hey man, i don't care if anyone folds their chair, just don't touch mine. if you do, i'll bitch slap ya, then take your corny shirt off and offer it to the highest bidder. don't forget...i'll be the guy w/ everyday written on my jeans in glitter.

[Rob D]

and personally i can't stand the guy who wears the shirt of the artist they're seeing to the show. i fucking hate that guy.

[on41greyst]

and personally i can't stand the guy who wears the shirt of the artist they're seeing to the show. i fucking hate that guy. you know you think your different and special but you care to much about what other people think. guys like you act all big and tough , but when it comes down to it your very small and scared , its clear as day to a lot of people that you feel insecure and funny about loving dave and the band the way you do , you wouldnt wear that shirt because your afraid everyone will look right through you and see your love for what it is.
dont be afraid, Its just a shirt rob , its not gonna hurt half as much as the chair!

[on41greyst]

hey man, i don't care if anyone folds their chair, just don't touch mine. if you do, i'll bitch slap ya, then take your corny shirt off and offer it to the highest bidder. don't forget...i'll be the guy w/ everyday written on my jeans in glitter. 2,942 posts , 39 shows and a trip across the country to see dmb . what does it say when someone is that obsessed with dmb , but hates when someone wears a dmb shirt at a show? I know what that means :)

[Rob D]

2,942 posts , 39 shows and a trip across the country to see dmb . what does it say when someone is that obsessed with dmb , but hates when someone wears a dmb shirt at a show? I know what that means :)
good research man, i'm flattered. way to attack post count. too bad 98% of it happens in ndmbc...boring job = lots of free time. and i'm not afraid to admit my obsession to anyone and trust me, everyone knows. i just wouldn't be caught dead wearing a dmb shirt to a dmb show...i think it's the highest form of tool there is.

[Rob D]

i hope i do meet you, bro. i'd love to buy you a beer. :rolleyes:

[fleckhead]

when i saw Phil Lesh and Friends everyone on the floor moved the chairs out of the way and there was no mosh pit or people crushing to the front. It was very orderly, even without the chairs. to each his own though. have fun at the gorge.

[greppson]

i don't need to wear a shirt from 1993 to prove that i am a "real" fan.

[Mickey Carson]

good research man, i'm flattered. way to attack post count. too bad 98% of it happens in ndmbc...boring job = lots of free time. and i'm not afraid to admit my obsession to anyone and trust me, everyone knows. i just wouldn't be caught dead wearing a dmb shirt to a dmb show...i think it's the highest form of tool there is.
:thumbsup
"What's this? You're wearing the shirt of the band you're going to see? Don't
be that guy."

[fleckhead]

:thumbsup
"What's this? You're wearing the shirt of the band you're going to see? Don't
be that guy."
:lol :lol

[on41greyst]

[QUOTE=greppson]i don't need to wear a shirt from 1993 to prove that i am a "real" fan.[/QUOTE Who says they need to wear a shirt to prove to be a real fan? whats your IQ? forget it I already know! Its funny how we went from chairs to shirts. I mean everyone is obviously living pretty boring lives at this moment. the phrase "real fan " shouldnt even exsist. The way you feel about me wearing a certain kind of shirt doesnt seperate us as fans, it seperates us as people!

[asmjm39]

[QUOTE=greppson]i don't need to wear a shirt from 1993 to prove that i am a "real" fan.[/QUOTE Who says they need to wear a shirt to prove to be a real fan? whats your IQ? forget it I already know! Its funny how we went from chairs to shirts. I mean everyone is obviously living pretty boring lives at this moment. the phrase "real fan " shouldnt even exsist. The way you feel about me wearing a certain kind of shirt doesnt seperate us as fans, it seperates us as people!


^stop being a tool

[greppson]

obviously you don't know what sarcasm is, but since you decided it was prudent to ask my IQ...

you tell me it's stupid to say blah blah "real fan" blah blah, which was meant as a sarcastic shot at you, but then if we look back at what you said,

"the shirt is one of the originals that was sold at a show in 93.I dont wear it to many shows for the fact that everyone offers me tons of cash for it! but Im gonna wear it to gorge because I want you to know who I am!"

we can see that you are just trying to flaunt that you are a truer fan because you have a shirt from 93 and you are going to wear it so we all know that. i mean, honestly, who cares that you have a shirt from 93?

thanks.

[cavecricket34]

I've never worn a dmb shirt to a dmb show. In fact, the only shirts I own are 'lot shirts'. Does that make me a 'real fan'? :rolleyes:

[on41greyst]

obviously you don't know what sarcasm is, but since you decided it was prudent to ask my IQ...

you tell me it's stupid to say blah blah "real fan" blah blah, which was meant as a sarcastic shot at you, but then if we look back at what you said,

"the shirt is one of the originals that was sold at a show in 93.I dont wear it to many shows for the fact that everyone offers me tons of cash for it! but Im gonna wear it to gorge because I want you to know who I am!"

we can see that you are just trying to flaunt that you are a truer fan because you have a shirt from 93 and you are going to wear it so we all know that. i mean, honestly, who cares that you have a shirt from 93?

thanks. You have no clue

[greppson]

clue me in, oh wise one.

this true fan/real fan shit is stupid. it's a bunch of horse crap.

[ryanfitz]

I've never worn a dmb shirt to a dmb show. In fact, the only shirts I own are 'lot shirts'. Does that make me a 'real fan'? :rolleyes:
I've never worn a DMB shirt to a DMB show, I've always thought the "don't be that guy" thing is kind of funny. However, my buddy wore a DMB shirt to the show in Vancouver last year. It was the first time he's ever worn the shirt of the band he's going to see, and we met Dave and Carter before the show. He got it signed. I'm not superstitious enough to wear the shirts now, but I just thought it was a funny coincidence.

Back to the point...fold up your chairs. Yeah.

[Rob D]

this thread should be closed soon.

[dmb_41_sd]

I've never worn a DMB shirt to a DMB show, I've always thought the "don't be that guy" thing is kind of funny. However, my buddy wore a DMB shirt to the show in Vancouver last year. It was the first time he's ever worn the shirt of the band he's going to see, and we met Dave and Carter before the show. He got it signed. I'm not superstitious enough to wear the shirts now, but I just thought it was a funny coincidence.

Back to the point...fold up your chairs. Yeah.

If that movie was never made (dont be that guy), i'm not sure this conversation would ever happen. It's like going to a NFL game or MLB game and not wearing a jersey or something along the lines that support the home team (or away it doesnt matter). It's not frowned upon there, why is it any different at concerts. I wear shirts to shows about half the time, and i'm damn proud of it, and I AM THAT GUY, next time you see me tell me so, i'll say thanks.

And back to the thread, DO NOT fold up the chairs. Yeah, i said that right, DONT DO IT! I wont say thanks for that.

[fleckhead]

the don't be that guy thing was always around. it just because popular when PCU came out. and how popular is it? Only about 150 people saw that movie.

[Rob D]

i was just going to say that i had no idea what movie it was from...i've been preaching the "don't be that guy" practice for well over 10 years now (when did pcu come out?). and i think it differs from a sporting event. you go there to cheer on your team and help them win. a team needs that kind of support and assurance that there are people standing behind them. i would say that dmb in no way needs reassurance that they are one of the best bands in the industry and the fact that they saw people in the crowd wearing their shirts wouldn't affect their performance one way or the other.

[greppson]

can we not compare dmb to a sporting event? we already got enough idiots yelling for their team at concerts... these are shows, not football or basketball games people.

[dmb_41_sd]

I really wasnt trying to compare dmb to a sporting event in the sense that everyone should act like they are at a football game. I dont see how you connect people wearing dmb shirts to the ones that yell stupid shit at the band all night.

[matradtk]

:violent what the hell is wrong with wearing a DMB t-shirt at ANY time?! I own enough for one every day of the week and then some. I'd like to see any punk ass come up to me and give me shit when I wear my shirt to the concert. Get a life people! Borderline obsession, no wait, it's way beyond obsession! FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE CLOSE THIS THREAD MOD'S!

[Rob D]

:violent what the hell is wrong with wearing a DMB t-shirt at ANY time?! I own enough for one every day of the week and then some. I'd like to see any punk ass come up to me and give me shit when I wear my shirt to the concert. Get a life people! Borderline obsession, no wait, it's way beyond obsession! FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE CLOSE THIS THREAD MOD'S!
shhhh, no one was talking to you.

[dmbfan_garin]

1) Can I ask where all the chairs are going to go? It must be something like 5,000 or more chairs. What are we going to do with them, throw them off the cliff and into the river?
2) Do I care about Gate crasher? Well lets see I paid over $60 for my ticket they paid $35 to invade my space....hmmm stay in your seat or lawn section AS*H**E
3) I love the gorge to death however it has the worst reserved section of any venue I have ever been to.