The Sopranos

[mihighdavehead]

What does everyone think of this season so far? My favorite sunday show is back and I wanted to hear others' thoughts on the show.

I think something is going to happen to Junior this seaon, because he is obviously losing it. Tony's problems keep on growing and Adriana is a rat bitch. The previews for next week show AJ having some sort of drug problem which should be interesting to see how Tony reacts. I kinda wish Tony and Carmela would just kiss and make up, I liked seeing Tony at his own house rather than on a recliner at Janice's. Hopefully there are some peeps here that enjoy this show as much as I do.

[OklahomaMama]

so far so good....
i thought i was gonna pee myself when Junior thought that Curb Your Enthusiasm was him & Bobby on TV.... the writers must have gotten a real kick outta that.

do you think they've settled the issues between Paulie and Christopher now that they whacked a waiter and had some "male bonding"? :p

i really don't like the way that Carmela's character is developing...but then again, last season portrayed her as a shallow money grubbing you-know-what.

i'm interested in what Janice is up to.... notice any similarities between her personality and relationship with Bobby's children and Olivia's with her kids? talk about "turning into your mother"

[bdfresh62]

Yeah that part where they were watching Curb Your Enthusiasm was hilarious. So far the season is alright. I think this is going to be the year that Junior bites the dust. I also think either Paulie or Feetch will end up dying as well as Johnny Sac. As far as Adrianna goes something is probably going to happen. Wouldn't it be something if Tony found out and made Christopher cap her. Talk about drama.

[Rob D]

please just do a fucking search.

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=94959&highlight=sopranos

[OklahomaMama]

please just do a fucking search.

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=94959&highlight=sopranos
be nice, rob!

plus, the thread starter has 3 months seniority on ya so i wouldn't piss him off if i were you
;)

[mihighdavehead]

please just do a fucking search.


Sorry to offend you almighty one. I searched twice and both times it came up with nothing. Is it my fault the fucking search engine didn't find it??
Maybe I need to send you my thread ideas so you can search them for me, you obviously know some trick I don't. :rolleyes:

[OklahomaMama]

true.... i can't ever seem to get the search function to work properly
**********
*ahem* so..... about the sopranos, ya'll????

[GHB#13]

I think this season is shaping up well so far. I mean we've only seen three episodes and Mr. Chase has already cracked the story wide open with a ton of psossibilites. I think its very clever how he's able to weave in small tid bits that will mean so much more later, at the same time presenting a very compelling story that is entertaining right now and not just at the end of the season.

Anyway, my thoughts at this point are...
Junior is definitely going to die, being that this is the second to last season fot eh show, I just really don't see what more he can bring to it. plus we always seem to have a funeral every season as well.
I can't say I know what exactly is up with Janice, except that she obviously gonna become a pain in Tony's ass soon. Her marriage to Bobby kinda gives her the somewhat inclusion she's obviously been wanting for a long time. I think she see's Tony as her father, and really just want attention from him.
I think the thing between Paulie & Feetch is gonna get deadly real quick. I hope Paulie is the one who gets it too! I don't like his whole new school attitude, plus i've always thought he was a prick anyway. I don't know why he just rubs me the wrong way. Feetch is old school and apparently pretty bad ass! he's only been back a couple weeks and it looks like he's doing way better than Paulie every has in 20 o so years. I like him and I want to see him kill Paulie. This weeks previews allude to some type of alliance between Feetch and Christopher, so I hope maybe that means something. I think that Paulie & Christopher may have burried the hatchet on the surface, but I don't think Christopher has forgot at all.
Adriana is going to get killed soon. I think its only a matter of time before someone finds out. its obvious her and Chrissy's relationship is not the picnic it used to be, so that's all chrissy will need to hear to get rid of her. The only way i see it going OK for her is if she tells the women of the family and maybe they can help her out, but i don't know what they could do.
What's up with Buscemi's character?? I almost as annoyed as Tony with his whole massage therapy thing. How do you bring someone like Buscemi into a series like Sopranos and make him a massage therapist. I don't know, I just wanna see some more action from him, who knows where that stories going.
Anyone notice that Jonnie Sac's new right hand man is Joe Pesci's right hand man from Casino?? I don't know his name but he apparently is a bad ass, as most of his character's generally are! Jonnie Sac's not taking any shit this time atround and it looks like some people in New York are gonna die. Tony is being very smart by playing it cool. I think its his best bet for now. Don't take any sides, it can only get ugly.
AJ's upcoming drug problem was inevitable in my opinion. He wants to live with his dad. period. he's gonna do whatever it takes to get out of that house. it really sucks for AJ, I mean how are you supposed to respect someone who took all that crap for so many years and is just now screaming for help. at least that's the way I see it. He doesn't feel safe with Carmela and he doesn't trust her. The whole thing with Furio is starting to add up in his head, and he's more disgusted with her than Tony.

That's all I got for now... (wow! i didn't know I thought this much about the show!:D)

Hey does anyone know if that was Carmine who was at the FBI after the funeral 2 weeks ago? There was an older guy who appeared to be Carmine and it confused me, but they didn't really dwell on it much. it was just before they show the guys in the room listening to the tapes of Tony. It was the older guy who was helping them decypher what the tapes were saying and what Tony meant... Anyone know or can help would be great!

Peace,
Gary

[mihighdavehead]

As far as Adrianna goes something is probably going to happen. Wouldn't it be something if Tony found out and made Christopher cap her. Talk about drama.

:thumbsup
Someone needs to take care of her, nobody likes a rat...

[OklahomaMama]

i'm pretty sure that was carmine...
remember last season (or the one before) they showed him in front of an office depot with the feds saying he had to pick up some batteries? i thought it was odd that they just dropped the whole issue....

about adriana: i don't see her getting much help from the Mob Ladies Auxillary :p
look how they shunned Pussy's wife, you know?

[bdfresh62]

Isn't Carmine dead? I think the old guy is another one of Tony's guys.

[Rob D]

Sorry to offend you almighty one. I searched twice and both times it came up with nothing. Is it my fault the fucking search engine didn't find it??
Maybe I need to send you my thread ideas so you can search them for me, you obviously know some trick I don't. :rolleyes:
p.s. blow me. and all i did was click on the little search link up top and type the sopranos. real fucking rocket science. you waste bandwidth and it cost money for that shit. and, yes, please send me your thread ideas from now on. in fact, everyone do that...i'll regulate this shit once and for all. douchebag.

[OklahomaMama]

""Know what the biggest change is for me? Broads shavin' their bushes. I went over to Silvio's, it's like the Girl Scouts in there."" - Michele "Feech" La Manna

[mihighdavehead]

""Know what the biggest change is for me? Broads shavin' their bushes. I went over to Silvio's, it's like the Girl Scouts in there."" - Michele "Feech" La Manna

:lol :lol classic Soprano's

My favorite quote from last week was when Junior told the cop, "Go shit in your hat."

[GHB#13]

i'm pretty sure that was carmine...
remember last season (or the one before) they showed him in front of an office depot with the feds saying he had to pick up some batteries? i thought it was odd that they just dropped the whole issue....
That's what I thought, I just don't see how they faked his death though.

Interesting, I wonder if his son is in on it or not. Might be why he was in Miami all this time? very very interesting...

about adriana: i don't see her getting much help from the Mob Ladies Auxillary :p
look how they shunned Pussy's wife, you know?
Yeah, I was thinking maybe they might show her some love if she said something before it got too bad, but i guess you're right. Aprile's wife was talking about Pussy's wife as if she were the scum of the earth and she just happened to be married to a snitch, imagine if she were the snitch.

What do you all think about Buscemi's character?
I hate the whole massage thearapy thing... :mad:

[OklahomaMama]

That's what I thought, I just don't see how they faked his death though.

Interesting, I wonder if his son is in on it or not. Might be why he was in Miami all this time? very very interesting...


Yeah, I was thinking maybe they might show her some love if she said something before it got too bad, but i guess you're right. Aprile's wife was talking about Pussy's wife as if she were the scum of the earth and she just happened to be married to a snitch, imagine if she were the snitch.

What do you all think about Buscemi's character?
I hate the whole massage thearapy thing... :mad:
Tony B is NOT what i expected.... massage therapist indeed!
unless they use him to "rub" someone out :lol
(yeah, i know that was cheesy!)

i'm looking @ hbo to see who the hell the guy with the wire was....now that i think about it, it probably wasn't carmine

[OklahomaMama]

found this on the HBO sopranos forum

:haha http://www.hbo.com/img/core_template/spacer.gif
http://boards.hbo.com/images/folder.gif HBO (http://boards.hbo.com/index.jsp) / The Sopranos (http://boards.hbo.com/forum.jsp?forum=123)
Episode 54: Rat Pack Tony sizes up a contractor's gift, then reunites with his paroled cousin, Tony Blundetto. Paulie and Christopher relive some not-so-special memories; Carmela launches a film club; Adriana grapples with her guilt; and a familiar figure "crosses over."

Discuss this episode here.

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MantisMan (http://boards.hbo.com/profile.jsp?user=300003365) - 3/22/04 9:36AM PST (868 (http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jsp?forum=123&thread=300000191&start=868&msRange=15) of 882) http://boards.hbo.com/images/smreply.gif (http://boards.hbo.com/post.jsp?forum=123&thread=300000191&reply=true&message=300112462) http://boards.hbo.com/images/advise.gif (http://boards.hbo.com/advise.jsp?message=300112462) Re: Episode 54: Rat Pack > > Was that Carmine in the car with the FBI agent
> toward
> > the end of the show? Did they fake his death?
>
>
> Yup, that was Carmine... the FBI faked his death, he
> had been running the NY family and ratting everybody
> in the Northeast to the feds... after they faked his
> death they moved him to a secure location at Groom
> Lake, Nevada, where he spends his time playing
> canasta with Jimmy Hoffa, Andy Kaufmann, and Princess
> Diana. I have firm confirmation from an inside
> source that this will all be revealed in Ep. 56, with
> a guest appearance by David Duchovny....

[bdfresh62]

Ok, I found out who it is

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/episode/season5/episode54.shtml


episode 54

"Rat Pack"

Directed by: Alan Taylor
Written by: Matthew Weiner

Synopsis


"What kind of person does that? It's like Judas or something. Eating that last supper with Jesus and the whole time he knows they're gonna crucify him. I mean, at least Judas didn't go into any apostle protection program. He hung himself. He knew what he did."

On the eve of the opening of the Museum of Science and Trucking, Tony meets Jack Massarone at Napoleon's Diner. Massarone, as a gesture of "gratitude for all our work together," gives Tony a gift, a garish painting of the Rat Pack, and then gets down to business. He's concerned about the status of their next venture and prods Tony to articulate the details. Tony, as usual, is tight-lipped - which is a good thing, as FBI agents are eavesdropping, courtesy of a tiny microphone in Massarone's cap.

The Feds are intensifying their efforts to get Tony. In addition to Massarone, they've wired Ray Curto and have been pressuring Adriana, who finds the stress increasingly difficult to bear. "I'm being ripped apart here snitching on people," a distraught Adriana tells Agent Sanseverino, "For what? What do I get out of it?" Later, at a girls' night at Carmela's, Adriana has too much wine and almost confesses, but runs away sobbing instead.

Tony, unaware of all this, is focused on the homecoming of Tony Blundetto. The two Tony's grew up together, and Tony Soprano loves his cousin like a brother. So he's more than a little taken aback when Tony B. rebuffs his offer to give him a gig dealing stolen automobile airbags. After fifteen years behind bars, Tony B. wants instead to become a licensed massage therapist. "Look, I been away from all this a long time," he explains, "If I got a shot at staying out and putting shit together, I should take it." So Tony S. gets him a civilian job, delivering linens.

In addition to the change in his cousin, Tony has other shakeups to deal with. Carmela wants to file a separation agreement, and in New York, Carmine Lupertazzi is dead. At the wake, the animosity between Little Carmine and Johnny Sack is as open as the old don's casket. "Fucking Little Carmine," Johnny later vents to Tony, "And after what? Five years in Florida fixing wet t-shirt contests."

Meanwhile, Adriana discovers an upside to being a government informant. When Tina Francesco, her purported best friend, flirts with Christopher one time too many, Adriana has a unique solution - she tells Agent Sanseverino that Tina is an embezzler. Being an informant doesn't work out so well For Jack Massarone, however. Tony finds out about him and shortly afterwards Massarone is found in the trunk of his car, a bullet hole in his head and a golf club cover in his mouth. Later, on the Pulaski Skyway, Tony tosses the painting Massarone gave him out his car window and drives away.

[GHB#13]

Who the hell is Ray Curto?

[mihighdavehead]

Who the hell is Ray Curto?

Sounds like a rat, maybe he'll get whacked. :twak Probably one of Carmine's guys.

[GHB#13]

Sounds like a rat, maybe he'll get whacked. :twak Probably one of Carmine's guys.
I'll buy that. Maybe its one of his guys that looks similar.

Another thing I forgot to mention, anyone notice Feech's dislike for Tony?
Apparently he wasn't too happy with Tony's decision in Paulie's favor either...(nor was I! :violent )

I think that's gonna become a major issue towards the end of the season/series.
That could be who offs Tony! (which is my opinion of how the series will end. :( )

[OklahomaMama]

Who the hell is Ray Curto?http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0521087/

[OklahomaMama]

I'll buy that. Maybe its one of his guys that looks similar.

Another thing I forgot to mention, anyone notice Feech's dislike for Tony?
Apparently he wasn't too happy with Tony's decision in Paulie's favor either...(nor was I! :violent )

I think that's gonna become a major issue towards the end of the season/series.
That could be who offs Tony! (which is my opinion of how the series will end. :( )
i can't imagine the series ending any other way...
anybody know if a season 6 is in the works?

[GHB#13]

i can't imagine the series ending any other way...
anybody know if a season 6 is in the works?

Season 6 will be the last installment and will only be 10 epsiodes as opposed to 13 like the others. My understanding is that it is already written, but production will not start until later this year. Supoosedly the haitus won't be as long, but we shall see.

I read this in one of the original press releases announcing that the show was coming back! I'll find a link to it and post it later.

[OklahomaMama]

sweet!
i hate the long drought between seasons


guess i'll hate it even more when the whole shebang is over with...

but let's not dwell on THAT just yet

[gregory311]

Why are soap operas so popular?

J.

[OklahomaMama]

Why are soap operas so popular?

J.are you really classifying the sopranos as a soap opera?????
seriously, dude!

[dmbnj79]

Sopranos are the furthest thing from a Soap.

[GHB#13]

"So what do I find at the Pork store? A bunch of guys beating the meat." - Tony Blundetto

"You let that dry before you put on the second coat? Grandpa Munster over here. "
- Tony Blundetto pointing to Paulie's hair

"I tell you, I'm having a time. Stay out late. Come home drunk. Fuck anyone I want.

"So what's the difference?"

I don't know. It's a mind-set. "
- Tony Soprano & Silvio Dante :lol Classic.

[gregory311]

Please do tell why "the Sopranos" is not a soap opera. What exactly makes this show any different than "All My Children" or "General Hospital?"

Thanks.

J.

[dmbnj79]

Then tell me why 24 isn't considered a Soap Opera then? It's a drama show as well.

[mihighdavehead]

Soap Operas are romantic, warm stories about every day life. Soaps are on in the afternoon daily.
The Soprano's is a compelling drama that contains violence, crude/foul language, mob activity, murder, corruption, cheating, its on cable (TV-MA rating) once a week and only for three months out of the year. The Soprano's does not have any happy endings or morals to the story, it leaves you stunned with the harsh reality of the mob/gangster life.

[dmbnj79]

You explained the difference quite well.

[OklahomaMama]

what ree said :D

i was just gonna say in the sopranos there is no soap, no opera
:rolleyes:

[gregory311]

Actually, soap operas are different from other episodic shows because of its seriality.

Here's a great description by a guy named Robert Allen, and it applies to most TV, regardless if the show is on once a week or every weekday:

"The defining quality of the soap opera form is its seriality. A serial narrative is a story told through a series of individual, narratively linked installments. Unlike episodic television programs, in which there is no narrative linkage between episodes and each episode tells a more or less self-contained story, the viewer's understanding of and pleasure in any given serial installment is predicated, to some degree, upon his or her knowledge of what has happened in previous episodes. Furthermore, each serial episode always leaves narrative loose ends for the next episode to take up. The viewer's relationship with serial characters is also different from those in episodic television. In the latter, characters cannot undergo changes that transcend any given episode, and they seldom reference events from previous episodes. Serial characters do change across episodes (they age and even die), and they possess both histories and memories. Serial television is not merely narratively segmented, its episodes are designed to be parceled out in regular installments, so that both the telling of the serial story and its reception by viewers is institutionally regulated."

There's nothing wrong with soaps, but shows like NYPD Blue, 24, and the Sopranos are most certainly soap operas. A good counterpoint show is Law & Order. Occasionally there are references to past characters and such, but each episode can stand on it's own without relying on any history.

It's a matter of genre over episode content.

J.

[gregory311]

Almost forgot, why would calling it a soap opera make it a bad thing? The reaction I got was kinda defensive.

What's wrong with daytime soaps? I don't care for them, but they're still on TV after thousands of episodes so they must be doing something right.

J.

[OklahomaMama]

Almost forgot, why would calling it a soap opera make it a bad thing? The reaction I got was kinda defensive.

What's wrong with daytime soaps? I don't care for them, but they're still on TV after thousands of episodes so they must be doing something right.

J.i think it raised everyone's hackles cuz soaps are really waaaay out there nowadays.... alien abductions, ghosts, midgets that aren't really there.... ;)

[gregory311]

i think it raised everyone's hackles cuz soaps are really waaaay out there nowadays.... alien abductions, ghosts, midgets that aren't really there.... ;)

I didn't want to piss anyone off, but I feel that the Sopranos really is a soap. Just like the other dramas that fit the category.

I do understand that it's not like the ones you mentioned... ghosts and aliens.... I guess Brad Loves Dana Loves Sunny isn't exciting anymore.

J.

[OklahomaMama]

I didn't want to piss anyone off, but I feel that the Sopranos really is a soap. Just like the other dramas that fit the category.

I do understand that it's not like the ones you mentioned... ghosts and aliens.... I guess Brad Loves Dana Loves Sunny isn't exciting anymore.

J.yeah, i think general hospital's "luke rapes laura, luke marries laura" bullshit spelled the end for innocent daytime drama
:rolleyes:

[mihighdavehead]

Back to the show...

What does everyone think about Tony dropping a C-bomb on Dr. Melfi in the first episode? I can't see how their relationship could continue? Was that the end to that or do you think she will talk to Tony again? I also wonder why Meadow has not been in any of the shows this season so far? Hmmm

[gregory311]

What does everyone think about Tony dropping a C-bomb on Dr. Melfi in the first episode? I can't see how their relationship could continue? Was that the end to that or do you think she will talk to Tony again? I also wonder why Meadow has not been in any of the shows this season so far? Hmmm

This is exactly what I was talking about. No offense, and I won't interrupt the thread anymore, but you tell me the Sopranos isn't a soap opera and then post this?

I understand the show is popular, but please don't kid yourself about what it is.

J.

[OklahomaMama]

Back to the show...

What does everyone think about Tony dropping a C-bomb on Dr. Melfi in the first episode? I can't see how their relationship could continue? Was that the end to that or do you think she will talk to Tony again? I also wonder why Meadow has not been in any of the shows this season so far? Hmmm
re: tony & dr melfi:
as you recall, tony quit seeing her "professionally" last season but he's always had the hots for her. i thought it was interesting that he's boff any number of skanks while he was married but although he thought he was "in love" with melfi, he considered her taboo until the separation from carmela. IMO, he's still looking for a mother figure to love/support him and he thinks he can get that from melfi (approval seeking, etc)

re: meadow... i was wondering that too... she kinda faded away at the end of season 4... a few shots of her @ the legal center and some phone calls.... mebbe it's cuz she's a new bride & wants some personal time?? (as if 15 months downtime wasn't enough??)

to J. >>>> ok, i admit it... it's a soap! are you happy now??
:eek:
;)

[GHB#13]

I think the Dr. Melfi thing is going to come back up sometime this season. It would've been pointless to sign her on for another season if that's all she's gonna do. her name is still in the opening credits which leads me to believe there is still a story left for her somewhere. I can see only a few directions though, either she changes her mind and falls for Tony, which i thin would be the stupidest story ever. She coul make an aliance with Carmela maybe, say if Carmela starts to go see her or something, although i wouldn't see why she would at this time. Somehow someone could get to her because of Tony, i.e. threaten her, kidnap her, etc. or maybe with the AJ thing, and the inevitabe death of Junior and the marriage and everything building up, Tony could decide to start going back. Although, I don't see how it could work now.

as for Meadow, I remember hearing a soundbite on HBO's BUZZ where she said this season is more about the mob and less about the family, which i think alludes to her awareness of the small amount of screen time she's getting this season. She also has some other projects outside of the show that might have conflicted with the tapings... who knows? I think her character is kinda lost so there's not much to talk about. She obviously has been trying to make distance with herself and the family since the Jackie Jr. incident and I think the separation has been the perfect opportunity for her to start to make that break. From what we've seen so far, she's just been doing what was necessary to keep up appearances, like picking up AJ for Sunday dinner & going to her Uncle Tony's party, but i think she hasn't wanted to show an alliance to weither parent and is just doing her own thing. I don't see much for her in theis season except like Dr. Melfi, why sign her on for such a small part. maybe the thing with AJ's drug problem will get her to be around more.

we shall see...

[OklahomaMama]

whoa....
you've definitely given it a lot more thought than i have....
(feeling guilty...not a true sopranos fan..... BAD BRENDA!)
:p

[mihighdavehead]

What did everyone think about yesterday's episode? Most of the show was spent on Tony's family and AJ. I thought that was classic how Tony sent Feech back to prison :lol .

[asmjm39]

Feech had to go, he was becoming a big pain

[Matt]

One of the better episodes I've seen in a long time. Of course, I'm of the opinion that there hasn't really been a great episode since season 3. Last season was generally poor, IMO, and this season, while marginally better than last thus far, still has me sick of the soap opera BS. Adrianna, etc.

[asmjm39]

what a little brat that AJ, Tony should have given him a smack

[mihighdavehead]

Yeah I think Adrianna needs to get popped :violent

[asmjm39]

snitches end up in ditches

[Mark]

Yeah I think Adrianna needs to get popped :violent
she is going to be on the new "Friends" spin off. so i would expect she will be dead soon

[Matt]

she is going to be on the new "Friends" spin off. so i would expect she will be dead soon

The article I read about this specifically stated that it would not interfere with her contractual obligations to the remainder of this season as well as the 10 episode 6th.

[Crumbo]

Yeah I think Adrianna needs to get popped :violent

Christopher will whack her next week

(that's my prediction not a spoiler)

[Mark]

The article I read about this specifically stated that it would not interfere with her contractual obligations to the remainder of this season as well as the 10 episode 6th.
oh.. cool. the one iread didn't get that detailed.

she's hot. she needs to stick around for a bit longer.

[bdfresh62]

oh.. cool. the one iread didn't get that detailed.

she's hot. she needs to stick around for a bit longer.

Yeah the only really hot chick on the show not counting the strippers needs to stay.

[MistreatedLewis]

Yeah the only really hot chick on the show not counting the strippers needs to stay.

You don't like Jamie Lynn?

[asmjm39]

Mrs DiScala is just right with me

[bdfresh62]

You don't like Jamie Lynn?

I do but not as much as Drea. She's a full blooded Italian. :)

[dmbnj79]

Good. I hope they don't kill Adrianna off.

[dmbnj79]

http://www.sopranoland.com
here's a good sopranos site :)

[asmjm39]

thanks Ree, I am beyond addicted now

[dmbnj79]

I can give the Sopranos tour too. I've been certified already.

[bdfresh62]

So what did everyone think of tonights episode? I liked it, but it wasn't as good as last weeks.

[willnole]

I'm still pretty disappointed. It hasn't regained the edge it lost 2 seasons ago.

[gloco]

It was ok, i'm getting really sick and tired of all the drama about Tony's personality...i think it was a huge mistake to separate the Soprano's, but i imagine it's a sign that Tony is going to fall from grace eventually.

[Matt]

I think last night's ep. was the best since season 3. The intensity of the Tony/Chrissy situation was amazing - I know my heart was pounding. The telephone game was awesome. Junior: "And then he came all over the visor" :lol

[mihighdavehead]

Last night's episode was great!! It is shaping up like Christopher just might kill Adrianna after all. I thought he was going to last night :violent She is so hot, but so stupid. I seriously thought Tony was going to kill Chris...pretty intense. I am surprised that Tony went back to Dr. Melfi for help and then acted as if nothing happened between them :lol I think they are trying to soften Tony's character by showing he is confused and vulnerable with his personal life...if only he didn't piss off Carmela. He's learning the hard way that you "pay for what you get." Episodes are getting gradually better week to week.

[bdfresh62]

Is it just me or is Carmlea being very selfish? Everytime Tony goes over there she is complaining about something and calling him an asshole. To me she is being very selfish and not willing to forgive Tony for anything.

[dmb1spe]

F that ho. He should make her sleep with the fishes.

[OklahomaMama]

I think last night's ep. was the best since season 3. The intensity of the Tony/Chrissy situation was amazing - I know my heart was pounding. The telephone game was awesome. Junior: "And then he came all over the visor" :loli agree.... i almost spit my pop out @ junior's line :lol

funny how tony tried to do the right thing by avoiding temptation and it STILL turned around and bit him in the ass.

and carmella has turned the word "cunt" into a whole new dynamic :rolleyes:

[kas141]

I almost died laughing when Tony brought AJ back to Carmela, left the pizza on the floor, stormed out the door, and then came back to get the pizza.

[OklahomaMama]

"Irregular Around the Margins"

"Tony's spending so much time at the club.

Do you think it might have something to do with you?

Oh, if you think I'm gonna blow this guy for your sick purposes, you are sadly mistaken. " - Adrianna and FBI Agent Sanseverino

"What do you got to be stressed about? That bar?

War, Christopher? The Middle East?

You don't listen to the president? We're gonna mop the floor with the whole fuckin' world. The whole world's gonna be under our control. So what are you worked up about? " - Christopher and Adrianna

"I've been having trouble with my stomach. That's why I'm drinkin' White Russians." - Adrianna La Cerva

"Jesus Christ! She's a good looking woman. And she wants to f*#$ Barney Rubble?" - FBI Agent

"She's a knockout. A ten. And look at you, you're average at best. So you better re-concile yourself with that, or you're going to be paranoid your whole life." - Tony Soprano to Christopher

"Look, you got someplace, maybe we could talk?

Listen, it's 3a.m. and I just finished a 17 hour shift...

Any gunshot wounds, broken kneecaps? " - Tony Soprano and Tony Blundetto to ER Doctor

"Are you a physician?

No, I'm a pre-board certified massage therapist " - ER Doctor to Tony Blundetto

[GHB#13]

First of all...
What's everyone's beef with Carmela? I mean I understand that she's being a bitch all the time, but that's what happens when you're old and lonely? What does she owe Tony? forgiveness? respect? she gave him that for 20+ years and she's just completely fed up. I love that Chase manages to write the dialouge between them so eloquently. its very raw, feels real, and so pure. if you've ever lived in a divorced home, you know that is exactly what the post-separation conversations sound like. Carmela's not being a bitch, she just knows Tony way too well. If you really look at what she's saying to him, she cares for him alot still, she's just not willing to put up with his shit anymore. She's knows exactly what its going to get her. she made her mind up that she's through with it. Believe me, I want more than anyone else for Tony and Carmela to work it out, but realistically its just not logical. What she wants from him, if anything at this point, he's not willing to give. If he is ever willing to give that, he couldn't be the boss of the family. Carmela needs attention and LOTS OF IT!! They are two different people on two different pages in life. Tony's a prick. I love him for it, but he's a really big prick, and Carmela doesn't deserve that. He doesn't mean to be that way, but nonetheless there's nothing he can do to change it at this point. Carmela realizes that and is willing to cut her losses.

Sorry about that! I tend to put to much thought into these fictional characters, but I can't take all the Carmela bashing. Yes it sucks she broke it off with our main man Tony, but what if that was your mom or your sister or daugter, you would want her to be doing what she's doing. I also love that she's the only person that's got Tony's number. Know one else talks to Tony the way she does and there's a whole lot to be said there.

Anyway, about the rest of the show. Sucks to be Tony, huh? You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Personally, I think he should've killed Chris. I'd hate that he did, if he had, but I don't see things going well after something like this. Its going to haunt Chris for a long time, even after he gets rid of Adriana which i now think is inevitable. He's not gonna marry her now, no way. Dr. Melfi's excitment about Tony's rationalization was pretty humorous. I thought her character was bland for a while, but they brought her back in stride. The thing with Meadow at the club was interesting because her boyfriend seemed to know alot about Tony. Not exactly information you'd think she'd be sharing with her boyfriend. What's up with Tony Blundetto(Steve Buscemi's character) becoming a bigger wuss per episode? He saved Chris' life, but what the hell was he doing there anyway if he's not part of the business? I love busemi, but I hate his character right now...

My favorite part of last night's episode was when Tony brought AJ to Carmela because of the Chris situation and she's starts giving him shit about why he really came in with the pizza. I'm a sucker for the Tony vs. Carmela arguments. I think its great that chase shocases their talent and chemistry so well. You gotta think about the fact that there dialouge is probably not written the way they're saying, but they make it work so well. Its truly sacting at its best. I no suprise why they win the Emmy for Best Actor & Actress every year!

that's my $.02

See ya'll next week...

[OklahomaMama]

last night's episode: (discuss?)
episode 58
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"Sentimental Education"

Directed by: Peter Bogdanovich
Written by: Matthew Weiner

Synopsis


"From now on, anytime somebody steps in a pile of shit - it's gonna be called a 'Blundetto

Struggling with two huge laundry bags, Tony Blundetto sets his foot on the back of his Kim's Southside Laundry truck. Just as he's about to heave in the bags, the motor starts; the truck lurches away and Tony B. falls backward onto the street. He manages to get up and give chase, only to trip and scrape his shin, leaving it a raw, bloody mess. When he gets back to the laundry, his boss, Sungyon Kim, is convinced Tony B. masterminded the theft. "Believe me," he snarls, "I no forget you professional criminal."

But Tony B. is making an honest effort at civilian life. With the encouragement of Gwen MacIntyre, his girlfriend whom he met online while incarcerated, he's diligently studying for the massage therapist license exam, an effort which is "practically doing two years of medical school on my own." Eventually, Mr. Kim comes to appreciate the additional load Tony B. is carrying and calls him into his office. He makes an offer: Kim will finance a massage studio to be run by his daughter and Tony B. "You pass test," he tells his amazed employee, "then you, me, my daughter make the big success journey."

Tony B. isn't the only one facing an academic challenge. A.J. remains perilously close to failing English, so Carmela visits Mr. Wegler. In addition to discussing A.J., Mr. Wegler, AKA Bob, persuades Carmela to have dinner with him. Afterwards, they go to his place where, for the first time in twenty years, Carmela has sex with a man other than Tony Soprano. Later, an exhilarated Carmela sneaks home past A.J., who's moved back following a physical altercation with his father.

Soon, things are looking up for Tony B. He passes his exam and spends his time off single-handedly gutting and renovating the storefront that will become the massage studio. Then something extraordinary happens: one night as he and Gwen are out walking, a car zooms past them and a small bag is tossed out its window. The bag contains several plastic vials and ten thousand dollars. Gwen convinces Tony B. to throw away the drugs and put the money into the business. "You are doubly blessed," she tells him.

Carmela feels blessed, too. She's enjoying a full-fledged romance with Bob and despite her initial misgivings and Father Intintola's stern disapproval, she has no intention of ending it. But one night Bob unexpectedly announces that they should "take a time out." Earlier, he used his position to strong-arm A.J.'s English teacher into raising his grade on a term paper. Now he claims Carmela is a "user" who slept with him to get him to do it. Brokenhearted, Carmela later tells her dad, "Whatever I say, whatever I do, because I was married to a man like Tony, my motives will always be called into question."

And Tony B. soon takes a detour on the big success journey. He blows his windfall on gambling, clothes for himself and toys for his sons. Then, while painting the walls of the massage studio, he quarrels with Gwen on the phone about a screwed-up furniture delivery. Immediately after, Kim shows up and within minutes Tony B. verbally attacks him. "You fuckin' stroll in?" he screams, "I'm over here bustin' my fuckin' ass!" Then it becomes physical, with Tony B. punching Kim in the face and beating him with a two-by-four. He ends up throwing out his back - and any hope of going straight. Soon after, he meets Tony S. at Vesuvio. Gingerly, he sits down, then says to his cousin, "You mentioned you might need someone to run the swag airbags."

[bdfresh62]

It was an alright episode. Certainly it was not as good as the past two in my opinion. It's nice to see them finally develop Buscemi's character more.

[OklahomaMama]

It was an alright episode. Certainly it was not as good as the past two in my opinion. It's nice to see them finally develop Buscemi's character more."alright".... my sentiments exactly
tony s. was certainly absent.... but i liked seeing more of tony b.

[mihighdavehead]

Now Blundetto is gonna get into some gangsta shit, finally. I was getting sick of the whole straight act. Last night was kind of disappointing after the last two episodes, but next week should be good. I think its funny how Carmela's cheating is backfiring on her :lol

[OklahomaMama]

i was on to carmela's "using" the boyfriend deal from the get go...
she's a chronic manipulator.... look how she put the squeeze on her neighbor's sister to get that letter for Meadow (for Georgetown). then she has the nerve to get all "boo hoo" when the guy called her on it

[dmb1spe]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. F that ho. Tony S. needs to give her some cement boots and take her swimming in the East River.

[OklahomaMama]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. F that ho. Tony S. needs to give her some cement boots and take her swimming in the East River."Divorce: Mob Style"
:lol

hey, alan...how you doin'?
:D

[timmyt23]

Carmela has gotten on my nerves for the last three years. It's time to exit her ass.

[pichtd]

Last nights wasn't as good, but they needed to bring Tony B. into the family. Hopefully more like last week will be coming.

[OklahomaMama]

Carmela has gotten on my nerves for the last three years. It's time to exit her ass.yup..... honestly, i find very few redeeming qualities in her character... she's such a hypocrite...
just because she didn't physically boink the priest & the wallpaper guy doesn't mean she wouldn't have if given the opportunity. and the way she bitches & moans about tony's given profession but still holds out that manicured hand for the perks & benefits.... grrrr!

[gloco]

I'm honestly getting sick and tired of the entire cast, lol. They are becoming so pathetic...it's getting to the point where i think the entire cast needs to get whacked because i'm losing interest in all of them. I can't stand Meadow and Anthony, why don't they write them off the show already....and Carmela too. It's like these three characters are written to cling onto anything. Look at Anthony for instance, his character has become such a loser, how can i have any interest since he's become so one dimensional?

[timmyt23]

yup..... honestly, i find very few redeeming qualities in her character... she's such a hypocrite...
just because she didn't physically boink the priest & the wallpaper guy doesn't mean she wouldn't have if given the opportunity. and the way she bitches & moans about tony's given profession but still holds out that manicured hand for the perks & benefits.... grrrr!
That's exactly the thing. She bitches and moans about how no one pays her respect or attention. Ok fine, if you weren't such a transparent, greedy you-know-what, then maybe people would respect you. And all she does is want more, more, more, why doesn't she go out and get a job!! She lives a life of riches, with no real responsibilities other than her kids, who are pretty much grown and the amount of influence she will have on them at this stage is pretty much gone.

And, yes I realize it is a TV show, but it's one of my favorites, so I get really into it.:violent

[OklahomaMama]

i've always thought the kids were spoiled little shits....so they can go..... let's not whack tony... just make him homeless or something...for empathy :p

this season thus far has been rather lackluster, IMO

[mihighdavehead]

So what did everyone think?
I thought Tony was gonna hit it with that old ass last night :eek: He finally came to his senses and I found it interesting that he got emotionally hurt when he realized he is just like his father. The Christopher rehab story was kind of funny, but boring. I had a feeling Junior was going to break down going to all those funerals, because he did the same thing last season. I say last night's episode gets a 6 out of 10.

[OklahomaMama]

So what did everyone think?
I thought Tony was gonna hit it with that old ass last night :eek: He finally came to his senses and I found it interesting that he got emotionally hurt when he realized he is just like his father. The Christopher rehab story was kind of funny, but boring. I had a feeling Junior was going to break down going to all those funerals, because he did the same thing last season. I say last night's episode gets a 6 out of 10.i thought the "MEH" factor a little different.... 5/10
i got a kick out of junior scouring the obits just so he could get out of the house....
i found the tony/dad's goombah thing interesting....was he looking for a mother figure since his was such a nutbag? hmmmmm...

[asmjm39]

meh not that great last night, I have been catching up on the previous seasons, and Richie Aprile, what a psycho

[mihighdavehead]

This week's episode was pretty good I thought. I was kind of surprised Carmela let Tony kill it for old time's sake :cool: . Blundetto looks as if he might get whacked for his get rich quick idea. Funny how he shoots some people after he scolds his boys for stealing?? I think next week is gonna make up for mediocre shows recently.

[Matt]

This week's episode was pretty good I thought. I was kind of surprised Carmela let Tony kill it for old time's sake :cool: . Blundetto looks as if he might get whacked for his get rich quick idea. Funny how he shoots some people after he scolds his boys for stealing?? I think next week is gonna make up for mediocre shows recently.
I've tried telling myself that for the longest time, and week after week im disappointed. Save for a couple of eps. this season, it's been weak, much like S4. This thread is evidence of the show's downfall. It still is one of the best shows on TV, but if it were true to its form of the first 3 seasons, this thread would be hopping.

[asmjm39]

not too impressed this week, though I enjoyed Season 4, stuff is slowly building though

[GHB#13]

I have to admit that I am starting to get a little pissed. Last season had its slow moments but overall I thought it was good because the characters seem to develop a lot more than in any other season. This season just seems to drag on and on and on. I agree with whoever posted a while ago that I'm getting to the point where I want to see everybody in the whole Soprano family get whacked. They're all just a bunch of big babies(I even retract my earlier statements about Carmela, she is becoming a SUPER KING KONG MEGA MEGA BIATCH!).

I remember reading an article right before the release of the new episodes, that David Chase had planned on this being the last season, but HBO talked him in to 10 more episodes before starting to film this season. I'm starting to think that these episodes are just a bunch a crap that they came up with to fill in the story he already intended to conclude in this season. It seems like all these stories start and just end. No nicely woven threads like previous seasons, its beginning to have the feel of a sitcom. All the stories seem self contained in the episode. You really don't need to be a fan to catch on. Its a slap in the face to those of us who are devoted and are actually fans. Everything they do related to the mob has a slapstick feel to these days. With the exception of Tony last week with Phil Leotardo (and the situation with Chrissy but he didn't actually kill Chrissy so it loses most of its merit), every single hit or tough situation has been very comical as opposed to dramatic.

I see this as a lack of interest on the part of the writers and people involved with the show that will ultimately result in the same from the viewers. I think HBO threw enough money his way that he was willing to come up with something to do in between now and what he already knows will be the end of the series. It seems like this season is setting up to have nothing to do with the next and with the exception of Carmela & Tony's separation, which i will admit is a big exception, really has no reference to the previous season. My understanding is that we only have 5 episodes left. Is this all we're gonna get? Blundetto "might" get whacked. Carmela is gonna become an even bigger "bitch". Junior is gonna die of self-pitty. Nothings happening in New York, even though it already should have. I mean come on, all these episodes about old people are getting ridiculous. How many old people do you think really watch this show. Try speaking to your audiecne.

Sorry, I'm just venting...

In Conclusion, I hope it gets better from here, but I'm not holding my breath. No matter what happens from here on out, these first eight episodes have and will forever be a huge let down. Even the episode with Adrianna and Tony loses merit for being associated with this bunch of lousy episodes. i will continue to watch until the conclusion of the series but I don't see myself buying Season 5 anytime soon. With the way this season is shaping up, they better get season 6 out soon, because if it stays like this I don't think there will be many people interested in what happens to the Soprano Family a year and a half from now, like they were this time.

just my $.02 & frustrations with the show(characters) i love so much.

Peace,
. . : : G H B : : . .

[Matt]

GHB -

I think you hit the nail on the head perfectly. One huge letdown is this New York thing. What ever happened to this all-out war with New York that was supposed to happen? The ball has been dropped so many times (*cough* Russian *cough*) that it's just one big letdown after another.

[bdfresh62]

Well I finally got caught up with the previous two episodes. I really didn't like the one with Tony and his dad's mistress. It seemed really boring.

I did however enjoy the recent one with Carmela's dads birthday party. I was kind of shocked that Tony and Carmela got back together for a night. I deep down kind of wish they work out their differences, but I do not think it will happen. I'm also glad to see more of Tony B. He really bit off more than he can chew for Tony and this New York thing. Tommorow nights episode looks really good.

[saygoodbye12]

Only read if you watched it...








































Seeing vito go down on that security guard was just about the funniest thing on that show ever. :lol

[timmyt23]

Only read if you watched it...








































Seeing vito go down on that security guard was just about the funniest thing on that show ever. :lol
:thumbsup My brother and I were watching, and kind of looked at each other like what? It was a little startling. We thought that Finn was going to have an unfortunate construction accident.

[Crumbo]

another shitty episode

[bdfresh62]

:thumbsup My brother and I were watching, and kind of looked at each other like what? It was a little startling. We thought that Finn was going to have an unfortunate construction accident.

Yeah thats what my dad and I were like. I thought this was a good episode. Things are starting to pick up. Next weeks looks good too.

[GHB#13]

I'm sorry to be a pesimist, but things are starting to pick up wth four episodes left. I liked yesterday's episode but it was long overdue. we should've been watching episodes like that one way back at week 2 & 3. still nothing of substance yet...

[mihighdavehead]

Thoughts about this week's episode.....

Johnny Sack knows Blundetto killed Peeps. :violent

Finn is a spoiled SoCal pussy. Meadow deserves better.

Vito is gay. :lol :lol

Carmela realized Tony is untouchable.

Tony on therapy: "It's like taking a shit."

[asmjm39]

good episode, can't wait for next week, when Christopher gets vato laco on Tony B

[Matt]

Is this a sign of things turning around for this series? The last three episodes, in my opinion, have been fantastic. It had gotten to the point where I was disappointed with pretty much everything since Pine Barrens, but these last three have just been great! And from everything I read, next week's ep. (The Test Dream), is a dream episode with all kinds of old characters making returns. It's about effin time this series got back on its feet. Let's hope it's back to stay.

[asmjm39]

so much for the vato loco, but Tony is pushing the buttons to make himself fell better. Will he align with Little Carmine? I hope so, Johnny Sack pissed me off this week

[willnole]

Was Pine Barrens the Buscemi directed episode?

[Matt]

Was Pine Barrens the Buscemi directed episode?
Yes.

And I'm changing the title of this thread to the correct spelling.

[willnole]

That was easily their best episode.

[Mark]

that is, by far, my favorite episode.

[bdfresh62]

Yeah good episode.

[proudestfan]

Anyone know what song that was at the end of the last episode. I really liked it. Kind of sounded like the Kinks?

[Matt]

Anyone know what song that was at the end of the last episode. I really liked it. Kind of sounded like the Kinks?
Mighta been The Kinks. Try hbo.com. I know that 'University', S3E06, started out with "Livin' on a Thin Line" by The Kinks. Great tune. :thumbsup

[proudestfan]

Mighta been The Kinks. Try hbo.com. I know that 'University', S3E06, started out with "Livin' on a Thin Line" by The Kinks. Great tune. :thumbsup
Yep, it was the Kinks-I'm not like everybody else. I have to get this.
Livin' on a thin line-Great tune indeed.:thumbsup

[gloco]

yep, classic episode.

SPOILER

I love how Tony purposely pissed off his sister at the end and she came after him with a fork and he walked out smiling!

[proudestfan]

I hate dream sequences! Horrible episode.

[seantrantham]

I hate dream sequences! Horrible episode.
:thumbsup

[OklahomaMama]

definitely a "what the FUCK" episode....
although i will give them credit for this... the flow of the whole sequence was realistic as far as how wierd dreams are, you know?

[mihighdavehead]

Blundetto started a war and I think he is the next to go :violent
That was a wierd ass dream that Tony had... :confused:
Deep down Tony and Carmela want to get back together.

[flyer3468]

I actually liked the episode because it seemed like a real dream. How they kept changing topics every 45 seconds. I liked when he was in the bathroom and he checked behind the toilet ala "The Godfather"

So far this season and last season they just keep trying to develop characters as much as possible. I think this was great because you actually know what Tony is thinking deep down.

[dmbnj79]

There are so many allusions to The Godfather in this show it's great.

This was a very strange episode, definitely not the greatest. Did anyone catch who wrote it? Normally Michael Imperioli writes the great episodes, I hope he didnt' write this.

I'm all for a Carm & Tony reunion. I want them back together so badly.

I read in the paper that Adrianna is the next to go, and Silvio's gonna whack her. It looks like Ade's next. :(

A war is on.....this is gonna be one hell of a season!

[bdfresh62]

Just saw this now on HBO Demand. Great episode. I really liked the dream sequence. I also agree with the person above that said Tony B started a war.

[dmbnj79]

He did, and I think it was premeditated.

[DawnsPT]

I think tony b is the next to go. Tony seems like he's had enough of his screw ups.
And I think Tony & Carm will get back together.

[Crumbo]

:thumbsup

finally a good episode :D

[soupsmp]

There are so many allusions to The Godfather in this show it's great.

This was a very strange episode, definitely not the greatest. Did anyone catch who wrote it? Normally Michael Imperioli writes the great episodes, I hope he didnt' write this.

I'm all for a Carm & Tony reunion. I want them back together so badly.

I read in the paper that Adrianna is the next to go, and Silvio's gonna whack her. It looks like Ade's next. :(

A war is on.....this is gonna be one hell of a season!

Nice call. Christopher is a little fucking weasel. How many times, over the five seasons, has he absolutely decked Adrianna? Hysterical.

[timmyt23]

:thumbsup

finally a good episode :D
It took so long but they finally came back to their senses.

[bdfresh62]

Yeah this was a great episode. Nice twist with Chris faking a suicide so they can whack Adrianna. Sucks to see the hot chick go though.

Besides that, war is on the fore front for Tony and Johnny Sac. The finale should be great. Hopefully they will also wrap up the whole Vito/gay thing.

[dm40band]

Yeah this was a great episode. Nice twist with Chris faking a suicide so they can whack Adrianna. Sucks to see the hot chick go though.

Besides that, war is on the fore front for Tony and Johnny Sac. The finale should be great. Hopefully they will also wrap up the whole Vito/gay thing.

:thumbsup

i can't wait for 2 weeks im actually glad they extended it and it wont be next week cus anticipation (sp?) will make it that much better

[pichtd]

Last night kicked ass. Can't wait for the finale.

[comeandsee41]

Hopefully they will also wrap up the whole Vito/gay thing.
I think due to the fact the he and meadow and engaged, that story line will definately leak into the final season. you can't really rush that story line, especially since they haven't touched it in a few weeks.

great epiode though. i though the adrianna whacking was a little weak, but then again you can't expect too much when killing a woman on this show. imo, christphopher should have chocked her to death, that would have been a bit more dramatic. as soon as tony said sil was coming to pick her up, you knew it was lights out for her.

next week the shit officially hits the fan. johnny sack with die, philly will die, tony b will die, and another jersey guy will die.

[SideShowJohn]

Best episode this season, by far! Yeah, I was all excited when they showed Ade driving south on 95, like she finally got away, then they flash back to her in the car and she looks out the window and sees nothing but trees. That got intense I thought.

Not to mention the whole NY/NJ war that started.

[Mark]

i wish we got HBO . fucking CRTC :violent

so, adrianna is dead? :(

[SideShowJohn]

so, adrianna is dead? :(
She sure is

[Trippin4136]

24 and Sopranos coming to an end together....wow

I thought the meeting Tony and Johnnie Sac had under the bridge was great. I think Tony was going to geniunely whack Tony B but John's disrespect led him to change his mind.


It is soooooo on.

[SideShowJohn]

24 and Sopranos coming to an end together....wow

I thought the meeting Tony and Johnnie Sac had under the bridge was great. I think Tony was going to geniunely whack Tony B but John's disrespect led him to change his mind.


It is soooooo on.
Who else was hoping that Tony would turn around an whack Jonnhy Sack under the bridge?

[dmb1spe]

Great episode last night... really looking forward to the finale.

[bdfresh62]

Oh yeah I completly forgot with Adrianna getting whacked, what do you all think of Tony and Carmela? You think it will last? I for one was happy to see them get back together.

[Trippin4136]

I just think its funny how Tony bought himself back into the house. As well as AJ's "this is fucking weird comment".

He is just buying his way out of everything currently.

[mihighdavehead]

Who else was hoping that Tony would turn around an whack Jonnhy Sack under the bridge?
:thumbsup
I can't stand Johnny Sack and his hippo wife :babe

Great episode last night.
I am glad Tony and Carm are back together.
I thought Christopher was going to kill Adrianna :violent
I am glad the rat bitch is gone, the FBI people are annoying and maybe they won't be in the finale.

[SideShowJohn]

:thumbsup

I am glad the rat bitch is gone, the FBI people are annoying and maybe they won't be in the finale.

Yeah, I still don't know why the writers wanted to pursue that story line, everyone hated it. When ever I see an FBI agent I know it's a good time to hit the bathroom cuz I won't be missing anything good.

[proudestfan]

Carmella has something up her sleeve. She's no dope, like Ade is. The Feds will be around, apparently, there's another rat. Did ya catch that?

[Trippin4136]

Whatever happened to that wire they planted in the Sopranos' basement in like season 2ish?

[Crumbo]

Whatever happened to that wire they planted in the Sopranos' basement in like season 2ish?

it was in a lamp....Meadow took the lamp to school with her

[proudestfan]

Maybe Carm's the rat! ;)

[SideShowJohn]

Carmella has something up her sleeve. She's no dope, like Ade is. The Feds will be around, apparently, there's another rat. Did ya catch that?
No, I must've missed that (maybe in the bathroom, hehe). What are you referring to?

[proudestfan]

No, I must've missed that (maybe in the bathroom, hehe). What are you referring to?
If you have On Demand, watch it again. I know I need to. the one fed says something about CI no. 12. CI being Confidential informant. And they never showed Addrianna getting shot. Although I believe she's dead. And even though she signed on for the 6th season, it'll be in dream sequenses, Chrissy will have night mares. And now I think he'll expect Tony B to be killed since he gave up Ade for Tony S.

[bdfresh62]

The is another informant the old guy Ray Curto (he's the one who kinda looks like the father Carmine). This is taken from Epsiode 54 synopis on HBO.com:

The Feds are intensifying their efforts to get Tony. In addition to Massarone, they've wired Ray Curto and have been pressuring Adriana, who finds the stress increasingly difficult to bear. "I'm being ripped apart here snitching on people," a distraught Adriana tells Agent Sanseverino, "For what? What do I get out of it?" Later, at a girls' night at Carmela's, Adriana has too much wine and almost confesses, but runs away sobbing instead.

[SideShowJohn]

The is another informant the old guy Ray Curto (he's the one who kinda looks like the father Carmine). This is taken from Epsiode 54 synopis on HBO.com:
I thought they killed him

[bdfresh62]

I thought they killed him

No that was Massarone.

[SideShowJohn]

No that was Massarone.
Ah, I"m all screwed up.

[comeandsee41]

What do you guys think Chris will have to do stay alive in the family? Obviously he should be dead. Family member or not, he should have been clipped along side adrianna. i wonder what he told Tony to convince him he really had no idea about adrianna. he even said in the trailer for next week that he will do something that will prove he is dedicated to the family. i dont think it will be wacking tony b, cause he wants to kill him, and johnny sack is too easy, maybe finn???

[bdfresh62]

What do you guys think Chris will have to do stay alive in the family? Obviously he should be dead. Family member or not, he should have been clipped along side adrianna. i wonder what he told Tony to convince him he really had no idea about adrianna. he even said in the trailer for next week that he will do something that will prove he is dedicated to the family. i dont think it will be wacking tony b, cause he wants to kill him, and johnny sack is too easy, maybe finn???

Why would he kill Finn who is Meadows fiance? If he did that he is as good as dead. Maybe he will kill an FBI agent or Phil Leotardo.

[comeandsee41]

Why would he kill Finn who is Meadows fiance? If he did that he is as good as dead. Maybe he will kill an FBI agent or Phil Leotardo.
some shit could go down between finn and vito, hell remember jackie jr. not EXACTLY the same thing, but who knows. it has to be someone important. i think ny it too easy of a target. but i do like your fbi agent theory, def a possibility!

[SideShowJohn]

It'll probably be Jchnny Sack, Chris doesn't always think things through

[proudestfan]

:lol Big gay Vito! :lol

[mihighdavehead]

Chris doesn't always think things through
Yeah like telling Tony he snorted some H and then getting his ass beat. :twak

[gloco]

Yeah, last night's episode was fantastic. Can't wait for the season finale!

[dmbnj79]

I gotta wait TWO weeks for it. Damnit.

[007]

Just watched it ...

As a diehard fan I think I can safely say it was a top-3 sopranos ep of all time for me.

[dm40band]

Just watched it ...

As a diehard fan I think I can safely say it was a top-3 sopranos ep of all time for me.

wait until 2 weeks and i think that will be the best episode

[OklahomaMama]

my old man came up with this brilliant (in his mind anyway) theory that christopher & adrianna go into witness protection and chris writes a screenplay that IS the entire show....

then she gets whacked and there goes his theory up in smoke! :p

that did really shock me though... i expected mebbe some of the crew would be involved, but not christopher... and with such callousness. but then again, that is what they do for a living, basically

[asmjm39]

excellent episode, and I cannot wait for the finale

[saygoodbye12]

Just watched it ...

As a diehard fan I think I can safely say it was a top-3 sopranos ep of all time for me.
:thumbsup without a doubt.

The Christopher and Adriana scene was awesome.

[smallwaise]

this episode and the one where chris flips out over tony and adriana's car accident ahve been the only ones really worth remembering from this year, but those were both outstanding

surprised they killed adriana off but it also had to be done

as for johnny sack and the finale, crazy shit bout to go down! can't wait, a long and for the most part eventless season has finally built up to an awesome ending

[dmb1spe]

Only a couple of more days. Then the shit hits the fan.

[FrankTheTank]

i'm so excited!

[dmb1spe]

I think Tony ought to call you Tate. And whack Johnny Sack's bitch ass right there on the Turnpike.

[FrankTheTank]

I think Tony ought to call you Tate. And whack Johnny Sack's bitch ass right there on the Turnpike. i'd do it. and i actually liked adriana a lot, i thought she was smokin hot! i was really upset that she got killed off, but yeah, what had to be done had to be done.

[dmb1spe]

You know Tate... this thing of ours.

[Beefsteak1138]

I miss Pussy.



Also, I miss that character played by Vincent Pastore. ;)

[RememberTwo]

i was talking to someone and they had this theory that adrianna isn't really dead. they never showed her body, which they almost always do when someone gets whacked. I could totally see tony sparing her life so she could get out of there. the FBI might think she is dead and question christopher about it, which is why tony didn't tell him yet that she is ok. just a theory...

[GHB#13]

I heard on the radio this morning a very plausible plot for the finale. The DJ said that he got it off the internet, but didn't reveal his source, but also cautioned anyone who didn't want to know to turn down the radio. I kinda wished I had. It sounds pretty much like the only way this final story could make sense. Especially because this show usually goes with the assumption that "life goes on" in between the end of the last season and the beginning of the next. This plot is the only way all the loose ends get tied up so that we don't overwhelmingly worry about what's going on in the hiatus. PM me if you're interested in know, but I don't want to spoil it for everyone else. If enough people are interested, I'll just post it here. I've been a fan since episode one first aired, and this sounds alot like David Chase's style, and also a perfect way to end a season.

[OklahomaMama]

thanks, gary :thumbsup

[MoonOfEnder]

Season Finale.

It better be worth the wait!

[comeandsee41]

wow i love this show, but thumbs waaaay down! :( All that build up all season with new york for nothing. if tony would have been caught by the feds and the season ended like that, then MAYBE i would have enjoyed this epiode, but that was very dissapointing.

[Crumbo]

yea.....that was pretty lame:(

[RememberTwo]

nah it sets up for tony to run the whole operation

[bdfresh62]

That was a great episode. I really enjoyed it. Sucks that Tony had to knock off his cousin for nothing it seems like now.

[asmjm39]

thats what it seems, I was a little let down too, but big things in the future for big Tony.

The whole Paulie thing was interesting though, esp since Paulie used to whine to Johnny Sack when he was in prison.

[Rob D]

so brooklyn's in the pen. tony b could have been saved. and tony's about ready to take everyone down. i hope next season is good.

[seantrantham]

How long do we have to wait for the next season? A year and a half?

[Rob D]

How long do we have to wait for the next season? A year and a half?
probably...you know how hbo does it.

[Mark]

i heard that they may only do 10 shows next season and then end it. you need to have 75 episodes to put a show in syndication. after this season they will have 65 episodes.

[comeandsee41]

probably...you know how hbo does it.
well the sixth and final season-which is in fact only 10 episodes-is slated to start back up in january. but like you said, it is hbo, so who knows!

[proudestfan]

I thought it was so funny seeing Tony hauling ass through the snow.
The "bear" made it back home.

[mihighdavehead]

Great end to the season!

Tony blew Blundetto's brains bye-bye.

Johnny Sack got pinched. :cool: I hate him.

Close call for Tony though..whew.

[OklahomaMama]

i thought it was excellent. :thumbsup
wasn't it chilling to hear christopher talking about adrianna? no sadness or remorse just "i can't believe that bitch would rat me out cuz she couldn't do five years" *shudder*
i thought for sure he would puss out like he usually does under pressure... guess he finally grew a pair

can't WAIT til next season (whenever the hell THAT'S gonna be)
:rolleyes:

[ktyladie]

i thought it was excellent. :thumbsup
wasn't it chilling to hear christopher talking about adrianna? no sadness or remorse just "i can't believe that bitch would rat me out cuz she couldn't do five years" *shudder*
i thought for sure he would puss out like he usually does under pressure... guess he finally grew a pair

can't WAIT til next season (whenever the hell THAT'S gonna be)
:rolleyes:
it was really weird seeing tony & carmela together again and when christopher was talking about her leaving him and all that i was getting a very eerie feeling, i think she is dead bc she just had a baby in real life.. dont think she will have time to do any more episodes..:confused:

[OklahomaMama]

oh, i'm sure she's croaked
she's gonna be in that new NBC show "Joey"

JOEY 8/7pm Thursdays
Emmy nominee Matt LeBlanc reprises his Friends role as charming Joey Tribbiani in this comedy spin-off that continues the beloved Friends tradition. Joey, an aspiring actor, is off to Los Angeles to pursue his dream and begin a new chapter in his life. In this new town he’s sure to face new challenges, both professional and personal. After reuniting with his sister, Gina, Joey moves in with his 20-year-old genius nephew, Michael, who is literally a rocket scientist. What Joey lacks in book smarts, however, he makes up for with people smarts, making him the best new friend his nephew could ask for. Cast: Matt LeBlanc, Drea deMatteo, Paulo Costanzo, Ashley Scott, Jennifer Coolidge.

i think it's truly gonna suck though... the premise seems ludicrous and what made the joey character work was his chemistry with the others on Friends. we'll see...

[GHB#13]

Here's my take on the season finale. I liked it. As a season finale I think ultimately it sucked, but I still liked the episode by itself. Season finales can only be as good as the season itself. It culminates all the small stories that we've watched over the last however many weeks the season lasts. So in that degree, I feel it was the best they could do. The season sucked therefore the finale could only be what it was, because the finale has to conclude this section of the story. I liked that it seems like Anthony might be getting in on the business. Did anyone else catch some of those hints (Dr. Melfi's comments, the Party AJ threw, then Tony & Carmela's so-so reaction to it.), I figure better late than never. The Chris-Adriana thing didn't hurt my feelings that much. I mean what he said was true. They caught her, not him. I think they resolved the New York thing too easily though. My source was right about the story, so I already knew about the Feds coming and Tony B getting killed. Although my source made it seem like it would be much more dramatic. The thing I really hate is that they kinda left us on a weird note. This is the first time I'm not really interested in seeing what happens to them next season. I mean I'll be the first in line for the final season, but I always thought about these characters while the show was on haitus and I don't think that will happen this time. I mean everything is kinda peachy for everybody at this point. When we come back a year will have passed and it seemed like a lot was going on. Last season, the fight between Tony & Carmella kept you thirsting for more. This could've very well been the last episode and I don't think many people would have minded much. Oh, I almost forgot the conversations between Tony & Silvio. Those were the best. I hope they have more of that in the last season. I think Gandofini & Van Zandt have a very good chemistry that has never really been tapped into much. I also didn't like how Tony just kinda blew everyone off. What did ya'll think about the Paulie thing with the painting. I think he overreacted and should have shown the guy a little more respect. i really don't like Paulie but felt bad for him. Here's this guy he admires just stomping all over the little he has. It was kinda heart wrenching, the whole dialouge about how Tony doesn't come over anymore. Made you think about how many of his other guys feel that way. When you think about it, the only guys that ever come to his house are Silvio and Chris. Sucks that Johnny Sack is gone. I wonder if the Feds got Phil Leotardo too? They were the only real gangsters left on the show (in my opinion). The Soprano family ain't what it used to be. If he was gonna let Tony B stay alive that long he shoulda just took out Leotardo a while ago. Anyway, that's what I think of last nights episode. I probably won't buy this season on DVD anytime soon. But hey, its still the Sopranos and the show still rocks!

Just my $.02.

Peace,
. . : : G a r y : : . .

[OklahomaMama]

thanks again, gary for the insight last week. you don't know how hard it was to keep my mouth shut when those feds started coming over the hill :p my husband was freaking out saying "holy shit, who is that? don't tell me they're gonna whack tony and johnny" *evil cackle*
yes, i too noticed the way AJ was handling himself.... chip off the old block??
re: tony and silvio.... i did say to my husband "wow, i think that's the most he's EVER said, period".... very insightful. i always thought his character was underutilized.
and i kinda thought the scene with paulie & the horse picture was touching. all tony saw was the painful reminder of the horse that died (and even deeper, how he whacked ralphie). i thought it was sad that he didn't recognize that it was paulie's way of paying tribute to tony, that he saw him as "his" general and leader. i wonder if that will play into next season? paulie wears his heart on his sleeve and gets his feelings hurt very easily. remember how he tried to suck up to johnny sack when he was in jail in youngstown and almost turned against tony just because christopher got bumped up?
i'm glad that johnny sack is gone.... he's just a little too squirrelly for my liking. and leotardo should have been made to disappear after he beat the shit out of that driver kid... totally unneccessary IMO.
gary, you didn't bring up uncle junior... poor bastard is really slipping now. i think tony finally realized it (or admitted it to himself) last night. :(

[GHB#13]

Yeah! it sucked because I tried to tell my lady what was going to happen all weekend, but she didn't want any part of it. So when she saw the guys coming up she said something like that too, and i was just like "You didn't want to know!". Yeah, I think its kinda weird that Silvio has never played a bigger part. In most Mafia movies/shows/stories the consigliere(sp?) is the right hand man to the boss. Tony and Silvio have always seemed more like old college pals at best. I understand that they are supposed to be candid with each other, but I think Tony was being a prick to him in a time that he needed him most and prbably should've been listening to him. We know now that Tony was ultimately right in wanting to save his cousin, or at least it could've been possible to save him. But the situation should've never got to this point, no matter who killed him. He should've been gone a long time ago. The Paulie thing was just depressing. Once again, I've never been a big fan of Paulie, but you gotta feel sorry for anyone who gets disrespected by someone they adore like, for no apparent reason as well. What is there to say about Uncle Junior. I thought we would have his funneral in the Season Finale since there's not much to do with his character anymore. Did anyone else find the ending a little comical? When Carmela opens the door, it sound like a sitcom. "Where have you been? What happened to you?" in a Leave It To Beaver type voice. One more thing I forgot to mention in my last post. I think next season they're setting us up for a lot of resentment from Tony's crew and ultimately an assassination or something. Maybe Tony will just step down. But it seemed like his guys didn't really have his back anymore. Chris says he back on his side, but we've all seen how easily he flip-flops. The dinner scen was a crucial part to that, because if you notice he said he had to leave early, but he really just went home. And when Carmela asked him about it he just kinda shrugged it off and said he left early. Sounds like his hear isn't in it anymore. Sounds like he's tired of this shit. ...And what better time than with only 10 episodes to go!?!

Peace,
. . : : G a r y : : . .

[saygoodbye12]

How long do we have to wait for the next season? A year and a half?
They aren't going to start shooting until April 2005. I'll have to rewatch the whole season by then so I remember what happened.

[TwoStepFF]

Season 5:
-Followed Season 4 very much with the drama, cut out the swearing, some of the gore and nudity and you got yoruself a CBS drama.

-Episode 11 I think the one before the season finale where A gets killed ranks as one of the best episodes ever, behind Season 2 finale and a few others

-It was more of the Soprano family drama than the mafia family HBO drama, they did this in Season 4 and continued into Season 5.

-I believe this is a cause of Chase getting away from the projects, I dont think he directed or wrote any of the scripts this season (or did he?)

-Steve B should of died at least in episode 7 or 8 to get it more exciting and provoke the audience a little

-Jamie-Lynn=WOW

-I also think the lack of Dr. Melfi towards the end of the season was way out of the soprano central plot..

-Season 5 was much like Season 4 with one Big Hit and one really good episode (Ralph's killing) and I thought I would be looking foward to a Soprano Crew vs Johnny Sack crew war in season 6 but thats out of the picture, something will happen with lil' carmine and tony next season..2 years though
thats just some of what I think

What was everyones favorite season and episode?
Season 2 Season finale of Season 2...that episode was so well scripted and the best by far in my opinion.

[timmyt23]

We have awhile to go.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5498556/

[OklahomaMama]

We have awhile to go.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5498556/oh, for crying out loud! :BANG

[timmyt23]

oh, for crying out loud! :BANG
I know.

[OklahomaMama]

wow... 2006...
nick may have his BS by then

i could possibly be a freaking GRANDMOTHER by that time (unless nick follows my sage advice and keeps it in his pants)

that just seems so far away :(

[Talula62]

2006????? :violent I thought that was just a bad rumor when I read it many weeks ago. :twak So mad right now.

[TwoStepFF]

2006????? :violent I thought that was just a bad rumor when I read it many weeks ago. :twak So mad right now.
thats how long season 5 took, so pretty obvious

[Talula62]

thats how long season 5 took, so pretty obvious

Maybe, but that doesn't necessarily make it any less disappointing. The wait for season 4 was like a year and two months or something and this will be at least 6 months longer, assuming a start in January. 6 months may be no biggie, but this is happening with every show I watch now that hasn't gone off the air, so kinda sucks. Oh well, though.

[gloco]

2006? WTF...bastards!

[asmjm39]

holy crap thats a long time

[timmyt23]

Yeah, it's a really long time. What the hell has David Chase been doing up until now?

[dougseh142]

2006??? :mad: :( :eek: :confused: :ugh: :BANG


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[Talula62]

Congrats to Michael and Drea on their Emmys. Michael's was long overdue and Drea deserved it this year!!

The ceremony isn't over where I am, but I guess the show finally got their first Emmy win. Can't wait for 2006!!!

[NavyBoy41]

Yeah. it was the first time i believe that best supporting actor and actress were split up into separate categories besides all lumping them into best supporting actor/actress for miniseries, comedy, and drama.....


at least i think that's right..
in any regard, "The Sopranos" is a damn kick ass show... I can't wait for Season 5 to come out on DVD!

:monkey

[Talula62]

Yeah. it was the first time i believe that best supporting actor and actress were split up into separate categories besides all lumping them into best supporting actor/actress for miniseries, comedy, and drama.....


at least i think that's right..
in any regard, "The Sopranos" is a damn kick ass show... I can't wait for Season 5 to come out on DVD!

:monkey

Nah, they always split them up - it's the Golden Globes that don't. It's really annoying. To me. For some silly reason.

[TwoStepFF]

ahh sopranos :thumbsup :thumbsup

[TwoStepFF]

Season 5 comes out on DVD on June 7

[bdfresh62]

Anyone know when the new season will be on HBO?

[TwoStepFF]

Anyone know when the new season will be on HBO?
sometime in early 2006

[System]

Anyone know when the new season will be on HBO?


Jan 1st, 2050

[flyer3468]

Season 5 DVD set for 6/7

Here's link to coverart
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covers4/sopranoss5dvd.jpg

[OklahomaMama]

A&E got the rights to the Sopranos....
can't see it without all the colorful language :rolleyes

[TwoStepFF]

Season 5 DVD set for 6/7

Here's link to coverart
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covers4/sopranoss5dvd.jpg
thank you!

[dm40band]

wow i thought this thread was dead... cant wait until 2006 for this to come back out

[Talula62]

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,16710,00.html?tnews

Here's some Eonline people interviewing Chase. I think they throw some crap in there that sounds like spoilers but it really is just E! trying to be "clever" like always. Apparently HBO and the cast are pressuring Chase for a Season 7 and E! reports that he'll be leaving the door open. Season 6 is also now 13 eps like all other seasons, not 10 as earlier reported.

:thumbsup

[flyer3468]

I hope they don't leave it open. I wish they would end it on a good note. The last two season made me lose most respect for this show because they ignored the original storyline to drag it out to get more shows. They spent every episode on character development with nothing interesting added to the story. The last season should be good because there are so many questions that will answered and if not all, but most episodes will be extremely plot oriented.

If they drag it out for an extra season, there will be alot more bad episodes to come.

[Talula62]

I hope they don't leave it open. I wish they would end it on a good note. The last two season made me lose most respect for this show because they ignored the original storyline to drag it out to get more shows. They spent every episode on character development with nothing interesting added to the story. The last season should be good because there are so many questions that will answered and if not all, but most episodes will be extremely plot oriented.

If they drag it out for an extra season, there will be alot more bad episodes to come.

Yeah, I'm not sure there needs to be a Season 7 either. But I'm exicted there are now 13 eps!! I really liked Season 5 though - you didn't think it advanced the storyline? With Johnny Sack and that crew getting busted? They wrapped up the Adrianna/FBI story too. The Tony Blundetto thing seemed kinda tangential maybe.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm really curious about where you (and others) would like to see the story go. :)

[flyer3468]

It did, but the continuing storyline from Season 3 was just ignored in 4 and the started up a new story in 5 when I was waiting to find out how the original plot from 3 was supposed to end.

[Talula62]

I watched Season 3 like 6 months ago, but I can't remember what wasn't really resolved. Besides the Russian. :lol

[TwoStepFF]

I watched Season 3 like 6 months ago, but I can't remember what wasn't really resolved. Besides the Russian. :lol
that episode was a classic

[dmb1spe]

That was a great find because I didn't even know 5 was out yet on DVD. Looks like I'll be heading to Best Buy to pick up Rescue Me 1 and Sopranos 5. And possibly the Wire 1 and 2.

[Lcsulla]

I watched Season 3 like 6 months ago, but I can't remember what wasn't really resolved. Besides the Russian. :lol

Loved that episode. Chris's crack about thinking '13 days' was bullshit was hysterical!

they still haven't resolved Dr. Melfy's rape either.

guess I have to go grab season 5 DVD's! They've begun filming season six recently too! Maybe we'll get them in say two years at their snail pace! :)

[brydro]

Read in the NY Daily News the other day that They might do 2 more seasons, with only 6 episodes per season, and a 2 month wait in between, instead of a long break. But still, this break has been way too long.

[Talula62]

They'll never resolve her rape. And oddly enough, I think I like it that way.

[ExistenceNow]

Loved that episode. Chris's crack about thinking '13 days' was bullshit was hysterical!

they still haven't resolved Dr. Melfy's rape either.

guess I have to go grab season 5 DVD's! They've begun filming season six recently too! Maybe we'll get them in say two years at their snail pace! :)

they did resolve her rape.... when she realized that she could sick tony on that douche bag, she got control of the situation, and resolved it in her own mind...
or did you mean resolve it for us by killing the guy?

[Talula62]

they did resolve her rape.... when she realized that she could sick tony on that douche bag, she got control of the situation, and resolved it in her own mind...
or did you mean resolve it for us by killing the guy?

:thumbsup You're so right.

[ExistenceNow]

:thumbsup You're so right.

why thank you... personally, i was really hoping that she would have tony fuck that guy up, but i knew it wasn't going to happen...

[Lcsulla]

personally, i was really