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¡Nick! 02-06-2011 06:00 AM

Extra Tracks?
 
I was just looking through "Tour Central" and I came across the Big Whiskey Sessions.

What happened to all of these songs:
Sweet Up and Down
Loving Wings
Sister
Shotgun
The Idea of You
Break For It
Blackjack

There's gotta be some recordings somewhere? I wanna hear how these turned out in the studio soo bad. Why the heck wouldn't they put them on a bonus CD or something?

Robio 02-06-2011 08:53 AM

Re: Extra Tracks?
 
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Originally Posted by ¡Nick! (Post 12260536)
I was just looking through "Tour Central" and I came across the Big Whiskey Sessions.

What happened to all of these songs:
Sweet Up and Down
Loving Wings
Sister
Shotgun
The Idea of You
Break For It
Blackjack

There's gotta be some recordings somewhere? I wanna hear how these turned out in the studio soo bad. Why the heck wouldn't they put them on a bonus CD or something?

I agree. Would absolutely love to have these. With these, along with Little Red Bird, they would have had enough extra tracks for a double album.

¡Nick! 02-06-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Robio (Post 12260689)
I agree. Would absolutely love to have these. With these, along with Little Red Bird, they would have had enough extra tracks for a double album.

Ik! And it would be a BOMB album too. I think Cavallo said that there were "extra tracks" to be released on an EP after the album, but this was a LONG time ago and probably referred to the Deluxe Album edition w/ Write a Song, etc.

I reallllly hope they release these songs tho.

spoot388 02-06-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robio (Post 12260689)
I agree. Would absolutely love to have these. With these, along with Little Red Bird, they would have had enough extra tracks for a double album.


just because they could have made a double album doesn't mean it would have been good. Sister, Blackjack, and Break For It would not have been any good. Sister is just a bland song, and the other two are nowhere near finished enough to be released. also, Shotgun would have been disappointing as well because of how the band has acted in the studio recently.

look at how Cornbread came out. it was basically a live version played in the studio. there was no effort put in to making it a "finished" song. it was just this is what the song is. Dave didn't even bother finishing to write the lyrics. Shotgun would have been the wail-fest it has been the last couple years because Dave wouldn't have bothered to go back and finish lyrics for it like it had in 2006.

who knows how SUAD would have come out. probably not how anybody would want a studio version. and IOY would have been the lesser, new version rather than the really good original version from 2006. once again, Dave wouldn't have bothered to write lyrics for either of those. if its a choice between releasing songs just to say they are released or not having them in hopes of one day they get the attention they deserve, i'd rather wait.

Robio 02-06-2011 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spoot388 (Post 12262281)
just because they could have made a double album doesn't mean it would have been good. Sister, Blackjack, and Break For It would not have been any good. Sister is just a bland song, and the other two are nowhere near finished enough to be released. also, Shotgun would have been disappointing as well because of how the band has acted in the studio recently.

look at how Cornbread came out. it was basically a live version played in the studio. there was no effort put in to making it a "finished" song. it was just this is what the song is. Dave didn't even bother finishing to write the lyrics. Shotgun would have been the wail-fest it has been the last couple years because Dave wouldn't have bothered to go back and finish lyrics for it like it had in 2006.

who knows how SUAD would have come out. probably not how anybody would want a studio version. and IOY would have been the lesser, new version rather than the really good original version from 2006. once again, Dave wouldn't have bothered to write lyrics for either of those. if its a choice between releasing songs just to say they are released or not having them in hopes of one day they get the attention they deserve, i'd rather wait.

I agree with most of this. I should have clarified that having finished and polished versions of these songs would be great. I don't think the Cornbread studio version even was close to representing what the live version is - no Tim, no energy, and the live version even seems to have more polished lyrics than Dave's hiccups on the studio cut.

jtrow987 02-16-2011 12:29 PM

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Sugarwill

¡Nick! 02-16-2011 03:33 PM

Re: Extra Tracks?
 
Looking back on it, Granny would have made a hell of a single for UTTAD too.

ji/\/\ithing 02-16-2011 04:35 PM

Re: Extra Tracks?
 
i would like to see Break For It released at some point, when it's properly finished. i do dig that tune though.

CGTP13 02-16-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ji/\/\ithing (Post 12295005)
i would like to see Break For It released at some point, when it's properly finished. i do dig that tune though.

:thumbsup Really like that one, especially the music.

dmbfan101 02-20-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ¡Nick! (Post 12294844)
Looking back on it, Granny would have made a hell of a single for UTTAD too.

It was supposed to be... at least the band thought it would be. They even sold shirts that had "LOVE" on the front and "BABY" on the back. And yet a studio recording isn't even on the Ardent Studios Demo...

warehouseguy 02-22-2011 05:42 PM

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I still think a Live Not Live album would be a lot of fun...

1 A Dream So Real ->
2 Crazy Easy
3 Sweet Up And Down
4 The Idea Of You
5 Sugar Will
6 Eh Hee
7 JTR
8 Break For It
9 Black Jack
10 Good Good Time
11 Shotgun ->
12 Loving Wings

Bonus Disc

1 Grace Is Gone Prelude
2 Blue Water
3 #40
4 Jackpot
5 Sister

¡Nick! 02-22-2011 05:52 PM

Re: Extra Tracks?
 
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Originally Posted by warehouseguy (Post 12315272)
I still think a Live Not Live album would be a lot of fun...

1 A Dream So Real ->
2 Crazy Easy
3 Sweet Up And Down
4 The Idea Of You
5 Sugar Will
6 Eh Hee
7 JTR
8 Break For It
9 Black Jack
10 Good Good Time
11 Shotgun ->
12 Loving Wings

Bonus Disc

1 Grace Is Gone Prelude
2 Blue Water
3 #40
4 Jackpot
5 Sister


Yeah dude basically a live performance, but in a studio and recorded w/ the usual studio equipment. Would be pretty epic, though the band would have to be able to channel a TON of energy into it.


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