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Old 11-29-2011, 04:53 PM   #1
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*Pittsburgh/Burgettstown 2012*

Anyone hear of any possible dates for the summer yet... I heard they have contacted First Niagra Pavillion (Starlake) so hopefully we don't have to deal with PNC again. That was hell.
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:08 PM   #2
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I was down in the outfield so PNC wasn't that bad for me. I had friends in the stands, and they weren't feelin' it. The crowd had a lot more to do with the show than the venue, but then again, maybe they aren't mutually exclusive.

My first DMB shows were at the pavilion, and I really hope they go back.

I too heard they were in contact with the pavilion, but maybe it's the same unconfirmed rumor.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:25 AM   #3
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I was down in the outfield so PNC wasn't that bad for me. I had friends in the stands, and they weren't feelin' it. The crowd had a lot more to do with the show than the venue, but then again, maybe they aren't mutually exclusive.

My first DMB shows were at the pavilion, and I really hope they go back.

I too heard they were in contact with the pavilion, but maybe it's the same unconfirmed rumor.
This is why shows at starlake have been bad the past few years.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:49 AM   #4
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Niagara is such a dump.
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Never been to Star Lake and probably never will, but I was in Pittsburgh last summer and couldn't believe how far away from the city this venue actually is! I can eventually see most bands playing the brand new sports arena in Pittsburgh and this place eventually closing down.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:48 PM   #6
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Can't wait to be back at star lake. Two year break has been too long.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:39 PM   #7
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This is why shows at starlake have been bad the past few years.
I don't know why I just thought of this, but N2 in 09, there were a group of kids in their early teens sitting in the row in front of me. One girl was breaking up with her boyfriend over text messages. One of the other guys (boys) started to catch on and creep on this girl. He wanted nothing more than to dance with this girl during slow songs. He was pretty much ignored so he told her that during the texting she missed crash (which was played N1). She was pissed about missing her favorite song.

So maybe you're on to something.

Its the location of my first Dave shows so thats why i want to go back this summer.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:40 PM   #8
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been to many amphitheaters around the country and it's not that bad at all. hell i'd put it in the top tier of amphitheaters.


i really hope they're back to two nights too.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:43 PM   #9
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:43 PM   #10
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been to many amphitheaters around the country and it's not that bad at all. hell i'd put it in the top tier of amphitheaters.


i really hope they're back to two nights too.
It's okay, but it's not in the top tier at all.
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I really hope that they play here more in the middle of the tour, I would love to have my 100th show here.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:01 PM   #12
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Blossom is meh. I personally like star lake. Tailgates are good, I've never had any problems getting out. Even up on the top of the hill, you get a pretty good view of the stage and can see what's going on.

I went to scranton in '09 too, and was one of the first cars in (and last cars out). The pavilion itself was pretty cool. Atmosphere and crowd interest was pretty high, too. I wouldn't have cared for lawn seats at that place for any show.

I got to see the DMB bus roll through the parking lot with Carter waving out the front window.

It's a bitch to get out of though. It took nearly 2 hours to get out of the parking lot. Spent 45 minutes without even moving.

Star lake at a mid-tour break like it was in 09 before their Europe leg would be awesome again.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:30 AM   #13
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I have it on very good authority that it's confirmed that DMB reserved 2 nights at First Niagara. I don't know if they'll play 2 nights, but 2 days are blocked off.
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:18 PM   #14
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I really hope it's two nights here. And whoever said Starlake sucks is an idiot. Starlake is very nice in my opinion
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:53 AM   #15
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Gotta be back at starlake this summer...PNC just isn't the same and I missed 09 because of a stupid vacation that had already been planned...two nights at starlake is like therapy for me...go camping and just chill out for a long weekend
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It's a bitch to get out of though. It took nearly 2 hours to get out of the parking lot. Spent 45 minutes without even moving.
This is why camp chairs, post-show tailgate grilling, and beer were invented.
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:33 PM   #18
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Gotta be back at starlake this summer...PNC just isn't the same and I missed 09 because of a stupid vacation that had already been planned...two nights at starlake is like therapy for me...go camping and just chill out for a long weekend
Hello! Agreed. It has been way, way too long!

All I want this tour season is a DMB for two nights at Starlake, and camping with friends at Raccoon Creek.

I can take or leave anything else this year.

Phooey on all the Starlake naysayers. It is IMO a fabulous venue, with terrific sound quality. DMB has put on some A-mazing concerts there over the past years (see 6-20-09 http://antsmarching.org/tour/ViewShow.php?ShowID=4037 if you doubt)
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:57 PM   #19
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I guess I'm one of the few that prefer PNC over Starlake. Not big on camping and it's nice to be able to leave the show and just walk to the bars or back to the hotel. Just a lot more convenient, imo.
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Old 01-17-2012, 03:11 PM   #20
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if you are not really quck getting out of the show, you might as well set the tailgate back up and finish all the food and drink instead of sitting in a dead stop
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:44 AM   #21
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if you are not really quck getting out of the show, you might as well set the tailgate back up and finish all the food and drink instead of sitting in a dead stop
Depending on our post-Post Gazette ( or Post Star First Gazette Lake Niagara Pavillion) show plans, if we need to head towards 376, we almost always tailgate again. If we head the opposite direction, its usually pretty quick getting out of there.

Though in our dead-stop situation, we were in unfamiliar territory (Scranton). It was our first destination show, so we were a bit under-prepared.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:44 AM   #22
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I have it on very good authority that it's confirmed that DMB reserved 2 nights at First Niagara. I don't know if they'll play 2 nights, but 2 days are blocked off.
I just figured out that Post-Gazette Pavilion is now First Niagara Pavilion.

Similar name change in Buffalo.

HSBC Arena -> First Niagara Center

Anyways, I love the venue and nearby camping. I hope they go back there.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:45 AM   #23
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Gotta be back at starlake this summer...PNC just isn't the same and I missed 09 because of a stupid vacation that had already been planned...two nights at starlake is like therapy for me...go camping and just chill out for a long weekend
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Blossom is meh. I personally like star lake. Tailgates are good, I've never had any problems getting out. Even up on the top of the hill, you get a pretty good view of the stage and can see what's going on.

I went to scranton in '09 too, and was one of the first cars in (and last cars out). The pavilion itself was pretty cool. Atmosphere and crowd interest was pretty high, too. I wouldn't have cared for lawn seats at that place for any show.

I got to see the DMB bus roll through the parking lot with Carter waving out the front window.

It's a bitch to get out of though. It took nearly 2 hours to get out of the parking lot. Spent 45 minutes without even moving.

Star lake at a mid-tour break like it was in 09 before their Europe leg would be awesome again.
You just need to know where to park.
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I cant wait!!! Parking is usually pretty easy I always park in the lot on the left as soon as you go into the venue. its so easy to shoot right out and head to the highway or the campground! Still waiting for the dates.... tick...tock...tick...tock...
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I just figured out that Post-Gazette Pavilion is now First Niagara Pavilion.

Similar name change in Buffalo.

HSBC Arena -> First Niagara Center

Anyways, I love the venue and nearby camping. I hope they go back there.
Yeah. Ask any Pittsburgher and we still call it Starlake even though it hasn't been called that for, what, 15 years or something. Geesh. I just made myself feel old
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Still waiting for the dates.... tick...tock...tick...tock...
A friend gave me some info that starlake and dmb mgmts are working on a friday/saturday 2 night weekend for early or mid july. Its not set, but those were the 'working' dates both parties were aiming for.

Also included that dmb mgmt was trying to release tour dates late feb, with tickets on sale mid/late march. Not earth shattering, but nice to know.
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This is why shows at starlake have been bad the past few years.
The crowd may be hit or miss sometimes but you can't discount some solid sets over the years.

Dave Matthews Band
June 26, 2003
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Crush
When the World Ends
Satellite
You Never Know
Too Much
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Pay for What You Get
Bartender
Where Are You Going
The Last Stop
Jimi Thing
Digging a Ditch
So Much to Say
Anyone Seen the Bridge
Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel
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Typical Situation
Stay (Wasting Time)

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Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA


Good Good Time [tease]
The Best of What's Around
Granny
Crush
Hello Again
The Space Between
Warehouse
Sugar Will
When the World Ends
One Sweet World
Help Myself
Joyride
Where Are You Going
Rhyme & Reason
Crazy Easy
So Much to Say
Anyone Seen the Bridge
Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel
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Everyday
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Dave Matthews Band
June 27, 2004
Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA


What Would You Say
The Song That Jane Likes
Too Much
Recently
Sugar Will
If I Had It All
Don't Drink the Water
Hello Again
Drive In Drive Out
Grace Is Gone
Joyride
Good Good Time
Fool to Think
Jimi Thing
Crazy Easy
Two Step
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Dancing Nancies
Stay (Wasting Time)

Dave Matthews Band
June 9, 2006
Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA


The Best of What's Around
Proudest Monkey
Satellite
Hunger for the Great Light
Big Eyed Fish
Grey Street
Louisiana Bayou
What Would You Say
Grace Is Gone
Kill the King
The Dreaming Tree
The Idea of You
Jimi Thing
So Much to Say
Anyone Seen the Bridge
Too Much
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Sister
Everyday
Ants Marching

Dave Matthews Band
June 10, 2006
Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA


One Sweet World
Pig
Crash Into Me
JTR
Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel
Smooth Rider
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Improv Jam
Where Are You Going
So Right
Shotgun
The Idea of You
Stay (Wasting Time)
Digging a Ditch
Tripping Billies
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Sister
American Baby Intro
Two Step

Dave Matthews Band
August 10, 2007
Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA


Seek Up
You Might Die Trying
Hunger for the Great Light
#27
Don't Drink the Water
Corn Bread
The Idea of You
Anyone Seen the Bridge
Too Much
Sister
Grey Street
Louisiana Bayou
Shotgun
Sweet Up and Down
Crush
Stay (Wasting Time)
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Some Devil
American Baby Intro
Stefan solo
All Along the Watchtower

Dave Matthews Band
June 19, 2009
Post-Gazette Pavilion, Burgettstown, PA


Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel
Granny
Stay or Leave
Shake Me Like a Monkey
Spaceman
Corn Bread
Seven
#41
Crash Into Me
Funny the Way It Is
Lying in the Hands of God
So Much to Say
Anyone Seen the Bridge
Too Much [fake]
Tripping Billies
Why I Am
Jimi Thing
Alligator Pie
You & Me
Grey Street
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Sister
Stefan solo
All Along the Watchtower

Dave Matthews Band
June 20, 2009
Post-Gazette Pavilion, Burgettstown, PA


Bartender
Squirm
Pig
Dive In
Burning Down the House
The Stone
Anyone Seen the Bridge
Too Much [fake]
Ants Marching
#40 [partial]
The Dreaming Tree
Why I Am
Funny the Way It Is
Typical Situation
Shake Me Like a Monkey
Crush
The Song That Jane Likes
You & Me
Two Step
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Rye Whiskey
Time Bomb
Halloween
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I hate to self-quote myself, but here you go.

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A friend gave me some info that starlake and dmb mgmts are working on a friday/saturday 2 night weekend for early or mid july. Its not set, but those were the 'working' dates both parties were aiming for.

Also included that dmb mgmt was trying to release tour dates late feb, with tickets on sale mid/late march. Not earth shattering, but nice to know.
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