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Old 06-07-2009, 04:54 PM   #1
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I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

Without having to fear that I will look foolish a year or three from now like when I said Dreamgirl might be the next Crush or EWU the next Ants ()

Seriously, I couldn't imagine Dave writing anything this lush and gorgeous at this point for this album. I don't think most of the album is Big 3 good, but this particular track definitely knocks me off my legs.

Nice job Dave.
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Old 06-07-2009, 04:56 PM   #2
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

i like it as well.
1.why i am
2. baby blue
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:00 PM   #3
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

i am also a fan of this song, big fan. not sure why so many here have decided to dump on it with you and me. maybe it's the abrupt change of pace from the way the rest of the album is flowing. i loved the april sessions version, stripped down, but am happy they added the orchestra filling it up more.
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

Yes I agree. It's a beautiful song. It's got a timeless quality about it imo and was one of the first tracks on the album that really got my attention.
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:02 PM   #5
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Yes I agree. It's a beautiful song. It's got a timeless quality about it imo and was one of the first tracks on the album that really got my attention.
It stuck out for me my first time through. I thought that might change but it hasn't. The song is just incredibly good. Might be my favorite DMB song since 2000, seriously.
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

I enjoy the song, too. I'm not sure how it'll translate into the live setting.
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:07 PM   #7
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I enjoy the song, too. I'm not sure how it'll translate into the live setting.
It'd probably translate better if they decide to tour with a full string orchestra...

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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

Baby Blue is amazing. I am stunned to see that some people consider it the worst on the album and actually think Sister is better. I see myself considering this, Squirm, and LITHOG "Big 3 (+tLWS) good" after the album sinks in.
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:11 PM   #10
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Baby Blue is amazing. I am stunned to see that some people consider it the worst on the album and actually think Sister is better. I see myself considering this, Squirm, and LITHOG "Big 3 (+tLWS) good" after the album sinks in.
Nothing in DMBc stuns me anymore.

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It'd probably translate better if they decide to tour with a full string orchestra...

I wouldn't complain about that. Not sure how you can fit a full string orchestra into Corn Bread and Where Are You Going, though.
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

nice song but not even close. you confuse me sometimes Lewis

LITHOG and Spaceman sure

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Nothing in DMBc stuns me anymore.

I agree with you that Baby Blue is great, but I assure you more stunning things are routinely said and defended in DMBc.
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

i cant, its my least favorite song on the album by far, id prefer if they kept sister and added strings to that
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:42 PM   #15
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

i sorta hope this song is played so it can signal the end of sister.

i love the add onto to the sister riff. i dig this song alot. its not my favorite on the album but its top 5.
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I love this song. I also love the placement of it on the album.
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i cant, its my least favorite song on the album by far, id prefer if they kept sister and added strings to that
I take back what I said a few posts ago, this is pretty stunning. Baby Blue is light years better than sister, especially now having great lyrics. I think Baby Blue is a prefect Leroi tribute song.
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Without having to fear that I will look foolish a year or three from now like when I said Dreamgirl might be the next Crush or EWU the next Ants ()

Seriously, I couldn't imagine Dave writing anything this lush and gorgeous at this point for this album. I don't think most of the album is Big 3 good, but this particular track definitely knocks me off my legs.

Nice job Dave.
I see what you did there.
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definitely agree with this....definitely my #1 from the new record.
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Without having to fear that I will look foolish a year or three from now like when I said Dreamgirl might be the next Crush or EWU the next Ants ()

Seriously, I couldn't imagine Dave writing anything this lush and gorgeous at this point for this album. I don't think most of the album is Big 3 good, but this particular track definitely knocks me off my legs.

Nice job Dave.
Agree completely. Just a very beautiful song.


I am also curious, what are your thoughts on Squirm? Been reading some of your review threads/thoughts and haven't seen much mention of it. I think this song is also Big 3 caliber, and even BTCS sounding, musically and lyrically.
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

Baby Blue is definitely a very well-written song. The riff is great, and the lyrics are great. It's not one of my top songs on the album, but it's a great song.

I think that saying it's the best song of the last 9 years is a little excessive, but hey, it's your opinion. Personally, I could find a nice list of songs from the last 9 years I'd rather listen to than BB, but that doesn't make it any less a good song.
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Agree completely. Just a very beautiful song.


I am also curious, what are your thoughts on Squirm? Been reading some of your review threads/thoughts and haven't seen much mention of it. I think this song is also Big 3 caliber, and even BTCS sounding, musically and lyrically.
I know it wasn't my opinion you asked for, but:

Squirm = brilliantly executed song

The music & lyrics are top-notch. Couldn't have asked for more with this song.
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Everytime I hear this song and Roi pops into my head, I almost lose it.
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Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

this song is a.) ripped off of sister, b.) all over the place, c.) musically boring, d.) forced lyrically e.)vocally weak, f.) ripped off of sister.

sounds like a cat stevens turd with those strings
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funny the way it is >>>>>>> baby blue > spaceman
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this song is a.) ripped off of sister, b.) all over the place, c.) musically boring, d.) forced lyrically e.)vocally weak, f.) ripped off of sister.

sounds like a cat stevens turd with those strings
It didn't rip off sister; it took a weak song and made it beautiful. And I couldn't disagree more on forced lyrically. This song is a beautiful tribute to Leroi and really shows the emotion of DMB losing their friend and band mate.
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funny the way it is >>>>>>> baby blue > spaceman
Wrong on so many levels.
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funny the way it is >>>>>>> baby blue > spaceman
Baby Blue >>>> Spaceman >>>>>>> FTWII

I actually like Spaceman, but I have fallen in love with Baby Blue.
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this song is a.) ripped off of sister, b.) all over the place, c.) musically boring, d.) forced lyrically e.)vocally weak, f.) ripped off of sister.

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funny the way it is >>>>>>> baby blue > spaceman
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FTWII >>> Baby Blue > Spaceman
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