How Long Until the DMB Poster Bubble Bursts?

[LookingAtYou]

Not to come off as a downer to anyone here who may have just paid $250 for that must have limited edition DMB poster, but chances are you will not recover that money if you are planning on reselling the poster. If you only want to put it on your bedroom wall and you believe it is worth $250 of your money to have the ability to do that, then by all means this doesn't apply to you. Lets quickly mention a few famous bubbles:

Famous Bubbles:

Dutch Tulip Bulbs in the 1630's
South sea stock in the 1720's
Gold in the 1980's
Tech Stocks in the 1990's
Japan 1960-1980
Baseball Cards 1970's-1995
Real Estate in 2000's
Beanie Babies
Collectible Sneakers 2000-2007

All of these bubbles eventually popped for one reason or another, and I believe the DMB poster craze bubble will too eventually pop. Now before you argue this point with "they're limited posters of a band and will hold value for their historical quality," I urge you to go on ebay right now and search for "beatles poster" and "grateful dead poster" and then get back to me.

Now I know, I know we are all die-hards here; but chances are if those bands posters from the time they were touring are selling for $6.00 each, chances are DMB's will too 20 years from now.

Like I said before, if you paid $100+ for a DMB poster because it was worth that much to you, more power to you; but if you paid that price only because you believed it would be a profitable long-term investment I suggest selling the poster now.

[efraser77]

Don't know, but the sooner it does, the sooner I can get my Jack of Spades.

[cpxc.]

as soon as i save 700 plus for a dave budich

[vegeevore]

as soon as i find a berkeley saxophone in my neighborhood dumster

[kfpoling]

Originally Posted by efraser77

Don't know, but the sooner it does, the sooner I can get my Jack of Spades.

and the sooner I can afford a 10

[sugarwill1992]

I bought one from each show I went to; to me they're mementos of an awesome night. People buying to resell tarnish the idea, imho. I find it silly to spend money on a keepsake and then sell it to someone at a higher price when you've just cheated someone else out of a limited edition reminder of an awesome night.

[Roose13]

You forgot Pokemon cards

[cpxc.]

pogs, yo-yo's and giga pets

[LookingAtYou]

Originally Posted by Roose13

You forgot Pokemon cards

Originally Posted by cpxc.

pogs, yo-yo's and giga pets

Whooooaaa, take me baccckk take me back....

Should definately have seen the "colored cardboard discs" aka pogs bubble bursting long before I shelled out $30 for that gold slammer!

[Ericdmbfn20]

Originally Posted by Roose13

You forgot Pokemon cards

and Pogs.... anyone else get into those?

[justink]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

Famous Bubbles:

Dutch Tulip Bulbs in the 1630's
South sea stock in the 1720's
Gold in the 1980's
Tech Stocks in the 1990's
Japan 1960-1980
Baseball Cards 1970's-1995
Real Estate in 2000's
Beanie Babies
Collectible Sneakers 2000-2007

All of these bubbles eventually popped for one reason or another, and I believe the DMB poster craze bubble will too eventually pop. Now before you argue this point with "they're limited posters of a band and will hold value for their historical quality," I urge you to go on ebay right now and search for "beatles poster" and "grateful dead poster" and then get back to me.

Now I know, I know we are all die-hards here; but chances are if those bands posters from the time they were touring are selling for $6.00 each, chances are DMB's will too 20 years from now.

Like I said before, if you paid $100+ for a DMB poster because it was worth that much to you, more power to you; but if you paid that price only because you believed it would be a profitable long-term investment I suggest selling the poster now.

Have you seen the price of Gold lately? Real Estate... not really making any more of it either...? Mickey Mantle rookie (Vegas Skull), Hank Aaron rookie (Flower Sax)?

And if you have an ORIGINAL (key word, "original") poster from the Beatles' Ed Sullivan show, can i have it for $6.00? Please?

[kfpoling]

Originally Posted by Roose13

You forgot Pokemon cards

fml

[Bohrman26]

Why are your threads always about "The band owes me stuff I need them to give me free things!" and "The posters you have purchased will no longer be worth anything!"

Can you not just enjoy the music and not worry about the financial aspect of this band? Christ............................................ ................

































ALMIGHTY!

[LookingAtYou]

Originally Posted by Bohrman26

Why are your threads always about "The band owes me stuff I need them to give me free things!" and "The posters you have purchased will no longer be worth anything!"

Can you not just enjoy the music and not worry about the financial aspect of this band? Christ............................................ ................

































ALMIGHTY!

In Boston they would say I am in his "crawlspace"

[sugarwill1992]

...Yeah, but it's an exceedingly negative outlook on the band. It seems impossible to enjoy them if all you're doing is examining how they make money, how fans are interested in making money off of them, etc. Just listen to the music and lyrics...

[Bohrman26]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

In Boston they would say I am in his "crawlspace"

And everywhere else they would say you're a downer. So quit it.

Originally Posted by sugarwill1992

...Yeah, but it's an exceedingly negative outlook on the band. It seems impossible to enjoy them if all you're doing is examining how they make money, how fans are interested in making money off of them, etc. Just listen to the music and lyrics...

This.

[LookingAtYou]

Originally Posted by sugarwill1992

...Yeah, but it's an exceedingly negative outlook on the band. It seems impossible to enjoy them if all you're doing is examining how they make money, how fans are interested in making money off of them, etc. Just listen to the music and lyrics...

I understand where you are coming from, except that the band has nothing to do with overvalued posters; greedy resellers do.

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

I understand where you are coming from, except that the band has nothing to do with overvalued posters; greedy resellers do.

no, stupid buyers are responsible for overpriced posters. if there is no demand, there is no supply. demand controls price. thats just basic economics.

and several of the things you listed are nothing more than public fads. Beanie Babies were a public fad. They burst onto the scene and were insane huge really quickly. Of course they were going to die out.

Baseball cards have a niche following that isn't just the general public that will forever follow. They may not be as popular now as they were 20 years ago, but they are still very valuable, if you have the right stuff. There will always be baseball fans and there will always be people interested in cards. the right cards will ALWAYS be collectible.

DMB posters will ALWAYS be collectible as well. they have nothing to do with the general public. as long as there are DMB fans there will be people wanting the posters. and as their place in music history sets itself, the posters will be valuable in future generations because they are so limited and were for such a big, successful band. if you have ORIGINAL event posters from The Beatles playing somewhere, they are worth a lot more than what you have in your wallet, and probably more than what you have in your bank account.

[Roose13]

Anyone wanna trade a Charizard for a Flower Sax poster?

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by spoot388

no, stupid buyers are responsible for overpriced posters. if there is no demand, there is no supply. demand controls price. thats just basic economics.

and several of the things you listed are nothing more than public fads. Beanie Babies were a public fad. They burst onto the scene and were insane huge really quickly. Of course they were going to die out.

Baseball cards have a niche following that isn't just the general public that will forever follow. They may not be as popular now as they were 20 years ago, but they are still very valuable, if you have the right stuff. There will always be baseball fans and there will always be people interested in cards. the right cards will ALWAYS be collectible.

DMB posters will ALWAYS be collectible as well. they have nothing to do with the general public. as long as there are DMB fans there will be people wanting the posters. and as their place in music history sets itself, the posters will be valuable in future generations because they are so limited and were for such a big, successful band. if you have ORIGINAL event posters from The Beatles playing somewhere, they are worth a lot more than what you have in your wallet, and probably more than what you have in your bank account.

Great argument until you basically compared DMB to the Beatles

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Great argument until you basically compared DMB to the Beatles

i wasn't comparing DMB to The Beatles, he was. he said that if you go on ebay you'll find Beatles posters for 6 bucks. all the mass produced posters are like that, but anything limited like venue promo posters are going to be worth A LOT more than that. they'll likely be worth thousands, and maybe even tens of thousands of dollars. i never said DMB posters will be that valuable. i just said that because they are limited run and DMB is actually going to be remember as one of the biggest acts of our time, they will still be worth more money.

[jwehaeDMB]

collectible sneakers are at a peak, if not still on the rise, right now.

[TempHelpNeeded]

Poo Choo Train's layin' down its tracks
With a [Poo Choo] all the way and back!

Poo Poo Train is my favorite thing,
Spreading Christmas joy as we ride and sing!

Christmastime wouldn't be the same
Without hugs and kisses and a Poo Choo Train.

[SeanMH]

I agree the poster situation is out of hand, but all things work themselves out in the end. I think '08 was the chaotic year for posters and flipping them.

[cpxc.]

halfway through 2008 is when it got crazy.

[jmccully61]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

Not to come off as a downer to anyone here who may have just paid $250 for that must have limited edition DMB poster, but chances are you will not recover that money if you are planning on reselling the poster. If you only want to put it on your bedroom wall and you believe it is worth $250 of your money to have the ability to do that, then by all means this doesn't apply to you. Lets quickly mention a few famous bubbles:

Famous Bubbles:

Dutch Tulip Bulbs in the 1630's
South sea stock in the 1720's
Gold in the 1980's
Tech Stocks in the 1990's
Japan 1960-1980
Baseball Cards 1970's-1995
Real Estate in 2000's
Beanie Babies
Collectible Sneakers 2000-2007

All of these bubbles eventually popped for one reason or another, and I believe the DMB poster craze bubble will too eventually pop. Now before you argue this point with "they're limited posters of a band and will hold value for their historical quality," I urge you to go on ebay right now and search for "beatles poster" and "grateful dead poster" and then get back to me.

Now I know, I know we are all die-hards here; but chances are if those bands posters from the time they were touring are selling for $6.00 each, chances are DMB's will too 20 years from now.

Like I said before, if you paid $100+ for a DMB poster because it was worth that much to you, more power to you; but if you paid that price only because you believed it would be a profitable long-term investment I suggest selling the poster now.

Anyone whose primary purpose when buying a DMB Print as a long term investment will be broke 20 years from now anyway from stupidity. Now I am not saying that Art is bad investment because the very expensive art that is sold through auction houses and galleries are used as a tax rightoff for the rich. However, DMB Prints do not fall under the latter category.

As a longtime member of expressobeans and a collector of DMB Prints (own entire Flower Series, Vegas 2005, Roseland 2005, both 96 Arminski's, 2004 Emek Summer Tour, Bristow 2008, and many other highly sought DMB Prints) DMB Prints are arugably hotter than Emek's (own a lot of sought out Emek's too) right now. The Ace for Vegas is already at $350 (The sale of one for $675 is BS because there were multiple ones on sale for $300 at the same time. Why would someone pay more than double unless they are trying to create an artifical market?), someone has already metioned a Dave Matthews Budich is going for $700. Most prints will immeaditly double in value, and sell for at least $75 the day after the show. Therefore, you can make a very nice short term profit if you want to flip DMB Prints.

The question is more of how long will DMB Prints increase in value as quickly as they are? The recent spike in DMB Prints really reminds me of the spike in Emek's a few years ago. After the surge, which was right around the crash in the stock market, most Emek's only slightly delcined in value, but still worth way more than they were before there became a "market" for them.

The really surpsing variable during this increased demand for DMB Prints is that they have spiked during one if not the worst economy of all time. Also, I have noticed two other variables during the recent spike in demand for DMB Prints. First, the "Professional Flippers" started to flip DMB Prints. Up until last year, the "Professinal Flippers" laughed at the DMB Prints, but really started flipping them during the Flower Series Craze. The Flippers remained throughout this Tour, most likely due to Methane, the company that designs the prints and releases the prints, selliing a small amount on their website. Also, Warehouse sells a small amount on their Website as well. All together around 30 to 50 prints are released between the two, and some how the same people always end up with them. Second, the surge of members on expressobeans that collect DMB Prints. Before last year there were only a handful of people on EB that collected DMB Prints; however, last year the amount of new members on EB who collect DMB Prints has gone through the roof, which has been the main variable for recent increase in value of DMB Prints.

In the end, I dont see the value of DMB Prints slowing down any time soon. If Emek's have declined in value when DMB Prints have sored in value in this economy, then their "market" can survive anything. Again, it just comes down to people who continue to buy them on Ebay or Expressobeans. However, 10 or 20 years from now, who knows what they will be worth. If you are able to guess the value of a stock 20 years from now, then you will be a millonare. If you are able to find the next big thing, then you will be a millonare.

[bannar7]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

Not to come off as a downer to anyone here who may have just paid $250 for that must have limited edition DMB poster, but chances are you will not recover that money if you are planning on reselling the poster. If you only want to put it on your bedroom wall and you believe it is worth $250 of your money to have the ability to do that, then by all means this doesn't apply to you. Lets quickly mention a few famous bubbles:

Famous Bubbles:

Dutch Tulip Bulbs in the 1630's
South sea stock in the 1720's
Gold in the 1980's
Tech Stocks in the 1990's
Japan 1960-1980
Baseball Cards 1970's-1995
Real Estate in 2000's
Beanie Babies
Collectible Sneakers 2000-2007

All of these bubbles eventually popped for one reason or another, and I believe the DMB poster craze bubble will too eventually pop. Now before you argue this point with "they're limited posters of a band and will hold value for their historical quality," I urge you to go on ebay right now and search for "beatles poster" and "grateful dead poster" and then get back to me.

Now I know, I know we are all die-hards here; but chances are if those bands posters from the time they were touring are selling for $6.00 each, chances are DMB's will too 20 years from now.

Like I said before, if you paid $100+ for a DMB poster because it was worth that much to you, more power to you; but if you paid that price only because you believed it would be a profitable long-term investment I suggest selling the poster now.

[matt noga]

you should know which side you are on in this thread by 1 test. If you own a copy of the BTCS &/or BWATGGK VINYLS, did you open up the record's from it's plastic? If you did it says you have NO intentions of selling it down the road for profit and that you would never sell it b/c you love DMB and it's for you only.
If you did not open it, IMO you are trying for profit, your not sure if you will like the Vinyls in 10 years,
Bottom line, were all on this site b/c we like/love the band, I would never get rid of any of my DMB memorabilia, I will hand it down to family & friends and even another DMB fans. I have opened both vinyls, but I am on the other side for one reason and one reason only, I did buy a second Vinyl of BW and i will not open it, but rather plastic rap it again, frame it & lock it up in my safe. I would then pass it down to my son some day, and start a tradition where my son would pass it down to his son, so on and on....

[mcwyffe]

i dig the posters.

[k270]

I can see the posters holding their value. People who buy double or triple the price aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer. The only way I see a poster being worth more than $35 (or whatever the venue price was) is if a) The show had a historical event happen at it (the flecktones guesting on all songs doesn't count, b)the show took place at a historical venue and was the last show at said venue c) the poster was created by a well known artist. I don't see any other reason why a poster will be worth $600 twenty years from now.