The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt)

Erich · 11-13-2009, 10:59 PM

I mentioned this movie in the Watchmen thread, and then felt the need to make a new thread about it.

This is pretty much the only movie where the violence made me wince. Brilliant acting on many parts, and the writing was done by none other than Nick "Old Testament" Cave. The movie succeeded in completely blurring the lines between good and bad, despite making it (for the most part) obvious whose side people are on.

Highly recommended if you haven't seen it. If you don't like graphic violence though, it's pretty rough in that respect, but not in a Saw sense; the violence, despite being exaggerated, has a realistic feel*, which is what bothered me the most (in the good way).

* realistic in the sense that the emotions behind the violence were portrayed realistically, even if the blood was kicked up a slight notch.

And the music, also written by Nick Cave (with Warren Ellis), was very well done.

Anyone else enjoy this movie?

Erich · 11-13-2009, 11:03 PM

Here's a clip of the movie, which really shows the stark juxtaposition of both beauty and violence, and which "side" is administering it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgHxIWbLiBI

bothedmbfan · 11-13-2009, 11:15 PM

I just put it on my netflix list. Fuck, I hate Guy Pearce, and yet, he's in 3 movies I put on there.

bannar7 · 11-13-2009, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich

I mentioned this movie in the Watchmen thread, and then felt the need to make a new thread about it.

This is pretty much the only movie where the violence made me wince. Brilliant acting on many parts, and the writing was done by none other than Nick "Old Testament" Cave. The movie succeeded in completely blurring the lines between good and bad, despite making it (for the most part) obvious whose side people are on.

Highly recommended if you haven't seen it. If you don't like graphic violence though, it's pretty rough in that respect, but not in a Saw sense; the violence, despite being exaggerated, has a realistic feel*, which is what bothered me the most (in the good way).

* realistic in the sense that the emotions behind the violence were portrayed realistically, even if the blood was kicked up a slight notch.

And the music, also written by Nick Cave (with Warren Ellis), was very well done.

Anyone else enjoy this movie?

Go see zombieland.

bannar7 · 11-13-2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

I just put it on my netflix list. Fuck, I hate Guy Pearce, and yet, he's in 3 movies I put on there.

Momento?

HolyCow · 11-13-2009, 11:38 PM

Great flick.

ExistenceNow · 11-13-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bannar7

Go see zombieland.

I doubt that's the type of violence he's talking about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bannar7

MEmento?

Elliott Evans · 11-13-2009, 11:58 PM

Own the DVD. End scene is brilliant.

AlpineValley804 · 11-14-2009, 01:41 AM

Excellent film - really need to give it a rewatch soon.

matt2053 · 11-14-2009, 02:13 AM

Very food film. Saw it in the theatre, need to see it again...

bannar7 · 11-14-2009, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

I doubt that's the type of violence he's talking about.

Why are you out to get me

AlpineValley804 · 11-14-2009, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bannar7

Why are you out to get me

I can assure you, it's nothing personal.

One movie's gore is for comedic effect while the other is meant to be taken seriously.

antsman41 · 11-14-2009, 03:27 AM

Guy Pearce rules, Bo!

Why do you hate him?

LA, Memento, Factory Girl (by far best Warhol representation on film), and he was the fuckin' Count...

haildmb · 11-14-2009, 08:08 AM

I love Guy Pearce, I only wish he were in more movies. I'll have to check this one out...

charlesobscure · 11-14-2009, 10:15 AM

This movie is soooooooooooooooo underrated; excellent, excellent film

bothedmbfan · 11-14-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antsman41

Guy Pearce rules, Bo!

Why do you hate him?

LA, Memento, Factory Girl (by far best Warhol representation on film), and he was the fuckin' Count...

I really, really, really rather dislike LA Confidential. Momento was good, but they could have had Paulie Shore in that role and I would have been entertained.

Elliott Evans · 11-14-2009, 12:13 PM

Pearce is also great in Ravenous and First Snow.

Very underrated actor. He has a nice quiet way of performing.

antsman41 · 11-14-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott Evans

Pearce is also great in Ravenous and First Snow.

Very underrated actor. He has a nice quiet way of performing.

How is Ravenous?

Elliott Evans · 11-14-2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antsman41

How is Ravenous?

Gory.

TempHelpNeeded · 02-14-2010, 10:39 PM

Watching it now. Just finished the whipping scene.

Good movie so far.

Sooner17 · 02-14-2010, 11:06 PM

Great film. Saw it for the first time last year, might rewatch again soon.

charlesobscure · 02-14-2010, 11:23 PM

Absolutely brilliant film, can't believe it didn't get more press

TempHelpNeeded · 02-14-2010, 11:24 PM

Loved it.

Bayou · 02-14-2010, 11:40 PM

MEMENTO

How can the same film get spelt wrong twice in 5 posts??

clayj41 · 02-14-2010, 11:47 PM

Not a fan. I found it to be very average.

11-13-2009, 10:59 PM	#1
Erich Handsome & Genocidal Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 19,811	The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) I mentioned this movie in the Watchmen thread, and then felt the need to make a new thread about it. This is pretty much the only movie where the violence made me wince. Brilliant acting on many parts, and the writing was done by none other than Nick "Old Testament" Cave. The movie succeeded in completely blurring the lines between good and bad, despite making it (for the most part) obvious whose side people are on. Highly recommended if you haven't seen it. If you don't like graphic violence though, it's pretty rough in that respect, but not in a Saw sense; the violence, despite being exaggerated, has a realistic feel, which is what bothered me the most (in the good way). realistic in the sense that the emotions behind the violence were portrayed realistically, even if the blood was kicked up a slight notch. And the music, also written by Nick Cave (with Warren Ellis), was very well done. Anyone else enjoy this movie? __________________ I disagree with your opinion, but will defend to the death your right to go fuck yourself. ~Joey Comeau

11-13-2009, 11:03 PM	#2
Erich Handsome & Genocidal Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 19,811	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Here's a clip of the movie, which really shows the stark juxtaposition of both beauty and violence, and which "side" is administering it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgHxIWbLiBI __________________ I disagree with your opinion, but will defend to the death your right to go fuck yourself. ~Joey Comeau

11-13-2009, 11:38 PM	#6
HolyCow Cubs Win! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Norman, Oklahoma Posts: 22,695	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Great flick. __________________ Royce

11-14-2009, 01:41 AM	#9
AlpineValley804 Aspiring Filmmaker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 20,198	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Excellent film - really need to give it a rewatch soon. __________________ - Casey

11-14-2009, 02:13 AM	#10
matt2053 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Flo-Rida Posts: 834	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Very food film. Saw it in the theatre, need to see it again...

11-14-2009, 03:27 AM	#13
antsman41 I dangle... Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Center Ice at The Xcel Energy Center; but seriously... Minneapolis, MN Posts: 6,199	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Guy Pearce rules, Bo! Why do you hate him? LA, Memento, Factory Girl (by far best Warhol representation on film), and he was the fuckin' Count...

11-14-2009, 08:08 AM	#14
haildmb I <3 Seattle too Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 10,271	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) I love Guy Pearce, I only wish he were in more movies. I'll have to check this one out... __________________ ~John

11-14-2009, 10:15 AM	#15
charlesobscure Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 260	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) This movie is soooooooooooooooo underrated; excellent, excellent film

02-14-2010, 10:39 PM	#20
TempHelpNeeded Shake Weight© Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 39,236	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Watching it now. Just finished the whipping scene. Good movie so far. __________________ - Greg - FIND OUT ABOUT ME

02-14-2010, 11:23 PM	#22
charlesobscure Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 260	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Absolutely brilliant film, can't believe it didn't get more press

02-14-2010, 11:24 PM	#23
TempHelpNeeded Shake Weight© Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 39,236	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Loved it. __________________ - Greg - FIND OUT ABOUT ME

02-14-2010, 11:40 PM	#24
Bayou Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 300	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) MEMENTO How can the same film get spelt wrong twice in 5 posts?? Last edited by Bayou; 02-14-2010 at 11:42 PM.

02-14-2010, 11:47 PM	#25
clayj41 Clay "Fabio" Matthews Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 51,972	Re: The Proposition (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt) Not a fan. I found it to be very average.

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