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Old 11-22-2009, 04:06 PM   #1
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Lady Gaga before she went gaga

This really blew me away.

She's very talented, it's too bad she is throwing it all away to sing the pop crap she is famous for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7j2jWS_Vcw
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:09 PM   #2
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

She's not throwing it away, she's going all Andy Kaufman. There's a reason she's not doing her current music as Stephanie Germanatta. Gaga is directly taken from Queen's Radio Gaga, which clearly meant shit, in less direct terms. Her name itself is admitting that what she is making is derivative and simplistic. This is who she still is, Lady Gaga is a money maker. I really respect what she's doing, actually.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:13 PM   #3
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She's not throwing it away, she's going all Andy Kaufman. There's a reason she's not doing her current music as Stephanie Germanatta. Gaga is directly taken from Queen's Radio Gaga, which clearly meant shit, in less direct terms. Her name itself is admitting that what she is making is derivative and simplistic. This is who she still is, Lady Gaga is a money maker. I really respect what she's doing, actually.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:13 PM   #4
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

wow, between these first 2 posts my respect for her has shot through the roof. its too bad she can't just be stephanie though.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:14 PM   #5
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

she is like 50 times hotter as a normal human being
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:15 PM   #6
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

Actually, in her new video Bad Romance, there's a part where it flashes to a row of computer monitors with people bidding on "Lady Gaga". Again, completely admitting to her selling out. It's actually really funny, and makes her act much more enjoyable when you look at it as a sham. That song is actually pretty addictive, but again only when you take it at face value and realize it's a super talented person having a bit of fun.
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She's not throwing it away, she's going all Andy Kaufman. There's a reason she's not doing her current music as Stephanie Germanatta. Gaga is directly taken from Queen's Radio Gaga, which clearly meant shit, in less direct terms. Her name itself is admitting that what she is making is derivative and simplistic. This is who she still is, Lady Gaga is a money maker. I really respect what she's doing, actually.
Exactly. She's a Performance Artist, and her commentary is on the nature of society's obsession with fame. Unfortunately, most people just think she's weird and don't get that.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:34 PM   #8
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

If anyone knows where she came from, the picture is a lot clearer. She was playing piano by ear before kindergarten, was accepted to Juilliard but didn't attend, and was accepted early to NYU's Tisch school at the age of 17. Her talent is not even questionable. However, where she made her name was in burlesque clubs, rock clubs, and other clubs that kind of had that kitsch, campy Rocky Horror Picture Show vibe. And her current act is directly mirroring that.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:43 PM   #9
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yeah I always got that there was an element of irony to her performances, her music is still extremely average though
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:43 PM   #10
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

I'm really glad that this video surfaced.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:50 PM   #11
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

She made a shit ton of money by going pop. Who the fuck wouldn't do that?
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:00 PM   #12
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACm9yECwSso

it's so aesthetically weird that i just have to keep watching.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:07 PM   #13
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

she's fucking awesome
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:09 PM   #14
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

Her entire act is like seeing a Salvador Dali painting come to life. It's so unusual and strange, but it's interesting and highly original and it has substance. No one can argue that there isn't real talent behind it, as much as they want to hate her and her music. Maybe it's not your cup of tea (or mine), but you can't really ignore it, and I think that's saying something.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:12 PM   #15
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And you know what else -- when she does eventually put out a "normal" record where it's stripped down and just maybe her and a piano or whatever, it's going to blow people away. And she'll be able to get away with it and probably garner even more attention than she gets now.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:47 PM   #16
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

this is just fantastic except certain parts where she goes a bit nuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5bXU...F8FD189BEB87D4
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:52 PM   #17
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

isnt she a tranny?
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:52 PM   #18
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

...she used to be HOT?

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Old 11-22-2009, 05:56 PM   #19
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Re: Lady Gaga before she went gaga

The only contact I've had with her work is an ad for her personalized line of earbud headphones. The little editorial they had her write was so repulsive that I have no interest in anything else she's done.
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isnt she a tranny?
No, she's a hermaphrodite. Different things.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:05 PM   #21
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...she used to be HOT?

This, everyone, is why greed is one of the seven deadly sins.
Because this girl came up with a way to become successful that is somewhat original and totally subversive? That's not greedy, it's incredibly shrewd and savvy.
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Because this girl came up with a way to become successful that is somewhat original and totally subversive? That's not greedy, it's incredibly shrewd and savvy.
Umm..original? maybe..

but the bitch is crazier than mariah carey.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:19 PM   #23
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She was kind of pretty. Could of been the next Norah Jones.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:20 PM   #24
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...she used to be HOT?

This, everyone, is why greed is one of the seven deadly sins.
please...

This has been going on since radio and TV were invented. There is PLENTY of retardedly shitty pop music in the 50s and 60s that you associate with a name that's famous so you'd probably think the music was good. I'm not saying modern pop and Lady GaGa is great and chock full of substance, it's not, but this has been happening for decades to much lesser quality extents.

Her art is not just about the music, like people have said it's performance. You may be a decent musician, but if you put out a record I guarantee she would be 1000x more interesting to watch than you, which is part of the puzzle.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:31 PM   #25
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I fail to see why she should be commended for being a sellout.
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hopefully she pulls a john mayer.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:36 PM   #27
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I fail to see why she should be commended for being a sellout.
We're not commending her, we're just saying what she does now is not bad. If you think the shit she does is selling out, you don't know the meaning of the phrase selling out. She's actually being more unique than any pop star has been in years and years. It was a complete gamble if people would take to her weirdness, and it just so happens they do. That's not selling out, that's being successful in music.
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I fail to see why she should be commended for being a sellout.

what i hate about pop music (and to some "hip hop") is that it may be "art" to some, but it's not real music if you can not recreate the sound live in concert with real musical instruments.
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We're not commending her, we're just saying what she does now is not bad. If you think the shit she does is selling out, you don't know the meaning of the phrase selling out. She's actually being more unique than any pop star has been in years and years. It was a complete gamble if people would take to her weirdness, and it just so happens they do. That's not selling out, that's being successful in music.
I think she is a sell out. Her music is nothing new or interesting, it's just another female pop artist. It contains all the basic elements of a Brittany Spears or Jessica Simpson song. I don't buy your argument. There are many different definitions of success. You can be a sellout and still be successful. Monetary success is probably the main reason people do sell out.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:42 PM   #30
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So...M.I.A. would be a sellout then to?
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