Mr. Robot (USA show)

[thebridge15]

I noticed that too, I think that was just an allusion by esmail

[junior94]

I think it was nothing more than a fun easter egg, and two times over. You got the real Silk Road guy with it, but also where he got it from to begin with, the perfection that is "The Princess Bride".


there's already been a few times this season where if you really look at the screen in detail when Elliot or whoever is doing a hack, you look at the URL or the IP address that's typed in, and you put that exact thing in your own browser, it'll take you to some viral site linked to the show in just a shallow, interesting sort of way. When I watch the post-show done on the Screen Junkies network, they always have this one guy (forget his name) on thru Skype, he's a real life "good guy hacker", and he offers a lot of technical expertise.
It's a very Lost-sort of thing to do.

[Gene Parmesan]

Thought homeboys Chinese speaking scene was a little hard to watch. They shot most of it from afar, but it just felt a little Kung Fu-ish on the overdub.

[Benny003]

Originally Posted by Gene Parmesan

Thought homeboys Chinese speaking scene was a little hard to watch. They shot most of it from afar, but it just felt a little Kung Fu-ish on the overdub.

I was thinking he was speaking Mandarin better than I would expect that actor to be able to speak, but I wasn't looking for an overdub. Makes more sense now.

[TMoore4075]

Already got a season 3 huh?

http://mashable.com/2016/08/16/mr-ro...k#KfB64nXvVZqy

[thebridge15]

would like it to be confirmed as the last

[junior94]

actually I've read that in a perfect world Esmail has it envisioned as 5 seasons.

[TMoore4075]

If they can keep it up for that long fine but shows like this often struggle later on. Maybe not being 24 episodes could help. I don't want them to overdue it though and ruin it.

[Benny003]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

If they can keep it up for that long fine but shows like this often struggle later on. Maybe not being 24 episodes could help. I don't want them to overdue it though and ruin it.

What other shows are like this? This kind of has the makings of a show like Breaking Bad to me, which I thought was very successful with the length that it went. The first season merely sets up the premise. I think 5 seasons would be appropriate.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by junior94

actually I've read that in a perfect world Esmail has it envisioned as 5 seasons.

jfc

guess I will hold off judgement on how this season ends but come on, it's already feeling pretty stretched thin

[artiej1120]

How many people will be saying "I knew it!" after tonight's episode?

[Ascf33]

show is incredible.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by Ascf33

show is incredible.

meh... yes and no. I just can't believe this show's got the balls to seriously play out Elliot's narration at the end there like he was genuinely "keeping this from us". I was REEEEEEEEEEEEALLY hoping this wasn't going to be the case, that Sam Esmail was better than this, because this has been SO FUCKING OBVIOUS for the entire season.

I'm actually quite disappointed at this reveal.

[scrock25]

There's going to be one person in particular to come in here and say "I told you so!" even though there was literally nothing to tell anybody because we all knew because it was so obvious - not to mention it probably wasn't even an original idea of theirs.

[Ascf33]

Originally Posted by junior94

meh... yes and no. I just can't believe this show's got the balls to seriously play out Elliot's narration at the end there like he was genuinely "keeping this from us". I was REEEEEEEEEEEEALLY hoping this wasn't going to be the case, that Sam Esmail was better than this, because this has been SO FUCKING OBVIOUS for the entire season.

I'm actually quite disappointed at this reveal.

to each their own. I thought the episode and the reveal were both perfect.

[artiej1120]

What I LOVE about the reveal is there's still 5 episodes left. It's not an end of the season twist like S1 where it wraps most things up. Tons of different directions they can go in with this twist.

[thebridge15]

esmail

"hmm, the plot is suffering since there are only two characters that anyone gives a shit about. I'll just toss in some nonsensical twist! that'll be edgy!"

dude is turning into pizzolatto quickly. needs a writers room for next season for sure.

[scrock25]

Awesome show is awesome.

[Benny003]

I enjoyed the reveal. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I thought they kept it covered up reasonably well. It makes sense now obviously. Are we supposed to assume that he's in jail for killing Tyrell then? What exactly did he kill him for again? The end of S1 is kind of foggy. I thought Tyrell was on Elliot's side to take down E Corp. I don't recall the motive to kill him.

[junior94]

So, I don't have an as overall negative opinion about the episode as my initial post might've seemed to suggest. That was just a knee jerk reaction. It's just that, with what Esmail did with s1, particularly the end of it and the big twist, I kind of took it for granted that he'd then be very aware that WE would become very aware. That we'd come into the next season looking for another twist and trying to find deeper meanings in tons of different things, and as such, something like this would be likely seen from a mile off. oh well.


The reason Elliot is in jail, obviously this will soon be explained but I'd say the most likely is he surrendered for the specific hacking he did against his therapist's boyfriend, the guy who was actually married and Elliot even made him give him his dog. It's reasonable then that first of all, this wouldn't be a crime for which he'd be away for an excessive period of time (especially if he turned himself in) and also for why his shrink was willing to start seeing him again, under these special conditions. He was at least offering contrition for what he did.


As far as Tyrell, technically Mr Robot in this ep finally confesses to Elliot that Robot killed him (shooting him there in the arcade with the gun hidden in the popcorn), but I don't believe that for one friggin second. WAY too little of it there was made for it having been the truth, if so. Mr Robot just wanted to appease Elliot for the time being so they could move on. Also (and credit goes to the Reddit boards for this one) it does seem very likely that Joanna is doing everything she has with DJ boy for the entire season as a build up to framing him for the murder that Tyrell committed last year. The Sharon Knowles woman, I think her name was. That that's the whole reason for the "relationship" with him. Makes it so they're never seen in public, she brings up this week that they met at an E-corp party, and encouraging him to being into strangling her to later paint him as some stalker to the police who has a penchant for strangling women.

[thebridge15]

I am abjectly fed up with the joanna storyline

[junior94]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

I am abjectly fed up with the joanna storyline

well a big part of why that theory about framing makes TOTAL sense to me (though again, admittedly, I hadn't thought of it), because frankly with Tyrell still not fully being brought back into the story yet, practically everything in the Joanna thread has literally felt like it's been material from a completely different show. like there's just been a giant "what the hell is the friggin point of this??" hanging over it, so that's got to be it.

[AJF_41]

don't click this, unless you are all caught up

http://imgur.com/gallery/SNrtJ

was very helpful

[neumdogg]

The reason I love this reveal is because Elliott is admitting to the audience that he PURPOSELY came up with the illusion to cope with prison life. As opposed to his illusion of his father last year which he thought was real.

Makes you think the Elliott is definition more in control of his affliction.

Season started slow but loving it now.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

don't click this, unless you are all caught up

http://imgur.com/gallery/SNrtJ

was very helpful

I know this has nothing to do with the show, but thank you soooooooooo much for posting that, only because it led me to some other posts I've never seen before that are genuinely among the funniest things I've ever fucking seen.

for instance, I was just full on reduced to tears and snot from laughing at this
http://i.imgur.com/Fk1O108.gif

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by junior94

well a big part of why that theory about framing makes TOTAL sense to me (though again, admittedly, I hadn't thought of it), because frankly with Tyrell still not fully being brought back into the story yet, practically everything in the Joanna thread has literally felt like it's been material from a completely different show. like there's just been a giant "what the hell is the friggin point of this??" hanging over it, so that's got to be it.

but who cares? she's trying to frame someone for someone tyrell did? why bother?

[junior94]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

but who cares? she's trying to frame someone for someone tyrell did? why bother?

well I suppose we're maybe yet to fully understand the whole reason, but for now I'm thinking that SHE believes Tyrell is still alive (where have those dropped off gifts been coming from?), and so is staying away for a reason. Remember, we certainly didn't have a complete understanding of what their whole grand plan was by the end of last season. And given that Esmail spent almost like half of the whole show on it last year, it must be important.

and those that say that Joanna broke things off with Tyrell last year after the baby was born, they don't remember what happened before we left that scene. Yes, she did at first (and very coldly) say "I no longer wish to be married to you", but after he pleaded to her for another chance, she did give him one. She basically said "if you still want a place in this family, finish what you need to do". So it would seem to me that at the very least, she doesn't want a murder charge hanging over Tyrell's head when he finally returns. and maybe it would just help herself somehow (even before Tyrell might show back up) if someone else was charged with that... ? I don't know.

but all that being said, I can still totally understand your frustration with it so far.

[thebridge15]

I meant that even if you completely ignore the murder charge, isn't tyrell still blamed for five/nine?

[junior94]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

I meant that even if you completely ignore the murder charge, isn't tyrell still blamed for five/nine?

yea, I can't deny there's that. I mean, while he's obviously far from even being charged (much less convicted), I think in the show's universe he's still the person most thought to be tied to it, to be at the head of fsociety.

There's obviously still a lot to answer for, but as someone else already pointed out, the good thing is even with the "big reveal", only roughly half the season is over. but we might have another Lost-style thing on our hands, where certain things we won't get clarity for another couple years.


btw I did NOT bring that up to get into the umpteenth argument on what was and wasn't "clarified" by the end of Lost

[artiej1120]

I still don't think Tyrell is dead