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Old 11-15-2012, 11:55 AM   #1
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David Fincher & Kevin Spacey's HOUSE OF CARDS On Netflix (2.1.13)

I've really been looking forward to this for quite awhile now, and they've finally come out with a trailer for it.

http://youtu.be/ULwUzF1q5w4


It's an adaption of a British series of the same name, it's a 13 episode run (a 2nd season has already been approved) about looking behind the scenes of politics right in the heart of Washington, Kevin Spacey plays a congressman. He and David Fincher are mainly responsible for this thing making it to the screen, and Fincher himself directed the first two episodes.


Word is the whole first season cost about $100M to produce. It also has a very interesting looking supporting cast, including Robin Wright, Kate Mara, Kristen Connelly and one of my favorite underrated actresses, Constance Zimmer. It premieres on the Netflix service on February 1st, 2013.
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    This is gonna be great.
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    Old 11-15-2012, 12:33 PM   #3
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    oh plus I forgot to mention the screenwriter from Ides Of March is the person who wrote this. It's definitely inspired me to seek out and watch the British original, though I'm trying to decide if I want to see that before or after this.
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    Will be watching, but not on Netflix. Fuck Netflix.
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    Old 11-15-2012, 12:42 PM   #5
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    cool story brah
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    Old 02-01-2013, 11:38 AM   #6
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    Well FYI, not only does this debut today on Netflix, but all 13 episodes have been released at once. They're even offering the first episode for free to non-subscribers.
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    This was really bad.
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    Well you obviously couldn't have watched the entire thing already, I'm assuming you mean the pilot?
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    I forgot about this. I'll have to check it out this weekend
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    Well you obviously couldn't have watched the entire thing already, I'm assuming you mean the pilot?
    Si senor. If it was really bad, why would I watch all of it?
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    pilot wasnt great
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    Just finished the pilot. While granted I thought the dialog was a little flat and uninspired sounding at times, overall I'd by no means call it bad. I'm easily in for the next episode, at the very least. Though, strangely, I thought Spacey's southern accent kinda dropped in and out here and there.

    Not as if the two shows are alike in content obviously, but to try and make a comparison to another recent pilot where at least the "thriller" description is common, I thought this show was still leaps and bounds above The Following. I mean I've really got barely any interest in trying out the 2nd episode of that.
    and maybe it really was just all the push up bra, because not that I've really even seen her in a lot of stuff, but I don't remember Kate Mara having like three times the rack of her sister
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    Episode 2. The Robin Wright scene in the coffee shop near the end was a little too on the nose for me, and I didn't see the point at all for the bit with Spacey and the homeless screaming guy. Well, I mean I did, but it was completely unnecessary, and I hate to say but bordering on silly. But still as a whole compelling.
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    I heard about this awhile ago, when Netflix announced it was jumping into original programming, but I haven't give it much thought since (the Arrested Development re-boot is another story). What the hell is this thing about, anyways? I've heard nothing about the description and have seen next to no press about it, outside of the fact that it was being reported that Netflix was making original programming. The early comments here don't inspire a lot of confidence, nor do 95% of Kevin Spacey's more recent filmed projects.
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    I heard about this awhile ago, when Netflix announced it was jumping into original programming, but I haven't give it much thought since (the Arrested Development re-boot is another story). What the hell is this thing about, anyways? I've heard nothing about the description and have seen next to no press about it, outside of the fact that it was being reported that Netflix was making original programming. The early comments here don't inspire a lot of confidence, nor do 95% of Kevin Spacey's more recent filmed projects.
    I agree, it seems generally in the pop culture world, it's gotten relatively little press. The names involved are probably the biggest thing it's got going for it. It's a remake of a BBC series from the early 90's (that I've not seen), Spacey plays a congressman who finds out when the new administration gets into office that he's not getting Secretary Of State, when he thought he'd had it sewn up. So most of what it seems to be so far is him orchestrating his revenge upon everyone.

    The main thing that's appealing to me so far, it's essentially at the end of the day one reeeeeally long con that Spacey's character is running, he's got so many balls up in the air to accomplish the many facets of his plan. And an intelligent con man is pretty much my favorite possible character in a story.
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    2nd episode was just as bad as the 1st.

    The Following is awesome.
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    2nd episode was just as bad as the 1st.

    The Following is awesome.
    wow, I genuinely thought you were smarter than that.
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    wow, I genuinely thought you were smarter than that.
    dont be mad I have better taste than you in tv shows.

    I think I was too harsh....I didnt think the 1st episode was great, and I didnt thing the 2nd episode was great either. (house of cards)

    If you want to call the Following cliche, you can ignore the cliches in House of Cards either.
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    Overall I thought it was very entertaining. But it definitely falls into the good, not great category. Spoilers below.

    Spacey is awesome, and I'd watch him in just about anything, but it would have been nice if at some point during the season they actually showed him to be the least bit human. I suppose the reunion episode sort of qualifies, but they never go back to it, or show any other glimpses of a real person. That being said, it was still great to watch Frank Underwood work.

    Claire and her individual storyline was definitely the weak point of the show. I couldn't care less about her charity, or her fling with the photographer. Basically, her cold and disinterested demeanor throughout the season made me feel cold and disinterested to her story. Maybe that was the point? But if it was, it was a stupid point.

    Kate Mara was awesome as Zoey. I thought her and Spacey had excellent chemistry and I enjoyed almost all of their scenes. The weak point in her storyline was the transition from being on Frank's side to against him. It felt rushed and unearned to me. I never really got her motivation for switching sides, seemed like it would be in her best interest to protect Frank.

    I loved Russo's storyline too, though it was hard to watch at times, particularly in his final episode. Also, having Frank kill Peter was a little over the top. I think the revelation that everything throughout the season was orchestrated by Frank was enough to show how sociopathic and obsessed with power he was, they didn't need to beat us over the head with it by having him kill Russo. Also, it's not very believable.

    I'll keep watching next season, mostly because of Spacey and some of the other performances. In the hands of lesser actors, I think this could have been a real piece of shit. Also, I still don't understand how Netflix plans to make money off of this. Releasing the entire season at once may be how their customers consume TV, but it's no way to make money. At least not when you are spending $100M to make the show and then giving it away all at once.
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    Also, I still don't understand how Netflix plans to make money off of this. Releasing the entire season at once may be how their customers consume TV, but it's no way to make money. At least not when you are spending $100M to make the show and then giving it away all at once.

    If I recall correctly, their revenue comes from signing up for NetFlix, period. It's the same thing as cable: If you want to watch Boardwalk Empire, and you don't have HBO, you pay monthly to get HBO. Whatever that cost is ($10-$20/month), multiplied by 1-3 million people who subscribe because of the show, it eventually pays for itself.

    Plus, NetFlix is hoping that people who sign up because of House of Cards see what else NetFlix has to offer, and how you can use it on so many platforms, people will STAY subscribed after they've watched the show.

    So, in a roundabout way, House of Cards is a $100 million commercial for NetFlix.
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    If I recall correctly, their revenue comes from signing up for NetFlix, period. It's the same thing as cable: If you want to watch Boardwalk Empire, and you don't have HBO, you pay monthly to get HBO. Whatever that cost is ($10-$20/month), multiplied by 1-3 million people who subscribe because of the show, it eventually pays for itself.

    Plus, NetFlix is hoping that people who sign up because of House of Cards see what else NetFlix has to offer, and how you can use it on so many platforms, people will STAY subscribed after they've watched the show.

    So, in a roundabout way, House of Cards is a $100 million commercial for NetFlix.
    Right, I understand that premise. But unlike HBO, House of Cards aired all in one day. At least on HBO, those who were only interested in The Sopranos had to sign up for 3 months (minimum) to watch the season. With Netflix, users interested in the show can sign up for one month (or use the countless free trials Netflix sends out), watch the show, and then cancel.

    Everyone knows what Netflix is about at this point, it's not like people are going to sign up because of House of Cards and be blown away by what Netflix can offer.
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    Overall I thought it was very entertaining. But it definitely falls into the good, not great category. Spoilers below.

    Spacey is awesome, and I'd watch him in just about anything, but it would have been nice if at some point during the season they actually showed him to be the least bit human. I suppose the reunion episode sort of qualifies, but they never go back to it, or show any other glimpses of a real person. That being said, it was still great to watch Frank Underwood work.

    Claire and her individual storyline was definitely the weak point of the show. I couldn't care less about her charity, or her fling with the photographer. Basically, her cold and disinterested demeanor throughout the season made me feel cold and disinterested to her story. Maybe that was the point? But if it was, it was a stupid point.

    Kate Mara was awesome as Zoey. I thought her and Spacey had excellent chemistry and I enjoyed almost all of their scenes. The weak point in her storyline was the transition from being on Frank's side to against him. It felt rushed and unearned to me. I never really got her motivation for switching sides, seemed like it would be in her best interest to protect Frank.

    I loved Russo's storyline too, though it was hard to watch at times, particularly in his final episode. Also, having Frank kill Peter was a little over the top. I think the revelation that everything throughout the season was orchestrated by Frank was enough to show how sociopathic and obsessed with power he was, they didn't need to beat us over the head with it by having him kill Russo. Also, it's not very believable.

    I'll keep watching next season, mostly because of Spacey and some of the other performances. In the hands of lesser actors, I think this could have been a real piece of shit. Also, I still don't understand how Netflix plans to make money off of this. Releasing the entire season at once may be how their customers consume TV, but it's no way to make money. At least not when you are spending $100M to make the show and then giving it away all at once.
    Feel almost exactly the same way. The guy who played Russo -- easily the show's best character -- also played Hemingway in Midnight in Paris. Had no idea.

    Netflix owns the home video rights as well. They'll make a ton on that.
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    If you want to call the Following cliche, you can ignore the cliches in House of Cards either.
    The Following is garbage. Most shows/films are full of cliches. It's how they're presented that make the difference. Following is all rehashed horror lameness. House of Cards at least tried to frame a familiar story in a new way.
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    Netflix owns the home video rights as well. They'll make a ton on that.
    I found that out too, reading reviews after I finished the season - he was my favorite character in Midnight in Paris. Totally different role here and he killed it.
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    Overall I thought it was very entertaining. But it definitely falls into the good, not great category. Spoilers below.

    Spacey is awesome, and I'd watch him in just about anything, but it would have been nice if at some point during the season they actually showed him to be the least bit human. I suppose the reunion episode sort of qualifies, but they never go back to it, or show any other glimpses of a real person. That being said, it was still great to watch Frank Underwood work.

    Claire and her individual storyline was definitely the weak point of the show. I couldn't care less about her charity, or her fling with the photographer. Basically, her cold and disinterested demeanor throughout the season made me feel cold and disinterested to her story. Maybe that was the point? But if it was, it was a stupid point.

    Kate Mara was awesome as Zoey. I thought her and Spacey had excellent chemistry and I enjoyed almost all of their scenes. The weak point in her storyline was the transition from being on Frank's side to against him. It felt rushed and unearned to me. I never really got her motivation for switching sides, seemed like it would be in her best interest to protect Frank.

    I loved Russo's storyline too, though it was hard to watch at times, particularly in his final episode. Also, having Frank kill Peter was a little over the top. I think the revelation that everything throughout the season was orchestrated by Frank was enough to show how sociopathic and obsessed with power he was, they didn't need to beat us over the head with it by having him kill Russo. Also, it's not very believable.

    I'll keep watching next season, mostly because of Spacey and some of the other performances. In the hands of lesser actors, I think this could have been a real piece of shit. Also, I still don't understand how Netflix plans to make money off of this. Releasing the entire season at once may be how their customers consume TV, but it's no way to make money. At least not when you are spending $100M to make the show and then giving it away all at once.
    The murder is a direct allusion to the opening monologue of the series. Frank had no time for Peter's pain, and Peter had become "useless." So much like the dog, he decided to put him down.

    I think the writing of the show was fantastic, but I agree with you that the Zoe switch was drastic.
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    The murder is a direct allusion to the opening monologue of the series. Frank had no time for Peter's pain, and Peter had become "useless." So much like the dog, he decided to put him down.

    I think the writing of the show was fantastic, but I agree with you that the Zoe switch was drastic.
    Still though, killing a severely wounded dog is one thing, killing a congressman is quite another. I just didn't believe that any upstanding (read: not a criminal like Tony Soprano or Walter White) would ever go that far.
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    The Zoe reversal is a partially a woman scorned and partially she is just in way over her head. She thinks she can play with the big boys so to speak...
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    Good not great is the best way to describe it. The first two were almost bad, but the show picked up and was interesting enough. At times things were WAY oversimplified, as if they were dumbing it down, which was frustrating.

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    The Zoe reversal is a partially a woman scorned and partially she is just in way over her head. She thinks she can play with the big boys so to speak...
    Yeah, I kinda got that that's what they were going for, but in the last 3rd of the season she really just seemed genuinely interested in finding the story/truth. I kept waiting for her to either try to manipulate Frank or manipulate Janine as they were following up on these different leads, but it never happened.
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