David Fincher & Kevin Spacey's HOUSE OF CARDS On Netflix (2.1.13)

[Arby]

Originally Posted by AlpineValley804

Yeah I think this is the right practice. I would like to have at least one place where I can discuss the show episode by episode without fearing spoilers.

Maybe everything is fair game once the weekend is over?

The entire season 2 after this weekend?! Im not sure about that.

I dont think it will be easy to mod, so maybe it will just be up to people to be cautious when reading and courteous when discussing.

Like - if you do finish the entire season soon, dont post the cliff hanger or something.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by Arby

Im wondering how a thread like this can be monitored. Spoiling is obviously going to be a lot different because there is no set air time.

Anyone have any suggestions? I want people to be able to discuss, but I dont want things to get spoiled for anyone either

I don't know if my opinion carries any extra weight here as the thread starter or not (if not that's totally clue, I'm not looking for a power trip ) but even though the entire series debuts at once, I think it would be perfectly reasonable and polite to not talk about MAJOR plot points outside of tags for at the very least until Monday (certainly at the very least, the huge event that finishes out episode 1). I think generally speaking in my memory, even threads we have dedicated to specific feature films -- as opposed to Casey's movie thread -- those don't have big spoilers openly talked about until the end of opening weekend.


But I mean my previous post for instance, the rape that I talked about, I think I mentioned it in general enough terms (and that since it includes a brand new character we've never seen before, and might hardly ever again) I think I handled that openly in the thread with a fair amount of consideration.

[AlpineValley804]

Any time I put something up, I'll disclose which episode I'm discussing before the spoiler I tagged, so people know if it's safe to read or not depending on where they are at.

I'm pretty confident I'll get through nearly all of it, if not the entire thing by the end of the weekend, so I admit I am probably a little biased on that "Fair game" suggestion by the end of the weekend. I've already knocked out three episodes and I would keep going with it, if I didn't have to work tonight.

[Arby]

Originally Posted by junior94

I don't know if my opinion carries any extra weight here as the thread starter or not (if not that's totally clue, I'm not looking for a power trip ) but even though the entire series debuts at once, I think it would be perfectly reasonable and polite to not talk about MAJOR plot points outside of tags for at the very least until Monday (certainly at the very least, the huge event that finishes out episode 1). I think generally speaking in my memory, even threads we have dedicated to specific feature films -- as opposed to Casey's movie thread -- those don't have big spoilers openly talked about until the end of opening weekend.


But I mean my previous post for instance, the rape that I talked about, I think I mentioned it in general enough terms (and that since it includes a brand new character we've never seen before, and might hardly ever again) I think I handled that openly in the thread with a fair amount of consideration.

This is a great example - thanks for spoiling that there is a rape.



Regarding movie threads, HOC is a little different because with a movie you've either seen it or you havent yet. With this show people are at all different spots at different times, but probably still wanting to discuss with people without reading spoilers.

Like I said, its probably not possible to mod. I guess just read with caution and if you dont want anythign spoiled, it might be better just to stay out of the thread.

[Arby]

Originally Posted by AlpineValley804

Any time I put something up, I'll disclose which episode I'm discussing before the spoiler I tagged, so people know if it's safe to read or not depending on where they are at.

I'm pretty confident I'll get through nearly all of it, if not the entire thing by the end of the weekend, so I admit I am probably a little biased on that "Fair game" suggestion by the end of the weekend. I've already knocked out three episodes and I would keep going with it, if I didn't have to work tonight.

Yea I think this is a good idea. If people just took two seconds to start their post with "Season 2 Ep 5!!" or something, that would be great

[junior94]

Originally Posted by Arby

This is a great example - thanks for spoiling that there is a rape.

hahaa... I hear ya, but trust me, I didn't really significantly spoil anything for you. It's not a rape that takes place in the current time of the show, it's something WAY in the past. Honestly with the first 2 eps done so far, I wouldn't be surprised if it was referred to simply to inform on how Frank might behave. hell there were 20 other plot points introduced in the first couple hours that are way bigger than that.

[junior94]

pretty good line that Spacey had in the opening scene of ep3 about the VP slot, that I'd never heard before. the "Vice Presidents can either be door mats, or matadors. Which do you think I am?"

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by AlpineValley804

I've watched the first two episodes of Season 2 so far and immensely enjoyed both. However, there is something I take issue with as a result of something that was revealed in Episode 2:

The police did a rather not-so-thorough job of looking at the camera footage, in regards to what happened immediately before and after Zoey's death. For one, they would have seen her go behind the enclosed area in a rush, and secondly, they would have seen Frank's figure come out from the other side after the deed had been done and walking out of the station with no reaction to what was going on around him, despite that it was clear that everyone else was acknowledging what was going on. Also, would that really be the only camera they'd have at that stop? It doesn't seem like the writers really thought this part entirely through.

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in regards to the train station....

I ride the dc metro every day...its a very shitty system and i wouldnt be surprised if only one camera was working. . eveyrthing is always broken and not up to date

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[dsmith45]

Just finished Chapter 26 (last episode of S2).

My mind is so blown.

I wonder who he names VP? My guess would be Durant. And I can't believe they killed off Stamper. Honestly I think that kinda weakens the show, even though his character did get SUPER creepy with the read-to-me shit.

I was so amped when Zoey died. That tryst got so fucking old.

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[dvalukis]

Man, those "'F'-'U'" cufflinks.... that's the whole show right there.

[gonz085]

My favorite show by far.

Anyone notice how the tend to make the camera angles so Frank always looks to be above everyone? Spacey isn't the tallest guy. Something I appreciate about how it's shot.

[junior94]

btw one of the details I always find particularly interesting in any story that's being told about a presidency in the modern day is when during the recent past the show's universe sort of "branched off" from reality. I mean there clearly had been Reagan, we knew that right from the start of the pilot episode where Frank says he wants to coin the "trickle down diplomacy" term. But then it was either in episode 2 here or 3, and they quickly show that photo of Spacey sitting on a couch with Clinton, so perhaps he was the last real life president as far as HOC exists.

because even in The West Wing, we never did find out exactly who Jed Bartlet beat for his first term in office, only that he only did so by way of the electoral college, that he lost the popular vote. and they don't ever give the name the president he came directly after (when we see James Cromwell in season 5, I don't think he was supposed to have been Bartlet's immediate predecessor, probably one removed).


and gonzo to your above point, yea I think clearly that's a pretty deliberate move with the camera. And not especially surprising, given the place they mean to convey how Frank is among his peers.

[AllifromOhio]

Originally Posted by AlpineValley804

Yeah I think this is the right practice. I would like to have at least one place where I can discuss the show episode by episode without fearing spoilers.

Maybe everything is fair game once the weekend is over?

Damn, I don't have enough time to watch the whole season this weekend.

Thanks for telling us there is a rape.

[junior94]

well alright I apologize for that. But still, I really think that when you see it in the full context of the show, you'll feel like it's not like I truly ruined the experience of anything for you.

[thebridge15]

up to episode 4 spoilers:

this cyber attack storyline with the mcpoyle is so fucking silly

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[Arby]

They sure hit the ground running in episode 1 didnt they? Hot damn

[FromTheMorning]

I just watched the first two episodes of S2 and completely agree with the train station scene. That bothers me. But holy shit did it come out of nowhere.

[JacobLovesYou]

This show is ridiculously fun. I finished season 2 around midday.

[junior94]

question/topic thru episode 10, though this is a relatively small one...

The bit with Frank watching porn on his computer with the headphones (and particularly NOT even jerking off with it), do you think that was some kind of test for how Beachum would behave? that was a strange little moment, especially with how blatant Frank was about it.

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A general question I'd like to ask the thread that I was thinking about, who do you think is less redeemable at this point. Frank, for pulling all of the stuff that he has, or Doug Stamper, for so willingly doing all of this horrible stuff just FOR Frank? being, as the Chinese guy called him, his errand boy.

and has everyone been paying attention to the Director credit? Fincher doesn't seem to have been directly as involved this season, there are some carryovers. but I've noticed both Jodie Foster and Robin Wright herself have directed episodes.

[thebridge15]

question, early on:

how did doug and frank know that lucas was going to use the deep web?

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[canes101190]

Originally Posted by dvalukis

Man, those "'F'-'U'" cufflinks.... that's the whole show right there.

That was the best.

[dmbbearcat]

Through five episodes of Season 2 so far, and I love it. This is right behind Mad Men as my favorite TV drama.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by junior94

just finished 02x01, hooooollllllllyyyyy shit, they are so not fucking around this season. well done on them keeping that a secret during production. I mean that's a major goddamn change.

and I have to say it feels a little weird, just in the way they handled nudity last year with Kate Mara, she obviously didn't want to do anything clear and blatant. and now here in the premiere you almost just sort of randomly get to see the one photo of her topless. I can't help but wonder if that was maybe photoshopped, only her head.

I just finished episode 1 of season 2 and I clearly missed this photo

Either way, holy shit. This and Game of Thrones are the two best shows on "TV" right now. It's painful knowing that the next episode is right there for you to watch but you can't watch it because life gets in the way.

[junior94]

just finished episode 11. W.T.fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck??? I'm not sure how I feel about that particular development. I mean the ending of episode 1 was like thriller sort of shocking. This was just ten kinds of creepy/weird shocking.

[dmbbearcat]

S2E6 how cheesy and fake Camden Yards looks

[junior94]

so I'm in the middle of ep12, and for the hell of it I just want to lay out a prediction here of how some things may go by the end of the finale

They directly showed us Feng's extreme sexual proclivities, but without that having ever come up again or any other characters using against him, so on the surface you might think, what was the point? We understand from other sequences he's a very private guy, he's insanely rich. Then this bizarre prelude to a threesome in ep11 between Frank, Claire and Beachum. Well, we only see the start of them all kissing in the kitchen, I'm assuming the implication is they all went to bed. and technically they did bring up in season 1 how Frank has a bisexual streak in him.

anyway, with Walker and the first lady now being so paranoid about waiving the priviledge of their therapy sessions, I'm starting to think this other activity earlier in the season was set up for the reveal that the president and wifey themselves get up to REALLY crazy, kinky shit in the bedroom. and that's part of what they talked about with the therapist/reverend.

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[gonz085]

This show. So fucking good. Only 4 episodes in at the moment. Would be done by now but apparently it's too complicated for my gf to understand (yes, I know).

[thebridge15]

question for anyone about doug:

why the fuck does he spend so much time with rachel? is she really important enough to fly halfway across the country to see twice a week?

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[dmbbearcat]

bridge:

I was under the impression that Rachel was in Maryland. Not exactly halfway around the country, no?

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[thebridge15]

bearcat -

oh yea you're right. sorry, for some reason I thought she was in the midwest somewhere

still though, I don't really understand why she's super important. I think I'm missing something

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