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Old 07-20-2017, 06:07 AM   #1231
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the fact that cassette, vinyl, and cd cingles were (are?) still sold doesnt diminish the argument that a whole album used to be a focused effort for many bands. It was a painting that was meant to be seen as a collective piece of art. You can zoom in and focus on the intricate work of the Mona Lisa's hands, but the piece is meant to be seen as an entire piece.
And a lot of albums were trash.

If a band doesn't focus on making an entire album as a collective piece of art, that's on them, not iTunes.
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    they sold out, obviously.<br>
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    the inclusion of the digital version was a nice touch. which sold out as well. i got the flacs.<br>
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    the vinyl dmb did is $179 x 2500 for a total of $447,500. they could do something similar but limit a physical box to 3000 (30 years) priced at $300 ($900,000) and sell out easily.<br>
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    but, once again... glaring lack of thought/effort.
    I love this thought, but pure quantity times price doesn't necessarily necessitate actual profit. How much more materials/resources would it take to produce this (the box, inserts, and physical discs)? I would also assume this would make it a heavier product, thus costing more to ship as well. I'm sure most of this would be fronted on the customer.

    Ultimately it would boil down to the price tag being much more inflated (say around $500). I still love the idea, but I don't think it's a layup from the band's management's perspective. Again, I'd love it, but you'd need to know you have a fan base that it could work on. Personally I'd test the market with a silly compilation album in some sweet packaging...wait...
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    Old 07-20-2017, 07:46 AM   #1233
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    And a lot of albums were trash.

    If a band doesn't focus on making an entire album as a collective piece of art, that's on them, not iTunes.
    Completely true, but it seems like the idea of a cohesive "album" has diminished in importance with the rise of digital and streaming media.

    EDIT: I don't think its iTunes, or anyones "fault", its just how the industry started moving.
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    Completely true, but it seems like the idea of a cohesive "album" has diminished in importance with the rise of digital and streaming media.

    EDIT: I don't think its iTunes, or anyones "fault", its just how the industry started moving.
    I disagree entirely. Sounds like your favorite bands are just getting lazier.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 10:41 AM   #1235
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

    i purchased the vinyl and was hoping to hear if something was being digitally released. the vinyls did no good for me, but hoped to get them professionally transferred. now i see there were downloads available but it looks like i missed the boat...

    can someone please let me know what my options are to get them digitally in lossless flac so i can have them on a cd or digitally on my computer. i'm very upset about this and hope someone can help me. i've been an active member here for quite a while and have always been helpful and appreciate yours.

    thank you very much in advance for any insight.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 10:42 AM   #1236
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    i purchased the vinyl and was hoping to hear if something was being digitally released. the vinyls did no good for me, but hoped to get them professionally transferred. now i see there were downloads available but it looks like i missed the boat...

    can someone please let me know what my options are to get them digitally in lossless flac so i can have them on a cd or digitally on my computer. i'm very upset about this and hope someone can help me. i've been an active member here for quite a while and have always been helpful and appreciate yours.

    thank you very much in advance for any insight.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 10:48 AM   #1237
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    That's breaking news to us all if there were once downloads available for this. Would have cut in half the entire size of this thread with all the complaining that occurred here.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 11:17 AM   #1238
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    That's breaking news to us all if there were once downloads available for this. Would have cut in half the entire size of this thread with all the complaining that occurred here.
    did i misread someone's post then breaking it out $ wise? were these never released digitally? i saw someone post it was in flac and they were able to download them losslessly. is this untrue?

    are the only versions here on vinyl still? thanks again all.

    thanks guys.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 11:20 AM   #1239
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    did i misread someone's post then breaking it out $ wise? were these never released digitally? i saw someone post it was in flac and they were able to download them losslessly. is this untrue?

    are the only versions here on vinyl still? thanks again all.

    thanks guys.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 11:25 AM   #1240
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    did i misread someone's post then breaking it out $ wise? were these never released digitally? i saw someone post it was in flac and they were able to download them losslessly. is this untrue?

    are the only versions here on vinyl still? thanks again all.

    thanks guys.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 11:37 AM   #1241
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    Where is this post?
    it was the one where they broke it out mathwise...

    sorry if i misinformed anyone here.

    so the only option is still vinyl?
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    it was the one where they broke it out mathwise...

    sorry if i misinformed anyone here.

    so the only option is still vinyl?
    That was my post, but I didn't mention a digital download. It's still vinyl only.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 11:40 AM   #1243
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    I disagree entirely. Sounds like your favorite bands are just getting lazier.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 12:06 PM   #1244
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    That was my post, but I didn't mention a digital download. It's still vinyl only.


    Thanks man, sorry then, totally misread. If anyone can give me a heads up if it is released digitally (ever) would be awesome through a re: here
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    Old 07-21-2017, 12:17 PM   #1245
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    Thanks man, sorry then, totally misread. If anyone can give me a heads up if it is released digitally (ever) would be awesome through a re: here

    The rumor is that it will be released digitally at some point. So stay tuned...
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    Old 07-21-2017, 12:41 PM   #1246
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    The rumor is also that it won't be released in any format except vinyl.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 12:45 PM   #1247
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    The people who exhibit some level of inside knowledge on this forum all think there will be a CD set/download option in the coming months.
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    Old 07-21-2017, 12:46 PM   #1248
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    Plenty of acts still release fully realized albums.

    Just because people tend not to listen to them that way doesn't change that.

    Sure, it's probably made EPs and single releases more common, but the albums still exist.

    EDIT: But also, what's to say what the 'correct' length of a piece should be? If you can say something in 2 songs, why throw 10 more in there? Plenty of classic albums are way closer to a collection of songs than a cohesive whole. Also, if you really go down the route, the length of vinyl (and so, albums in the historic sense) is pretty arbitrary and set by "the man" too

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    Missed my chance on ordering this. If anyone bought one and is having remorse let me know!
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    Old 07-22-2017, 06:35 AM   #1250
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    Plenty of acts still release fully realized albums.

    Just because people tend not to listen to them that way doesn't change that.

    Sure, it's probably made EPs and single releases more common, but the albums still exist.

    EDIT: But also, what's to say what the 'correct' length of a piece should be? If you can say something in 2 songs, why throw 10 more in there? Plenty of classic albums are way closer to a collection of songs than a cohesive whole. Also, if you really go down the route, the length of vinyl (and so, albums in the historic sense) is pretty arbitrary and set by "the man" too
    Granted I haven't had my coffee this morning yet, but in lamens terms what does this mean. Im from the South and I don't speak "record label"
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    Ok, since the conversation has come up I've recently been considering upgrading my AT-LP120 with a custom U-Turn with the acrylic platter and the Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge along with a Pluto preamp...know it isn't the "top of the line" option but fits in the most I'd be looking to stretch the budget ($600 range) to upgrade. Since we have some people with more expertise than I have in this forum, please go ahead with your thoughts. Thanks in advance, I'll be reading your opinions while I debate ordering the new set.
    So I have this exact record player, platter and cartridge (w/ a different preamp) and happen to be looking to upgrade to the Pro-Ject Debut that everyone suggests. The U-Turn is great and definitely a step up from the AT. Let me know if you're interested in buying my player. It's in perfect condition but I'd be happy to sell it at a discount to a dmb fan.
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    after my long essay I sent a week prior, I emailed the warehouse at like 7:00 a.m. Friday, saying simply it would be appreciated to release a download at least to the people who purchased the vinyl. they replied at like 11:00 a.m. saying we are looking into this, thanks for your patience. maybe there is hope still lol. Insert Hilly comment below:

    Hilly: the fastest response from the warehouse ever!! best customer service around!!
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    This starts mailing this week correct?
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    Old 07-24-2017, 06:52 AM   #1254
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    This starts mailing this week correct?
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    Old 07-24-2017, 06:58 AM   #1255
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    after my long essay I sent a week prior, I emailed the warehouse at like 7:00 a.m. Friday, saying simply it would be appreciated to release a download at least to the people who purchased the vinyl. they replied at like 11:00 a.m. saying we are looking into this, thanks for your patience. maybe there is hope still lol. Insert Hilly comment below:

    Hilly: the fastest response from the warehouse ever!! best customer service around!!
    How would you like them to respond? What more did you need out of it?

    There's not currently a download option. Just because you sent a rant, they're not just going to email you the files.

    Good lord, man.
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    Old 07-24-2017, 08:30 AM   #1256
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    Missed my chance on ordering this. If anyone bought one and is having remorse let me know!
    Same here. Had one in my shopping cart last week but got sidetracked and didn't complete order Went back later and they were gone. There are some already on ebay though...for $300 & $999
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    Old 07-24-2017, 08:34 AM   #1257
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    I feel like this is the one release you can't say you didn't have enough time to pick up.

    Half of this thread is people complaining that it's a failure because it's not selling out.
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    Same here. Had one in my shopping cart last week but got sidetracked and didn't complete order Went back later and they were gone. There are some already on ebay though...for $300 & $999
    A few have already sold for $250 and $275

    It's the flipper's market now, unfortunately.
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    Old 07-24-2017, 08:45 AM   #1259
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    I feel like this is the one release you can't say you didn't have enough time to pick up.

    Half of this thread is people complaining that it's a failure because it's not selling out.
    Yea i def missed the boat on this one. Hope to be able to get it at some point in the future. DMB hasn't been much of a priority in my day to day lately and haven't been on the boards much at all. I used to be on top of limited release stuff as soon as it went on sale. Maybe it's the off year, or maybe i'm just getting old...probably the latter
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    How would you like them to respond? What more did you need out of it?

    There's not currently a download option. Just because you sent a rant, they're not just going to email you the files.

    Good lord, man.
    You do make a good point here.
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