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Old 11-22-2012, 06:14 PM   #121
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Re: Black Friday Shopping

I get paid very little and get yelled at constantly by selfish dickholes who want me to worship the ground they stand on.

For just one fucking day, I would like to have to not worry about putting in time off and figuring things out for a different day. I would like one day, that isn't a normal day off, to relax and enjoy time with my family. When the selfish dickholes start infringing on that time, well, that's when I have a problem.

You may say "It's only one day its not a big deal."

Yeah...easy to say when you work a 9-5 job with every weekend off. When you don't get set days off, and you have a fluctuating schedule that has you getting maybe about 3 hours of sleep if you're lucky, you really start to enjoy that one day off.

For instance, a coworker of mine works 2 jobs. Their last day off, was in July. July 4th. They've worked every single day between now and then. Thanksgiving was an important day for them, and they were looking forward to just that one day.. Well, now they had to go in to work a 14 hour shift between this afternoon and morning. There goes that day off.
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    I get paid very little and get yelled at constantly by selfish dickholes who want me to worship the ground they stand on.

    For just one fucking day, I would like to have to not worry about putting in time off and figuring things out for a different day. I would like one day, that isn't a normal day off, to relax and enjoy time with my family. When the selfish dickholes start infringing on that time, well, that's when I have a problem.

    You may say "It's only one day its not a big deal."

    Yeah...easy to say when you work a 9-5 job with every weekend off. When you don't get set days off, and you have a fluctuating schedule that has you getting maybe about 3 hours of sleep if you're lucky, you really start to enjoy that one day off.

    For instance, a coworker of mine works 2 jobs. Their last day off, was in July. July 4th. They've worked every single day between now and then. Thanksgiving was an important day for them, and they were looking forward to just that one day.. Well, now they had to go in to work a 14 hour shift between this afternoon and morning. There goes that day off.
    Neither you, nor your friend, are getting any sympathy from me. I'm active duty navy, own a business, go to school full time, and have a wife and kids. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, know where I am, work. Know where I was last year? Work.

    I'm guessing you're a bit younger than me, one day you'll look back and long for the days you have now.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:44 PM   #123
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    Neither you, nor your friend, are getting any sympathy from me. I'm active duty navy, own a business, go to school full time, and have a wife and kids. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, know where I am, work. Know where I was last year? Work.

    I'm guessing you're a bit younger than me, one day you'll look back and long for the days you have now.
    The navy is important. On a personal level for you, I'm sure school and family are important.

    A store being open on thanksgiving to make a few extra bucks is not important
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:48 PM   #124
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    The navy is important. On a personal level for you, I'm sure school and family are important.

    A store being open on thanksgiving to make a few extra bucks is not important
    It is to the store. No one is forcing anyone to work these jobs. Taco Bell, BK, Wendy's and McDs were all closed by me today, I'm sure if you're qualified for Walmart, you're more than qualified for those places.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:54 PM   #125
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    a business is open to make money, you know, hence why they're a business.

    let them be open 24/7. more money = more jobs.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:54 PM   #126
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    It is to the store. No one is forcing anyone to work these jobs. Taco Bell, BK, Wendy's and McDs were all closed by me today, I'm sure if you're qualified for Walmart, you're more than qualified for those places.
    Yea very important to the store. I'm not sure how many weeks/months Walmart could survive without this
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:55 PM   #127
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    Yea very important to the store. I'm not sure how many weeks/months Walmart could survive without this
    retail makes the majority of their money in the 4th quarter.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:57 PM   #128
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    Well let me just go out to the job tree then and pick off a magical job.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:58 PM   #129
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    retail makes the majority of their money in the 4th quarter.
    A quarter lasts 3 months
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    Old 11-22-2012, 06:59 PM   #130
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    The navy is important. On a personal level for you, I'm sure school and family are important.

    A store being open on thanksgiving to make a few extra bucks is not important
    well said!
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    Old 11-22-2012, 07:04 PM   #131
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    A quarter lasts 3 months
    boo hoo? business is business.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 07:13 PM   #132
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    boo hoo? business is business.
    I'm not gonna cry about it. I'll never have to work a holiday. I guess some people just have more empathy and compassion for other people though. Feels good.
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    I'm not gonna cry about it. I'll never have to work a holiday. I guess some people just have more empathy and compassion for other people though. Feels good.
    i'm not going to care that someone has to work retail on a holiday. i don't complain about requirements of my job. welcome to america.
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    Old 11-22-2012, 07:19 PM   #134
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    I get paid very little and get yelled at constantly by selfish dickholes who want me to worship the ground they stand on.

    For just one fucking day, I would like to have to not worry about putting in time off and figuring things out for a different day. I would like one day, that isn't a normal day off, to relax and enjoy time with my family. When the selfish dickholes start infringing on that time, well, that's when I have a problem.

    You may say "It's only one day its not a big deal."

    Yeah...easy to say when you work a 9-5 job with every weekend off. When you don't get set days off, and you have a fluctuating schedule that has you getting maybe about 3 hours of sleep if you're lucky, you really start to enjoy that one day off.

    For instance, a coworker of mine works 2 jobs. Their last day off, was in July. July 4th. They've worked every single day between now and then. Thanksgiving was an important day for them, and they were looking forward to just that one day.. Well, now they had to go in to work a 14 hour shift between this afternoon and morning. There goes that day off.
    its only one day. no big deal.

    all of this whiny bs pisses me off....as if youre the only one that has to work on holidays. gimme a break. everyone is bitching about the economy but dont want to work the evening of a holiday. boo hoo. now go to work so my wife and sister can buy shit from you later while i sleep in tomorrow and not worry about going to work until monday.

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    Old 11-22-2012, 07:23 PM   #135
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    I'm not gonna cry about it. I'll never have to work a holiday. I guess some people just have more empathy and compassion for other people though. Feels good.
    I would have compassion if they worked at Walmart because of forced labor, not because the job they willingly accepted works on a few holidays, and pays their employees 50% more (when they don't have to) on those holidays.
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    The "its only one day" argument works for both sides of the argument, so it cancels out
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    Old 11-22-2012, 07:28 PM   #137
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    I mean, I can see if you were 8 and you had to work on your birthday, being legitimately pissed off, but how grown adults can be angry they have to work on a holiday is beyond me.
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    The "its only one day" argument works for both sides of the argument, so it cancels out
    like offsetting penalties?
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    I mean, I can see if you were 8 and you had to work on your birthday, being legitimately pissed off, but how grown adults can be angry they have to work on a holiday is beyond me.
    Maybe some people want to see their family that they only see on holidays. Is that such a foreign idea to you?
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    like offsetting penalties?
    Exactly right, jack.
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    So we have established that retail outlets should continue to pay workers like shit and that those workers shouldn't complain about having to work on a holiday. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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    Hahah well said Wayne
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    Maybe some people want to see their family that they only see on holidays. Is that such a foreign idea to you?
    If they are that fond of their great aunt, I don't know, maybe visit her more than once a year.
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    So we have established that retail outlets should continue to pay workers like shit and that those workers shouldn't complain about having to work on a holiday. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
    I've established that people who willingly do something for money shouldn't whine when the person providing them money wants them to work. Plenty of low qualification jobs that are closed on holidays, find one of them.
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    If they are that fond of their great aunt, I don't know, maybe visit her more than once a year.
    Maybe they are busy working their retail job on non-holidays. This isn't rocket science bro
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    Maybe they are busy working their retail job on non-holidays. This isn't rocket science bro
    Are you seriously taking the position that Walmart/retail employees literally have zero days off?
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    Are you seriously taking the position that Walmart/retail employees literally have zero days off?
    Nope. I'm saying families gather on holidays. For many families, it is hard to get everyone together very often. Thanksgiving is one of the best days to do this.
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    Maybe they are busy working their retail job on non-holidays. This isn't rocket science bro
    Retail employees don't work 365 days per year.
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    Are you seriously taking the position that Walmart/retail employees literally have zero days off?
    How many of those days align perfectly with nearly every family member they have?

    I have no problem with Black Friday. If businesses want to open at 6am or what have you, fine. I have no problem with that. It still allows employees to spend time with their families. But when you start cutting into someone's family/holiday time so you can get an hours leg up on a competitor that's pretty bad. Sure, business is business but family is family. It's not like Thanksgiving is some new fangled holiday.
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    War on Thanksgiving!
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