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Old 08-16-2016, 08:28 AM   #31
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Would probably be my choice for American pitcher as well. Maybe Bob Gibson though because not only did he dominate people with his pitching, but I don't think anyone even wanted to get into the batter's box while he was pitching.
During the steroid era is what sets him, Pedro, Randy Johnson, Glavine, Smoltz, etc above today's pitchers imo.

Kinda hard to pick one person from a team sport though, I'd probably go with Phelps or Jack.



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    Re: Most Dominating American Sports Figures Ever

    Phelps dominated (is dominating??) his sport for longer than Tiger did and he has earned the highest accomplishment for his sport so many more times than whoever the second best swimmer is that it's ridiculous, Tiger won't ever have the most majors
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    Re: Most Dominating American Sports Figures Ever

    Besides those already mentioned,

    For their times...

    Honus Wagner
    Jesse Owens
    Jackie Robinson
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    Old 08-16-2016, 08:38 AM   #35
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    Also Lou Merloni
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    Old 08-16-2016, 08:40 AM   #36
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    Phelps dominated (is dominating??) his sport for longer than Tiger did and he has earned the highest accomplishment for his sport so many more times than whoever the second best swimmer is that it's ridiculous, Tiger won't ever have the most majors
    Not a Tiger fan but he changed the game of golf. When he arrived on the scene, he blew entire fields away in majors and scoring records at the Masters and won the US open like 15 shots, didn't he? They had to rebuild Augusta because of him. He changed the way golfers trained and prepared to beat him.

    I think you are short changing Tiger's impact for the game of golf both professionally and for the weekend warrior. The impact off the course off Phelps can't touch what Tiger did. He grew the game more than anyone in just about any sport, arguably. Only guy close in my lifetime is Gretzky and what he did in hockey.
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    I appreciate that salryx but that doesn't really say much about "dominating," it says more about "influential," which isn't really the same thing.
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    Old 08-16-2016, 08:45 AM   #39
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    Old 08-16-2016, 08:47 AM   #40
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    Not a Tiger fan but he changed the game of golf. When he arrived on the scene, he blew entire fields away in majors and scoring records at the Masters and won the US open like 15 shots, didn't he? They had to rebuild Augusta because of him. He changed the way golfers trained and prepared to beat him.

    I think you are short changing Tiger's impact for the game of golf both professionally and for the weekend warrior. The impact off the course off Phelps can't touch what Tiger did. He grew the game more than anyone in just about any sport, arguably. Only guy close in my lifetime is Gretzky and what he did in hockey.

    I get what he did, I'm a huge golf fan and player myself, but we aren't talking about growing the game we are talking about dominating it. Tiger is arguably the most dominant golfer of all time, there is no argument when it comes to Phelps.
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    If you're not letting PED users on the list then you shouldn't let Brady on the list. Cheaters are cheaters.
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    Old 08-16-2016, 08:56 AM   #42
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    I get what he did, I'm a huge golf fan and player myself, but we aren't talking about growing the game we are talking about dominating it. Tiger is arguably the most dominant golfer of all time, there is no argument when it comes to Phelps.
    Fair point about growing vs dominating which is the topic. Of course, there can be an argument for Phelps and vote for someone like Johnny Weissmuller . I mean, I'd vote for Phelps still but Weissmuller's career is legendary.

    From wikipedia:

    He won fifty-two U.S. National Championships, set more than fifty world records (spread over both freestyle and backstroke),[3] and was purportedly undefeated in official competition for the entirety of his competitive career.
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    Re: Most Dominating American Sports Figures Ever

    Babe Ruth or Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
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    Old 08-16-2016, 09:02 AM   #44
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    He is top 10, for sure. Good call.
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    Re: Most Dominating American Sports Figures Ever

    Real answer is Man O' War or Secretariat
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    Phil Hellmuth deserves some consideration as well.
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    always the horse people
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    Mike Tyson
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    Wayne Gretzky.

    He'd still be the NHL's all-time leading scorer even if he never scored a single goal.
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    Phelps, Lou Merloni, Brink
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    Real answer is Man O' War or Secretariat
    Said secretariat on page 1. I agree.

    If espn put it in the top 10 of the sportscentury top 100, it has to be considered.
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    Old 08-16-2016, 09:23 AM   #53
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    It's almost like everyone is intentionally forgetting male's double badminton, so let me remind everyone of Tony Gunawan

    Also Karch Kiraly and Kerri Walsh
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    Wayne Gretzky.

    He'd still be the NHL's all-time leading scorer even if he never scored a single goal.
    so, NORTH american sports figures, then?
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    so, NORTH american sports figures, then?
    Did not realize we were referencing nationality. Guess I should have read the OP.
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    I dont see anyone ahead of Phelps
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    Old 08-16-2016, 09:37 AM   #57
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    To go old school and to stay within the olympics theme, too, how about

    Jim Thorpe
    Edwin Moses
    Carl Lewis
    Jackie Joyner Kersie.
    Mark Spitz
    Jesse Owens.
    Definitely Jim Thorpe. Here's a great, but sad article about him (from ESPN no less.)

    http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/sto...ontinues-today

    Also, if we put Tiger on the list, what about Jack Nicklaus?
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    If we're talking Americans who fundamentally changed their sport, Babe, Tiger, Jordan, and Phelps have to be at the top.
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    Old 08-16-2016, 10:15 AM   #59
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    How did Phelps change the sport? Did he invent a new stroke I am not aware of? Phelps deserves the title of the best Olympic Athlete of all time, but really shouldn't be on this list.
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    we're not talking about changing the sport, just dominance. 27 medals out of a possible 30 finals is pretty dominant (I think those are the stats)
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