Originally Posted by earl
What you have there going into the g minor is the same thing i have just down an octave. I'm assuming Dave plays it there cause I have never ever seen him play a full barre chord like 355333. He could be. In Broken Things he voices an Em7 like 0-10-9-0-7-0, which I've never seen him do before. I assumed (incorrectly) that he was playing 075x8x cause that's how he traditionally plays the chord (#41, WWYG etc). I'm not pretending that my tab is exactly what he's playing, I just wanted to put something out there for people to have and build on. Also, I'm playing this solo without a full band behind me, so in some areas I might be embellishing, trying to represent what the whole band is doing rather than playing Dave's part 100% accurately. It's a great song, no one had tabbed it, so I took a stab at it. Your tab is great by the way. Between the two of them, people should have a pretty good idea of how to play it, and when it finally is played live, we'll know for sure.
On a side note, does anyone know what the hell ever did happen to dmbtabs.com? It's great to see davetabs picking up where it left off, just curious . . .
I was heavily involved at dmbtabs.com WAY back when as gcom007. I posted a few of my tabs there a couple days ago but from the looks of things, it seems to be mostly deserted. I'm guessing the guy who ran it, JKanter, moved on to other things. I know he and I were talking about doing some other tab-oriented stuff for other artists, but I got plenty busy with my own life and never moved forward, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was a similar situation for him.
I certainly appreciate the point you made about playing these things differently depending on the setting. When I make tabs, I go for pure accuracy for the sake of understanding exactly what's going on, but if I were to actually play these songs with or without a band, I would do so VERY differently. What Dave does doesn't always make sense or sound best for everybody who might play it. And it's important to remember that while Dave is a very creative guitarist who has written a plethora of great material, he's not a technically strong guitarist nor an incredibly knowledgable guitarist. Thus, it's reasonable to suggest that there may be "better" ways to do things, and by "better" I mean either less physically stressful (no one likes carpal tunnel syndrome...) or fuller sounding.
And it's also worth noting that tabbing Dave's part from studio recordings is an exceedingly difficult job at times because Tim is also in the mix either doubling Dave's part on acoustic or playing something that is very similar to it that makes it sound as if Dave is doing something that he's not. On top of that, even when Tim doubles, he tends to cheat a bit less, as in, he actually will play the full barre chords, so you hear them, but it's next to impossible to know if Dave is playing them or not. Dave does indeed play full barre chords at times though as evidenced by live recordings. While he certainly tends to stick to 4-note voicings based on barre chords, at times he does play the full barre chord. I'd say it's more common when he's playing a minor barre chord off of the E string as you pretty much have to play a barre chord to get the b3 note necessary for the minor chord.
Another thing to keep in mind that a lot of the gospel surrounding Dave's guitar method is pretty inaccurate, and I'll blame Kanter and dmbtabs.com for that as much as anyone. He and I argued a few times about over-reliance on video footage to tab things out, when there was plenty in the footage that wasn't always clear visually. It's vitally important to use your ears first and your eyes second, as videos don't always account for open strings or exactly what string a finger is on. There's a lot of assumptions made about what Dave does that simply aren't true, and it's mostly because a lot of inaccurate tabs have been floating around for years that are based on the same bag of guitar tricks. It's minor stuff, but in general, I'd say don't assume too much, as much of what even seems reasonable to assume after all this time is still inaccurate.