Stefan's Twitter

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by jas230314

1) why do you all think I want recognition? To be cool on an internet forum devoted to, of all things, the Dave Matthews band?? I corrected you, not because I care about what you think, but because large parts were just not factual.

2) you must not have read my response or not comprehended it. The knowledge it had been rehearsed (you assume I didn't know the people with whom this info was shared) that summer was why I started the campaign.

3) you said the twitter campaign had no effect because you spoke to someone on 11/17 or 11/18 and that person mentioned it had been rehearsed. Considering Dave teased the song twice the show prior to cville and the sheer amount of people tweeting Stefan that maybe it had an impact?

4) it was a twitter campaign for one song - the entire cville thread that year narrowed it down from a song list I made (Blue Water was a close #2). When I reference the # of tweets, those were tweets that mentioned spoon and no other song, all with the same hashtag.

5) what makes me laugh most is that you and others like dmbzilla - who used to be very kind to me - claim I seek recognition when your entire argument is that you, "and those in the know" spoke to a source, therefore thousands of tweets could not have been heard.

If anything, you're seeking recognition if not for anything but knowing "someone in management". If anyone deserves recognition, it's thousands of people who tweeted to Stefan.

And fyi - more than a couple people who would be "in the know" have PMed me asking to start other twitter campaigns and I have always declined.

I'm glad you numbered your points so I can quickly calculate that's five more things nobody gives a fuck about.

[Roose13]

[dthree]

Originally Posted by SpotlightEyes

Relevant thought: Why do two night stands exist? So that certain fans in certain cities get to see two shows instead of one? Or because they are in popular areas with a high density of fans, and need to provide two opportunities to see them?

I'm pretty sure it is the latter, even though DMB has been kind enough and realistic enough in the past to treat two night stands as mostly the same crowd.

With this point, can you explain why the Gorge get 3 nights? Seattle is the closest big city and it isn't even in the top 20 largest cities in the US.

[SpotlightEyes]

Originally Posted by dthree

With this point, can you explain why the Gorge get 3 nights? Seattle is the closest big city and it isn't even in the top 20 largest cities in the US.

Gorge is popular destination venue, no? People travel from all over to attend shows there. I would say its the same deal, just slightly different circumstance.

[YankeesDMB41]

Originally Posted by Jordan#41

Somebody block this clown.

Originally Posted by highlanders

you're a dick

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

Was that really a post?

Originally Posted by Jtr132

That is so fucked up

Originally Posted by BJisBA41

I agree.


I think if anyone tweets Stefan, just tell him to ask Dave to stop repeating 8-10 songs from night to night, thus creating more variety

I'm sorry, I didn't think I would get the Michael Richards treatment for that

Originally Posted by vegeevore

This is one of the best stats I've seen this year. This is what should be tweeted to Stefan to help him understand our viewpoint.

Thank you, it took a while to compile it, but I think it really shows how unvaried the sets are this year

Originally Posted by SpotlightEyes

This would be true.

Yes it is

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by jas230314

what makes me laugh most is that you and others like dmbzilla - who used to be very kind to me - claim I seek recognition when your entire argument is that you, "and those in the know" spoke to a source, therefore thousands of tweets could not have been heard.

I have nothing against you at all man, but to say you aren't seeking recognition when you've had something about it in your sig for four years? Come on now.

They played Halloween at PSU in 2000 solely because of my sign, which I think is pretty fucking cool. If you think you had an impact own that shit.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

They played Halloween at PSU in 2000 solely because of my sign, which I think is pretty fucking cool. If you think you had an impact own that shit.

What happened? I don't think I've heard this story.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

What happened? I don't think I've heard this story.

Sounds like he brought a Halloween sign and it got played

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

Sounds like he brought a Halloween sign and it got played

I meant was there more to it than that, like Dave recognizing the sign and immediately playing it, or saying something before hand, or something.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

I meant was there more to it than that, like Dave recognizing the sign and immediately playing it, or saying something before hand, or something.

I know I'm just poking fun

[pgapro]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

I posted this in another thread, but I wanna post it here to support the non-ballwasher side

There are only 15 songs from this tour that were not played last tour

You Never Know
Good Good Time
Pay
Back You Up
Beach Ball
Red Bird
Whiter Shade
Burning Down
Sledgehammer
Raven
American Baby
Rye Whiskey
Stolen Away
Minarets
Christmas Song

out of those 15, 4 are not dmb songs, 3 of them are Dave Solo's, and 4 more have been played 3 times of less...Leaving Minarets, Stolen Away, GGT, Pay, and IBYU as our only 5 DMB songs that are in "heavy rotation" (5 or more plays) this tour that were not played in 2013 (Minarets and GGT being the only of those five appearing in the electric sets.)

So for those that feel that the 2014 electric sets are unvaried and look exactly the same as last year, they would be right, because the only two songs that were not played last tour that have showed up more than 3 times in the electric sets are minarets and GGT, which is really fucking sad. This shows me that they are only playing what they're familiar with and have no real desire to dig deep and take risks.

Good post. I am on the other side of the fence but you present a good argument for the lack of variety in the setlists.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

Sounds like he brought a Halloween sign and it got played

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by SpotlightEyes

Gorge is popular destination venue, no? People travel from all over to attend shows there. I would say its the same deal, just slightly different circumstance.

You think Gorge is 3 nights so that everyone is able to see one show?

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

I'm glad you numbered your points so I can quickly calculate that's five more things nobody gives a fuck about.

I don't know you, but I hope you get the dirty nasties for a month after this incredible post. A++, would definitely read again.

[chyeachyea552]

Originally Posted by Bo(w)theDropsFan

I don't know you, but I hope you get the dirty nasties for a month after this incredible post. A++, would definitely read again.

This lol but nothing against jas

[chyeachyea552]

God I don't know how anyone can make the argument "the newer songs.. play better..?"

what tf does that mean you ask? Well, kind sirs, it means that this band is indeed fucked.. because they won't practice. Honestly, how hard is it to play songs that you, yourself wrote. Yes... Leroi died, and Butch is gone, and now there's Jeff, and Rashawn, and Boyd's [pubes/] hands, and yattayattayatta blahblahblahhhh.

The fact of the matter is, the band, whether Dave or Stefan, is mailing in setlists. The band started with the acoustic sound! Now you're telling me they can only pull under 40 unique songs out in the acoustic sets PLUS only 3 songs played more than 5 times that didn't appear last year in the electric set...!!! are you kidding? I was at SPAC so I made it out before Hurricane Lovely Lady touched down. But Bela was the only bright light I saw. I was trying to defend the band earlier this year, but it has gotten down right stale for being able to potentially put 30 songs in a set a night.

When two night stands receive more unique plays (45 or so songs) then the almost 40 acoustic shows (38 unique songs), there is a problem. It's not that we're owed anything, but I think this quote says it best and may have been over looked...

Originally Posted by bowa36

Do some people just not see this band's full potential?

This. We (many of the ants I see thousands of posts from and converse with daily...) probably know the band too well for our own good, yet, at the same know their full potential better than anyone due to countless tapes. I'm sure we all have a our own favorite years, but I guarantee they're pre-2001 or certainly pre-2005.

When you're DMB, you must live up to your own name. This band needs to prove to me that they are still the best live act in town. Or I will continue to go to fewer shows and happily shell 1/3 of the price for a Umphrey's ticket.

My $.02 /rant

[TrippinNancies1]

This website has gone crazy the past few weeks

[chyeachyea552]

Originally Posted by TrippinNancies1

This website has gone crazy the past few weeks

yup, then I joined in on it.

But the part of it that irks me is the .1% comment when we make up more than that of the fanbase, but also, we're the people that pay at least 60% of their revenue through multi-show tickets, vip passes, deluxe editions the average fan would never get, all the live trax/dmblive.

WE ARE BIGGER THAN THE .1%!!!!!!!!1!!!

[bowa36]

I wish I could be less critical about this band because I fucking love them but it's just frustrating and confusing seeing the tour unfold like this

[american_baby14]

Originally Posted by bowa36

I wish I could be less critical about this band because I fucking love them but it's just frustrating and confusing seeing the tour unfold like this

Because we know they can play better stuff than what they've been playing lately. I love the band too don't get me wrong but they have other songs to play besides "the usual & predictable sets."

[Crews194]

I love that people can get so worked up over such mundane nonsense.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by Bo(w)theDropsFan

I don't know you, but I hope you get the dirty nasties for a month after this incredible post. A++, would definitely read again.

lol

[ThatLetter]

Originally Posted by Crews194

I love that people can get so worked up over such mundane nonsense.

I paid good money to see just 3 shows in Florida (Jax and N1&N2 WPB). The Jax show was fine. Nothing earth shattering but I left feeling satisfied by the 25 song show. By the end of N2 (just 3 days after Jax) they had repeated 21 songs from Jax. That's not okay. That's lazy. The encore N2 was 2/3 the same as Jax and the one they didn't repeat there closed the night before iirc. It's not mundane to feel like you aren't getting value for your money. If I buy a product and am unhappy with the performace of it, I have the right to get worked up. Feeling ripped off isn't nonsense. This band is ripping people off who go to multiple shows this summer. Those people are keeping the venues full and keeping them from playing the Holiday Inn by the interstate. And the band (Dave) doesn't give one big fat shit.

[WhoDidIt?]

Originally Posted by Crews194

I love that people can get so worked up over such mundane nonsense.

Not sure if serious . . . So


. . . . . ?

[Crews194]

Talking about the whole Spoon twiiter nonsense.

[TheLastPig]

The whole playing at hotel talk is nonsense and completely misguided. While I agree with the large majority of the complaints this summer, there is no way this band will ever be playing "at the holiday Inn by the interstate"

[ThatLetter]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

The whole playing at hotel talk is nonsense and completely misguided. While I agree with the large majority of the complaints this summer, there is no way this band will ever be playing "at the holiday Inn by the interstate"

Really?

It's meant as a metaphor.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by opshannon

Really?

It's meant as a metaphor.

You seem to be the only person meaning it as a metaphor. It's been tossed around here the last two weeks way too nonchalantly by many people.

[crashintonickdm]

DMB will be in smaller venues in the next 5 years.

[ThatLetter]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

You seem to be the only person meaning it as a metaphor. It's been tossed around here the last two weeks way too nonchalantly by many people.

I find it hard to believe that anyone uses that phrase in a literal sense around here. I mean what Holiday Inn in what part of America has live music?! It's not 1974.