**NCAA Basketball Thread**

[Jake]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Every year the legacy the day after the game is supposedly going to be the officiating. It never actually is the legacy.

Awwww... That's adorable.


Let's talk Pittsburgh/Seattle SB. Anything come to mind?

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Jake

Awwww... That's adorable.


Let's talk Pittsburgh/Seattle SB. Anything come to mind?

yea, Seattle fans bitching and moaning.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Since I'm in the cbb thread, I was talking about cbb. But yes, people do remember that football game for things the referees did.

[kydmb99]

The feel good story of the day.. Dave Bliss is back in college basketball

[YouNeverKnow25]

attempting to cover up a murder def embodies the verbal inspiration of the Bible

[Jake]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Since I'm in the cbb thread, I was talking about cbb. But yes, people do remember that football game for things the referees did.

So the day after & 10 years later.


And the 85 WS too. Should have been StL in 6.



You are kidding yourself if you don't think it's a tainted title. Sorry. Duke could have still won, but we will never know how it would have played out without 4 refs missing what a 15 share watching saw

[YouNeverKnow25]

thus spake zeus. by divine fiat, everyone shall forever and always remember this title as wholly tainted, and thus bearing upon it the badge of the dreaded **

[cazzie34]

Badgers played like garbage outside of Kaminsky. Guard play did Wisconsin in on the defensive end. While there was a foul discrepancy in the second half, badgers got Okafor and Winslow in foul trouble so we couldn't ask for much more than that. Once Okafor picked up his 4th we should have just been pounding it down low.

Disappointed in all the bitching the players and coaches are doing last night and today about the refs. Gotta be above that.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Jake

So the day after & 10 years later.


And the 85 WS too. Should have been StL in 6.



You are kidding yourself if you don't think it's a tainted title. Sorry. Duke could have still won, but we will never know how it would have played out without 4 refs missing what a 15 share watching saw

explain again how last night's game and SB40 are analogous?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

thus spake zeus. by divine fiat, everyone shall forever and always remember this title as wholly tainted, and thus bearing upon it the badge of the dreaded **

Duke*



Coach K has 4 1/2 titles

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by Jake

the legacy of the 2015 national title game is 'technology failed'.

it's ridiculous they couldn't get it right

but i don't think it's the legacy of the game, at least not in my mind

[Jake]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

explain again how last night's game and SB40 are analogous?

Blown calls facilitated a victory. Specifically blowing a replay

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Jake

Blown calls facilitated a victory. Specifically blowing a replay

yea, this is just lazy excuse making to me

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea, this is just lazy excuse making to me

my first thought of the game is that WI blew a 9 point lead with 12 mins to play

[Jake]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

it's ridiculous they couldn't get it right

but i don't think it's the legacy of the game, at least not in my mind

It's 63-58 with 1:51 to go. If Wisconsin hits a 3- & they did on their next possession - it's 63-61 with between 1:49 & 1:21 (when they actually hit the 3).

Duke could have still won but we know for sure that the blown call did facilitate the victory

[Jake]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea, this is just lazy excuse making to me

No. It's truth.


Glad your team won, but it's tainted


Duke*

[mandy18]

I think it's just disappointing overall that calls like this are such a big conversation the next day. Duke didn't win just b/c of officiating, though it certainly didn't hurt them and I can see an argument being made that had that call been properly overturned through replay, the outcome could have been different. Overall, there were plenty of opportunities for Wisconsin to win, they just didn't do what they needed to.

I hate when officials have too much say in the last few minutes of a game, especially when they can't get it right. And, there's no excuse for getting it wrong when the play is reviewed. There isn't a single person out there that could honestly say they got that call right. People may want to believe that, but they wouldn't be honest.

I don't think it will be the legacy of the game; but I also cannot stand that poor officiating is such a big story the next day (week, etc.). There's just really no excuse for it. The story should be that Duke was the better team last night. Period. Wisconsin blew it, Duke won. Not "well, they won but ...."

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

my first thought of the game is that WI blew a 9 point lead with 12 mins to play

exactly this

Originally Posted by Jake

No. It's truth.


Glad your team won, but it's tainted


Duke*

now you're just trolling

[Jake]

Originally Posted by mandy18

I think it's just disappointing overall that calls like this are such a big conversation the next day. Duke didn't win just b/c of officiating, though it certainly didn't hurt them and I can see an argument being made that had that call been properly overturned through replay, the outcome could have been different. Overall, there were plenty of opportunities for Wisconsin to win, they just didn't do what they needed to.

I hate when officials have too much say in the last few minutes of a game, especially when they can't get it right. And, there's no excuse for getting it wrong when the play is reviewed. There isn't a single person out there that could honestly say they got that call right. People may want to believe that, but they wouldn't be honest.

I don't think it will be the legacy of the game; but I also cannot stand that poor officiating is such a big story the next day (week, etc.). There's just really no excuse for it. The story should be that Duke was the better team last night. Period. Wisconsin blew it, Duke won. Not "well, they won but ...."

Wisconsin blew it.


but Wisconsin could have been down 2 with 1:21 to go at the least had refs not misused replay. And teams have been down 2 after blowing big leads and won, so I don't know what would have happened from that point.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

exactly this



now you're just trolling

nope. I'm being realistic. You're being "well, we won, so that's that."



Duke was gifted a win by a blown replay. They might have won regardless, but the blown replay gifted them the win.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Jake

nope. I'm being realistic. You're being "well, we won, so that's that."



Duke was gifted a win by a blown replay. They might have won regardless, but the blown replay gifted them the win.

if you think that a couple borderline calls in SB40 cost the Seahawks 11 points, you're an idiot.

if you think 2 missed out of bounds plays in last night's game caused the Badgers to blow a late lead, you're an idiot

hows that for realistic?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

if you think that a couple borderline calls in SB40 cost the Seahawks 11 points, you're an idiot.

if you think 2 missed out of bounds plays in last night's game caused the Badgers to blow a late lead, you're an idiot

hows that for realistic?

Whoa! What's with the name calling?


Rothesberger was down on the 1st TD QB sneak. That's 7 pts. Blown PI had Seattle in FG range. That's 3.


Can I say Pittsburgh was gif 10 pts? Yep

[DMBCardinal]

I hate the Steelers and Duke.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Originally Posted by DMBCardinal

I hate the Steelers and Duke.

yeah me too

playing the "but the refs!11!!!" card makes you (royal you) sound like an nc state fan though

[DMBCardinal]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

yeah me too

playing the "but the refs!11!!!" card makes you (royal you) sound like an nc state fan though

No doubt, but it is frustrating when the review shows that the refs clearly made the wrong call. If the announcer's can get it right, why can't the refs?

[Rodey]

I also find it funny that Bo says he doesn't do rent-a-players when he was all in on Diamond Stone.

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

thus spake zeus. by divine fiat, everyone shall forever and always remember this title as wholly tainted, and thus bearing upon it the badge of the dreaded **

[Jake]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

yeah me too

playing the "but the refs!11!!!" card makes you (royal you) sound like an nc state fan though

Not the refs. The replay specifically

[thebridge15]

they should get rid of replay for next year. if you aren't going to use it why waste everyone's time?

[UNC41]

Originally Posted by RJ2kWJ

Coach K adapted to the game, BIG TIME.

Him coaching the USA team had to have a big part of this. Being able to tell frosh players that they can win.

K has done an excellent job using his USA coaching gig into recruiting leverage that no other coach has.

Originally Posted by AJF_41

my first thought of the game is that WI blew a 9 point lead with 12 mins to play

Yup. Wisconsin put the game out there for Duke to take, and Tyus did just that.

Originally Posted by Rodey

I also find it funny that Bo says he doesn't do rent-a-players when he was all in on Diamond Stone.

Bo is the worst. The absolute worst.

[UNC41]

Originally Posted by Jake

the legacy will be "Coach K got handed his 5th". When people think of the Duke/Butler National title game they don't think of all the FF that Butler missed in the last 10 mins, they think of Hayword missing the 3 from half court. No one remembers that Michigan was up 2 vs UNC in 93 with 5 mins to go, they recall Webber calling a TO with none left.


the legacy of the 2015 national title game is 'technology failed'.

No one remembers that Michigan was down 2 when Webber called time out either. The TO cost them a chance to win the game, not the game like people remember.