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Old 04-07-2015, 08:45 AM   #78421
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Jones can easily play his way into the top 10, or lottery at the least. He's a very good distributor who doesn't turn it over much and was streaky from a scoring standpoint. Regardless of what he may become, he can play his way towards a higher pick.

It's not like he'll hurt his stock staying.
How is he going to get better than how he ended this year?

He was thought to be a first round pick, he played awesome on the biggest stage possible. He could only Leinhart himself going forward.
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    jones should take a hard look at the contrasting decisions of ed cota and kendall marshall before letting scouts get another season's worth of looks at an under-sized mediocre athlete (relatively speaking)

    Bigger is in, but I don't think that's going to prevent teams from taking a guy like Jones in the lottery. Not to mention 2016 isn't looking that strong.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 08:48 AM   #78423
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    Re: Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

    Pretty sure people said the same thing about Trey Burke. A team took him 9th.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 08:51 AM   #78424
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    What lottery teams need a backup pg?
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    Old 04-07-2015, 08:51 AM   #78425
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    trey burke just passed tyus jones from behind on the break
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    Old 04-07-2015, 08:54 AM   #78426
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    I also find it funny that Bo says he doesn't do rent-a-players when he was all in on Diamond Stone.
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    I don't think anyone actually does, but Badger fans will always argue to the grave about how Bo doesn't recruit one-and-dones and that he does it the right way by educating the kids for the future!!!!!
    He was talking about 5th year players being eligible for immediate transfer, not one and dones. I disagree with Bo on that issue as well but I figure I should defend him on Stone since he is consistent regarding that.

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    Old 04-07-2015, 09:05 AM   #78427
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    Re: Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

    If Jones can sneak into the top 10 he'd be insane to come back for another year.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 09:05 AM   #78428
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    Re: Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

    Duke is gonna have like six scholarship players next season. Don't see how anyone could project them to do anything. UK, UNC and Virginia will be the teams to beat next season IMO.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 09:18 AM   #78429
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    Duke is gonna have like six scholarship players next season. Don't see how anyone could project them to do anything. UK, UNC and Virginia will be the teams to beat next season IMO.

    They just won with 8.

    If Jones stays (or Thornton reclassifies and chooses Duke) and they land Ingram, they'll be fine.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 09:40 AM   #78430
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    Tyus has no reason to stay. His draft stock will never be higher. Best case, he's Deron Williams. He'll probably end up being a career backup though. He's Chris Duhon, but not even as fast as he was.

    Jared Sullinger fucked his draft stock by staying a second year. Jones should and will be smarter.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 09:50 AM   #78431
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    head of officiating says that the refs didn't see the angle that clearly showed it was off winslow

    hopefully he's lying to cover his ass but that's pretty pathetic
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    Old 04-07-2015, 09:58 AM   #78432
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    Tyus has no reason to stay. His draft stock will never be higher. Best case, he's Deron Williams. He'll probably end up being a career backup though. He's Chris Duhon, but not even as fast as he was.

    Jared Sullinger fucked his draft stock by staying a second year. Jones should and will be smarter.
    Sullinger was a consensus top-5 pick. Jones is a guy who, at best, may sneak into the lottery this year.

    Staying another year is not going to expose anything scouts already have concerns about. Read: size
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    Old 04-07-2015, 10:04 AM   #78433
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    head of officiating says that the refs didn't see the angle that clearly showed it was off winslow

    hopefully he's lying to cover his ass but that's pretty pathetic
    It felt like during the broadcast that the analysts didn't see that angle until just like seconds before the refs decided to make the no-call. It felt to me they showed a LOT of non-conclusive angles, and then the second they showed the one, it was like, oh, but no call.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 10:12 AM   #78434
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    Re: Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

    Dakari Johnson to decide by the end of the week. He seems like a good kid but he was absolutely awful this season.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 10:15 AM   #78435
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    Sullinger was a consensus top-5 pick. Jones is a guy who, at best, may sneak into the lottery this year.

    Staying another year is not going to expose anything scouts already have concerns about. Read: size
    Is he going to get taller by staying another year? What can he possibly do to improve his stock?
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    Old 04-07-2015, 10:33 AM   #78436
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    Once you earn the nickname Tyus Stones, you've accomplished all you need to in college.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 10:39 AM   #78437
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    Old 04-07-2015, 11:42 AM   #78438
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    Dakari Johnson to decide by the end of the week. He seems like a good kid but he was absolutely awful this season.
    Why he would declare I have no idea. His post game was awful and he has two better bigs from his own team declaring. If he came back he could potentially work on his game and get big minutes. I bet he leaves just like everybody else will.
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    Old 04-07-2015, 12:17 PM   #78440
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    Say what you will about the new one and done era, but I think it has brought much needed excitement to a stale product. If the NBA ever proposed the 20 year limit, would these kids flee to China or do ya'll think they would still decide on college?
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    Say what you will about the new one and done era, but I think it has brought much needed excitement to a stale product. If the NBA ever proposed the 20 year limit, would these kids flee to China or do ya'll think they would still decide on college?
    I wish they would follow the MLB model slightly. Kids can declare and get drafted after high school, but if you go to college you have to stay at least two or three years.

    Use the d-league as an actual minor league.
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    they'd still decide on college. tough to build a #brand in america when you're half a world away playing for a team that whose box scores aren't run in any american newspapers

    EDIT: over China. a functional D-League might be a good option if they could fix the issues there.

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    Old 04-07-2015, 12:23 PM   #78443
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    The "baseball model" is an absolutely awful idea. Probably more unfair than what's currently in place.
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    they'd still decide on college. tough to build a #brand in america when you're half a world away playing for a team that whose box scores aren't run in any american newspapers

    EDIT: over China. a functional D-League might be a good option if they could fix the issues there.
    God that would make for terrible television. I want the best athletes excelling in the college game.
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    The "baseball model" is an absolutely awful idea. Probably more unfair than what's currently in place.
    Why's that?
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    Why's that?
    Well mostly I just think it would lead to more fringe level talents making really bad decisions. I think a lot of these kids would rather take a gamble on making an NBA roster out of high school than be forced to go to college for 3 years regardless of how well they perform as freshmen or sophomores. This would be bad for the kids, college basketball and the NBA IMO. Take DeAngelo Russell for instance. I don't remember him being a projected top 5 pick before he went to Ohio State. Why should he have to stay at Ohio State for another two years because of a decision he made before he showed how good he actually was?

    Basically I just think it's terribly unfair to the players to force them to make a multi year agreement to a school when they have no idea what their NBA stock will be. I think it would lead to a lot of kids jumping straight out of HS that shouldn't be which like I said, is bad for them, college basketball and the NBA.

    Maybe I'm missing something and there is more good than bad, I just think it would be a disaster.
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    Well mostly I just think it would lead to more fringe level talents making really bad decisions. I think a lot of these kids would rather take a gamble on making an NBA roster out of high school than be forced to go to college for 3 years regardless of how well they perform as freshmen or sophomores. This would be bad for the kids, college basketball and the NBA IMO. Take DeAngelo Russell for instance. I don't remember him being a projected top 5 pick before he went to Ohio State. Why should he have to stay at Ohio State for another two years because of a decision he made before he showed how good he actually was?

    Basically I just think it's terribly unfair to the players to force them to make a multi year agreement to a school when they have no idea what their NBA stock will be. I think it would lead to a lot of kids jumping straight out of HS that shouldn't be which like I said, is bad for them, college basketball and the NBA.

    Maybe I'm missing something and there is more good than bad, I just think it would be a disaster.
    I think out of high school, either NBA or two years would make the most sense. I don't think its fair that high school kids don't have the option to go straight to the league, not everyone wants to go to college. Some of these guys have been training to play pro ball. Some are going to make bad decisions, yes, but at least they have the choice. And then if they decide to go to school, they are committed to two years, so schools and college basketball get a little more from it too.

    Maybe they could make the same stipulation that MLB has, where you can go back if you are unhappy with where you are drafted.

    I just think there is a better model somewhere than the current.
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    God I wanna vomit. Thanks Wisconsin. I guess Duke does white better than the whitest school in America.
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