Better Primetime NFL Duo?

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

not doable, not realistic

the league has lucrative deals with 4 networks (NBC, CBS, FOX, ESPN) which means they also have deals with each of those networks' announcers

the networks wouldn't allow the NFL to do it, probably citing a breach of contract because the TV rights are most likely exclusive

What if they worked with those networks and offered it as a subscription streaming option? So you go to the network website and stream the game without announcers. It's a niche market but I think it would be a profitable one. It wouldn't really deter most fans from watching regular broadcasts. If you're watching with your family then you would absolutely watch the tv broadcast, if you're by yourself or with your buddies you might watch the uncensored stream.

[Keyz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

not doable, not realistic

the league has lucrative deals with 4 networks (NBC, CBS, FOX, ESPN) which means they also have deals with each of those networks' announcers

the networks wouldn't allow the NFL to do it, probably citing a breach of contract because the TV rights are most likely exclusive

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

Why couldn't they? If they offered a separate channel, like RedZone, and charge for it.

It would certainly give them some major leverage when negotiating announcer contracts if it proved popular.

exactly what sbuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz said.

Originally Posted by luccic12

Uh I doubt the league would want their players being totally unfiltered one the field being heard to millions of people

it would obviously be tagged with a label that denoted suggestive language. this wouldn't be something dads would watch with their 10 year olds. that what the major TV stations are for.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

Why couldn't they? If they offered a separate channel, like RedZone, and charge for it.

It would certainly give them some major leverage when negotiating announcer contracts if it proved popular.

RedZone still uses the actual feeds from the network broadcasts

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Keyz

exactly what sbuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz said.

again, RedZone uses the actual network feeds

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

RedZone still uses the actual feeds from the network broadcasts

So? Why can't that be changed?

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

again, RedZone uses the actual network feeds

See above.

[Keyz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

again, RedZone uses the actual network feeds

the subscribed "mic'd" versions could still be broadcast through the networks, just at an additional cost. the networks would more than likely see some of that profit, so they'd still be getting their fair share.

to say it's entirely not doable/unrealistic is a little bit ignorant.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

So? Why can't that be changed?

See above.

Originally Posted by Keyz

the subscribed "mic'd" versions could still be broadcast through the networks, just at an additional cost. the networks would more than likely see some of that profit, so they'd still be getting their fair share.

to say it's entirely not doable/unrealistic is a little bit ignorant.

you guys realize that the TV networks PAY the NFL for the rights to broadcast, right? they don't make any money at all from the NFL, they make money by selling advertising slots

these networks can't sell advertisement on another channel

it's not doable....these contracts are iron clad for broadcasting rights

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

you guys realize that the TV networks PAY the NFL for the rights to broadcast, right? they don't make any money at all from the NFL, they make money by selling advertising slots

these networks can't sell advertisement on another channel

it's not doable....these contracts are iron clad for broadcasting rights

I am still not seeing how its not doable. By your logic the RedZone channel does not exist.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

I am still not seeing how its not doable. By your logic the RedZone channel does not exist.

no, because again, RedZone uses the actual network broadcasts

[hailtopitt]

and Redzone doesn't broadcast full games, only live look-ins

not sure how you don't see the difference

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

no, because again, RedZone uses the actual network broadcasts

So, use the network feeds minus the audio from the booth. Done.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

and Redzone doesn't broadcast full games, only live look-ins

not sure how you don't see the difference

So? They would just add a channel for each broadcast sans blubbering booth talk.

Not sure why you think, if there is a buck to be made, the NFL would be against it.

[hailtopitt]

i never said the NFL was against making a buck

i'm saying the networks would fight this. they have a lot of money invested into NFL TV rights and to me, the idea is great but it sounds like a clear breach of contract

announcers are a part of the deal

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

announcers are a part of the deal

Bad deal then.

Sure, I'm guessing it would have to be discussed, I'm not saying it wouldn't, but it could be done. Especially if there was an additional charge.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

Bad deal then.

Sure, I'm guessing it would have to be discussed, I'm not saying it wouldn't, but it could be done. Especially if there was an additional charge.

if it could be done, it wouldn't be until 2022 which is when the current TV deals expire

and i don't see it ever happening because networks are willing to pay so much for exclusive rights

[hailtopitt]

to be clear, i love the idea though...there's just no way of it ever happening in the NFL

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

if it could be done, it wouldn't be until 2022 which is when the current TV deals expire

and i don't see it ever happening because networks are willing to pay so much for exclusive rights

I agree it won't happen, but I think its because networks actually think its a better product with the announcing.

Networks are dumb.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

to be clear, i love the idea though...there's just no way of it ever happening in the NFL

I would love it for all sports, except maybe MLB, I'm not always glued to the TV for every pitch, so having an announcer to let me know when something happened would be helpful sometimes.

Would love the option of switching back and forth between announced channels and non.

[Balor3012]

Its a little thing but NBA league pass having the option to pick which team's announcers you want to listen to is a great feature.

[Speilmen230]

Oh, and in response to the question; give me Terico and Gruden any day of the week.

Love Buck and Aikmen too.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

I agree it won't happen, but I think its because networks actually think its a better product with the announcing.

Networks are dumb.


I would love it for all sports, except maybe MLB, I'm not always glued to the TV for every pitch, so having an announcer to let me know when something happened would be helpful sometimes.

Would love the option of switching back and forth between announced channels and non.

agreed on all fronts

Originally Posted by luccic12

Its a little thing but NBA league pass having the option to pick which team's announcers you want to listen to is a great feature.

yea that's a nice feature

99% of the time, local announcers, no matter which market, who have been around a team for years/decades are miles better than national guys.

[Keyz]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea that's a nice feature

99% of the time, local announcers, no matter which market, who have been around a team for years/decades are miles better than national guys.

Pat Foley is a prime example. when he announces the Blackhawks, it's a blast.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Keyz

Pat Foley is a prime example. when he announces the Blackhawks, it's a blast.

yea same with the Penguins (Mike Lange) and Steelers (Bill Hilgrove & formerly Myron Cope)

[Cscottrun]

Agree with most of what was said.

Idk who Kevin Burkardt is paired with typically, but he is better than most.

[recentlyJTR41]

Can't imagine watching sports without announcers. Would be vary odd.

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

Can't imagine watching sports without announcers. Would be vary odd.

I think you mean very awesome.

[YankeesDMB41]

Fun Fact: Tirico isn't black...google it...he refuses to say he's black

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

Fun Fact: Tirico isn't black...google it...he refuses to say he's black

lmao what in the world, that is weird

[YankeesDMB41]

Look at him.....He claims he's Italian!!! He's CLEARLY black!

[keithcoldroses]

NBC by far.

[keithcoldroses]

Originally Posted by Cscottrun

Agree with most of what was said.

Idk who Kevin Burkardt is paired with typically, but he is better than most.

Kevin is Fox. He owns.

[jrod41]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

I voted michaels/collinsworth but honestly I have no idea why people get so worked up about football announcers. they're there because it's creepy to listen to just ambient crowd noise. beyond that, who cares?

yep, took the words out of my mouth.

i've never been able to get some of the hate people seem to have for sport announcers.