2014/2015 NFL Season

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

i don't see manning getting past buffalo if they sneak into the playoffs.

agreed, the weather gets pretty rough that time of year in western NY

their flight for sure would get cancelled

Originally Posted by Bo(w)theDropsFan

Special teams. I don't think the gap is wide enough on either side of the ball that the Chargers can't beat them, though.

any team can be beat any day in the NFL, that's not saying much

Broncos are better across the board though

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by salrx95

When healthy, secondary and RBs. We have the edge at kicker and punter and TE is damn close as I wonder how much Manning makes Thomas better than he is. That would likely be it.

TE isn't even close anymore...Thomas is elite and Gates is old and basically only a RZ threat

special teams? fine, i guess you can have that one

RBs?? when Ball and Hillman are on point and the passing game is giving them lanes, their just as dangerous as anyone. definitely better than Ryan Mathews

secondaries are pretty equal too, except for safeties. Weddle is awesome

[jrkarger]

Steelers get hot and go into Mile high and beat Peyton in the playoffs. Shades of '05.



You heard it here first.

[ryguy469]

Originally Posted by salrx95

Chargers D was on the field for 40 minutes sunday in a tight , hard fought game. I assume chargers didnt get monday off to recover some. And travel is still travel. Thursday DID factor. And that isn't even considering all the lost practice and prep time to play manning.

Chargers didn't practice on Monday. Don't think any team would be that stupid to practice given your first sentence and the short week. Also, SD plays Manning twice a year. Yes, the more time to prepare the better but this offense has so many weapons not sure SD defense would have done much better given 10 days to prepare.

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

TE isn't even close anymore...Thomas is elite and Gates is old and basically only a RZ threat

special teams? fine, i guess you can have that one

RBs?? when Ball and Hillman are on point and the passing game is giving them lanes, their just as dangerous as anyone. definitely better than Ryan Mathews

secondaries are pretty equal too, except for safeties. Weddle is awesome

Did you see Gates catch on the 3rd and 20 last night? 9 of Thomas' 30 catches are for TDs. Can say the same for him. Gates is averaging 2 more yards per catch, indicating he is getting down the field more.

Yeah, Ball was lighting it up before his injury. Don't forget we lost woodhead too.

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by ryguy469

Chargers didn't practice on Monday. Don't think any team would be that stupid to practice given your first sentence and the short week. Also, SD plays Manning twice a year. Yes, the more time to prepare the better but this offense has so many weapons not sure SD defense would have done much better given 10 days to prepare.

I was hinting that they likely came in for video and tape prep and maybe gameplanning, not to put the pads on. No mental break.

[ryguy469]

If anything, you should be making exscuses for how poorly the O line looked. Denver scores lots of points that just happens. SD couldn't block anyone last night.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by jrkarger

Steelers get hot and go into Mile high and beat Peyton in the playoffs. Shades of '05.



You heard it here first.

yea cause Peyton and Jake "The Snake" Plummer are comparable

Originally Posted by salrx95

Did you see Gates catch on the 3rd and 20 last night? 9 of Thomas' 30 catches are for TDs. Can say the same for him. Gates is averaging 2 more yards per catch, indicating he is getting down the field more.

Yeah, Ball was lighting it up before his injury. Don't forget we lost woodhead too.

Gates is still useful but he's not even close to Thomas...

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by ryguy469

If anything, you should be making exscuses for how poorly the O line looked. Denver scores lots of points that just happens. SD couldn't block anyone last night.

Easily the worst unit of the night. I know the Broncos are improved but that was an awful performance.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea cause Peyton and Jake "The Snake" Plummer are comparable

Plummer is not worthy of "The Snake", darn it. You can't rip off a ripped off nickname. It's unprofessional.

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by jrkarger

Steelers get hot and go into Mile high and beat Peyton in the playoffs. Shades of '05.



You heard it here first.

LOL as if the Steelers are even making the playoffs ending with a winning record.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea cause Peyton and Jake "The Snake" Plummer are comparable

The Snake p much cursed the Buccaneers when he chose to retire instead of play for them after he was traded there.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

The Snake p much cursed the Buccaneers when he chose to retire instead of play for them after he was traded there.

yea i remember that

good move by Jake though

[jrkarger]

If the Steelers played the Broncos today manning would carve them up like Bill the Butcher. Final score 59-1.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by jrkarger

If the Steelers played the Broncos today manning would carve them up like Bill the Butcher. Final score 59-1.

that might be the score against the Colts too...

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by jrkarger

If the Steelers played the Broncos today manning would carve them up like Bill the Butcher. Final score 59-1.

59 is generous of you.
Peyton would score every possession so at least 75-80 would be the scoring floor.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

59 is generous of you.
Peyton would score every possession so at least 75-80 would be the scoring floor.

no way peyton plays a full 60:00 against the steelers

it would probably be over in the 2nd qtr

[jrkarger]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

that might be the score against the Colts too...

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

59 is generous of you.
Peyton would score every possession so at least 75-80 would be the scoring floor.

Both are distinct possibilities.

[jackisback24]

and how do you score 1 point?

[jrkarger]

Obviously you're not a golfer.

[kittensXLI]

Christ jackisback.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Just so awesome to be able to watch someone like Manning do what he does week in and week out, even at his age.

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

Just so awesome to be able to watch someone like Manning do what he does week in and week out, even at his age.

We truly are so blessed.

[bartender_man]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

Just so awesome to be able to watch someone like Manning do what he does week in and week out, even at his age.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

Just so awesome to be able to watch someone like Manning do what he does week in and week out (from September to December), even at his age.

Fixed it for you

[crashintonickdm]

Peyton is incredible there's no question but I just can't put h in front Of tom Brady. Brady just seems more clutch with somuch less

[bartender_man]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

Peyton is incredible there's no question but I just can't put h in front Of tom Brady. Brady just seems more clutch with somuch less

Peyton has been better in the regular season but Brady has been better in the postseason

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by bartender_man

Peyton has been better in the regular season but Brady has been better in the postseason

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

Peyton is incredible there's no question but I just can't put h in front Of tom Brady. Brady just seems more clutch with somuch less

Brady started out 9-0 but has gone 7-7 since. While 16-7 is much better than Peyton's 11-12 record it reflects the team's they're on.

Brady was a key but not THE key to the first Super Bowl. Would he be any less of a QB if a kicker misses those kicks in any 3, and the other team got the ball back and scored?

When Brady improved as a QB his playoff success has decreased. In 2006 I remmeber the Pats blowing a big halftime lead against the Colts and Brady not leading a game winning drive with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line. Also had a shot in his best season for perfection and they lost to the Giants. He didn't lead a miracle drive at the end of the game despite being at his peak.

I'm not excusing all of Peyton's post-season struggles but if Peyton was the Pats QB this entire time I believe they have more rings.

[bartender_man]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

Why so funny Kittens?

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by bartender_man

Peyton has been better in the regular season but Brady has been better in the postseason

Actually, Peyton is statistically better than Brady in the postseason, behind only Montana, Brees, and Warner in postseason DYAR/g. Here are the top 30, Brady is at 10th:

Joe Montana 155.3
Drew Brees 129.1
Kurt Warner 126.0
Peyton Manning 114.8
Jeff Hostetler 113.2
Aaron Rodgers 109.3
Jeff George 103.3
Troy Aikman 94.1
Russell Wilson 90.2
Vinny Testaverde 85.6
Warren Moon 84.5
Colin Kaepernick 84.5
Tom Brady 82.6
Philip Rivers 76.0
Steve Young 73.8
John Elway 73.8
Matt Hasselbeck 69.4
Mark Sanchez 67.3
Eli Manning 65.3
Mark Rypien 65.1
Brett Favre 62.4
Jim Kelly 59.4
Randall Cunningham 55.4
Joe Flacco 55.2
Dan Marino 47.9
Steve McNair 46.3
Kerry Collins 46.3
Ben Roethlisberger 41.6
Donovan McNabb 36.3
Rich Gannon 35.1


Active QBs in bold

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...-dvoa-and-dyar