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Old 11-06-2011, 09:15 AM   #91
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You report this to the police, not your AD. Total speculation, but the GA benefited from this, or he would have gone to the police too.

If you saw some guy nailing a kid, you don't tell you're superior, who is a friend of the creep and clearly harbored him despite what they knew.
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    At least PSU can claim they still have no major NCAA violations.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:16 AM   #93
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    Oh a real zinger. Do you just turn the facts to make your own story or do you have some special technique to make up bullshit aside from what is written about this whole thing?
    would you like me to change your name to joepsuWECOVERUPCHILDRAPISTS for you I can. I don't change user names for people often, but in this case I'll make an exception.
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    You report this to the police, not your AD. Total speculation, but the GA benefited from this, or he would have gone to the police too.
    You need to decide who you are putting fault on...the GA or Joe.

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    Harbored him? I think thats taking it a little too far.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:20 AM   #95
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    I blame both. They both had knowledge.

    The first allegations happened before the GA told JoePA, and they still let him there. IMO, they harbored him.
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    and for the record, I'm giving Joe Pa a semi-pass (for those not keeping up with both threads on this) because he did not actually witness anything. He should have advised the GA to go to the police, and that was bad by him. But really, this whole situation is a passing the buck, and it should have never happened.
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    and for the record, I'm giving Joe Pa a semi-pass (for those not keeping up with both threads on this) because he did not actually witness anything. He should have advised the GA to go to the police, and that was bad by him. But really, this whole situation is a passing the buck, and it should have never happened.
    Agreed. That's why I blame everyone who knew. The GA passed it to JoePa, JoePa passed it to the AD, the AD passed it to the PSU Administrator, and nothing happened. They are all guilty.

    Just saw that PSU is barring Sandusky from campus. Better late than never.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:27 AM   #98
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    Agreed. That's why I blame everyone who knew. The GA passed it to JoePa, JoePa passed it to the AD, the AD passed it to the PSU Administrator, and nothing happened. They are all guilty.

    Just saw that PSU is barring Sandusky from campus. Better late than never.
    That's tossing the baby out with the bath water.
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    Those attacking Joe-Pa are off base. He went up the chain of command with the information from the GA. The DA basically conducted a false investigation of the incident. Is it a black eye for the university? Absolutely. But Paterno took the information to his hire-ups, and they are the ones who didnt take the investigation seriously.
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    That's tossing the baby out with the bath water.
    I've never understood that -ism.
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    I still want to know how Joe Pa isn't being charged with failing to alert police.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:31 AM   #102
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    Those attacking Joe-Pa are off base. He went up the chain of command with the information from the GA. The DA basically conducted a false investigation of the incident. Is it a black eye for the university? Absolutely. But Paterno took the information to his hire-ups, and they are the ones who didnt take the investigation seriously.
    I'm just playing devil's advocate, but how does that exonerate anyone? All of them who passed the buck had an obligation to make sure that it was taken to the proper authorities.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:31 AM   #103
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    I still want to know how Joe Pa isn't being charged with failing to alert police.
    He's bigger than God there.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:32 AM   #104
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    Those attacking Joe-Pa are off base. He went up the chain of command with the information from the GA. The DA basically conducted a false investigation of the incident. Is it a black eye for the university? Absolutely. But Paterno took the information to his hire-ups, and they are the ones who didnt take the investigation seriously.
    you go up the chain of command when a player comes to you and says, "hey coach, I got drunk last night, and I kinda signed with an agent. I didn't mean to."


    you don't go up the chain of command when a GA comes to you and says, "hey coach, remember the old Defensive Coordinator? I just saw him balls deep in a 10 year old boy."



    again, I get why Joe Pa did it, it's because he's stupid (no offense) and that's the stupid system that all admins do, but he should've said "go to the police".
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    He's bigger than God there.
    I mean there has to be some sort of legal reasoning there, right? I just don't see it.


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    you go up the chain of command when a player comes to you and says, "hey coach, I got drunk last night, and I kinda signed with an agent. I didn't mean to."


    you don't go up the chain of command when a GA comes to you and says, "hey coach, remember the old Defensive Coordinator? I just saw him balls deep in a 10 year old boy."



    again, I get why Joe Pa did it, it's because he's stupid (no offense) and that's the stupid system that all admins do, but he should've said "go to the police".
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    I mean there has to be some sort of legal reasoning there, right? I just don't see it.


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    I'd guess technically he didn't have any first hand knowledge, but he could murder the volleyball team and still not have to make the perp walk.
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    powerful ppl get away w/ bad things, news at 11


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    I'd guess technically he didn't have any first hand knowledge, but he could murder the volleyball team and still not have to make the perp walk.
    p much yeah
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    I'd guess technically he didn't have any first hand knowledge, but he could murder the volleyball team and still not have to make the perp walk.
    But the AD didn't have any first hand knowledge and hes being charged.
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    But the AD didn't have any first hand knowledge and hes being charged.
    This is what I don't get. JoePa knew the exact same knowledge and sooner than the others, but isn't getting charged. It's like the prosecutors are treating this as a crime by the University and not by the individuals involved, hence only the highest up officials are charged.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:40 AM   #111
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    But the AD didn't have any first hand knowledge and hes being charged.
    True. It might have to do with the fact that Joe wasn't really involved, allegedly, in the 1998 incident. The fact that he's bigger than God is definitely a reason though.
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    I mean there has to be some sort of legal reasoning there, right? I just don't see it.


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    Obviously, since a Grand Jury decided it.

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    But the AD didn't have any first hand knowledge and hes being charged.

    hes at the top of the chain....hes the boss..he knew of a few instances (other than the one joe was told about), and he didnt do a thing about any of them.
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    Obviously, since a Grandy Jury decided it.
    Well right. My question is why. From everything I've read, it sounds simply like favoritism.
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    hes at the top of the chain....hes the boss..he knew of a few instances (other than the one joe was told about), and he didnt do a thing about any of them.
    Ohhhh. See I didn't know he knew of multiple instances. I thought he just knew of the one.
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    Well right. My question is why. From everything I've read, it sounds simply like favoritism.
    What law would he be breaking?

    The original instance that led to all of this was a complain of a boy that was abused at Sanduskys home

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    What law would he be breaking?
    Failure to alert police. He had knowledge of a felony and didn't report it.
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    I really don't even care about if Joe is charged, because he's not going to be sent to the can and putting an old man in jail isn't going to make up for what Sandusky did. I just want him fired.
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    I really don't even care about if Joe is charged, because he's not going to be sent to the can and putting an old man in jail isn't going to make up for what Sandusky did. I just want him fired.
    I'm just confused as to why he wasn't. I'm not rooting for him to be charged. Not going to change what happened to the boys. Just curious as to why not.
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    Old 11-06-2011, 09:50 AM   #120
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    From the AG

    http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press.aspx?id=6270
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