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Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin
It starts with their front office. You could make a quote book out of the shit Reinsdorf, Williams, and Ozzie say about the Cubs. When do Hendry and the Cubs managers talk smack about the White Sox? It's a culture thing.
Don't get me wrong, there's probaby a portion of the Cubs fans who would LOVE to hear Hendry shit talk the White Sox. Then those Cubs fans and Sox fans get together in the winter and yell about Bears weather and things of that nature.
I just think if you saw the White Sox run like a normal orginization, you'd see less of those "YOU KNOW WHAT'S A GOOD DAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE!" crap. I like Kenny as a GM though. Reinsdorf is a horrible owner though who treats the White Sox like a small market team in a big city. Ozzie is an idiot, and would have been fired by any other team at this point.
I do have a question for White Sox fans though. Is the 3 year rule on pitchers contracts from Kenny or Reinsdorf? In case others don't know what I'm talking about. The White Sox refuse to give a pitcher a contract longer then 3 years. This mainly comes from something that happened in 1997 when a 4 year deal went bad with Navarro. They kind of bent the rule a bit for Buehrle though and gave him a 4th year.
That was crazy because he was literally so close to being traded, but they had a change of heart last second. But basically these guys could of had Sabathia last season, and would have let him walk over years.
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What exactly have they said that you could make a book out of it? I've heard condescending quotes from them towards the Cubs, but I don't think it's anywhere near the level that you seem to think. Also remember, the Chicago Tribune owned the Cubs for over 20 years. There has been and still is a difference in reporting the Cubs and Sox in the media. The first example I can think of is when the Tribune ran an article in the sports section on day 1 of the 05 World Series about someone being caught smoking pot outside of US Cellular. And that was page 1 of the sports page. What the hell did that have to do with the White Sox or the World Series??? Yet someone gets murdered a year later outside Wrigley Field, during baseball season, and that's not mentioned.
I don't know where the 3 year rule comes from, probably from Reinsdorf, but I do know it's an organizational philosophy. And in all honesty, I agree with it. With the money starting pitchers make these days it is very risky to give a pitcher a 5 year deal worth let's say 75 million. That's 15 mil a season. Pitchers have shown that they start to deteriorate as time goes on, so the last 1 or 2 years of a 5 year deal that pitcher may not be worth that 15 mil a year they are making. This then causes problems for the team in terms of payroll and also causes a problem when trying to trade a pitcher. Do you Cubs fans think Z is going to be worth 18.3 million a year 3 years from now? It's a huge gamble, and it's one the Sox aren't willing to take, and I can't blame them for that.
And not all Sox fans care more about the Cubs than the Sox. The idiots do, the meatheads do, but I know plenty of Cubs fans who say they don't care about the Sox yet always rip on the Sox whenever I see them. It goes both ways. And posting in this thread to say that Sox fans care more about the Cubs than the Sox proves my point.
And no pitcher should ever get a 7 year deal. See Barry Zito. That Sabathia deal will bite the Yankees in the ass.