Who is the historically better QB: Manning vs Brady

[watchtower86]

Originally Posted by MonkeyTime

Works better with less...

If you put Peyton Manning on the 2006 New England Patriots and his WR1 is Reche Caldwell, I find it hard to believe Manning would have done as well as Brady. Obviously, this is only my opinion because there's nothing to back it up since it didn't happen...So, yeah lol.

Brady is a better leader than Manning, and there's honestly no debate against that. Their arm strengths are quite similar. I would actually argue that Brady's accuracy is better. I'm not talking completely a pass accuracy. I mean putting the ball where only the WR can get it and leading him for a run after the catch. Not many do that better than Brady, if anyone in the league right now even.

And you keep dismissing the clutch factor? Why? Because it goes against your opinion? Being clutch and being able to lead your team to a win is actually quite important for a QB when discussing QB talent and intangibles. If Manning was the better at being clutch, I feel like you would be adding it to your list of why Manning is better....

And you keep asking for things Brady does better. I'll ask you...What does Peyton do that Brady doesn't when given the same weapons?

Manning gets sacked less than almost anyone due to his quick release, not elusiveness. The fact that he's not mobile and doesn't get sacked is pretty crazy. Just throwing that one out there.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

So you're saying because Brady throws more (the most) touchdowns in a season, he's the best touchdown thrower ever? So Brett is clearly the best QB because he's the most at the most things.

Yes he is we will disregard the fact that he has played 10 more years than Brady at this point. You need to think things out before you post them.

[pathetic]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

So you're saying because Brady throws more (the most) touchdowns in a season, he's the best touchdown thrower ever? So Brett is clearly the best QB because he's the most at the most things.

Tell me a TALENT Brady has or does better than Manning, besides being crazy-more clutch. You've avoided it this entire time. It's because there is nothing. TALENT.

the term is quarterback. and yes

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by MonkeyTime

Yeah. I find sports debating fun and interesting. Which side are you on here? Brady or Manning?

Manning, but not by much.

[MonkeyTime]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

So you're saying because Brady throws more (the most) touchdowns in a season, he's the best touchdown thrower ever? So Brett is clearly the best QB because he's the most at the most things.

Tell me a TALENT Brady has or does better than Manning, besides being crazy-more clutch. You've avoided it this entire time. It's because there is nothing. TALENT.

I didn't realize the question was who had the most raw talent? If so, shouldn't Michael Vick be in the discussion?

Come on, man. I respect anyone else's opinion, but you're making it hard to do so here.

There is more to being a QB than being able to throw the ball hard. Jay Cutler can attest to that.

[rickyh24]

Clutchness has nothing to do with Talent!!11!!!

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Yes he is we will disregard the fact that he has played 10 more years than Brady at this point. You need to think things out before you post them.

lol wut?

You really think Brett is the best? I thought you didn't even have him in the top 5. Based on your stance for Brady over Manning, factoring Favre by the same guidelines would make Favre > Brady, which I not only disagree with, but know you do too.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

lol wut?

You really think Brett is the best? I thought you didn't even have him in the top 5. Based on your stance for Brady over Manning, factoring Favre by the same guidelines would make Favre > Brady, which I not only disagree with, but know you do too.

Good lord you really are dumb.

[ShotgunDMB]

TALENT!!~~%&^&&

Kittens is about stupid.

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by pathetic

so the big boss is peyton manning? someone with less playoff/superbowl victories than brady? what kind of game is this? twilight zone?

brady is better

You're biased.

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by pathetic

the term is quarterback. and yes

Actually, if you read my post and comprehended what was being said, touchdown thrower is correct. Quarterback encompasses a lot of things and is too broad when talking about the subject of throwing a pass. And no.

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Clutchness has nothing to do with Talent!!11!!!

Not what I said, but grasp at straws as usual. Nothing new from you.

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Brad historically has 3 super bowl rings.

Isn't it a team sport?

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Good lord you really are dumb.

Post something that's comprehensible first. Like this winner :

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

TALENT!!~~%&^&&

Kittens is about stupid.

[MonkeyTime]

Originally Posted by watchtower86

Manning gets sacked less than almost anyone due to his quick release, not elusiveness. The fact that he's not mobile and doesn't get sacked is pretty crazy. Just throwing that one out there.

Can't tell if you were implying it or not, but I never said he was elusive...

And measuring a QB by stats taken is a mistake IMO...Considering opponents faced, strength of OLine, etc.

I find Brady to be a bit more of a soldier. One who will take a hit and get right back up. Manning is more of a complainer and will deflect blame when he gets the chance to.

[Beebz]

I dont think there is a definitive answer here, although if I'm on a debate team and I win the coin toss to decide which side of the issue I want to argue, I'm taking "Brady is better" every single time. Both have plenty of highs, but Manning has more black marks on his resume than Brady, and that's the difference to me.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

Actually, if you read my post and comprehended what was being said, touchdown thrower is correct. Quarterback encompasses a lot of things and is too broad when talking about the subject or throwing a pass. And no.

You're seriously dumb for sitting here and trying to say all Brady can do it be clutch. You have to realize that right?? It's a joke right???

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by scrock25

Isn't it a team sport?

No it's not. This is football we're talking about, not golf.

[MonkeyTime]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

Post something that's comprehensible

You first...just once.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

Post something that's comprehensible first. Like this winner :

Have you ever actually watched Brady run an offense?? Do you own a television?? I really shouldn't have to post facts. Its right in front of your face.

[lockman21]

SHIT IS GETTING INTENSE IN HERE!

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by MonkeyTime

I find Brady to be a bit more of a soldier. One who will take a hit and get right back up. Manning is more of a complainer and will deflect blame when he gets the chance to.

Brady whines like a damn bitch whenever someone even breathes on him. He asks for more flags than the fucking interior decorator at the UN.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by scrock25

Isn't it a team sport?

That post was pretty much a joke. Never the less it is a fact.

[dmbmuskie]

Jimi!

Merry Christmas Bro.

Are you amped for the Winter Classic and the BCSCG?

[javierm27]

Originally Posted by lockman21

SHIT IS GETTING INTENSE IN HERE!

This is serious business.

[dmbgodagirl41]

When a QB can effectively rely on defensive guys and they score TDs....yeah.
I don't recall Manning throwing any TDs to outside linebackers....on his own team.

[kittensXLI]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

You're seriously dumb for sitting here and trying to say all Brady can do it be clutch. You have to realize that right?? It's a joke right???

Wrong. As usual. I never said "Tom Brady is actually terrible and can't do anything besides breathe and be clutch." I said, "Show me a talent Tom Brady does better than Peyton Manning, besides be infinitely more clutch."

omg did he say somethin negative about my qb?!?! im goin to jump in and only hear what i want and back my qb!!!

[watchtower86]

Originally Posted by MonkeyTime

Can't tell if you were implying it or not, but I never said he was elusive...

And measuring a QB by stats taken is a mistake IMO...Considering opponents faced, strength of OLine, etc.

I find Brady to be a bit more of a soldier. One who will take a hit and get right back up. Manning is more of a complainer and will deflect blame when he gets the chance to.

I'm not imlpying anything. Just putting it out there something at which Manning is incredible. My opinion is that Manning is better, but I can easily see arguments for either.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by bbianca1982

Brady whines like a damn bitch whenever someone even breathes on him. He asks for more flags than the fucking interior decorator at the UN.

Every QB does it.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by kittensXLI

Wrong. As usual. I never said "Tom Brady is actually terrible and can't do anything besides breathe and be clutch." I said, "Show me a talent Tom Brady does better than Peyton Manning, besides be infinitely more clutch."

omg did he say somethin negative about my qb?!?! im goin to jump in and only hear what i want and back my qb!!!

omg talent!!!


is that better?

[dmbgodagirl41]

Originally Posted by bbianca1982

Brady whines like a damn bitch whenever someone even breathes on him. He asks for more flags than the fucking interior decorator at the UN.

He was injured by one of the dirtiest players in the NFL, causing him to be out all season. I'd be looking for flags, too, if I was him.

and manning whines less about that because if he gets breathed on, he automatically gets flags....he doesn't even have to ask.