Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by Beebz

You guys are pathetic. Yes, its paternos fault that Sandusky raped children. The end.

No but he sure as hell could have prevented some of the later rapes. You are pathetic for saying that Sandusky deserved a quiet resignation.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Beebz

You guys are pathetic. Yes, its paternos fault that Sandusky raped children. The end.

Surely you agree there are different degrees of blame to go around here.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Paterno knew that Sandusky raped a child in his football house. Paterno continued to let Sandusky, for years, come into his football house, with young boys in tow. Paterno deserves every bit of negative attention that comes his way.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

I know that Paterno is old and possibly senile, but I have to give his intelligence a little more credit than to believe his line of thinking was "wow, that Sandusky sure is a pervert. Better tell Curley. ...(a few years pass) ... Sandusky still comes around here with all those little boys? Well, I'm sure that whatever Curley told him cured that perversion. He's in a great position now to help young boys while using my football facilities to do it."

I am not saying JoePa was told that Curley cured Sandusky that his problems were fixed, but more along the lines that there was no truth in the original allegation. It is plain to see there are so many variables here before we can fully pass on all the blame appropriately, but for now I am going to defend Paterno until I have clear evidence that he knew for fact of how fucked up Sandusky allegedly is.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Beebz

You guys are pathetic. Yes, its paternos fault that Sandusky raped children. The end.

If he merely told the admin, then every kid raped after is.

Joe Pa should be fired

[YouNeverKnow25]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

I am not saying JoePa was told that Curley cured Sandusky that his problems were fixed, but more along the lines that there was no truth in the original allegation. It is plain to see there are so many variables here before we can fully pass on all the blame appropriately, but for now I am going to defend Paterno until I have clear evidence that he knew for fact of how fucked up Sandusky allegedly is.

So now the allegation was credible enough for Paterno to report it to superiors, but not credible enough for him to keep Sandusky from bring his rape victims into the football facilities?

[Beebz]

[QUOTE=vaxarado;13079911]No but he sure as hell could have prevented some of the later rapes. You are pathetic for saying that Sandusky deserved a quiet resignation.[/

QUOTE]

That's not at all what I said. Read again.

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Paterno knew that Sandusky raped a child in his football house. Paterno continued to let Sandusky, for years, come into his football house, with young boys in tow. Paterno deserves every bit of negative attention that comes his way.

You have facts to this effect?

Joe Paterno is not just one of the most honorable men in college football, but one of the more upright people alive. To think that he willingly let an assistant rape boys in the locker room is one of the dumbest things ever put forward on this site. And that's saying something.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

So now the allegation was credible enough for Paterno to report it to superiors, but not credible enough for him to keep Sandusky from bring his rape victims into the football facilities?

Any allegation of this nature should be reported to his superiors and rightfully were, it was the AD that did nothing further with the information. How can this not be grasped?

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Any allegation of this nature should be reported to his superiors and rightfully were, it was the AD that did nothing further with the information. How can this not be grasped?

This. Its just stupid.

[Jake]

Bobby Bowden has the most career D 1 wins by a coach that didn't brush aside a child rape aligation

[YouNeverKnow25]

How can you not grasp that Sandusky continued to bring children to the football facilities AFTER Paterno reported this to the superiors? PSU barred Sandusky from the football facilities only YESTERDAY. A GA at the school walked in on him fucking a child in 2002. He continued to have access to PSU's facilities for NINE YEARS after being caught in the act of raping a child.

[JRS1386]

It seems we have both made up our minds on this. You, without all the facts, placing clear blame on Paterno and everyone at PSU. I will have no problem admitting I am wrong if evidence comes out to prove so. I think this man is a despicable excuse for a human being and will get what he deserves in prison and I think Curley should get the book thrown at him for not doing anything with the information JoePa gave him. However, I am not going to blame Paterno until I know he was giving more information on Sandusky and didn't act on it. For all we know Curley told JoePa that there was an investigation and nothing came of it.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Joe Paterno > PSU Athletic Department

Hell.. he might be bigger than the school. He should've pressed the issue after the AD didn't do shit about it.

[YouNeverKnow25]

The moral gymnastics people are torturing themselves into in this thread must be really taxing.

[Beebz]

Longtime head coach Joe Paterno,who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing. It said that when Paterno first learned of one report of abuse, he immediately reported it to Curley, but Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley.

We done here?

[JRS1386]

Once again, we do not know what Paterno was told from the AD after reporting. This is one time where everyone should just chill out and wait for all the evidence to come to light. It is not like we are talking about some shady coach. This is Joe Paterno, a man who is noted as being on the most outstanding coaches and people ever involved in sports.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

The moral gymnastics people are torturing themselves into in this thread must be really taxing.

I am not doing any gymnastics. I will have no problem being pissed at Joepa if more comes up, but with what we know now I have little to be upset about involving Paterno. Curley and Sandusky on the other hand I am both disgusted and ashamed that they are related to PSU at all

[YouNeverKnow25]

Decidedly not. Paterno knew his old buddy was dipping into the hearts and asses of the children he set up a charity to get access to, that the old buddy was using PSU facilities and benefits to pay for the children's silence and complicity, and continued to allow the old buddy access to said facilities and benefits.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Longtime head coach Joe Paterno,who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing. It said that when Paterno first learned of one report of abuse, he immediately reported it to Curley, but Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley.

We done here?

Big difference between legal wrongdoing and moral.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by vaxarado

So you have the campus police investigate it quietly. You don't think Paterno has enough sway at the university to make that happen? Please.

So hes at fault for not thinking that the higher authorities would go that route?

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Jake

Bobby Bowden has the most career D 1 wins by a coach that didn't brush aside a child rape aligation

All of your joke references have failed today.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Decidedly not. Paterno knew his old buddy was dipping into the hearts and asses of the children he set up a charity to get access to, that the old buddy was using PSU facilities and benefits to pay for the children's silence and complicity, and continued to allow the old buddy access to said facilities and benefits.

Show me the evidence where Paterno actually knew. He was told of an allegation made against Sandunsky and reported it. Nothing came of this initial allegation so either Paterno was told that Sandusky was innocent or he made the assumption after nothing happened after he reported the allegation.

[dre2142]

Paterno knew of ONE allegation at the time....ONE. Allegation....thats the key word.

[YouNeverKnow25]

He probably knew about the shower Sandusky took with a kid in 1998, right? I mean, the University Police investigated that one.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by dre2142

All of your joke references have failed today.

I don't know, that Penn St's biggest rival being Michael Jackson is fucking gold.

[joepsu0985]

People love to hate Penn State and Joe Paterno. Some GA told Paterno what he saw. Why didn't the GA just call the police? I mean honestly, if you are in Paterno's position and a GA comes to you and tells you this, would you believe that an assistant coach would do this in your locker room? He told the AD what the GA told him.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by K3nTaKa0s

Joe Paterno > PSU Athletic Department

Hell.. he might be bigger than the school. He should've pressed the issue after the AD didn't do shit about it.

how would he know the AD didnt do shit about it?

[joepsu0985]

Originally Posted by Jake

Bobby Bowden has the most career D 1 wins by a coach that didn't brush aside a child rape aligation

Oh a real zinger. Do you just turn the facts to make your own story or do you have some special technique to make up bullshit aside from what is written about this whole thing?

[42graystreet]

Originally Posted by dre2142

how would he know the AD didnt do shit about it?

Because he didn't read in the paper about how his former defensive coach was jailed for raping a child.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by 42graystreet

Because he didn't read in the paper about how his former defensive coach was jailed for raping a child.

You dont seem to really understand how the justice system works, huh?

Youre making a lot of assumptions to jump to the above opinion that it would happen just like that.